[00:07] <doctari> can anyone help with a menueditor problem, please?
[08:13] <doctari> anyone know how to force profiles for students?
[17:02] <I-Punkt> after install edubuntu14.04 gnome-classic i cant change client-menu. why does the Edubuntu-Menu-Editor-Profile-Manager never work? in 12.04 all was fine. but now, whatever i try, the thinclients get the full menu. please help
[17:02] <I-Punkt> DE
[17:13] <doctari> I-Punkt, I am having the same problem. I have been trying for days to solve.
[17:14] <doctari> you have to sudo apt-get install python-gconf
[17:14] <doctari> to get menu-editor to start
[17:15] <doctari> question I-Punkt what do you have to do after you assign the group in profile manager?
[17:17] <I-Punkt> i import the edited menu-profile and pull it over the group. then i save it. thats all i have done
[17:18] <doctari> and it just works when the user logs in, I-Punkt?
[17:19] <doctari> I-Punkt, do you have any notes on file location or anything special you had to do to get it to work?
[17:19] <I-Punkt> it does not work. no errors. all looks good, but if thinclients connect, the user got the big menu
[17:20] <doctari> gconf is missing in python
[17:20] <doctari> you have to install python-gconf
[17:20] <I-Punkt> i try python-gconf
[17:21] <I-Punkt> this is what i have done sudo apt-get install python-gmenu kommander gksu
[17:21] <I-Punkt> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kommander /usr/bin/kmdr-executor
[17:21] <I-Punkt> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libkommanderwidgets.so.4 /usr/lib/libkommanderwidgets.so
[17:21] <I-Punkt> sudo chmod +x /usr/share/desktop-profiles/kommander-scripts/profile-manager.kmdr
[17:22] <doctari> what did that do for you?
[17:22] <I-Punkt> nothing, i think. this is what i found in the net
[17:22] <I-Punkt> sorry, my english...
[17:23] <doctari> did you do any of that for 12.04?
[17:23] <I-Punkt> apt say python-gconf is up to date
[17:23] <I-Punkt> no, in 12.04 all works. but it is long ago
[17:23] <doctari> try menueditor from the terminal. you can see any errors on start
[17:23] <I-Punkt> now i try 14.04 and nothing works in menu
[17:24] <doctari> open menu and save a blank archive first
[17:24] <I-Punkt> menueditor starts with no errors
[17:24] <doctari> open menu-editor and save a blank archive first
[17:25] <I-Punkt> what you mean blank? all entries off and than save?
[17:25] <doctari> when I was opening menu-editor there was nothing there
[17:26] <I-Punkt> waht filetype i have to save? testmenu.tar.gz?
[17:26] <doctari> so I tried saving an empty archive and after I closed and open menu-editor again all of the applications were there
[17:26] <doctari> yes
[17:28] <I-Punkt> the terminal does not show errors. finaly i saved a testmenu.tar.gz and finished. no errors.
[17:30] <I-Punkt> i think i found a error. i extract the testmenu.tar.gz. inside i found 2 folders but nothing inside.
[17:31] <I-Punkt> folder 1 share the second called xdg
[17:32] <I-Punkt> no file and no hidden files in the sufolders.
[17:34] <I-Punkt> that is the reason. the menueditor save the menu.tar.gz but there is no configfile inside. whats now?
[17:34] <doctari> try closinf menu-editor and then open it again
[17:35] <doctari> try closing
[17:36] <I-Punkt> in the last few minutes i have try it 3 times with differnent archive-names and extract it. everytime the same. subfolders without configfiles.
[17:36] <I-Punkt> hmmm
[17:36] <doctari> so when you opened menu-editor could you see the applications
[17:38] <I-Punkt> yes. all apps are there and i can check boxes. i uncheck many of them, hit save -> test.tar.gz. no errors posted in terminal. archive is ok, but without configfiles
[17:38] <doctari> the first archive I made I put into /etc/menueditor I think
[17:39] <doctari> hold on
[17:42] <doctari> I-Punkt, yeah your right mine doesn't have conf files either
[17:42] <doctari> hold on more files were created let me find them
[17:43] <I-Punkt> in /etc/edubuntu-menueditor  i find a folder called testmenu. the profile-manager seems to work, but without configfiles in the menu-tar there will be no changes for the clients.
[17:45] <doctari> look in /etc/desktop-profiles there should be some .listing files there
[17:47] <I-Punkt> yes. the second called testuser-testmenu.listing. but the menu-tar is buggy and thatswhy this configfile has only a few lines
[17:47] <I-Punkt> nothing that looks like my changes.
[17:49] <I-Punkt> connection fail?
[17:49] <doctari_> I-Punkt, sorry power went out here
[17:49] <I-Punkt> 18:47:15 - I-Punkt: yes. the second called testuser-testmenu.listing. but the menu-tar is buggy and thatswhy this configfile has only a few lines
[17:49] <I-Punkt> 18:47:44 - I-Punkt: nothing that looks like my changes.
[17:50] <doctari_> you are correct my archive file is blank also. directories but no conf files
[17:51] <I-Punkt> how can i get a example *.listing? if i see how it looks like maybe i can create my own menu.listing. i think there is a bug in menueditor
[17:51] <I-Punkt> whats now?
[17:52] <I-Punkt> without configfiles the profilemanager dont make changes in clientmenu
[17:52] <doctari_> that same folder has the default .listing
[17:54] <I-Punkt> inside these file is nothing tha looks like menu-apps
[17:56] <I-Punkt> what can i do now? what you think. i would try to install a 12.04-VM and create a menu.tar.gz. if this works i can import this in 14.04.
[17:57] <doctari_> there is an application you can install that will track all file changes I am rtying to remember the name of it
[18:01] <doctari_> tripwire, I-Punkt you could intall the 12.04 system and tripwire and then you could see every file that changes as you make your new profile
[18:02] <doctari_> then maybe we could figure out what is missing in 14.04, maybe even fix it
[18:02] <I-Punkt> sounds good
[18:03] <I-Punkt> i witch country u live?
[18:03] <doctari_> us
[18:03] <doctari_> you are in germany right
[18:03] <I-Punkt> yes and here ist evening.
[18:03] <I-Punkt> lol
[18:04] <doctari_> its sunday morning here
[18:04] <doctari_> actually sunday afternoon
[18:04] <I-Punkt> 7pm. its too late to make a vm with 12.04 now. iǘe to take my thins to bed.
[18:05] <doctari_> can I ask for a favor
[18:05] <I-Punkt> do it
[18:06] <doctari_> can we connect privately so I can give you my email address, I would really like to know what you find out
[18:06] <I-Punkt> ok.
[18:07] <I-Punkt> on witch way u will take me your email. privat window?
[18:08] <doctari_> look for a new tab that says doctari_
[18:08] <I-Punkt> have seen