=== max is now known as Guest58044 [07:59] good morning === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [08:34] Good morning. [08:54] hello [09:01] Hey mkesani [09:04] what kind of craziness is going on in the world [09:04] hello out there [09:05] helloooooo [09:06] hi mkesani, how can we help? [09:07] oh, just first time talking. never used irc before [09:07] ok - this is a help channel [09:07] ok sorry will sign out [09:07] for chit-chat, please /join #kubuntu-offtopic [09:08] no need to sign out [09:08] help for what by the way [09:08] questions, problems, information [09:08] we have all kinds of helpful things for common questions [09:11] installed kubuntu 14.10 today i get this error in about:addons page in firefox [09:11] An error occurred during a connection to services.addons.mozilla.org. Peer's Certificate has been revoked. (Error code: sec_error_revoked_certificate) [09:12] kubuntu 64 bit plasma tech preview [09:33] hi al [09:34] Hey jamil_1 [09:35] I am booting my laptop using live usb. [09:35] When I try to copy data from laptop to portable harddrive (ntfs) ram usage keeps going up [09:36] until the system is freezed and I get error: task xyz blocked for more than 120 seconds [09:36] and at that point I have to restart the laptop [09:36] jamil_1: That makes sense, the linux kernel rather writes to ram and then to disk. To make data copying faster. [09:36] jamil_1: However it shouldn't freeze... [09:37] lordievader: so can I make it write directly to the external disk ? or put limit on cache size ? [09:37] lordievader: If I copy 1 gb file, as per top, free ram decreases from 2 gig to around 1.2 gigs [09:38] jamil_1: I don't think cp has options for that. [09:38] lordievader: may be mount command have such options ? [09:38] Perhaps, the actual problem is ntfs, it probably still is fuse. [09:40] lordievader: there is sync option in mount. will it help ? [09:41] lordievader: also there is flush option [09:44] installed kubuntu 14.10 today i get this error in about:addons page in firefox, "An error occurred during a connection to services.addons.mozilla.org. Peer's Certificate has been revoked. (Error code: sec_error_revoked_certificate) " [09:45] johnn: is it connecting to other websites? [09:45] yep it does, [09:45] it connects to addons page manually [09:45] so that seems like not a kubuntu problem, but a problem with mozilla.org [09:46] if they have a revoked cert, someone in their sysadmin team isn't paying attention [09:46] jamil_1 i wonder if swapiness set to zero would do anything [09:46] and that could be a heartbleed vuln. [09:46] jamil_1: ntfs is necessary? [09:47] ya i checked digitcert page too it said somrthing similar [09:47] well then nothing to do with kubuntu [09:47] it said i had to replace the certificate [09:48] understood i will try in firefox channel for help... [09:48] lordievader: I have only one external drive and it is ntfs, so yes [09:49] good luck, johnn === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [09:56] hi valorie looks like a general issue which should be solved soon by mozilla thanks for help https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1044633 [09:57] jamil_1: Is it one big file, or multiple small ones? [09:59] lordievader: I am trying to create image of a parition using dd and write it into external drive. not sure if this qualifies as one big file [10:01] lordievader: I used to boot from this parition but now it refuses to boot. From live, dmesg shows error that "No journal found" [10:01] good to hear, johnn [10:01] jamil_1: Sounds like a broken fs. And yes, that is one big file. [10:02] lordievader: any chance I could recover it ? [10:03] e2fsck might help. [11:00] Hiyas all [11:52] Hi, "lspci -k | grep VGA -A2" shows me "driver in use: nvidia" but "glxinfo | grep OpenGL" shows "Gallium 0.4, 3.0 Mesa 10.5.0-devel" [11:55] interima, version string with glxinfo | grep OpenGL ? [11:56] BluesKaj: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.0-devel [11:59] interima, just to confirm , lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' [12:01] BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/FXxU0wLz [12:03] BluesKaj: i will try to reinstall driver [12:04] interima, seems the kernel driver is nvidia and the Zotac graphics card has the nvidia gpu [12:04] ointer open system settings and check diver manager [12:05] interima,^ [12:06] you may not need to reinstall the driver [12:08] BluesKaj: http://i60.tinypic.com/1695g83.png [12:11] interima, ok , check the box beside the first driver which is the 340 recommended driver, then click apply.. guess it needs to be installed properly after all [12:13] BluesKaj: but driver in use is 343. i installed it from nvidia site [12:13] BluesKaj: and it work correct before i upgrade system by "apt-get upgrade" [12:14] interima, why, it's not going stay stable for long since the