[04:43] More almal [05:40] I'll just leave this here: http://www.xkcd.com/ [06:35] good mornings [06:39] o/ oh hi [06:47] Morning, d00ds and d00dettes. [06:47] Raise your hand if you've been to Rwanda. [06:54] Does google earth count stickyboy [07:06] lol [07:06] * nuvolari does'nt think it does [07:06] dem [07:06] waar is oom kilos vanoggend? :-/ [07:07] ook al gewonder hoop hy is ok [07:34] lo [07:56] morning superfly inetpro rudi-is-me ThatGraemeGuy and others [07:56] Hi Kilos [07:56] ohi [07:58] Hi Kilos jy darem besluit om op te staan gedag daar is fout [07:59] hi bduk [07:59] hi Kilos [08:00] bduk skape is al uit, kerrie kook lekker, en baie dubbeltjies al uit gegrow [08:01] Klink lekker maar jy moet eerste kom groet anders worry ons [08:01] skuus man [08:08] Kilos: ai! [08:09] you don't greet your friends from up north? :-) [08:09] ai! [08:09] hi stickyboy [08:10] hi zipper [08:11] Kilos: Hey :) [08:11] i must learn to start using smileys i spose [08:15] Kilos: lol only if the wanting to know comes from within you :) [08:15] lol [08:16] i like pidgin because i can see the pics, here i must remember the code for them [08:16] irc on pidgin is hard work with other im services too [08:24] Kilos: Hola [08:24] irssi 4 lyfe [08:25] lol [08:36] hi [08:37] inetpro please give an explanation of what trello kan do for us [08:37] s/kan/can [08:38] will help getting others to join ons they can see your plan [08:38] s/ons/us [08:38] sjoe geeting my tales mixed up today [08:40] getting [08:51] don't worry, it's still early :) [08:52] lol [08:57] Kilos: Trello can help us to get organised so we can be more effective [08:59] you will notice that I have moved lists around to be more logical [08:59] we now have different lists for: New Ideas, To Do, Current Activities and Done [08:59] yes i see that [09:00] hi drussell hows ya? [09:00] Kilos: maybe you can help us by taking some of the suggestions made at the meeting and add them as cards under "New ideas" [09:01] o/ oh hi oom Kilos [09:01] hi nuvolari ek wag vir jou [09:01] jy moet trello kry [09:01] ek't vir oom ge-hangout [09:02] https://trello.com/ [09:02] ek het dit oom [09:02] ek is @johanmynhardt [09:02] lol ok dankie ek sien dit op pidgin gewoonlik' [09:02] watter naam het jy gegee? Johan? [09:03] gegee waarvoor? [09:03] lol [09:03] sjoe [09:04] wel , dit wys n niek of naam wat jy daar insit [09:04] Kilos: I added him now [09:04] i see him ty inetpro [09:05] nuvolari https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco-basics [09:05] oi [09:05] * stickyboy starts a rival Arch Linux LoCo [09:06] do they even have locos? [09:06] stickyboy: go for it [09:06] :D [09:07] I'm into LUGs, not LoCos. :P [09:07] stickyboy: we don't compete [09:07] our loco has lug inside as well [09:07] * inetpro is also a sleeping member of GLUG [09:08] Kilos: don't confuse me man [09:08] the whole idea stickyboy is to grow linux [09:08] Kilos: We can grow Linux by getting Tux tattoos on our foreheads. [09:09] its a step up for lug members to join a loco [09:09] ai! [09:09] hehe [09:09] stickyboy the world out there is basically ignorant about linux [09:09] Kilos: Yah [09:10] some are as far as saying oh the server thing [09:14] inetpro what did i say that was confusing to a person of your calibre [09:14] i didnt say anything about mechanics or farming [09:15] I had a client who was busy setting up an office with a few workstations and a server. He asked me if there was another option re the expensive lic fees for the workstations and server. I told him about Ubuntu and he sounded really interested, especially after I told him that it's way more stable. When he asked what it was going to cost him, I replied that the OS won't cost him a cent, he... [09:15] ...said well in that case it can't be worth it [09:15] let's for of ms [09:16] lol [09:16] the world is full of idiots as well [09:17] I think we all have a bit of idiot in us, some just have more than others :) [09:17] haha [09:17] you need to change your approach to peeps like that [09:18] take a lappy with and demo ubuntu and emphasize the no virus threat bit too [09:18] he went with vista and I still visit them on a regular basis, so in that regard I'm glad he went with ms, otherwise I wouldn't visit them regularly [09:18] yeah win peeps are what keeps the economy going [09:19] they keep my economy going anyway. The one client I have with linux never phones me anymore :( [09:21] lol [09:24] Kilos: What is a loco? [09:25] local community i think [09:25] its a small word with a big meaning [09:28] 03/02 11:07:34 our loco has lug inside as well [09:28] ^^ [09:29] lugs [09:29] * inetpro very confused with that [09:29] we get dbnlug peeps here and the glug guys used to be here [09:29] glug