[02:42] inetpro: missed what was going on. Are we using Trello for ubuntu-za mini projects? [04:27] More almal [06:19] morning inetpro and others [06:20] ty inetpro [06:46] hi circ-user-VTD8b welcome to ubuntu-za [06:47] Can anyone tell me if it's an option to create a cloud using Ubuntu desktop 14.04? [06:47] Hi Kilos [06:47] you'll have to hang for an answer, everyone seems very busy this morning [06:50] i dont know anything about clouds apart from them brining rain sometimes. do you want to create an own cloud on your desktop? [06:54] Kilos: I would like to play with it a bit, maybe I can make it rain :) [06:55] hahaha that would be cool [06:55] Yeah I also thought so [06:55] lets see what i can find till someone brainy gets here [06:56] http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/openstack [06:56] I have a desktop with 14.04 and I use it too much to give it up and make it a server only and I'm not a huge fan of dual boot [06:57] you have a single physical machine and you want to make a cloud on it? [06:58] morning ThatGraemeGuy [06:58] 'lo [07:00] Hi ThatGraemeGuy I have a pc and some others that I'd like to get some cloud storage with for now [07:00] have an older pc and some laptops as well [07:01] I wanted to do this a year or so ago and somehow decided not to go further, now I'm in the mood again [07:01] hehe [07:02] hrmm [07:03] I also have a p3 with probably 512mb ram and 4/5 x hdd's that I'd like to add if possible [07:03] i hate that term cloud because there's a 99% chance neither of us are going to end up knowing exactly what you want [07:04] Ok simply put, I want online storage that I can access any time anywhere [07:04] http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud [07:04] secure private online staorage [07:04] that's the cloud story [07:04] it sounds like you want some other thing [07:05] you want a bunch of local storage on multiple machines to be available as 1 logical storage place [07:06] basically yes [07:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_storage_cloud <-- something like that? [07:16] circ-user-VTD8b you know you can hang here all the time hey? not only when you need some help [07:20] hi Rynomster [07:29] morning Kilos :) just making a few calls, will be back now no :) [07:29] now now [07:30] lol [07:46] good mornings [07:46] ohi inetpro [07:47] Kilos: I'll skip the membership thing this week... will try to attend for your meeting though [07:47] * inetpro will put my name for next month [07:47] ty inetpro i saw you didnt have time to go to your page [07:48] we will support you [08:00] wb ThatGraemeGuy [08:00] ty [08:02] hi rudi-is-me [08:20] if anyone would like to join the new Pythonistas in Namibia, we are getting them on #python-namibia [08:56] hi TinuvaMac [10:10] hi mazal [10:11] Afternoon everyone [10:13] hi Kilos [10:24] inetpro: please use my rsnyman account on trello [10:29] hi zipper [10:29] Kilos: I'm good. You? [10:29] good ty [11:27] superfly: +1 [11:43] Oom Kilos [11:43] wat? [11:43] All went well on Saturday , except all my mail in my inbox is gone [11:43] oh my [11:44] Sub folders is there though , very weird [11:44] thats why i use evolution [11:44] And I made a full backup of home and put the full home back [11:44] wow [11:45] The only thing missing is inbox mail [11:45] Sub folders in mail is there and all other apps data and configs is there [11:45] arent they still availble online [11:45] No this is a pop3 account [11:46] gmail keeps all my mails [11:46] pop or not [11:46] I have 2 accounts. Gmail one ( that stays online with imap) and a seperate pop3 account that downloads to pc [11:47] i use pop on eveo but gmails keeps all my mails till i go there and delete them [11:47] Is cos your pop3 settings is prob set not to delete on server. You can set it like that [11:47] ya [11:48] Other than that everything seems fine. I installed with my remastered iso [11:49] Works sharp on Kubuntu [11:49] lol dont let the pro hear you say that [11:49] Why ? [11:49] i made a remaster of this kde and he revved me [11:50] all you need is a well sorted backup plan iho [11:50] I never had a problem with remastersys , and I have used it for a long time. Only problem I had was now with 14.04 that needs a small tinkering on L and K to work [11:51] Ag I don't want to spend that very long time and data consuming apt-get's every time to get all software installed again. That's the main reason I do it [11:51] i didnt tunker with anything [11:52] it worked from cli fine on the gui [11:52] tinker [11:52] i like remastersys [11:53] Ya it rocks. Saves so much time and data [11:53] remastersys-gui [11:53] Nah I never used that. cli easy enough [11:53] ya man ek weet nie wat het mense teen dit nie [11:54] With this specific app cli is just much quicker way [11:55] I must just still go and look where I change brightness settings on K. It's a bit too bright on my laptop [11:56] lol [11:57] I had a quick look but couldn't find it [11:57] lemme look [11:59] Or I must change the laptop's screen itself , but that also I must still find. Should be one of the fn keys [11:59] lol [11:59] Didn't have enough time to tinker. [12:02] good afternoon [12:05] hi magespawn [12:07] Lo magespawn [12:13] whats up people? [12:13] lol not much [12:15] oh mazal Squirm nuvolari look at https://trello.com/ [12:19] What does being "functionally illiterate" mean? [12:19] haha [12:19] haha [12:55] Bye everyone , God bless [13:00] hi kulelu88 you early [13:00] Hi [13:00] yeah ek is op werk nou oom. [13:00] hoegaanit? oom Kilos [13:00] goed dankie en jy? [13:01] eks goed. [13:07] kulelu88: The language you speak right now is? [13:07] afrikaans [13:08] Kilos: If I remeber right you said people who speak this language don't use public transport? Are they usually rich or something? [13:14] lol [13:15] we speak afrikaans here as well [13:15] and many use public transport [13:16] and you sucking things out rour hat here too [13:16] your === arnaudmez is now known as arnaudmez_ [13:16] hi arnaudmez_ [13:16] hi Kilos [13:16] i'm actually having hardtime with my 3G modem [13:17] eich ... just ant to trow it out [13:17] the modem or the os or the isp [13:17] also evolution gives mes problems [13:17] oh my [13:17] kulelu88: did you see, I put an advert on gtpug [13:18] or gpug, or whatever it's called [13:18] * superfly did it from his phone this morning, so it wasn't his best effort [13:18] ISP have problems (did called and got their answer), Modem too have problems (disconecting and not displaying the registered profile sometime), bandwidth slowing down as soon as i open Evolution [13:18] arnaudmez_ zipper is a fedora user and next door to you [13:19] Kilos: I'm an arch user :D [13:19] yep i saw superfly [13:19] I just chosed to remove evolution mail for few time and maybe i will reinstall it :D [13:19] hopefully you find the right guys [13:19] oh ya [13:20] zipper: arch, Ubuntu, Fedora ... thei're all Linux for sure ... [13:20] hmm... kulelu88 you on pug thing too [13:20] hmm... [13:20] oom I must teach you a bit of social engineering ;) [13:20] kulelu88: Kilos http://lpaste.net/8629131064838717440 oh he said they don't use taxis but there is the scrollback. [13:21] oh hahaha ' [13:21] Kilos: It implied that people who spoke the lang were "special" somehow. [13:21] yikes this guy is logging our chats :-/ [13:21] rofl [13:21] kulelu88: lol not like that :( People are always logging everything [13:21] It's the internet. [13:21] maybe in ooms day taxis were safe, but no afrikaaner rides them these days [13:22] My irc client does that on its own. [13:22] i have never used a taxi in my life [13:22] kulelu88: It only logs when I'm connected so I guess you're safe :( [13:22] bikes cars and feet always worked [13:22] zipper there should be a web log somewhere [13:22] kulelu88: Who is an Afrikaaner? [13:23] oom Kilos is [13:23] kulelu88: Would you want that? I know of a tool that you can use to log all the stuff going on. [13:23] ya my name