next nvidia upgrade will break your system, those proprietary drivers aren't well supported [12:15] the 340 driver works very wel, just because the 343 is newer doen't mean it's better [12:15] BluesKaj: you told me do that [12:15] BluesKaj: because this drivers don't work on my 14.04 [12:16] BluesKaj: you say that i must upgrade to 14.10 and i did [12:16] BluesKaj: next you told me install 340 from ubuntu repo [12:16] BluesKaj: i did. but it didn't work [12:17] yes and use the recommended driver...only use the website driver if nothing else works [12:18] BluesKaj: next you say download and install drivers from nvidia. i did and that not working. you told that i must use xserver reconfigure. and after this everything start working [12:19] BluesKaj: yesterday i upgrade system and driver now broken [12:19] BluesKaj: must i remove nvidia 434 first? [12:19] BluesKaj: 343* [12:20] interima, yes now you need to go back to the 340 recommended driver , it's been fixed for the nvidia 750 [12:21] the 343 should automatically be removed when you install the 340 recommended driver [12:22] vivid kde5 can't resize-drag windows and stuck in upper left corner [12:24] archetech, well it's a dev OS , ask in #ubuntu+1 about vivid [12:25] its a kubuntu release but thks for the irc tip [12:26] yes , but #ubuntu+1 supports all flavours, archetech [12:27] that chan topic looks like its appropo [12:27] archetech, you can also let the devs know in #kubuntu-dev since it's also a plasma thin [12:27] thing [12:29] BluesKaj: i did what tou told me. now i haven't anything. output of "glxinfo | grep OpenGL" the same. but now i nvidia-settings show me nothing also there is no nvidia driver in use [12:29] open the driver manager [12:31] http://i58.tinypic.com/2wga9vm.png [12:38] interima, do your desktop effects work ok, is your composting set to OpenGL3.1 and Qt graphics set to raster? etc etc === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [12:39] interima, seems you're using the 340 driver, and if everything works as it's supposed to then you're ok [12:42] BluesKaj: every app that use to check opengl say me that i have mesa driver, i can't even run steam [12:43] what about opengl in system settings desktop effects , are they set up? [12:45] system, settings>advanced>composting type and Qt graphics system === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [12:46] BluesKaj: comp. type - XRender. Qt graphics system - Native [12:47] no opengl available in the drop down ? [12:52] BluesKaj: opengl 3.1 but when i use it i have note that some effects cant be loaded [12:52] BluesKaj: cause they require opengl [12:56] kwin went awol fixed [13:02] interima, we normally don't recommend ppas for software, but in your case the the nvidia gtx750 seems to have difficulty with the recommended drivers =, therefor eyou might wanrt to try xorg-xedgers ppa here to install and try different drivers that might work. Scroll down down and click on "Technical details about this PPA", https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [13:10] Hi, can I have some help with my wireless card/driver? I have a dual boot installation, and although my home intaernet broadband connection is quite slow/terrible, it works ok in Windows. [13:13] BluesKaj: so i will try to install 346 from official site [13:14] In my Kubuntu 14.10 installation though, I get randomly disconnected I'd say frequently now :/ I don't know what's going on tbh, sometimes it stays online for a long time, and sometimes just goes away (this is while other home network users say the connection works fine for them) [13:14] Here's the return from 'sudo lshw -C network' https://ghostbin.com/paste/hwggy/raw [13:15] inetpro, "official site" do you mean the nvidia site ? [13:18] Nexia, have you seen this ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/327268/ralink-rt5390-driver-problem [13:19] I saw similar steps on another page, but I wasn't sure [13:19] BluesKaj: besides, the download link is 404 [13:21] * Nexia doesn't want to make a ubuntu forum account just to download the files from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2160399 [13:22] BluesKaj: I will make an account however, if you think it's a reasonable solution in line with my kernel/version of Kubuntu [13:23] cuz that looks old. [13:23] Nexia, never mind , it looks old , probly outdated [13:23] >< [13:23] If you have the misfortune of having Realtek it's probably cheaper in the end to replace the chipset [13:24] In the way that you do not damage things from going into a fit of rage [13:25] Nexia, I had a Ralink dongle and it was very unstable, it would break with updates and upgrades , very frustrating chip [13:25] * hateball has various scripts to reload modules and so on, on the machines where he has yet to replace these foul chipsets [13:25] I have it in a laptop :s [13:25] Depending on the model