[00:00] <raven_> daftykins: i dont get it. doing it like its just a differnet account?
[00:00] <EriC^^> freeroute: yeah i think so
[00:00] <daftykins> raven_: ? no you just keep your user data in the /home partition so you don't have to keep backing up before reinstalls
[00:01] <daftykins> raven_: although perhaps you should share why you keep wanting to distro hop? if that's what you mean :)
[00:01] <supay> EriC^^: shit, so i should have gotten LXQT? :/
[00:01] <EriC^^> supay: it's ok i guess
[00:02] <supay> EriC^^: good.. i just went into panic-mode
[00:02] <raven_> daftykins: i was just checking some out before putting a new os on my work computer. now im fine with this one, but i dont want it on my personal laptop
[00:02] <Exploith> ruskiesgg: its been 2 buttons for years now
[00:03]  * Exploith slaps ruskiesgg with his un showered penis around a few times
[00:03] <Wombel> is an amd athlon x2 to slow for ubuntu?
[00:03] <raven_> i have alot of video/audio and it just takes a long time. I lost a bunch of music last time
[00:04] <daftykins> raven_: 'this one' ? but you keep backups anyway, right? so reinstalls don't lose anything...
[00:05] <Wombel> is an amd athlon x2 to slow for ubuntu?
[00:05] <daftykins> nope
[00:05] <daftykins> RAM + disk will be bigger factors of performance
[00:05] <Wombel> how much ram you need
[00:05] <daftykins> it won't be great by any means, i'd pick xubuntu over ubuntu
[00:05] <daftykins> 2GB minimum for xubuntu
[00:05] <Rachael24>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://s0o.de/f4t4dss
[00:05] <raven_> daftykins: uhhh not really. i tried to do an online storage once but it was more hassle than it was worth, and its why i lost my music
[00:05] <daftykins> well, to be comfy.
[00:05] <Wombel> it has 8gb
[00:06] <Wombel> i brought this pc for $8
[00:06] <daftykins> Wombel: that's nice
[00:06] <Wombel> auction
[00:06] <daftykins> raven_: i see. but anyway, nope - clean install to get from Mint -> ubuntu
[00:06] <raven_> I dont want to take up a bunch of space on the work computer for my own stuff
[00:06] <raven_> that sucks...
[00:07] <raven_> thanks
[00:07] <daftykins> such is ones penance for running Mint.
[00:07] <freeroute> !find megatools
[00:08] <freeroute> -_-
[00:08] <freeroute> "2013-03-10
[00:08] <freeroute> Megatools now play well with major linux distros, Ubuntu 12.04+, Fedora 17+, Arch Linux, Suse,... Mega library for building your own tools is now available!
[00:08] <daftykins> doesn't mean they're included in ubuntu
[00:08] <daftykins> just means they're available
[00:10] <freeroute> I thought find also searched in PPAs
[00:10] <EriC^^> nope
[00:10] <freeroute> in any case PPAs only have versions for 12.x
[00:10] <peyam> hi
[00:11] <peyam> hi
[00:11] <freeroute> any recommendations how I can upload a <10 MB file to a hosting service?
[00:11] <EriC^^> hi
[00:11] <freeroute> peyam: hi
[00:11] <peyam> I wonder if there is any plugins for xffe that shows all the open aplication windows like in Gnome when you hover the mouse to the top left corner
[00:21] <supay> EriC^^: would i use 'startx' to start lubuntu? or is it another command?
[00:21] <daftykins> sudo service lightdm start
[00:21] <EriC^^> supay: ^
[00:22] <supay> daftykins: and that would start the lubuntu desktop environment by default everytime i boot?
[00:22] <daftykins> nope
[00:22] <daftykins> that's a one-time logged in at a TTY kind of start
[00:22] <EriC^^> supay: it should start automatically i think
[00:23] <supay> EriC^^: it did! nice!
[00:24] <supay> i hope i can install the virtualbox addons now..
[00:24] <supay> otherwise it's stuck as a small window
[00:25] <EriC^^> you can always use grub to set a bigger resolution if it doesn't work out
[00:26] <supay> oh, okay
[00:33] <teo_> Hi
[00:33] <EriC^^> hi
[00:43] <jshanab> Is there any way to boot into a command line without starting all or a particular service? I added a piece of software that runs as a service and cuases a kernel panic
[00:44] <EriC^^> jshanab: add init=/bin/bash to your kernel line in grub
[00:44] <LtEddie> hi guys. I was curious if you can help me with something because htese others aint helping me :P. im trying to portforward to a vm thats in my dedi server and it isnt working
[00:44] <aeoril> I am wanting to start developing for Ubuntu.  I am interested in low level development (like kernel, drivers, modules, etc) but have not developed on Linux in a while.  I am trying to pick an appropriate image to start developing on from cdimage.ubuntu.com.  I found the images for Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (Trusty Tahr).  Would that be a good choice?
[00:44] <NegativeFlare> jshanab: recovery mode
[00:44] <LtEddie> I typed this in: iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 192.168.122.217 --dport 28015 -j ACCEPT
[00:45] <jshanab> EriC^^ thanks
[00:45] <jshanab> recovry mode still starts it and crashes.
[00:45] <EriC^^> jshanab: run mount -o remount,rw /
[00:45] <EriC^^> jshanab: after you get the shell
[00:45] <LtEddie> I get an error from the game when I join the server and its Failed to establish connection to server - no response from remote host. the vm has Microsoft Server 2012 R2
[00:47] <jshanab> I get to a shell but the keyboard does not work LOL
[00:47] <LtEddie> ?
[00:47] <aeoril> When I looked at later builds, they only had source images, except the daily build, but I am not sure I need to use the daily build image just starting out
[00:47] <daftykins> LtEddie: sorry, Windows issue
[00:48] <LtEddie> no no but I am doing this with ubuntu
[00:48] <LtEddie> because as I said this has a kvm
[00:48] <LtEddie> am I doing something wrong?
[00:48] <daftykins> still a Windows product :)
[00:48] <LtEddie> I did this fine with Debian but im struggling with this now
[00:48] <LtEddie> well I didnt do this fine with debian so im trying with ubuntu now lol
[00:48] <NegativeFlare> LtEddie: That's still a windows issue. Its probably not the VM software. Its probably windows, being windows.
[00:49] <LtEddie> oh I see.
[00:49] <daftykins> running minecraft from a windows server OS is pants on head laughable :)
[00:49] <daftykins> er, although having said that i don't know where i got minecraft from
[00:49] <daftykins> perhaps it's friday night
[00:49]  * daftykins strolls off
[00:50] <LtEddie> I see. is there a way to launch an exe file in linux then?
[00:50] <geektech713> WINE
[00:50] <LtEddie> because thats why I have microsoft server as a VM >.>
[00:50] <LtEddie> wine doesn't work
[00:50] <Nonon> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 14.10 on an ASUS X551CA with a Ralink RT5390 WiFi adapter.
[00:50] <geektech713> or playonlinux
[00:50] <LtEddie> the things I need are garbage
[00:50] <Nonon> I'm getting "WiFi disabled by hardware switch"
[00:50] <Nonon> Despite not having one of those
[00:50] <geektech713> hmm
[00:50] <daftykins> Nonon: it will do, it'll be like Fn+<function key>
[00:50] <Nonon> Ant ideas?
[00:50] <LtEddie> geektech713: ddoes playonlinux allow me to run a server for Rust?
[00:51] <daftykins> or, power off, pull the mains and battery, then power back on after a few mins
[00:51] <OerHeks> Nonon, FN key + top row?
[00:51] <geektech713> i dont think so
[00:51] <NegativeFlare> wait, isn't Rust for linux as well?
[00:51] <morgan_> Any other artists on linux here?
[00:51] <Nonon> daftykins: F2 has the WiFi logo but Fn+F2 doesn't enable WiFi
[00:51] <Nonon> For whatever reason
[00:51] <daftykins> Nonon: "rfkill --list all" show anything?
[00:52] <daftykins> might be without the --
[00:52] <geektech713> try the wifi key on the laptop
[00:52] <daftykins> yeah, we said that
[00:53] <Nonon> daftykins: asus-wlan isn't soft or hard blocked
[00:53] <Nonon> phy0 is hard blocked
[00:53] <daftykins> Asus laptops mostly use Windows software to turn on/off the wifi though
[00:53] <daftykins> Nonon: sudo service network-manager restart ?
[00:54] <Nonon> daftykins: done, got the same thing
[00:54] <daftykins> logout + in
[00:55] <Nonon> Same thing, but a toast with "Disconnected - you are now offline" showed for a few seconds
[00:56] <daftykins> ah well, i still like my mains + battery idea
[00:56] <NegativeFlare> Nonon: ifconfig shows that you don't have an IP correct?
[00:58] <Nonon> NegativeFlare: I think?
[00:59] <EriC^^> Nonon: has it ever worked before?
[00:59] <Nonon> EriC^^: no, this is a brand new install
[00:59] <EriC^^> Nonon: on the pc i mean
[00:59] <NegativeFlare> Nonon: What do you mean you think? o_O
[00:59] <Nonon> Yeah, works great in Windows 8.1 and 10
[01:00] <NegativeFlare> Nonon: it doesn't show something like this:           inet addr:10.0.0.2  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:00] <EriC^^> Nonon: ok
[01:00] <EriC^^> Nonon: type ifconfig
[01:01] <daftykins> Nonon: hang on, so you still have any Windows installed?
[01:01] <Nonon> daftykins: I do
[01:01] <daftykins> why don't you boot in and check the asus wifi utility doesn't have it turned off?
[01:05] <Nonon> daftykins: I managed to fix it by messing with wmi, thanks
[01:05] <daftykins> how-so exactly?
[01:05] <Nonon> echo "options asus_nb_wmi wapf=4" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/asus_nb_wmi.conf
[01:06] <h6> z
[01:06] <Agent_Smith_BR> 
[01:07] <cyberpolice> hello. i want to reinstall all my programs. i only have access to /etc /var and /home. can i generate a list of packages there were installed on the system from those log files/config files so i can feed it to sudo apt-get install blablabla, where blablabla is the packages it found in those dirs?
[01:07] <cyberpolice> i dont have access to my machine anymore
[01:07] <cyberpolice> besides the backup
[01:08] <daftykins> cyberpolice: what do you mean reinstall a system you 'don't have access to' ?
[01:08] <daftykins> why don't you have access to it?
[01:09] <bekks> And how would you install a system you 'dont have access to'? :)
[01:09] <daftykins> all this and more, stay tuned to #ubuntu
[01:09] <cyberpolice> the machnes filesystem was too corrupt. i formatted it. and i only have backup of the /home /var and /etc dirs in a zip file i saved myself at one point. i want to reinstall all the packages onto the same machine now
[01:10] <cyberpolice> i meant i dont have access to the old machine to run dpkg -l anymore
[01:10] <daftykins> oh well then you're hosed
[01:10] <daftykins> surely you can remember what software you use
[01:10] <cyberpolice> yea but... its gonna take a long time
[01:10] <cyberpolice> to figure out as needs arise
[01:11] <daftykins> c'est la vie?
[01:11] <daftykins> i can think of far worse situations
[01:11] <goodluck> hi,budy,how to access python idle in ubuntu
[01:11] <cyberpolice> arent those dir backups useful though
[01:11] <cyberpolice> its got /var/apt /var/dpkg stuff and maybe even stuff in /etc ?
[01:12] <jshanab> I cannot get the keybaord to work when I use init=/bin/bash in grub to fix a service that crashes on start
[01:12] <Jordan_U> goodluck: Have you installed one of the idle-python packages yet?
[01:13] <daftykins> jshanab: use recovery mode instead
[01:13] <Jordan_U> jshanab: Have you tried single user mode rather than init=/bin/bash ?
[01:13] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: the list of installed packages are in /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:14] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: i didnt backup /var/lib/* for some reason. any other ideas
[01:14] <jshanab> single is recovery, recover still starts the service that crashes the box. I have tried editing a few of the grub screens
[01:14] <daftykins> jshanab: live session and chroot then?
[01:14] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: what did you back up in /var ?
[01:14] <goodluck> Jordan_U:no,thanks for hitting me
[01:14] <jshanab> I can get to a bash prompt but the keyboard is dead
[01:14] <Jordan_U> jshanab: What service?
[01:14] <jshanab> Once installed, ubuntu no longer sees the USB as bootable.
[01:15] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: log/  mail/ swap  www/
[01:15] <cyberpolice> stupid... me
[01:15] <EriC^^> log is good
[01:15] <EriC^^> all of log is there?
[01:15] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: it looks like it
[01:15] <cyberpolice> decent amount of logs there
[01:15] <Jordan_U> goodluck: I don't know what you mean by "hitting". Do you know how to install software in Ubuntu in general?
[01:15] <jshanab> It is software I work on that installs as a service. I have actually pleaded for them to change the way they do this so that customers in the field do not have to send boxes back ...
[01:16] <Jordan_U> jshanab: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB and disable the service?
it menas give me a hint,can i do sudo install idle
[01:17] <cyberpolice> theres a lot of /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/apt/term.log and /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:17] <jshanab> I used a liveUSB to install, but now it boots of the HD and will not boot the liveUSB. THe bios is not seeing it to let me set the order, but .... let me try someting. If the darn keyboard would work after grub, id be fine
[01:18] <jshanab> Jordan_U this thing boots so darn fast, it is hard to catch it to fix it
[01:19] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: if you want a list of the stuff you installed manually, check /var/log/apt/history.log and ..log.1.gz etc.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> goodluck: Open Ubuntu Software Center and search for "python idle". You'll see that there is a 2.x version and a 3.x version available to install. I don't know which of the two you want.
[01:19] <jshanab> IT sees the USB but when it sees the HD, it takes over and goes to the drive? WTH?
[01:20] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: yeah i just began to read it. its all there. i need to grep it some how
[01:22] <Jordan_U> !software | goodluck
[01:23] <ubuntu> join #ubuntu-es
[01:23] <LurkAshF1ake> any good screen recorder?
[01:25] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: cat history.log | grep "apt-get.*install" | cut -d" " -f4-
[01:25] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: also use zcat for the other history.log.1.gz ones
[01:25] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: nice
[01:25] <cyberpolice> that is working
[01:26] <kahrl> LurkAshF1ake: ffmpeg
[01:28] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: a pipe to sort and uniq. and im done
[01:28] <cyberpolice> EriC^^: amazing. thanks so much!!!
[01:28] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: you might need to pipe it through sed 's/--reinstall//g' to remove the --reinstall in some lines
[01:29] <EriC^^> or just grep -v "\-\-reinstall" cause they should be already there
[01:30] <EriC^^> cyberpolice: cool, no problem
[01:30] <cyberpolice> :)
[01:31] <EriC^^> :)
[01:39] <budg> I'm trying to create an alias for sublime in ubuntu, but can't figure out what to set it to... "home/nickname/Sublime/sublime_text is just a binary file
[01:39] <budg> what type of file do you have to set it to
[01:39] <EriC^^> budg: what's the command you want to run?
[01:39] <budg> subl
[01:39] <budg> so it bashes' the program
[01:39] <EriC^^> what do you usually type to get it to work?
[01:40] <budg> i dunno, i am just setting up bash on ubuntu for the first time
[01:40] <budg> it should be alias subl = "....."
[01:40] <EriC^^> type whereis sublime
[01:41] <budg> sublime:
[01:41] <budg> (was the answer)
[01:41] <EriC^^> budg: ok, go to /home/nickname/Sublime and search for a bin
[01:41] <st3v3n> i just ran find /
[01:41] <st3v3n> o.o
[01:42] <Jordan_U> budg: Have you ever run sublime on this machine before? If so, how did you start it?
[01:42] <budg> jordan: no
[01:42] <budg> jordan: I am just setting up ubuntu for the first time, winblows was the worst
[01:43] <budg> don't see any bins
[01:43] <EriC^^> budg: type find /home/nickname/Sublime -exec file '{}' \; | grep ELF
[01:43] <budg> oh i do, but it just says "cannot execute binary file" when I try to bash it
[01:43] <EriC^^> !info sublime
[01:44] <alez> how to make sshd service start on boot?
[01:45] <budg> it points me to a binary file sublime_text, but i can't bash it
[01:45] <budg> it says "cannot execute binary file"
[01:45] <budg> although I can double click it to open
[01:46] <bekks> How do you "bash it"?
[01:46] <NegativeFlare> wait, what? budg, Are you saying you do this: bash <filename>?
[01:46] <budg> bash /home/nickname/Sublime/sublime_text
[01:46] <budg> yes?
[01:46] <budg> =[?
[01:47] <budg> oh sweet
[01:47] <budg> got it to work
[01:47] <budg> i assume I was using bash wrong =[[[
[01:47] <Jordan_U> budg: Drop the "bash", just run "/home/nickname/Sublime/sublime_text".
[01:47] <budg> thx
[01:48] <budg> i had an old windows machine that was dying and ubuntu has made it a great computer
[01:57] <ax562> does it matter if I choose to not have swap space in 12.04.5 lts 64bit.  I have 16 GB of ram?
[01:57] <EriC^^> ax562: do you need hibernation?
[02:01] <ax562> Eric^^ do I? lol
[02:02] <ax562> Right now my settings are set as default.  So the laptop hibernates every 10 min if not active or so.
[02:02] <EriC^^> ax562: in windows?
[02:03] <EriC^^> ax562: i think that
[02:03] <EriC^^> 's the suspend
[02:04] <budg> are there spyware hazards on ubuntu?
[02:04] <NegativeFlare> !virus | budg
[02:05] <jshanab> I have remade my liveUSB a second time and got the bios to boot it but when it boots it says" error: No such device:  {guid} Entering rescue mode.
[02:06] <Jordan_U> jshanab: How did you prepare the USB drive?
[02:06] <jshanab> unetbootin
[02:06] <jshanab> Once from a win7 machine and once from a OSX. same result
[02:06] <ax562> Eric^^ ubuntu of course
[02:06] <ax562> :)
[02:07] <Jordan_U> jshanab: Did you check the md5sum of the iso before loading it onto the USB drive? Did you try the self check in the boot menu?
[02:07] <ax562> dual boot
[02:07] <Jordan_U> jshanab: Also note that, while it's a pain, it's possible to mount filesystems and edit files (I *think* vi is available) via the initramfs shell.
[02:08] <ax562> does it matter if I choose to not have swap space in 12.04.5 lts 64bit.  I have 16 GB of ram?
[02:08] <EriC^^> ax562: you dont have swap right now?
[02:08] <ax562> my flash video is supper choppy in firefox
[02:08] <jshanab> unetbootin pulls it down and checks it as part of it's process. repeated twice from two differnt networks, two differnt machines and two differnt choices.
[02:08] <EriC^^> !swap | ax562
[02:08] <ax562> EriC^^ no.  I chose not to make swap because I have 16GB of ram
[02:09] <EriC^^> ax562: ok, depending on what you're using the pc for, swap wont matter unless you want to use hibernation ( which is saving the ram to disk and turning the pc off to resume later )
[02:09] <ax562> how can I turn hibernate off Eric^^
[02:10] <jshanab> Is the 14.04 lubuntu upstream image damaged?
[02:10] <EriC^^> ax562: what you're having is suspend, it turns most stuff off and keeps enough power to keep the programs in ram
[02:11] <LtEddie> are you guys sure its a problem with me?
[02:11] <LtEddie> im not even sure I did the port forwarding right either lol
[02:11] <LtEddie> and when I mean me, I mean microsoft server >.>
[02:11] <EriC^^> ax562: it uses very little power and can go on for a long period, eventually it will drain the battery
[02:12] <Xenos> you know what life needs more of? graphs.
[02:12] <Xenos> everything needs to be graphed
[02:14] <user2_> how do i rest my computer
[02:14] <Xenos> sleep
[02:15] <Xenos> suspend
[02:15] <Xenos> top right corner, press the crank, press suspend
[02:15] <Jordan_U> user2_: Reset in what sense?
[02:15] <budg> are there good laptop manufacturer's for ubuntu machines?
[02:15] <Xenos> budg, ibm
[02:15] <Xenos> dell i mean
[02:16] <user2_> reset it to what it was befor
[02:16] <budg> republicans :(
[02:16] <Xenos> hey a little bit of conservatism is ok
[02:16] <Jordan_U> user2_: What it was before what?
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Xenos: budg: This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only. Please move other comments elsewhere.
[02:17] <Xenos> sorry
[02:17] <user2_> yes what it was befor
[02:17] <budg> ==]]
[02:17] <LtEddie> iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 192.168.122.217 --dport 28015 -j ACCEPT < is this right cmd to port forward? :P
[02:18] <budg> are there other non-dell ubuntu laptops?
[02:18] <xangua> http://system76.com/ http://thinkpenguin.com/ budg
[02:18] <NegativeFlare> LtEddie: http://serverfault.com/questions/140622/how-can-i-port-forward-with-iptables
[02:19] <user2__> i my compuer
[02:20] <ax562> how can I turn hibernate off Eric^^
[02:20] <EriC^^> user2__: be more specific
[02:20] <Jordan_U> budg: Also http://zareason.com/ , http://www.gluglug.org.uk/ .
[02:20] <xangua> ax562: hibernate is not enabled by default
[02:20] <EriC^^> ax562: it's already off i guess
[02:20] <ax562> well why the hell does my laptop hibernate then
[02:21] <ax562> where can i find settings for hibernate?
[02:21] <xangua> in energy settings
[02:21] <EriC^^> ax562: that's suspend, not hibernate
[02:21] <EriC^^> ax562: does it turn off completely? as in you have to press the power button to start it?
[02:22] <ax562> no just click something
[02:23] <Jordan_U> ax562: That may not even be suspend then, it may just be turning off the monitor.
[02:23] <ax562> well yes.  It turns screen off and I have to enter password to log back in
[02:23] <ax562> how can i disable that?
[02:24] <basedblue> hi
[02:24] <EriC^^> settings > brightness & lock
[02:24] <ax562> ok thanks
[02:25] <basedblue> http://rap.hah.pw/notebooks/rapbot.ipynb#
[02:25] <basedblue> little project
[02:25] <ax562> will suspend cause problems if I do not have swap space?
[02:25] <EriC^^> no
[02:26] <ax562> ok thanks
[02:26] <ax562> well what about choppyness
[02:26]  * EriC^^ wonders what happens if swap is full and somebody suspends
[02:26] <ax562> how can I figure out if I have all my proper drivers installed?
[02:28] <basedblue> yo
[02:28] <basedblue> http://rap.hah.pw/notebooks/rapbot.ipynb is this any good
[02:28] <asarch> My laptop turn off at the middle of apt-get -y upgrade, who can I know if everything went fine? :'-(
[02:28] <d001fdkn> Hello, I was doing an assignment on Unix adminstration and which included writing scripts to back up home directory using tar applications as well and using crontab to back up, writing scripts to  boot machine to text mode and to configure box so that user should change password every 30 days with a warning given 7 days before password change. When I restarted my box, I get a message saying my system is running low on in graphics mode and screen, graphic
[02:28] <d001fdkn> s card and device settings could not be detected correctly.  It also says I have to configure these myself.  Any help with this please?
[02:28] <EriC^^> asarch: cat /var/log/apt/term.log
[02:30] <michael_j> I uninstalled ubuntu one from my 12.04 system - there isn't any reason to keep it is there since the cloud is not there anymore
[02:30] <daftykins> d001fdkn: 'unix' and you used ubuntu? :)
[02:30] <d001fdkn> daftykins, yes ubuntu 12.10
[02:30] <redlama42> No one is chilling on ##ubuntu-unity :(
[02:31] <xangua> d001fdkn: please upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[02:31] <xangua> please as in now please now
[02:31] <d001fdkn> xangua, but how can i configure my graphics card to be able to do that
[02:32] <xangua> d001fdkn: you have greater issues than your graphic card, please use a supproted ubuntu release
[02:33] <Jordan_U> d001fdkn: You most likely will not have this problem with Ubuntu 14.04, which is probably the version you should use. You definitely should *not* use Ubuntu 12.10. Other reasonable choices include Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 14.10.
[02:33] <d001fdkn> xangua, Jordan_U  ok but how can i do that with the message on my screen now?
[02:34] <daftykins> d001fdkn: 12.10 as mentioned is dead and unsupported. put something new on then we can help (:
[02:34] <redlama42> Plus, pretty sure 12.10 has stopped getting security updates. That's dangerous.
[02:34] <daftykins> yes, ages ago
[02:34] <daftykins> !12.10
[02:34] <EriC^^> ctrl+alt+f1 the upgrade
[02:34] <daftykins> nearly a year
[02:34] <Jordan_U> d001fdkn: The simplest solution would be to boot from an Ubuntu 14.04 LiveDVD or LiveUSB and install Ubuntu 14.04.
[02:34] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades
[02:35] <d001fdkn> Jordan_U, I need to back up
[02:35] <EriC^^> fresh install would be best as Jordan_U suggests
[02:35] <Jordan_U> d001fdkn: OK. You should be able to backup your files in "low graphics mode".
 yes I agree, but I need to back up
[02:36] <EriC^^> back up then
[02:36] <EriC^^> you can do it ;)
[02:37] <ceobb> cade as bucetas?
[02:37] <ax562> how can I figure out if I have all my proper drivers installed?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> d001fdkn: And if your instructor recommended that you install Ubuntu 12.10, please tell them that we recommend that in the future they at least suggest that students use a long term support release of Ubuntu, and to never suggest that students run an EOL release.
[02:37] <d001fdkn> Jordan_U, EriC^^, thanks
[02:38] <d001fdkn> Jordan_U, haha ok
[02:38] <Jordan_U> d001fdkn: You're welcome :)
[02:39] <ax562> anyone?
[02:39] <asarch> EriC^^, I guess that if see the "Log ended: 2015-01-30  20:13:48" everything was fine, right?
[02:40] <ablest1980> axr62 go to ubuntu software and the moniter icon the says install underneath it
[02:40] <ablest1980> ax562
[02:40] <ablest1980> ubuntu software center
[02:42] <ablest1980> ax562 go to ubuntu software center click the moniter icon the says (installed) underneath it
[02:43] <EriC^^> asarch: if it ends with Setting up it's probably ok
[02:43] <asarch> THANK YOU
[02:43] <asarch> Thank you very much
[02:43] <EriC^^> you're welcome
[02:43] <asarch> I owe you a couple of beers :-)
[02:43] <EriC^^> :)
[02:44] <ax562> ablest1980 I don;t see drivers tab/option
[02:45] <ablest1980> ax562 sorry
[02:45] <ablest1980> i dont know
[02:50] <sheena1> I'm trying to figure out how to connect two computers together via a usb cable. I can get them to ping each other and even get the ssh connectio up successfuly, but only for a minute or two before it "disconnects" via the network manager (I think). does anyone know how I can control the timeout on the network manager, or some other work around?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Why not use an ethernet cable?
[02:59] <sheena1> i dont have a crossover cable or access to a router
[02:59] <sheena1> and this is working, if i could gt it to stop disconnecting...
[02:59] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Do you have a straight through cable? For modern hardware you rarely need a crossover cable?
[03:00] <sheena1> everything i've read says i need a cross over cable.. i have one still in a packae that i can try, but was hoping to return it since this usb one works
[03:03] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Ethernet over USB is a little obscue. Connecting two USB peripherals together is more obscure. Connecting two USB hosts together is even more obscue. Doing USB over ethernet between two hosts is pretty darn obscure, which means that bugs should be expected as it's rarely tested. So please file a bug report as this bug isn't likely to be hit through normal testing, but if you want a reliable working system then ...
[03:03] <Jordan_U> ... just use an ethernet cable.
[03:03] <Jordan_U> !bug | sheena1
[03:03] <nylon100> My friend told me he got "nazim" for his keyboard, or PC. But, WTF is nazim ? :-)
[03:04] <Jordan_U> nylon100: How does that relate to Ubuntu?
[03:05] <cenobite_> Hi, This is probably a silly question, but has anyone got xpenguins too work in 14.04?
[03:05] <agent_white> cenobite_: What's silly is not asking what issue you're having! ;)
[03:06] <nylon100> Jordan_U: We talked about something related to Ubuntu and then he said "Oh, and I got some nazim for my keyboard" and I continued with "Aha" like a jerk, without understanding what nazim means. Maybe I mistakenly heard something else. But it is very close to how you pronounce "nazim". No idea?
[03:06] <cenobite_> I had installed it, but the lil fellers aren't showing up
[03:06] <sheena1> Jordan_U:  you think this is a bug? and don't know how to change the reset/disconnect timeout on the network manager?
