[08:20] good morning === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|brb === rmescandon|brb is now known as rmescandon === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|brb === rmescandon|brb is now known as rmescandon === marcoceppi_ is now known as marcoceppi-sast === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|lunch === rmescandon|lunch is now known as rmescandon === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [15:15] is there a session today? [15:17] AkivaAvraham, yep, starting in 43m AFAIK [15:17] dholbach, cool whos on today? Bzoltan? [15:17] balloons in any case :) [15:18] oh balloons is awesome! [15:23] yes :) [15:52] names [15:52] o/ [15:53] Hi. I want to create my desktop application for Ubuntu. But I can't find tutorial how I can do it. [15:53] Please, help me. [15:54] o/ AkivaAvraham [15:54] justCarakas1, hey! === justCarakas1 is now known as justCarkas [15:54] I have a question for Ubuntu team: Will you ever drop Unity for PCs - because it is designed for use on friggin tablets? [15:54] how is the coffee hangover AkivaAvraham [15:55] justCarkas, oh that was a wacked out night. I handle tea much better [15:55] Hi. I want to create my desktop application for Ubuntu. But I can't find tutorial how I can do it. [15:55] bots... [15:55] cipiripper, hey when it starts up, you need to append all questions you have with "QUESTION: " that will signal to them that there is a question that needs answering [15:56] AkivaAvraham: tea is the beverage of sophisticated people [15:56] is there no live stream?? [15:56] mixailflash, hey after the session come to #ubuntu-app-devel, and i'll walk you through it. [15:56] tim-on-ubuntu: not yet, 5 mins [15:56] it starts in 4 minutes apparently [15:56] * balloons lets the excitement build [15:56] balloons is apparently running it [15:56] ok, thx! [15:57] you'll get mhall119 and myself live in a few moments [15:57] :-) [15:57] tuuu tadatata tadatatata tadatatataaaa datatatatatataaaaaa the final count down [15:57] err moments = minutes [15:58] 2 minutes whooooo [15:58] In unity interface when will you make it more configurable to put taskbar at bottom like in windows ?? [15:58] Hi [15:58] hello [15:58] \o/ [15:58] hi [15:58] sktguha, Start your question with "QUESTION" to signal that you're asking a question [15:59] 30 [15:59] 20 [15:59] 10 [15:59] 9 [15:59] 8 [15:59] lol justCarkas [15:59] 7 [15:59] 6 [15:59] 5 [15:59] 4 [15:59] 3 [15:59] 2 [15:59] 1 [16:00] \o\ [16:00] "Starting Soon...." [16:00] \o/ [16:00] /o/ === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to Ubuntu on Air! || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/OWD4uc || Ask your questions at ubuntuonair.com || Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UbuntuOnAir || Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: http://youtube.com/UbuntuOnAir || Current Session: Community Team Q&A - Speakers: mhall119, dpm, popey, balloons, dholbach [16:00] Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/03/%23ubuntu-on-air.html following the conclusion of the session. [16:00] im so exited, and I just can't hide it [16:01] *\o/* [16:01] I'm about to lose control and I think I like it [16:01] o_O [16:01] yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:01] party hard, live stream harder [16:01] AkivaAvraham: my turn for a sugar overdose :p [16:02] http://media.giphy.com/media/p5PbvWBuugpUI/giphy.gif [16:02] lol [16:02] that ain't right, man [16:02] QUESTION: So mhall119 you live in the USA, does that mean you won't be able to get one of the phones they're releasing? [16:02] Question: should bug #1 be extended with Android? [16:02] question time, we're live! [16:03] imnichol, I'm in china if anyone wants the meizu. [16:03] we see you [16:03] QUESTION: One for balloons: do you have pics of those 111 trees? [16:03] cfhowlett, can I set it up on the Sprint USA networks? Because if so that would rock [16:03] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/globaljam === lukas is now known as Gadileth [16:03] whooohoooo mhall119 on ubuntu-on-air clap your hands whooohoooo [16:03] imnichol, as I understand it, it'll be unlocked so ... [16:04] QUESTION: There were plans to get a rolling release suite (devel), any news on that? [16:04] cfhowlett, Don't they use different frequencies though? [16:04] I should have a sugar test connected to chatting in irc :p the higher the sugar the less I can type [16:04] QUESTION: any plans for Ubuntu snappy Desktop? [16:04] balloons, oh.. and speaking of UGJ: advertise https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Snappy please :) [16:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [16:04] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/globaljam/ [16:04] linkys ^^ [16:05] QUESTION sooooo The new raspberry pi, does it run ubuntu next / phone / whatsInAName [16:05] imnichol, all modern unlocked phones have multiple frequencies. the "international" versions of unlocked phones should include gsm. china uses a variant, but the uphone should be gsm friendly for global use [16:05] cfhowlett, thanks! [16:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Snappy [16:06] yes yes yes :) [16:06] the great thing is: in the beginning you don't even need a device, you can play around with it using kvm too [16:06] QUESTION Let´s talk about the ubuntu phone... what can we expect from bq? [16:06] ubuntu snappy = http://i.giphy.com/V61ogXFB3vPVe.gif [16:07] QUESTION: what will happen to Ubuntu Software Center in Ubuntu 16.04? [16:07] What other distro do you use? What are your thoughts on Arch ? [16:07] hello...godd morning/afternoon/evening [16:07] QUESTION: When will the ubuntu phone porting guide be updated? [16:07] QUESTION how does the BQ phone hold up to the nexus 4, is it wurth the upgrade ? [16:08] Does ubuntu collect personnal informations from our PCs ? [16:08] no === Armenia is now known as ArmenianUbuntu === hi is now known as Guest1809 [16:09] Only thing I am waiting for is Ubuntu phone OS in my device...Just need a guide to setup in motorola moto g [16:09] All there is is android if you aren't Apple [16:09] If you're an OEM or ODM, your _only_ option really is Android [16:10] QUSTION: can we haz more fat click packages? not all apps are available on x86 [16:10] soopadoopa: +1 [16:10] @Guest1809 How to make sure ? not all the source code is available [16:10] Hi all! QUESTION: How much in your opinion is Compiz responsible for the actual rise of GNU/Linux and Android in current days [16:11] Thank you for the answer, Michael Hall, Nicolas Skagge [16:12] QUESTION Can we expect a collaboration with cyanogenmod for something like ubuntu for android/cyanogenmod? [16:13] QUESTION: How will you ensure that updates are delivered promptly on Ubuntu Touch? [16:13] QUESTION:Will Cononical make a game consol,like an ubuntu steam os edition [16:14] isn't "devel" a symlink that's there? [16:14] dholbach: Does that work? :D [16:14] I mean, wasn't it experimental? [16:14] never tried it [16:14] ^^ :D [16:14] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/ [16:14] :) [16:14] worth checking out :-P [16:14] QUESTION:Are there any plans to implement a profile system for easy migration(apps, settings, etc) between devices? [16:14] :) [16:15] dholbach: yeah, even the PPA's have it, but the question is, it was never officially announced, so how reliable is it :P [16:15] does anyone use it, etc [16:15] QUESTION: I heard there is a new Package Type. We have Debian Packages, Click Packages, and now something else? Whats the reason for this new package? [16:15] shadeslayer, if you try it, let me know how it goes :-P [16:15] erm ignore that [16:15] heh :D [16:15] Hi! Currently unity 8 apps on the desktops looks like mobile apps. Will they be modified to look like classic desktop apps? Will they be able to recognize DPI? [16:16] :) [16:16] QUESTION: (duplicate) Hi! Currently unity 8 apps on the desktops looks like mobile apps. Will they be modified to look like classic desktop apps? Will they be able to recognize DPI? [16:16] QUESTION:When will work begin on the tablet to get it up to RTM quality? [16:17] QUESTION:When or will ubuntu come with pacman? [16:17] u can search google for pacman for Linuux [16:17] QUESTION: [16:18] QUESTION: Any word on a north american phone? [16:18] beisheim ubuntu comes with apt,I've tried to install pacman in ubuntu but I couldn't find anything.Arch linux comes with it [16:19] hahaha [16:19] Does the media player app support mp4? [16:19] glad to see mhall119 is cruising :) [16:19] talky okay [16:19] Knightmare: x264, yes. [16:19] Cool thanks popey [16:20] QUESTION:Are you illuminaty? [16:20] ? [16:21] Is there a central place to understand how snappy / juju / LXD / ... interact ? [16:21] QUESTION: Will flash be depricated from Ubuntu? If yes; how will you do ubuntu-on-air?? [16:22] Will it be possible to install third-party click-files on ubuntu touch without going throw the command line (i.e. like an Android, where it's possible to activate the option "allow installation from third party sources") [16:22] from where they send Ubuntu On Air? [16:22] AkivaAvraham HTML5 can do the same things that flash can [16:23] talky, no it can't. HTML5 can't stream [16:23] youtube uses flash to stream [16:23] danielbe, append "QUESTION: " to your question and ask again. Otherwise they wont' see it [16:24] AkivaAvraham, sure html5 can do flash content. [16:24] OerHeks, but not streaming. [16:24] AkivaAvraham it also uses HTML 5.The mobile version uses html 5 and browser version will do it soon [16:24] Question: Will it be possible to install third-party click-files on ubuntu touch without going throw the command line (i.e. like an Android, where it's possible to activate the option "allow installation from third party sources") [16:24] QUESTION:Are there any plans for the document viewer to support epub? [16:24] talky, but not for streaming. [16:24] QUESTION: Will it be possible to install third-party click-files on ubuntu touch without going throw the command line (i.e. like an Android, where it's possible to activate the option "allow installation from third party sources") [16:24] danielbe, yep good job :) [16:24] yeah [16:25] AkivaAvraham Its am matter of time,they will, [16:25] .... [16:25] QUESTION: any schedule for a Meizu phone ? (nothing announce on 2015/01/28) [16:25] talky, maybe. I don't know the architecture framework. [16:26] beisheim, from their home(s) [16:26] QUESTION how is the battery life on the BQ ? [16:26] i hope its good [16:26] balloons, take pictures of your trees and your garden! [16:26] :) [16:27] nice back!!!!!!! [16:27] AkivaAvraham http://www.pcgamer.com/youtube-ditches-flash-for-html5-as-default-player/ [16:27] :-) [16:27] i have a g too ;) [16:27] talky, ah! [16:27] mhall119: my nexus 4 has its 4th screen atm :) backglass has never broken for me :p [16:27] :))))))) [16:28] balloons: needs sdk support, stat! [16:29] QUESTION: Will we have to bundle a python interpreter with every app that uses python, or will we eventually have a shared interpreter any app can use? [16:29] here's the bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1398104 [16:29] QUESTION: can you advertise the events on ubuntuonair further ahead of time? I always seem to find out an hour before they happen [16:29] thanks :D [16:30] balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1395204 is fixed! [16:30] dholbach, indeed, ty for that! [16:30] thats not the bug surely? [16:30] from where do you send the stream? [16:30] or were we talking about a different bug? [16:30] the sdk doesn't build multi-arch packages [16:30] thats the bug that should be fixed [16:31] zbenjamin, ^ do you know about multi-arch improvements in the sdk? is there a bug for it? [16:32] bye bye [16:32] imnichol, lol I got banned from #ubuntu for advertising it, literally once. [16:32] QUESTION:Will ubuntu one cloud storage return now that the phone is coming [16:33] AkivaAvraham, aren't you an Ubuntu member? [16:33] QUESTION: Hi Michael, is there any update regarding Meizu and Ubuntu on phones? [16:33] imnichol, not yet :P [16:33] Sounds good [16:33] I vote for canonical giving AkivaAvraham a job [16:34] Hey, just joined. Have people already asked about Unity8? [16:34] justCarkas, i'm not good enough of a programmer yet :P [16:34] redlama42, ask again :) [16:34] imnichol: http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/ [16:34] AkivaAvraham: yeah, don't do that. #ubuntu is for support, not marketing. [16:35] PaulW2U, yah but that is not updated mhall119 [16:35] mhall119, http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/ needs to be updated :P [16:35] Will we ever be able to buy Landscape without a full support contract? [16:36] dakira, you need to append "QUESTION: " to that, otherwise they won't see it [16:36] QUESTION: Will we ever be able to buy Landscape without a full support contract? [16:36] QUESTION: Do you plan to support devices that aren't officially intended to run Ubuntu Touch (e.g. Nexus devices, HTC, LG, etc.) or will it just be left to the community? [16:36] AkivaAvraham: thanks ;) [16:36] Akiva, was my question framed correctly? [16:36] !cookie | dakira [16:37] ubuntu-user, erm.... sec [16:37] ubuntu-user, yessum! [16:37] Avikva, thanks mate :-) [16:37] yes [16:38] restrictions? [16:39] Nothing_Much, yah by app armor [16:39] QUESTION: Will snappy assist Ubuntu on the desktop getting up-to-date end user programs eg. VLC et al? [16:39] QUESTION: How customizable is the Unity 8 UI? Will I finally be able to set a .gif or video as a wallpaper? [16:39] Nothing_Much, so for example; if your click app uses python code, you can't use the python intepreter in your phone. [16:39] you have to bundle your own python interpreter. [16:40] redlama42, lol! I think you could already do that. XWinWrap allowed you to set screensavers as backgrounds. === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|brb [16:40] AkivaAvraham: oh okay, so that restriction is for bringing in your own library thing, right? [16:41] Nothing_Much, yah there are a few things. Its basically sandboxing your app in, so you don't have to rely as much on dependencies, and so it is safer. [16:41] Will be much more secure than android afaik [16:41] AkivaAvraham: yes [16:41] Nothing_Much, i'm not an android dev so I can't say that with any authority. How about yourself? [16:42] AkivaAvraham: Nah, it doesn't work right. It stays above the launcher unless their is a program running above it. [16:42] AkivaAvraham: idk i'm not a dev at all lol [16:42] go nik90 ! [16:42] hai [16:42] redlama42, oh you've tried xwinwrap? [16:42] harry_, hi o/ [16:42] AkivaAvraham: Yea. [16:43] redlama42, ah :< too bad [16:43] units.gu() for the win! [16:43] QUESTION from what date can we order the BQ phone [16:44] justCarckas, I believe it's meant to be the 6th of this month :-) [16:44] QUESTION: When can we expect an x86 Tablet image [16:44] isantop, i heard there already is one by intel [16:45] AkivaAvraham: intel are not making ubuntu tablet images [16:45] ikonia, its intel architecture thats what I mean [16:45] AkivaAvraham: that wasn't the question [16:45] wouldn't the regular Ubuntu image work on an x86 tablet? [16:46] :D [16:46] Iluminarty? [16:46] AkivaAvraham: since you are helping ppl, if you see my concentration, plz send it back [16:46] ubuntu-user, good question :P [16:46] ubuntu-user: It does, but it takes a lot of work to make it tablet-able. It still isn't quite there. [16:46] yes we need flash [16:46] :C [16:46] once Unity 8 is default then hopefully regular Ubuntu will detect and adjust [16:46] on installation [16:46] HTML5 video doesn't work for streaming yet :( [16:47] so a custom spin shouldn't be required [16:47] mhall119: just tried it out :) you still need flash [16:47] AkivaAvraham, see, flash can do streaming. [16:47] OerHeks, alas you are right [16:47] What about homestar runner?! [16:47] That's depressing [16:47] only for youtube though [16:47] AkivaAvraham: Homestar Runner needs to die if they still use Flash [16:47] is there not someone from the ubuntu project in control of this session ? [16:47] no, I don't think the security team would like that [16:48] ahhh there is [16:48] Nothing_Much, opensource greg won't like that. [16:48] greg? === rmescandon|brb is now known as rmescandon [16:49] Nothing_Much, sec... http://www.homestarrunner.com/4gregs.html [16:49] yes, ubuntu on air works on ubuntu phone http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2015-02-03-164658.png :D [16:49] QUESTION:Is cononical planong on releasing it's custom graphical backend [16:49] full screen too! http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2015-02-03-164737.png [16:49] popey: is that recorded or live? [16:49] its live [16:50] woah [16:50] I'm watching along with you [16:50] QUESTION: Do you know if BQ will offer international shipping for the Ubuntu phone? [16:50] justCarkas: that sucks, replacing the front glass is exponentially worse than the back [16:50] popey, woah that is very cool [16:50] mhall119: I have the tools :) so I can do it myself, and once you did it twice, its not that hard anymore :p [16:50] * Nothing_Much disables ppapi [16:51] wut [16:51] o.o [16:51] no flash on my ubuntu phone :D [16:51] maybe it only works on the youtube website itself? [16:51] QUESTION: In the same way we have desktop porn, will users be able to modify the way UT looks to create UTporn? [16:51] OMG [16:51] OKay [16:52] So it IS the fact that you can only view live streams on Youtube itself [16:52] Not the embedded "ubuntuonair.com" website :( [16:52] mhall119, it doesnt! [16:52] QUESTION: how do snappy / docker / juju / click packages / deb packages / apt works together ? What is the big plan, I feel confused nowdays... [16:54] here's the info on landscape up to 10 machines: http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use [16:55] mhall119: Yeah.. I know that. but I have ~100 hosts and only want Landscape but not the full support contract. [16:55] Nothing_Much: I'm sure we can fix that :) [16:56] dakira, have you spoken with someone about trying to get landscape only? [16:56] redlama42, :P [16:56] popey: i think it's a problem with youtube, since every embedded youtube video on a website doesn't work with html5, it's limited to actually BEING on Youtube itself [16:56] Nice. [16:56] still, amazingly awesome, now we need twitch and other livestreaming websites to adopt it [16:57] and we can finally stop using Flash [16:57] I need to figure out the compile error i'm getting so I can start