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diego7319hi03:00
diego7319i cant run ubuntu emulator because this developer tools are not installed03:01
diego7319_hi?03:09
diego7319_at least anyone can say hi03:09
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ogra_cyphermox, usb tethering weorks fine on krillin (there are NM snippets that "android-gadget-service enable rndis" puts in place) it seems to just not work on any other devices08:24
marrabldhello, could someone please explain to me how I can install apps on to my touch device.  I am running Nexus 4 Ubuntu 141.04 r303 via the android dual boot app.08:43
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meriteneAbout release 74 and all of the following my smartphone (Nexus 4) gives me the message "no network" despite it detect the carrier.09:15
jgdxmeritene, could you file a bug?09:26
jgdxmeritene, if you have shell access to your phone, maybe attach the syslog and other relevant bits?09:26
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Eileen Collins Day! :-D09:33
meritenejgdx, thanks a lot...but I don't what shell access is precisely09:36
meritenejgdx, thanks a lot...but I don't know what shell access is precisely09:36
amehi09:54
amecan anybody tell me why i cannot find my mobile model number MOTO E for installing ubuntu??09:55
jgdxmeritene, basically enabling developer mode on your phone (Settings -> About -> developer mode), setting a password, installing adb on your desktop and connecting it to your phone via usb. Then write adb shell on your desktop. More info https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ and a lot of other places :)09:57
jgdxmeritene, if you create a bug, however, the one it gets assigned to will request information, so a bug is great place to start.09:58
tsdgeosmardy: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/remove_declared_undefined/+merge/24834309:58
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gcollurawhy do I have to have the phone unlocked to use adb on it? (like adb shell or adb push) otherwise adb just returns "error: closed"10:14
gcolluraI have the latest rtm, with the previous one this annoyance didn't occur10:15
meritenejgdx, thank you very much: I'll try...10:16
ameCan anybody of here tell me can i install ubuntu on mobile...Am very much eager to use ubuntu on my mobile10:18
popeygcollura: security, I could grab the phone from your desk and plug into my laptop, adb shell in a delete your data10:20
gcollurapopey, is there any "whitelist" to allow my pc as trusted?10:22
popeydon't think so.10:23
popeyyou can enable SSH though, and ssh in?10:23
gcollurapopey, yeah but click-buddy uses adb push to push click packages into the device10:24
popeyyeah, it's annoying. maybe have the lock period longer on your device?10:24
tsdgeosmardy: and another one https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/54_tests/+merge/24835110:24
popeysystem settings -> security & privacy -> phone locking -> Never :)10:25
gcollurapopey, android has a security protocol to allow certain computers to connect to the device when plugged10:25
popeysounds like a feature request!10:25
gcollurapopey, http://imgur.com/a/1F3jB here's how android behave in this situation10:31
popeygcollura: yeah, we should do similar10:31
nhainesogra_: I just wanted to say that I'm both fascinated (to see what the solution will be) and also incredibly impressed with your patience with 左宝柱 over on the mailing list.  :)10:50
ogra_haha10:51
ogra_well, i'm curious :)10:51
popeycan someone else confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1417487 pls?10:51
ubot5Launchpad bug 1417487 in Ubuntu Terminal App "Long press copy/paste conflicts with long press scroll" [Undecided,New]10:51
nhainesAs someone who doesn't have any low-level hardware knowledge but is coveting a Raspberry Pi 2, I'm learning a lot about troubleshooting.  That I will hopefully never have to use, haha.10:52
ogra_there is a working snappy image for the RPi210:52
nhainesYeah, an official one.10:53
ogra_still alpha (snappy update and roolback wont work yet) but it will get fixes10:53
nhainesWhich frankly, sounds like the thing that will ensure snappy's success.10:53
ogra_well, snappys success will be that it only takes ~1day to get it running on a yet unsupported board :)10:54
ogra_(me at least ... seems 左宝柱 isnt that lucky yet :) )10:54
nhainesNot trending well so far based on the ML. ;)  But hopefully soon!10:54
nhaineshaha, right!  :)10:55
nhainespopey: did you want that to be tested with the terminal reboot?10:55
popeynhaines: yes, which is the default terminal now. (although might not be on your nexus 4)10:55
ogra_the point is that if you have images for all possible boards out there you have some kind of standard that works on all of them ... that will be snappys success10:55
nhainespopey: Nexus 5.  :)10:55
chrischi, is there, by any chance, anyone around who might be able to help be get a debian chroot running on ubuntu touch? https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10948.html10:55
nhainesogra_: oh, of course.  But Raspberry Pi 2 is probably a good stab at supporting something that's ubiquitous.10:56
ogra_yep10:56
nhainespopey: can confirm.10:58
popeythanks10:58
nhainespopey: I me too'd it but if you'd like me to mark it confirmed or such let me know.10:58
popeynhaines: that'll do, thanks10:59
popeyjust making sure it's not local madness on my part :)10:59
nhainesNot sure that's mutually exclusive, but at least it's a real bug.  ;)11:00
popeyheh11:00
nhainesOkay, I'd better get back to work.  :)11:02
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mardytsdgeos: sorry, I missed your pings. The MPs look fine, I'll get them merged, thanks!11:41
tsdgeosmardy: cool :)11:42