seems to have just about perished [09:30] ah, now I understand better [09:30] sorry for not doing it right [09:30] glug is still alive, just not so much on IRC [09:30] whats happened to glug [09:31] #glug Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited [09:31] who did that [09:31] Kilos: #glug.za man [09:31] oh ya [09:31] whew [09:32] Kilos: join the mailing list if you want to talk with glug peeps [09:32] na im fine with you guys [09:43] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7USLndZn [09:43] * ThatGraemeGuy cries [09:45] oh my ThatGraemeGuy is that an ssd [09:45] no [09:45] 1 of my external drives [09:45] oh my [09:45] slightly more than a year old, this might be the fastest a drive has flaked out on me ever [09:46] try sudo fsck -f /dev/drive [09:46] i'm running ntfsfix, that's when all the errors started [09:47] filesystem checking tools don't fix physical errors unfortunately [09:47] ai! and still kinda new [09:47] ok lets try [09:47] hmm... [09:47] run badblocks [09:48] I suspect you don't understand what an unrecovered read error is [09:48] who's running specials on external drives these days? [09:48] i have had drives that give i/o errors and with all the tools made them work longer [09:49] ok [10:11] ThatGraemeGuy: where are you based? [10:11] cape town [10:12] aha, maybe try somewhere like Esquire? [10:12] Hi, does anyone know if the mirror is down or something? Seems to work fine with main server? [10:12] mmm don't you need a dealer account with esquire? o_O [10:12] hi Eujean [10:13] I think you can get a daily pass or something like that [10:13] I know they have something like that here in GP [10:14] Eujean just give me the link for our mirrior and the bot can check [10:14] its actually supposed to be using the kenya server [10:15] otherwise you can check this ThatGraemeGuy http://www.makro.co.za/computing-and-mobile/hard-drives-EBC?sort=3&display=64 [10:15] btw what make was that drive? [10:16] I was referring to http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [10:17] Maaz is http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ down [10:18] oh my [10:18] it gives error 404 forbidden [10:18] I also get 403 forbidden. But with http://archive.ubuntu.co/ubuntu/ it seems to work [10:18] rudi-is-me: seagate [10:19] Yes, http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is down (403 Forbidden) [10:19] ThatGraemeGuy: I've read that their drives aren't as hot as they used to be, but I have no idea which ones are good these days. anyone here have an idea? [10:20] meh, all drives fail, if you ask enough people you will come to the conclusion that every single manufacturer must be avoided like the plague [10:21] lol [10:22] Eujean i think main is also pointed to Symmetria s server [10:23] Symmetria which 2 are pointed to you? [10:24] that was based on a survey and of all drives tested seagate had the highest fail rate of all, so it wasn't hear say [10:25] but I get what you're saying about opinions [10:25] surveys are pointless [10:26] ok the, I have no point then [10:26] sorry, i'm just a grumpy old fart, you get used to it, ask Kilos [10:26] :-D [10:26] lol [10:27] I would also be grumpy if my drive gave the ghost :) [10:27] Eujean: use http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/ [10:27] and we all have those days, me, I have them all too often [10:28] he even gets grumpy when my things give probs [10:28] hehe [10:28] lol [10:28] old age does strange things to peeps [10:31] thanks inetpro will try now [10:33] ThatGraemeGuy what size external are you looking for [10:41] worked perfectly, thanks inetpro :) [10:44] Ha! I am trying to listen to Nirvana and read at the same time. I end up just drumming on the desk most of the time. [10:44] s/Ha!/haha/ [10:44] hehe [10:45] Their album "From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah" is sweet \o/ [10:56] Eujean: you're welcome [11:08] oh my is that me [11:08] ya [11:35] good afternoon [11:42] hi magespawn [11:54] i using one of the first programs iused to chat with mirc [11:56] lol [11:57] when you were still a win peep [12:03] on that today [12:06] that was back in the day, 1993-94. somewhere there [12:06] lol [12:07] i go try nap a while and see if it helps to stay up later [13:56] hi nl [13:57] nlsthzn also as well too === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [13:57] hey uncle Kilos [13:57] you been gone long hey? [13:59] you at work or home nlsthzn ?? [13:59] https://trello.com/ [13:59] currently at home uncle Kilos ... just been busy with this and that... [13:59] here is a new this and that to do [13:59] wife is very pregnant now and we are in the last few days / weeks ;) [13:59] sjoe [14:00] ugh another site that I need to