[00:09] <BoyDark> Notte
[00:11] <lelik> hello
[00:12] <lelik> i have a problem with my kubuntu
[00:13] <lelik> after installing nvidia drivers and rebooting i can see only black screen and mouse cursor
[04:16] <usuario_> hola a todos
[04:17] <usuario_> Aqui no se habla Español verdad?
[06:37] <zzillezz> good morning
[06:37] <zzillezz> is there a way to make firefox or chromium look better with the plasma5 look ?
[08:15] <JunkHunk> hello I am using kubuntu 14.04 64 bits and I tried installing under wine office 2007 32 bits enterprise which I previously run on windows 7 32 bits flawlessly but under wine in kubuntu 64 bits I am getting this error: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=83120 I think it is related to 64 bits wine  libraries nut I dont know how to fix it please help!!!!
[08:34] <JunkHunk> I found this thread to help me solve the problem: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30785 but I am not good enough with english...
[08:48] <tolis> hello
[08:48] <JunkHunk> hello
[08:48] <tolis> here i can ask solution for a problem?
[08:49] <JunkHunk> yes
[08:49] <JunkHunk> I did a while ago...
[08:49] <JunkHunk> nobody answered though
[08:49] <tolis> haha , nice:P
[08:49] <JunkHunk> you need to do your own search and use this as a complement
[08:50] <tolis> i did but nothing :D i have  a problem with the mouse , i have a zalman gaming mouse but found no way to make it work , with search some more then
[08:50] <JunkHunk> perhaps someone here knows the problem or even had it
[08:51] <JunkHunk> give clues then
[08:51] <JunkHunk> model...os version..
[10:22] <Sadale> testing: testing: http://google.com
[11:34] <frac> Salve!
[11:35] <frac> !list
[11:41] <jubo2> Hello and big Thanks, Thanks for the great GNU/Linux Kubuntu14 OS
[11:41] <jubo2> then..
[11:41] <jubo2> problem..
[11:41] <jubo2> [13:39] <jubo2> I like my OSes in English
[11:41] <jubo2> [13:40] <jubo2> But I'd also like to have an calendar that starts with a Monday and a 24 hr clock
[11:41] <jubo2> [13:40] <jubo2> these I can have if I choose Finnish
[11:42] <jubo2> [13:40] <jubo2> But I don't want to choose Finnish coz I have to keep on translating stuff back to English anytime a problem appears with some SW or sometihng
[11:42] <unopaste> jubo2 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:54] <vegaonee> I'm having issues with my wireless connection in Kubuntu 14.10 (Plasma 4). I sometimes loose the wireless connection to my router and can't get it back unless I reboot the computer. What can be the issue?
[11:55] <vegaonee> I read that upgrading to kernel 3.17 might help, but I rather use the "official" kernel if possible.
[11:57] <soee_> vegaonee: hi, sorry but i never had such problem. Wait a bit and maybe others help you
[11:57] <soee_> vegaonee: also try asking on #ubuntu
[11:57] <vegaonee> soee_: Thanks :) I will wait.
[11:58] <vegaonee> What I can add: I don't think it's a DNS issue, as I can't even reconnect to the wireless network. And when I'm connected to it, everything is fine. I suddenly get disconnected to the network and can't connect back. This happens after a few hours of use of the distro.
[12:21] <Walex> vegaonee: some wireless drivers or wireless chips are buggy and eventually get in a "hung" state.
[12:22] <Walex> vegaonee: try to see if 'rmmod' of the driver and then 'modprobe' it back works instead of rebooting.
[12:22] <vegaonee> Walex: That sounds reasonable.
[12:22] <Walex> vegaonee: or switch off wireless and then back on. But usually it takes a full driver reset.
[12:22] <vegaonee> Walex: Any lasting solution?
[12:23] <vegaonee> Walex: Yeah, just switching wireless on and off doesn't help. It just makes things worse I think.
[12:23] <Walex> vegaonee: change wireless hw? Extensive kernel debugging.
[12:23] <vegaonee> Walex: What about kernel 3.17 upgrade?
[12:23] <Walex> vegaonee: a lot of wireless chip are badly designed and buggy. They work under MS-Windows only because the driver author gets told by the hw designer how to work around the bugs.
[12:23] <vegaonee> I actually have a wireless card laying around. Maybe I plug it in and wait for a fix?
[12:24] <Walex> vegaonee: the same buggy-but-Windows-driver-knows-where happens a lot also to USB chips etc.
[12:24] <vegaonee> Walex: I see. That sounds bad, since the laptop is brand new and I prefer to run Linux or BSD on it.
[12:24] <Walex> vegaonee: lots of Taiwanese etc. companies get chips designed by the lowest bidder
[12:25] <vegaonee> Walex: It's an Asus computer.
