| bduk | More almal | 04:43 |
|---|---|---|
| Trixar_za | I'll just leave this here: http://www.xkcd.com/ | 05:40 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:35 |
| nuvolari | o/ oh hi | 06:39 |
| stickyboy | Morning, d00ds and d00dettes. | 06:47 |
| stickyboy | Raise your hand if you've been to Rwanda. | 06:47 |
| bduk | Does google earth count stickyboy | 06:54 |
| nuvolari | lol | 07:06 |
| * nuvolari does'nt think it does | 07:06 | |
| bduk | dem | 07:06 |
| nuvolari | waar is oom kilos vanoggend? :-/ | 07:06 |
| bduk | ook al gewonder hoop hy is ok | 07:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lo | 07:34 |
| Kilos | morning superfly inetpro rudi-is-me ThatGraemeGuy and others | 07:56 |
| rudi-is-me | Hi Kilos | 07:56 |
| superfly | ohi | 07:56 |
| bduk | Hi Kilos jy darem besluit om op te staan gedag daar is fout | 07:58 |
| Kilos | hi bduk | 07:59 |
| inetpro | hi Kilos | 07:59 |
| Kilos | bduk skape is al uit, kerrie kook lekker, en baie dubbeltjies al uit gegrow | 08:00 |
| bduk | Klink lekker maar jy moet eerste kom groet anders worry ons | 08:01 |
| Kilos | skuus man | 08:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ai! | 08:08 |
| inetpro | you don't greet your friends from up north? :-) | 08:09 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi stickyboy | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi zipper | 08:10 |
| zipper | Kilos: Hey :) | 08:11 |
| Kilos | i must learn to start using smileys i spose | 08:11 |
| zipper | Kilos: lol only if the wanting to know comes from within you :) | 08:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:15 |
| Kilos | i like pidgin because i can see the pics, here i must remember the code for them | 08:16 |
| Kilos | irc on pidgin is hard work with other im services too | 08:16 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Hola | 08:24 |
| stickyboy | irssi 4 lyfe | 08:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:25 |
| rudi-is-me | hi | 08:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro please give an explanation of what trello kan do for us | 08:37 |
| Kilos | s/kan/can | 08:37 |
| Kilos | will help getting others to join ons they can see your plan | 08:38 |
| Kilos | s/ons/us | 08:38 |
| Kilos | sjoe geeting my tales mixed up today | 08:38 |
| Kilos | getting | 08:40 |
| rudi-is-me | don't worry, it's still early :) | 08:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Trello can help us to get organised so we can be more effective | 08:57 |
| inetpro | you will notice that I have moved lists around to be more logical | 08:59 |
| inetpro | we now have different lists for: New Ideas, To Do, Current Activities and Done | 08:59 |
| Kilos | yes i see that | 08:59 |
| Kilos | hi drussell hows ya? | 09:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: maybe you can help us by taking some of the suggestions made at the meeting and add them as cards under "New ideas" | 09:00 |
| nuvolari | o/ oh hi oom Kilos | 09:01 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari ek wag vir jou | 09:01 |
| Kilos | jy moet trello kry | 09:01 |
| nuvolari | ek't vir oom ge-hangout | 09:01 |
| Kilos | https://trello.com/ | 09:02 |
| nuvolari | ek het dit oom | 09:02 |
| nuvolari | ek is @johanmynhardt | 09:02 |
| Kilos | lol ok dankie ek sien dit op pidgin gewoonlik' | 09:02 |
| Kilos | watter naam het jy gegee? Johan? | 09:02 |
| nuvolari | gegee waarvoor? | 09:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:03 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:03 |
| Kilos | wel , dit wys n niek of naam wat jy daar insit | 09:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I added him now | 09:04 |
| Kilos | i see him ty inetpro | 09:04 |
| Kilos | nuvolari https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco-basics | 09:05 |
| Kilos | oi | 09:05 |
| * stickyboy starts a rival Arch Linux LoCo | 09:05 | |
| Kilos | do they even have locos? | 09:06 |
| inetpro | stickyboy: go for it | 09:06 |
| stickyboy | :D | 09:06 |
| stickyboy | I'm into LUGs, not LoCos. :P | 09:07 |
| inetpro | stickyboy: we don't compete | 09:07 |
| Kilos | our loco has lug inside as well | 09:07 |
| * inetpro is also a sleeping member of GLUG | 09:07 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: don't confuse me man | 09:08 |
| Kilos | the whole idea stickyboy is to grow linux | 09:08 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: We can grow Linux by getting Tux tattoos on our foreheads. | 09:08 |
| Kilos | its a step up for lug members to join a loco | 09:09 |
| inetpro | ai! | 09:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:09 |
| Kilos | stickyboy the world out there is basically ignorant about linux | 09:09 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Yah | 09:09 |
| Kilos | some are as far as saying oh the server thing | 09:10 |
| Kilos | inetpro what did i say that was confusing to a person of your calibre | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i didnt say anything about mechanics or farming | 09:14 |
| rudi-is-me | I had a client who was busy setting up an office with a few workstations and a server. He asked me if there was another option re the expensive lic fees for the workstations and server. I told him about Ubuntu and he sounded really interested, especially after I told him that it's way more stable. When he asked what it was going to cost him, I replied that the OS won't cost him a cent, he... | 09:15 |
| rudi-is-me | ...said well in that case it can't be worth it | 09:15 |
| rudi-is-me | let's for of ms | 09:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:16 |
| Kilos | the world is full of idiots as well | 09:16 |