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tsdgeosMirv: how blocking is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/+bug/1387537 for a potential 5.4 migration? is it a *must* or *nice* to have?11:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 1387537 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "Oxide should provide an interface to avoid webbrowser-app / online-accounts using private Qt headers" [Undecided,Incomplete]11:43
tsdgeosbecause i don't think i can tackle that one by myself11:43
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Mirvtsdgeos: it's not blocking at all, *nice* that is12:09
Mirvso that in the future we wouldn't need to do manual patching of a couple of lines in 5+ packages12:10
Mirvsince everyone tends to copy that same private header usage currently12:10
tsdgeosyeah12:10
tsdgeosok then so then there's only https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1408273 left it seems (plus the two i've patches on the pipeline for)12:10
ubot5Launchpad bug 1408273 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "tst_qvariant fails when enabling tests in qtbase 5.4.0" [Undecided,New]12:10
Mirvtsdgeos: 1408273 fix is there already (marking), bug #1403582 in general is the real thing.. I've needed to disable many QWidget tests so far, but for touch of course that maybe isn't a blocker12:12
ubot5bug 1403582 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Re-enable normal tests enablement in qtbase for Qt 5.4" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140358212:12
Mirvtsdgeos: I'm trying to run autopilot tests now, and filing then bugs for regressions there. initially not catastrophic, hopefully nothing serious.12:13
Mirvfor example a full pass for unity8 + uitk now gotten. ubuntu-system-settings almost completely fails, but I haven't got yet the comparison "without PPA" results.12:13
tsdgeosMirv: oki12:16
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jgdxWellark_, do you know why indicator-network fails to build [1]? Something about signatures? [1] https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-015-1-build/125/console12:29
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jdstrandgcollura, popey: re certain computers> that is actually the plan in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings/ProtectingUserData13:41
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gcollurajdstrand, thanks!13:55
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muyiscoiHi guys! I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu Touch install on a Nexus 414:45
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Wellark_jgdx: there is an unused variable in one of the files, but I have no idea how that can have slipped through14:46
jgdxWellark_, u fix plz?14:46
Wellark_jgdx: hmm.. it's been there since the mid of december14:47
Wellark_maybe g++ has had a new version and the old one didn't catch it14:47
Wellark_jgdx: will fix14:47
jgdxkiiiiitos14:48
muyiscoiI can't seem to join the wifi network at my university. We use "eduroam" which is a network several schools use, especially in europe. It requires a username and password to login, unlike traditional wifi networks that just use the wifi key.14:48
chriscmuyiscoi: try using a web browser to enter that?14:48
jgdxWellark_, I'm fixing the racyness in your ofonoactivator in hopes that it will be able to activate a connection on the modem using a functioning context.14:48
jgdxWellark_, but any other suggestions will also be showered with thanks14:49
Tassadarchrisc: eduroam uses 802.1x authentication, you need to enter username and login to connect to the network. I don't think ubuntu touch supports that yet14:50
muyiscoiTassadar: exactly!14:50
Tassadarit might be just missing the GUI though, not sure14:51
muyiscoiIs there no way around that? like a command line way of connecting14:53
dobeymuyiscoi: can you connect via network manager on ubuntu on a laptop for example?14:54
muyiscoidobey: yes, it works via network manager on ubuntu desktop. That's what I'm using right now14:54
popeycan you do "phablet-network" to copy the config over?14:55
popey(from desktop to phone over usb cable)14:56
dobeymuyiscoi: then it seems like just a matter of having the necessary UI and/or back-end work done for the phone interface. if you have the config stored on your PC you can probably copy it over and use it to connect to the same ESSID from the phone14:56
dobeyas popey just suggested :)14:56
muyiscoilet me try that14:57
dobeyif it's possible to use 'nmcli' to connect to that network, you can also try using that on the phone as it seems to be installed as well14:58
dobeyi don't know if it has the ability to provide all the necessary info though14:59
Wellark_jgdx: it was not "my ofonoactivator", but no matter :)14:59
jgdxWellark_, ah. Speaking of which, is he available?14:59
Wellark_jgdx: who?15:00
jgdxWellark_, satoris15:01
muyiscoipopey: tried using "phablet-network" and got "Network file is /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/eduroam15:01
muyiscoiCould neither find WEP nor WPA-PSK key !"15:01
Wellark_jgdx: try ping him on internal irc, should be there15:02
popeywe have a bug for this, it's known broken I think.15:02
kenvandinemandel, any progress on the check_hash branch?15:07
mandelkenvandine, yes, sorry proposing in a few, I was ill and the end of last week and did no do much, sorry15:07
kenvandinemandel, thx15:08
muyiscoiThat's too bad15:09
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dobeymuyiscoi: i don't know what phablet-network does exactly, but you can try just using "adb push" to copy it to the phone, and putting it in the same location, then rebooting and choosing the network15:16
