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| pitti | Good morning | 07:16 |
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| darkxst | hey pitti | 07:16 |
| pitti | hey darkxst | 07:21 |
| ochosi | tedg: hi there! quickly wanted to ask what the rationale was behind dropping sync notification on scroll in indicator-sound. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-sound/trunk.15.04/revision/462.4.2 | 07:38 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:58 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 07:58 |
| willcooke | morning | 08:55 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:56 |
| happyaron | morning willcooke | 08:57 |
| Laney | hey hey | 09:03 |
| willcooke | Got snow Laney ? | 09:05 |
| Laney | little dusting, therefore the world's probably ended | 09:05 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:06 |
| darkxst | Laney, my world starts when it snows ;) been cooler this week but summer here is pretty brutal ;( | 09:09 |
| Laney | darkxst: come up to northern europe, it's the place for you | 09:10 |
| darkxst | Laney, I plan to eventually! | 09:10 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, Does melbourne get any snow? | 09:16 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, no, I have to drive 4-5 hours to get to the mountains where the snow is! | 09:21 |
| darkxst | (Mt Hotham) | 09:21 |
| Noskcaj | way closer than me | 09:23 |
| darkxst | seb128, hey did you get to look at my gnome-session wayland split? | 11:15 |
| Laney | 4G \m/ | 11:37 |
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| seb128 | darkxst, hey, not yet no, is that blocking things? | 12:49 |
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| qengho | willcooke: Your Twitter name is good. | 13:48 |
| willcooke | qengho, hehe! Thanks | 13:51 |
| larsu | is it willcooke? | 13:51 |
| willcooke | lol | 13:52 |
| willcooke | for once, it is not | 13:52 |
| tedg | ochosi, The biggest reason was that we couldn't find any use-case for it. Do you have one? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | tedg, hey | 14:03 |
| tedg | Good morning seb128 | 14:03 |
| seb128 | tedg, does it mean that mousewheel scrolling over the indicator doesn't displays bubbles anymore? | 14:03 |
| tedg | seb128, No, it should mean that it always does. There was an option to disable. | 14:03 |
| tedg | seb128, But no UI for it and set to show by default. | 14:03 |
| seb128 | oh, ok | 14:03 |
| seb128 | k, wfm then | 14:04 |
| seb128 | tedg, btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1416233 might be a regression from your recent changes | 14:06 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1416233 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Sound indicator notification shows each time the a sound starts or stops" [Undecided,New] | 14:06 |
| tedg | Yeah, I agree, it's kinda the design though. | 14:08 |
| seb128 | tedg, can you comment saying that? | 14:08 |
| tedg | Yup | 14:08 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:08 |
| tedg | Looking up the design :-) | 14:08 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:08 |
| tedg | seb128, Actually seems I was wrong, there's a little sentence at the end I missed covering this :-/ | 14:12 |
| seb128 | tedg, k, please fix it then :-) | 14:16 |
| tedg | Heh, yeah. | 14:16 |
| rsalveti | tedg: I can't control music playback anymore from the indicator-sound (play/pause/back/forward) on vivid | 14:43 |
| rsalveti | is that expected? | 14:43 |
| rsalveti | on desktop | 14:44 |
| tedg | rsalveti, Could you before? | 14:44 |
| tedg | Oh, on desktop. | 14:44 |
| rsalveti | tedg: yup | 14:44 |
| tedg | rsalveti, Definitely not expected, let me try. | 14:44 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, you mean that the controls are missing in the menu? | 14:45 |
