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uhhimherehow do i check if I have a usb OTG capable device?07:13
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cpyargerhas anyone ported utopic or vivid for the maguro, toro?09:19
uhhimherehi guys how do i turn off the splash screen on my android phone so that I can see all the bootup messages?09:41
Ozymandias42hi. is anyone here with experience with the HP Stream 7 ?12:46
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timocovHello everybody. Where I can see builds?13:24
ogra_with the --show-image option to ubuntu-device-flash you can see the images for a specific device and channel13:25
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taiebotHi all i am going to report that 3g does not work anymore on mako vivid r87 but does anyone confirm? There is also in the apn section in system settings carrier. if you enter and exit constantly the APN section you add one entry any time you re-enter http://i.imgur.com/i0F7TZR.png13:55
sturmfluttaiebot: Looks like a case for a bug report, yes. I can't confirm since the SIM in my mako is not 3G enabled13:59
sturmflutHm. I managed to get WhatsApp Web working as an Ubuntu Touch Web App, but does anybody know if it is "legal" to do so? WhatsApp is known to block users who are using third-party apps.14:26
Stskeepzgeneric advice is not to name whatever you've made *whatsapp*.. that seems to go south quite quickly for many14:27
sturmflutStskeepz: Jep14:27
taiebot1sturmflut that would not be a third party app as it is developped by whats app..14:27
cwayneyeah but whatsapp doesn't appear to be a particularly rational company, wouldnt be surprised if they blocked it14:28
sturmflutcwayne: In this case it would be quite hard to even find out if you used the app or not. It is just a browser shell with a faked user agent string. From outside it looks like I am opening https://web.whatsapp.com/ with Google Chrome.14:29
sturmflutcwayne: But you're perfectly right14:30
cwayneright, that may be okay then.. just always paranoid with them :)14:30
cwaynewhich pisses me off btw, they're kinda like the anti-ubuntu/oss14:31
sturmflutJep. Personally I hate them, but people are going to want WhatsApp when the phones ship. Which is in seven days.14:31
cwayneyes and yes14:33
cwayne:)14:33
sturmflutMaybe it's better to not publish the WebApp and wait until WhatsApp Web supports other browsers than Google Chrome. Then people can just use the built-in browser.14:33
taiebot1sturmflut that does not make any sense because they would not support oxide. so why waiting?14:35
sturmfluttaiebot1: I don't know their plans. Maybe they'll distinguish by user agent, then Oxide will never be supported. Or they just accept all browsers and detect the available capabilities. Both ways are possible.14:36
sturmfluttaiebot1: Wrapping WhatsApp Web in Oxide has its limitations anyway. You can chat and send existing files, but the camera and the microphone don't work and you don't get any push notifications. It also crashed a couple of times already.14:42
taiebot1sturmflut: realised also that you will need an existing account with another phone also.14:43
sturmfluttaiebot1: Jep, you have to authenticate the Web version against an existing app installation on an existing phone. Using a QR code.14:43
sturmflutI think the major problem is that we don't have a single alternative messenger app. No Threema, no Telegram, no Jabber, nothing. There was a project to port Telegram but it hasn't been updated for a year.14:51
sturmflutDoes the Facebook WebApp support chats?14:52
cwaynesturmflut there's webogram14:54
cwaynewhich is telegram14:54
sturmflutcwayne: Right, my fault14:54
sturmflutAnd DTelegram, which seems to be the same14:55
cwaynebut yeah, your point remains valid14:57
taiebot1sturmflut http://andregarzia.com/posts/en/whatsappdoesntunderstandtheweb/15:10
taiebot1So it also needs another phone connected to the internet to work .. =-O15:13
sturmfluttaiebot1: Haha yes, my phone was online all the time, I didn't even notice that the webapp does no longer work if I take the phone offline15:17
taiebot1sturmflut i do not think its worth a webapp will make a lot of people think it can connect to whats app while it cannot15:19
sturmfluttaiebot1: Yep15:19
cwaynegod i hate whatsapp15:20
cwaynei really dont get why its so popular15:21
sturmflutcwayne: It was one of the first apps of this kind, it was free for the first year, the registration process was extremely simple (there was none) and it just worked15:25
cwaynefirst of its kind? isn't it just xmpp (slightly altered)15:26
sturmflutcwayne: Jep, like Facebook Chat.15:27
sturmflutcwayne: It is just a question of marketing and design. If XMPP was as easy to set up as WhatsApp is, and was openly marketed as an SMS/MS replacement, maybe WhatsApp would have never been developed.15:30
cwayneright15:31
cwayneand the world would be a better place :P15:31
vikdoes anyone knows where to edit persistent adb settings for ubuntu touch ? and where to put adb_keys ? thanks15:46
vik(touchscreen broken...)15:46
sturmflutvik: Hmmmm, good question.15:49
vikI've fiddled yesterday with this and found some files lije persist.radio.adb_log_on in /data/android-data/property15:50
vik(added needed files, does not work)15:50
viki've fiddled with default.prop15:51
vikand build.prop in system15:51
vikdoes not work either15:51
viki've made a find . -name "*.build" and etc15:51
vikerm *.prop15:51
vikbut I'm running out of idead15:52
vikI tried to run a usb mouse in OTG with a custom Y adapter for powering everything15:52
vikbut seems that nexus4 rom does not have otg enabled15:52
vikor that mouse does not work on welcome screen15:52
vikbasically the only thing I want to do is activate ssh and connect to my wifi network15:55
vikbut for this I think adb shell is mandatory15:55
studio_hi16:21
studio_someone here or only bots?16:22
studio_nobody here?16:25
studio_what kernel is ubuntu-touch using?16:32
studio_hmmm ....16:35
studio_hello?17:03
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studio_come on, why i get no answer here?17:31
skweekstudio_, whats up17:40
skweekmy kernal version?17:42
studio_yes17:42
skweek3.16.0.30?17:42
studio_i dont't know, therefore i asked17:43
studio_i am looking for a new kernel for the bq Aquaris E4.517:44
skweeki'd like to try touch on this device17:44
studio_i don't understand, are you still using ubuntu-touch?17:45
skweeki'm not, I have ubuntu installed on a tablet pc that disconnects from the keyboard to turn into a slate touch screen17:46
studio_sorry for my english, you are still running Ubuntu-Touch on a tablet?17:48
skweekI never have but I would love to try and see if it were better and more suited for this device lenovo miix 2 11.6 http://goo.gl/qM0b7L17:49
studio_@skweek this is not an embedded device ... i need help for a bq Aquaris E4.517:53
skweekhmm17:55
skweeksorry17:56
studio_@skweek why do you not install the "normal" ubuntu?17:57
skweekI have, the touch screen support is fairly limited18:00
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zmaj_can't wait for the bq phone launch next week :D21:55
adrian47Hello, this line: "mount --move /android-system ${rootmnt}/android/system" from touch script did not work for me, what can i do?23:33
adrian47android.img is properly mounted at /android-system but moving didn't work23:34

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