muyiscoidobey: Tried that. I keep getting "permission denied" even though I'm using sudo15:29
Wellark_jgdx: add this to the vivid silo to get rid of the i-network build failure: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/indicator-network/remove_unused_variable/+merge/24839315:29
dobeymuyiscoi: push it to "." on the phone, then use phablet-shell or the terminal app on the phone to "sudo cp" the file to the right place15:30
muyiscoidobey: succesfully copied the config file onto the phone but it still does the same thing. Guess there's a larger issue here15:36
dobeyok15:38
dobeymuyiscoi: i'd suggest filing a bug about your use case not being supported on the phone15:38
muyiscoidobey: where would I do that exactly?15:39
dobeymuyiscoi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network would be a good starting place for such a bug, i think15:39
matv1today my mako has been running really hot on the newest rtm(186). Just me?15:44
matv1when idle..15:46
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kenvandinecharles, i want to land that charge state fix, can you get the indicator-power branch approved?16:08
kenvandinecharles, for rtm that is, i added it to silo 016:09
* charles clicks16:09
kenvandinecharles, thx :)16:09
rvrbzoltan: Silo 5 is approved.16:31
KnightmareWhere can I find the password to unlock the file manager/terminal apps?16:40
ElleoKnightmare: it's your normal phone unlock password/pin code16:41
Knightmareoh cool16:41
Knightmarethanks Elleo16:41
Elleono problem :)16:41
Elleorpadovani: heya; I'm Mike Sheldon, just thought I'd introduce myself on IRC in case you ever need me for anything16:42
Elleorpadovani: I probably won't be getting into the settings stuff for a little while though as I've got a bunch of new high priority keyboard bugs to sort first, but I'll try to keep abreast of discussion on settings stuff16:43
bzoltanrvr:  magnificant :) Thank you16:45
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rpadovaniElleo, hey :-) Thanks, I'll ping you if I'll need!16:54
charleskenvandine, tedg just approved https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/indicator-power/lp-1416096-publish-primary-device-state-on-bus/+merge/24814216:54
Elleorpadovani: okay, great :)16:54
saidinesh5Elleo: i got my laptop back16:58
saidinesh5so what next :P16:58
Elleosaidinesh5: cool :)16:58
saidinesh5i think after tonight, skeyer will take about the same amount of memory as ubuntu-keyboard....16:59
saidinesh5removing the swipeHints from storage....16:59
Elleosaidinesh5: awesome16:59
saidinesh5they can be computed in O(n) anyways16:59
saidinesh5Elleo: so any news about the maliit mir patches?16:59
* saidinesh5 like to see his name in some upstream commits :D16:59
saidinesh5been a long time since that happened...17:00
Elleosaidinesh5: need to chase people up on that, will do it first thing in the morning17:00
saidinesh5Ah sure17:00
saidinesh5so basically set up a jenkins server for Skeyer17:00
saidinesh5its interesting/weird...17:00
saidinesh5the benchmarks it was running were off by 10x17:00
Elleoheh, I've never setup jenkins myself, I just make use of the stuff all our awesome CI guys run for us17:01
saidinesh5Ah i think thats the server's fault though17:01
saidinesh5its a 1GHz shared vps17:01
saidinesh5so17:01
saidinesh5i think they are throttling things or someone else was stealing my CPU17:01
Elleoah17:01
saidinesh5because i would expect a 2x difference but certainly not 10x difference when compared to my nexus 717:02
Elleoyeah17:02
saidinesh5the good news is17:02
saidinesh5the word it was taking 1600msec on the server was taking 111msec on my machine17:02
Elleoneat17:03
saidinesh5the better news is i think that can be brought down :P17:03
Elleoeven neater :)17:03
saidinesh5the boring news is i think i have to set up a ppa so that testing is easier for me17:03
saidinesh5ppa for skeyer17:03
saidinesh5and i thiiiiiiiink that needs the maliit framework's patches17:03
Elleosaidinesh5: did you ever get to the bottom of the inactive plugin issue?17:04
saidinesh5i think i did17:04
Elleoah cool17:04
saidinesh5that was giving an issue on maliiit desktop too17:04
saidinesh5on my arch machine box (vanilla maliit)17:04
saidinesh5and now it works17:05
Elleogreat17:05
saidinesh5do you have that debian/ folder you used to package maliit?17:05
saidinesh5i mean skeyer17:05
* saidinesh5 hates packaging :P17:05
Elleodon't think I packaged skeyer, probably just installed it straight17:06
kenvandinecharles, thx17:06
ElleoI'll take a quick look though17:06
saidinesh5ah i remember giving me some debs17:06
Elleosaidinesh5: nope, no debian dir17:06
Elleosaidinesh5: ah, that was probably the maliit debs17:06
saidinesh5oh17:07
saidinesh5dunno been a while and had to reinstall kubuntu17:07
saidinesh5so lost stuff17:07
saidinesh5i think i have to reinstall it again though17:07
saidinesh5its somehow not going into sleep17:07
Elleosaidinesh5: I'd compiled maliit on the device with an included hack for the inactive plugin stuff, think that was it17:07
Elleosaidinesh5: do you need those again?17:07
saidinesh5yup17:07
saidinesh5but17:08
saidinesh5that inactive plugin hack might have to be reversede17:08
Elleosaidinesh5: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/maliit-mir-backend/17:08
Elleothere's also ubuntu-keyboard packages there with the mir stuff stripped out17:08
saidinesh5Ahh17:08
saidinesh5so i wont have to patch it then :D17:08
Elleoyep, that's all sitting in a branch ready :)17:09
saidinesh5Elleo: btw. if i were to create a click package for skeyer17:09
saidinesh5all i have to do is change maliit's server.conf isnt it?17:09
saidinesh5to load from skeyer instead of $maliit_plugin_path17:10
Elleosaidinesh5: that should work, but the click won't be able to change the server.conf17:10