that's not usually a problem to replace [13:26] I've thrown 2 realtek dongles this past week alone :| [13:26] actually Wicd worked better than NM with the Ralink iirc [13:27] lol, it disconnected randomly AGAIN. [13:27] Disassembling a modern laptop is usually rather simple, the problem can be if only certain chipsets are whitelisted in BIOS [13:27] Nexia: do you see anything when running "dmesg" ? [13:27] I re-connected just in time to prevent my connection to freenode being ruined. [13:28] exodus [13:28] hateball: terribly long return [13:28] beyond my scrollback in konsole [13:28] ciao [13:28] !list [13:28] kubu_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [13:28] Nexia: well yes, but the recent stuff [13:29] Nexia: it should spit out wifi-related things if you get reconnections [13:29] Nexia, have you tried Wicd? [13:29] !wicd [13:30] not yet [13:30] !info WICD [13:30] wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.2.4-4.1ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 4 kB, installed size 46 kB [13:30] Nexia,^ [13:30] I just have a feeling it won't solve the problem, but I very well might be wrong [13:30] hateball: https://ghostbin.com/paste/6evh3/raw [13:31] Nexia, my experience with Ralink and Wicd was more positive than NM [13:31] ah I see [13:31] Nexia, it's worth a try [13:34] latest driver for RT5390 on mediateks own site is from 2011 -_- [13:35] BluesKaj: would it make sense along the same lines to say, that my additional internet disconnections (not network disconnect) while I play games/skype are related to this problem? [13:36] speeds slowing to a crawl is what usually happens for me, reassociate with AP and it's fine again [13:36] I would first go to blame my ISP instead of driver about the internet disconnects [13:37] it happens on some days, with Windows..but right now it's so annoying I feel maybe it's related to the first problem with the driver idk :/ [13:40] BluesKaj, alright, I'll attempt that then [13:41] Nexia, that poses a different question..isolate the ISP problem first before trying anything else [13:41] oh, that's just about the random disconnects from the internet (NOT wireless network disconnects) [13:41] Nexia, where are you? [13:42] BluesKaj: asia,india [13:42] ok [13:43] but about the problem I asked help with first, the wireless NETWORK disconnects randomly [13:43] well then wicd is worth a try , if it doesn't work you can always remove it [13:43] but when I ask other (windows) users on the same home network as me if it's working or not, they say it's working perfectly at the exact instance [13:44] alright, thanks [13:44] Nexia: if you decide to replace the chip, this is a nice choice http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/centrino-advanced-n-6235.html [13:45] Intel <3 [13:45] it shouldnt be too expensive either since the 7260 is the current nice thing [13:47] heh, well noted [13:47] at least I'll make sure not to buy a new PC with realtek if I have to [13:47] That's always a nice choice [13:47] in the future [13:48] altho RT5390 looks like it is ralink, but seems mediatek bought both realtek and ralink then I guess [13:49] Broadcom used to be equally awful but these days they tend to work well enough imo [13:51] yeah , I have a BCM4313 on the laptop and it's fine ..even works well on kubuntu 15.04 [14:54] BluesKaj: I just realized- wicd has no support for VPN connections...and I use a PPTP VPN connection when I need it frequently (especially when I connect to IRC networks EsperNet which don't offer vhosts) [14:54] :/ [14:55] Nexia, really no vpn support..bummer, sorry about that :/ [15:11] I have a mint box (lenovo S10E) when updating I have lost the ability to use my broadcom wifi. I have re installed it but still says disabled any ideas? [15:17] !mint [15:17] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [15:17] thank you [15:17] BluesKaj, do you think this could be solved in the next version of Kubuntu? :/ [15:17] 15.04, perhaps it might be more updated with my card's drivers? [15:18] I'll be updating to that when it comes out (because of plasma 5) for sure. [15:18] Nexia, best to ask that in #kubuntu-devel [15:23] uff, well thanks for all the help :) [15:23] I suppose I'll boot into Windows for now.. [15:25] nescius, have a little patience with devs ...it might take a while for a reply [15:26] oops wrong nick ..the guy left [15:42] BluesKaj: thats fine, the devs are responding on most bugreports I've posted, but thanks for encuragement :) [15:43] nescius, sorry the post was meant for a user who left about 2 secs before I hit enter [15:50] I know, I red the thing, poor Nexia :( [15:50] yeah, crappy wifi chip and isp methinks === David1977 is now known as Guest16467 === kevin is now known as Guest95090 [16:30] anyone testing 15.04 had wireless icon in system tray stop working? [16:32] paulovap: I think there is usually