| rsalveti | seb128: yup | 14:45 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, want to try the deb from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-006 and confirm if it fixes it for you? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | tedg, ^ | 14:46 |
| rsalveti | sure | 14:46 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:46 |
| tedg | Oh, okay. WFM with Rhythmbox. | 14:46 |
| tedg | Well, I've got Utopic base but the indicator-sound trunk. | 14:47 |
| seb128 | tedg, yeah, the issue is due to the new gtk/theming | 14:47 |
| tedg | Ah, I see. | 14:47 |
| seb128 | so you wouldn't get it on utopic | 14:47 |
| tedg | Need to upgrade to Vivid. Used to always upgrade the week before UDS. Still haven't got a new routine. | 14:48 |
| rsalveti | seb128: nops | 14:48 |
| rsalveti | still broken | 14:48 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, what did you restart? | 14:49 |
| rsalveti | seb128: just indicator-sound, do I need to restart the entire unity? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, unity-panel-service | 14:49 |
| seb128 | that's the frontend side | 14:49 |
| seb128 | the indicator is just backend | 14:49 |
| rsalveti | seb128: got it | 14:50 |
| rsalveti | seb128: awesome, can see them again :-) | 14:50 |
| rsalveti | and seems to be working fine as well | 14:50 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, great, thanks for confirming ;-) | 14:50 |
| ochosi | tedg: dunno, we used that setting in xubuntu and it seemed to provide better visual feedback of the scroll-event than just the small icon in the panel changing | 14:53 |
| tedg | ochosi, I think that the default is to provide the notification, so I think you guys were just setting it again. | 14:54 |
| ochosi | a-ha | 14:55 |
| tedg | ochosi, It was only used to disable the notification. (non-default) | 14:55 |
| ochosi | so wait, that commit is not dropping the notification then? | 14:55 |
| tedg | ochosi, No, it is not. In fact I was too aggressive with the notification, got to scale it back a little this morning :-) | 14:55 |
| ochosi | oh ok then :) | 14:55 |
| ochosi | if the notification sticks around, there's nothing to worry about then | 14:56 |
| ochosi | thanks for the heads up! | 14:56 |
| mitya57 | Laney: notify-osd itself installs some icons into /usr/share/notify-osd/icons/hicolor/, why not use the same path? | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | That will also work for users whose icon theme does not inherit from Humanity | 15:14 |
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| larsu | mitya57: the same path as whaT? | 15:24 |
| Laney | mitya57: tedious file conflicts if you do that | 15:25 |
| Laney | can't quite be bothered to sort it out | 15:25 |
| larsu | why don't we just add the icons to hicolor? | 15:25 |
| larsu | or are they very notify-osd specific? | 15:25 |
| larsu | bah, s/hicolor/Humanity | 15:26 |
| Laney | /usr/share/notify-osd/icons/* | 15:26 |
| Laney | they probably only look good in notify-osd | 15:27 |
| larsu | okay, makes sense then | 15:28 |
| ochosi | hey larsu | 15:28 |
| larsu | hi | 15:28 |
| ochosi | i recently noticed an oddity/bug in gtk3.14, so i thought i'd quickly ask you whether it was possible that it's a problem in ubuntu only before putting a bugreport upstream... | 15:29 |
| ochosi | the gtkfontchooser's preview-text is generally an empty string by default, as opposed to what it should be: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkFontChooser.html#GtkFontChooser--preview-text | 15:30 |
| ochosi | you can see that e.g. in gedit | 15:30 |
| ochosi | i noticed it with a different app i'm maintaining | 15:30 |
| ochosi | explicitely setting some preview-text in the code works though | 15:31 |
| Laney | ochosi: what does python -c 'from gi.repository import Gtk; print Gtk.FontChooserDialog().get_property("preview-text")' give you? | 15:34 |
| Laney | seems right here | 15:34 |
