=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [03:28] I just looked out the window - snow has landed [03:34] :O [03:34] diddledan: heh, just bought Battlefield 4 on the xbone as my mates want to get it [03:34] 61.4GB XD [03:34] eep [03:34] I always read xbone as "x-bone" :-p [03:35] is that because it seems like a content type from your web shenanigans? [03:35] nah, it's because I'm an ass :-p [03:35] a donkey?! then you can be an honourary Guern! [03:39] gah [03:39] had to leave casino early [03:39] :o [03:41] someone stole my damn drink [03:41] bar closed [03:41] i spoke to manager and got a useless voucher for tomorrow [03:41] but you quit! [03:42] nah [03:42] :o [03:42] i pretend id like to [03:42] but i never will really [03:43] just like i quit smoking for a while [03:43] never lasts long [03:43] :( [03:44] its life [03:45] we're all playing the time game [03:45] just im speeding it up quite a lot heh [04:38] judge judy is so good [04:38] love the show so much [04:55] mapps: that's a really, really bad sign [04:56] can't stand such tosh myself :) [04:57] pff [04:57] sensationalist fakery poop \o/ [04:59] ;[[[ [05:09] I guess you need something to fill the void left by Springer? [05:10] lol [05:11] did he retire? [05:11] didnt know [05:11] i just like jj:) [05:12] i dont watch any other reality garbage [05:12] tell you what [05:12] Mis gatos beben la leche [05:12] :D [05:12] duolingo teaching me [05:12] heh [05:12] just imagine you got wrapped up in some genuine misunderstanding, then got thrown in front of Judge Judy [05:12] now imagine how fun it must be ;) [05:12] its so good..i use it on my phone (android) ..on my ipad and on the web [05:12] that wouldn't be fun daftykins [05:12] ;D [05:13] i think that's my problem watching stuff like that, too cringeworthy for me [05:13] i can't watch alleged comedies like Peep Show for that reason [05:18] i like peep show [05:20] you ever watchged it? [05:20] yeah a friend was obsessed [05:20] i can't stand it [05:23] i quite like it [05:23] it is overrated tho === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti === JamesTait is now known as Guest62637 === Guest62637 is now known as JamesTait [09:33] Good morning all; happy Eileen Collins Day! :-D [09:34] * awilkins would rather have Collins day, the day when you just sit in bed and drink a Tom Collins each hour. === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [09:53] JamesTait: Space the front ear, why do they want ears on the front when we know the sides are better? [09:54] s/space the/space the final [09:54] davmor2, it's not a new concept - Davey Crockett was the king of the wild front ear. [09:56] well wouldn't you be wild if someone cut you off and slapped on the front where you don't belong? [09:57] I expect so. [09:59] JamesTait: and then heading into space to find the final one seems like a waste of money to me ;) [10:01] davmor2, well maybe it's because they've had no luck finding it down here on Earth. [10:02] especially when in space no one can hear you rub salt into the wound... :-) [10:05] nice https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list [10:06] hehe [10:08] you'd have thought google would be better at stopping that [10:24] popey, I can't believe that's real when google does botblocking elsewhere such as sign-in attempts [10:25] I'd hate to have to clean that lot up [10:25] nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure :-) [10:25] they're still coming in [10:27] it starts at number 13815 (~7 pages) [10:28] sorry 130815 [10:34] It's precisely this sort of thing that makes me sad about capitalism [10:35] In a world where people didn't have to scrape for a living, this sort of thing would be beneath people [10:36] no it wouldn't, there'd always be some greedy bugger trying to make money by spamming everyone and everything [10:36] Viva la revolution robotique! Robot socialism for all! [10:36] Mmn, but not being paid to do it [10:36] Well, fewer people [10:36] Bah [10:37] Stupid statistics and enormous population numbers [10:37] they'd do not for the money but to gain followers/karma/shiny pebbles. [10:38] Interesting that they are targetting an Indian market [10:38] +91 phone numbers and everything [10:38] Wouldn't have thought it was particularly rich pickings [10:38] or bored engineers who wonder what indian services sound like... [10:39] zmoylan-pi, is prostitution a "service industry" then? [10:39] Or does it count as entertainment [10:39] lol [10:45] morning boys and girls. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === Jackey2 is now known as Jakey2 [13:35] Question : I have a Windows in a VirtualBox instance [13:36] If I connect the host machine to a VPN, I get network packets from the VM routed properly but it doesn't resolve DNS names (because only the host has the extra DNS entries) [13:36] Can I just point it to my host machine as a DNS server (since it's all locally routed through something by default on Ubuntu?)( [13:41] awilkins: IIRC it's because "Windows" [13:42] I have this exact set-up....trying to recall how I fixed it [13:42] awilkins: what network type? [13:42] I think it was much hacking of the routing table.... [13:42] ali1234, NAT network [13:43] ali1234, the one where the machines share a network but also have NAT to the outside world [13:43] okay so with NAT the host runs a dhcp server for guests [13:43] Have found a forum topic [13:43] that should tell the guest what DNS server to use [13:43] awilkins: So you want the guest to be able to hit-up servers on the VPN? [13:43] ali1234, Yeah, getting the DHCP address assignment [13:43] ali1234, But no DNS [13:44] none at all? [13:44] But there seems to be a setting for that [13:44] put in the host as DNS server then, probably [13:44] I have it set up to use Google's DNS but that obviously doesn't serve names from my corporate VPN [13:45] however, you need to know about split DNS [13:45] why not just run the VPN client on the guest? [13:45] It's an option [13:46] awilkins: What I had to do was explicitly define the DNSs what live VPN-side as well as all the attendant DNS suffixes. [13:46] Seemed to work [13:46] Yeah, that would work [13:47] More of a fiddle though [13:48] Meh....set it once and forget it [13:49] On the hose I use a batch file to recreate all the network shares and add the DNS servers once I connect to the VPN. [13:49] "On the host..." === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === marcus is now known as Guest46446 [14:35] hi all [14:35] o/ [14:37] ;] [14:37] never clseep zmoylan-pi? [14:38] about 4 hours a day at the moment :-/ [15:09] Hi guys, best place to get a SSL cert from ? Want to play with letsencrypt.org but that's a few months away yet [15:09] diplo: cheapest? startssl [15:10] diplo: if you need the insurance more expensive ones provide, go for something like gandi.net [15:10] though startssl has EV certs too, but not for free [15:13] Well it's for work, we don't need ssl for our data but I thought it was better to go that route, also google adding ranking based on if it's ssl now as well [15:14] Just found namecheap are doing a basic one fairly cheap, I've never used SSL before so debating just going for the basics to play and make sure I can make it work correctly :) [15:14] in irssi, how do i ignore highlights from a certain user? [15:15] diplo: startssl is still free ;) unless you want cool stuff like wildcards etc. Those are cheaper at other places [15:18] I do like the idea of wildcards for mail [15:19] diplo: uh.. what do you mean? [15:19] I maybe don't fully understand the certs [15:19] diplo: you have multiple mail servers, you mean? [15:20] So basically I have domain.com if I order a cert for domain.com can I use it for https and also for mail.domain.com ? [15:20] diplo: let me find that crash course I Found a few weeks ago [15:20] Or do I need a wildcard to be able to do subdomains [15:20] diplo: best to order 2 certificates for that imho [15:20] Ah right! [15:20] diplo: one for the mail server, one for the https-server [15:21] wildcards are useful if you have stuff like "my.domain.com" and "www.domain.com" and "somethingelse.domain.com" and want to protect them all at once [15:21] and even then, SAN (subject alternative name) is considered better [15:22] diplo: https://sites.google.com/site/x509certificateusage/ is good [15:22] diplo: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS is also useful [15:22] Looking now thanks [15:23] diplo: also, to check your setup: https://www.ssllabs.com/ [15:23] diplo: they also have guides for proper SSL/TLS deployment [15:36] Sorry missed the last link, thanks! Looking at that now [17:49] hi everyone [17:50] my computer get black screen instad og login screen [18:38] Hey folks. I just bought a TP-Link WR703N. Got 2 laptops connected via WiFi with the router right next to them both (so full signal, 72mbit sync) if I ping the router I get like 2ms latency. if I ping the other laptop I get a ~100ms latency average with worst of like 400ms. Any ideas? [18:58] Azelphur: wifi signal can be too powerful [18:58] anyway you should test by pinging the router itself from each machine [18:58] from each machine is fine, 2ms [18:59] so router has bad