[09:18] <macstar> guys is it normal that when i am using the kubuntu vivid plasma 5.2 live image and try to start the installation that nothing happens?
[09:19] <macstar> oops it has started now never mind 
[09:31] <macstar> but now the installer crashes ... shame
[09:33] <macstar> anyone knows how to fix it?
[09:38] <valorie> hmmm, first time I've heard about the installer crashing
[09:38] <valorie> macstar: did you verify the iso?
[09:39] <valorie> !md5sum
[09:39] <macstar> i thought about this and therefore downloading the iso now again
[09:39] <macstar> still sceptical that this is the problem
[09:39] <macstar> running it in virtualbox btw.
[09:39] <valorie> easier to just follow those links and verify
[09:39] <macstar> 860mb ram, 8gb disk space
[09:39] <valorie> this is why I torrent all the isos - ktorrent verifies them
[09:40] <macstar> i never had a checksum problem with any iso .. never
[09:40] <valorie> I also seed them all 
[09:40] <valorie> I did on 14.10, first time
[09:40] <macstar> hmmm
[09:40] <valorie> downloaded with wget
[09:42] <PaulW2U> macstar: bug #1411801 ?
[09:42] <macstar> checking the md5sum in windows is no option for me btw
[09:42] <macstar> uhhmm
[09:42] <macstar> so it's confirmed?
[09:43] <PaulW2U> depends on what you're seeing...
[09:43] <macstar> i tried to start it via konosle, crashes as well
[09:44] <macstar> well let's try it again
[09:47] <macstar> looks better now
[09:48] <macstar> do the checkboxes (3rd party software and updates) yet work?
[09:48] <macstar> last time i tried it did crash the installer
[09:49] <valorie> someone else mentioned that - is it mentioned in the bug report?
[09:49] <macstar> working :)
[09:49] <valorie> great
[09:49] <macstar> FU....
[09:49] <macstar> crashed
[09:49] <valorie> most of the devels are at fosdem this weekend
[09:49] <macstar> i came till to the disk partition thing
[09:49] <valorie> so things here will be really slow
[09:50] <valorie> our kubuntu guys are staffing the KDE booth
[09:53] <macstar> ok another try
[09:56] <macstar> now another error
[09:56] <macstar> this is very bad
[09:56] <macstar> ubi-console setup failed with exit code 141
[09:57] <valorie> :(
[09:57] <macstar> i could click on retry (did not work) i clicked on ignore setup continues
[09:57] <macstar> this has traces of - dare i say? - windows in it :P
[10:00] <lordievader> Riddell, ovidiu-florin: In which room are you guys?
[10:03] <valorie> macstar: be sure to add your input on that bug report
[10:03] <macstar> valorie i might have installer just crashed again with absolutely no info in it :(
[10:03] <macstar> setup was pretty much at the end.... 16% when it was initialising the keyboard
[10:04] <valorie> I feel your pain
[10:04] <macstar> i will try if it still boots :P
[10:04] <valorie> honestly, all the times I've installed from an ISO, I've never had the installer crash
[10:04] <valorie> and only once during an upgrade
[10:05] <valorie> `sudo apt install -f` was my friend, fortunately
[10:05] <macstar> i ran so many different distros in VM everyone went well, except i think 14.10 beta was crashy too and now this :(
[10:06] <macstar> :( thing won't boot... i will give it another try 
[10:10] <macstar> now it can't create the swap partition
[10:11] <macstar> exit code 141 again
[10:11] <macstar> does the installer write an error log somewhere?
[10:21] <valorie> maybe, but I don't know where
[10:21] <macstar> anyway last try...
[10:22] <macstar> i can't even add a bug report because when i open a browser and after the installer crashed the whole virtual box hangs :(
[10:22] <valorie> :(
[10:23] <macstar> such a shame because plasma 5.2 looks very nice and feels fine as well
[10:23] <valorie> use `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` from the cli?
[10:24] <valorie> that's better anyway - automatically reports more info
[10:46] <valorie> macstar: I'm off to bed; please use ubuntu-bug as I said above if possible
[10:46] <macstar> valorie i am trying what i can do .... chose english as installer language now and it seems less crash prone
[11:01] <macstar> and there we go... when chosen english language in the installer, not a single error message or crash
[11:05] <soee> macstar: it is known that isntaller crashes with notenglish locale
[11:05] <macstar> soee it's know for me now too :)
[11:08] <soee> macstar: always worth heking known issues https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Alpha2/Kubuntu
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:20] <yofel>      4:14.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa2 0
[12:20] <yofel>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/universe amd64 Packages
[12:20] <yofel> wait what?