| rudi-is-me | I think we all have a bit of idiot in us, some just have more than others :) | 09:17 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:17 |
| Kilos | you need to change your approach to peeps like that | 09:17 |
| Kilos | take a lappy with and demo ubuntu and emphasize the no virus threat bit too | 09:18 |
| rudi-is-me | he went with vista and I still visit them on a regular basis, so in that regard I'm glad he went with ms, otherwise I wouldn't visit them regularly | 09:18 |
| Kilos | yeah win peeps are what keeps the economy going | 09:18 |
| rudi-is-me | they keep my economy going anyway. The one client I have with linux never phones me anymore :( | 09:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:21 |
| zipper | Kilos: What is a loco? | 09:24 |
| Kilos | local community i think | 09:25 |
| Kilos | its a small word with a big meaning | 09:25 |
| inetpro | 03/02 11:07:34 <Kilos> our loco has lug inside as well | 09:28 |
| inetpro | ^^ | 09:28 |
| Kilos | lugs | 09:29 |
| * inetpro very confused with that | 09:29 | |
| Kilos | we get dbnlug peeps here and the glug guys used to be here | 09:29 |
| Kilos | glug seems to have just about perished | 09:29 |
| inetpro | ah, now I understand better | 09:30 |
| Kilos | sorry for not doing it right | 09:30 |
| inetpro | glug is still alive, just not so much on IRC | 09:30 |
| Kilos | whats happened to glug | 09:30 |
| Kilos | #glug Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited | 09:31 |
| Kilos | who did that | 09:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: #glug.za man | 09:31 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 09:31 |
| Kilos | whew | 09:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: join the mailing list if you want to talk with glug peeps | 09:32 |
| Kilos | na im fine with you guys | 09:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7USLndZn | 09:43 |
| * ThatGraemeGuy cries | 09:43 | |
| Kilos | oh my ThatGraemeGuy is that an ssd | 09:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no | 09:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 1 of my external drives | 09:45 |
| Kilos | oh my | 09:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | slightly more than a year old, this might be the fastest a drive has flaked out on me ever | 09:45 |
| Kilos | try sudo fsck -f /dev/drive | 09:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm running ntfsfix, that's when all the errors started | 09:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | filesystem checking tools don't fix physical errors unfortunately | 09:47 |
| Kilos | ai! and still kinda new | 09:47 |
| Kilos | ok lets try | 09:47 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:47 |
| Kilos | run badblocks | 09:47 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I suspect you don't understand what an unrecovered read error is | 09:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | who's running specials on external drives these days? | 09:48 |
| Kilos | i have had drives that give i/o errors and with all the tools made them work longer | 09:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok | 09:49 |
| rudi-is-me | ThatGraemeGuy: where are you based? | 10:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | cape town | 10:11 |
| rudi-is-me | aha, maybe try somewhere like Esquire? | 10:12 |
| Eujean | Hi, does anyone know if the mirror is down or something? Seems to work fine with main server? | 10:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mmm don't you need a dealer account with esquire? o_O | 10:12 |
| Kilos | hi Eujean | 10:12 |
| rudi-is-me | I think you can get a daily pass or something like that | 10:13 |
| rudi-is-me | I know they have something like that here in GP | 10:13 |
| Kilos | Eujean just give me the link for our mirrior and the bot can check | 10:14 |
| Kilos | its actually supposed to be using the kenya server | 10:14 |
| rudi-is-me | otherwise you can check this ThatGraemeGuy http://www.makro.co.za/computing-and-mobile/hard-drives-EBC?sort=3&display=64 | 10:15 |
| rudi-is-me | btw what make was that drive? | 10:15 |
| Eujean | I was referring to http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ | 10:16 |
| Kilos | Maaz is http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ down | 10:17 |
| Kilos | oh my | 10:18 |
| rudi-is-me | it gives error 404 forbidden | 10:18 |
| Eujean | I also get 403 forbidden. But with http://archive.ubuntu.co/ubuntu/ it seems to work | 10:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | rudi-is-me: seagate | 10:18 |
| Kilos | <spotty> Yes, http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is down (403 Forbidden) | 10:19 |
| rudi-is-me | ThatGraemeGuy: I've read that their drives aren't as hot as they used to be, but I have no idea which ones are good these days. anyone here have an idea? | 10:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | meh, all drives fail, if you ask enough people you will come to the conclusion that every single manufacturer must be avoided like the plague | 10:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:21 |
| Kilos | Eujean i think main is also pointed to Symmetria s server | 10:22 |
| Kilos | Symmetria which 2 are pointed to you? | 10:23 |
| rudi-is-me | that was based on a survey and of all drives tested seagate had the highest fail rate of all, so it wasn't hear say | 10:24 |
| rudi-is-me | but I get what you're saying about opinions | 10:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | surveys are pointless | 10:25 |