Elleosaidinesh5: that'd have to be done manually17:10
saidinesh5that shouldnt be a problem, i mean i m thinking of writing a "config app"17:10
Elleosaidinesh5: well the config app couldn't write to it either if it's distributed as a click17:10
saidinesh5skeyer_settings or something17:11
saidinesh5oh?17:11
PratraxHello17:11
Elleosaidinesh5: that file's only writable if the user's made their system writable, and it's never writable for click apps (due to them being confined)17:11
saidinesh5isnt it just in ~/17:11
Elleosaidinesh5: ah, actually it might read from ~/.local/share/maliit too, we have it reading from /etc/maliit/ currently17:12
Elleosaidinesh5: but it still won't be writable to a click app17:12
saidinesh5O_O17:12
saidinesh5click apps dont have access to ~ ?17:12
PratraxI would like to know if it's possible to have ubuntu SDK on archlinux ?17:12
Elleosaidinesh5: they can only write to ~/.local/share/com.app.id or ~/.cache/com.app.id or similar17:12
saidinesh5Pratrax: i think so, chroot ?17:12
Elleosaidinesh5: apps aren't allowed to touch anything that they don't own17:12
saidinesh5oh17:12
saidinesh5hmm.........17:13
Elleosaidinesh5: we have a pretty strict security model for apps17:13
saidinesh5i see17:13
kenvandineapplication confinement rocks!17:13
Elleosaidinesh5: you could possibly write a desktop app that enables it17:13
saidinesh5okay, by the time i m done with skeyer, i hope you guys would provide a way to select keyboard plugins ......17:13
saidinesh5desktop app?17:13
Elleosaidinesh5: but only for users that have enabled debugging17:13
PratraxI haven't find some tutorial for perform this17:13
Elleosaidinesh5: yeah, a script that just logs in over adb shell and writes it17:14
Elleosaidinesh5: that'd be a massive hack though, and only for developers/advanced users17:14
saidinesh5yeah17:14
saidinesh5i dont mind sending an upstream patch to "select input plugin"17:14
saidinesh5i mean it seems quite important....17:14
saidinesh5btw. maliit too stores settings right?17:15
saidinesh5but afaik ubuntu keyboard was storing settings by itself...17:15
Elleosaidinesh5: yeah, it's something we're going to be working on, but we haven't fully figured out the desired architecture for it yet17:15
saidinesh5i wonder how the N9 did it...17:16
Elleosaidinesh5: I suspect the settings in the ubuntu plugin were done that way to make them easy to integrate with the system settings17:16
saidinesh5yeah some gsettings framework iirc17:16
saidinesh5i remember it segfaulting for me...17:17
Elleothe N9 wasn't trying to solve all the same problems we are really in terms of app confinement and such (which needs to be applied to 3rd party keyboards as well as apps)17:18
Elleoas you don't want a keyboard to be able to read all your contacts and send them off to some evil company or something17:18
saidinesh5oh? i remember aegis being a PITA....17:19
Elleoor log key presses, etc.17:19
saidinesh5yeah sure17:19
saidinesh5right now even i m actually writing a config.h that would disable qdebug for maliit plugin17:19
saidinesh5while keeping it for skeyer demo/tests17:19
saidinesh5ugly qmake stuff but seems quite important17:19
saidinesh5Elleo: btw. wouldnt the default security settings applicable for maliit framework do?17:22
saidinesh5afterall its maliit process thats running the keyboard...17:23
PratraxQuestion :  If I use docker and I use two application who use the same library (Qt for example) is this library loaded two time ?17:23
Elleosaidinesh5: the maliit process is running unconfined at the moment17:23
Elleosaidinesh5: which means a plugin loaded into the maliit process could do pretty much whatever it likes17:24
saidinesh5Ahh17:24
saidinesh5why unconfined?17:24
Elleosaidinesh5: the main thing we need to do is confine maliit, and get it to display things via our trusted sessions architecture instead of just giving it a surface to do whatever it wants with17:24
Elleosaidinesh5: because we haven't confined it yet :P17:24
saidinesh5lol i see17:24
chriscis the termianl app confined?17:26
saidinesh5shouldeach package has its own security stuff right?17:26
chrisci'm trying to work out why i can't chroot... https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10970.html17:26
Elleochrisc: yep, the terminal app is confined17:26
Elleochrisc: if you connect via phablet-shell / adb shell you won't be confined though17:27
Elleosaidinesh5: sort of, all normal packages get to specify which security policies they need17:27
saidinesh5if a package provides 2 binaries?17:27
chriscah, ok, what i want to do though is "chroot /home/debian" on the phone...17:27
popeyElleo: in podbird does the little tick in a circle mean "Listened" ?17:27
Elleopopey: yep17:27
popeyhmm17:28
popeyseems unreliable, i have some which have it and some which dont17:28
Elleosaidinesh5: any binary in the package gets the same permissions (they're defined for the package as a whole)17:28
saidinesh5i see17:28
Elleopopey: yeah, I tried loosening the definition of reaching the end of a podcast in the last update17:28
Elleopopey: not sure if that'll have helped much or not though17:28
saidinesh5i m not tooo keen on implementing a sync your dictionary feature but curious17:28
popeyok17:28
popeyshall i file a bug?17:29
Elleopopey: there might be something else going on there17:29
Elleopopey: yes please17:29
popeyok17:29
Elleosaidinesh5: yeah, keyboards will almost certainly not be allowed the network permission package17:29
Elleos/package//17:30
saidinesh5hmm.....17:30
sergiusensElleo: can we have a little tick for "downloaded" as well?17:30
sergiusensjust to know what will work when off the grid :-)17:31
sergiusensElleo: your app is awesome btw :-)17:31