[12:25] <vegaonee> Haha :)
[12:25] <Walex> as one NASA astronaut one said before liftoff: I am sitting on a huge cylinder full of explosive and all I can think is that it was built by the lowest bidder
[12:27] <Walex> vegaonee: doing non-buuggy hw design is very difficult BTW.
[12:27] <vegaonee> Walex: I see.
[12:27] <vegaonee> Walex: Can you tell me more how to do this: "try to see if 'rmmod' of the driver and then 'modprobe' it back works instead of rebooting."?
[12:27] <Walex> vegaonee: ASUS stuff is usually good, but even they buy stuff from random people.
[12:28] <vegaonee> Walex: Yeah, I have had pretty good experience with them and Linux.
[12:28] <Walex> vegaonee: you have to figure out which "module" name the driver has.
[12:28] <Walex> vegaonee: try 'lsmod | less' for any plausible names.
[12:29] <vegaonee> Walex: Better grep that lsmod somehow
[12:29] <Walex> vegaonee: or use 'lspci' -n' to find the PCI id of the wireless and look it up in the '.map' files in the kernel modules directory
[12:29] <vegaonee> Walex: This is a bit of a new territory for me. Hardware debugging...
[12:30] <Walex> vegaonee: no, it is "system integration", and it is not easy.
[12:30] <vegaonee> Anyway, what about installing a proprietary driver?
[12:30] <Walex> vegaonee: one cannot put components together and expect that they "just work". Specs are ambiguous, designs are buggy, ...
[12:30] <Walex> vegaonee: probably a lot buggier.
[12:30] <vegaonee> Or plugging in the other network card and take it back out? Wouldn't that restart some service ?
[12:31] <Walex> vegaonee: it is not the service, it is driver state or the firmware state of the device.
[12:31] <vegaonee> Walex: Ah, okay.
[12:31] <Walex> vegaonee: I have a USB 3G modem by Huawaei, sometimes I need to unplug the device itself, so it resets its firmware state, sometimes I just 'rmmod' and 'modprobe' again its driver.
[12:32] <vegaonee> Walex: What about restarting the network manager to see it that might be the issue?
[12:32] <Walex> vegaonee: sometimes it works for a day without needing reset, sometimes it is quite frequent.
[12:32] <vegaonee> Walex: Yeah, that sounds like the issue.
[12:33] <vegaonee> Walex: Like my issue*
[12:33] <Walex> vegaonee: it is *unlikely* that it is the NetworkManager, but restarting it might help.
[12:33] <vegaonee> Walex: What network manager do Kubuntu 14.10 use?
[12:33] <vegaonee> Walex: The package name.
[12:34] <Walex> vegaonee: sometimes it is the WiFi (or 3G network) that causes trouble, because the WiFi AP might emit slightly nonstandard network frames that trigger bugs in the device firmware.
[12:34] <Walex> vegaonee: the package name has got no relationship to starting or stopping the NetworkManager.
[12:35] <Walex> vegaonee: and I don't use it, so I don't know.
[12:36] <vegaonee> Walex: Ah, okay.
[12:36] <vegaonee> Walex: Yeah, I sometimes get back the connection by restarting the router.
[12:36] <vegaonee> Walex: But it works on other devices without a restart I think. So that is not the main issue I guess.
[12:38] <vegaonee> Walex: Thanks a lot for your help! :)
[12:39] <vegaonee> Walex: But I don't get the wanted output from rmmod by the way.
[12:41] <Walex> vegaonee: ahhh, so it is a buggy chip-router interaction. Too bad, not all client and routers chips are compatible with each other.
[12:42] <vegaonee> Walex: Idk, with this driver at least, under Linux. Not in Windows. So I guess :)
[12:44] <vegaonee> Walex: Gah, I'm even failing trying to restart the network manager. Do you know the proper command for it?
[12:48] <monkeyjuice> sudo service network-manager restart  ?
[12:56] <vegaonee> monkeyjuice: Thanks, that was better. Hehe
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:20] <rudybotdog> morning BluesKaj\
[13:21] <BluesKaj> 'Morning rudybotdog ...cold!