| rudi-is-me | ok the, I have no point then | 10:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sorry, i'm just a grumpy old fart, you get used to it, ask Kilos | 10:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-D | 10:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:26 |
| rudi-is-me | I would also be grumpy if my drive gave the ghost :) | 10:27 |
| inetpro | Eujean: use http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/ | 10:27 |
| rudi-is-me | and we all have those days, me, I have them all too often | 10:27 |
| Kilos | he even gets grumpy when my things give probs | 10:28 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:28 |
| rudi-is-me | lol | 10:28 |
| Kilos | old age does strange things to peeps | 10:28 |
| Eujean | thanks inetpro will try now | 10:31 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy what size external are you looking for | 10:33 |
| Eujean | worked perfectly, thanks inetpro :) | 10:41 |
| zipper | Ha! I am trying to listen to Nirvana and read at the same time. I end up just drumming on the desk most of the time. | 10:44 |
| zipper | s/Ha!/haha/ | 10:44 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:44 |
| zipper | Their album "From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah" is sweet \o/ | 10:45 |
| inetpro | Eujean: you're welcome | 10:56 |
| Kilos | oh my is that me | 11:08 |
| qwebirc11563 | ya | 11:08 |
| magespawn | good afternoon | 11:35 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 11:42 |
| magespawn | i using one of the first programs iused to chat with mirc | 11:54 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:56 |
| Kilos | when you were still a win peep | 11:57 |
| magespawn | on that today | 12:03 |
| magespawn | that was back in the day, 1993-94. somewhere there | 12:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:06 |
| Kilos | i go try nap a while and see if it helps to stay up later | 12:07 |
| Kilos- | hi nl | 13:56 |
| Kilos- | nlsthzn also as well too | 13:57 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| nlsthzn | hey uncle Kilos | 13:57 |
| Kilos | you been gone long hey? | 13:57 |
| Kilos | you at work or home nlsthzn ?? | 13:59 |
| Kilos | https://trello.com/ | 13:59 |
| nlsthzn | currently at home uncle Kilos ... just been busy with this and that... | 13:59 |
| Kilos | here is a new this and that to do | 13:59 |
| nlsthzn | wife is very pregnant now and we are in the last few days / weeks ;) | 13:59 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 13:59 |
| nlsthzn | ugh another site that I need to sign up for :( | 14:00 |
| * nlsthzn can't see it happening :p | 14:00 | |
| Kilos | register at trello then give email addy | 14:00 |
| Kilos | then pro will add you in somewhere | 14:01 |
| Kilos | its a tool to arrange and sort out your life | 14:01 |
| nlsthzn | but why? | 14:01 |
| Kilos | will help with baby stuffs | 14:01 |
| Kilos | heehee | 14:01 |
| nlsthzn | like all those fitness machines it is pointless having any of them if you don't use them :p | 14:02 |
| Kilos | reminds you when to change nappies etc | 14:02 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 14:02 |
| nlsthzn | I am pretty sure I will be reminded :p | 14:02 |
| Kilos | anyway if you wanna be stubborn today thats fine | 14:02 |
| Kilos | we still waiting for your suggestions on the new website | 14:03 |
| Kilos | didnt you read the flys mail?? | 14:03 |
| Kilos | he needs ideas on what needs to go into the new site | 14:04 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/index.html | 14:04 |
| Kilos | his mail said something about writing stuffs then sending to him and he will use it | 14:05 |
| Kilos | so nou, jou beurt is jou beurt | 14:05 |
| nlsthzn | did see... like I was saying about pregnant wife, impending baby etc. etc. :p | 14:05 |
| nlsthzn | I will try soon | 14:05 |
| nlsthzn | just the next month or three may be a tad hectic | 14:06 |
| Kilos | all you can do atm is hold her hand and carry food and things to her | 14:06 |
| Kilos | dont forget anything or you will pay later | 14:07 |
| Kilos | haha another new neelsie coming | 14:17 |
| nlsthzn | :) yup | 14:19 |
| Kilos | one of these days i want to see a photo with you all in your turbans i think they call them | 14:25 |
| Kilos | and dresses and veils | 14:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:25 |
| nlsthzn | do have some when we went to the grand mosque | 14:27 |
| nlsthzn | who needs my trello user name? | 14:27 |
| nlsthzn | posted to G+ | 14:30 |
| Kilos | the pro | 14:30 |
| Kilos | or me | 14:30 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: you can post here also | 14:31 |
| Kilos | he adds peeps quick so i dont enter you 4 times like with mage | 14:31 |
| inetpro | or PM me | 14:31 |
| * Kilos ducks | 14:31 | |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: addded | 14:32 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 14:33 |
| Kilos | maybe a small welcoming card | 14:33 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco-basics | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | thanks inetpro | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | I saw the notifications on the site | 14:34 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: yw | 14:34 |
| Kilos | welcome to trellos ubuntu za | 14:34 |
| nlsthzn | I will play with the site a bit tomorrow, we are just about to leave for some food... | 14:35 |
| Kilos | ty nlsthzn enjoy | 14:35 |
| inetpro | enjoy! | 14:35 |
| Kilos | dates and camel milk | 14:35 |
| nlsthzn | almost :p | 14:35 |
| Kilos | cant be good for the figure methinks | 14:35 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 14:35 |