firmware... [18:59] well, it's a fairly normal build of openwrt running on there [19:00] ali1234, oO, actually I think I've found something [19:00] my 11" laptop is getting very unstable latency to the router, anything from 1ms to 110ms [19:01] my 15" laptop is getting <3ms every time [19:01] wifi compatibility problems then [19:01] wifi really sucks, get used to it [19:03] ali1234, so it's a driver problem on the 11" laptop you think? [19:04] not as such [19:04] two perfectly working drivers might not work with each other [19:04] try moving channel, that sometimes helps [19:04] try moving further away too [19:04] ok I moved it a bit further away, there's a little under a metre now [19:04] latency is still the same, will try channel [19:05] a metre is not enough [19:05] go in a different room [19:06] k moving laptop away from router, will see if it changes [19:07] different room, same latency [19:08] ali1234, well I'll be damned, that worked. [19:08] what? [19:08] channel 11 to channel 6, latency dropped from 100ms average to 2. [19:09] thanks dude :) [19:09] "wifi really sucks, get used to it" [19:09] check the other one still works now [19:09] yea everything works now [19:09] that makes my synergy work way better :) [19:10] port by bluetooth atches to newest synergy and use that instead [19:11] let me try that again [19:11] port my bluetooth patches to newest synergy and use that [19:11] synergy over bluetooth? [19:11] yeah [19:11] that sounds...cool [19:11] you get free encryption, service discovery, roaming [19:12] and it's entirely out of band so big transfers don't make your control unresponsive [19:12] linux only and the patches are seriously out of date [19:12] if you can make it work on windows or mac then the upstream would be interested [19:12] aww :< [19:12] if you know how to program bluetooth for windows it would be easy [19:13] sadly I have no bluetooth programming knowledge [19:13] neither did i [19:13] and my C++ extends to if (!qt) { nope } [19:13] the blueman developer helped me quite a bit [19:13] cool :) [19:13] synergy is written in C i think [19:13] oh [19:13] can't remember [19:13] then just none :P [19:14] I suppose logically you'd want to use a cross platform bluetooth library though rather than talking to blueman directly [19:14] nope, this is C++ [19:14] it doesn't talk to blueman at all [19:14] oh [19:15] it should be mostly cross platform [19:15] it uses rfcomm sockets, which act almost exactly like TCP sockets [19:17] so did you use a bluetooth library of sorts that is close platform? [19:17] my favourite thing about it is that once you pair all your devices, you can have your laptop move seamlessly between synergy servers [19:17] yea it'd definitely be cool for my laptops and such [19:17] if you have a workstation at work and at home you don't need to do anything, it just works with both [19:18] so, whys this not mainline yet? [19:18] because it sounds awesome [19:18] because when i wrote it, synergy was abandoned [19:18] it's been forked now [19:18] it's on github now? [19:18] they contacted me to ask about using the patches, i said "sure, knock yourself out" [19:18] but nobody knew how to port it to windows [19:18] ah [19:19] (or mac) [19:19] that sucks [19:19] so it's just sitting waiting [19:19] http://synergy-project.org/wiki/Related_Projects#synergy-bluetooth [19:19] and yeah, they put it on github very recently [19:19] I see [19:19] but the fork happened ages ago, synergy used to be svn for ages and eventually enough people complained so they switched [19:20] yea sadly I ain't the one to port it to Windows/Mac either, I don't even have any of those machines [19:20] well then you could just refresh the patch for newest synergy :) [19:20] i mean it works fine if you only use linux [19:21] all a bit beyond me, I wonder if it'd just patch against the latest synergy [19:21] unlikely with a patcht his old [19:21] it shouldn't be hard to port though [19:21] oh the other thing is that synergy-bluetooth can ONLY do bluetooth :) [19:22] yea I only use synergy while roaming with my two laptops anyway [19:22] or... actually we might have fixed that [19:22] have a look at the patch anyway, it's only 280 lines [19:24] worth trying to see if it patches in anyway, I forget how to apply a patch though [19:51] ali1234, I think I managed to patch most of it in, but it seems like str2ba isn't around [19:51] looks like it is/was part of bluez [19:52] yes [19:52] no idea on what to do for that one [19:52] it converts string to bluetooth address [19:53] sounds like kinda an important part of the library, reckon they've just renamed the function