a separate channel for the unreleased version [16:32] #kubuntu+1 or something, cannot remember [16:32] paulovap, yes , until the last upgrade [16:33] Lynoure: thank you! [16:33] #ubuntu+1 [16:33] supports all flavours of 15.04 [16:34] thanks. I ll ask there [16:36] aand kubuntu is still considered a flavour ...for now [16:36] BluesKaj: for now? [16:37] wait til wayland become default , then the split will become more real IMO [16:37] more two years until that i think. [16:38] BluesKaj: btw know any workaround for that issue i mentioned? [16:39] paulovap, have you done a dist-upgrade lately ? [16:39] BluesKaj: just a upgrade today. No dist-upgrade [16:39] wayland is becoming default on Kubuntu? or on Ubuntu? [16:40] * Lynoure has been living in a(n oil) barrel [16:40] paulovap, well give it a try [16:41] kubuntu ..rumours have it as an option in 15.04 and default on 15.10, Lynoure [16:41] BluesKaj: i will. Thanks [16:42] I currently would not mind more division between Canonical and Kubuntu, given current Canonical patch acceptance policies. [16:43] xwayland is already available in the repos, but i haven't met too many brave enough to run it yet ...some guys were discussing bugs about it in #ubuntu+1 [16:43] Lynoure: that's a weird sentiment to have as to being both Ubuntu and not Ubuntu :-) [16:45] Walex: I'm weird. But mostly floss. [16:47] I mean the Contributor Agreement stuff. === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [16:53] Lynoure: sure, and that's a key part of being Ubuntu. By decision of those who have funded and developed Ubuntu and own the trademark. [16:53] Lynoure: so it seems a bit weird to be to want to be Kubuntu but not Ubuntu :-) [16:55] the alternative would be to be the KDE flavour of MINT for example. [16:56] Walex: some of them... I don't think most people who contributed work towards Ubuntu were even asked. === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [16:57] Walex: I got fond of Kubuntu before there was the CLA... it would be weird to stop. But yes, eventually might go for some other Debian derivate, or even back to the mothership. [17:29] Lynoure: but it is good for many to have a proper Kubuntu. And the CLA, for patches, is not that grievous. [17:31] Walex: it makes contribution impossible for many who are employed by other IT companies, unfortunately. [17:33] Greetings Kubuntuans, I found a bug that I have in the LaunchPad. [17:34] While I noticed the fix has been committed, I didn't know how to get it for myself. [17:34] Any help will be much appreciated. [17:34] The bug is found here https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1384512 [17:34] Launchpad bug 1384512 in Projet OpenGL "Plasma 5 frequent screen freezes" [Undecided,New] [17:47] diego___: What version of plasma are you running? [17:56] hi guys [17:57] i installed the last version kde 5, from jan 2015, from kde pages, i guess its kutuntu 14.10, and all works, but some visuals fail, like dolphin. The theme doesnt work on it. [17:57] is it a bug? [17:58] lordievader: I'm using plasma 5 [17:59] diego___: I know but what version? [17:59] Oh- hold on. I need to check. [18:01] :( i get plasma 5.2, i guess its beta right? [18:01] desktop crash all the time [18:01] shallwe: Plasma 5.2 in Vivid is stable. Are you running 5.2.0? [18:02] lordievader: yes [18:02] i downloaded from kde website [18:02] firefox theme fail too [18:02] kontact too :( [18:03] wow i got [18:04] i change default theme and works :) [18:04] shallwe: That is stable. Why didn't you get them from a Kubuntu ppa? [18:05] Kubuntu-next was, I thought, for Utopic. [18:06] lordievader: i get from kde website. a link to kubuntu-plasma5-201501231117-i386.iso [18:07] but now i guess its working [18:09] lordievader: Excuse my rookieness, how do I find the version? [18:09] shallwe: Ah, that is the Kubuntu Plasma5 tech preview that one already has the PPA equiped. [18:09] lordievader: well hehe [18:10] diego___: apt-cache policy plasma-desktop [18:10] lordievader: and can i reverse it? [18:10] for a stable version or only downloading again? [18:10] shallwe: 5.2.0 is stable. And I think that one has 5.2.0 [18:11] lordievader: hum ok. np i will try it, its for fun, not work :) [18:11] thanks man [18:12] lordievader: Oh, so that gives me [18:12] Installed: 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 [18:12] So 5.1.1 right? [18:12] diego___: Ah, try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [18:12] this kde is very fast, i love it :) [18:13] shallwe: Plasma5 is nice :) [18:13] yah :) === tjohnson_ is now known as tjj [18:14] lordievader: Mmph... After running dist-upgrade I still get the same version. [18:15] diego___: Is this Utopic or Vivid we are talking about? [18:15] diego___: lsb_release -a [18:16] Oh, Utopic Unicorn. [18:17] lordievader: Do you recommend going to Vivid? [18:17] diego___: No, Vivid is