| nlsthzn | dunno, I am getting rather shapely (and with that I mean round) :p | 14:36 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 14:37 |
| Kilos | thats what i mean | 14:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: don't forget to congratulate magespawn, it's his birthday today | 14:38 |
| Kilos | not good means carrying extra weigh to wear out the feet | 14:38 |
| Kilos | oh ty inetpro | 14:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz tell magespawn Happy birthday our friend | 14:38 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode | 14:38 |
| Kilos | i used to get warnings about birthdays, i wonder what i did to lose that | 14:44 |
| Kilos | haha inetpro i moved the done card to the right is that ok? | 14:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I noticed, you got me lekker confused again | 14:53 |
| Kilos | well logically isnt the done stuff at the end? | 14:54 |
| inetpro | please don't have sleepless nights about it :-) | 14:55 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 14:55 |
| Kilos | you so cheeky | 14:55 |
| inetpro | the other stuff actually doesn't fit in there at all | 14:55 |
| Kilos | 2 days and some hours left | 14:55 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 14:55 |
| inetpro | I added that stuff before I realised how it should be done | 14:56 |
| Kilos | ya it gets too wide. we need to find a way to put cards under each other as well | 14:56 |
| Kilos | oh i see you also blunder along at times | 14:56 |
| Kilos | pity its not an ubuntu package them i could say man trello | 14:57 |
| inetpro | don't want too many lists on a board, we can always create more boards | 14:57 |
| Kilos | oh those are lists not cards | 14:57 |
| inetpro | yebo yes | 14:58 |
| Kilos | so where the cards went? | 15:00 |
| Kilos | see if to was under new ideas it would help | 15:01 |
| Kilos | to do | 15:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you not go through the "Welcome Board" tips? | 15:04 |
| Kilos | i think so but forgot everything | 15:05 |
| Kilos | im a greeter bot not a programmer or web designer | 15:05 |
| inetpro | Scroll horizontally by dragging the background of a board | 15:07 |
| Kilos | it said make as many lists as you need | 15:07 |
| inetpro | sorry, that one is listed under https://trello.com/resources | 15:07 |
| inetpro | under Tips | 15:08 |
| Kilos | sjoe you killing my opera | 15:08 |
| Kilos | tabs go way off the end of the page | 15:08 |
| Kilos | sjoe so many tips | 15:09 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 15:13 |
| Kilos | time you got trello | 15:13 |
| Kilos | https://trello.com/ | 15:13 |
| Kilos | register and give us your name or mail addy | 15:14 |
| Kilos | then you can see the ubuntu za page | 15:14 |
| Kilos | Squirm what about you lad? | 15:15 |
| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 15:17 |
| Trixar_za | Hello Kilos | 15:17 |
| Kilos | are you joining us on trello? | 15:18 |
| Kilos | you need a new toy methinks | 15:18 |
| Trixar_za | Oh that. No - it's pretty broken. | 15:20 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:20 |
| Kilos | tell the pro | 15:20 |
| Kilos | fix it | 15:20 |
| Trixar_za | I already registered, but I couldn't really get it work. Also no usable mobile interface. | 15:21 |
| Trixar_za | to* | 15:21 |
| Trixar_za | It's more pain that it's worth imho | 15:21 |
| Kilos | just give us your mail addy then you can see our page | 15:21 |
| Kilos | the pro is working there lots | 15:21 |
| Kilos | the main thing atm i think is to help the fly rebuild our website | 15:22 |
| Kilos | if everyone jumps in it will be done sooner | 15:23 |
| Kilos | oh Trixar_za did they accept your sakis3g | 15:23 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: yes, the mobile client seems to be very basic | 15:24 |
| inetpro | you have a better alternative? | 15:24 |
| inetpro | looks like many peeps are using Trello despite its weaknesses | 15:25 |
| Trixar_za | Kilos: No, they didn't. | 15:26 |
| Kilos | ai! whats their prob? | 15:26 |
| Trixar_za | And the last time somebody tried to invite me using my email - both of them - they couldn't. So my impression of Trello isn't very good. | 15:26 |
| Kilos | call your trix3g | 15:26 |
| Kilos | i think we done invite to our page we just add you | 15:27 |
| Kilos | dont invite | 15:27 |
| Trixar_za | I'm not sure there is a replacement for Trello - which would explain why people use it. You don't need to be the best if you're the only player in the game :P | 15:27 |
| Trixar_za | I prefer open systems that allow you to add yourself rather than make you or others jump through hoops to do so. Having specialized join request page and authentication by a group admin/moderator would be enough to keep unwanted people out of the group. | 15:30 |
| Kilos | well then the best way is to help them make it better | 15:30 |
| Trixar_za | Good luck with that | 15:31 |
| Kilos | lol that was meant for you man | 15:31 |
| Trixar_za | The sarcasm implies that I've already tried that. | 15:34 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 15:34 |
| Trixar_za | It was like reporting on a feature with mozilla | 15:34 |
| Trixar_za | And asking the ANC who's fault something is | 15:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:35 |
| Kilos | our page is coming along fine i think | 15:35 |
| Kilos | pro working hard there | 15:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: uh | 15:36 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: you asking me to make our page publicly accessible? | 15:36 |
| inetpro | or visible | 15:37 |
| Kilos | ohi TinuvaMac | 15:37 |
| Kilos | how well you know them mac things | 15:38 |