[03:07] <Jordan_U> sheena1: The connection should not be constantly resetting, so the fact that it is implies that there is either a hardware problem or a software bug. I'm guessing it's a software bug.
[03:08] <sheena1> its never connecting
[03:08] <geektech713> new router?
[03:08] <sheena1> its trying to connect, but never succeedig, so it stops trying after a bit of time
[03:08] <sheena1> maybe... 2 mintes?
[03:08] <agent_white> cenobite_: Maybe try stopping the daemon, `tail -f /var/log/kern.log`, and starting up the daemon to see what's happening?
[03:09] <cenobite_> ok thank-you angent_white :)
[03:09] <Jordan_U> sheena1: "and this is working, if i could gt it to stop disconnecting". So, in what way is this setup "working"?
[03:09] <sheena1> i can ping
[03:09] <sheena1> i can transfer files
[03:10] <sheena1> but after about 2 minutes
[03:10] <sheena1> i have to redo some commands
[03:10] <sheena1> to get it to work again
[03:10] <sheena1> shoul i paste them here?
[03:10] <sheena1> in computer A: sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 up;   sudo route add -host 192.168.1.2 usb0
[03:10] <sheena1> In computer B: sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 up;  sudo route add -host 192.168.1.1 usb0
[03:11] <sheena1> ometimes i only have to redo computer A
[03:11] <Jordan_U> sheena1: "its never connecting" How can that be true if you're able to ping? Is it that network manager is never detecting that it has successfully connected even though it has?
[03:11] <sheena1> i guess so. if you define "able to ping" as successfully connected
[03:12] <Jordan_U> sheena1: What definition of "not connected" allows for files to be transferred over the "not connected" link?
[03:13] <skweek> why isn't my webcam working in flash?
[03:13] <sheena1> um... the gui thingy says "You are disconnected" .. :)
[03:14] <skweek> No Camera Selected
[03:18] <Jordan_U> sheena1: OK.
[03:18] <agent_white> sheena1: You may need to get some packet traces to see what all is going on :)
[03:18] <sheena1> Jordan_U: but you're right, obviously it IS connected
[03:18] <sheena1> agent_white: I'm not sure how to do that, but I'm interested
[03:18] <agent_white> sheena1: Definitely the best time to learn it!
[03:18] <Jordan_U> sheena1: You're not using network manager to create this connection, so I'm not surprised that it doesn't show it.
[03:19] <agent_white> sheena1: I would recommend wireshark to start off. Then you'll be able to select that interface and capture all traffic on it.
[03:19] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Please pastebin the output of "nm-tool".
[03:20] <sheena1> installing wireshark now
[03:20] <sheena1> http://pastebin.com/KnrJWNBj
[03:22] <Jordan_U> sheena1: OK, I would recommend simply setting up the connection in network manager rather than using ifconfig and route.
[03:23] <sheena1> i tried... i had zero success. ideas?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> sheena1: What exactly did you try?
[03:23] <sheena1> clicking "Connect" ?
[03:23] <agent_white> sheena1: I think that using `ip` would be the best (basically the same as you were doing before).
[03:23] <sheena1> changing the values in the GUI of network manager to various ip things
[03:23] <agent_white> Much better to use the CLI instead of a GUI to get into the nitty of things.
[03:24] <ax562> how can I figure out if I have all my proper drivers installed?
[03:24] <sheena1> nmcli? i've never used it, but i could try.. i guess i didnt realize that nmcli and the stuff i'm doing now arent thes ame
[03:24] <agent_white> I doubt those settings are off, rather it being a setting on the interface that needs to be adjusted (I _THINK_).
[03:25] <Codmadnesspro> How would I allow only RSA login though ssh?
[03:26] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Use nm-connection-editor to add a manual connection, using the same ip address and mask you specified with ifconfig.
[03:26] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Inside /etc/ssh/sshd_config, there's a line "RSAAuthentication", uncomment it and make sure it says "RSAAuthentication yes" and that "PubkeyAuthentication" is commented out.
[03:27] <sheena1> i'll have to look up the syntax. is there anythingi should do to reset/undo what i've done so far?
[03:27] <sheena1> and i'll do this on both machines i assume?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Yes, with different ip addresses of course.
[03:28] <agent_white> sheena1: I recommend that you peek at wireshark first before doing anything more :)
[03:28] <Jordan_U> sheena1: And actually your subnet mask should be 255.255.255.254 , since there are two ip addresses on this network.
[03:28] <agent_white> Can't fix an issue without seeing what's causing it!
[03:29] <sheena1> different from the ones i've already used, you mean? just pick some? like, 10.0.0.1 ?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> sheena1: No, I mean different from each other.
[03:29] <sheena1> oh sorry. yes
[03:29] <sheena1> i was just changing the last digit.. 1 and 2
[03:29] <sheena1> that is ok, right?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Yes.
[03:30] <sheena1> i just read that in a tutorial online..
[03:30] <r_await> 255.255.255.252?
[03:31] <ax562> how can I figure out if I have all my proper drivers installed?
[03:32] <sheena1> so im trying to find nm-connection-editor syntax and it tells me its the GUI interface.. ? is that correct, Jordan_U?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Yes.
[03:33] <sheena1> i will try it again, but i've done that already and it did not work. you want me to CREATE a wired connection? not edit the existing one?
[03:33] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Just run "nm-connection-editor". You can also get to the same thing from the network manager applet, but I don't have nm-applet in front of me at the moment to say how.
[03:33] <agent_white> ax562: More importantly, what makes you think they aren't?
[03:33] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Yes, create a wired network.
[03:33] <Codmadnesspro> I restarted the whole vps and i can still login with password
[03:34] <Codmadnesspro> I only want ssh keys
[03:34] <sheena1> Jordan_U: Method: Manual ? Automatic (DHCP) i the default
[03:34] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: No need to restart the vps, only the sshd daemon.
[03:34] <sheena1> thats where i was putting the IP before..
[03:34] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Manual.
[03:34] <sn33zy> okay in the past the cursor was never a problem.  now i see the cursor at the login screen but i cant move it and when i login it disappears.
[03:34] <sheena1> under IPv4 settings
[03:35] <sn33zy> i installed ubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit
[03:35] <Jordan_U> sheena1: When you're done configuring it please post a screenshot of each machine's configuration.
[03:35] <sheena1> no gateway?
[03:35] <Codmadnesspro> agent_white, it shouldve worked though even if i restarted the whole thing or not, I can still login with password
[03:35] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Are you trying to access the internet connection available to one machine from the other, or are you only trying to communicate between the two machines?
[03:36] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Have you already generated your ssh keys, and copied them to the remote box?
[03:36] <sheena1> im trying to communicate between them, but the first option would be better.. i assume the second is easier, since oyu said 'only'
[03:36] <sheena1> if the other machine could use internet, this would be a non issue, obviouly :)
[03:37] <Codmadnesspro> agent_white, yes I can use my ssh keys to login
[03:37] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Is "PasswordAuthentication no" in your sshd_config?
[03:37] <agent_white> As well as "ChallengeResponseAuthentication no" ?
[03:37] <Jordan_U> sheena1: If you want to share an internet connection, then on the machine connected to the interent set the connection to "Shared to other computers", then simply connect the other machine (the first machine will start a DHCP server, so no manual configuration of the second is needed).
[03:38] <Codmadnesspro> yes
[03:38] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Is the password for the user on the box being asked, or did you set a passphrase on your id_rsa file?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> sheena1: That will allow you to transfer files between the two machines, as well as allowing the second machine to use the first's internet connection.
[03:39] <Codmadnesspro> agent_white, no password was set in the keys, I can just goto the user and login with normal password
[03:39] <sheena1> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gz0iz47Lgdk/VMxN9V5ZWfI/AAAAAAAAb9s/_V5trPiPLxo/w743-h557-no/IMG_20150130_193714.jpg computer 2 (the one without internet) ipv4 configuration. this is what you mean?
[03:39] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Mind tossing your sshd_config inside a pastie or gist?
[03:40] <ax562> agent_white because my flash video in fire fox gets choppy sometimes
[03:41] <agent_white> ax562: What do you mean "choppy" ?
[03:42] <Jordan_U> sheena1: If you want to go the shared internet approach then just remove all network-manager connections relating to usb0. Once computer one is configured properly, computer 2 will Just Work™.
[03:42] <sheena1> http://imgur.com/0SHjZvy computer 1 (laptop wtih internet, the one i'm using daily)
[03:42] <ax562> it studders sometime
[03:43] <Codmadnesspro> agent_white, ok
[03:43] <sheena1> both show connected now, but ping doesn't work..
[03:43] <ax562> I'm just trying to optimize my new ubuntu setup
[03:44] <agent_white> ax562: On specific sites/content/etc?  Is it choppy or internet lag?
[03:44] <sheena1> home@home:~$ ping 192.168.1.2      PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) 56(84) bytes of data.      From 24.70.52.137 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[03:44] <Jordan_U> sheena1: You don't seem to be following the directions I gave for internet sharing (which is actually slightly easier to setup with network-manager). Do you want internet sharing or not?
[03:44] <agent_white> ax562: Aye, just gotta narrow down your issue a bit more to figure out what's going on :)
[03:44] <agent_white> :/
[03:44] <netlar> Is there going to be a contact app as part of the core apps when Unity 8 comes out?
[03:45] <sheena1> ok sorry. i was in the middle of that process and missed the instructions
[03:45] <sheena1> remove all network manager connections relating to usb0
[03:45] <Codmadnesspro> agent_white, http://pastebin.com/88ysDLcP
[03:45] <sheena1> on both computers?
[03:45] <agent_white> sheena1: I'll stay out of this one, but again... your original setup with ipconfig was fine. Grab wireshark, look at data on the wire, and then you'll know what to do next :)
[03:46] <agent_white> If it wasn't,  you wouldn't be able to even ping in the first place.
[03:46] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Remove all connections on computer 2. On computer 1, set "Method" in ipv4 settins to "Shared to other computers".
[03:46] <sheena1> Jordan_U: i am going to remove all connections in nm-connection-editor on computer 2 now
[03:47] <sheena1> ive set Jordan on computer 1 to "shared o other computers" and did not make any other changes
[03:47] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Great.
[03:47] <sheena1> should i click "auto ethernet" in the GUI menu on computer 2's taskbar?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> sheena1: No. You should, if anything, click the name of the connection you just made (presumably "Jordan", since that's what you were naming the network in your last screenshot).
[03:49] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Sorry, I mean yes though it should automatically connect :)
[03:49] <sheena1> on computer 2? i just deleted it
[03:49] <Jordan_U> sheena1: I misread the "computer 2" the first time :)
[03:49] <sheena1> i've enabled jordan on computer 1
[03:49] <sheena1> ive clicked auto thernet on computer 2
[03:50] <ax562> agent_white I checked the drivers option in settings and I don't have any proprietary drivers available :(
[03:50] <sheena1> i have pings to google.com in command line
[03:50] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Here... move your current config into a backup file.
[03:50] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: And use this instead. http://pastebin.com/c3wY54C7
[03:50] <sheena1> Jordan_U: i just used the web browser to get to a website!! Internet achieved!!!
[03:50] <agent_white> !
[03:50] <Jordan_U> sheena1: :)
[03:51] <sheena1> you mentioned there was an easy way to share files, also? aside from using the internet, i mean?
[03:51] <agent_white> Codmadnesspro: Before doing so, stop the sshd service, of course.
[03:52] <sheena1> Jordan_U: if i should just use the internet, that's fine..
[03:52] <Jordan_U> sheena1: You can now use scp/sshfs/samba/... between the two machines. "ifconfig" will tell you the ip address network-manager automatically setup.
[03:52] <sheena1> oh
[03:52] <sheena1> awesome
[03:52] <sheena1> and that stuff doesn't go through the router/"outside internet" but directly between computers?
[03:52] <Codmadnesspro> ok one second
[03:53] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Correct.
[03:53] <sheena1> thank you!!!
[03:53] <Jordan_U> sheena1: You're welcome :)
[03:53] <sheena1> let me know if i can send you a tip or advertise something for you. i REALLY appreciate your help!
[03:54] <daftykins> in future when it breaks, buy a switch ;)
[03:55] <Jordan_U> Indeed. I really am surprised at how well this ended up working, given that it's over USB :)
[03:55] <sheena1> off to eat some supper. pm me if i can do anything for you Jordan_U,, i'd like to!
[03:55] <daftykins> wait, USB?
[03:55] <daftykins> wifi adapters, or?
[03:57] <wolfkinxoxo> niggerssssssssssssssssssss
[03:57] <sn33zy> okay... i got disconnected.  now can someone point me somewhere to get my mouse back.  like i said, i see the mouse at the login screen but it wont move and when i login there is no mouse
[03:57] <daftykins> is it USB?
[03:57] <daftykins> or a laptop
[03:57] <sn33zy> laptop mouse
[03:57] <daftykins> so, touchpad?
[03:57] <sn33zy> but it doesnt matter, i tried the usb mouse and that didnt do anything
[03:57] <daftykins> nevermind then
[03:58] <Jordan_U> daftykins: If I understood correctly, just a USB A to USB A cable between the two computers.
[03:58] <daftykins> wow and networking over that? interesting
[03:58] <sn33zy> USB 4 now? ... dang.
[03:59] <daftykins> no 4 no, i've seen 3.1c
[04:02] <jamie_> hey, I went to use ubuntu 14.04.1 to flash a new hard drive and pops up with com32 error, I think its a problem with the iso i have but am not sure
[04:11] <ronaldking12_> Hai.
[04:12] <divBy0> Soup.
[04:12] <ronaldking12_> Nothing much, just me correcting my 1331 speak
[04:13] <divBy0> righte'os
[04:15] <Finetundra> hello folks, I'm having issues installing amarok. i've already tried to install it several times, some throught the terminal and others the software centre and I've tried to run it with sudo. does anyone have any ideas?
[04:16] <bazhang> Finetundra, using what exact command
[04:17] <divBy0> Finetundra, what errors/output are you getting
[04:17] <Finetundra> bazhang, sudo apt-get nstall amarok
[04:17] <bazhang> install
[04:17] <bazhang> !info amarok
[04:18] <bazhang> Finetundra, does apt-cache search amarok show it or not
[04:18] <Finetundra> divBy0, give me a bit
[04:19] <Finetundra> hold on
[04:20] <K`zan> Hi Folks, just updated and got this:
[04:20] <K`zan> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[04:20] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[04:20] <K`zan> that log does not exist, help?
[04:20] <jamie_> I cant seem to install ubuntu kylin.....
[04:21] <divBy0> jamie_, what happens when you try
[04:21] <Finetundra> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/cNh7HREj
[04:21] <jamie_> com32 error... I think it may be from the iso
[04:21] <VergilPrime> Hello, this is my first install of Ubuntu outside of class. I am getting permission denied on everything. Currently I am trying to create a directory in my own home folder.
[04:21] <VergilPrime> I could use sudo -every- time but that's a bit tedious.
[04:22] <divBy0> jamie_, com32? anything else?
[04:22] <jamie_> i think it was no ui something... i dont remember sorry, but i have tried several flash drives, and sdcards
[04:23] <divBy0> jamie_, can you try an optical disc?
[04:23] <RahulAN> hii all
[04:23] <divBy0> y0
[04:23] <RahulAN> i am trying to remove mysql from ubuntu
[04:23] <jamie_> I dont have one.... but I have done it many times before... and this is the first time I have run into this error
[04:24] <Finetundra> bazhang, I think I've got it working now after updates were installed. However any input you have would be nice to know for future issues
[04:24] <RahulAN> i am getting this http://imgur.com/R9DuRvm
[04:24] <divBy0> jamie_, same hardware? its difficult to diagnose with no output/error information
[04:24] <RahulAN> i tried pressing all of the option many times it do not disappears
[04:24] <jamie_> ... I have tried more than one computer to
[04:24] <jamie_> I think it may be the iso
[04:25] <jamie_> the actual .iso filew
[04:25] <divBy0> jamie_, can you redownload the iso and then before making the boot disk verify checksums
[04:26] <K`zan> Well, apparently I'm the only one with the error, I expect X to fail when I reboot, but I can reinstall and just not update anymore.  Thanks folks!
[04:26] <jamie_> okay, one sec, I literally just finished downloading the the iso again
[04:26] <jamie_> how do i run a check sum, I dont know where to get the check sum data for the iso
[04:27] <divBy0> jamie_, where are you downloading it from
[04:27] <jamie_> ubuntu.com
[04:27] <divBy0> what os are you on right now
[04:27] <jamie_> um......
[04:28] <jamie_> base of ubuntu 14.10
[04:28] <jamie_> sorry... that wast to me....
[04:29] <t4nk645> I have been using remmina RDC to view remote gui interfaces by setting up ssh tunneling the vnc data but it gives me error protocol mismatch 003.007
[04:29] <t4nk645> what could be the eror?
[04:29] <divBy0> jamie_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[04:30] <divBy0> jamie_, what is the filename of the iso you download
[04:30] <t4nk645> I am using CentOS and ubuntu 12.04 in VMware
[04:30] <jamie_> divBy0: ubuntukylin-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:31] <mobyduck> I'm trying to download the new flash version from adobe. I pick "APT for Ubuntu" in the list of versions and hit "Download", and am then prompted to choose a program to open the file with. Naturally I choose Software Center, but then Software Center starts and says "There isn’t a software package called “adobe-flashplugin” in your current software sources."
[04:31] <divBy0> jamie_, the md5 sum for that file from the page i sent you is  0dcd597118420a1547ae6d76c0425b70
[04:32] <mobyduck> and the download never starts
[04:32] <divBy0> jamie_, copy the checksum from the website i sent you, not from the irc window, and put it into a text file
[04:32] <jamie_> wait... I think i may have the wrong iso..... I have a Intel processor
[04:32] <divBy0> no as long as its 64 bit
[04:32] <mobyduck> I don't seem to be able to just get the d**n APT-file downloaded and install it later, either. What do I do?
[04:32] <divBy0> jamie_, its fine as long as your architecture is 64 bit
[04:33] <jamie_> okay... wasnt sure... usually im used to haveing to match the exact matching for mozilla
[04:33] <Plasmastar> HIGHLIGHTS ARE BURNING ME ALIVE
[04:33] <divBy0> jamie_, then from a terminal in the same directory run $ md5sum filename.iso
[04:33] <divBy0> jamie_, then compare that with what you copied from the website into the text file
[04:35] <jamie_> okay, one sev
[04:35] <student> hi
[04:36] <divByz0> hello
[04:36] <VergilPrime> Sooo... about my permission problem...
[04:37] <student_> gu
[04:37] <jamie_> divBy0: matches exactly
[04:37] <student_> adi
[04:37] <student> hello
[04:38] <jamie_> I guess ill try again
[04:38] <VergilPrime> Please? D:
[04:39] <ax562> does anyone know if intel has support for linux video drivers?
[04:40] <ax562> does that even exist?
[04:40] <jamie_> divBy0: Im gonna try again... and write down what happens
[04:41] <jamie_> divBy0: so i have to pop off for a second
[04:41] <squinty> ax562:  afaik, intel video drivers are supported in the kernel
[04:42] <divByz0> jamie_, ok
[04:42] <ax562> OK thanks squinty
[04:42] <ax562> my other system has nvidia video card
[04:42] <ax562> I've never run linux with intel video driver
[04:50] <buddd> god programming is so much more fun on ubuntu than winblows
[04:52] <robin> budd : It's real true
[05:00] <linelevel> Hi, is it possible to connect to a VPN (OpenVPN) but contain the tunnel to a single terminal window? i.e. I want all my applications except for one terminal window to access the internet directly, but I want this one bash shell to go through the tunnel.
[05:03] <K`zan> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[05:03] <K`zan> Help?
[05:03] <sheena1> daftykins: its not 'just' usb a to usb a.. there's a dongle bit in the middle of the cable that contains.. something...
[05:05] <K`zan> During todays update:  Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[05:05] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[05:05] <K`zan> ^^^ does not exist.
[05:08] <Hongo> heelo
[05:09] <Hongo> hello*
[05:09] <Hongo> can someone help me?
[05:09] <agent_white> !ask | Hongo
[05:09] <Hongo> i ve a problem with reading a microsd memory
[05:13] <K`zan> During todays update:  Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[05:13] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[05:13] <K`zan> ^^^ does not exist.
[05:13] <Hongo> 8-)
[05:19] <jamie_> okay, I went though it again.... its popping of   Failed to Load COM32 file menu.c32
[05:20] <jamie_> I have never ran into this problem before....
[05:22] <jamie_> Any ideas
[05:24] <student_> tuna fish
[05:25] <jamie_> lol I dont think that will help... I am hungry though
[05:25] <student_> same here
[05:25] <jamie_> I could tell.....
[05:26] <jamie_> I just really need this install... I need to compile a os... and i Need to use my new hdd... I dont have enough room on my current hdd
[05:28] <jamie_> i think i might try another flavour.. that might work
[05:30] <jamie_> student_: I just really need to compile this... this is not fun trying to work with a 80gb hdd
[05:30] <Blue1> what are you trying to do @jamie_
[05:31] <jamie_> trying to install a os on a new hdd
[05:31] <Blue1> well the first thing is to set up the partitions
[05:31] <jamie_> that is not my problem.. this is not my first rodeo
[05:31] <Blue1> are you using msdos schema or uefi?
[05:31] <jamie_> its popping of   Failed to Load COM32 file menu.c32
[05:32] <Blue1> okay didn't know your experience level
[05:32] <student> vich one ayu usin..??
[05:32] <jamie_> I take ubuntu and just build my own most of the time base around it so that I dont have to update to the new linux kernal when it comes out
[05:33] <jamie_> Blue1: I have never ran into this problem before
[05:33] <Blue1> what flavour are you using?  straight ubuntu?  gnome?  kubuntu?
[05:34] <jamie_> ubuntu currently
[05:34] <jamie_> I am using 14.10
[05:34] <student> 14.1 here too
[05:34] <Blue1> I am using 14.04 lts
[05:35] <jamie_> oh... 14.04.1
[05:35] <jamie_> well in trying to install 14.10... my current one im on right now.... is not
[05:35] <jamie_> its not really anything
[05:36] <Blue1> I have not heard any issues with 14.10 -- i
[05:36] <jamie_> Mine is based around 14.10... not 14.10 anymore
[05:36] <Blue1> is there a reason (hardware perhaps) that makes you want 14.10?
[05:36] <student> 14.04 ..?? any good bro..???
[05:37] <ianorlin> yes
[05:37] <jamie_> Blue1: 14.10 is the beta technically
[05:37] <Blue1> @student I have been running 14.04 with no problems -- xubuntu and kubuntu
[05:37] <john_doe_jr1> I need to set up a cron job on an ubuntu box that logs into a windows machine through cygwin through ssh and backs up a database ….how would I being to write the script in bash?
[05:38] <Blue1> @jamie_ betas are known to break -- I think your best bet would be to try 14.04
[05:38] <jamie_> Blue1: like i said... its not exactaly 14.10 anymore.....
[05:38] <student> gotta update
[05:38] <jamie_> i have tried 14.04.1 and came up with this same error and also 14.10
[05:38] <jamie_> im trying to install....
[05:38] <Blue1> what hardware do you have?
[05:38] <jamie_> on which computer....
[05:39] <Blue1> like dell, gateway, toshiba...
[05:39] <jamie_> i have tried on two
[05:39] <Blue1> the one you are having issues with
[05:39] <jamie_> both
[05:39] <jamie_> i dont know why....
[05:39] <Blue1> okay do you know the name and model number?
[05:40] <jamie_> one is a custom  build using the motherboard of a hp elitebook 8440
[05:40] <Blue1> have you installed the operating system to a hard drive then, or are you trying to install it to a hard drive?
[05:40] <jamie_> the other is a dell latitude d620
[05:41] <Blue1> okay
[05:41] <jamie_> Blue1:  am on the custom build right now
[05:42] <Blue1> help me out -- are you trying to install it, or has it already been installed?
[05:43] <jamie_> one is already installed and the other has a messed up partitioning
[05:43] <hanuman> Hi, I am new to take backup of windows sytem, what is the way take backup of windows system from ubuntu server.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> hanuman, from command line: dd
[05:45] <Blue1> the specs on the dell only show 1G of ram
[05:45] <jamie_> I know
[05:45] <jamie_> i am just using it to install the os
[05:45] <jamie_> to the hdd
[05:45] <Blue1> I had problems running ubuntu in 1G -- you might look at xubuntu
[05:45] <hanuman> cfhowlett: what is dd
[05:45] <K`zan> During todays update:  Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[05:46] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[05:46] <K`zan> ^^^ does not exist.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> hanuman, !   it's a command.  open a terminal: man dd
[05:46] <jamie_> Blue1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/1190256
[05:46] <K`zan> ???  TMI
[05:46] <Blue1> jamie_: okay let me take a look at that
[05:46] <jamie_> nvidia 331 had a problem
[05:46] <K`zan> TMIA :-)
[05:46] <jamie_> **has
[05:47] <Blue1> jamie_: okay you are trying to boot off of a usb drive to install?
[05:47] <jamie_> Blue1: yes
[05:47] <jamie_> i dont have a disk
[05:47] <Blue1> jamie_: how did you create the usb stick?
[05:48] <jamie_> using unetbootin and also startup disk creator
[05:48] <Blue1> jamie_: it is saying there might be problems with unetbootin
[05:49] <jamie_> i have also tried startup disk creator
[05:49] <Blue1> jamie_: have you tried dd?
[05:50] <jamie_> what
[05:50] <skweek> I wish that I could get better intigration from virtualbox to ubuntu
[05:50] <skweek> like directly accessing the bluetooth or wireless card
[05:50] <Blue1> jamie_: dd will copy an iso file to another device.
[05:50] <cfhowlett> skweek, ask #vbox
[05:50] <skweek> or when I run a webserver on in a virtualbox being able to access it from ubuntu
[05:50] <skweek> oh :)
[05:51] <jamie_> Blue1:  as bootable
[05:51] <Blue1> jamie_: it will make an exact image of the iso whereever you put it -- if it's bootable the destination should also be bootable
[05:52] <Blue1> something like dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/whatever device
[05:52] <jamie_> Blue1: one sec, im trying startup disk creator again.... last time it was on a sdcard and got a boot error and that is all it said... lol
[05:53] <hanuman> Hi, I am new to take backup of windows sytem, what is the way take backup of windows system from ubuntu server.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> jamie_, hmm.  never heard of anyone using sdcard as a bootable ...
[05:53] <Blue1> jamie_: I have had problems in the past with unetbootin -- I usually make a dd copy and that has worked for me.  I will tell you copying an image to a usb drive can take hours
[05:54] <jamie_> cfhowlett: I have before... some bios can do it
[05:54] <friendfield_> Aaaand friendfield is in.
[05:54] <jamie_> mostly you have to setup the computer to allow it
[05:55] <Blue1> jamie_: on a system with that amount of ram, xubuntu may be your best bet
[05:55] <friendfield_> Hello ladies and gentlemen. I'll take questions in four, whatever you want to prepare. Public liscense friendfield, guaranteed by ip, you can check em.
[05:55] <friendfield_> Hilikus. Good of you to join us.
[05:56] <jamie_> Blue1: that is not the system that is going to be running it
[05:56] <jamie_> I wish it were possible to compile on that crappy of a system....
[05:56] <jamie_> that thing would catch fire
[05:56] <Blue1> jamie_: okay you are just using that system to build the usb drive then?  dd is still probably your best option, imho.
[05:57] <jamie_> Blue1: no... lol i am just using it to install the os to the hdd, that is it.. then it will be moved to my build and then Im going to remake my os after i compile the other os i need
[05:58] <jamie_> I would do it on my current hdd.... but i dont have the room on my my stupid 80gb one.... it was a temp that lasted longer than i wanted
[05:59] <Blue1> jamie_: okay gotcha -- dd should do the trick - then boot the usb drive and install -- you might want the alternate (text) install
[06:00] <jamie_> got it
[06:00] <jamie_> Blue1: I used startup disk creator from gnome
[06:01] <jamie_> my only other option was to do a grub recovery... I do not exactly know how to do that
[06:02] <Blue1> jamie_: startup creator should work - but to be honest I've not tried that in quite a while
[06:02] <student> srvo
[06:02] <student> wc f3
[06:02] <jamie_> Blue1: like i said... i dont have standard ubuntu anymore... lol
[06:04] <Blue1> jamie_: what did you add/delete/modify?