Elleosergiusens: there should be a trash can instead of a download button once something's downloaded, I'm planning on adding a new "Downloaded Podcasts" view though17:31
popeysergiusens: there's a delete button17:31
popeyyay, i just filed a bug about that :)17:31
Elleosergiusens: that lists all your downloaded episodes from all podcasts17:31
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/podbird/+bug/141767217:31
ubot5Launchpad bug 1417672 in podbird "Needs a listen queue view" [Undecided,New]17:31
Elleoas well as a "Recent Episodes" view for all recent episodes in order17:31
sergiusensElleo popey trash works for me; just wasn't smart enough to notice it :-P17:32
Elleosergiusens: ah, heh17:32
sergiusensor maybe I never really successfully downloaded anything :-P17:33
popey:)17:33
ibuntuawe_, are you around? sorry I didn't get the chance to link up with you the other day. do you have some time today?17:56
chrischmm, trying to edit qml files with vi to add a escape key to the keyboard without a escape key is fustrating..18:00
chriscand no Ctrl-X for nano...18:14
ogra_chrisc, in vi you can also ctrl-c ... does the same as esc18:17
chriscah18:17
dpmpitti, heads up: we're getting the new translations export script deployed (the one that will support exporting from derived distros). Note the change in the names of exported files in: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/data/ubuntu-l10n/18:18
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chriscogra_: it doesn't exactly18:18
ogra_does here18:19
ogra_i often edit files in the terminal app if i cant use a PC18:19
dpmpitti, instead of $SERIES-filename.json it's now $DISTRO_SERIES_filename.json18:19
chriscogra_: sorry, my mistake18:20
ogra_np :)18:20
awe_ibuntu, can we talk in maybe 1/2h?18:33
ibuntuawe_, thanks for getting back to me, that would be great18:59
awe_ibuntu, I have food on the stove top, so will ping you again in 10-15m19:06
kenvandineis music-app in vivid-proposed working for anyone?  It doesn't even start for me, I saw bug 1415318 was filed for that, but I have the fixed version of mediascanner2.19:14
ubot5bug 1415318 in Ubuntu Music App "Music app crashes with unsupported schema version with latest v0.105+15.04.20150127-0ubuntu1 on Vivid" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141531819:14
ahayzenkenvandine, it was working on yesterday's one for me... have you tried clearing your ms2 db?19:15
kenvandineno... i haven't19:15
kenvandinehow do i do that?19:15
adrian47hello, can anyone help with upstart? I am getting E/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 1560): Failed to connect socket for '/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge' on fd 7 (2 [No such file or directory])19:15
ahayzenkenvandine, IIRC remove the db in .cache/mediascanner-2.0/ .. then restart the mediascanner-2.0 service19:15
ahayzen..or restart the device19:15
kenvandineahayzen, i thought with the revert it would handle that?19:16
ahayzenkenvandine, maybe...i remember reading somewhere you could get into a state where you had to clear the db if you ran it whenit was broken or something.... what is the error in the app log?19:16
kenvandineterminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'19:17
kenvandine  what():  Tried to open a db with schema version -1, while supported version is 8.19:17
mohdwhen Ubuntu phone will released19:17
genii"soon"19:17
ahayzenkenvandine, yeah thats ms219:17
kenvandineahayzen, ok, i'll whack it19:18
kenvandineannoying that it can't handle this gracefully :/19:18
ahayzenkenvandine, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10939.html19:18
kenvandinei hope we don't get users into this situation in the future19:18
ahayzenyeah :/19:19
kenvandineyeah, that worked19:19
ahayzencool \o/19:19
kenvandinebut what about users that haven't enabled developer mode...19:19
kenvandinei fear these things in the future19:19
adrian47or maybe someone has an idea what could be wrong? :)19:20
kenvandinei commented on the bug, maybe someone with ms2 knowledge can weigh in19:22
ahayzenkenvandine, yeah probably best, i agree it shouldn't really get into a state where the only way out is to delete the db lol19:25
kenvandineyeah19:26
kenvandinesurely it should be able to see the schema problem and migrate the db19:26
ahayzenyou would have thought ;)19:26
kenvandinethat isn't a new problem to solve :)19:26
kenvandinethat's why we have schema versions :)19:26
awe_ibuntu, ping19:29
kenvandineahayzen, i really love music-app, i just don't use it much because i'm always wiping my phone and losing my music :/19:32
kenvandinei gotta stop flashing my daily driver :)19:32
ahayzenhaha you need more phones by the sounds of it ;)19:32
kenvandinei do... 2 is not enough :)19:32
ahayzenyou need at least 3 i've figured out...19:32
kenvandinei need multiple of the same type, so i can just use one of them19:33
ibuntuawe_, just got out of the shower, thanks for keeping in touch. I will be afk for about 5 mins and then ready to go19:37
ibuntuawe_, are you there? I am at the keyboard19:47
awe_yes19:47
awe_so first thing, can you run the following script and pastebin it for me?19:48
awe_run /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems19:48
awe_and then paste it via pastebin.ubuntu.com19:48
ibuntusure, via adb shell?19:48
awe_yes19:49
adrian47noone? :(  I'm trying to port it but i stoped for 2 weeks now with this problem19:49
ibuntuhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10040291/19:50
davmor2kenvandine: you need a krillin and an sdcard19:51
ezyangHey guys, I got a Thinkpad Helix, and I was thinking Ubuntu Touch was something I would want. Can I install it?19:51
kenvandinedavmor2, not a good daily driver in the US... can't live on edge anymore :)19:51
davmor2kenvandine: hahahaha19:52