| inetpro | guess we have nothing to hide | 15:38 |
| Kilos | that could make it easier hey inetpro ? | 15:38 |
| Trixar_za | Have they atleast removed the stupid restriction of company domains only for registrations to an 'organization'? | 15:38 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: I changed it to public now, can you see it at https://trello.com/ubuntuza ? | 15:41 |
| * Kilos waves to tumbleweed | 15:42 | |
| Kilos | inetpro http://azloco.org | 15:48 |
| Kilos | is that what you want our login page to resemble | 15:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ask superfly | 15:49 |
| Kilos | i thought our old one was cool | 15:49 |
| Kilos | fly not herew | 15:49 |
| Kilos | here either | 15:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the look and feel is done already man | 15:50 |
| inetpro | a least the basic look and feel | 15:50 |
| Kilos | i dont see it | 15:50 |
| inetpro | http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/ | 15:50 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:50 |
| Kilos | the hello world one? | 15:51 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, I still don't like Trello even if they improved it since I last tried it. Like now, even after having had to recreate my account, there is NO way I can request to join your board or whatever it's called. | 15:52 |
| Kilos | cant you search for ubuntuza? | 15:52 |
| Trixar_za | Oh and it did not tell me that it sent an authentication email. Just grayed out the button. So I sat there for 5 minutes like a chop because somebody was too lazy to code a freaking notification. | 15:52 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:53 |
| Kilos | i get lots of mails from them | 15:53 |
| Trixar_za | Easy to use my ass | 15:54 |
| Kilos | thats weird, even i got in there | 15:54 |
| Kilos | give you addy lets try add you to us then we see | 15:55 |
| Trixar_za | No. If this was worth anything, it would have given me an option. Expecting any organisation to first communicate using an external service just so they can join a page on your software means it's not well implemented. | 15:56 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:58 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: I think I can agree with that but this is not really like joining an organisation, it's just a tool to help us get organised better | 15:58 |
| Trixar_za | By complicating things for people wanting to simplify and organise themselves? | 15:59 |
| inetpro | btw, I have now made the board public as well | 15:59 |
| Trixar_za | I know. I'm looking at it right now. It just doesn't give me any option to join. | 15:59 |
| inetpro | first time I do this, wasn't sure about all the options | 16:00 |
| Trixar_za | I'm just going to close this tab. It's like listening to Bok Radio's DJs talk - the idoicy just exasperate me. | 16:04 |
| Trixar_za | Bad design just feel like a personal insult :| | 16:04 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 16:06 |
| Kilos | bbl | 16:21 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 16:59 |
| magespawn | hey hey | 17:14 |
| Maaz | magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn Happy birthday our friend" 2 hours, 35 minutes and 31 seconds ago | 17:14 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos | 17:16 |
| Private_User | just sat down here now | 17:16 |
| Private_User | what is this trello about? | 17:17 |
| magespawn | hi Private_User | 17:18 |
| Private_User | hi magespawn | 17:18 |
| Private_User | is it really your birthday magespawn? | 17:18 |
| magespawn | unfortunately | 17:19 |
| Private_User | Happy Birthday!!! | 17:19 |
| magespawn | ty | 17:19 |
| Kilos | hi my magespawn happy happy lad | 17:19 |
| Kilos | how old now? | 17:19 |
| Kilos | how young also | 17:19 |
| magespawn | thanks Kilos | 17:19 |
| magespawn | 39 | 17:20 |
| Kilos | sjoe ballie time close | 17:20 |
| magespawn | just around the corner | 17:20 |
| Kilos | Private_User its a tool for organising stuff i think | 17:20 |
| magespawn | workflow collaboration tool | 17:21 |
| Kilos | read what the pro said about it | 17:21 |
| Kilos | ty magespawn | 17:21 |
| Kilos | you need to put a photo there | 17:21 |
| magespawn | i'll get around to it at some point | 17:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:22 |
| Kilos | evening superfly | 17:23 |
| Private_User | ok thanks Kilos | 17:23 |
| Private_User | thanks magespawn | 17:23 |
| magespawn | np | 17:23 |
| superfly | magespawn: happy birthday! | 17:46 |
| superfly | magespawn: 21 again? | 17:46 |
| inetpro | Happy Birthday magespawn | 17:47 |
| Kilos | hehe inetpro see if they can add a join button for those that find things difficult | 17:53 |
| * inetpro still not exactly sure why Trixar_za is so unhappy about the joining part | 18:05 | |
| Kilos | maybe hes having a bad mood day | 18:06 |
| inetpro | btw, I changed the main ubuntuza org page back to private but the LoCo board is public | 18:07 |
| inetpro | for now | 18:08 |
| inetpro | superfly: that ok with you? | 18:08 |
| Kilos | i dont mind | 18:08 |
| superfly | inetpro: whatevs | 18:08 |
| inetpro | didn't look cool to display all members there with permission status | 18:09 |
| inetpro | ok, so let's get cracking | 18:11 |
| inetpro | how about we tackle the new site's About page today? | 18:11 |
| inetpro | that would be http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/about.html | 18:12 |
| inetpro | what content would you like people to see when they land on this page? | 18:13 |
| Kilos | diverse group of people | 18:14 |
| Kilos | otherwise its good imo | 18:14 |
| Kilos | isnt set of peeps kinda wrong | 18:15 |