[06:04] <hanuman> Hi, I am new to take backup of windows sytem, what is the way take backup of windows system from ubuntu server.
[06:05] <Blue1> hanuman: I would try using samba then you can mount it in linux and go from there.
[06:05] <cfhowlett> !backup | hanuman
[06:06] <jamie_> Blue1: most of the stuff to do with the dm and des also change a few of the repos, kept the update channel for the most part, also added a touch interface and separate bluetooth support due to what i need it for
[06:06] <jamie_> and a lot of stuff i need for mozilla
[06:07] <jamie_> Blue1: and its funny because i needed the more hdd space for the os i need to compile for mozilla related stuff.... lol
[06:08] <Blue1> jamie_: I know what you are doing but I only have familiarity with creating standard boot material
[06:09] <jamie_> Blue1: I like to make stuff to suit my specific use
[06:09] <Blue1> jamie_: wha mozilla stuff are you compiling?
[06:09] <jamie_> Blue1: firefox
[06:09] <Blue1> jamie_: well that's available out of the box from the standard repos.  personally I don't have a need to compile that.
[06:10] <jamie_> I need to flash the updated 2.2 base image
[06:10] <jamie_> Blue1: its not for my browser
[06:11] <Blue1> jamie_: way beyond my experience level
[06:11] <jamie_> Blue1: its for my phone
[06:12] <jamie_> firefox has a mobile os
[06:12] <Blue1> jamie_: i did some customs to mythtv awhile back - then removed them when it went wonky.
[06:12] <Blue1> jamie_: ahh so you are trying to develop stuff for a phone then....?
[06:12] <jamie_> Blue1: that happens sometimes when it comes to updates
[06:13] <jamie_> Blue1: I do testing and development for the firefox flame device. firefox is actually coming out with a os for phones soon,
[06:13] <Blue1> jamie_: it was unhappy with mysql 5.5 but works fine with 5.0 -- okay I just needed it to work
[06:14] <jamie_> Blue1: I am stupid and always thinking how this or that part or componet could work better
[06:14] <jamie_> or be easier or more versatile or user friendly
[06:14] <Blue1> jamie_: great learning experience I'll bet -- privite channel ok?
[06:14] <jamie_> sure
[06:19] <Prometheian> I'm using Sublime Text to edit some files that are in my /var/www folder. However I can't save anything. How can I allow saving without opening sublime using sudo?
[06:24] <Prometheian> nvm sudo chmod -Rv 777 .
[06:31] <cromagi> is there any other way to make a bootable windows usb than unetbootin
[06:31] <nessessary129> how to change the dns server in wvdial?
[06:31] <cromagi> ?
[06:31] <nessessary129> how to change the dns server in wvdial?
[06:31] <K`zan> During todays update:  Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[06:31] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[06:31] <K`zan> ^^^ does not exist.
[06:31] <K`zan> TMIA :-)
[06:32] <nessessary129> how to change the dns server in wvdial?
[06:32] <nessessary129> how to change the dns server in wvdial?
[06:33] <cromagi> is there any other way to make a bootable windows usb than unetbootin
[06:33] <cromagi> ?
[06:33] <cromagi> ?
[06:34] <cromagi> ??
[06:34] <cromagi> ?
[06:35] <divBy0> anyone use the global config file in scite? i'm trying to change the transparency of scite
[06:47] <suhg>   how can i learn english
[06:47] <chick_> how can I make the sed command edit the content of a file,  im using command and changes only appear in output
[06:47] <cfhowlett> suhg, wrong channel.
[06:48] <suhg> sad
[06:48] <ablest1980> suhg go to www.duolingo.com
[06:48] <suhg> lemme check that website
[06:49] <siddhism>  /join #gcompris
[06:49] <BlackDalek> How do I changed the login screen background image? Mine is stuck on xfce image (blue with the hamster or gerbil or whatever it is). How do I change it back to normal ubuntu image?
[06:49] <suhg>   by the way that website doesnt teaches english
[06:50] <cfhowlett> suhg, this is not the learn english channel. ask google.
[06:50] <siddhism> BlackDalek right click the desktop
[06:50] <siddhism> you will get options to set background image
[06:50] <ablest1980> suhg yes it does
[06:51] <suhg> awww
[06:51] <BlackDalek> siddhism, I do not want to change the desktop background image. I want to change the login screen image.
[06:53] <siddhism> sudo -i
[06:53] <siddhism> xhost +SI:localuser:lightdm
[06:53] <siddhism> su lightdm -s /bin/bash
[06:53] <siddhism> gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter draw-user-backgrounds 'true'
[06:53] <siddhism> gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter background 'path-to-image'
[06:53] <siddhism> exit
[06:53] <BlackDalek> siddhism, thanks ;)
[07:09] <BinaryFallen> Dudes I fucked up bad and am hoping someone can help.
[07:09] <divBy0> what happened
[07:09] <cfhowlett> BinaryFallen, drop the profanity.  immediately.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !langauge
[07:09] <divBy0> cfhowlett are you a bot
[07:10] <BinaryFallen> I had 2 partitions. One was a 100 gig win7 partition and the other was the rest of a tb that was a data parition that had my data on it. I overwrote the data one by accident. I used test disk to recover the 100 gig but I can't figure out how to recover my data drive
[07:11] <BinaryFallen> I basically have 900 gigs of free space and I'm trying to figure out how to change it so I can't make a new parition or bring back my old one on the 900 gigs to see if I can recover data
[07:11] <BinaryFallen> any ideas?
[07:12] <divBy0> if it shows as free i seriously doubt you are going to be able to get much off of it. you can try some of the forensic tools in a kali-linux live distro
[07:13] <BinaryFallen> http://pastebin.com/fNbpDaiF current disk structure
[07:13] <divBy0> maybe some of the windows recovery tools as a miracle but again i highly doubt it if windows is reporting that space as free
[07:13] <BinaryFallen> I mean if I can just recover the pictures I would be happy any ideas on specific software for that?
[07:14] <divBy0> theres a few. you'll probably get very little but hold on i'll look for what i've used in the past
[07:14] <BinaryFallen> thanks I appreciate that
[07:15] <divBy0> when you formatted was it in windows
[07:15] <BinaryFallen> yes, specifically and I will just get this out there I will be upfront about what happened.
[07:15] <BinaryFallen> I installed a shady version of win8 or was trying to
[07:15] <fnordism> i got a problem
[07:15] <BinaryFallen> this version was unattended I guess and auto wiped my paritions
[07:15] <fnordism> i can't see the fnord
[07:15] <BinaryFallen> I immediatly shut off the pc when I saw this
[07:16] <BinaryFallen> so I think it just took away the partition table for it
[07:16] <BinaryFallen> or so I hope
[07:16] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, well in a way that might be better for you because it probably did a quick format -- did it seem to take a while to format?
[07:16] <BinaryFallen> negative
[07:16] <BinaryFallen> it was rapid
[07:16] <BinaryFallen> and I turned it off asap
[07:16] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, i dont see any info about disk usage in that pastebin
[07:16] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, well theres hope
[07:17] <BinaryFallen> I mean I can see this as karma for trying to install a shady version of an OS so if thats what happens thats what happens I just hope I didn't cost myself 5 years of photos
[07:18] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, i dont know about that i only install shady windows
[07:18] <BinaryFallen> haha
[07:19] <BinaryFallen> well I don't want to sound like sombody whos going to make up an excuse about what happened ya know?
[07:19] <BinaryFallen> Better to just be forth coming
[07:19] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, while i'm looking, can you download a kali-linux live iso
[07:19] <BinaryFallen> already have one
[07:19] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, https://www.google.com/search?q=kali%20linux%20data%20recovery&gws_rd=ssl
[07:20] <BinaryFallen> thanks I will look into this
[07:20] <BinaryFallen> Appreciate the help
[07:20] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, first thing i would do if i were you though because thats going to take a lot of trial and error is try and get more info on drive partitioning
[07:20] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, specifically free space, that pastebin was vague
[07:20] <divBy0> BinaryFallen, if you find that we can help you more
[07:22] <K`zan> During todays update:  Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[07:22] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[07:22] <K`zan> ^^^ does not exist.
[07:22] <K`zan> TMIA :-)
[07:24] <mimarcu> hello all
[07:24] <divByz0> anybody have any input on whats more secure -- web-based mail or email client? im not looking for alternative cloud-based or pgp solutions... just one or the other
[07:25] <frex> hie y'all
[07:25] <divByz0> ahoy all
[07:25] <mimarcu> i have a question does anyone know how i can fix a missing classification.config file from my snort installation?
[07:26] <mimarcu> i accidentialy deleted it when i was reloading some rules
[07:27] <divByz0> mimarcu, where is it located? i could send you mine
[07:31] <genesis__> hi
[07:31] <divByz0> hello
[07:31] <genesis__> any idea abt truecaller
[07:32] <BinaryFallen> @divByz0 ok so what I'm doing right now is I figured out the start and end sector for the remianing space using test disk and gparted to confirm. I then when and made the parition logical set type to ntfs and am atempting to search the MFT to rebuild the boot sector
[07:32] <BinaryFallen> dear god I hope this works if not I will attempt the kali method\
[07:33] <divByz0> BinaryFallen, ok. so did you get any info on actual disk usage
[07:34] <genesis__> help me out guys
[07:34] <BinaryFallen> @divByz0 well I checked and I couldn't see anything for the empty space. It just showed up for my current live boot session and my 100 gig partition as well as my external
[07:34] <BinaryFallen> couldn't find anything on the free space
[07:34] <divByz0> it didnt say unallocated or free?
[07:35] <BinaryFallen> unallocated
[07:35] <divByz0> :/
[07:35] <BinaryFallen> yea
[07:35] <BinaryFallen> I'm feeling that way as well
[07:35] <BinaryFallen> this is kind of a latch ditch effort
[07:35] <divByz0> when you boot kali make sure to do it in forensic mode
[07:35] <BinaryFallen> if it goes south I will just dd the thing and start my life over :/
[07:35] <divByz0> don't access that drive with anything that might write to it
[07:36] <BinaryFallen> Oh I will man for sure
[07:36] <Grant_P> I've used the Intel raid manager to create a raid. At first the dmraid was automatically detecting the raid but at the incorrect size. I used mdadm --assemble --scan but not sure if this is creating a software raid or using my hardware raid, how do you tell?
[07:38] <BinaryFallen> Well I'm gonna go play some games while this attempts to rebuild I'll let you guys know if I make it or fail
[07:38] <BinaryFallen> thanks for the advice divByz0
[07:38] <divByz0> good luck!
[07:38] <divByz0> welcome
[07:40] <misa_> hola
[07:40] <misa_> hi
[07:40] <Guest52772> hi
[07:40] <Guest52772> there is someone here?
[07:40] <CaptDaags> howdy misa_
[07:41] <Guest52772> do you use ubunt?
[07:42] <CaptDaags> have 10 and 12.04LTS running here on various crappy lappies
[07:43] <zeon98> Hi all
[07:43] <zeon98> hope everyone is okay.
[07:43] <divBy0> hi
[07:43] <divBy0> anybody have any input on whats more secure -- web-based mail or email client? im not looking for alternative cloud-based or pgp solutions... just one or the other
[07:46] <Grant_P> Anyone able to help with fakeraid on ubuntu 14.04?
[07:47] <non> hellp
[07:47] <tresk_> I'm installing ubuntu with encrypted storage. Is it normal for it to look like the installation has stalled and the HD light sit on for ages?
[07:48] <K`zan> During todays update:  Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[07:48] <K`zan> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[07:48] <K`zan> ^^^ does not exist.
[07:48] <K`zan> TMIA :-)
[07:49] <tresk_> K`zan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/1268257
[07:50] <K`zan> tresk_: Thank you!
[07:51] <tresk_> K`zan: Not a full solution, unfortunately. It's affecting a lot of people, so it should be high priority though
[07:52] <Guest49717> ubuntu
[07:54] <K`zan> tresk_: Looks like I need to remove the nvidia prop driver and reboot and install it, kinda confused, yes :-).
[07:56] <tresk_> K`zan: I'm not too sure what the workaround is. I got the error on a machine that used to have an NVidia card and doesn't now, so I just removed the NVidia driver that I wasn't using.
[07:56] <K`zan> tresk_: Uh, where is the what that removes the nvidia driver.
[07:57] <K`zan> tresk_: Problem is that I tend to flightsim with X-Plane :-).
[07:57] <tresk_> K`zan: I'm pretty sure you can remove it from the "software centre" app. Flight sim might be affected while you don't have the NVidia proprietary driver
[07:59] <tresk_> You can keep an eye on the bug though, and reinstall the proprietary driver when it's resolved.
[08:01] <K`zan> tresk_:  Thanks, looking for it now.
[08:01] <K`zan> tresk_: Funny, this is the first kernel update where it was a problem, just interesting for a problem that has apparently been around for a while.
[08:02] <tresk_> K`zan: You might also be able to manually install the NV drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[08:02] <tresk_> At least until ubuntu's packaged ones work
[08:04] <avis> how does ubuntu 14.04 work with touchpads
[08:04] <avis> oops touchpad screens
[08:14] <alfatau> hello all. i'm running xubuntu and after resume from hibernation i can't detect any wifi network. networking is actually handled by NetworkManager, so my /etc/network/interfaces has only the "lo" entry. How can i restart the manager or debug what happened? thank you in advance
[08:16] <divBy0> alfatau, Try
[08:16] <divBy0> sudo service network-manager restart
[08:19] <divByz0> alfatau, for debuging check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[08:19] <zeon98> Hi all
[08:23] <Grant_P> Anyone able to help with fakeraid on ubuntu 14.04?
[08:23] <CaptDaags> hi zeon98
[08:23] <zeon98> hi CaptDaags
[08:26] <alfatau> divByz0: network-manager service does not exists.
[08:34] <liamneeson> Where's my daughter?!
[08:34] <liamneeson> Tell me where my daughter is.
[08:34] <liamneeson> I love her very much
[08:35] <K`zan> Removed the 3.14? nvidia driver and apparently installed 3.04 and things seem to be OK, will see when I try X-Plane though :-).  THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:37] <tresk_> K`zan: No probs
[08:39] <divBy0>  can anyone recommend the most secure mail client for linux?
[08:41] <PCPinjecti0n> So guys, i'm trying to ssh into a server. i put my .pub key into authorized_keys in the server. its telling me "Permission denied (publickey)"
[08:41] <PCPinjecti0n> when i attempt to ssh. anyone want to try to take a crack at this?
[08:41] <PCPinjecti0n> thank you in advance :)
[08:42] <PCPinjecti0n> anyone active?
[08:42] <Ben65> restart ssh
[08:43] <PCPinjecti0n> i've rebooted the server though
[08:43] <PCPinjecti0n> would it make a difference?
[08:43] <Ben64> maybe you didn't put the key in properly
[08:44] <PCPinjecti0n> i used scp
[08:44] <PCPinjecti0n> to move it
[08:44] <Ben64> try ssh-copy-id instead
[08:44] <divBy0> Ben64: hey youve been real helpful before, can you recommend in your opinion what would be the most secure email cient for ubuntu?
[08:44] <PCPinjecti0n> i've read that ssh-copy-id is the one that gives errors
[08:44] <Ben64> PCPinjecti0n: nah, works great
[08:44] <PCPinjecti0n> true
[08:45] <Ben64> divBy0: thunderbird?
[08:46] <Fuchs> PCPinjecti0n: could you check the rights of the public key (both machines) and private key (your machine),
[08:46] <Fuchs> PCPinjecti0n: plus, as said, run ssh with the verbose (-v) flag?
[08:47] <PCPinjecti0n> Fuchs: will do
[08:47] <divBy0> Ben64: you dont seem too convinced :-/
[08:49] <Ben64> i haven't used one in ages, but mozilla has a great team i'm sure it works great
[08:49] <Ben64> all gmail now
[08:51] <PCPinjecti0n> Fuchs: this is my .pub on my machine -rw-r--r--
[08:51] <Fuchs> PCPinjecti0n: already wrong, should be -rw-------  on your machine
[08:51] <PCPinjecti0n> Fuchs: and authorized_keys in the server is -rw---------
[08:52] <PCPinjecti0n> ah.
[08:52] <Fuchs> (as all files inside your ~/.ssh/
[08:52] <Fuchs> and they also have to belong to your user)
[08:52] <Ben64> -rw-r--r-- 1 ben64 ben64   733 Sep 15 23:40 id_rsa.pub
[08:52] <Ben64> 644 here
[08:52] <zeon98> Hi all
[08:52] <PCPinjecti0n> lol.
[08:53] <PCPinjecti0n> let me change it quick
[08:53] <zeon98> Anyone have any knowleage on linux hacking that would be happy to give me a few basic pointers.
[08:54] <Fuchs> PCPinjecti0n: and then again, a full verbose ssh log (feel free to blank out the host, do let the rest (name etc.) in though
[08:54] <Ben64> zeon98: not the channel for that
[08:54] <PCPinjecti0n> Fuchs: so i've changed the permissions
[08:54] <PCPinjecti0n> what does it have to be on the system?
[08:54] <PCPinjecti0n> ill do the -v right now
[08:55] <Fuchs> PCPinjecti0n: mine is -rw-r--r-- on the server   (again, should belong to the user)
[08:55] <zeon98> Sorry Ben64, poor phasing. I have a ubuntu box that has been hacked from what i have been told and want to protect myself for futher attacks.
[08:55] <Fuchs> also make sure the user names either match or specify the user while connecting  (either via the -l  (as in login, not upper case i) option or via the user@host syntax)
[08:56] <Ben64> zeon98: do updates often, for everything. be aware of what services are running, make backups, stay vigilant
[08:57] <divBy0> zeon98: hey that file transfer errored out but can you confirm it went to your email? i sent another book 2015 linux hackers manual
[08:57] <divBy0> zeon98: well its sending right now night quite done with the second book
[09:02] <detly> I'm on 14.04.1, and I'm trying to diagnose why I can't authenticate via smbclient to a NAS (the smb server) — I can log in anonymously (eg. with smbclient -L 10.1.0.25 -UGuest and no password), but if I try with a user with a password (eg. smbclient -L 10.1.0.25 -Ujason) I get session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:02] <detly> but I'm kinda stuck here - I don't know what else to run for diagnostics, and I can't do much with the server
[09:03] <divBy0> "gmail says thunderbird is insecure"
[09:03] <divBy0> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFwQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.mozillazine.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D39%26t%3D2852231&ei=1pnMVI27AoHCgwTTwYPgBg&usg=AFQjCNGjXAsaKxJt7vVzzz6WM7GJWlcemg&bvm=bv.85076809,d.eXY
[09:04] <Ben64> divBy0: are you trying to use it with gmail
[09:04] <PCPinjecti0n> Fuchs: sent you a msg. it -v was very long
[09:05] <Fuchs> PCPinjecti0n: yeah, I'd prefer a pastebin next time, then other people can help, too. Anyway :p
[09:05] <divBy0> yes, and outlook and occasionally yahoo
[09:06] <Ben64> use a browser for gmail then
[09:06] <divBy0> why?
[09:08] <detly> divByz0: wait, are you using thunderbird with an exchange server too?
[09:11] <divByz0> detly: im not using anything but webmail right now. im trying to find a secure client on ubuntu for just daily school and work email. gmail, outlook (live.com), and office365.com
[09:14] <divByz0> leaning towards claws since thats what comes with tails...
[09:16] <ahmadspr> hello, i have strange behavior on dropdown list in any application. The application closed when I click on dropdown list to change it's value.
[09:17] <ahmadspr> like this: http://imgur.com/BLSvcg9
[09:17] <root_debian> french ?
[09:19] <ahmadspr> anyone please help?
[09:25] <detly> ahmadspr: maybe look in ~/.xsession-errors ? (reproduce the bug, open a terminal and do "tail ~/.xsession-errors" and look for anything error-like)
[09:25] <detly> ahmadspr: are you using a non-default theme? (doesn't look like it, but you might be)
[09:29] <ahmadspr> detly: from .xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/LqFBi3wW
[09:30] <detly> hmm, doesn't look too helpful
[09:30] <detly> what about your video card/drivers?
[09:31] <ahmadspr> detly: its default theme, it happened after apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:31] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell why does ubuntu 14.10 start like this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntuprob-Lq4nQUId.png i have to manually change background image to fix it...
[09:31] <ovrflw0x> what kind of resolution problem is it
[09:33] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell why does ubuntu 14.10 start like this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntuprob-Lq4nQUId.png i have to manually change background image to fix it...
[09:33] <ovrflw0x> what kind of resolution problem is it
[09:33] <detly> ahmadspr: sorry, I have to go make dinner. I can't think of anything else though :/
[09:36] <keigen> freenode
[09:36] <keigen> sore all
[09:36] <keigen> numpang nanya dong
[09:37] <ahmadspr> detly: thanks anyway
[09:38] <ahmadspr> keigen: nanya apaan bro?
[09:38] <pilikeits> Hello all :) Im asking if there is easy way to see (timestamp) time when my linux will lose ip-address = wan connection ends. I think i could make that kind of script with bash, but if i can see it already somewhow it would be super! :)
[09:39] <keigen> ane gan bikin partisi "/" sama "/home" .... ane install ubuntu di partisi "/" nah kalo ane instal ulang partisi "/" di format itu data yg di "/home" ilang ga ?
[09:40] <bazhang> !id
[09:40] <bazhang> keigen, ^
[09:40] <keigen> ilang pasti ya ?
[09:41] <bazhang> english here keigen
[09:41] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell why does ubuntu 14.10 start like this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntuprob-Lq4nQUId.png i have to manually change background image to fix it... what kind of resolution problem is it
[09:42] <keigen> ow sorry
[09:47] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell why does ubuntu 14.10 start like this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntuprob-Lq4nQUId.png i have to manually change background image to fix it... what kind of resolution problem is it??
[09:49] <keigen> hey all
[09:50] <ovrflw0x> hey keigen zup bud
[09:51] <keigen> i have 2 partition in my ubuntu ,, it's "/" and "/home" ,, i install my ubuntu in partition "/" .. if i format partition "/" what will happen with my "/home" partition ?
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> keigen, it should say as it is keigen
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> i guess
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> keigen, it should stay as it is keigen
[09:53] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell why does ubuntu 14.10 start like this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntuprob-Lq4nQUId.png i have to manually change background image to fix it... what kind of resolution problem is it??
[09:53] <keigen> are u sure ?
[09:53] <ovrflw0x> keigen, i dunno man i juz guess dawg
[09:54] <keigen> i think it will delete too because partition "/" it's the top partition on linux ?
[09:55] <ovrflw0x> keigen, if root (/) is no /dev/sda1 and (/home) is on /dev/sda2 then if you format /dev/sda1 then home will stay as it is
[09:56] <keigen> oh
[09:57] <keigen> tq ovrflwox
[09:57] <keigen> it"s so helpful
[09:57] <keigen> cause i'm newbie for this os hehe
[09:57] <ovrflw0x> ya hehe
[09:58] <ovrflw0x> keigen, where you from?
[09:58] <keigen> indonesia
[09:58] <keigen> you  now ?
[09:58] <ovrflw0x> keigen, thailand?
[09:58] <keigen> not thailand
[09:58] <keigen> indonesia it's a country
[09:59] <ovrflw0x> ok gud
[09:59] <ovrflw0x> bye keg
[09:59] <keigen> and you ?
[09:59] <ovrflw0x> bye keigen
[09:59] <keigen> oke
[10:06] <Codmadnesspro> Is there something I can run to keep ubuntu up to date everyday?
[10:06] <Codmadnesspro> Say it sends sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade every day
[10:07] <flux242> 'it' sends? what's 'it'?
[10:08] <flux242> ah, it is what you wan't, i see. don't worry update check cron jobs are preinstalled
[10:09] <flux242> just run it everyday
[10:10] <Adele23>  Watch Me Suck Real Big Dick On My Site http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[10:10] <Codmadnesspro> lol....
[10:10] <flux242> is that ubuntu channel?
[10:20] <nessessary129>  can anyone suggest an IRC client that supports SASL in the lucid version??
[10:21] <nessessary129> ??
[10:25] <Darknet> nessessary129, in my timezone its 5:25am, hang tight, someone might be here to help you out
[10:25] <Darknet> if not come back a little later
[10:25] <Darknet> "[
[10:25] <Darknet> :p *
[10:26] <pilikeits> hmm i will try to use process id to track down the timestamp of connection.
[10:26] <pilikeits> maybe i can get it work with that :)
[10:38] <jozefk> anybody know if lastpass can work with Midori browser?
[10:39] <brahmana> Hi all
[10:39] <brahmana> I had a Ubuntu trust server on AWS (t2.micro instance). Today morning I found that it is not responding to n/w. I am unable to SSH at all.
[10:39] <brahmana> Stopping the instance and restarting it doesn't help
[10:40] <brahmana> Now I stopped it altogether and attached the root volume of that to another server
[10:40] <brahmana> In syslog I am seeing out of memory errors, several of them
[10:40] <svetlana> jozefk: not to my knowledge - ask the lastpass folks to write such support
[10:41] <brahmana> Now is there any other log file or place where I can find what process consumed so much memory that it caused this out of memory problem?
[10:41] <aaler> hello
[10:41] <brahmana> Also why was I not able to connect to this even after rebooting? Rebooting should have solved the OOO problem right?
[10:41] <jozefk> svetlana, jel ima neka zamena za to ili sta da koristim umesto lastpass?
[10:41] <svetlana> brahmana: would post these errors to pastebin
[10:42] <brahmana> svetlana: What errors do you want to see?
[10:42] <svetlana> jozefk: probably alternatives of lastpass for midori exist, but I do not know them.
[10:42] <svetlana> jozefk: there is #midori :)
[10:42] <aaler> i just installed ubuntu 14.04 , seems unstable , after i will update can work etter ?
[10:42] <svetlana> brahmana: everything you have
[10:43] <svetlana> aaler: 14.04 is a stable release. make sure you upgrade. if you still face issues, describe them - without knowing them there is no way they may be fixed in 14.10.
[10:43] <brahmana> svetlana: I don't understand. I do not know what the problem was. That is what I am trying to diagnose. I do not know where all to look.
[10:44] <aaler> alright
[10:44] <svetlana> brahmana: showing the logs you have should be a good start.
[10:44] <brahmana> svetlana: Which log do you want? syslog kern.log dmesg ?
[10:45] <svetlana> all of them. and please talk to the channel not just me; I'm about to reboot a few times, so while I may ask for more details, I'm unlikely to be the one who would analyze them.
[11:17] <Exagone313> hello, i'm trying to install mongodb on ubuntu server 14.04 using http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/ but when i try to add the gpg key (first command), it is ignored
[11:21] <Exagone313> finally, i use the official repo
[11:30] <Changiz> hi, i'm using xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[11:30] <Changiz> i suddenly hit ctrl+alt+f2 key (instead of alt+f2 to do something else), then a CLI poped out... i do login with my user, and to get back the GUI, used the comman "startx"
[11:30] <Changiz> but now i think the graphics and theme has changed, no animations my "Dockey" app has, and i think my animation also disabled! and windows' top bar changed to bluew (while it was silver before this problem)
[11:30] <Changiz> can anyone help me to get back my previous display graphics (i have no low resolution problem btw)
[11:31] <jatt> run startxfce4 instead of startx
[11:32] <Changiz> thanks! can you tell me the differences?! is startxfce4 another version of startx ?
[11:33] <jatt> no, they come from different packages startx from xinit and startxfce4 from xfce4-session
[11:34] <Changiz> ow... really really thanks ;) i go to test it and hope it works... bye ;)
[11:35] <detly> Changiz: you switched to a virtual tty by mistake
[11:35] <detly> just hit ctrl+alt+f8 to get back
[11:35] <detly> if you run startx or somesuch... that might not be good
[11:36] <Changiz> no i tried them... and logged out from all of ttys to make sure not in wrong tty... i think startxfce4 would work instead of startx
[11:37] <jatt> crtl+alt+f7 should return to your X session
[11:37] <detly> ah, yes, f7 not f8
[11:38] <ubuntu946> how does this show list of channels
[11:38] <Changiz> yeah i tried it... but after issuing "startx" in tty2... but then i logged out and used ctrl+alt+f7 , but then i realized it didn't help
[11:38] <EriC^^> ubuntu946: /msg alis list *channel*
[11:39] <jatt> ctrl+alt+f2 and ctrl+alt+f7 should switch to your X session without issuing any startx* command
[11:39] <|Max|> Hello. I have problem with remote desktop control of my Ubuntu 14.10. I see my desktop but its freezing and i can move mouse only. I was trying use TeamViewer and standard VNC protocol but effect is the same. My Ubuntu is running on Toshiba sattelite L series 2 x 1,6 GHz and integrated Intel HD Card.