[13:23] <rudybotdog> -4 here
[13:38] <tolis> hello
[13:39] <BluesKaj> hi tolis
[13:39] <tolis> can i ask for a solution here?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> yes, ask away
[13:39] <tolis> ok good , here it comes
[13:40] <tolis> i have a zalman usb gaming mouse
[13:40] <tolis> i see the led lights are on , but it can't operate
[13:40] <tolis> althought other normal mice fuction properly
[13:48] <BluesKaj> sorry tolls I have no idea why it doesn't work , a mouse should work automarically ...does lsusb show the mouse as a device
[13:49] <tolis> it founds this "Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. "
[13:50] <alokmahor> Hello
[13:58] <BluesKaj> tolis, there doesn't seem to be much info out there except for recompiling the kernel, which is difficult for some https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/473200-USB-Gaming-Mouse-04d9-a078-not-working-in-linux-plus-workaround
[14:05] <tolis> hm , saw a solution like that but i am new to linux:D
[14:06] <tolis> found the file hid.h but how can i adjust the value? cant save changes
[14:13] <BluesKaj> tolis, most likely you need root permissions kdesudo or sudo depending on whether you use a text editor or the terminal
[14:15] <tolis> ok ty will try:)
[14:28] <tolis> if u are still here , ty really much , worked:D
[14:33] <BluesKaj> tolis, glad to hear
[16:30] <Oli_> hello
[17:51] <benexttime> boa hi
[18:23] <jamil_1> hello all
[18:24] <jamil_1> no answer from #ubuntu
[18:24] <jamil_1> kubuntu is suddenly refusing to boot, in grub rescue doing ls (hd0,4) shows nothing, though ls (hd0,2) lists files in that partition
[18:25] <jamil_1> 4 is the boot partition, 2 is another ext2 partition
[18:27] <jstorey> Did you change something before kubuntu failed?
[18:28] <jamil_1> jstorey: didn't change anything
[18:31] <jstorey> It's possible that you have a bad disk.
[18:32] <jamil_1> jstorey: what should I do ?
[18:33] <jstorey> You could try reinstalling. If it's only bad sectors, reinstall should allow you to reformat and lock out bad sectors.
[18:34] <jstorey> Of course, that would destroy any data on the disk, which may not be desireable.
[18:34] <jamil_1> jstorey: how about boot through usb drive and reinstall grub ?
[18:35] <jstorey> What I do, in a case where I suspect a bad disk, is to add a new disk, reinstall, then mount the old disk to attempt to recover whatever files I can.
[18:35] <jstorey> jamil_1: that's an option
[18:36] <jstorey> I've never actually had a situation where reinstalling grub helped. Of course, that's a good thing to try.
[18:37] <jamil_1> jstorey: I am on a laptop so can't just add a new disk
[18:39] <BluesKaj> jamil_1, I've had boot-repair work for me after an upgrade that broke grub, either that or grub instal from livbe media will usually work
[18:39] <BluesKaj> scuse the typos
[18:39] <jstorey> Hirens boot cd has worked for me a couple of times.
[18:40] <jstorey> it's pretty good at finding and fixing corrupted partition tables.
[18:40] <jstorey> There are several others.
[18:41] <jstorey> When my laptop drive started throwing enough errors to make it unbootable, I put in a new drive, reinstalled, then bought an adapter that allowed me to mount the old drive via usb.
[18:41] <jstorey> It's just a small block that you plug your drive into, then plug the usb into your laptop.
[18:42] <jstorey> Of course, I've had enough problems with bad disks, that I now just make sure my important files are all backed up to a cloud service.
[18:42] <jstorey> Then, at the first hint of bad disk, I replace it, reinstall, and recover important files.
[18:43] <jstorey> I consider the hard drive as a disposable commodity.
[18:43] <jamil_1> jstorey: I hope its not because of bad sectors
[18:44] <jstorey> I hope not, as well. Confused partitions are much easier to fix.
[18:44] <jstorey> bad sectors make for a bad day.
[18:45] <jstorey> Here's an article that points to some good rescue cd's. Maybe you'll find a solution there. http://lifehacker.com/5984707/five-best-system-rescue-discs
[18:46] <jamil_1> jstorey: oh thanks, I have a bootable usb drive that I'm going to use
[18:46] <jstorey> Good luck.
[18:48] <jstorey> I'm new to irc. How are you causing your responses to be directed to me?
[18:49] <jstorey> I mean, I get an alert, so you must be doing something to cause that. Right?
[18:50] <wook> windows 10 is coming back...and now...20 years later...we're back to...AmigaWorkbench!
[18:51] <BluesKaj_> jstorey, yes by using your nick it auto highlights in the client
[18:52] <jstorey> BluesKaj_, like this?
[18:55] <BluesKaj> that would havw worked except there's no spce after my nick, jstorey , and you can use the tab key to autofill the nick
[18:56] <jstorey> BluesKaj: Is this better?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> jstorey, yes like that
[18:56] <jstorey> BluesKaj: Thanks. I appreciate the help.
[18:56] <BluesKaj> jstorey, glad to help
[19:03] <Felishia> is there a screen recorder that works with KDE?
[19:03] <Felishia> nothing works... with simplescreenrecorder I get weird results, I record and I get an screenshot of what I was doing 1 hour ago...