| superfly | inetpro: do we really need an about us page? is the jumbotron on the front page not enough? | 18:19 |
| inetpro | superfly: I was wondering about exactly that now | 18:19 |
| inetpro | at least I don't think we need the About page as well as the Contact page | 18:20 |
| Kilos | whats a jumbotron | 18:20 |
| inetpro | superfly: I say we keep either Contact or About | 18:21 |
| Kilos | those headings? | 18:21 |
| Kilos | they need to be in english | 18:21 |
| superfly | Kilos: the jumbotron is the big block on the front page with a big button in it | 18:21 |
| superfly | inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/mailing-list/+merge/248432 | 18:21 |
| Kilos | oh the hello world block | 18:22 |
| superfly | yes | 18:23 |
| Kilos | ya thats cool because that leads to everywhere else right? | 18:24 |
| superfly | inetpro: should we rename "contact us" to "get involved" ? | 18:24 |
| superfly | Kilos: that's the idea, yes | 18:24 |
| inetpro | superfly: good idea | 18:24 |
| Kilos | so going that route makes a site that open fast | 18:25 |
| Kilos | which is important in todays world | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:27 |
| inetpro | superfly: should I wait before I review? | 18:27 |
| inetpro | actually trying to find my notes from last time | 18:27 |
| superfly | inetpro: not at all. take a look, approve if you think my changes look good, and then I'll merge | 18:28 |
| superfly | unless you want to merge. | 18:28 |
| Kilos | we have 2 days to get something working there because the council will want to see something with flys application i think | 18:28 |
| * inetpro approved | 18:28 | |
| superfly | inetpro: do you want to merge, or do you want me to? | 18:30 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry_ | 18:30 |
| Tonberry_ | hi | 18:30 |
| inetpro | superfly: can you give me the steps again... maybe good if I do it | 18:30 |
| superfly | inetpro: go to your trunk directory | 18:31 |
| superfly | $ bzr up | 18:31 |
| superfly | $ bzr merge <remote branch> | 18:31 |
| superfly | $ bzr commit -m "<message>" | 18:31 |
| superfly | actually, $ bzr commit -m "<message>" --author="Author Name <author@name.com>" | 18:32 |
| inetpro | go to trunk would start with '$ cd ~/Projects/ubuntu-za/trunk' ? | 18:32 |
| superfly | ya | 18:32 |
| superfly | inetpro: so your merge command will look like this: $ bzr merge lp:~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/mailing-list | 18:33 |
| inetpro | ah | 18:33 |
| inetpro | ty | 18:33 |
| superfly | inetpro: the merge proposal page actually tells you the command to run | 18:35 |
| inetpro | done | 18:36 |
| superfly | woo! | 18:36 |
| superfly | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za-dev/ubuntu-za/website | 18:36 |
| superfly | see? it has my commit | 18:36 |
| inetpro | cool, now you need to do the Nikola thing | 18:37 |
| inetpro | before Kilos can see the latest change | 18:38 |
| superfly | will do, in a few | 18:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:38 |
| superfly | baby... | 18:38 |
| inetpro | haha | 18:38 |
| Kilos | im always in it even when im out of it | 18:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's a slow and clumsy process but we'll get there | 18:39 |
| Kilos | i am patient | 18:39 |
| Kilos | to a fault | 18:39 |
| Kilos | dont know what that actually means but it always sounded good | 18:40 |
| inetpro | superfly: what about captine's changes the other day? | 18:41 |
| inetpro | status is still Pending | 18:42 |
| superfly | inetpro: review them, but he probably needs to merge trunk into his branch, and then push up again | 18:43 |
| Kilos | hi kulelu88 | 18:45 |
| kulelu88 | hi hi | 18:45 |
| inetpro | superfly: done | 18:45 |
| superfly | http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/contact.html | 18:45 |
| kulelu88 | how much are .info domains? | 18:45 |
| inetpro | superfly: nice! | 18:46 |
| * inetpro likes the subscribe box sommer inside our site | 18:46 | |
| inetpro | wb magespawn | 18:47 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 18:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: do you see the change? | 18:47 |
| Kilos | nope | 18:48 |
| magespawn | ty | 18:48 |
| inetpro | refresh | 18:48 |
| superfly | Ctrl+F5 | 18:48 |
| superfly | inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/+merge/248434 | 18:48 |
| inetpro | approved | 18:49 |
| inetpro | superfly: shall I do the merge again? | 18:50 |
| superfly | inetpro: if you want to | 18:50 |
| superfly | let me know when you're done | 18:51 |
| inetpro | ok | 18:52 |
| inetpro | how do I add multiple lines in the message? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | -m "...\n..." ? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | superfly: ^^ | 18:53 |
| superfly | inetpro: uh, I think that might work. I usually use "qcommit" and type it in the GUI | 18:53 |
| inetpro | qcommit? | 18:53 |
| inetpro | that's something new | 18:53 |
| superfly | comes with qbzr | 18:53 |
| inetpro | interesting | 18:54 |
| superfly | sudo apt-get install qbzr | 18:54 |
| superfly | gives you gui dialogs | 18:54 |
| superfly | qlog | 18:54 |
| inetpro | Need to get 42,9 MB of archives | 18:55 |
| inetpro | getting there | 18:55 |
| inetpro | superfly: so what would the whole commit command look like? | 18:57 |
| inetpro | 85% | 18:57 |
| superfly | inetpro: $ bzr qcommit | 18:59 |
| inetpro | damn! | 18:59 |
| inetpro | superfly: I'm running in a VM :-( | 19:00 |
| superfly | yoish | 19:00 |
| inetpro | that was not very clever | 19:00 |
| inetpro | hang on two secs | 19:00 |
| * superfly looks for something to grab | 19:00 | |