[11:39] <EriC^^> Changiz: don't use startx, use sudo service lightdm restart
[11:54] <mfoo> during a do-release-upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 (server) I dropped into a shell to make a backup of a config file that was going to be replaced. I hit control-c and then got a python uncaught interrupt. The screen session is no longer running. Can I resume the process? I assume there are other config files that have not been updated
[11:55] <mfoo> . /etc/lsb-release shows 14.04.1 LTS but I do not know what state the packages are in
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:58] <jatt> mfoo: what does
[11:58] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[11:58] <jatt> say?
[12:00] <mfoo> jatt, mostly "=", three "-", and three "+". Is this telling me there's still packages to be removed and added?
[12:01] <Giwrgaras> hi! can i delete windows on a dual boot pc and leave only ubuntu in it?
[12:01] <Giwrgaras> with the ubuntu installer?
[12:01] <jatt> mfoo: can you pastebin what you see?
[12:01] <Ben64> Giwrgaras: you can just delete the windows partition
[12:01] <EriC^^> Giwrgaras: yeah
[12:02] <jatt> mfoo: in any case it should be possible to resume the installation without problems
[12:02] <Giwrgaras> will this affect my ubuntu or its irrelevant? cause i dont want to have to install once again
[12:02] <EriC^^> no
[12:02] <Ben64> Giwrgaras: won't change ubuntu at all
[12:02] <mfoo> jatt, sorry, was being dumb. there's 141 lines of packages in "iU", a few in "it", "rc" and "iW" states
[12:02] <Ben64> Giwrgaras: make sure you choose the right partition though :) and make sure you're not running WUBI or something like that
[12:03] <Giwrgaras> and the starting dual boot purple screen will be lost? you know the starting screen that prompts you which os to choose
[12:03] <EriC^^> Giwrgaras: no
[12:03] <Ben64> Giwrgaras: that will still be there until you update grub
[12:03] <EriC^^> Giwrgaras: i mean yes
[12:03] <EriC^^> ^
[12:03] <jatt> mfoo: when you system is clean you have only "ii" so the command I told you shows no lines. can you try to resume the installation?
[12:03] <nessessary129> Giwrgaras:delete the partition in advanced mode and add a new one
[12:03] <jatt> mfoo: I mean the upgrade
[12:03] <mfoo> jatt, by re-running do-release-upgrade?
[12:03] <Giwrgaras> gr8 then
[12:04] <nessessary129> Giwrgaras:update the grub
[12:04] <Giwrgaras> nessessary129: i dont know what you mean :(
[12:04] <jatt> mfoo: yes
[12:04] <Giwrgaras> im a novice but ive changed my hd size from the live dvd once again in the past
[12:05] <mfoo> jatt, it tells me there's no new release found
[12:05] <jatt> mfoo: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:06] <Aleksa> hello guys! I've tried every tutorial or post that I've found on internet. I cannot change the color of scrollbar in terminal. I've managed to change it's color for all other programs (firefox, hexchat, etc.)
[12:06] <Aleksa> How to change the scrollbar's color in terminal?
[12:06] <mfoo> jatt, actually dpkg is still running and still has the lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock. Should I kill it and remove the lock file?
[12:07] <jatt> mfoo: yes that should be ok
[12:09] <mfoo> jatt, dpkg --configure -a seems to bring me back to where I left off, thanks :)
[12:09] <jatt> mfoo: great
[12:18] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there any way to make an opening application not pop to front/gaining focus automatically (stealing focus from another already opened app)?
[12:19] <EriC^^> Mrokii: start it minimized?
[12:20] <Mrokii> EriC^^: How would I do that automatically?
[12:20] <EriC^^> Mrokii: make a custom .desktop
[12:21] <azizLIGHT> does anyone use workrave (repititve strain injury)?
[12:21] <Mrokii> EriC^^: Hm, I'll need to investigate that further. Would be great if it would be possible. Thanks for the tip.
[12:21] <azizLIGHT> how can i see the applet in the panel
[12:21] <azizLIGHT> aka indicator
[12:21] <EriC^^> Mrokii: which program are you trying to start minimized? or all?
[12:22] <Mrokii> EriC^^: Yes, all.
[12:22] <EriC^^> Mrokii: the .desktop files are in /usr/share/applications , you'll need to modify the Exec= line , make a backup copy and test it
[12:22] <EriC^^> oh
[12:23] <EriC^^> Mrokii: maybe devilspie can help or compiz
[12:23] <Mrokii> EriC^^: I'll check these out too, thanks.
[12:23] <EriC^^> no problem
[12:24] <user-4koremon> vivid
[12:25] <Mrokii> EriC^^: I didn't think about the minimized state, but there's an answer on askubuntu that suggests devilspie, so this may be the way to go.
[12:27] <EriC^^> Mrokii: yeah it's pretty powerful
[12:27] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04 and im getting a message: "not all updates can be installed" run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. this can be caused by: * a previous upgrade which didn't complete * problems with some of the installed software * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu * normal changes of a pre-release version of ubuntu
[12:27] <azizLIGHT> buttons are: settings... / partial upgrade / continue
[12:28] <azizLIGHT> what is this about and how do i fix it?
[12:30] <Mrokii> azizLIGHT: I think it's caused by third party repositories usually, when certain dependencies can't be satisfied.
[12:30] <azizLIGHT> and where can i find such details and solve the issue?
[12:31] <azizLIGHT> ill just remove that repo
[12:31] <Mrokii> I guess you'd have to check which packages/apps can't be installed and check which repo they are from.
[12:31] <azizLIGHT> i dont get any warnings when i do sudo apt-get update and upgrade
[12:32] <azizLIGHT> so whats the issue... and where is it
[12:33] <Mrokii> Update-Manger should show you which items can and which can't be installed. After using "continue" I think it should show that list, but I'm not quite sure.
[12:34] <alexbligh1> how does one resize the size of the console *while running* (not with grub), now resizecons (formally resize) has disappeared?
[12:36] <alexbligh1> ah, bizarre, it's just missing from kbd in amd64 in 12.04. How odd.
[12:38] <Mrokii> azizLIGHT: I think "sudo apt-get update" only updates the list of packages found in the repos. I don't think it checks any dependencies of installed (or to be updated) packages.
[12:40] <no_bill_gatez> when booting 2 instances of cairo-dock open. is there a way I can stop one from opening?
[12:40] <EriC^> no_bill_gatez: why are you booting 2?
[12:41] <no_bill_gatez> 2 open up on boot up. I am not restarting it or starting an instance of it
[12:41] <EriC^> no_bill_gatez: open the dash > startup , check that only one is there
[12:42] <Mrokii> I've seen this effect in KDE. Not sure why it happens though. It never happened on regular Ubuntu/Unity to me.
[12:46] <no_bill_gatez> how do you open dash?
[12:47] <EriC^^> it's the first icon at the top in the launcher
[12:53] <Guest93878> hi
[12:53] <no_bill_gatez> got it thanks
[12:53] <Guest93878> hi
[12:56] <kanthalaraghu> anyone using backbox ?
[13:06] <c_nick> how to get chromium to work with Flash - I copied the libflashplayer.so in the /user/lib/chromium-browser/plugin directory but the plugin does not take effect i installed udo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and pepperflashplugin no relief i am on x64
[13:06] <azizLIGHT> how do i copy the crash report dialog box contents? ctrl-c doesnt work and you cannot resize the window to see anymore than what it is: http://i.imgur.com/gXld2wy.png
[13:06] <c_nick> i am on Ubuntu Unicorn
[13:06] <jatt> azizLIGHT: the crash report is in /var/crash/
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> c_nick  try pepperflash
[13:07] <c_nick> MonkeyDust, I installed pepperflashplayer it says Flash Player version installed on this system  : 16.0.0.296
[13:08] <Apachez> c_nick: unless you are really the GNU militant then grab the commercial google chrome who includes pepparflash
[13:08] <c_nick> but how can i get chromium to work without it .. it used to work when i was last on Ubuntu 10.10
[13:08] <cfhowlett> c_nick, there is no ubuntu unicorn.
[13:09] <azizLIGHT> thanks jatt
[13:09] <jatt> utopic unicorn
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> what version is unicorn?
[13:09] <jatt> 14.10
[13:09] <desktop> niggercorn
[13:10] <cfhowlett> doh!  right right right.  I was wrong.
[13:10] <Giwrgaras> hi .im on the live session and trying to expand my hd using gparted
[13:11] <Giwrgaras> how to do it?! ive deleted windows the space is unallocated but i cant expand the ext4 main partition of mine
[13:11] <IdleOne> Giwrgaras: First you need to format the unallocated space to ext4 and then you expand
[13:12] <Giwrgaras> basically by accident i created another main ext4 partition and the free space goes there instead of my main ext4 partition where i have my stuff
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Giwrgaras  and backup first, before you start modifying partitions
[13:12] <Giwrgaras> i want to change the main ext4 partition to go to my old ext4 partition and expand this one
[13:13] <Giwrgaras> if you understand what im saying
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Giwrgaras  you want to merge/combine two partitons?
[13:13] <c_nick> cfhowlett, lsb_release -a does not work anymore?
[13:14] <azizLIGHT> so any idea why upgradeing linux-headers package causes an issue for nvidia package? i get error: http://sprunge.us/HRfM
[13:14] <Giwrgaras> my old ext4 partition is inside another that i created by accident
[13:14] <Giwrgaras> so i cant extend my normal partition with all the free space from the deleted windows
[13:14] <cfhowlett> c_nick, ?  eh?
[13:15] <Giwrgaras> instead i can expand the newwly created empty ext4 partition in which i have no option to delete
[13:15] <c_nick> hehe i was doing - instead of _
[13:15] <Giwrgaras> it is my primary now i guess
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, so delete the partition you created by accident
[13:15] <c_nick> Ubuntu 14.10 Codename:utopic thats Unicorn!
[13:15] <c_nick> now how to get flash working with chromium
[13:15] <Giwrgaras> no opiton to do that its set as primary
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> Giwrgaras  backup your data, then delete and re-create partitions, is the easiest, i guess
[13:16] <BluesKaj> azizLIGHT, because yoiu're using xedgers ppa, not the best support for nvidia drivers unfortunately
[13:16] <Giwrgaras> yes but then i have to reinstall :/
[13:16] <Giwrgaras> i just want to swap positions primary/secondary ext4
[13:16] <jatt> c_nick: install chrome it has flash already included
[13:17] <c_nick> i hate this compromise #I-Love-Blue!
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Giwrgaras  not sure if that is possible, think not
[13:17] <Giwrgaras> god damn it
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> and no profanities
[13:18] <azizLIGHT> sudo add-apt-repository --remove
[13:18] <Giwrgaras> sooo what do i do now?  reinstall?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Giwrgaras  backup your data, then delete and re-create partitions, is the easiest, i guess
[13:18] <c_nick> i will install the stable one :(
[13:22] <Grant_P> Anyone know anything about dmraid and it's 2tb limitation?
[13:26] <Guest22917> Wy doesn't the ubuntu softwarecentre show when a piece of software was last updated. And details about the updates?
[13:27] <Finetundra> Guest22917, what do you mean?
[13:28] <Guest22917> Theres no date of when the software was last updated
[13:28] <Guest22917> in the ubuntu software centre
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Guest22917, such information is available on the program's support website --- which IS provided
[13:28] <Guest22917> not updated on my pc, but updated by the creator
[13:28] <Guest22917> its so unhandy to go search on some website of them
[13:29] <Guest22917> maybe im just too used to how android works with their play store
[13:29] <Guest22917> I do like my first ubuntu experience though
[13:29] <eraggo> Guest22917: there is change package is not upgraded by ubuntu/canonical to the repo
[13:29] <Guest22917> just some things i miss
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> Guest22917  in a terminal, type   apt-cache show [package] ... it shows the webpage ... find a changelog on that page
[13:30] <Guest22917> Does anyone know if theres software to throw in a tar.gz file or .deb file so it helps me install it without using the terminal? Like a dumb windows .exe user?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest22917  please calm down
[13:31] <Guest22917> I am calm. Im just dumb and like easy stuff
[13:31] <jatt> synaptic
[13:31] <jatt> for debs
[13:31] <Guest22917> thanks jatt ill try that
[13:32] <Guest22917> that seems very handy! just what i was looking for
[13:33] <Giwrgaras> great i did it, i didnt have to reinstall or anything
[13:33] <Giwrgaras> can i update grub now ? i can still see windows as an option
[13:33] <Giwrgaras> and i only have ubuntu
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> update-grub
[13:34] <goodluck> hi,guys ,when i use a terminal ,i cant press the character f,and it will send out a "pong" voice ,what s wrong
[13:35] <boodllebat> where is my php.ini located ?
[13:35] <Giwrgaras> great!!! thnks
[13:35] <jatt> locate php.ini
[13:36] <boodllebat> jatt: should i type this in terminal ?
[13:36] <jatt> yes
[13:37] <Finetundra> does anyone know how to change the splash screen?
[13:38] <boodllebat> jatt: thanks
[13:38] <jatt> Finetundra: install a different plymouth theme
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> Finetundra  set to default?
[13:39] <xar> Is there any good free VPN , please ? I wasn't able to find one?
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> xar  define "good"
[13:39] <Finetundra> jatt, how would I do that.
[13:39] <Finetundra> MonkeyDust, what?
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> Finetundra  this sets the screen to default:    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:40] <c_nick> chrome installed and we have flash in it.! thanks guys
[13:40] <xar> MonkeyDust, I need to use it once per month. I just need a free one which doesn't block after one month of use
[13:41] <Finetundra> MonkeyDust, ok, but what do i use that for?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> xar  is this useful http://techpp.com/2009/07/09/top-5-free-vpn-clients/
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> xar  i was too fast, never mind the link
[13:43] <xar> MonkeyDust, isn't better to find a password/username instead of the installation of a whole VPN solution?
[13:44] <bhavesh> What's the most popular way to collaboratively program on Linux? Like real time sharing of the file.
[13:44] <jatt> text files + version control (git)
[13:45] <bhavesh> jatt: but the other person does not see the changes live until it is uploaded again?
[13:45] <bhavesh> like Google Drive sharing?
[13:45] <jatt> yes but why do you want to see every letter the person is typing?
[13:45] <bhavesh> jatt: well, it would be a plus.
[13:46] <jatt> the best way to collaborate is through version control but maybe I'm just out-to-date :-)
[13:46] <bhavesh> jatt: okay, thanks.
[13:49] <anon85> hi
[13:50] <xar> MonkeyDust, thank you so much
[13:53] <herrkin> hello comunity
[13:54] <Caleb--> hi
[13:54] <herrkin> I have an urgent problem related to hp laptop\
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> xar-  yw
[13:55] <herrkin> it was hard at first to get ubuntu in it because it has some new booloader I dint see before uefi or something like that
[13:55] <herrkin> but I got it to work
[13:55] <herrkin> after some time it was ok
[13:55] <herrkin> I was using the machine and suddenly it crashed (froze) I turned it off and it never came back
[13:56] <herrkin> so I have the hard drive, put it in another computer, it starts windows fine but it wont start ubuntu
[13:56] <EriC^^> herrkin: you can get it working on the hp laptop
[13:56] <herrkin> anybody know what I have to do to get it back?
[13:56] <EriC^^> herrkin: you had to press f9 to get it to boot? or esc then boot options?
[13:57] <herrkin> yes I see the ubuntu entry but it still loads windows
[13:57] <EriC^^> herrkin: yes it's because the bios is hard wired to boot the windows efi file
[13:57] <EriC^^> herrkin: which hp model is it?
[13:57] <herrkin> when I pluged the hard drive to the new computer it made some recovery
[13:58] <herrkin> maybe it also deleted the boot part of ubuntu this new computer is.. wait a sec
[13:58] <EriC^^> herrkin: the boot part is in the bios not the hd i think
[13:59] <EriC^^> the efi partition is in the hd, but the entry is listed in the bios
[13:59] <herrkin> yes but I see it when I do f9
[13:59] <herrkin> still it boots windows when I hit it
[13:59] <herrkin> its an hp pavilion 14 sleekbook
[14:00] <EriC^^> on the new pc or the old one?
[14:00] <herrkin> new
[14:00] <EriC^^> ok did you install ubuntu again when you put it in the new one?
[14:01] <EriC^^> or did you reinstall grub
[14:01] <EriC^^> if not that's pretty normal
[14:01] <herrkin> no I just tried to boot it with the hard drive of the other computer as it was\
[14:01] <hexafraction> Hi, is there a way I can make a pty that will not perform any buffering?
[14:01] <EriC^^> herrkin: ok boot a live usb
[14:01] <captainfantastic> what's kernel version of ubuntu alpha 2?
[14:01] <hexafraction> (as in, any attempt to write will block until the other side reads it).
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> captainfantastic  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:02] <herrkin> then what EriC^^ ?
[14:02] <EriC^^> herrkin: type sudo parted -l && sudo efibootmgr -v
[14:02] <EriC^^> and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[14:03] <herrkin> right now I dont have a usb stick
[14:03] <EriC^^> ok press F9 in the pc
[14:03] <herrkin> and this new machine doesnt have dvd unit
[14:03] <EriC^^> when it boots, then select From EFI file instead of Ubuntu
[14:03] <herrkin> then?
[14:03] <herrkin> ok
[14:03] <herrkin> ok
[14:03] <EriC^^> then look for EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[14:03] <EriC^^> and boot that
[14:04] <EriC^^> it might work unless grub is screwed, then you might be able to manually boot using grub
[14:04] <herrkin> ok I am from that computer, so please give me step by step because I will not be able to ask you something if I need something
[14:04] <EriC^^> i just did
[14:04] <herrkin> ok good
[14:05] <EriC^^> about booting manually from grub try to see if it will work from the file first
[14:05] <EriC^^> if you get a grub> prompt then come back here
[14:05] <ghimiretika> facebook
[14:05] <herrkin> ok I will try
[14:07] <Finetundra> anyone know a good audio extractor?
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Finetundra  cd ripper?
[14:09] <Finetundra> MonkeyDust, no, something to pull audio from videos
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Finetundra  youtube videos?
[14:10] <Finetundra> MonkeyDust, videos on my computer
[14:10] <herrkin_> EriC^^, thanks a lot I got it now I am from ubuntu
[14:16] <pagios> what runs before rc.local or conrtab @reboot
[14:16] <pagios> ?
[14:16] <ikonia> or crontab ?
[14:16] <ikonia> pagios: whats the actual problem ?
[14:18] <pagios> ikonia i have a wpa_supplicant command that needs to connect to a network, ONLY after that connects to a network i want to fire up a command, an exception to fire that command is also when the network is unreachable
[14:19] <ikonia> wpa_supplicat shouldn't be needed after you've connected to a network
[14:19] <ikonia> so I'm not really understanding what/why you 're trying to do it
[14:19] <pagios> ikonia: the wpa_supplicant is the one allowing me to connect to a network
[14:19] <ikonia> pagios: are you using network manage r?
[14:19] <ikonia> manager
[14:19] <pagios> /sbin/wpa_supplicant -iwificlient0 -Dnl80211 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:19] <pagios> no
[14:19] <pagios> so i am running this command at @reboot cron
[14:19] <ikonia> would it not make sense to use network manager
[14:20] <pagios> no its not appropriate
[14:20] <ikonia> in what way is it not ?
[14:20] <ikonia> it was designed to manage networks including wireless
[14:20] <ikonia> and has triggers for things like network drop
[14:21] <pagios> idea is i am creating VIF interfaces and assigning dynamic/static ips via /etc/network/interfaces, network-manager was conflicting with that
[14:21] <pagios> ikonia: ^
[14:21] <suore> Hey guys i've send phisical hdd, what FS for him is the best?  - simlar to NTFS (to create and remove diirs and files in main folder)
[14:21] <hexafraction> suore
[14:21] <ikonia> pagios: network manage can manage that
[14:21] <ikonia> so rather than conflicting, use it to manage it
[14:21] <ikonia> suore: depends on what Os he's using
[14:21] <hexafraction> for an internal ubuntu only disk use ext4
[14:22] <pagios> ikonia: can it run headless?
[14:22] <ikonia> pagios: yes
[14:22] <MACscr> any time i ssh into my ubuntu trusty desktop, im getting the following in my syslog: console-kit-daemon[5463]: GLib-CRITICAL: Source ID 155 was not found when attempting to remove it
[14:22] <MACscr> any ideas why?
[14:22] <hexafraction> for sharing with other OSs, ntfs is usually a decent choice
[14:22] <pagios> ikonia: can i pm you instead of flooding here?
[14:22] <ikonia> pagios: pm me what ?
[14:22] <ikonia> use a pastebin if you have big output
[14:23] <ikonia> NTFS is not a decent choice
[14:23] <pagios> the access point is changing channels as it is autotuned, so i need hostapd to read the channel that interface is using and use the same channel
[14:23] <suore> i've ubuntu, i have / ext4 and /home ext4 and newone hdd is for /media/Name/Data Storage #1 i want to menage here files line in ntfs at win  :P.
[14:23] <pagios> thats the goal
[14:24] <pagios> so i need to run hostapd after i get the channel using iwlist or something and then call the hotapd deamon
[14:24] <ikonia> pagios: I have no idea how to approach that, I'd have to look at that with real thought, but off the top of my head the network manager trigger or a dropped network could work
[14:24] <ikonia> suore: whats the actual problem ?
[14:25] <suore> at ext4 cannot create files and dir... i need to make 1st folder by superuser
[14:25] <ikonia> suore: ext4 can mange files and directories just fine
[14:25] <suore> and add chmod 777 and now ican create files
[14:25] <MACscr> pagios: have you had decent reliability with hostapd? I just recently made my ubuntu box an AP and its been pretty unreliable, though it almost more seems that the issue is related to DHCP from my router not always getting to the devices in order to complete the connection
[14:28] <Quinnlan> How can I configure dual monitor with my GeForce GTX 750 (Nvidia driver 340.76), Ubuntu 14.10. It's displaying fine on the VGA out but I can't detect anything on the dvi out. Any help appreciated
[14:31] <dufferzafar> I've converted my capslock key to backspace using setxkbmap, now i want to set Ctrl + Capslock to Ctrl + Backspace, but can't figure out how...
[14:46] <EriC^> herrkin_: you there sory i was away
[14:46] <EriC^> herrkin_: after you have ubuntu booted you can do something to let it boot grub every time
[14:50] <herrkin_> what?
[14:53] <herrkin_> I mean do what?\
[14:53] <EriC^> herrkin_: you want to leave the hd on this pc?
[14:54] <herrkin_> no it is just while the other laptop is repaired
[14:55] <EriC^> oh ok
[14:55] <EriC^> nevermind then
[14:55] <EriC^> ( you can do something so that it boots grub without pressing f9 or esc ) anyways nevermind
[14:56] <cromagi> Does anyone know how I can make a bootable windows usb?
[14:57] <cromagi> Unetbooting wont work
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> cromagi  i'm sure the people in ##windows know how windows works
[14:58] <BluesKaj> cromagi, dd the windows image to the usb
[14:58] <mchelen> anyone know which music manager can automatically transcode music when copying to an mp3 player?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> !dd | cromagi
[14:59] <BluesKaj> hmm , no bot info
[15:00] <cromagi> how to dd?
[15:02] <cromagi> ?
[15:02] <cromagi> How do i dd BluesKaj?
[15:03] <lantizia> Can anyone explain (RE: xorg ) what occurs when you 'switch users'?
[15:04] <cromagi> Oh come onnn
[15:05] <jhwhite> If I install Ubuntu on my entire SSD on my rMBP, won't that write over the recovery partition? And if so how do I reinstall OS X later?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !mac | jhwhite, yes it would.  and if you want OSX, DO NOT use the entire SSD.  I don't know how difficult a Linux >>> OSX install would be, but knowing how unfriendly OSX is, I'd consider carefully.
[15:07] <cromagi> your wasting your time
[15:08] <cromagi> how to i write to usb with dd
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: what is the name of the USB device?
[15:08] <jhwhite> Well, something happened last night and OS X won't recognize the partition that has the OS installed. It will only boot into recovery mode, so I was going to install LInux then hopefully write over that with Yosemite later.
[15:08] <cfhowlett> cromagi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal
[15:09] <cfhowlett> jhwhite, I'd say NO.  Fix OSX first.  Then do your ubuntu.
[15:09] <jhwhite> OK thanks
[15:10] <BluesKaj> cromagi, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/dd.htm
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: then run: sudo dd if=~/something.iso of=/dev/sdz bs=1024
[15:10] <cfhowlett> cromagi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ok  stuff to do BBl
[15:11] <linuxthefish> hi, is ubuntu good on 4k displays?
[15:11] <linuxthefish> everything is so small!
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: obviously change /dev/sdz to your USB device and change the input filename
[15:11] <TJ-> linuxthefish: Isn't that the point of 4K!?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: make things bigger then...
[15:12] <linuxthefish> firefox still small :(
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: I thought the same
[15:12] <linuxthefish> like windows has DPI scaling
[15:12] <cromagi> its confusing me
[15:12] <cromagi> so f it
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: you can make things like icons and screen  fonts be larger
[15:12] <_raven_> hi
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: really? It's simple if you actually read the command
[15:13] <TJ-> linuxthefish: You'll need to change the Dots Per Inch (DPI) setting to match the display to have windows rendered to the same physical dimesions - but then, you've just wasted all those extra pixels
[15:13] <cromagi> its telling me to put it all in different partitions and everything
[15:13] <Malsasa> Hello. I want t hide my IP via VPN. But my OpenVPN can not hide my IP if I use ppp0. My complete question was in http://askubuntu.com/questions/580014/how-to-bind-openvpn-to-ppp0-from-mobile-broadband. Thank you.
[15:13] <xangua> linuxthefish: what ubuntu release are you using? Latest has a little better support for hdpi displays
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: you don't do that with the USB.  It goes at the start of the USB...
[15:14] <_raven_> is rc.local batch or all commands at the same time? id like to add a "apt-get update && apat-get upgrade && apt-get autoremove" into. should run after another ;)
[15:14] <cromagi> so what do i do then
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: or use Unetbootin
[15:14] <cromagi> i did that last night but i got an error when booting from usb
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: I asked you a question....  You never replied
[15:14] <cromagi> what?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:15] <cromagi> no idk how
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | cromagi, READ
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: then how do you know that the file is complete and consistent?
[15:15] <jatt> _raven_: do that in a cronjob and not with rc.local
[15:16] <_raven_> jatt: what would that look like in cron? with && or time offset with start+xminutes?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> _raven_  what jatt  says: add   @reboot in a conjob
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> _raven_  start with sudo crontab -e and read the basic instructions
[15:17] <cromagi> because i tried two different iso last night with unetbootin and i got the same error
[15:17] <_raven_> MonkeyDust: will that be batch using && or do i need to do something like @reboot+x minutes?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: statistically you could download an infinite number of files and never get a good one.  Get it checked
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> _raven_  the instructions tell you just that
[15:18] <jatt> _raven_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[15:18] <cromagi> 60062de2415d7b24b053005f14ccedd9  X17-58997.iso
[15:18] <cfhowlett> cromagi, 1. ALWAYS verify your downloaded .iso    2. ALWAYS verify the USB you made from the .iso        Takes only a few minutes
[15:18] <cromagi> theres my output of md5sum
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> _raven_: if you make a bash script you can cron that
[15:19] <k1l_> cromagi: what is that iso of?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> cromagi, so NO you go to the download page and compare it against the hashsum given.  DON'T put it here.  (and please don't be lazy)
[15:19] <_raven_> ok ill try to find that
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: that's a Windows ISO?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> k1l_: seems to be some windows thing
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  he wants to make a windows iso bootbale
[15:20] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:20] <cfhowlett> cromagi, wait, windows?!  ignore my advice.