ibuntuawe_, happened in a similar fashion to last time. I'm pretty sure both times that my mobile data was offline and that's what prompted me to restart the phone. sometimes my data cuts out and restarting fixes it. this time after restarting it was no longer able to connect to my mobile network at all and said denied like before19:53
ibuntuawe_, and here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10040291/19:54
awe_ibuntu, understood.  If we're going to get to the bottom of this, we're going to need to create a bug with all of the details we discuss here19:54
awe_otherwise it's too hard for me to keep track of the details19:54
awe_and there are others that may be able to help debug19:54
awe_got it, I see what's wrong19:55
awe_there's a bug in RTM on mako that causes the SIM not to be recognized, even though it's inserted19:55
awe_is your SIM PIN locked?19:55
ibuntuawe_, nothing that I can think of. I am not doing any tinkering with the phone, just attempting daily use19:55
ibuntuawe_, no my sim is not pin locked and it is also currently in my old phone. Should I restart the nexus 4 with the sim card inside and then re run that command and paste it?19:56
awe_yes!19:56
awe_it doesn't tell us much if the SIM that's not working isn't in the phone19:57
awe_;)19:57
ibuntuawe_, sorry about that. at least we got is sorted in the first 5 mins19:57
awe_note, you need to restart after inserting the SIM19:59
ibuntuawe_, thanks19:59
adrian47If I will use my installator that will only unpack preinstalled package (with system.img android-ramdisk.img etc..) to system partition. It can cause my error?20:00
adrian47I'm not usign rootstock now20:08
ibuntuawe_, here is the new pastebin with the sim card in the phone http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10040563/20:09
ibuntuawe_, I assumed there was no pin lock on my sim card because I never set one up but I just called me wireless provider and they told me that my sim is in fact pin locked. It has a primary pin and a backup pin. I have obtained both in case we need them20:10
awe_ibuntu, what's your carrier again?20:11
awe_your SIM is *not* pin locked according to the output from list-modems20:11
ibuntuawe_, WIND Mobile in Canada (I am living just outside of Toronto)20:11
awe_if it was, if would say PinRequired = pin20:11
ibuntuawe_, both numbers are 7 digits... maybe the tech support rep I spoke to was confused about what I was asking?20:12
awe_SIM PINs are four digits20:12
awe_ibuntu, did you confirm with your carrier that they allow unlocked devices on their network?20:13
awe_ibuntu, "denied" means the carrier rejected your devices attempt to register to the network20:13
awe_you typically get this when a) you run out of credit or b) your carrier rejects the device20:13
ibuntuawe_, I thought they were four digits. I also thought you had to set up a sim pin manually which is why I believed it was not locked. It sounds like it isn't anyway so that's good... and last time I called in to my carrier about the issue I had asked them if they had blocked the mac address of the device and they confirmed it was not blocked. Although I have not specifically asked them the question of whether they allow unlocke20:15
ibuntuawe_, they sell and officially support factory unlocked devices like the nexus 420:15
ibuntuawe, and I have always used unlocked devices with them in the past without issue. they have been my carrier for around 3 years20:16
awe_ok, just checking20:18
ibuntuawe_, do you want me to call them back to ask them anything specific?20:18
awe_again, "denied" is a response from the carrier...  so I'm not really sure what's happening here20:18
awe_ibuntu, if they say the account is active, and it works in another device20:18
muyiscoihey guys. how does one take screenshots on ubuntu phone?20:18
awe_then you've hit a bug we haven't yet seen20:19
popeymuyiscoi: phablet-screenshot20:19
popey(on a usb attached pc)20:19
awe_ibuntu, last time did you actually flash android, and then re-flash ubuntu to resolve the issue?20:19
awe_ibuntu, let's get a bug created...  would you mind doing so via: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+filebug20:20
muyiscoipopey: thanks. On the music app, I noticed that you can't do "repeat one" when playing one song from an album. I wanted to file it as a bug, but if its just something that isn't implemented yet, i'll just forget it20:21
popeyahayzen: ^ see :)20:21
awe_please include what we've discussed so far ( ie. list-modems output, system-image-cli -i output, operator name, ... )20:21
ibuntuawe_, yeah, both times when I got this issue I popped my sim back into my old unlocked Nexus S and use that until I get the Nexus 4 working again; last time I followed the instructions to restore android here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/reinstalling-android/ essentially rebooting into the bootloader and running ./flash-all.sh in the adb shell. After android booted up and connected to the network...20:22
ahayzenmuyiscoi, something like this? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/single-repeat/+merge/24242720:23
ahayzenmuyiscoi, its on the list of TODOs we've just been talking/debating with design the best way todo it20:23
ibuntuawe_, check that everything was working and reinstalled ubuntu touch by rebooting into the bootloader and running ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 --bootstrap20:23
awe_which version of Android did you flash?20:24
muyiscoiahayzen: yes. that's it exactly. Glad to know its being worked on. Most music players just use the same button for "repeat all" and "repeat one". Tapping the button twice selects the latter. That's how I'm used to doing it anyway20:25
ahayzenmuyiscoi, yeah that is what that code does currently20:26