still in development. [18:17] diego___: 5.2.0 will probably come to the 14.10 ppa in the future. [18:18] And else in April you upgrade to Vivid ;) [18:19] is Tech Preview like an alpha, beta something? [18:19] So for now, keep 5.1.1 to be safe... [18:19] plasma [18:19] !plasma5 [18:19] Kubuntu Plasma 5 is a tech preview. To test it out, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ . If you find a bug, you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds. [18:20] shallwe: It is for testing. [18:20] lordievader: let me understand it, i can download kubuntu 14.10 kde 4, and after it, i will upgrade for plasma 5 with lines in console right? [18:20] some like udo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next .... [18:21] shallwe: Yes, but installing the Plasma5 tech preview does the same thing. [18:21] :( [18:21] and theres a version like 5.1 more stable than 5.2 ? plasma [18:22] shallwe: 5.2 is newer, has some more things added. [18:22] understand, ok i will keep it. its working for now :) ty [18:23] shallwe: No problem :) [18:24] shallwe: You could poke around in #kubuntu-devel for the state of the Utopic ppa. [18:25] ty msn :) i will try [18:32] lordievader: thanks, could you recommend a reference to get familiar with Kubuntu? I've been using it for a while, but still feel awkward asking for very basic questions. [18:34] diego___: Don't be afraid to ask questions ;) The Kubuntu/KDE is a very friendly community. [18:34] diego___: KDE also has an excellent wiki, available in many languages. [18:44] hey does anyone know how to save a pdf as a lower quality in okular? [18:47] Running Kubuntu daily vivid or 14.10 in Virtualbox results in a garbled screen - multi-colour mess. What settings should be changed? [18:50] Thanks for the reassurance. Have a good one. And greetings from Mexico. [18:57] hello why Dragon Player won't play .ogv videos?? is not that format supposed to be the linux video format? [19:00] Guest64024: Likely something in VB. Virtual graphics is allways tricky. [19:02] JunkHunk: Didn't Dragon use gstreamer? Might be that that is missing a plugin. [19:02] oh [19:02] sudo apt-get install gstreamer? [19:04] nope [19:04] that didnt work [19:04] JunkHunk: No, one of the plugin packs. [19:04] But I am not even sure if Dragon uses Gstreamer. [19:04] the plugin packs? [19:04] I dont know either [19:04] I selected no profile in multimedia setting for my Logitec C310 webcam and now I cannot get the webcam to capture audio. It shows up in the list under Multimedia, but it is grayed out. How do I get the system to re-enable the audio capture. [19:04] So before blindly installing things check taht. [19:04] that* [19:05] how? [19:05] It seems it can use different backends. [19:06] But I don't have Kubuntu infront of me, can't click around to look for it. [19:07] restricted-extras perhaps? [19:08] JunkHunk: kubuntu-restricted-extras rather. [19:09] but how come? [19:09] is not ogv the open source format?¿ [19:09] I am puzzled [19:09] Got to go, sorry. I'm sure others will help you out. [19:10] lordievader evading [19:10] lol [19:10] Sound device is grayed out under audio hardware setup when I select the webcam under hardware. Not sure how to re-enable [19:10] Was working fine an hour ago [19:10] oh [19:10] sound? [19:11] you definetely need pulseaudio manager [19:11] Yes, sound [19:11] pavucontrol I think it is called [19:12] I didnt like the default soundsettingsmanager in kubuntu [19:12] so I installed this: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/pavucontrol/ [19:13] hope that helps [19:57] how to install phonon-backend-vlc? [19:58] I found this page: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon-vlc/repository but I dont know how to install it [20:00] I installed git and used the git URL there...but I dont know whether it already install the backend in my system or just downloaded it [20:18] well at last I got the file and managed to untar it.. [20:18] but no readme in [20:18] its a folder called phonon-vlc [20:19] and after sh initrepo.sh [20:19] I got a bunch of files and two folders [20:19] but no readme [20:19] how do I install this? [20:20] !info phonon-backend-vlc [20:20] phonon-backend-vlc (source: phonon-backend-vlc): Phonon VLC backend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.80-0ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 96 kB, installed size 398 kB [20:21] JunkHunk: Why aren't ypu just installing it from the package manager? [20:22] numb [20:22] sometimes I am wicked [20:23] thanks for the tip [20:24] Hm [21:28] HI, I am using k 14.10. I have dual screen, sometime I do turn off the second screen and when i turn it back on after couple of hours, my pc either frezze or I got crazy windows [21:29] I am using open source amd driver from ubuntu [21:30] can any one guide me what could be wrong? === Yukkiino is now known as Yukkii