[15:20] <k1l_> well, is is stubborn and doesnt read the answers anyway. so gl with that
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: you need to format the drive to NTFS then unetbootin should work
[15:20] <cromagi> ok ill try
[15:21] <cromagi> is the md5 good?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: you may want to ask in ##windows to see if anyone knows of a method
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: no idea,  ##windows will know
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> cromagi  type /j ##windows and ask there
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: check the Microsoft site, they should have the hashes
[15:23] <cromagi> i converted it to ntfs and unetbootin wond read it
[15:23] <cromagi> this is so gay
[15:23] <cromagi> on windows this would be so easy
[15:23] <cromagi> but no, this is ubuntu
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: wow...  It's 2015 dude
[15:24] <cfhowlett> cromagi, I told you repeatedly "use windows tools to make windows media".  And drop the anti-gay commentary
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: using  'gay'  as a term for  'bad' ...  Are you 12?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: grow up
[15:24] <cromagi> shut up
[15:24] <cromagi> goodbye
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> cromagi: fine by me.
[15:25] <prottasa> Hi
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Hi prottasa
[15:25] <prottasa> hello
[15:26] <imut> hello
[15:26] <prottasa> do you know about lowlatency linux karnel
[15:26] <cfhowlett> prottasa, a bit.
[15:26] <prottasa> pls tell me
[15:26] <cfhowlett> prottasa, are you editing music???
[15:27] <prottasa> yes
[15:27] <cfhowlett> prottasa, detailed explanation can be found at #opensourcemusicians
[15:28] <Quinnlan> How can I configure dual monitor with my GeForce GTX 750 (Nvidia driver 340.76), Ubuntu 14.10. It's displaying fine on the VGA out but I can't detect anything on the dvi out. Any help appreciated
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Quinnlan, dvi to hdmi ?
[15:30] <TJ-> Quinnlan: Are you sing the Nouveau or Nvidia drivers?
[15:30] <jhutchins> Quinnlan: I believe nvidia supplies docs on how to use/configure their driver.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Quinnlan, you may have to set the graphics card as default in the bios
[15:30] <Quinnlan> Nvidia drivers
[15:30] <Jamira40> Hello is there way to change grub-install -V to -v
[15:31] <Quinnlan> dvi to VGA
[15:31] <Quinnlan> the graphics card seems to work fine on VGA out, just when I open up nvidia-settings it only detects the one screen
[15:31] <TJ-> Quinnlan: what does "xrandr -q" report?
[15:32] <Quinnlan> As I understand it, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=nvidia-settings.png should show both but only shows one.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Quinnlan: does the system have a make and model
[15:32] <TJ-> Quinnlan: I don't think the DVI output on the GPU card carries analogue signal, only digital
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Jamira40: do you mean make  -v and -V do the same?
[15:33] <Quinnlan> TJ- http://pastebin.com/T7Y72Qt1
[15:33] <Jamira40> ActionParsnip Yes
[15:34] <Jamira40> Before you ask me why. vmWare Converter do not support Ubuntu 14.04 and only problem is because its trying to execute -v but on 14.04 works only -V
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Jamira40: the guys in #bash may be able to advise an alias-like function for it.
[15:34] <Jamira40> i tried to write alias function but i dont know how :-/
[15:34] <TJ-> Quinnlan: That output confirms there's only one analogue output - the "VGA-0" - the others are digital
[15:34] <Jamira40> how to specify -v
[15:34] <Jamira40> i know how to make alias like mynewfunction but without -v
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Jamira40: again. Ask in #bash
[15:35] <Jamira40> Thank you
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Quinnlan: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:35] <Quinnlan> TJ-: so what do I need to do to get a second screen working? I had hoped a DVI to VGA adapter would be enough
[15:36] <TJ-> Quinnlan: You need to use a digital input on the monitor. If it doesn't have one, you'll need to replace the monitor
[15:36] <TJ-> Quinnlan: From the Nvidia specs. page: "One Dual Link DVI-I, One Dual Link DVI-D, One mini-HDMI "   http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750/specifications
[15:37] <Quinnlan> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/C7i1rdkh
[15:38] <Quinnlan> so if I got a DVI cable instead of using a VGA cable and adapter it would probably work ?
[15:38] <TJ-> Quinnlan: If the monitor has a digital input, yes
[15:39] <Quinnlan> yeah theres a DVI in as well as a VGA in
[15:39] <Quinnlan> Thanks TJ-, I'll pick up a cable off ebay
[15:39] <TJ-> Quinnlan: So you just need a DVI-D dual-link cable
[15:40] <Quinnlan> Ah yes, I forgot about the different flavours of DVI cables
[15:40] <BluesKaj> odd most monitors come with dvi or hdmi cables nowadays
[15:41] <Quinnlan> it's an old monitor that was used with the box downstairs which had to be replaced, so i was trying to make use of it in my study :)
[15:42] <opal> Hi everybody: If I am surfing with my system on a public wifi. How can I maximum secure my connections and my system?
[15:43] <Quinnlan> TJ-, one last question, does it matter if its single or dual link ?
[15:43] <daltonfury> Use vpn?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> opal: use an SSH tunnel to another system
[15:43] <cfhowlett> opal, boot an ubuntu usb not your installed system.  stay off flakey sites.  don't sign in to anything or pass through personal info ... but I'm paranod
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> opal  be careful with passwords, they can be easily hacked on a public wifi
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> opal: configure your firewall too
[15:44] <opal> MonkeyDust: Also if I use a HTTPS-connection?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> opal: if it's https then you are ok
[15:45] <TJ-> Quinnlan: Yes... it determines bandwidth
[15:45] <daltonfury> ActionParsnip, what would the other system be?
[15:45] <opal> ActionParsnip: Are the standard Ubuntu settings not ok? Thought there aren't open ports?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> daltonfury: somewhere else. I have an SSH server I use at work because the proxy is managed by idiots
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> opal: the default is allow all traffic
[15:46] <Quinnlan> Coool, thanks for the help TJ- , ActionParsnip
[15:46] <Jamira40> ActionParsnip thank you they gave me an solution :-)
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> !Away > zz_saschpe
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Jamira40: sweet :-)
[15:46] <opal> ActionParsnip: Well, I don't see a security problem. Could you tell me some?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> opal: look into iptables or gufw
[15:47] <opal> ActionParsnip: But if I don't have open ports. Is there also a security problem?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> opal: you do. You have many
[15:49] <opal> ActionParsnip: Mh, what could an attacker do?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> opal: what is the output of : netstat -ltnp | wc -l
[15:49] <OerHeks> "what could an attacker do not?"
[15:51] <OerHeks> opal, use your browser in private mode, don't check email nor buy stuff, you'll be fine
[15:51] <cfhowlett> opal, think about it this way: you're on a public network and every communication is broadcast in the clear and your entire online session is transparent ...
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> opal  don't use passwords on when you're on a public wifi
[15:51] <OerHeks> too late to setup your email with 2 factor auth.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: not with https
[15:52] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, :)
[15:52] <opal> Of course I only use HTTPS-connection on public wifi
[15:54] <daltonfury> ActionParsnip, so i need to run a firewall? Or ubuntu has some inbuilt protection?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !ufw
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !firewall | daltonfury
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> daltonfury: on home Ltd it's not really needed. Out and about you should configure your firewall to block incoming connections
[15:56] <daltonfury> Ubottu, sorry for asking again, i had a connection loss....
[15:56] <backbox> hi
[15:57] <opal> ActionParsnip: But if I don't have an open port the incoming connections are not important. Or do I have a wrong thinking?
[15:57] <backbox> You have wrong thinking buddy :P
[15:57] <daltonfury> Ubottu, wtf?
[15:57] <Earlo> !ufw
[15:57] <Earlo> daltonfury, ^
[15:58] <daltonfury> Just started using irc, hope the same happened to u guys too at first...
[15:58] <opal> backbox: OK, it's an interesting topic. Could you tell me some attacks?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> opal, this is getting off-topic, but I bet ##linux would have a wider range of answers
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> opal  there are plenty sites, warning for and informing about the dangers of public wifi
[16:05] <daltonfury> Someone could do a MITM on you, even if u have closed all unnecessary ports
[16:07] <opal> daltonfury: How would this work?
[16:07] <Zerock> Is there a way to apt-get download a package and all its dependencies for a given architecture?
[16:08] <daltonfury> Opal, Maybe thats off topic?
[16:08] <Seth-666> hello , can somebody tell me, can i make my system linux mint cinnmone , repair all the erros that i have in logs ? some say that is impossible
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> Seth-666  ask in the mant channel
[16:09] <xangua> !mint | Seth-666
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> mint
[16:10] <daltonfury> Zerock, you mean download only? And not install? I am a noob, but forced to work on different architectures...
[16:11] <Seth-666> no i don t want suport just a simple question
[16:11] <Seth-666> of linux
[16:11] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell why does ubuntu 14.10 start like this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntuprob-Lq4nQUId.png i have to manually change background image to fix it... what kind of resolution problem is it??
[16:11] <Seth-666> is it possible?
[16:11] <Seth-666> for what did i asked
[16:11] <Zerock> daltonfury: Yes. Just download. I know how to do that, but I don't know how to make it gets the deps as well without just following the tree.
[16:11] <Seth-666> ?
[16:12] <daltonfury> Zerock, i dont know if i am correct, but you need to compile whatever u want using a cross platform compiler?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> Seth-666  this is a dedicated ubuntu channel, please ask in a mint channel, there's no reason for you to come here, with that question
[16:13] <daltonfury> Zerock, how about bitbake?
[16:13] <Seth-666> u are right ... but its a general question ....
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> Seth-666  ask your "general question" in a mint channel, as that is your distro
[16:14] <Seth-666> :| ok sorry
[16:14] <ActionParsnip>  ovrflw0x if you restart nautilus,  is it ok
[16:14] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip, how to do that?
[16:14] <daltonfury> Zerock, what architecture are u talking about?
[16:14] <Zerock> Arbitrary. I want to be able to do this for any system.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: press Alt + F2 and run: nautilus  -q
[16:15] <daltonfury> Zerock, checkout bitbake...?
[16:16] <Zerock> Not in the repos. Meh.
[16:16] <daltonfury> Nah, its part of a build system
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Zerock: if you have a system which has the package installed you can tell apt-get to pull down  All debs and you can then move them to the offline system
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Zerock: is that what you mean?
[16:17] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip, doing 'nautilus -q' **fixed** the problem but will i have to do this every time i boot into ubuntu?
[16:17] <daltonfury> ActionParsnip, but it is different architecture,.
[16:18] <daltonfury> Zerock, google yocto project
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: yes, but you can add the command to the startup of the desktop
[16:18] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip, why do i need to run this command everytime?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> daltonfury: could use a live CD of the other arch
[16:19] <ovrflw0x> is it a bug?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: possibly. Nautilus draws the wallpaper in a default Ubuntu install
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: you have a very simple workaround though
[16:20] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip, but running that command messes up display config
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: I see. Not sure then. Could report a bug
[16:21] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip, fonts in Files browser also look thin before running command you gave
[16:21] <Xenos1> Does Ubuntu detect things like PSP's?
[16:21] <daltonfury> ActionParsnip, what do you mean? The other system could be a embedded system... Like Raspberry or Pandaboard
[16:22] <Xenos1> I tried to plug in a PSP, it's not getting auto mounted does Ubuntu have trouble connecting with devices like PSP's?
[16:22] <recursion-ninja> hey people I have an anoying problem with Ubuntu and I'm at my breaking point. Sometimes I get windos created that are too large for my tiny screen and I can't see the bottom of the window nor can I resize them. The bottom of the window is usually where important buttons like "Okay" or "Save" are. How do I see the bottom of these windows? gnome3 desktop environment, 1024X600 resolution...
[16:22] <Xenos1> recursion-ninja, did you try system settings?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> daltonfury: if it's that small why not move it where it can get a wired connection?
[16:23] <recursion-ninja> Xenos1: What system settings?
[16:23] <Xenos1> system settings > displays
[16:23] <ovrflw0x> ActionParsnip, how to run nautilus -q command at startup?
[16:23] <Xenos1> it's the crank with the wrench on the left hand side
[16:23] <recursion-ninja> Xenos1: I can't increase the resolution
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> recursion-ninja: hold Alt and you can drag the window from any point in the window
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: there is a startup application in Dash.....
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> ovrflw0x: you could have used the Web to find out for yourself
[16:24] <recursion-ninja> ActionParsnip: That might be what I needed thank you, I was going crazy
[16:24] <HaaPut> hey there used to be a channel called defocus.. does it still exist
[16:24] <zamba> udev is not used anymore in 14.04?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> zamba: udev is in 14.04
[16:25] <daltonfury> ActionParsnip, but will the deb you transfer work on the given architecture?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> daltonfury: as long as the arch matches then yes
[16:28] <williamrocker> hey
[16:28] <williamrocker> anybody here?
[16:28] <williamrocker> hey
[16:28] <williamrocker> hello?
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !ask | williamrocker
[16:28] <Martiini> me
[16:28] <williamrocker> Martiini can u help me?
[16:29] <Martiini> with what
[16:29] <jrtappers> SSH searches the search domains, but is there a way to make it use those domains for DNS key checking?
[16:29] <Martiini> I'm only testing weechat irc program
[16:29] <cfhowlett> !test | Martiini
[16:30] <williamrocker> well i've made mods to my laptop. i've installed a 240Gb kingston ssd and installed win8 in it and i want to install ubuntu. make a dual boot. Can someone help me?
[16:30] <Martiini> ha ha .. funny
[16:30] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Sure
[16:30] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | williamrocker
[16:31] <williamrocker> that won't help me. i have a x64 win8 with intel i7
[16:31] <williamrocker> I've already tried a tutorial of dualboot
[16:31] <williamrocker> can someone please help me?
[16:31] <jrtappers> williamrocker, What's your current state?
[16:31] <williamrocker> What do u mean?
[16:31] <Martiini> williamrocker, yes, those links he posted, those should describe .. Basically, you squeeze windows partition into half of it's size and install linux on the rest of your harddrive
[16:31] <williamrocker> my current state is alive xD
[16:31] <jrtappers> What have you already done :P
[16:32] <williamrocker> yeah right. I've left 40gb for ubuntu and divided the remaining 40gb: 15GB for root, 4gb for swap, 20gb for home and 500mb for boot. but when i try to boot my laptop it goes straight to win8
[16:33] <jrtappers> williamrocker, 1 moment, its the quick boot problem
[16:33] <williamrocker> sorry quick boot problem?
[16:33] <williamrocker> can u elaborate?
[16:34] <jrtappers> williamrocker, I'm just getting the link
[16:34] <williamrocker> oh ok
[16:34] <Martiini> williamrocker, use ubuntu install cd, it should have gparted program for creating partitions. Make only ONE linux partition and 1 small swap partition, trust me, make it simple
[16:34] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Boot windows a moment
[16:34] <williamrocker> boot to windows?
[16:35] <jrtappers> Martiini, It sounds like they hybrid boot problem , do you agree?
[16:35] <Martiini> windows :)
[16:35] <bekks> "the hybrid boot problem"? :)
[16:35] <Martiini> windows, osx linux .. la la la
[16:35] <Martiini> merricaaa
[16:35] <williamrocker> okay booted to windows
[16:35] <williamrocker> now what should i do?
[16:35] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | Martiini,
[16:35] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Yeah, windows 8 by default does a shutdown that is really a hibernate
[16:35] <zamba> ActionParsnip: but no persistent-net*?
[16:35] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Go to control panel
[16:36] <williamrocker> by the way, secureboot is off. should it be on?
[16:36] <jrtappers> williamrocker, "Change what the power buttons do"
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> zamba: what do you mean?
[16:36] <zamba> ActionParsnip: there's no file for it
[16:36] <zamba> rules.d er tom
[16:36] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Leave secure boot off, it sometimes works, but if it is off leave it off
[16:36] <zamba> is empty*
[16:37] <williamrocker> well it was on but i need to boot win8 from usb drive and turned it off.
[16:37] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Just leave it off then
[16:37] <williamrocker> what should i choose in power button action?
[16:37] <jrtappers> williamrocker, "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
[16:37] <Martiini> are ya'll merricans
[16:38] <Martiini> what the hell are you doing
[16:38] <williamrocker> im sorry change settings that are currently unavailable? what is that?
[16:38] <jrtappers> williamrocker, and remove the checkbox from "Turn on fast startup"
[16:38] <cfhowlett> !ot | Martiini, this is the support channel.
[16:38] <williamrocker> oh got it
[16:39] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Have you unticked it?
[16:39] <williamrocker> oh ok i now understand the change settings that are unavailable
[16:39] <williamrocker> doing it
[16:39] <williamrocker> so turn off the fast boot right'
[16:39] <williamrocker> ?
[16:39] <jrtappers> Yes
[16:39] <Martiini> pure comedy
[16:39] <williamrocker> isnt that going to turn my pc slow?
[16:39] <bekks> williamrocker: No?
[16:40] <bekks> williamrocker: Why would it? :D
[16:40] <jrtappers> It saves about 1 second on boot,  but can mess with booting other OSs
[16:40] <williamrocker> oh ok xD
[16:40] <williamrocker> so now restart and try again?
[16:40] <jrtappers> Yes, lets see if that was the only problem
[16:40] <Martiini> William Rocker ... is real name?
[16:40] <cfhowlett> Martiini, please stay on topic or find a different channel.
[16:41] <Martiini> cfhowlett, stop mentioning me, who are you
[16:41] <gbear14275> Anyone know if the Intel Graphics installer v1.0.7 will install the 2014Q4 graphics update packages?
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | Martiini
[16:41] <gbear14275> on a 14.04 system?
[16:41] <Martiini> !guidelines | cfhowlett
[16:41] <cfhowlett> gbear14275, there was a q4 update so I'd guess yes ...
[16:42] <Martiini> cfhowlett, get off, jerkoff
[16:42] <williamrocker> it's restarting
[16:42] <williamrocker> jrtappers it's goes straight to win8
[16:42] <Martiini> cfhowlett, you fuck around in here again, I'll find you and fuck you up
[16:42] <williamrocker> :(
[16:42] <Martiini> get off
[16:43] <xangua> !ops | Martiini
[16:43] <williamrocker> Martiini go get laid
[16:43] <cfhowlett> !ops | Martiini threats, profanity
[16:43] <xangua> williamrocker: don't do that too please
[16:43] <cfhowlett> williamrocker, not helpful at all.  stop
[16:43] <Martiini> !ops | cfhowlett threats, profanity
[16:43] <williamrocker> sorry. i'm trying to solve a problem by getting help from people here and he's just screwing around -.-
[16:44] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Ok, what model computer is it?
[16:44] <cfhowlett> williamrocker, pro-tip; don't feed the trolls.
[16:44] <williamrocker> jrtappers are you still there?
[16:44] <Xenos1> Ubuntu 14.04 only detects certain USB devices if they're plugged in at start up how do I fix this?
[16:44] <williamrocker> its an asus K450JN
[16:44] <jrtappers> Xenos1, try running lsusb, see if they are detected
[16:44] <Xenos1> I'm not looking for a permanent fix as I think it might partially be hardware related, just a way to fix it temporarily.
[16:44] <jrtappers> williamrocker, try pressing esc as the laptop boots up
[16:44] <williamrocker> yes sir
[16:45] <williamrocker> u wanna try by skype?
[16:45] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Better to stay here, A it helps others and B it can show on google, to help people who search for problems
[16:45] <williamrocker> okay jrtappers. so now i've got the boot window before win8
[16:46] <williamrocker> it only shows WIndows Boot Manager
[16:46] <EriC^> uh oh
[16:46] <williamrocker> and enter setup
[16:46] <williamrocker> how do i install grub?
[16:46] <jrtappers> Ok, what ubuntu ISO did you use?
[16:46] <EriC^> boot a live usb
[16:46] <williamrocker> shouldn't grub solve the problem jrtappers
[16:46] <williamrocker> ?
[16:46] <anku> anku
[16:47] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Yes, that would probably do it, install to the disk so it adds to windows EFI partition
[16:47] <jrtappers> Or install refind
[16:47] <williamrocker> so how do i do it?
[16:47] <Martiini> ubuntu installs grub itself during installation
[16:47] <williamrocker> i mean i've tried to follow a tutorial but i dont understand any of it
[16:47] <bekks> jrtappers: refind isnt necessary at all on non-Apple hardware.
[16:47] <jrtappers> bekks, But it looks nice :D
[16:48] <bekks> jrtappers: It is totally useless :P
[16:48] <jrtappers> bekks, The macs or refind
[16:48] <bekks> jrtappers: refind.
[16:48] <James_Epp> I've been working on a simple startup application and it isn't working. Am I retarded? "sleep 8; firefox"  Why is this such a challenge?
[16:48] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Yes, installing grub from a live usb should fix it, do you want instructions for that?
[16:48] <Martiini> jeezus, I'll die of boredom
[16:49] <williamrocker> yeah sure. that would be really helpful
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> zamba: try: sudo find / | grep -i udev
[16:50] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Boot the live USB and then http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[16:50] <bekks> williamrocker: You can take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[16:52] <jrtappers> James_Epp, Is your display variable set?
[16:52] <James_Epp> display variable?
[16:52] <James_Epp> jrtappers: What is display variable? Is that to do with X or something?
[16:52] <williamrocker> another thing my good sirs: how can i enable wifi in ubuntu? i guess i wont detect my wifi drive
[16:52] <jrtappers> Try running  echo $DISPLAY
[16:53] <mtien> hello, i have a laptop running ubuntu and the down arrow key is broken. what is the easiest way to keymap it another key?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> williamrocker: what WiFi chip do you use?
[16:53] <James_Epp> jrtappers: Yeah, then what will I do with that variable?
[16:53] <jrtappers> James_Epp, Is it set?
[16:53] <James_Epp> yes it is
[16:53] <James_Epp> jrtappers: to :0
[16:54] <jrtappers> Ok, try running the script in sh
[16:54] <James_Epp> jrtappers: It works perfectly.
[16:54] <mtien> basically need an easy to use keymapping software.
[16:54] <jrtappers> James_Epp, when are you starting it?
[16:54] <williamrocker> ActionParsnip: just a second. going to check it
[16:54] <James_Epp> jrtappers: In startup applications. Whenever that happens. I'm assuming at user login.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> williamrocker: sudo lshw -C network
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> williamrocker: will tell you
[16:54] <maxime__> hi
[16:55] <James_Epp> jrtappers: The sleep 8 is to ensure networking has time so the race condition is settled.
[16:55] <jrtappers> James_Epp, Try piping display to a file at the start of your script, see if it is unset when startup runs
[16:56] <williamrocker> ActionParsnip: okay i'll let i know in a moment. my usb pen isnt working properly. going to make a boot usb again.
[16:57] <jrtappers> Anyone got any ideas about the DNS key check search path problem?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> mtien: https://radu.cotescu.com/remapping-keys-in-ubuntu-14.04/
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> jrtappers: never heard of it
[16:58] <jrtappers> ActionParsnip, Basicly, SSH adds the search domain to servers, but ignores it when checking DNS keys... Or at least it looks that way
[16:59] <mib_mib>  /usr/bin/env [ -L /home/deploy/projects/testproject1/releases/20150131165741/public/assets ] <---- what does this line do ?
[16:59] <James_Epp> jrtappers: I honestly don't know how to do that. I tried echo $DISPLAY > ~/output.txt and bash $DISPLAY > ~/output.txt but no results. How should I set that up?
[16:59] <williamrocker> jrtappers: can you help me with the GRUB? im afraid that I'm going to "destroy" my win8. I don't quite get the tutorial, I mean I get it but just to be sure.
[16:59] <jrtappers> SSH to VPS.blarg = Host key in DNS, ssh to VPS with blarg in search domain = No key in DNS       {blarg is to hide my server :D}
[16:59] <James_Epp> jrtappers: As well as bash echo $DISPLAY > ~/output.txt
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> jrtappers: weird.  I use search domains in my system and use SSH without issue
[17:00] <jrtappers> ActionParsnip, DNS host keys aswell?
[17:00] <cfhowlett> williamrocker, your windows will not go away due to grub.  at worst, you'll need to run windows repair to reestablish the bootloader
[17:00] <jrtappers> James_Epp, That should work, does the file exist after reboot
[17:00] <James_Epp> jrtappers: BUT to skip all that, firefox alone works. sleep 8; firefox doesn't work.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> jrtappers: no. We don't use them. Don't see much point
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> jrtappers: we use SFP for email.
[17:01] <jrtappers> James_Epp, Try running a script and having that in the script
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> SPF sorry
[17:01] <James_Epp> James_Epp: I'm paranoid and *need* that sleep. I tried doing 'gnome-terminal -x bash ~/script.sh' where script.sh had executable bit and was carriage-return delimited sleep 8\nfirefox and it didn't work
[17:01] <TJ-> jrtappers: Do you mean, resolving hostnames, as in a hostname given to the ssh program will use the system's resolver which might tack on a domain part to make a FQDN - but doesn't do the same for SSHFP (fingerprint) record in DNS ?
[17:01] <James_Epp> jrtappers: I'm paranoid and *need* that sleep. I tried doing 'gnome-terminal -x bash ~/script.sh' where script.sh had executable bit and was carriage-return delimited sleep 8\nfirefox and it didn't work
[17:01] <gbear14275> is there a kernel update schedule for 14.04?  Just realized i'm still running 3.13
[17:01] <dididodo> hi .... i listen to a audio book which is a single .mp3 file. is there a .mp3 player that allows to set position tags, so when i start listening the next time, i can easily move to te last position?
[17:02] <jrtappers> TJ-, yes
[17:02] <mtien> actionparsnip, are you there?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> mtien: yes....
[17:02] <williamrocker> cfhowlett: then answer me this. What partition should i install grub?
[17:02] <jrtappers> James_Epp, That is odd, try adding a symlink to the script in rc.5
[17:02] <mtien> i want to make page up and page down key to be arrow up and arrow down key.
[17:02] <bekks> gbear14275: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[17:02] <mtien> i'm still reading the link...
[17:02] <williamrocker> cfhowlett: I've left 500mb partition just for the grub boot but is that really necessary?
[17:03] <jrtappers> williamrocker, is there an EFI partition?
[17:03] <James_Epp> jrtappers: Oh my god dude. No. This functionality of ubuntu should just work. I'm not going that deep.
[17:03] <williamrocker> jrtappers: okay what does that mean? xD
[17:03] <jrtappers> williamrocker, what partitions are there?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> williamrocker: sounds fine
[17:04] <jrtappers> James_Epp, have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/34520/sleep-command-not-working-with-start-up-applications
[17:04] <mtien> i've open the file, but can you give me a pointer on how to make page up to be arrow up key?
[17:04] <bekks> jrtappers: Why dont you just put firefox into Autostart?
[17:04] <williamrocker> Let me write it in a second extensible
[17:04] <williamrocker> SD
[17:04] <TJ-> jrtappers: Well, RFC 4255 leave it to the implementor's policy, so I guess any clues to how to control it will be in the ssh source or docs
[17:04] <jrtappers> bekks, <James_Epp> James_Epp: I'm paranoid and *need* that sleep. I tried doing 'gnome-terminal -x bash ~/script.sh' where script.sh had executable bit and was carriage-return delimited sleep 8\nfirefox and it didn't work
[17:04] <James_Epp> bekks: Because I want to give it time to make sure networking is fully up. This is wireless connection. Needs to be perfect
[17:04] <James_Epp> jrtappers: Great link. Will try next.
[17:05] <jrtappers> williamrocker, so which partitions do you have?
[17:05] <gbear14275> thank you bekks, that was perfect
[17:05] <williamrocker> jrtappers: opening gparted one moment
[17:06] <williamrocker> jrtappers: are u ready?
[17:06] <canaima_> WINE
[17:06] <jrtappers> williamrocker, If it is long pastebin it
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> BEER
[17:07] <TJ-> jrtappers: The ssh docs say the policy is to implicitly trust keys, but no mention of secure path, so I'd guess that means first come, first served
[17:07] <James_Epp> jrtappers: Oh my god. Thank you. Excuse my language, but that was way to fucking backwards. If it works as a direct bash command, it should have worked from a script. FML. WAY too much BS.
[17:07] <James_Epp> This needs proper documentation. Where do I request that?
[17:07] <bekks> James_Epp: It is an open community, you can participate :)
[17:08] <mtien> actionparsnip?
[17:08] <James_Epp> bekks: Yeah. But I'm not official support. If this were arch I would have done so already.