ibuntuawe_, the latest one 5.0.1 (LRX22C)20:26
awe_ah...that's might be the issue20:26
awe_our images are based on 4.4.2, and there's a possibility that the Android 5 install upgrades the radio fw20:28
ibuntuawe_, I'm pretty sure when I first bought the phone and turned it on it asked me to upgrade from android 4.4.2 to android 5 or possibly 4.4.4, but if I remember correctly, the first thing it did was an upgrade. And then I installed ubuntu touch. So do you think that if I reflash v4.4.2 of android and then go back to utouch that I might not have the radio fw issue again?20:31
awe_yes20:32
muyiscoiare there any plans to have playback controls as part of the  sound indicator menu as they are on unity 7 currently?20:34
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ibuntuawe_, Cool. Well I will file the bug report and try reflashing with 4.4.2 and hopefully it doesn't happen again, but at least we will have all the info ready if it does. and hopefully you guys can make use of some of the info to fix whatever the problem is with the updated radio fw20:35
kenvandinemuyiscoi, i hope so, i thought that had been implemented at one point20:36
kenvandinenot sure what happened20:36
awe_if that fixes the problem, there's not much we can do to fix20:36
popeyyeah, it got backed out20:36
ibuntuoh yeah... I guess it won't really affect any future phones because they will be based off of native hardware20:36
ahayzenmuyiscoi, yep eventually it will be like unity720:38
ahayzenmuyiscoi, just we need to do some backend work upstream to the music-app to get it all working :)20:39
kenvandinei want it in the greeter20:39
popeydont we all :)20:39
ahayzenmuyiscoi, it was enabled ages ago but then had to be disabled as the next/previous buttons don't current function20:39
ahayzen+120:39
ahayzen*currently function20:39
muyiscoiahayzen, gotchya. I'm patiently waiting :D20:41
Myself5heyho, I have a quick question21:18
Myself5I compiled the Ubuntu Touch Android base (4.4.2)21:18
SturmFlutalecu, dobey: I tried to buy mhall119's "uReadIt (Dev)" app on the store just now, and I can't get it done. On the "Payment" screen after clicking on the price it asked me for a password, but didn't say which one (Launchpad, PayPal etc.). So I entered my Launchpad password, which ended in a screen saying "Authorization failed", and now I can't enter another password regardless of what I'm doing. The password textbox just21:19
SturmFlutdisappeared.21:19
Myself5and now I try to find a Ubuntu Touch rootfs which its this base21:19
Myself5the guide links to a utopic build which does not exist anymore, and I am not sure if I can use vidid with the 4.4.2 base21:19
dobeySturmFlut: it's the ubuntu one password (which would be the same with what you log into launchpad with, since it uses u1 for auth)21:21
dobeySturmFlut: if the password text entry disappeared, that's a weird bug i certainly haven't seen (one of the acceptance tests is 'type an invalid password' btw)21:22
Myself5is there anyone here who is able to help me :/ ?21:22
dobeySturmFlut: you should of course be able to hit cancel and try again though. but please file a bug with screenshot21:23
SturmFlutdobey: I just restarted my device and the box is still gone o_O21:23
dobeySturmFlut: does it show available payment methods?21:23
SturmFlutWhat was the command to take a screenshot via adb? I forgot it21:23
dobeyphablet-screenshot21:23
SturmFlutMyself5: Sorry, I don't know anything about porting. But I've heard that the new porting quide will be pusblished soon, maybe the information you need is in there.21:24
dobeyMyself5: i don't know anything about the porting guide either, other than a new one should be coming soon21:25
SturmFlutdobey: Ah, thanks! That was it21:25
Myself5my problem is not porting it. I already did this without any guide. It's about installing. I am not certainly sure if I can use the vivid rootfs21:25
dobeyMyself5: vivid should work fine though. we haven't changed the AOSP base for the vivid builds21:25
Myself5ok, I'll try this then21:26
Myself5thanks :)21:26
SturmFlutdobey: I navigate to http://217.28.97.4/1.png and press on the price. Then http://217.28.97.4/2.png loads, I enter my Ubuntu One password, I am pretty sure I entered it correctly, and the result is http://217.28.97.4/3.png .21:31
SturmFlutdobey: After that, the "Payment" dialog always looks like http://217.28.97.4/4.png21:32
SturmFlutdobey: I even restarted the whole device and the password box was still gone, it reappeared after waiting for about ten minutes. As if something had to time out first.21:32
dobeySturmFlut: oh, you are trying to pay with paypal. that auth failed is not for the u1 password. it is from the paypal site i suspect.21:33
dobeybeuno: ^^ looks like euro paypal has an issue perhaps?21:33
SturmFlutdobey: Would be nice if the dialogue told me which password it wants. And what do I do if my PayPal e-mail differs from the Ubuntu One account?21:35
dobeySturmFlut: paypal e-mail doesn't have to match u1 account. paypal is all done via web, so you have to log into paypal with the account. doesn't matter what e-mail it is21:36
dobeySturmFlut: you can file a bug about it not being clear what password to use and i'll try to get design to look at it.21:37
SturmFlutdobey: I never end up with a PayPal login website. These are all the screens I ever see.21:37
dobeySturmFlut: yes, becasue, as i said, there seems to be a problem with the euro paypal it seems. unfortunately i don't think we can do anything about that in the client. it's a server thing, which is why i pinged beuno. but he is likely already gone, given the hour it is for him21:38
dobeybut if you file a bug i'll make sure his team sees it21:39
dobeychecking on my phone to see what happens21:39