is kilos van der merwe [13:23] Kilos: Meaning Dutch like 500 years ago. [13:24] no man afrikaners are the descendants of them [13:24] zipper: the NSA is already doing it, so no need [13:24] much improved and simplified language [13:24] Kilos: Oh yeah [13:28] plus also french german welsh and who knows what else goes into making the afrikaner nation [13:33] English. a lot of english [13:33] na [13:34] hahahaha it's funny that Kilos has znever used a taxi so kulelu88 was right. [13:34] 1 or 2 [13:34] nor have I zipper [13:34] nor have some black people [13:34] kulelu88: Why? People use taxis here all the time, they're safe. [13:34] zipper i rode bicycle to school and then to work then bought a motor bike and so forth [13:35] kulelu88: True [13:35] zipper: our taxis sometimes use cardboard for brakes [13:36] rofl [13:36] kulelu88: Yeah cycling is going to be my thing too except for the non existent cycling lanes here. [13:36] we never had cycling lanes [13:36] if i cycle to anywhere here, ill die from exhaustion [13:36] still dont i think [13:36] kulelu88: Oh really? Wow uh that's unusual and probably illegal. [13:36] Kilos: A few roads have good cycling lanes. [13:37] now you know why we dont use them [13:37] Kilos: but those are newly build by the previous regime. A lot of infrastructure stuff going on here. [13:37] aha [13:43] bye bye [13:43] have to move === rudi-is-me_ is now known as rudi-is-me [15:37] rudi-is-me are you also circ-user ? [15:52] wbb reboot needed [16:16] hi Private_User hows things there lad [16:16] * Kilos needs to remember these kinda things ?? [16:44] hi Kerbero howsit [16:44] ? [16:45] Kilos: yes, it was a default user in some chrome irc app [16:45] aha [16:46] im not as look as dumb i be' [16:46] :) [16:48] rudi-is-me tell us a bit about yourself, as in where are you , where you work and what you do etc [16:48] im the nosy one [16:49] I know a Rudi, part of a LUG [16:51] no problem. I live in gp, work for myself providing all sorts of IT services [16:51] nice [16:51] hi Tonberry_ [16:51] kulelu88: LUG? I know of a WUG [16:52] hi [16:52] LUG=linux users group [16:53] we need more members in pta [16:53] ah ok, got that one totally wrong [16:55] so tell me a bit about yourself Kilos [16:55] im a bally, and stay just west of pta and do as little as possible [16:56] park here most of the day [16:56] im actually restoring my blog so you can see the first 4 episodes there [16:56] Maaz kilos.blog [16:56] Kilos: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/ [16:59] i go eat. bbl [17:27] rudi-is-me are you a member of our mailing list? [17:43] oh my inetpro where is our mailing list link in the topic bar?? [17:43] rudi-is-me ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com [17:44] kulelu88 do you have the link where one signs up? [17:44] there is a rudi in our lists iirc [17:46] don't think it's me [17:52] do you know what youve let yourself in for? [17:52] hehe [17:56] hi magespawn [17:56] just who i need [17:56] whats the link to join our mailing list please [17:56] and say hi to rudi-is-me [17:57] good evening [18:01] Kilos: you go to our website, click on "Get Involved" and there you see all the different methods to get involved [18:02] man where is the link in the topic bar [18:02] grrr [18:02] we can't have everything in the topic bar [18:02] i hope they give me a sjambok with membership [18:02] * inetpro still want to remove the twitter link as well [18:02] it was there for years === rudi-is-me_ is now known as rudi-is-me [18:02] put it back pretty please [18:03] * Kilos goes on knees [18:03] why do we have a website? [18:03] to make me browse more [18:04] please please please [18:04] dammit [18:05] rudi-is-me http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za [18:05] good evening [18:05] again [18:05] inetpro, i agree, as soon as the website has most of the details on it [18:05] sjoe that looks long [18:05] wb magespawn [18:08] magespawn: the details are on the current website