| Kilos | lol | 19:01 |
| inetpro | superfly: Committed revision 10. | 19:08 |
| superfly | ah, finally! | 19:08 |
| inetpro | sorry for the delay | 19:08 |
| inetpro | \n didn't do it | 19:08 |
| inetpro | will find out about that | 19:09 |
| superfly | inetpro: that's why you just press <enter> in qcommit | 19:09 |
| inetpro | other option would be just to use vim as the editor | 19:09 |
| * inetpro is rusted | 19:10 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:10 |
| magespawn | sudo aptitude install qbzr | 19:10 |
| inetpro | magespawn: I'm running the branch on a server in a VM | 19:11 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 19:11 |
| superfly | inetpro: yep, don't specify an -m and it'll open up $EDITOR | 19:11 |
| magespawn | does get a bit confusing when working with more than one pc/windows etc | 19:12 |
| inetpro | we'll get there | 19:12 |
| magespawn | one question, why work in restructured text then convert it into html, why not just work in in html? | 19:14 |
| superfly | inetpro: captine's changed merged | 19:14 |
| superfly | magespawn: html, ugh. life's too short | 19:14 |
| superfly | magespawn: have you ever tried editing a technical document in HTML? | 19:14 |
| superfly | this is *WAY* more maintainable. AND non-technical people can also contribute. | 19:15 |
| magespawn | nope, what would qualify as a technical document? | 19:16 |
| inetpro | superfly: wow, we're on the roll today | 19:16 |
| superfly | inetpro: just stuff I've been doing here and there. | 19:16 |
| superfly | magespawn: have you seen the Python documentation? | 19:16 |
| magespawn | yes, i see | 19:17 |
| inetpro | superfly: let us know when you've updated with Nikola | 19:18 |
| superfly | OK, then I need to go after that. | 19:18 |
| magespawn | how do i check the installed nikola version again? | 19:18 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell captine http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/getting-involved.html | 19:20 |
| Maaz | superfly: Okay, I'll tell captine on freenode | 19:20 |
| inetpro | superfly: I can confirm that the subscription form works | 19:20 |
| * inetpro just tested | 19:20 | |
| superfly | inetpro: I know ;-) | 19:20 |
| superfly | magespawn: nikola --version | 19:20 |
| magespawn | ty | 19:20 |
| magespawn | which one do we need? | 19:21 |
| superfly | 7.1 | 19:21 |
| superfly | or, at least 7 | 19:21 |
| superfly | inetpro: I added a link to the forum in the "Social Media" list | 19:22 |
| inetpro | superfly: nice! Thanks | 19:22 |
| inetpro | now we can even give the forums a go again | 19:22 |
| magespawn | okay, cool beans, 7.0.1 | 19:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you not jumping up and down yet, what's wrong? | 19:23 |
| Kilos | lol im looking | 19:23 |
| Kilos | the learn more button still does go anywhere | 19:24 |
| Kilos | doesnt | 19:24 |
| inetpro | learn more button? | 19:25 |
| inetpro | oh, on the home page | 19:25 |
| Kilos | ya that jumbo thing | 19:25 |
| inetpro | ya man relax, we updated everything else except the home page | 19:26 |
| magespawn | i forget the link | 19:29 |
| inetpro | magespawn: https://trello.com/ | 19:29 |
| magespawn | not that one, the one where the temp site is | 19:30 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:30 |
| Kilos | its in there i think | 19:31 |
| inetpro | magespawn: http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/ | 19:31 |
| magespawn | ty | 19:31 |
| Kilos | so where is captines stuff? | 19:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz seen captine | 19:32 |
| Maaz | Kilos: captine was last seen 1 day, 16 hours, 49 minutes and 52 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-01 18:42:19 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-01 20:49:08 PST | 19:32 |
| inetpro | Kilos: http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/getting-involved.html | 19:32 |
| Kilos | ty | 19:32 |
| Kilos | oh thats cool | 19:33 |
| Kilos | methunk fly dunnit | 19:33 |
| inetpro | clever hey? | 19:33 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:34 |
| magespawn | looking good | 19:35 |
| Kilos | nice and fast too | 19:37 |
| magespawn | another question, if you create a site with nikola, can you edit the html afterwards? | 19:38 |
| magespawn | a bit pointless i know, just curious | 19:39 |
| magespawn | if i can learn how to work this properly i will be redoing all the company websites with it | 19:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe you too old to learn all this new stuffs | 19:41 |
| magespawn | joomla is too much, and the security of the sites is a nightmare | 19:41 |
| magespawn | never too old to learn Kilos | 19:41 |
| Kilos | oh only after next year | 19:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:42 |
| magespawn | just sometimes takes longer | 19:42 |
| Kilos | you need to save everything them 2 talk about | 19:43 |
| magespawn | and dedicate some time to learning it | 19:43 |
| magespawn | but right now it is bedtime | 19:43 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:43 |
| Kilos | lol night magespawn sleep tight | 19:44 |
| kulelu88 | Maaz seen spinza | 19:44 |
| Maaz | kulelu88: spinza was last seen 24 days, 5 hours, 27 minutes and 12 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-10 06:17:18 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-02-03 09:17:13 PST | 19:44 |
| kulelu88 | Maaz seen cocooncrash | 19:44 |
| Maaz | kulelu88: cocooncrash was last seen 6 months, 26 days, 2 hours, 1 minute and 22 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-07-12 10:43:21 PDT], and has been online on atrum since 2015-01-28 13:13:20 PST | 19:44 |