dobeyyes, also broken for US paypal :(21:40
dobeySturmFlut: sorry, you can hit the back arrow at the top to go back, and then cancel to exit. i'll ping to see if i can get someone to look at it21:41
SturmFlutdobey: Ahhh, I begin to understand. So basically the bug is this: After logging in with the U1 password and selecting "PayPal" there should be a redirect to the PayPal website, but it doesn't happen21:42
dobeySturmFlut: well it happened, but it failed21:42
adrian47rootstock installer is actual? it will work with 4.4.2 base?21:43
SturmFlutadrian47: Sorry, I have no idea.21:43
dobeySturmFlut: so the password entry going away is correct there, because the password you entered was correct. so you don't need to enter it again for another 15 minutes. it's a special thing for purchases that we request it there21:43
dobeySturmFlut: apparently paypal broke the API we're using, and i guess server people already know about it and are working to get it fixed21:47
SturmFlutdobey: Okay, I'll file the bug anyways so other users can see it21:47
dobeyok21:47
SturmFluthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/pay-ui/+bug/141777921:50
ubot5Launchpad bug 1417779 in pay-ui "PayPal payment is broken" [Undecided,New]21:50
adrian47Anyone can help with: E/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 1560): Failed to connect socket for '/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge' on fd 7 (2 [No such file or directory])21:53
dobeySturmFlut: cool, thanks. moved it to the right project and notified the right team about it21:53
SturmFlutdobey: Hm, and at least on my mako (stable channel r15) device the on-screen keyboard does not appear when using the "Add credit card" screen21:55
dobeySturmFlut: hmm, maybe a bug in oxide or the keyboard then :-/21:57
SturmFlutdobey: Okay, at least adding a credit card via https://pay.ubuntu.com/ and then selecting it in the pay-ui worked.22:00
SturmFlutmhall119: That makes me customer #5 or so, right?22:01
dobeySturmFlut: sorry the world seems to have exploded tonight :-/22:01
SturmFlutdobey: Well, I'm used to it, five of my apps are currently blocked because the relevant API calls or features are missing ;)22:02
mhall119SturmFlut: of ureadit-dev?22:31
mhall119SturmFlut: you'd be purchaser #11 actually, my little apps is doing better than I expected :)22:32
SturmFlutmhall119: Woohoo!22:39
SturmFlutOne of my apps is at 93 downloads, I wonder what effect the release of the first phone will have.22:46
mhall119SturmFlut: one of mine got 2310 users, and that was made obsolete by the better Forums Browser app a while ago23:02
popeySturmFlut: my most popular app has 2112 users...23:37
kenvandinei didn't know we had user stats23:38
popeyoh yeah!23:38
SturmFlutpopey: :(23:38
* SturmFlut needs a killer app idea23:38
popeygames23:39
popeyseriously, we need more games23:39
kenvandinei should really login to my apps more often23:39
popeyalso, frameworks23:39
kenvandinepopey, seriously!23:39
kenvandinewe need more people hacking on bacon2d :)23:39
kenvandineand making bacon2d games!23:39
popeypfft23:39
kenvandinei'll give free bacon to developers writing bacon2d games23:39
kenvandine:-D23:39
popeyframeworks means we can nag existing developers to bring their games over23:39
SturmFlutpopey: One is a game! Flood It!23:40
kenvandinepopey, but that's really hard23:40
kenvandinelike cocas2d23:40
popeynot necessarily23:40
popeykivy23:40
kenvandineit would be pretty hard to get that working i think23:40
kenvandinebut it would be a huge win23:40
kenvandineor libgdx23:41
kenvandinefor java games23:41
kenvandinetons of games use those23:41
popeylove2d23:41
kenvandinethat isn't as common23:41
kenvandineit looks cool23:41
kenvandinebut cocas2d and libgdx would give us a massive opportunity for porting games23:41
kenvandinefrom ios and android23:41
popeylove2d and kivy are pretty neat and have quite a nice open source community around them23:41
popeysure23:41
popeybut they're hard23:41
popeylove and kivy are _close_ to done on the phone already23:42
popeythey both have mobile gles builds23:42
kenvandinebut what's the benefit?23:42
popeythere are games already made with those platforms23:42
kenvandineif they don't have a large base of existing games23:42
popeyjust like cocas2d and libgdx23:42
popeydefine large23:42
popeycompared to how many we already havre23:42
kenvandinewell... cocas2d and libgdx are large :)23:42
kenvandinehaha23:42
popeyI mean, I like aiming high23:42
popeybut seriously, we need all of them, not just the big guys23:43
kenvandineyeah23:43
kenvandineagreed23:43
popeyand the smaller guys are easier to do23:43
popeymore flexible23:43
kenvandinebut i'm focusing on making developers love to write QML games :)23:43
* kenvandine hugs QML23:43
popeysure, thats also great23:43
popeylets whack _all_ the moles23:43
kenvandinelike that hill climb racing game23:43
kenvandinetotally not hard to do in bacon2d :)23:44
popeyof course23:44
kenvandinejust takes time... which i haven't had :/23:44
popeybut someone else has already written stuff in these other frameworks23:44
kenvandinei did fix some issues that prevented it from working before :)23:44
kenvandineyeah23:44
kenvandinewe need people working on that23:44
kenvandinethe biggest hurdle will be dealing with mir and input stuff23:44
kenvandinewe need those types of folks looking at it23:45
popeyyup23:46
popeyhaving phones on the market will be a bonus23:46
popeywe have the community budget and could justify sending devices to people23:46
popeyI have spoken to these people in the past and the emulator flat out aint good enough for them23:46
popeythey have limited time for what they already do, spending time fighting the emulator isn't productive23:46

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