or moved it to another file? [19:53] it should still be around? [19:54] undefined reference to `str2ba' :< [19:54] linking? [19:55] you need to -lbluetooth [19:55] for some reason it isn't in the patch [19:55] have a look at the tarball [19:55] i'm pretty sure that works [19:56] hmm, where on earth would I drop that in the Makefile [19:56] the Makefile is huge [19:56] it's automake/autoconf [19:56] literally nobody understand it [19:56] lol [19:57] so how do i -lbluetooth then [20:00] found it [20:00] ARCH_LIBS="$X_LIBS $X_PRE_LIBS $XEXT_LDADD -lXext -lX11 -lbluetooth $X_EXTRA_LIBS $ARCH_LIBS" [20:00] in configure.in [20:00] find the line that looks like this except without -lbluetooth [20:00] I don't have a configure.in [20:00] ... yes you do [20:01] find . | grep -i configure.in [20:01] says no [20:01] also not present on github [20:01] hahahahahahahahaha [20:01] they switched to cmake [20:01] :P [20:02] add it to CMakeLists.txt [20:02] https://github.com/synergy/synergy/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L197 [20:03] list(APPEND libs bluetooth) [20:03] put it somewhere [20:03] stick it on line 198? [20:03] put it on 271 [20:04] k, rebuilding :) [20:04] you need to rerun cmake [20:04] I'm actually just running make [20:04] make seems to build it [20:05] cmake generates a makefile [20:05] never ran cmake [20:06] make seems to have worked though, looks like it built successfully [20:06] you got synergyc and synergys? [20:06] yes [20:07] okay next you need to pair your computers on bluetooth [20:07] synergy can't do this, you must use blueman or something [20:07] or gnome-bluetooth or whatever [20:08] amusingly this might be where we hit a roadblock, bluetooth on my laptop is fairly messed up to deal with hacky gasia ps3 controllers [20:10] it should be fine [20:10] it's very low level, it doesn't use profiles or anything like that [20:10] well, in its current state, sudo service start bluetooth fails and the bluetooth dialog won't open, says BlueZ isn't running [20:10] heh, that's pretty messed up [20:10] yep [20:11] don't happen to know where I could see logs to figure out why bluetooth isn't starting? [20:11] no idea these days [20:11] oh thats interesting, in dmesg it says failed to spawn bluetooth main process: unable to execute: permission denied [20:12] rfcomm is the command line equivalent of ifconfig for bluetooth [20:12] wait no [20:12] it's hciconfig [20:12] fixed it [20:12] :D [20:13] the config file format for synergy is a bit different too [20:13] you don't need to put ip addresses, just names [20:13] and the names are the same as what the device advertises [20:14] paired :D [20:15] i'm a bit worried that patch is not valid [20:15] it might not be the whole thing... seems short... i don't remember [20:16] oh well. just write a config file and then run synergyc/synergys [20:16] you might have to specify -bluetooth or --bluetooth [20:16] i don't know why though since it doesn't seem to support anything else [20:17] yeah this patch really can't be complete [20:19] the client is saying WARNING: failed to connect to server: unsupported address for: azelphur-XMG-P505 [20:19] :< [20:19] ali1234, aww [20:19] did you run it with -bluetooth? [20:20] -bluetooth and --bluetooth are both unknown flags [20:20] won't run with either [20:20] hmm [20:20] yeah patch looks incomplete [20:20] i wonder why [20:21] oh well :< [20:21] well there's always the tarball [20:22] hehe, yea I guess [20:22] would be nice to see this builtin at any rate, if you ever felt like working on it [20:23] let me test the tarball [20:23] then i will try to fix the patch [20:23] :) [20:24] yeah the patch is definitely broken, it doesn't have sdp discovery stuff [20:25] tarball won't build due to gcc warnings [20:30] this patch is lol [20:30] i dont even [20:34] here is the REAL patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/10040936/ [20:35] well, roughly. i might have based it off the wrong version [20:36] davmor2: hope you appreciated that ;) [20:52] ugh, they moved all the files around [20:53] Azelphur: how did you even get this patch to apply? [20:54] ali1234, manually. [20:54] ali1234, and yea they did [20:54] the real patch is 1000 lines [20:54] but you're looking for ./src/lib/arch/unix/ArchNetworkBSD.cpp no doubt [20:54] yeah [20:57] lol, the files are completely different [20:58] the code that needs patching is now in a different place, probably completely rewritten [21:03] fun] [21:33] 770 lines done [21:46] https://github.com/ali1234/synergy/commit/6333e2dfcaa096b64b66051657d914ca713455ed [21:46] that won't build but it's a start