sign up for :( [14:00] * nlsthzn can't see it happening :p [14:00] register at trello then give email addy [14:01] then pro will add you in somewhere [14:01] its a tool to arrange and sort out your life [14:01] but why? [14:01] will help with baby stuffs [14:01] heehee [14:02] like all those fitness machines it is pointless having any of them if you don't use them :p [14:02] reminds you when to change nappies etc [14:02] hahaha [14:02] I am pretty sure I will be reminded :p [14:02] anyway if you wanna be stubborn today thats fine [14:03] we still waiting for your suggestions on the new website [14:03] didnt you read the flys mail?? [14:04] he needs ideas on what needs to go into the new site [14:04] http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/index.html [14:05] his mail said something about writing stuffs then sending to him and he will use it [14:05] so nou, jou beurt is jou beurt [14:05] did see... like I was saying about pregnant wife, impending baby etc. etc. :p [14:05] I will try soon [14:06] just the next month or three may be a tad hectic [14:06] all you can do atm is hold her hand and carry food and things to her [14:07] dont forget anything or you will pay later [14:17] haha another new neelsie coming [14:19] :) yup [14:25] one of these days i want to see a photo with you all in your turbans i think they call them [14:25] and dresses and veils [14:25] hehe [14:27] do have some when we went to the grand mosque [14:27] who needs my trello user name? [14:30] posted to G+ [14:30] the pro [14:30] or me [14:31] nlsthzn: you can post here also [14:31] he adds peeps quick so i dont enter you 4 times like with mage [14:31] or PM me [14:31] * Kilos ducks [14:32] nlsthzn: addded [14:33] hmm... [14:33] maybe a small welcoming card [14:33] nlsthzn https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco-basics [14:33] thanks inetpro [14:34] I saw the notifications on the site [14:34] nlsthzn: yw [14:34] welcome to trellos ubuntu za [14:35] I will play with the site a bit tomorrow, we are just about to leave for some food... [14:35] ty nlsthzn enjoy [14:35] enjoy! [14:35] dates and camel milk [14:35] almost :p [14:35] cant be good for the figure methinks [14:35] hee hee [14:36] dunno, I am getting rather shapely (and with that I mean round) :p [14:37] hahaha [14:38] thats what i mean [14:38] Kilos: don't forget to congratulate magespawn, it's his birthday today [14:38] not good means carrying extra weigh to wear out the feet [14:38] oh ty inetpro [14:38] Maaz tell magespawn Happy birthday our friend [14:38] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [14:44] i used to get warnings about birthdays, i wonder what i did to lose that [14:52] haha inetpro i moved the done card to the right is that ok? [14:53] Kilos: I noticed, you got me lekker confused again [14:54] well logically isnt the done stuff at the end? [14:55] please don't have sleepless nights about it :-) [14:55] hahaha [14:55] you so cheeky [14:55] the other stuff actually doesn't fit in there at all [14:55] 2 days and some hours left [14:55] sjoe [14:56] I added that stuff before I realised how it should be done [14:56] ya it gets too wide. we need to find a way to put cards under each other as well [14:56] oh i see you also blunder along at times [14:57] pity its not an ubuntu package them i could say man trello [14:57] don't want too many lists on a board, we can always create more boards [14:57] oh those are lists not cards [14:58] yebo yes [15:00] so where the cards went? [15:01] see if to was under new ideas it would help [15:01] to do [15:04] Kilos: did you not go through the "Welcome Board" tips? [15:05] i think so but forgot everything [15:05] im a greeter bot not a programmer or web designer [15:07] Scroll horizontally by dragging the background of a board [15:07] it said make as many lists as you need [15:07] sorry, that one is listed under https://trello.com/resources [15:08] under Tips [15:08] sjoe you killing my opera [15:08] tabs go way off the end of the page [15:09] sjoe so many tips [15:13] hi Private_User [15:13] time you got trello [15:13] https://trello.com/ [15:14] register and give us your name or mail addy [15:14] then you can see the ubuntu za page [15:15] Squirm what about you lad? [15:17] hi Trixar_za [15:17] Hello Kilos [15:18] are you joining us on trello? [15:18] you need a new toy methinks [15:20] Oh that. No - it's pretty broken. [15:20] ai! [15:20] tell the pro [15:20] fix it [15:21] I already registered, but I couldn't really get it work. Also no usable mobile interface. [15:21] to* [15:21] It's more pain that it's worth imho [15:21] just give us your mail addy then you can see our page [15:21] the pro is working there lots [15:22] the main thing atm