| larsu | ochosi: I see "The quick brown fox..." as preview text in gedit | 15:34 |
| ochosi | weird | 15:34 |
| ochosi | could this be a xubuntu-only issue then? | 15:34 |
| ochosi | Laney: that outputs the expected pangram | 15:34 |
| larsu | seems correct, then | 15:35 |
| ochosi | not that this is spectacular or anything, but just so you know i'm not messing with you, this is how it looks in xubuntu: http://i.imgur.com/W5U1mDP.png | 15:35 |
| ochosi | and i see the same behavior with different gtk3 apps | 15:35 |
| ochosi | (gedit, parole) | 15:35 |
| larsu | ochosi: maybe a theme issue? Is the text set on the property? | 15:36 |
| larsu | ochosi: (check with inspector) | 15:36 |
| ochosi | the text isn't set | 15:36 |
| ochosi | wait, the theme can modify that property? | 15:36 |
| ochosi | lemme check with ambiance then... | 15:37 |
| larsu | ochosi: no, but the theme can make the text invisible | 15:37 |
| larsu | just and idea... | 15:37 |
| ochosi | ah sure | 15:37 |
| ochosi | yeah, no, that's not it | 15:37 |
| ochosi | it really is set to "" | 15:37 |
| seb128 | gedit looks like your screenshot for me on unity | 15:38 |
| larsu | can you debug gedit with a breakpoint on gtk_font_chooser_set_preview_text? | 15:38 |
| seb128 | is it supposed to contain text? | 15:38 |
| larsu | seb128: yes | 15:38 |
| larsu | ochosi: hm, gtkfontchooser uses pango_language_get_sample_string() | 15:38 |
| larsu | maybe that only works in some languages? | 15:39 |
| ochosi | i'm using the default en_US locale | 15:39 |
| ochosi | larsu: what/how exactly should i debug? | 15:43 |
| ochosi | i mean i have parole's code here and i've inspected it quite a bit, it just adds a gtkfontbutton so everything is handled by gtk itself | 15:43 |
| larsu | ochosi: is gtk_font_chooser_set_preview_text() called? | 16:01 |
| larsu | and if so, with which string? | 16:01 |
| ochosi | in parole you mean? | 16:01 |
| ochosi | aha | 16:02 |
| larsu | or gedit | 16:02 |
| ochosi | well in parole it isn't explicitely called, that i know for sure | 16:02 |
| larsu | doesn't matter if if happens in both apps | 16:02 |
| ochosi | but i presume by debug you meant checking whether it happens implicitely? | 16:02 |
| larsu | yes | 16:04 |
| ochosi | tbh i've never done that :] | 16:04 |
| seb128 | is gedit supposed to set a preview text? | 16:05 |
| larsu | ah don't worry about that then | 16:05 |
| larsu | seb128: gtk sets a default if gedit doesn't override it | 16:06 |
| larsu | seb128: and it doesn't seem to, because I see it | 16:06 |
| ochosi | larsu: what's your locale btw? | 16:06 |
| larsu | ochosi: en_US | 16:06 |
| seb128 | ochosi, larsu, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/commit/?id=af6d3204ec4a71efff8521f2df7ffb69960279f4 | 16:06 |
| seb128 | larsu, running your new gtk by chance? | 16:07 |
| ochosi | a-ha | 16:07 |
| ochosi | that is interesting | 16:07 |
| larsu | seb128: and the new gedit ;) | 16:07 |
| seb128 | larsu, that's what I meant | 16:07 |
| seb128 | new gedit :-) | 16:07 |
| seb128 | sorry | 16:07 |
| ochosi | i'll quickly try that with parole, i presume adding that line gives you the preview text..? | 16:07 |
| larsu | I figured | 16:07 |
| larsu | ochosi: no, it removes it | 16:07 |
| larsu | ochosi: grep for preview.text in your source and ui files | 16:08 |
| ochosi | alright, i'll check whether parole sets that | 16:08 |
| ochosi | darn, there you go... | 16:09 |
| ochosi | i guess that was automatically set by glade-gtk3 or something | 16:09 |
| ochosi | thanks a lot larsu! | 16:09 |
| larsu | ochosi: probably the same that happened for gedit. Thank seb128 -- he found the issue! | 16:10 |
| * larsu hugs seb128 | 16:10 | |
| larsu | too bad you won't nbe here until sunday | 16:10 |
| ochosi | indeed, thanks a bunch seb128! | 16:10 |
| * seb128 hugs larsu back | 16:11 | |
| seb128 | yw! | 16:11 |