| kulelu88 | :-/ | 19:44 |
| Kilos | the crash kid doesnt have time anymore | 19:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: now you can even see superfly's tutorial here: http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/bazaar-tutorial.html | 19:45 |
| Kilos | just manages to fix maaz when it breaks | 19:45 |
| inetpro | no need to save everything we say here | 19:45 |
| Kilos | didnt i tell maaz to remember that | 19:45 |
| inetpro | it has never been online like this | 19:46 |
| inetpro | superfly: now we just need your nikola tutorial as well :-) | 19:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:47 |
| inetpro | I really like this man | 19:47 |
| inetpro | very cool | 19:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz fly.bazaar | 19:48 |
| Maaz | http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/bazaar-tutorial.html | 19:48 |
| Kilos | now we need fly.nikola | 19:49 |
| inetpro | oh, ok | 19:49 |
| inetpro | never too old to learn something new | 19:49 |
| inetpro | eish! | 19:50 |
| Kilos | wat nou? | 19:50 |
| Kilos | what did you break | 19:50 |
| * inetpro being doff again... obviously it was there, I even posted the link on trello | 19:50 | |
| Kilos | oh we can share the addy again, im not doing stupid things atm | 19:51 |
| inetpro | getting confused because it was not merged into the bzr project yet | 19:51 |
| Kilos | so its just the home page now? | 19:51 |
| inetpro | well, and anything else you want to change | 19:52 |
| Kilos | not me i follow the leaders | 19:52 |
| Kilos | maybe a link to blogs will be good | 19:52 |
| inetpro | I think we need a tutorials page | 19:52 |
| Kilos | we can all start new blogs | 19:52 |
| Kilos | ya that too | 19:53 |
| Kilos | poor fly got so much work | 19:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the way he has done it is exactly meant to save him time | 19:54 |
| Kilos | haha there is a good add on the idiot box | 19:55 |
| Kilos | laatie does lots of his moms work for her so she can have time to attend his play | 19:55 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: look at this one: http://www.ubuntu.org.zw/node/7 | 19:59 |
| Kilos | inetpro i tried to contact them, i think they are dead | 20:02 |
| inetpro | ah | 20:02 |
| Kilos | even mails cant be delivered | 20:04 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro you can put rep of congo in the networking list too | 20:08 |
| Kilos | arnaud is there | 20:08 |
| inetpro | uh, you are welcome to do it sir | 20:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:08 |
| Kilos | ok lemme try | 20:08 |
| Kilos | at least i have you to fix it | 20:08 |
| inetpro | right there where I added: "add more here" | 20:09 |
| inetpro | did that for you | 20:09 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 20:10 |
| Kilos | did it work? | 20:10 |
| inetpro | yep, as easy as that | 20:10 |
| Kilos | cool beans | 20:10 |
| inetpro | have you linked them yet? | 20:10 |
| Kilos | who always says that | 20:10 |
| Kilos | well isnt them agreeing to be linked to us linking them | 20:11 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 20:11 |
| inetpro | so you had a conversation? | 20:12 |
| Kilos | of course | 20:12 |
| Kilos | arnaud said we can help him setup a loco as soon as they have all got launchpad goodies | 20:13 |
| inetpro | ahh | 20:13 |
| Kilos | i think he has some peeps more raw than i am | 20:14 |
| inetpro | now go add more of them on the list who you still want to connect with | 20:14 |
| inetpro | gotta set some goals here sir | 20:14 |
| Kilos | the fly said dont rush | 20:14 |
| Kilos | 2 is enough for starters | 20:15 |
| inetpro | of course, no rush needed, but you can list them so long, unless you want to forget again | 20:15 |
| Kilos | the end goal is to link the whole of africa | 20:15 |
| Kilos | and sticky is going to give me more info after he has been to some neighbouring countries on work | 20:16 |
| inetpro | well there's a list of African LoCos at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ | 20:16 |
| Kilos | hi octoquad | 20:17 |
| Kilos | ty for that | 20:17 |
| inetpro | we just need to try get them all Verified again | 20:18 |
| kulelu88 | start with namibia, bots, kenya | 20:19 |
| inetpro | or at least some of them | 20:19 |
| Kilos | ill contact them over time and see what can be done | 20:19 |
| Kilos | namibia has 6 members and they dont answer queries even when directed to their admin guys | 20:19 |
| Kilos | remember i said you should approach them in german | 20:20 |
| Kilos | ill try joining them next and using afrikaans | 20:20 |
| Kilos | one aunty has some nice blogs | 20:21 |
| Kilos | mainly about farming | 20:21 |
| Kilos | veggies | 20:21 |
| Kilos | inetpro how does on reverify locos? | 20:28 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 20:28 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:28 |
| Kilos | that was hard work | 20:28 |
| Kilos | maybe better to go with verified locos first | 20:29 |
| Kilos | anyway. night all. sleep tight | 20:29 |
| inetpro | that should not be your biggest worry, just try to get contacts first and let them worry about the verification | 20:30 |
| inetpro | all they need is a little bit of motivation | 20:30 |
| octoquad | hey Kilos :) | 20:37 |
| inetpro | hmm... he lost connectivity? | 20:46 |
| inetpro | oh no, he actually said good night | 20:46 |
| inetpro | that was too quick | 20:46 |
| inetpro | superfly: thanks for telling us about qbzr | 21:09 |
| inetpro | qlog is brilliant | 21:09 |
| superfly | yw | 21:10 |
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