[12:23] <yofel> and that's not marked released in git either, wft?
[12:23] <yofel> ...
[12:25] <yofel> sgclark: are you possibly working on a machine that has the wrong default upload archive set?
[12:43] <yofel> [ubuntu] libkdegames_14.12.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes rejected
[12:43] <yofel> The signer of this package is lacking the upload rights for the source package, component or package set in question.
[12:43] <yofel> I wonder what the best way to sync our packageset is, because lately it feels like the kubuntu packageset contains almost no kde packages
[14:50] <sgclark> yofel: ? I don't know what you mean. context?
[15:17] <yofel> sgclark: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdegames/4:14.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa2 that version looks very wrong
[15:21] <yofel> great, even with all error logging off kwin still spams my x error log :S
[15:21]  * yofel checks both "disable all error output" boxes
[15:21] <yofel> lets hope that helps
[15:27] <sgclark> yofel: ahh yes I remember, that was right after I got dev status and I was trying to push to ppa for testing but it all went to archive.. I had to change my dput.cf to not have archive as default, however Riddell said he would upload all that properly after we tested it.
[15:27] <yofel> yeah, it seems like that kind of never happened
[15:27]  * yofel didn't check the upload date -.-
[15:27] <sgclark> doh
[15:34] <ScottK> FWIW, I don't think there's a developer who hasn't done a PPA upload to the archive be mistake.
[15:36] <sgclark> :)
[19:12] <soee> someone can confirm: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343630 ?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> hey soee 
[20:28] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:31] <soee_> :) connection lost
[22:20] <live-blizzz> hey. just on yesterdays vivid daily live session from usb stick. is it normal that in this case half of the settings do not work? (e.g. keyboard, power management, desktop theme, screen edges)?
[22:23] <live-blizzz> (non-persistant mode)
[23:01] <shadeslayer> live-blizzz: no
[23:01] <shadeslayer> I think that's not really expected
[23:01] <shadeslayer> define not working
[23:03] <live-blizzz> shadeslayer: settings do not apply. when i close and reopen settings, the state from before the changes is there again. 
[23:03] <shadeslayer> *shrug* not a clue
[23:03] <shadeslayer> I'll check on Monday
[23:04] <live-blizzz> ok. also get hot new stuff does not show anything, it just says loading from providers file failed
[23:04] <soee> live-blizzz: im on Vivid daily but not usb iso just plain installation
[23:04] <soee> and all works fine here
[23:05] <soee> but i remember bluskay said earlier that he had some problems with ssytem settings not sure what exactly thugh
[23:06] <live-blizzz> soee: could you try and add another screen edge functionality? does this work?
[23:06] <soee> one second
[23:07] <soee> live-blizzz: iv added on the bottom center to show desktop and it works
[23:08] <soee> live-blizzz: are you sure you are not using iso from kubuntu-ci ?
[23:08] <live-blizzz> soee: ok, this is one thing that does not work for me. glad it does there, too. 
[23:08] <live-blizzz> soee: yes
[23:09] <live-blizzz> i have it from here> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ 
[23:11] <soee> live-blizzz: ok cant help much here, i do not use them, but if they are teh same as normal installation with current updates, so all works ine for me
[23:11] <soee> *fine
[23:14] <live-blizzz> soee: they are. well,  i nevertheless updated and first i used persistant mode, but than performance went really really bad (lot of writing to a compressed file system?!), also the stick i use is not that big (4gig). maybe i should try again. although, some things did not work back then either (ghns). hm.
[23:14] <soee> well its USB
[23:15] <soee> so im not sure where it stores all the loaded data ? ram or usb ?
[23:15] <soee> so performance might not be that good
[23:15] <live-blizzz> now the performance is great
[23:16] <live-blizzz> i am not 100% sure where it goes. might be ram, but there is not much use actually
[23:16] <live-blizzz> just a bit more than 1gb (of 8) is in use
[23:16] <soee> ;-)
[23:17] <live-blizzz> it might well go on usb, but an overlay file system is used. no idea how it works technically. written to some free space temporarily_
[23:17] <live-blizzz> ?
[23:19] <soee> dont know :)
[23:19] <live-blizzz> when i download stuff now it is slow again. sounds like it is written to usb indeed. this cannot go well :D
[23:22] <live-blizzz> that`s a pity actually. i could try it in virtualbox, too, though i don`t like it much (for anything with a gui)
[23:23] <soee> so install it :)
[23:24] <live-blizzz> not so sure it`s a good idea yet an my money-making-machine ;)
[23:34] <live-blizzz> gn8