[17:08] <jrtappers> williamrocker, parted -l | pastebinit
[17:08] <TJ-> jrtappers: I suppose the correct answer is: give ssh FQDNs
[17:08] <williamrocker> jrtappers: partition/file system/size /dev/sdb1 ntfs 300mb /dev/sdb2 fat32 99mb /dev/sdb3 unknown /dev/sdb4 ntfs 185gb(win8) /dev/sdb5 ext4 14.65gb(root) /dev/sdb5 linux-swap 3.91gb /dev/sdb7 18.98gb(home) /dev/sdb8 ext4 499mb
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> mtien: what?
[17:08] <James_Epp> Ubuntu is way too many n00bs like me. I'm not ruining other people's days.
[17:08] <bekks> jrtappers: We arent "official" support in here, since no one in here gets paid for it.
[17:08] <TheOneWhoHelps>  /join #supremos
[17:08] <williamrocker> ubuntu is in a laptop not in this pc im writing you
[17:09] <mtien> could you help me with keymapping pageup key to arrow up key?
[17:09] <jrtappers> bekks, Community support is usually a lot more helpful
[17:10] <williamrocker> jrtappers: so what's now?
[17:10] <bekks> jrtappers: Yeah, and since this is community support, everyone can participate.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> mtien: all I did was search the Web and found that link. It's not something I have ever done
[17:11] <mtien> actionparsnip, that's fine. thanks for the effort.
[17:11] <jrtappers> bekks, I agree that anyone can participate, if I have ever said otherwise then I retract those comments, but I cannot think of any time I have
[17:11] <williamrocker> jrtappers: so where should i install GRUB?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> mtien: have you looked online for guides?  Or tried YouTube....?
[17:12] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Could you run the pastebin command on the laptop, it might make it a bit easier to see what is going on
[17:12] <bekks> jrtappers: It wasnt targetted against you :) I just wanted to point out for James_Epp that everyone is invited to participate.
[17:12] <williamrocker> jrtappers: well i've tried but it isnt installed -.-
[17:12] <jrtappers> bekks, Few :S, I thought it might be but wasn't sure what I did :S
[17:12] <williamrocker> how can i install it?
[17:12] <mtien> to be honest with you, i'm not very comfortable mucking around in terminal. yes i have looked. i'm always afraid of typing in terminal and missing a space or adding a space where i shouldn't have.
[17:12] <jrtappers> williamrocker, do you have a wired network connection to it?
[17:13] <James_Epp> bekks: In a message at 11:08 you referrenced jrtappers instead of myself.
[17:13] <bekks> James_Epp: Yeah, that may happened due to a tab fail :)
[17:13] <williamrocker> jrtappers: not working. i mean my laptop was it, runs smoothly in win8 but ubuntu can't detect it -.-
[17:14] <masi> masi
[17:14] <masi> masi
[17:14] <jrtappers> williamrocker, But does it have a non wifi connection to download stuff?
[17:14] <williamrocker> jrtappers: i'm a new user to ubuntu and i want to install it in my pc to learn how to use it
[17:14] <masi> net
[17:14] <williamrocker> i only have a wifi router in here :/
[17:15] <jrtappers> Ok, can you run the command parted -l
[17:15] <williamrocker> jrtappers: i only have a wifi router in here :/
[17:15] <masi> updayt
[17:15] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Ok, can you run parted -l
[17:15] <williamrocker> jrtappers: okay
[17:15] <williamrocker> it doesnt react
[17:15] <Don_Nacho> Hello everyome :)
[17:16] <williamrocker> it just goes to the next command ready
[17:16] <jrtappers> williamrocker, you need to sudo it if you are in a normal shell
[17:16] <TheOneWhoHelps> *one
[17:16] <r0073r_> :)
[17:16] <Don_Nacho> I am new to this program
[17:16] <foxnet> hi All,
[17:16] <williamrocker> jrtappers: im using ubuntu in a USB
[17:16] <Don_Nacho> I need help with my twitch server
[17:16] <jrtappers> williamrocker, "sudo parted -l"
[17:17] <williamrocker> jrtappers: how can i sudo it if i have no connection to the internet in ubuntu
[17:17] <Don_Nacho> it keeps saying invalid NICK
[17:17] <foxnet> How to make ubuntu to show all the apps on all workspaces while task switching with Alt+ Tab
[17:17] <williamrocker> jrtappers:  wait
[17:17] <williamrocker> jrtappers: okay now it reacted
[17:17] <williamrocker> model disk sector size partition table:gpt is this it?
[17:18] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Yes
[17:18] <williamrocker> jrtappers:  so now what?
[17:18] <jrtappers> williamrocker, It should have an EFI partition, does it?
[17:18] <williamrocker> jrtappers:  yes EFI system partition Fla boo
[17:18] <williamrocker> jrtappers: size104 mb
[17:18] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Thats where to install grub
[17:19] <jrtappers> williamrocker, The disk is better, but if it needs a partition that one
[17:19] <williamrocker> jrtappers: what do you mean?
[17:20] <williamrocker> jrtappers: the disk is better?
[17:20] <foxnet> ?
[17:20] <jrtappers> williamrocker, If it asks for a partition its that one {/dev/sd??} otherwise use the disk {/dev/sd?}
[17:21] <williamrocker> jrtappers:  so i install grub in /dev/sdb2 fat32 boot? right?
[17:22] <williamrocker> jrtappers: so creating that partition with 500mb was a waste of space?
[17:22] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Which ubuntu ISO are you using?
[17:22] <williamrocker> 14.04.1
[17:22] <williamrocker> jrtappers: 14.04.1
[17:23] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Ok, the installer should have done the install, do you want to rerun it, that may be easier and quicker
[17:23] <TJ-> williamrocker: Make sure you're using the "grub-efi" package, not "grub-pc". else it won't install it correctly
[17:24] <williamrocker> so what should i write grub-install?
[17:24] <williamrocker> grub-install /dev/sdX ?
[17:25] <jrtappers> Make sure you have run the chroot commands first
[17:25] <jrtappers> williamrocker, Make sure you have run the chroot commands first
[17:27] <r0073r_> jrtappers GPT???
[17:27] <quillford> how can I get rid of esudo popping up?
[17:29] <jrtappers> r0073r_, Yes
[17:29] <steve___> Hello
[17:29] <r0073r_> oh, you use gdisk
[17:30] <jrtappers> r0073r_, parted works with GPT too, I tested on my machine :D
[17:30] <r0073r_> jrtappers, #gdisk list /dev/sd?
[17:31] <jrtappers> r0073r_, I used parted to list disks, but I have forgotten what I was doing, could you remind me
[17:31] <jrtappers> I may have got mixed up, 3 chat windows :S
[17:32] <pentarex> hey guys i made an encryption of my partition where the linux is installed and now everytime i boot it asks me for passphrase. Can I remove that or make it automatically
[17:32] <pentarex> its a server editon and i dont have GUI
[17:32] <pentarex> i dont want to install
[17:32] <jrtappers> pentarex, why is it encrypted?
[17:33] <pentarex> well i dont know i guess it was cool to try
[17:33] <pentarex> no not so much
[17:33] <jrtappers> pentarex, because if the password is on the disk in plaintext it might aswell be unencrypted
[17:33] <pentarex> well i dont care i even want to remove the password
[17:33] <pentarex> is this possible
[17:34] <r0073r_> jrtappers, you install gdisk
[17:34] <pentarex> its me
[17:34] <pentarex> i think
[17:36] <r0073r_> hi, pentarex
[17:36] <pentarex> r0073r_ hi mate
[17:36] <r0073r_> you can edit /etc/crypttab
[17:37] <r0073r_> 3rd is you password
[17:38] <pentarex> sda1_crypt UUID=ca5979e6-9708-4a89-8ece-xxxxxxxxxxxx none luks,discard
[17:38] <quillford> how can I get rid of esudo popping up?
[17:38] <pentarex> r0073r_ none luks?
[17:39] <r0073r_> yes
[17:39] <pentarex> what should i do now?
[17:39] <r0073r_> none write you password
[17:39] <pentarex> plain text?
[17:40] <pentarex> r0073r_ ok and now?
[17:40] <pentarex> save
[17:40] <pentarex> restart?
[17:40] <r0073r_> pentarex, reboot is ok
[17:40] <pentarex> ok thanks let me check
[17:41] <pentarex> r0073r_ its not working. its asking again
[17:41] <r0073r_> pentarex, wait
[17:42] <pentarex> well how much usually? ive waited like 20 seconds
[17:44] <r0073r_> pentarex, i test is ok???
[17:44] <pentarex> ?
[17:48] <zamba> i have no /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent*-net*
[17:48] <zamba> what do i do?
[17:49] <r0073r_> pentarex, you must be in recovery mode to change it
[17:49] <r0073r_> pentarex, no X session
[17:51] <SeanFromQueens> When downloading from Chrome, I can't download directly to a Samba share
[17:52] <SeanFromQueens> I get an error message that I have to chose a local file
[17:52] <TJ-> zamba: Is the system a server? Can you show us "cat /proc/cmdline" too?
[17:53] <jrtappers> SeanFromQueens, Similar to http://askubuntu.com/questions/342919/samba-share-as-download-location-for-firefox-12-04 ?
[17:53] <zamba> TJ-: it's ubuntu server, yeah.. BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic root=dev/mapper/ids--outside--vg-root ro
[17:53] <jrtappers> Has anyone got any advice for asus touchpads?
[17:54] <jrtappers> I can get it working with proto=bare, but it doesn't work otherwise
[17:54] <TJ-> zamba: I suspect it is using predictable interface names, possibly via biosdevnames package. In which case, udev won't write system-specific rules
[17:54] <gpietro> hi guys
[17:55] <gpietro> i need to recompile glibc in order to set a constant (in the headers) to adifferent value
[17:55] <zamba> TJ-: so how do i fix? because what's now eth0 should be eth1, and the other way around
[17:55] <gpietro> can anyone tell me how i can get the source code and do this?
[17:55] <gpietro> (I need to do that because of some problems with matlab)
[17:55] <SeanFromQueens> jrtappers: "Ok, 14.04 should sort it for you then. For info, I've just updated from 12.04 to 13.10 and the issue is fixed. – ChrisAnstey Nov 20 '13 at 11:41"
[17:55] <zamba> TJ-: this is vmware, so i guess there will be new mac addresses every time the system is rebooted?
[17:55] <SuperLag> Any cool tweaks you guys do when you install an Ubuntu box? I have a list of things I do for the VMs I make for work, and I'm curious to know if there are any other helpful things you do, that I could add to the list. http://lvb.link/UbuntuVM
[17:55] <reisio> gpietro: http://www.google.com/search?q=help+ubuntu+compile+glibc
[17:56] <reisio> SuperLag: hah, #1 is good
[17:56] <jrtappers> SeanFromQueens, Is it a similar issue, just so I know what we are working on
[17:56] <SeanFromQueens> Should sort it out* not particularly confidence inspiring
[17:56] <TJ-> zamba: The script responsible for writing the persistent net names rules, is "/lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules" - if you read that you may see why the persistent net names file isn't being created
[17:56] <gpietro> thanks reisio...i didn't think of google.
[17:56] <SeanFromQueens> jrtappers: oh I get it, thanks for working on it
[17:57] <jrtappers> SuperLag, SSH keys, for remote login
[17:57] <quillford> I keep getting a dialog box titled E Sudo popping up when I login and various other times. how do I get rid of it?
[17:57] <zamba> TJ-: so it recognizes that this is vmware?
[17:57] <SuperLag> jrtappers: I do that. I just didn't add it to the list. :)
[17:58] <SuperLag> reisio: Do you do that, as well?
[17:58] <jrtappers> SuperLag, screen?
[17:58] <SuperLag> jrtappers: I prefer tmux over screen
[17:58] <zamba> TJ-: and ignores them?
[17:58] <SuperLag> jrtappers: by a very wide margin
[17:58] <TJ-> zamba: I don't see anything specific to VMware in that file
[17:58] <zamba> TJ-: i do
[17:59] <reisio> SuperLag: when I'm stuck on Ubuntu, usually, yeah
[17:59] <reisio> try to jump through sudo hoops is not my idea of fun
[17:59] <TJ-> zamba: On 14.04 ?
[17:59] <jrtappers> SeanFromQueens, So is it a similar issue?
[17:59] <reisio> it also doesn't make your system any more secure :p
[17:59] <zamba> TJ-: yeah
[17:59] <SeanFromQueens> Yes
[17:59] <reisio> not the way Ubuntu uses it, anyways
[17:59] <TJ-> zamba: haha! I forgot to scroll down :)
[17:59] <zamba> TJ-: hehehe
[18:00] <TJ-> zamba: I thought the file had got a bit short recently :)
[18:00] <stryakr> Anyone know how/why mpd won't create the database on start?
[18:00] <stryakr> I had to delete it because it was corrupted
[18:01] <murdravic> is there a #game-console-emulation-for-ubuntu?
[18:02] <stefg> stryakr: a shot in the dark... write permissions ?
[18:02] <stryakr> stefg: i'll check, it's in the /var/lib/mpd so I assumed it had it already.
[18:03] <stryakr> stefg: mpd:audio is the owner and it has the correct mod settings
[18:04] <hdon> hi all :) anyone have checksum for ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[18:05] <murdravic> Is there a #how-to-set-up-your-overly-specialized-microsoft-pos-game-controller-in-ubuntu?
[18:05] <stefg> stryakr: sounds right, if the mpd daemon is running as user mpd. If the file system is writable ingeneral you can rule that out then
[18:05] <stryakr> stefg: it was working and I just had to delete the db cause of corruption, It was working fine before.
[18:05] <gpietro> is there a way with "apt&company" to install a package from the source directory?
[18:05] <jrtappers> hdon, What algorithm?
[18:05] <ianorlin> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/MD5SUMS
[18:05] <gpietro> like compiling it...and then installing it
[18:06] <stryakr> stefg: Thats why I am kind of lost for the time being
[18:06] <ianorlin> hdon ^^
[18:06] <hdon> jrtappers, any you have, i just want to check mine and make sure it's right
[18:06] <hdon> because i THOUGHT i turned off my computer mid-download
[18:06] <hdon> but i'm not sure
[18:06] <hdon> oh
[18:06]  * hdon clicks
[18:07] <hdon> thanks ianorlin
[18:07] <hdon> mine isn't listed here
[18:07] <stefg> stryakr: standard procedure: 1. check logs, 2. stop mpd service and run binary from cli to get some useful messages
[18:07] <hdon> mine is just amd64 not amd64+mac
[18:07] <hdon> unless they're the same
[18:07]  * hdon calcs md5 for his image
[18:07] <murdravic> Short sentences, short, posts, quick read.
[18:08] <murdravic> Some one to help with joypad?
[18:08] <jrtappers> hdon, sha256 347232658fb14a7ff473ae8854b588da3df70e36b97e4f70e00f18c7b64e4b31  ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:09] <stryakr> stefg: I'll check the logs
[18:09] <hdon> thanks jrtappers :) my image is good!
[18:10] <SuperLag> reisio: anything cool to add to the list? :)
[18:12] <stryakr> stefg: could there be an issue with creating the db maybe because I am see update: added for files
[18:12] <stryakr> stefg: with the appropriate time stamps
[18:13] <murdravic> Some one to help with joypad?
[18:13] <bekks> murdravic: Just ask a specific question :)
[18:14] <murdravic> Trouble Is, I need all.
[18:14] <murdravic> joypad is usb, but config says it's wireless.
[18:14] <IdleOne> so use qjoypad to configure
[18:14] <stefg> stryakr: i'm not a mpd expert... i'm just going through the troubleshooting checklist. usually a service will tell why it can't start, either in the syslog or by issuing a message on the command line
[18:15] <OerHeks> murdravic, xbox 360 ?
[18:15] <flux242> what font is used in terminal in ubuntu by default?
[18:15] <murdravic> OerHeks:  According to convers yesterday, I've xbox1
[18:15] <stryakr> stefg: well this is progress, cause it looks like it is TRYING to create the DB but is crashing
[18:16] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Need to verify...
[18:16] <stefg> stryakr: so next step: find out if  it segfaults or just quits because there is no db
[18:17] <Guest39140> alguem br?
[18:17] <stryakr> stefg: I think it might be a charset issue or permissions for the actual files it's trying to read.
[18:17] <stryakr> stefg: thanks for your help, i'll keep looking
[18:17] <murdravic> IdleOne:  qjoypad is only joy btn to kb key
[18:18] <flux242> Guest39140: Br alguem!
[18:18] <Guest39140> hi
[18:18] <stefg> stryakr: i'd run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' in one terminal while running 'service mpd restart' in another
[18:19] <Guest39140> alguem br
[18:19] <stryakr> stefg: do you have mpd installed?
[18:19] <murdravic> OerHeks:  need to varify... ?
[18:19] <Bashing-om> !br | Guest39140 ??
[18:19] <stefg> stryakr: no.... i have a banana pi running vlc-nox as a service :-)
[18:20] <stryakr> stefg: Ok. I am seeing something strange is syslog though.
[18:21] <stryakr> stefg: ovpn is trying to run by itself I think. every thirty seconds.
[18:21] <OerHeks> murdravic, oh that wireless issue with/without usb cord.
[18:22] <OerHeks> murdravic, is it a genuine controller or 3th party ? the guys yesterday tried a lot with you
[18:22] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Wait, what? Tried A lot?
[18:23] <murdravic> Go scant assistance.
[18:23] <OerHeks> murdravic, so what you want to verify?
[18:24] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Madol of uit.
[18:24] <murdravic> er
[18:24] <murdravic> model
[18:25] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Unit is 2, 2 months old, bought in bestbuy. It's new.
[18:25] <murdravic> Cord is different from the pic I saw yesrday.
[18:26] <murdravic> wired usb
[18:29] <murdravic> There go be difinitive difference...
[18:30] <OerHeks> murdravic, technicaly, when connected. what does lsusb say in terminal
[18:31] <uflaig> hello everyone, for some reason guake is sizing itself every time in100% height
[18:31] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Give me time to check?
[18:31] <uflaig> can anyone help me out
[18:32] <reisio> because a pop-out terminal that also occupies only a tiny bit of space is useful? :)
[18:33] <diego_> Boa tarde
[18:33] <john_doe_jr1> Can you put notes in a ~/.ssh/config file?
[18:33] <uflaig> reisio: it bothers me a lot
[18:33] <diego_> Hi
[18:33] <jrtappers> uflaig, try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guake/+bug/793405 #3
[18:33] <jooow> Hi. Is it possible if I want to go to a website that there is no DNS request because I have saved the correct IP address locally?
[18:34] <jrtappers> john_doe_jr1, Empty lines and lines starting with '#' are comments.  http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssh_config
[18:34] <Bashing-om> john_doe_jr1: Sure; If it is a bash config file, any line starting with '#' is seen as a comment and will not be parsed .
[18:34] <reisio> jooow: you can go to the IP
[18:34] <murdravic> OerHeks:  You want the whole return? I got a unID device for MS, one from intel, and chicony, the rest are linux
[18:34] <stefg> jooow: /etc/hosts is for that
[18:35] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Chicony may be HPAccelerometer?
[18:35] <apb1963> The following packages have been kept back:
[18:35] <uflaig> jrtappers: oh, that helpes, thanks a lot jrtappers!
[18:35] <apb1963>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[18:36] <jrtappers> uflaig, That's ok
[18:36] <apb1963> ubuntu 14.04
[18:36] <Bashing-om> apb1963: => sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- .
[18:36] <apb1963> oh dist-upgrade
[18:36] <apb1963> thank you
[18:37] <Bashing-om> apb1963: :)
[18:37] <stryakr> could a segfault for libc happen if a folder depth is too long?
[18:37] <apb1963> i'll get it right someday :)
[18:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Takes time -: , one never know all or about all .. Great community .
[18:38] <jrtappers> apb1963, Aliases can help memory :D
[18:39] <jrtappers> Until you use a new machine, then you have to remember properly :S
[18:39] <murdravic> OerHeks:  Still there?
[18:42] <parsnip> any ideas on .Xresources not being used by an app?
[18:43] <murdravic> I have no mouth. And I must scream my rage to the heavens.
[18:43] <_X_C_V_B_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgA10wXkxbM <-- how do have this as my desktop
[18:44] <reisio> murdravic: :)
[18:44] <murdravic> How to sa Momma's Boy in Czech?
[18:44] <xangua> _X_C_V_B_: you can try xscreensaver and try to find something similar
[18:44] <reisio> there are a few apps that'll put video on your root window
[18:45] <reisio> those're your terms: linux video root window
[18:45] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm using xfce4
[18:45] <murdravic> reisio:  Maybe I should just go back to Windows 10.
[18:46] <Epistol> Hi, I have a big problem. I have to flash my phone with flashtool … but with ubuntu. I've found the « flashtool » program and i'm stuck at 0 % with « flashing data » Does anyone know how to not beeing this stuck ?
[18:46] <Sixxen> hey guys
[18:46] <xangua> Epistol: what phone? flash what?
[18:46] <reisio> murdravic: maybe you should
[18:46] <reisio> Sixxen: heya
[18:46] <Epistol> Xperia M (i know)
[18:46] <Epistol> and flash the ftf
[18:46] <Sixxen> Does somebody know how to auto delete FB post?
[18:47] <Sixxen> or the whole wall
[18:47] <Sixxen> ??
[18:47] <reisio> if you thought I'd be disappointed to lose one person who can't help themselves at all "to windows", think again :D
[18:47] <murdravic> reisio:  You violate the very purpose of community tech assistance.
[18:47] <reisio> Sixxen: try #facebook
[18:47] <Epistol> Well, it's an hard reset ^^'
[18:47] <reisio> murdravic: nah
[18:47] <Sixxen> i used Greasemonkey before but it wont work anymore
[18:47] <reisio> the purpose of community tech assistance is not to do everyone's work for them if they threaten to use another OS
[18:48] <murdravic> reisio:  And how do I tryto getyou generic to Do All My Work?
[18:48] <Epistol> With tiny hope, i've removed the sd card and try again the operation ... without success.
[18:48] <reisio> and what now?
[18:48] <NikkiBenz> murdravic: Have you considered a Mac?
[18:48] <reisio> heh
[18:48] <NikkiBenz> I love my Macbook personally
[18:49] <murdravic> dodge the question, like those shits on dalnet
[18:49] <Epistol> "31/017/2015 19:17:09 - INFO  -     Flashing data" half an hour i've waited, still 0%
[18:50] <Sixxen> reisio: No answer there (#facebook)
[18:51] <jrtappers> Sixxen, do you want to permanently delete it?
[18:51] <Epistol> Oh and my config can't hold an emulated windows.
[18:52] <Sixxen> jrtappers: no only the wall and posts
[18:52] <murdravic> like a simple yes/no why does ubuntu-xboxdrv think my controller is wireless.
[18:52] <jrtappers> Can you set it to "only you"?
[18:53] <reisio> Sixxen: sounds about right
[18:53] <reisio> murdravic: what makes you think it thinks that
[18:53] <xangua> Epistol: is this an android phone? what is ftf?
[18:53] <Epistol> It's an android phone
[18:54] <murdravic> reisio:  Answering straight? Not half-conky elitist?
[18:54] <Epistol> and ftf is the firmware file
[18:54] <Epistol> xangua .
[18:54] <reisio> murdravic: hrmm?
[18:54] <xangua> Epistol: you mean a rom? a stock rom, a custom rom?
[18:54] <parsnip`> any ideas on Emacs getting loaded without .Xresources
[18:54] <Epistol> stock, the original one.
[18:55] <murdravic> reisio:  you read? you heard
[18:55] <ikonia> murdravic: it's a reasonable question
[18:55] <xangua> mmm I always remove the stock rom, you could try #android or #android-root Epistol
[18:55] <ikonia> murdravic: it's actually useful to respond to useful questions to try to get info to people
[18:55] <ikonia> it would certainly be something I'd ask you to understand your situation better
[18:55] <Epistol> okay thanks (but i'm still on a ubuntu computer, if i have a windows one, it sure work)
[18:56] <reisio> murdravic: well I read
[18:56] <OerHeks> murdravic, please full paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:56] <xangua> Epistol: also you mentioned a "flashtool" you found and downloaded, in ubuntu you just need to install android-tools-adb && android-tools-fastboot
[18:58] <murdravic> Systen Config, input devices, game controllerconfig... says my game controller is wireless when it's wired usb, lsusb doesn't fully ID it. Any more doubts on my competence?
[18:58] <OerHeks> murdravic, good luck.
[18:59] <ikonia> murdravic: no-one is saying you are not competent
[18:59] <ikonia> murdravic: however the xbox-drv and usb link up is quite basic (I was the one who patched it for RHEL) hence why it's a reasonable question to ask
[18:59] <Resbaloso> xangua is a troll
[18:59] <ikonia> eg: is it just the wording from the logs, or is it actually trying to communicate over wireless
[18:59] <Resbaloso> just see #supremos
[19:01] <murdravic> ikonia:  My appologies. My irk was not on your behald.
[19:01] <Epistol> xangua : OUH ! Maybe because adb is not installed, it cant see my phone
[19:01] <Epistol> and so, can't install some files.
[19:01] <ikonia> murdravic: yeah, but your attitude in the channel isn't really inspiring me/others to help
[19:02] <murdravic> OerHeks:  What you need to find it?
[19:02] <r0073r> lol
[19:02] <n45098> hug
[19:04] <TJ-> murdravic: One had to ask, but does the controller work correctly, or is the 'wireless' instead of 'wired' description simply a cosmetic annoyance?
[19:05] <murdravic> ikonia:  Maybe my experiences in #freebsd and dalnet, et al, including to an extent freenet, create sits easy to get ticked off on stonewalling and elitism. Maybe I've been doing it all wrong. All I seem to do is get angrythen apologize.
[19:07] <murdravic> Imean... It's not like I don't research it, but the more I work on it, the odder it gets.
[19:12] <murdravic> Here comes that anger management again. When I ask specific questions, ya'll ask me to clarify or ignore me. When I try to clarify you say do more research or ignore me
[19:12] <nonconvergent> Hi.  How is resolv.conf configured? I've got a couple of webservers what we just physically moved and need to update their nameserver ip, but the file warns againts modifying directly.
[19:13] <TJ-> nonconvergent: see "man resolvconf"
[19:13] <murdravic> OerHeks:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9981211/
[19:14] <SomeDamnBody> I am having a lot of problems with connecteding to the internet with my ubuntu 14.04 laptop. everything was fine, and usually I connected through network-manager and it worked elegantly. then I changed some setting. now, when I restart, network-manager does not show up in the top right, and by default the only interface shown by "ifconfig" is lo, I have to use -a to show eth0 and wlan0
[19:15] <SomeDamnBody> I don't know how to get network-manager to see the interface again.
[19:15] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: well, what was the setting you changed?
[19:16] <TJ-> murdravic: Have you seen http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.xboxdrv/198
[19:16] <SomeDamnBody> when I go to settings -> network it says "the system network services are not compatible with this version"
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> SomeDamnBody  is that wifi?
[19:17] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: Did you install some updated packages from a PPA?
[19:17] <murdravic> ikonia:  I ask a simple question and y'all take me on a tangent. SDB places a coplex dilema and y'all help. How does that affect my attitdute.
[19:18] <somedamnbody_> hey, I lost connection temporarily
[19:18] <somedamnbody_> did I miss anything?
[19:18] <pa> dearest, how do i clear the alt-f2 history (history-gnome-run) for gnome-flashback on latest ubuntus?
[19:18] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: well, what was the setting you changed?
[19:18] <pa> the old way just doesnt work anymore
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> SomeDamnBody  is that awifi connection?
[19:18] <somedamnbody_> ppf: I don't k ow the setting
[19:18] <OliPicard> has anyone got a link to the ubuntu server irc?
[19:18] <pa> old way that would be gconftool-2 --set /apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel/history-gnome-run --type list --list-type string "[]"
[19:19] <TJ-> OliPicard: /join #ubuntu-server
[19:19] <ppf> somedamnbody_: it's a bit hard to guess what happened if you cannot tell us anything ;)
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> OliPicard  type /j #ubuntu-server
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  was faster
[19:19] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: depends on your lag :)
[19:20] <Ozymandias42> Hi, I have a very specific question. When booting the LiveCD (from USB) on my HP Stream 7 (Tablet) I manage to get to the initramfs (casperfs doesn’t boot automatically. IRQ Bug) from where I further manage to mount the USB Stick und loop-mount the squashfs File, problem now is, that further automated mounts don’t seem to work which is why authentifications fail and I end up at a login prompt which doesn’t accept any
[19:20] <Ozymandias42> credentials. Question now is: What do I need to manually mount to make the LiveCD work as it should?