now, all we need is to transfer this info to the new site [18:11] if it's not there already [18:21] big question in my mind is what do we put on the home page? [18:21] * inetpro talking about the new site at http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/ [18:22] Maaz new site is http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/ [18:22] Kilos: One learns a new thing every day [18:23] i was planning on doing some work on trello with the suggestions from the mailing list [18:24] magespawn: are you there now? [18:24] ya magespawn you must put your pic as well [18:25] ai! [18:31] wb magespawn [18:32] back again [18:32] ty [18:32] lol [18:33] Kilos: can I archive the Trello list (first list)? [18:33] whats in it? [18:35] i cant even find it [18:36] find what? [18:36] first list [18:37] Kilos: can you see what I did there? [18:37] there's pics of you guys? where? [18:37] im on one page and battling to get back to the basic thing [18:38] kulelu88: we're using Trello, you mind to join us? [18:38] i didn't know trello is free . [18:38] link? [18:38] just go to https://trello.com/ [18:38] register and set yourself a username and let me know so I can add it to our group [18:44] inetpro im here http://picpaste.com/snapshot3-byq96bNv.png [18:45] whos the old guy by "figure out how to use trello" ?? [18:45] hahaha [18:45] Kilos: ai! [18:46] cheeky [18:47] wat ai! jy man, hoe gaan ek weg daar [18:48] Kilos: you're in the right place, the first column = the first list [18:48] Website = 2nd list [18:48] New Applications = 3rd list [18:48] * inetpro wants to remove the entire "Trello LIST!!!" list [18:48] trello looks like a visual spreadsheet basically [18:49] ya you can archive first list [18:49] trello list [18:49] done [18:50] kulelu88: I've seen others calling it collaborative virtual sticky note software [18:51] aah [18:51] cant pinterest do the same thing [18:51] can it? I have no idea [18:52] forget other stuffs we doing this thing now [18:53] kulelu88 i dont see you there yet [18:53] * inetpro still waiting for magespawn and kulelu88 to join us [18:53] i wont be able to assist tonight. i'm "at work" right now [18:53] ah ok [18:54] any excuse is better than none [18:54] i soon plan on working at the beach :D [18:54] lekker [18:54] natal beach i hope [18:55] no ways, gonna do a bit of nomad travelling (i hope) [18:55] ah nice [18:56] lappy and a solar charger you are made [18:56] where are you at work now?? [18:58] Maaz seen gremble [18:58] Kilos: gremble was last seen 5 days, 23 hours, 18 minutes and 56 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-27 11:39:24 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-01-27 12:08:34 PST [18:59] Maaz tell gremble http://clicks.slashdot.org/c.html?ufl=4&rtr=on&s=x8pb08,255li,54g,b4qn,6ss2,65az,2s7v [18:59] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell gremble on freenode [18:59] i work as a contractor [19:00] this is like sucking blood out of a stone [19:00] any programmers here? [19:01] hi superfly i sent you that mail because hopefully we can get you one [19:02] kulelu88 say what you want programmed or checked out man [19:03] your question is like standing in a bottle store and asking any drinkers here [19:03] in php, the "?" character = SPACE . What does the "&" character equal?? [19:05] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2422907/what-does-the-sign-mean-in-php [19:06] This will force the variable to be passed by reference. Normally, a hard copy would be created for simple types. This can come handy for large strings (performance gain) or if you want to manipulate the variable without using the return statement, [19:06] hehe ek is so slim ne [19:07] oooo hoe lekker lag ek nou [19:10] Kilos: you really do not have a PrSc button on your keyboard? [19:11] or rather PrtSc [19:11] let me get the magnifying glass and look [19:11] ya just left of scroll lock [19:12] what happens when you press that? [19:12] ill try remember that ty inetpro [19:12] ya