| * Laney is continent-side | 16:14 | |
| ari-tczew | larsu: are you going to prepare gedit 3.14 for vivid? | 16:14 |
| Laney | need to make sure to have turned off data roaming when we get into .be | 16:15 |
| qengho | willcooke: about email, that bug report probably won't influence to different conclusion, but you should know of it. | 16:45 |
| * willcooke reads | 16:46 | |
| willcooke | ok, things get a bit baffling towards the end of that report | 16:48 |
| willcooke | qengho, so is that a fix in the works then? | 16:49 |
| qengho | willcooke: not soon. Hard to say, but not this release. | 16:53 |
| willcooke | qengho, oki | 16:53 |
| willcooke | qengho, so options available to us? Disable HiDPI? | 16:54 |
| seb128 | willcooke, are the shifted menu worth that unreadably small ui elements? | 16:55 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah, plus AIUI you cant click on the menu items either | 16:56 |
| willcooke | oh | 16:57 |
| willcooke | sorry misread | 16:57 |
| willcooke | I dont think the menu items are clickable - and if that is the case, then yes - I think it probably is | 16:57 |
| willcooke | what do you reckon? | 16:57 |
| willcooke | Has anyone got a HiDPI screen we can test it on? | 16:58 |
| seb128 | do we have a bug report on launchpad with details? | 16:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke, just run "chromium-browser --force-device-scale-factor=2" to test | 16:59 |
| seb128 | you can use the menus | 17:00 |
| seb128 | at least the top right main one | 17:00 |
| qengho | willcooke: Menu-items are clickable, but hover-to-expand submenus doesn't work very well. Coordiate mis-map on that part. | 17:00 |
| qengho | But in some weird relative way. | 17:00 |
| seb128 | yeah, it's not really usable | 17:01 |
| seb128 | if you try to open a submenu it pops over the main menu and open/close in turns | 17:01 |
| willcooke | heh | 17:01 |
| willcooke | Stephane is looking up the LP bug... | 17:02 |
| seb128 | but yeah, looks like maybe we should disable hidpi until that it resolved | 17:02 |
| willcooke | I find it strange that upstream aren't all over this bug though | 17:02 |
| willcooke | I would have expected the new shiny to get some love :) | 17:02 |
| qengho | willcooke: endless refactoring and breaking all my patches has a higher priority. | 17:05 |
| willcooke | ha! | 17:06 |
| willcooke | oooohh | 17:12 |
| willcooke | who was it that liked steak tartare? | 17:12 |
| seb128 | the frenchs | 17:12 |
| willcooke | hehehe | 17:13 |
| mlankhorst | how do people get from FOSDEM to the hotel? | 17:21 |
| willcooke | looks like quite a long way. taxi it | 17:22 |
| mlankhorst | shrug, I go by car :p | 17:37 |
| mlankhorst | though 5 km is fun to walk too | 17:37 |
| willcooke | On a sunny day I would agree | 17:37 |
| willcooke | < 15 degrees - no way :D | 17:38 |
| mlankhorst | pfft | 17:38 |
| mlankhorst | I cleaned up some horse feces today in the snow, though it was still 5°c or so :p | 17:38 |
| willcooke | The things you guys do for fun.... | 17:44 |
| mlankhorst | oh definitely! | 17:53 |
| mlankhorst | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyvN8eDS3lY | 17:54 |
| willcooke | O_o | 17:55 |
| mlankhorst | sometimes I do normal things too | 17:57 |
| willcooke | haha | 17:57 |
| willcooke | right - EOW | 17:57 |
| willcooke | See you next week | 17:57 |
| willcooke | o/ | 17:57 |
| mlankhorst | bb | 17:58 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, could be useful to bump the indicator-power upstream version, more reliable than depending on a daily snapshot date | 18:55 |
| seb128 | especially if you start backporting to rtm | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | ok | 19:00 |
| kenvandine | charles, ^^ | 19:00 |
| kenvandine | can you bump that in your branches and i'll match it in my branches? | 19:00 |
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