[19:20] <murdravic> ikonia:  You wrked on xboxdrv redhat?
[19:21] <SomeDamnBody> ppf are you there?
[19:21] <ppf> sure
[19:21] <SomeDamnBody> ok, I got dropped twice
[19:21] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: Did you install some updated neteork packages from a PPA?
[19:21] <SomeDamnBody> anyway, I was trying to use arping and I was likely using ifconfig to change things manually
[19:21] <SomeDamnBody> because I was trying to configure a rouer
[19:21] <vimal>     i had win8 earlier than i installed ubuntu in a new partition ... but now i am not able to boot any OS .... how to fix this..
[19:21] <SomeDamnBody> router*. It wsa like last week. I don't know the exact command that caused it
[19:22] <SomeDamnBody> but I do know that I took my interfaces down with ifconfig
[19:22] <SomeDamnBody> but now the interfaces aren't being managed intelligently by the nice network-manager
[19:22] <SomeDamnBody> and I want that
[19:22] <ppf> vimal: how are you trying to boot?
[19:22] <ppf> using grub?
[19:22] <ppf> or the windows boot manager?
[19:22] <vimal> currently i m running kali live CD... plzz help..
[19:22] <_root_> Hello
[19:22] <trijntje> !kali | vimal
[19:22] <kokotakus> vimal: reinstall grub
[19:22] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: OK... check "/etc/network/interfaces" - any 'iface' defined in there will be ignored by Network Manager since it believes you have taken over management of that interface. See "/var/log/syslog"  for NM messages that will confirm that. The solution is to remove/comment-out the iface definition statements in 'interfaces' file
[19:23] <konraddo> well jesli mówicie że to jakieś guwniane mocno jest, to odpuszcze i sobie wymyślę coś innego, ale yeah, zapytalem sie tylko o zdanie :v
[19:23] <konraddo> sorry wrong window
[19:23] <gr33n7007h> vimal, try #kali-linux
[19:23] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: I saw that on forums and I did check it
[19:23] <ppf> start nm-applet and see if that brings your network manager icon back
[19:23] <SomeDamnBody> it only contains the loopback interface
[19:23] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: I can't tab complete nm-applet...
[19:23] <SomeDamnBody> but I never removed it either
[19:23] <_root_> I need a livecd iso with all the restricted packages installed in it by default. Any one know one?
[19:24] <SomeDamnBody> I'm using (I think) the gnome 3 interface
[19:24] <SomeDamnBody> ubuntu 14.04
[19:24] <ppf> did you by chance uninstall network manager?
[19:24] <murdravic> ikonia:  Maybe I should start a vpn network. Highjack all the other connections. Maybe I'll get better response than simple localhost config. With my luck, my competency, I'll do more damage to inet than ms.
[19:25] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: OK ... check if network-manager is starting... again, look in "/var/log/syslog" in case it reports some configuration error and has quit. In which case the nm-applet GUI will not show itself
[19:25] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: the service starts
[19:25] <SomeDamnBody> I tried restarting i
[19:25] <SomeDamnBody> it*
[19:25] <_root_> ?
[19:26] <ppf> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[19:26] <murdravic> ikonia:  And you wonder why I got a bad attitude? I earned it.
[19:26] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: syslog is empty, save for 3 lines about sendmail
[19:26] <SomeDamnBody> entirely unrelated
[19:26] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: it was already installed
[19:26] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: Does it continue running though - that was my point. In a terminal try "nmcli nm" to get its status
[19:27] <ppf> network-manager-gnome should bring /usr/bin/nm-applet with it
[19:27] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: nmcli command not found
[19:27] <vimal_> SDB : will installing grub from live cd solve this..
[19:27] <ppf> ls  /usr/bin/nm-applet
[19:29] <ppf> vimal_: probably
[19:30] <Ozymandias42> simple question here: What do I need to mount manually (besides the casperfs file) to successfully mount the livecd from initrd if it doesn’t get mounted automatically?
[19:30] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: not there
[19:30] <ppf> then reinstall network-manager-gnome
[19:31] <bekks> Ozymandias42: Are you trying to boot the Livecd from Grub?
[19:31] <Ozymandias42> yes I do.
[19:31] <ni291187> w
[19:31] <Ozymandias42> on 32bit UEFI to be exact
[19:31] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: well right now I have no network access o hat machine
[19:32] <tonto> how to dodge launcher when maximize window on ubuntu 14.04
[19:32] <SomeDamnBody> will I be able to from what is on the machine locally
[19:32] <murdravic> Why does ubuntu-xboxdrv think my game controller is wireless and it's really wired usb?
[19:32] <ppf> then bring up your connection manually
[19:32] <ppf> is it wired or wifi?
[19:32] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: If network-manager is installed, "/usr/bin/nmcli" is in the package
[19:32] <ni291187> a
[19:32] <murdravic> ppf:  (12:32:23 PM) ppf: is it wired or wifi? me?
[19:33] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: I can get a wifi connection
[19:33] <murdravic> nehmine
[19:33] <ppf> TJ-: i think he somehow scrapped his nm installation
[19:33] <SomeDamnBody> but I don't know how to connect via wifi manually
[19:33] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: maybe you've changed the environment path so the tool can't be found - does "/usr/bin/nmcli nm" work?
[19:33] <ppf> murdravic: sorry, no, that was directed at SomeDamnBody
[19:33] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: I haven't changd the environment PATH variable
[19:33] <SomeDamnBody> nmcli is not there
[19:33] <TJ-> ppf: I'm tending to agree; I suspect NM has been removed/replaced by a non-archive version
[19:33] <jrtappers> Wifi manually, I did that a while back, let me check
[19:33] <murdravic> ppf as I say, I realized. neh mine
[19:33] <SomeDamnBody> how can network-manager be installed so that the service is there yet not the nmcli tools or anything?
[19:33] <vimal_> ppf : but on verifying if grub installed or not i doesnt show that grub intalled.. [using -> sudo files -s /dev/sda ]
[19:34] <tonto> how to dodge launcher when maximize window on ubuntu 14.04
[19:34] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: is wpa_supplicant installed
[19:34] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: "dpkg -l 'network-manager*'
[19:34] <tonto> how to dodge launcher when maximize window on ubuntu 14.04
[19:34] <jrtappers> Wifi from command line http://www.howtogeek.com/167425/how-to-setup-wi-fi-on-your-raspberry-pi-via-the-command-line/
[19:35] <murdravic> Why does ubuntu-xboxdrv think my game controller is wireless and it's really wired usb?
[19:35] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: ah ok. I thought it was installed because the service was supposedly running
[19:35] <SomeDamnBody> I can see that it's not installed now
[19:35] <SomeDamnBody> dpgk --get-selections shows it's marked as deinstall
[19:35] <xangua> tonto: you can set the launcher to autohide
[19:35] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: do you have a working wpa_supplicant installation? then follow what's behind jrtappers' link
[19:36] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: problem solved
[19:36] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: TJ-  is there any way that I can just re-enable/re-install from what I have locally, without having to go throuh the pain of manually connecting wifi
[19:36] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: try "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[19:36] <SomeDamnBody> yes I have wpa supplicant insalled
[19:37] <SomeDamnBody> ok... I'll try to follow the directions at the link the best that I can
[19:37] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: then i suggest to do what jrtappers' link tells you to, or get a wire :)
[19:37] <murdravic> Anyonehere know the xbocdrv code?
[19:37] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: If network-manager packages are still in apt's cache it'll install without needing a network connection
[19:37] <ppf> vimal_: run update-grub or update-grub2
[19:38] <ppf> see what happens
[19:38] <SomeDamnBody> TJ-: it must have cleansed them automatically or something because I haven't
[19:38] <SomeDamnBody> and it tries to hit the internet for it
[19:38] <parsnip`> any ideas on using xrdb in kubuntu?
[19:38] <SomeDamnBody> so I'll have to follow the directions in the link :/
[19:38] <SomeDamnBody> but thanks, that will likely fix it
[19:39] <vimal_> ppf : yeah, it found it. Does that mean it'll show grub when i power on my machine?
[19:39] <TJ-> SomeDamnBody: One trick, if you have an installer ISO/CD, is to use that to install from
[19:39] <ppf> depends
[19:39] <ppf> what partition are you installing grub on?
[19:39] <ppf> you still need to direct your bios to boot from that partition
[19:40] <vimal_> ppf : /boot/grub
[19:40] <ppf> that's a file system node, i'm talking about a hard drive partition
[19:41] <murdravic> anyone here know how xboxdrv works?
[19:41] <vimal_> ppf : i installed it from live CD [kali linux]
[19:42] <ppf> well, actually support for other distributions is kind of frowned upon here
[19:42] <reisio> murdravic: why, got a problem with it?
[19:42] <ppf> i guess #kali-linux would be of more help in your case
[19:43] <murdravic> reisio:  Not you. you already know my problem and refused to help.
[19:44] <murdravic> don't wanna put anyone on the ignore list...
[19:47] <vimal_> ppf : last time i used win8 i checked msconfig boot tab and i saw that there was no OS specified..
[19:47] <vimal_> ppf : doea that mean now i have no os that a bootloader can detect ?
[19:48] <ppf> msconfig is windows-only, that doesn't help with booting linux
[19:48] <ppf> use grub-install to install grub to a given device
[19:48] <ppf> google has a ton of how-tos, explaining how to boot win8 with grub
[19:49] <ppf> grub-install will overwrite any existing boot record!
[19:49] <ppf> so you won't be able to boot win8 the way you used to
[19:49] <vimal_> ppf : yeah, when i had windows i installed ubuntu, creating a new partition.
[19:50] <vimal_> ppf : yeah trying to install grub
[19:50] <ppf> are you running ubuntu or kali now?
[19:50] <vimal_> kali
[19:52] <vimal_> ppf : kali . I used EasyBCD on windows to boot dual boot windows and ubuntu, but now i have none. :D
[19:54] <vimal_> ppf : when i had insalled ubuntu on a new partition it was not able to dual boot.. so i used EasyBCD to  do so.
[19:54] <SomeDamnBody> so I tried to follow the directions an they didn't work
[19:54] <SomeDamnBody> ppf:
[19:55] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: i'm gonne need a bit more information than that
[19:55] <murdravic> Could some one help me set up an xbox-I-dunno game controller?
[19:55] <ppf> murdravic: what's wrong with xboxdrv
[19:55] <SomeDamnBody> well, the directions and my scenario deviated a bit
[19:55] <ppf> how so
[19:55] <SomeDamnBody> basically, the wifi I want to connect to is unsecure
[19:56] <SomeDamnBody> and I'm fine with that I just want to download network-manager
[19:56] <kokotakus> I connected my xbox controller via usb, and it works out of the box
[19:56] <SomeDamnBody> an the directions are set up to connect to a WPA service...
[19:57] <murdravic> ppf:  ubuntu-xboxdrv sees my wired usb unit as wireless. Otherwise, Sys Cfg is copletely unresposive.
[19:57] <ppf> SomeDamnBody: in that case, iwconfig wlan0 essid my_network should suffice
[19:57] <ppf> murdravic: ok, so? is that a problem?
[19:58] <murdravic> ppf It is.
[19:58] <ppf> aha
[19:58] <kokotakus> great discussion
[19:59] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: I tried that, it's not working...
[19:59] <ppf> in what way is it not working?
[19:59] <SomeDamnBody> but one thing is different that got me excited...
[19:59] <murdravic> Sys Cfg jscal or watsitcalled is unresponsive under ubuntu-xboxdrv. I'd call that a problem
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> the wifi light blinks, but it's not like real fast and indicative of reflecting transmission. it's very periodic...
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> anyway, I can't ping anything
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> I had to put the interface up
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> so I did
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> and then
[20:00] <SomeDamnBody> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid network_name
[20:00] <ppf> dhclient wlan0?
[20:01] <SomeDamnBody> later ifconfig commands show that I still don't have an...
[20:01] <SomeDamnBody> ppf: that got it going!!!
[20:01] <SomeDamnBody> thanks so much
[20:02] <SomeDamnBody> ok now network manager is installed...
[20:02] <SomeDamnBody> should I install network-manager-gnome?
[20:02] <ppf> yes, i think so
[20:02] <SomeDamnBody> ppf I think that worked...
[20:02] <SomeDamnBody> so I'll try and restart he computer
[20:02] <ppf> good luck
[20:03] <SomeDamnBody> alright i works
[20:03] <SomeDamnBody> it*
[20:03] <murdravic> ppf: Isthere A cheklist I should go thru?
[20:04] <ppf> what's sys cfg?
[20:05] <murdravic> ppf:  me?
[20:05] <ppf> yes
[20:06] <murdravic> ppf:  I dunno... system configuration?
[20:08] <murdravic> ppf:  Please don't tangent. Just stick with the issue?
[20:09] <ppf> the issue appears to be some tool freezing
[20:09] <ppf> what kind of tool is that?
[20:10] <murdravic> ppf:  In KDE it's under the Kshield button. The start menu...
[20:11] <ppf> what does it do?
[20:12] <ppf> is it really important that this particular tool works?
[20:12] <ppf> if so, did you start it from terminal to see what kind of a problem it has?
[20:14] <murdravic> ppf:  fuck off...  you talked sdb thru something in the manual and you give me incompetence??? Yeah. I've earned my bad attitude.
[20:15] <ppf> you did, did you
[20:20] <jhutchins> That one has quite an attitude.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> plenty of that nowadays... they think we're getting paid for dispensing advice
[20:25] <ki7rw> it's amazing all the opinions about how much swap to use
[20:25] <Rainbowbash> Hardy Heron
[20:26] <BluesKaj> ki7rw, depends how much Ram
[20:29] <ki7rw> BluesKaj, i have 16 GB on my lappy
[20:30] <dmtarmey> hi iv put abuntu 14;10 on my old advent 7113 but for some reason its cant see my wifi and only works on cable
[20:30] <ki7rw> some say to setup up swap x2 the ram
[20:30] <BluesKaj> ki7rw, well, unless you run a whole of data and streams etc , swap isn't needed with 16G RAM , IMO
[20:31] <BluesKaj> 2xRAM is for systems with less then 4 G RAM
[20:31] <ki7rw> BluesKaj, some say it depends on if you hibernate also
[20:32] <BluesKaj> yes of cours, but 16G RAM is plenty for most hibernations
[20:32] <BluesKaj> ki7rw,^
[20:32]  * ki7rw will reinstall with no swap
[20:33] <DJ_Unibob> What about if you have 4 GB of ram?
[20:33] <ki7rw> maybe that's why my fresh install didn't force setting up swap partition?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> I have 8G RAM and ran without a swap for a long time without any problems
[20:34] <ki7rw> oh well
[20:34] <BluesKaj> ki7rw, it asked though , right ?
[20:34]  * ki7rw has nothing better to do
[20:34] <ki7rw> BluesKaj, nope - itdidn't ask
[20:34] <DJ_Unibob> I have 4, ubuntu set up a 4 GB swap.  In Windoze, I have a 4 GB pagefile on each of my 2 drives.
[20:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:35] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: This channel has some problems with inexperienced helpers making assumptions and going off on tangents that have nothing to do with the problem at hand.  Still.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> DJ_Unibob: I run 4 Gigs ram .. and a very small swap, Swap also deepnds on what application you run . Heavy duty number crunching, yeah, lots of swap space needed .
[20:36] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, point taken
[20:36] <Apachez> great fun, latest kernel update for 14.10 (3.16.0-30) made my parents laptop to not want to boot ubuntu anymore
[20:36] <DJ_Unibob> I don't run any intensive apps and also don't hibernate, so I think mine might be set up fine, though I'm debating on tweaking.
[20:36] <Apachez> just those 4 red/white dots who changes colors and nothing happens
[20:36] <Apachez> amd as gpu
[20:36] <Apachez> so I guess something borked there..
[20:36] <orbot> could someone tell me what this user entered to get the following?
[20:36] <orbot> http://askubuntu.com/questions/183970/mount-exited-with-exit-code-13
[20:37] <Apachez> any hints on how to fix this remote?
[20:37] <ki7rw> with an ssd and 16 gb of ram i guess i shouldn't have too many performance issues
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ki7rw, exactly
[20:38] <DJ_Unibob> I think there is a way to edit grub while in it to disable Quiet / Splash (not sure which one), which would then give a detailed boot.
[20:38] <dmtarmey> hi iv put abuntu 14;10 on my old advent 7113 but for some reason its cant see my wifi and only works on cable
[20:38] <DJ_Unibob> That might give you an idea as to where it's hanging at.
[20:39] <DJ_Unibob> dmtarmey you may have to download additional drivers while connected via ethernet, since most wi-fi drivers are proprietary.
[20:39] <Bashing-om> dmtarmey: Have you fully updated/upgraded and then check and see what 'Additional Drivers' offers ?
[20:40] <Bashing-om> orbot: Rephrase your question. please .
[20:40] <delinquentme> im having issues saving an arduino file in a directory other than the default dir ... what do I need to do to allow the IDE to save to this non-standard location ?
[20:41] <orbot> i was having a external hard drive problem
[20:41] <orbot> found the link
[20:42] <orbot> just wanted to know what this person entered into the terminal to get that output
[20:43] <Bashing-om> orbot: Show us what is -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <- in a pastebin . So we know what we are working with .
[20:43] <orbot> hang on
[20:43] <orbot> i found the answer to my problem here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/183970/mount-exited-with-exit-code-13
[20:44] <orbot> my question is in the top part of the page the user entered a command in the terminal to get an output
[20:44] <orbot> i just wanted to know what they entered
[20:45] <Bashing-om> orbot: :) but with 7 responses to the question, we are to guess which command is in relation to what, where and how ?
[20:46] <orbot> are you at the link?
[20:46] <Bashing-om> orbot: Yes I have it pulled up .
[20:47] <orbot> ok top of the page it starts off with 'error mounting'
[20:47] <orbot> in the terminal there is an output
[20:47] <dmtarmey> its says its using smartlink soatware, iv done apt-get update no change
[20:47] <orbot> i just wanted to know what was entered to get the output
[20:48] <orbot> he entered in something to display his error
[20:49] <dmtarmey> DK_Unibob its says its using smartlink soaftware, iv done apt-get update no change
[20:49] <Bashing-om> orbot: Not necessarily entered anything .. that is an advisory of an error condition. Maybe the result of a failed attempt to mount a partition (??) .
[20:50] <orbot> ok so what would i enter into the terminal to display this error condition?
[20:52] <Bashing-om> orbot: If you do not have this particular fault, you will not see any reported error condition. So let us cut to the heart of this, are you having a problem accessing files on some external drive ? And IF so what file system format is on that external medium ?
[20:53] <orbot> the problem is already solved. i just needed to know what to enter into the terminal so that that particular error can be displayed.
[20:55] <Bashing-om> orbot: That outpur is an error advisory. If your system is not suffering the same same same condition you can not get an erorr . If there is a fault, you can get some indication of where your particular fault lies - depending on the nature of the fault .
[20:56] <rosco_y> I'm running Windows 8.1.  How do I install Ubuntu so that Dual-boot works?
[20:56] <Bashing-om> outpur/output*
[20:57] <orbot> can this error advisory be displayed in the terminal?
[20:57] <rosco_y> I've installed Ubuntu after Windows in the past, and I've had to go into the boot menu and select the drive I want to boot after I install Ubuntu.
[20:58] <orbot> or to put it differently is there something I can enter to display problems with mounting an external hard drive?
[20:58] <rosco_y> which isn't the worst thing, but it'd be nice if grub did the job for me
[20:59] <Bashing-om> orbot: No, not unless your system has that exact same fault (what ever that might be - there mounting some partition) .
[20:59] <rosco_y> but anyhoo, I guess we'll just trudge on.....
[20:59] <rosco_y> have a good one, friends and neighbors....:)
[21:00] <orbot> so this output isn't from the terminal?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> orbot: Well, It could well be displayed - and probably is . It is the output from a failed operation .
[21:03] <orbot> ok so is it possible to enter a command to display a failed operation?
[21:04] <Bashing-om> orbot: sure, IF there is a operation that is failing, repeat the command to start that operation. The result of the failed operation will be the same as the last time one tries to execute it .
[21:05] <dmtarmey> hi iv managed to get my computer to recognise my wifi now, but when i try and set up wifi i dont what what info to put in the boxes can anyone help pls ?
[21:05] <gamable> hi
[21:05] <gamable> i need help with something
[21:05] <Bashing-om> !ask | gamable
[21:05] <gamable> i need help making my font look like this in libre office
[21:05] <gamable> http://i.imgur.com/t98TJfx.png
[21:06] <gamable> could anyone help?
[21:06] <orbot> my problem was the exact same as his. did he not enter a terminal command to display the problem. that's what I want to know,... is there a terminal command I can enter so that this problem/error can be displayed?
[21:07] <gamable> !ask
[21:07] <TJ-> orbot: I'd guess that error is generated by something like: "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb2 /media/ntfs"
[21:08] <stevenjc> hey so im compling an application where is the best place to put an application
[21:08] <Bashing-om> orbot: Maybe from the liveDVD try and mount partitions and see if there are reported errors ? Then go looking at why/where/how .
[21:09] <TJ-> stevenjc: For user-specific executables $HOME/bin ... for system-local, "/usr/local/bin/"
[21:09] <orbot> the issue is that i connected the external drive and then a graphical error like the one in the link was displayed. but it's only for a short second. i wanted to see the error in the terminal.
[21:09] <jatt> dmesg
[21:09] <dmtarmey> is there anywere in ubuntu were people are able to help a new convert
[21:10] <stevenjc> tj: whats the difference ?
[21:10] <orbot> Bashing-om, there was no need for a cd i just used ntfsfix and the problem was resolved, again i just needed to know what terminal command can be entered to display the error.
[21:10] <TJ-> stevenjc: "/usr/local/bin/" is for packages built locally - not maintained by the system's package management system - but available to all users. $HOME/bin is per-user stuff
[21:11] <orbot> so what TJ wrote would more than likely be the command i need to display the error.
[21:12] <Bashing-om> orbot: A good possibility is as TJ- ^^ indicated . Depends on what hard drive, what partition, what file system . (sudo fdisk -lu )
[21:13] <TJ-> Bashing-om: orbot is asking specifically about the askubuntu question, where everything but the mount-point are given.
[21:13] <Bashing-om> dmtarmey: Here is a great place to get help, there are other places also .
[21:14] <orbot> look at it this way,... you try to mount a drive and the gui gives an error but it's displayed for a short second. one would have to open up a terminal and enter in a command to redisplay the error
[21:14] <Bashing-om> TJ-: :-) .
[21:14] <Ben64> orbot: ok, you got your answer... now what
[21:14] <jatt> if is a mount error it will be logged to syslog
[21:14] <orbot> going to try and recreate the problem
[21:15] <orbot> jatt, yes exactly
[21:15] <dmtarmey> Bashing-om hi can you help with connection to my router as i last the wifi got it back but need help setting up the connection pls?
[21:15] <orbot> is there something in the log file i can look at?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> dmtarmey: Nope, not me, others - I have never had a problem with WIFI to gain the experience .
[21:16] <TJ-> orbot: "/var/log/kern.log" and/or "/var/log/syslog"
[21:16] <dmtarmey> ok cheers
[21:16] <orbot> TJ-, yes that's the answer I was looking for
[21:16] <orbot> thank you
[21:16] <dmtarmey> were else can i try as no one else is speaking to me ??
[21:16] <TJ-> orbot: But usually you'll only see hardware-level errors reported there, not the finer detail of a mount command message
[21:17] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Explain your issue in more exact and detailed terms and someone may well be able to help
[21:17] <Bashing-om> !patience | dmt
[21:18] <jatt> orbot: grep -i mount /var/log/syslog
[21:18] <TJ-> dmtarmey: If there is a lot of detail, summarise it here and give us a link to a pastebin with the greater detail, output of commands, etc.
[21:18] <orbot> what about dmraid?
[21:18] <dmtarmey> TJ - ok when i installed ubuntu lost wifi connection, ive used some code ont he web and now can set up wifi connection manualy but not sure what to do
[21:18] <orbot> jatt, thank you,.. will look at that as well
[21:19] <dmtarmey> TJ - ok
[21:19] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Did the PC have wifi connectivity whilst Ubuntu was being installed from the installer?
[21:19] <dmtarmey> TJ - Yes
[21:20] <dmtarmey> it was lost during an update afater insatllation
[21:20] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Did the PC ever have connectivity after you booted the installed system?
[21:20] <dmtarmey> yes
[21:20] <TJ-> dmtarmey: That's good news.. means we should be able to fix it :)
[21:20] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Which ubuntu release is it?
[21:20] <dmtarmey> 14;10
[21:21] <dmtarmey> TJ - 14;10
[21:21] <TJ-> dmtarmey: So, before it failed, the system was using Network Manager and the taskbar icon to view/manage the WiFi ?
[21:21] <dmtarmey> yes
[21:22] <TJ-> dmtarmey: OK, lets check the current state of Network Manager. Start a terminal please
[21:22] <backbox> hey
[21:22] <backbox> :)
[21:22] <dmtarmey> TJ _ done
[21:22] <backbox> how are u ?
[21:22] <backbox> fine ?
[21:22] <backbox> :)
[21:22] <TJ-> dmtarmey: When you have the terminal, issue the command "nmcli nm" and tell me what the 2nd line says about the state of the WIFI-HARDWARE and WIFI columns
[21:23] <TJ-> dmtarmey: If its good I'd expect that 2nd line to start off like this: "running         connected       enabled         enabled   ...."
[21:23] <TJ-> dmtarmey: although "connected" might be different :)
[21:23] <dmtarmey> connected
[21:24] <dmtarmey> RUNNING         STATE           WIFI-HARDWARE   WIFI       WWAN-HARDWARE   WWAN
[21:24] <dmtarmey> running         connected       disabled        disabled   enabled         disabled
[21:24] <TJ-> dmtarmey: WIFI-HARDWARE is disabled.
[21:25] <dmtarmey> TJ - ?
[21:25] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Do "nmcli nm wifi on"
[21:25] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Then do "nmcli nm" again - check if the WIFI_HARDWARE status has changed to enabled
[21:25] <jatt> or turn the wifi switch on :)
[21:26] <TJ-> jatt: WiFi can be enabled even if RF-Kill is hard/soft on
[21:27] <dmtarmey> TJ- No change
[21:27] <TJ-> dmtarmey: The status of WIFI-HARDWARE still shows "disabled" ?
[21:27] <dmtarmey> TJ _ yes
[21:29] <TJ-> dmtarmey: OK, do "rfkill list" and check the Soft/Hard states of Wireless LAN. This tells you if the WiFi radio hardware is disabled or not
[21:29] <dmtarmey> root@dmtarmey-DIXONSXP:/home/dmtarmey# rfkill list
[21:29] <dmtarmey> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[21:29] <dmtarmey> 	Soft blocked: no
[21:29] <dmtarmey> 	Hard blocked: yes
[21:29] <TJ-> dmtarmey: If you see "Hard blocked yes" that means the physical wifi radio switch on the PC is active, and you need to change it to the off (radio enabled) position
[21:30] <jatt> :)
[21:30] <dmtarmey> TKJ- How ?
[21:30] <TJ-> dmtarmey: Find the physical switch on the PC and press/move it!
[21:30] <dmtarmey> TJ im sorry iv found it
[21:31] <dmtarmey> its was verry well hidden but iv found it sorry for wasting youre time
[21:31] <TJ-> dmtarmey: It's relatively common for the switch to get accidentally moved and causing this kind of issue
[21:33] <dmtarmey> TJ- hats of to you were ever u r in the planet
[21:33] <TJ-> dmtarmey: probably the same place as you :)
[21:34] <plasmasnake> does anybody know which package in ubuntu is responsible for stretching the desktop background across 2 monitors? there's a bug that i'm trying to isolate... i have a background that stretches correctly on the lock screen, and also stretches correctly the first time when you set the background, but then after rebooting the proportions get messed on the desktop (but still fine on the lock screen)
[21:35] <plasmasnake> i have one monitor in portrait and the other in landscape, so that likely has something to do with it
[21:37] <TJ-> plasmasnake: Is that with Unity?
[21:38] <plasmasnake> TJ-: yeah
[21:38] <plasmasnake> i could take a pic if you're interested
[21:39] <TJ-> plasmasnake: I'd suspect it'd be in one of the Unity components, or else Compiz (the compositor).