i think is to help the fly rebuild our website [15:23] if everyone jumps in it will be done sooner [15:23] oh Trixar_za did they accept your sakis3g [15:24] Trixar_za: yes, the mobile client seems to be very basic [15:24] you have a better alternative? [15:25] looks like many peeps are using Trello despite its weaknesses [15:26] Kilos: No, they didn't. [15:26] ai! whats their prob? [15:26] And the last time somebody tried to invite me using my email - both of them - they couldn't. So my impression of Trello isn't very good. [15:26] call your trix3g [15:27] i think we done invite to our page we just add you [15:27] dont invite [15:27] I'm not sure there is a replacement for Trello - which would explain why people use it. You don't need to be the best if you're the only player in the game :P [15:30] I prefer open systems that allow you to add yourself rather than make you or others jump through hoops to do so. Having specialized join request page and authentication by a group admin/moderator would be enough to keep unwanted people out of the group. [15:30] well then the best way is to help them make it better [15:31] Good luck with that [15:31] lol that was meant for you man [15:34] The sarcasm implies that I've already tried that. [15:34] hahaha [15:34] It was like reporting on a feature with mozilla [15:34] And asking the ANC who's fault something is [15:35] lol [15:35] our page is coming along fine i think [15:35] pro working hard there [15:36] Kilos: uh [15:36] Trixar_za: you asking me to make our page publicly accessible? [15:37] or visible [15:37] ohi TinuvaMac [15:38] how well you know them mac things [15:38] guess we have nothing to hide [15:38] that could make it easier hey inetpro ? [15:38] Have they atleast removed the stupid restriction of company domains only for registrations to an 'organization'? [15:41] Trixar_za: I changed it to public now, can you see it at https://trello.com/ubuntuza ? [15:42] * Kilos waves to tumbleweed [15:48] inetpro http://azloco.org [15:49] is that what you want our login page to resemble [15:49] Kilos: ask superfly [15:49] i thought our old one was cool [15:49] fly not herew [15:49] here either [15:50] Kilos: the look and feel is done already man [15:50] a least the basic look and feel [15:50] i dont see it [15:50] http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/ [15:50] ai! [15:51] the hello world one? [15:52] Yeah, I still don't like Trello even if they improved it since I last tried it. Like now, even after having had to recreate my account, there is NO way I can request to join your board or whatever it's called. [15:52] cant you search for ubuntuza? [15:52] Oh and it did not tell me that it sent an authentication email. Just grayed out the button. So I sat there for 5 minutes like a chop because somebody was too lazy to code a freaking notification. [15:53] oh my [15:53] i get lots of mails from them [15:54] Easy to use my ass [15:54] thats weird, even i got in there [15:55] give you addy lets try add you to us then we see [15:56] No. If this was worth anything, it would have given me an option. Expecting any organisation to first communicate using an external service just so they can join a page on your software means it's not well implemented. [15:58] ai! [15:58] Trixar_za: I think I can agree with that but this is not really like joining an organisation, it's just a tool to help us get organised better [15:59] By complicating things for people wanting to simplify and organise themselves? [15:59] btw, I have now made the board public as well [15:59] I know. I'm looking at it right now. It just doesn't give me any option to join. [16:00] first time I do this, wasn't sure about all the options [16:04] I'm just going to close this tab. It's like listening to Bok Radio's DJs talk - the idoicy just exasperate me. [16:04] Bad design just feel like a personal insult :| [16:06] hmm... [16:21] bbl [16:59] i go eat [17:14] hey hey [17:14] magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn Happy birthday our friend" 2 hours, 35 minutes and 31 seconds ago [17:16] hi Kilos [17:16] just sat down here now [17:17] what is this trello about? [17:18] hi Private_User [17:18] hi magespawn [17:18] is it really your birthday magespawn? [17:19] unfortunately [17:19] Happy Birthday!!! [17:19] ty [17:19] hi my magespawn happy happy lad [17:19] how old now? [17:19] how young also [17:19] thanks Kilos [17:20] 39 [17:20] sjoe ballie time close [17:20] just around the corner [17:20] Private_User its a tool for organising stuff i think [17:21] workflow collaboration tool [17:21] read what the pro said about it [17:21] ty magespawn [17:21] you need to put a photo there [17:22] i'll get around to it at some point [17:22] lol [17:23]