hacking on it. [16:57] and it will die horrendously [16:57] balloons: like who? Thing is, it's a non-profit child-rescue service, so they won't be able to spend much more then a low 3-digit number.. [16:58] balloons: so the full per-device support contract is out of the question. [16:58] Right now the only problem I have is the on-screen keyboard. Thanks for the insight, though! [16:58] QUESTION: Opinions on glNext? [16:59] is that OpenGLNext? [16:59] Yea. [16:59] It needs to be released before DirectX 12 [16:59] It absolutely NEEDS to be released before it [16:59] looks like I need to make friends with some more Europeans :-P [16:59] oh gosh.... [17:00] AkivaAvraham: I can be your european friend :p [17:00] :D === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to Ubuntu on Air! || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/OWD4uc || Ask your questions at ubuntuonair.com || Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UbuntuOnAir || Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: http://youtube.com/UbuntuOnAir || [17:00] how to get started ubuntu phone development where ask for help [17:00] but what about me :-( [17:00] maqbool, #ubuntu-app-devel [17:00] you 2 ubuntu-user :) [17:01] maqbool, i'll help you get started right after this session ends [17:01] justCarkas, what country are you from? [17:01] #snappy [17:01] maqbool: http://developer.ubuntu.com [17:02] OpenGL is awesome - Balloons [17:02] QUESTION:will cononical virtualize th desktop [17:02] talky, I think your too late! [17:02] dakira, it would be worth asking I suppose to see what pricing they would have for a non-profit, even with ubuntu advantage and the full support [17:02] that was fun [17:02] I should come here more often [17:03] :) [17:03] yes indeed :) ubuntu-user [17:03] ubuntu-user, please do! [17:03] AkivaAvraham :( [17:03] well my work day is over :D so cya :) [17:03] justCarkas, o/ [17:03] o/ AkivaAvraham [17:03] ciao [17:03] o/ [17:03] o/ ubuntu-user [17:03] cu! thanks for the excellent questions everyone [17:03] !cookies [17:03] thx balloons and mhall119 for your time [17:03] darn; where is that ubottu when you need it? [17:04] maqbool, come to #ubuntu-app-devel irc channel [17:04] maqbool, /join #ubuntu-app-devel if you are one the webclient [17:05] alright, I'm off too. Cya gents :-) === zan is now known as Guest67112 [17:16] QUESTION: Will Ubuntu package parental time controls like Windows 7 has? there are a couple open source ones that are no longer supported. [17:19] QUESTION: Will Ubuntu ever integrate a Parental Controls with time limitations solution similar to what Windows 7 has? [17:19] Peter-02760, too late slowpoke ;_; [17:19] next week though, and good question! [17:20] QUESTION : If I use docker and I use two application who use the same library (Qt for example) is this library loaded two time ? [17:21] Pratrax, too late :P [17:21] Arf [17:21] Pratrax, good question though. Unfortunately the session ended :( [17:21] Someone know the answer [17:21] , [17:21] ?* [17:22] I do not, but try #ubuntu-touch maybe? [17:23] Do you know when is the next session ? [17:24] (which hours) [17:32] balloons, popey mhall119 can you guys get bzoltan and zbenjamin on next week to talk about the sdk? [17:33] AkivaAvraham, anything specific you'd like to talk about? [17:33] balloons, mmmm I just think bzoltan is a funny guy. That and this: http://i.imgur.com/6eJt30x.png [17:34] maybe the week after next week. I'd also like to hear what they have been up to, including Go projects and what have you [17:34] AkivaAvraham, great. We'll try and get them scheduled [17:35] balloons, thanks [17:48] are there any plans to make an easier way to create shortcuts in Unity? === raja is now known as Guest71183 [19:47] o herro [19:49] (I hope this is okay to do, if not, feel free to smack my hands). mhall119 - I'm catching up on the on-air that happened earlier. I'm curious if I could ask you a relevant question about something you touched on during the on-air. [21:25] Hello from the littlebox on ubuntuonair.com! [21:26] I have a question about Ubuntu phone from bq. Anyone knows if they'll be available soon? [21:31] iGNUcius: http://carla-sella.blogspot.co.uk/ might give you some clues :) [21:34] PaulW2U: Thanks, reading :) [21:42] Another question. Is an option to buy a Nexus and install Ubuntu on it? I mean, can I have an Ubuntu phone 100% buying a Nexus? Because the bq hardware is a bit low for some people. But I have a bit of fear buying something with no official support (like the bq, coming with Ubuntu directly). [21:42] Thanks for your time. [21:54] will ubuntu 15.04 USD kernel 3.19?