same as ksnapshot [19:12] ai! [19:12] wat nou? [19:13] please remember that now [19:13] its got tiny writing man [19:13] it's so easy to press man [19:13] and sysRq under print screen [19:13] teach your finger to go there [19:13] hahaha [19:23] join? [19:25] sorry fell asleep there for a bit [19:26] lol [19:27] join at trello [19:31] inetpro how do you see who is online there [19:32] okay logged in [19:33] Kilos: look at the icons of members [19:33] magespawn: cool, now please tell us about your latest ideas [19:33] ah ty [19:33] magespawn get your pic there === SDCDev is now known as St[3]baS === St[3]baS is now known as St2baS [19:36] lol [19:37] what are you doing St2baS [19:37] lol messing with St3baS :P [19:37] one of my friends [19:37] lol [19:37] I should tell him to come here, he's cool [19:38] does he use linux? === St2baS is now known as |2ynomster [19:38] <|2ynomster> yea he installed ubuntu today :) [19:39] <|2ynomster> lol he started working for my company today :P [19:39] <|2ynomster> first day on the job [19:39] well duh! invite him man [19:39] hi St3baS [19:39] <|2ynomster> hi St3baS [19:39] welcome to ubuntu-za [19:40] <|2ynomster> St3baS, Kilos is cool :) he can tell you more than google about ubuntu :D [19:40] hahaha [19:40] inetpro still trying to get the brain into gear [19:40] whats your company? | [19:40] |2ynomster: [19:41] <|2ynomster> its a programming company :) === |2ynomster is now known as Rynomster [19:42] I think it was people in this room who convinced me to stop working for the man :p [19:42] dont feel shy to promo the name, Rynomster [19:43] hehe its called Lunatech :P but you won't find stuff about it in the internet :) well not our company anywayz :> [19:43] so far just word of mouth [19:43] i hope you're not another joomla/wordpress shop [19:43] no :P hahaha [19:43] we dont do websites :P [19:44] dont really like php either... its not a real language [19:44] * Rynomster ducks for cover [19:44] web apps in ruby/C#/Java? [19:44] iirc there is/was only one person here that likes php [19:45] Python mostly :P but yea I like Ruby too :) [19:45] Rynomster: i think most of the people who programme here will agree with that [19:45] awee a python shop. [19:45] also do C && C++ [19:46] I cant slander php, all those fuckups in that language are my bread and butter [19:46] hahaha :D [19:46] sjoe kulelu88 language [19:47] i have a gentle disposition [19:47] Rynomster: Are you outsourcing work yet? [19:47] oom we need to take you to sunnyside to a house club and get you your youth back :P [19:47] kulelu88: I been on holiday for like very long :| was outsourcing working last year when I had too much, now we gotta find work again :P [19:47] hahaha [19:48] holiday? like chilling and doing nothing? [19:48] just busy doing a release upgrade on the machines [19:48] yeeeaaahh haha :P well travelling I guess :) [19:50] * inetpro done for the evening [19:51] good night [19:51] gn inetpro [19:51] enlighten us where you went to RYn [19:51] Rynomster: [19:51] night inetpro sleep tight [19:52] Drakensburg, Durban, Scottburgh, iFafa, Southport, Uvongo, Margate, Ramsgate, Port Edward, Port St Johns, Coffee Bay, Hogsback, Port Elizabeth, now I'm in Jbay :) [19:53] I was expecting: thailand, malaysia, maldives, italy, spain, greece :-/ [19:53] haha [19:53] but that sounds like east coast. [19:53] lol :P nah :) just travelling through our country :D [19:53] ya natal and down [19:53] catch a wave and your sitting on top of the world [19:54] lol North Coast, South Coast, Eastern Cape :) still going for a few more weeks :P but will be working along the way now :) [19:54] you must look for clients along the way [19:55] yea I have been :) not really hard though... loads of people want websites... lol [19:55] i think i could do that, but ja, where to stay [19:55] loads of people also only want to pay R500 for websites :-/ [19:56] what do websites cost? [19:56] my site was free [19:56] ty yola [19:57] that's exactly why [19:58]