[21:39] <TJ-> plasmasnake: I run 6 screens but Unity can't cope so I use KDE
[21:39] <plasmasnake> hmm
[21:40] <plasmasnake> i just pulled up ccsm, and there is a Wallpaper plugin but it's not enabled
[21:41] <plasmasnake> so i wonder if that means it's another unity component?
[21:42] <plasmasnake> actually the plugin is just to define individual desktop wallpapers for each viewport
[21:43] <plasmasnake> hmm.. well i'll try to dig a bit deeper i guess, but clearly there's something different between the lock screen and actual desktop
[21:43] <Guest49886> i now my question isnt relevant but how much is € 1.550.00  in us $
[21:44] <Ben64> Guest49886: if you know it isn't relevant, don't ask it here
[21:45] <teward> Guest49886: google.  they ahve a conversion calculator.  (Don't ask offtopic here)
[21:48] <fry_> I am trying to connect to my ubuntu server via ssh. However I am facing some kind of issue. Is there a command I can use to try to connect in debug mode?
[21:49] <Guest49886> teward: actually it says it s 1.75 US Dollar , but i cant read with the point is it 1750 $ or 175 $ ? , sorry
[21:49] <bekks> fry_: Which kind of "issue"?
[21:49] <fry_> bekks: That's what I'm hoping to figure out.
[21:49] <fry_> bekks: right now, simply cannot connect. "connection reset by peer"
[21:49] <bekks> fry_: So you cant even describe whats happening?
[21:49] <teward> Guest49886: offtopic here, don't use here as a discussion medium.
[21:49] <fry_> bekks: any debug command from command line?
[21:50] <bekks> fry_: Just try ssh -v
[21:50] <fry_> thanks
[21:52] <fry_> bekks: thanks for your help
[21:55] <oli_> hello
[21:56] <oli_> Can someone help me with my bootsplah?
[21:56] <oli_> I only can see a purple screen but no bootsplash.
[21:56] <daftykins> does your desktop come up?
[21:56] <oli_> yes
[21:56] <daftykins> as in, does the rest function normally?
[21:56] <daftykins> so what's the point other than aesthetics?
[21:57] <oli_> I have fglrx driver.
[21:57] <oli_> it is very slow boot up
[21:57] <oli_> before the fglrx driver i used the normal drivers and there was the bootsplash and it was really fast.
[21:58] <oli_> But after installing the AMD drivers its really slow.
[21:58] <daftykins> oli_: yeah, welcome to using AMD with Ubuntu
[21:58] <daftykins> the fancy bootsplash is typically the first thing to go with nvidia too
[21:59] <oli_> but my graphic card was expensive :(
[22:00] <oli_> i wont buy  a new one :(
[22:00] <daftykins> yep and you made a bad choice for Linux
[22:01] <daftykins> oli_: which driver? manual download?
[22:01] <oli_> no
[22:01] <oli_> from the Ubuntu software center
[22:01] <oli_> The drivers from the AMD website didnt worked.
[22:02] <daftykins> fglrx or fglrx updates?
[22:02] <oli_> wait i look for it.
[22:03] <oli_> fglrx-updates
[22:03] <oli_> Im using fglrx-updates
[22:03] <daftykins> which card?
[22:04] <oli_> AMD Radeon 7790 Bonaire XT Black Edition 2GB
[22:04] <oli_> GDDR5
[22:04] <daftykins> you might want to remove that driver and find yourself a guide on how to install the AMD one properly then
[22:04] <daftykins> maybe it works out better
[22:05] <oli_> how to install it properly? Is the one more way to install it?
[22:05] <daftykins> oli_: there are tonnes of guides online
[22:06] <daftykins> !ati
[22:06] <daftykins> read there too.
[22:06] <bekks> oli_: Out of curiousity, how long is "booting takes long now"?
[22:06] <oli_> estimated 100 seconds
[22:07] <oli_> before it was 30 seconds
[22:07] <oli_> when i looked at the clock the boot time now was nearly 2 minutes so i estimate 100 seconds.
[22:08] <sabotender> okay so I am trying to figure out why my hdmi is not working when I connect my computer to my display
[22:08] <sabotender> I have a copy of my kern.log if anyone is interested in seeing it
[22:10] <divBy0> j #vmware
[22:10] <daftykins> sabotender: what about being connected before power on?
[22:10] <oli_> i think i found the error.
[22:10] <oli_> I reboot now. See you later :D
[22:10] <sabotender> daftykins: eh? I don't understand...what about it?
[22:10] <divBy0> anybody know how to fix vmware errors no 3d support and no video hardware acceleration? the vm is windows 8
[22:11] <bekks> divBy0: Install the vmware tools in your guest.
[22:11] <divBy0> i did
[22:11] <daftykins> sabotender: does it provide a different result...
[22:11] <bekks> divBy0: Then why do you think it is an Ubuntu issue? :)
[22:11] <Fuchs> divBy0: what driver on the host?
[22:11] <divBy0> bekks: guest is the vm and my current os thats running vmware is the host?
[22:12] <bekks> divBy0: Correct.
[22:12] <daftykins> sabotender: i'm guessing it's a second display on a laptop, if not give some more detail :)
[22:12] <divBy0> Fuchs: vmware driver
[22:12] <bekks> divBy0: vmeare driver on the _host_?
[22:12] <Fuchs> host, not gues
[22:12] <bekks> *vmware
[22:13] <divBy0> bekks: i dont know about host, whatever is default with ubuntu utopic
[22:13] <divBy0> how do i find the exact driver name
[22:13] <Fuchs> divBy0: ATI card, by chance?
[22:13] <divBy0> yes
[22:13] <Fuchs> if yes: yeah, no chance without fglrx
[22:13] <mr_boo> hope someone here knows some stuff about grub. the windows 7 partition isn't listed after a boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/9983887/
[22:13] <Fuchs> so hope that your card is supported by that and install it
[22:13] <divBy0> Fuchs: ok what is fglrx
[22:13] <Fuchs> divBy0: proprietary driver for AMD / Ati GPUS
[22:13] <Fuchs> terrible driver, but unfortunately the only sane way with VMWare and Ati
[22:14] <Kornos> sabotender:you plug hdmi cable in laptop?
[22:14] <divBy0> Fuchs & bekks : much thanks
[22:15] <Kornos> sabotender: or PC?
[22:15] <sabotender> no this is not a laptop. its an odroid. its only display connector is micro hdmi.
[22:15] <sabotender> http://paste.scsys.co.uk/461529
[22:15] <daftykins> sabotender: a what? some kind of ARM toy?
[22:15] <divBy0> hey so does flgrx replace my current video drivers?
[22:15] <sabotender> thats my kern.log
[22:15] <divBy0> or is it just a modification
[22:16] <dylan> XD
[22:16]  * sabotender frowns at the use of the word 'toy'
[22:16] <recharge> hi.. i seem to have this problem with my printer hp laserjet 1018 on ubuntu 14.10  http://askubuntu.com/questions/579006/problem-with-hplip-3-14-10-install    Can anyone help me copy the plugin to the right folder..? i dont know how to do it.. thank you
[22:16] <daftykins> sabotender: #ubuntu-arm then - that's not supported here
[22:16] <daftykins> sabotender: frown all you like :)
[22:17] <sabotender> how insulting. I hope you don't treat everyone who comes in here for help like that.
[22:17] <Kornos> sabotender: intel X drivers are buggy wrt hdmi.i reported this problem on tjeir mailing list
[22:18] <recharge> i mean.. where is ~/.hplip  ?
[22:18] <daftykins> ~/ = /home/username
[22:18] <daftykins> so it's /home/username/.hplip/
[22:19] <divBy0> Fuchs: so youre saying fglrx is worse than what i have? i dont really need better video on my windows guest i just use it for small tasks
[22:21] <Fuchs> divBy0: no, I'd say it's better, but then I am heavily biased against AMD/Ati. Do give it a go, assuming it is supported,
[22:21] <Fuchs> that should work with  VMWare. Did at my work computer (which unfortunately has AMD/Ati)
[22:21] <divBy0> Fuchs: how can i backup and restore my current drivers so i dont end up stuck at a garbled screen
[22:22] <daftykins> you don't (:
[22:23] <Fuchs> divBy0: shouldn't happen, worst case you can always switch to a virtual terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1), log in and remove the drivers again
[22:23] <divBy0> Fuchs: thats what i mean, how do i do that and then put the old ones back
[22:24] <Fuchs> divBy0: by removing the fglrx package with apt-get remove
[22:24] <TheMissingBit> anyone know how to make a bootable windows usb
[22:24] <TheMissingBit> from debian/ubuntu
[22:24] <maestrobones> I have Ubuntu server, and I installed LXDE on it- how do I remove it? Whenever I start it up now I get a gui
[22:24] <oli_> Hello guys!
[22:25] <divBy0> Fuchs: ok wait, now im not sure if i have an ati card
[22:25] <maestrobones> I want it to boot to the command line like it did before I installed lXDE
[22:25] <crazyhead42> Hey, how can I see the number of pages in a subsection of the manual? Usually this wouldn't seem to helpful, but it's one of the questions in my Linux class.
[22:25] <divBy0> $ lspci | grep VGA
[22:25] <divBy0> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display (rev 0e)
[22:25] <Fuchs> oh, Intel
[22:25] <TheMissingBit> anyone know of a tool for linux to make a bootable usb for windows?
[22:25] <daftykins> intel broadwell atom, too
[22:25] <regnartim> TheMissingBit: I think winusb can do that, or unetbootin.  i forget
[22:25] <Fuchs> this will make life a bit harder, I don't know how to get acceleration on vmware for these, sorry
[22:25] <oli_> I fixed my AMD problem with the boot screen.
[22:25] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: i think unetbootin can be used with some trickery, but it's easier to just get access to a Windows machine
[22:25] <oli_> I needed to active the graphic acceleration.
[22:26] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, my only windows machien has 8
[22:26] <TheMissingBit> wont let me do anything but eufi
[22:26] <divBy0> Fuchs: ok well thanks for the help, now i know where to start...  i should be looking to do something with the host video drivers and not the guest?
[22:26] <oli_> thanks ubottu
[22:26] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: but you're only trying to make a flash drive up, what's the relevance to that?
[22:26] <maestrobones> any ideas?
[22:26] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, windows 8 is a horrid os that only lets you make eufi usbs
[22:26] <Fuchs> divBy0: that's what I know from my work machine, yes. Both the host and guest have to support it
[22:26] <oli_> How to chage the color?
[22:26] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: that is 100% rubbish
[22:27] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, tell ms
[22:27] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: no i'm telling you, you are wrong
[22:27] <divBy0> Fuchs: and the guest should as long as its windows 8 with latest vmware tools?
[22:27] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, I am not.
[22:27] <Fuchs> divBy0: yes
[22:27] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, and that is a fact.
[22:27] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: download universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com - that'll load up windows 7 and 8 onto flash drives bootable as both legacy and EFI, if you have a proper ISO to make it from
[22:27] <divBy0> Fuchs: k thanks again and cheers
[22:27] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: no you are wrong, i work in IT and boot windows 7 and 8 as legacy AND EFI all the time.
[22:28] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, you are wrong.
[22:28] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, go to a secureboot enabled windows 8 install and use bootsect.exe to make a non eufi bootable usb
[22:28] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: so i suppose you don't want help if you think you're right? :) i do this regularly, so the facts speak for themselves :)
[22:28] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, clearly you've never used bootsect.exe
[22:28] <TheMissingBit> I do this all the time aswell
[22:29] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: i have, but you don't need to run that manually to create bootable media :)
[22:29] <daftykins> TheMissingBit: also you're in a Linux channel arguing Windows issues, not very wise.
[22:29] <daftykins> there is always more than one way to skin the cat you know
[22:29] <TheMissingBit> daftykins, you're arguing against facts ;)
[22:29] <tinka> can i configure wired network static in /etc/network/interfaces and have networkmanager only handle wireless. ethernet is intended to be fallback if my mum has trouble and can't even log into ui.
[22:30] <daftykins> no, i'm telling you it can be done and has been done
[22:30] <daftykins> so you can either complain about not being able to do something, or you can go try something else
[22:32] <Taroven> So I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 (x64), single booting, and the EFI loader doesn't seem to be recognized by the system. Secure boot is off and same results in EFI or CSM mode. Any ideas where to go from here?
[22:32] <crazyhead42> Hey, how can I see the number of pages in a subsection of the manual? Usually this wouldn't seem to helpful, but it's one of the questions in my Linux class.
[22:33] <stixman> hi is it ok to install ubuntu on this http://i.imgur.com/6Jf7vLk.jpg
[22:33] <daftykins> crazyhead42: man man
[22:33] <stixman> and how
[22:34] <crazyhead42> I've tried. It doesn't seem to have anything which can help me.
[22:34] <daftykins> !ops | stixman troll
[22:34] <divBy0> Fuchs: is there a performance/speed difference between vmware player and workstation
[22:34] <daftykins> stixman: don't waste our time with juvenile trolling
[22:34] <stixman> daftykins: i meant rather
[22:34] <stixman> i have an old pentium II with that card in it
[22:34]  * phunyguy looks up
[22:34] <stixman> how do i install?
[22:35] <TheMissingBit> stixman, please learn to troll
[22:35] <ianorlin> wait install the os on the soundcard?
[22:35] <stixman> yes
[22:35] <TheMissingBit> until you learn to troll please /part this channel
[22:35] <stixman> mine has ram slots for that purpose
[22:35] <TheMissingBit> at least try.
[22:35] <phunyguy> TheMissingBit: enough please
[22:35] <stixman> TheMissingBit: wanna see my "missing" bits
[22:35] <stixman> i used a knife to cut them off
[22:35] <phunyguy> stixman: you too.
[22:35] <TheMissingBit> !ops stixman troll
[22:36] <oli_> hey
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> !ops | stixman troll
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> Forgot the pipe
[22:36] <phunyguy> TheMissingBit: YES HELLO
[22:36] <stixman> 3==mm==D ~ ~ ~
[22:36] <oli_> how to get Teamspeak on ubuntu?
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> phunyguy, I haven't been in here for ages
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> phunyguy, don't judge me for not knowing the new ops :)
[22:36] <IdleOne> TheMissingBit: We are here. Stop now.
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> or old ones
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> IdleOne, I did stop.
[22:36] <TheMissingBit> >_>
[22:36] <divBy0> please forgive the ignorance but what is trolling?
[22:36] <daftykins> divBy0: not a valid question for this channel
[22:37] <TheMissingBit> divBy0, pm me if you would like an answer
[22:37] <Taroven> Hoping for a sidetrack: So I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 (x64), single booting, and the EFI loader doesn't seem to be recognized by the system. Secure boot is off and same results in EFI or CSM mode. Any ideas where to go from here?
[22:37] <TheMissingBit> Are there any virtualbox images of Ubuntu?
[22:38] <daftykins> Taroven: what kind of system?
[22:39] <divBy0>  is there a performance/speed difference between vmware player and workstation?
[22:39] <TheMissingBit> divBy0, no
[22:39] <ianorlin> Themissingbit yes you can make them yourself by installing the iso
[22:39] <TheMissingBit> ianorlin, no premades?
[22:39] <oli_> Does anyone know how to get Teamspeak on Ubuntu?
[22:39] <hdon> hi all :) i want to install the latest LTS, 14.04.1 i believe. i'm using debootstrap. which "suite" do i choose?
[22:39] <Taroven> daftykins: Toshiba C55D, pretty standard laptop.
[22:39] <ianorlin> I haven't used virtualbox in a while but ususally
[22:40] <daftykins> Taroven: check the BIOS is the latest, EFI implementations are so buggy it's worth giving that a go
[22:40] <Taroven> Blech.
[22:40] <Taroven> Think I'm gonna give it another whack with CSM through and through, I really don't want to reformat again for a bios update :(
[22:41] <TheMissingBit> oli_, wine is an option
[22:41] <oli_> TheMissingBit, but i heared you can install it on Ubuntu without wine.
[22:41] <daftykins> Taroven: what do you mean format? just boot a DOS bootable with a BIOS utility perhaps. Toshiba may even give ISOs, who knows
[22:42] <TheMissingBit> ol
[22:42] <TheMissingBit> oli_, http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[22:42] <TheMissingBit> Download the one relvant to your archetecture
[22:42] <Taroven> oli_: There's a Linux version of Teamspeak. IMO, switch to Mumble for your voice needs. =P
[22:43] <oli_> ok thanks
[22:43] <TheMissingBit> oli_, After downloaded, open a terminal and do this cd Downloads && dpkg -i *.deb
[22:43] <Taroven> Argh. CSM mode fails to start the pendrive. -.-
[22:43] <TheMissingBit> oli_, first have you checked the ubuntu software ccenter
[22:43] <daftykins> now he asks :P
[22:43] <daftykins> Taroven: how did you make up this drive?
[22:45] <Taroven> daftykins: Universal USB installer via this comp. Gonna try it once more using a different tool.
[22:45] <daftykins> what OS?
[22:45] <daftykins> 'dd' would be great, after hashing the download to confirm it was good
[22:45] <xhoch3> any maintainers of Qt libs around?
[22:46] <Taroven> Windows 8.1, sadly.
[22:46] <Taroven> I'd love to just dd it, but no dual boot on this one.
[22:46] <daftykins> Taroven: ah, UUI is fine - definitely worth hashing that download though
[22:46] <Taroven> Already did. :(
[22:47] <daftykins> update that BIOS then \o/
[22:47] <Taroven> And unetbootin fails to find the pendrive, of course. -.-
[22:47] <daftykins> i would not use that
[22:47] <Taroven> Yeah, it's a last resort tool for me. I prefer UUI or dd whenever possible.
[22:48] <JokesOnYou77> How can I stope Gnome 3 from turning off the screen immediately after it's locked?
[22:57] <oshua> Bonsoir
[22:57] <Cork> i have a remote machine (only access over ssh) and it has bad sectors on the root partition
[22:57] <daftykins> Cork: ok...
[22:57] <Cork> touch /forcefsck doesn't seam to mark the bad sectors, any suggestions how to solve this
[22:58] <daftykins> it's dead, you can't work around it - you need to replace it
[22:58] <daftykins> bad sectors can spread and get worse
[22:58] <Cork> uh, i know
[22:58] <Cork> but i need to mark the sectors as bad
[22:58] <daftykins> why
[22:58] <recharge> can anyone please help me with this problem..   http://askubuntu.com/questions/579006/problem-with-hplip-3-14-10-install
[22:58] <Cork> cause the computer basically hangs every time it touches the sectors
[22:59] <daftykins> right because you're still trying to use it :)
[22:59] <crazyhead42> Hey, how can I see the number of pages in a subsection of the manual? I've used "man man", had my dad try to help me, and all the other standard strategies, but have not found the answer, and I need it for my homework.
[22:59] <daftykins> played with badblocks? i think whatever you're trying to do here is going to be a big waste of time
[22:59] <daftykins> crazyhead42: try #linux since this isn't a homework channel
[22:59] <Cork> daftykins: i didn't ask for help on replacing the drive...
[23:00] <daftykins> yeah, that was your mistake really
[23:00] <Cork> i asked for how to do a badblocks mark on the root system
[23:00] <Cork> uh...
[23:00] <recharge> please help me get my printer to work..!
[23:00] <crazyhead42> Okay!
[23:00] <Cork> anyone that's willing to try to help with this?, instead of being a smart ass?
[23:00] <daftykins> it's a mistake to do anything than replace it that's all, no need to act all offended
[23:01] <h00k> Cork: the drive itself will re-map around bad blocks as it comes across them
[23:01] <Cork> h00k: this drive doesn't have smart
[23:01] <Cork> so i don't think so
[23:02] <h00k> Cork: I don't think there's a way to manually do that
[23:02] <plasmasnake> TJ-: turns out it's nautilus that handles the desktop wallpaper
[23:02] <Cork> h00k: you can with badblocks, but i can't find a way to run it, as this is the root system
[23:03] <Cork> i've ran it on other systems from init 1, but as i only have ssh... that isn't really an option
[23:03] <h00k> Cork: I was going to suggest booting a live disk and doing it from there, sounds like you can't
[23:04] <TJ-> plasmasnake: Ahhh, now you mention it, I seem to recall hacking the code for it many years ago
[23:04] <Cork> nope
[23:05] <h00k> Cork: sounds like daftykins had it right, sounds like a good time for a replacement, or livedisk/fsck/badblocks
[23:05] <daftykins> i tell no lies :(
[23:05] <Cork> replacement isn't an option in this case
[23:05] <daftykins> a disk without SMART is a very dubious claim too
[23:06] <daftykins> does "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" really not report anything on it?
[23:06] <Cork> daftykins: the drive is an ide drive from ~ 97
[23:06] <Cork> so no, no smart
[23:07] <h00k> Especially that old, replacement sounds like the thing you'll want to do. Something like badblocks might kick it to the curb if it's dying already
[23:07] <daftykins> being PATA doesn't rule out SMART
[23:07] <daftykins> h00k: +1
[23:08] <h00k> Cork: I've seen a simple format or diagnostics finally kick dying drives to the curb
[23:08] <h00k> bootup is especially hard
[23:09] <poz> anyone ever have a bad magic number in the superblock?
[23:10] <bekks> poz: What if? :)
[23:11] <poz> ever fix it on a ntfs?
[23:11] <bekks> poz: What if?
[23:11] <bekks> poz: Whats the actual issue behind that?
[23:12] <poz> hard drive issues
[23:12] <bekks> poz: Can you form a specific question out of that? :)
[23:12] <poz> it would not boot. so I went and got a 4tb hard drive to clone to with clonezilla. a line said somthing about bad magic number in the superblock
[23:13] <bekks> poz: What did it tell you exactly?
[23:13] <h00k> poz: let windows chkdsk it, maybe use something like HBCD or something
[23:13] <poz> so I was googleing around and tryed a few things, but nothing that has solved the problem
[23:13] <poz> windows wont boot up
[23:14] <poz> ubuntu, becuase it is awesome. has no problem and can partially see the disk
[23:14] <bekks> poz: What did it tell you about the magic number, exactly?
[23:14] <bekks> poz: Can you please be more specific, what do you mean by "can partially see the disk"?
[23:14] <poz> thats all it told me. that it had a bad magic number in the super block. then it went onto cloning. I cancelled it because it was going to take days when it might be a more simple fix
[23:15] <poz> it goes very slow, and many files do not appear - that is what I mean by partially
[23:15] <bekks> poz: So the message was: "Something about a magic number."? I do not believe in that.
[23:16] <poz> well it flashed by very quicky.. I would provide all the info if I had it :(
[23:17] <poz> I ran this: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb2
[23:18] <poz> and it seems to have made it more stable. In gpart, it does not show a red exclamation mark beside sdb2, but it still has one aside of sdb1, (a small 128 mb partition) but sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1 does not work with it
[23:19] <TJ-> poz: probably the file-system in sdb1 isn't NTFS
[23:19] <TJ-> poz: Likely it's an EFI FAT16/32 partition
[23:19] <poz> that is true, it actually does not say what file system it is
[23:20] <poz> it says unknow for the file system. maybe it is not even formated...
[23:21] <poz> unknown*
[23:21] <TJ-> poz: "sudo blkid /dev/sdb1" may help
[23:22] <poz> TJ, that does nothing
[23:23] <TJ-> poz: likely no file-system in that partition then
[23:23] <TJ-> poz: or, a corrupted FS. testdisk might recover it if there is one, or photorec might see wreckage inside it
[23:26] <euphoria64> Hey guys, I have a question regarding dual boot
[23:26] <poz> humm, I will try teskdisk
[23:27] <daftykins> euphoria64: ok, waiting for it
[23:27] <euphoria64> Actually, it's not really about dual boot but rather driver problems
[23:27] <daftykins> the plot thickens..
[23:27] <euphoria64> So I can install ubuntu pretty easily via the usb live media
[23:27] <euphoria64> But I can't find a way to install the network driver during the installation
[23:28] <euphoria64> I did find a file online that holds the driver, but I'm not sure whether to put it in a folder in the live media or something else
[23:29] <euphoria64> Yeah, I remember it was the iwlwifi module
[23:30] <daftykins> does this system - laptop? have wired networking?
[23:32] <euphoria64> Mmm... yeah, I can connect the laptop to a router...
[23:32] <euphoria64> Oh, you're asking me to download the module via wired connection.
[23:32] <daftykins> so install, do a fill update over wired, then run "sudo modprobe iwlwifi" then reboot
[23:32] <krux> trying to set up a cronjob.. @reboot /path/to/comand -m simple.conf << does not seem to be working anybody knows if i am doing something wrong ? or missing something ?
[23:32] <daftykins> might get working wireless after that, depends what the device is
[23:32] <daftykins> euphoria64: you need to share that with us really ;)
[23:33] <euphoria64> All right, I'll do it and see what happens. Thanks. :)
[23:36] <moppy_> Hi. Can I please ask how to identify a motherboard from within Ubuntu?
[23:37] <moppy_> I need to help someone with a bios upgrade, so I need to know what motherboard it is, and we don't have physical access to the machine.
[23:38] <euphoria64> moppy_, try "sudo dmidecode -t 2"
[23:38] <OerHeks> moppy_, lshw shows your hardware
[23:39] <OerHeks> euphoria64 +1
[23:39] <Nick_____> Hello, all.
[23:39] <euphoria64> Hi, Nick______.
[23:40] <moppy_> euphoria64: OerHeks Thank you both. Tells me it's a gigabyte Z87-D3HP-CF. Thanks.
[23:40] <Nick_____> I installed the newest Ubuntu on my computer, but after I logon, it freezes.
[23:40] <daftykins> moppy_: if there's any sign of multiple revisions for that board, don't take any risks :)
[23:41] <Nick_____> It's a HP Pavilion dv2000, and it previously ran Windows 7 64-bit, so I used the 64-bit installer.
[23:41] <daftykins> Nick_____: what kind of system?
[23:41] <daftykins> can you give any details of the spec of the system? is it known stable?
[23:41] <Nick_____> No problems on Win. 7 before hand.
[23:41] <daftykins> does a live session lock up?
[23:41] <Nick_____> ???
[23:41] <daftykins> leave it idle in 'try' for a bit and see if it dies
[23:42] <Nick_____> Okay.
[23:42] <moppy_> daftykins: Thanks. Seems to be 1.x only. Looking at bios now.
[23:42] <Nick_____> Welp, Imma go eat in the meantime.
[23:42] <moppy_> there's no way to tell bios version is there? :-)
[23:42] <regnartim> hey anyone notice that Chrome window resizing is slow/choppy?  any fixes for this, or does it sound like something w/ my graphics setup?
[23:43] <moppy_> Ah hyes there is. I dumped dmidecode to a file and i see it
[23:43] <daftykins> regnartim: sounds like graphics yes
[23:43] <gr33n7007h> moppy_, dmidecode -t bios
[23:43] <moppy_> gr33n7007h: Ya, i see it, thanks.
[23:44] <gr33n7007h> ah, ok
[23:44] <regnartim> daftykins: k thx... damnti nvidia
[23:44] <daftykins> regnartim: well chrome is no saint either
[23:44] <daftykins> :P
[23:46] <moppy_> Thanks for help all. We have the new bios. Its up the onsite guys to flash it now (should be funny, its an .exe file + the image) :-)
[23:49] <GladiaTeur> installed vsftp and added ftpuser and i gived hem root permission directory to /var/www/html "sudo chown wordpress:wordpress -R /var/www/html" and "sudo usermod -a -G sudo wordpress" but when i am browsing on ftp port 21 i can't create directory
[23:50] <GladiaTeur> MKD /var/www/html/test
[23:50] <GladiaTeur> 550 access denied thats what i get
[23:55] <Nick_____> Okay, after 15 minutes, the OS is still frozen.
[23:55] <reisio> Nick_____: :)
[23:56] <Nick_____> Actually, it's a combination of extreme lag and freezes.
[23:56] <Nick_____> Can anyone help me?
[23:56] <Nick_____> I've rebooted it a couple of times, tried Ubuntu (through the installer) with the same output.
[23:57] <doctari> can anyone help with a question about menueditor on edubuntu?
[23:58] <Nick_____> Is anybody active/on?
[23:59] <TJ-> Nick_____: Does it do the same in the installer, or only after being installed to the HDD/SSD ?
[23:59] <GladiaTeur> why can't normal user create directory on /var/www/html
[23:59] <GladiaTeur> and how to give hem persmission to that