[19:04] <BluesKaj> Felishia, recordmydesktop?
[19:04] <Felishia> sud apt-get?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> yup
[19:05] <Felishia> apparently it's installed, let's see
[19:06] <Felishia> BluesKaj, WTF again it records my screen of 1 hour ago... with the audio and the movements of the current moment
[19:06] <Felishia> even the hour is wrong
[19:06] <Felishia> it says 1 hour ago
[19:07] <BluesKaj> Felishia, is the time correct in the panel?
[19:07] <Felishia> nope, not in the recorded video
[19:07] <Felishia> it has the windows I was using some time ago
[19:07] <BluesKaj> no I mean the clock in the panel
[19:07] <Felishia> yes
[19:07] <Felishia> it says 19:07
[19:08] <Felishia> my vid says 18:42 and got the windows of that moment
[19:08] <BluesKaj> strange
[19:09] <Felishia> DX
[19:10] <Felishia> gonna restart
[19:14] <toor__> |list
[19:14] <toor__> !list
[20:23] <yu_> anyone got tips on repairing cups?
[20:23] <yu_> lame distro cant find my printer anymore
[20:56] <Walex> yu_: that's a bit "generic"
[20:56] <Walex> yu_: the typical UNIX way is not that the "
[20:57] <Walex> yu_: the typical UNIX way is not that the distro finds your printer, but you know what printer you have and where you have it and you configure the system accordingly.
[20:57] <yu_> it worked fine until I needed it today
[20:57] <Walex> yu_: there are many "autoconfig" mechanisms but they all fail in several cases, on both MS-Windows and GNU/Linux. Not on Macs usually, but that's just because Macs are designed to offer limited options that you cannot change.
[20:57] <yu_> and now it says printerservice not available
[20:58] <yu_> and something about invalid filedecriptor
[20:58] <Walex> yu_: "rinterservice not available" is better than "it dont work"
[20:58] <Walex> yu_: "invalid filedecriptor" is bad news.
[20:58] <Walex> yu_: the first check is to open http://localhost:631/ which is the native CUPS interface.
[20:59] <yu_> cant connect it says when I try that
[20:59] <Walex> yu_: that's indeed bad news. because if the printer service is indeed not running it means it crashed, and that might mean some hw problems.
[21:00] <yu_> hw?
[21:00] <Walex> yu_: try: sudo service cups restart
[21:00] <yu_> ok
[21:00] <Walex> yu_: well, programs don't just crash, unless rthey are quite buggy and CUPS is pretty reliable.
[21:00] <Walex> yu_: and then try again to look at http://localhost:631/
[21:01] <yu_> now it works, but what do I look for from there?
[21:02] <Walex> yu_: the system logs, usually service daemons do write to the logs to indicate why they are terminating.
[21:02] <Walex> yu_: typically the files 'syslog' and 'daemon.log' in '/var/log'
[21:03] <Walex> yu_: if you get access to http://localhost:631/ it ought to list your printers if any
[21:03] <yu_> thanks so much Walex
[21:03] <yu_> now I can print again
[21:04] <yu_> I was so frustrated and thought I had to reinstall kubuntu with formatting the partition with it,,, such an easy fix if one just know how
[21:13] <yu_> is this the problem? "hpfax: [3537]: error: Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip"
[21:15] <Walex> yu_: that looks not very good
[21:16] <Walex> yu_: maybe there is no free space left.
[21:16] <Walex> yu_: with systems that are mostly "open" it is never necessary to reinstall, one just fixes the problem.
[21:17] <Walex> yu_: but that require having some system administration skill. System that have hundreds of components and dozens of service daemons built out of them don't "just work" forever. Whether they are GNU/Linux or MS-Windows or Mac OSX or even iOS or Android.
[21:18] <yu_> even tho I used different linux distros for a decade I dont know much just last month started readijg a socalled linux bible to try to understand more
[21:19] <yu_> supposedly about 10 GB left on partition with var
[21:23] <Walex> yu_: then it must be something else. check the existence of intermediate directories.
[21:23] <Walex> yu_: and then their permissions.
[21:24] <Walex> yu_: or it could be that the filesystem got a bit scrambled during a crash and there was no full 'fsck' repair.
[21:25] <yu_> I wonder if it was a mistake to not give /var a partition by itself
[21:26] <yu_> the machine do crash sometimes, not often and even shutdown from bash dont quite work either, so I end up holding poweerbutton for a while
[21:42] <Walex> yu_: and hopefully when it restarts you accept to do 'fsck' even if it takes a while?
[21:59] <yu_> dont know what fsck is, but I never canceled anything system asked for,it never asked for amnything at reboot
[22:21] <jalcine> yu_: you should let it go into recovery mode and do a fsck