[00:01] <profeten> +6667
[00:06] <Dlabz> jhutchins: ok, figured out how to get the source. Can you, please guid me, or point me to a relevant tutorial?
[00:12] <pakedge> quit
[00:18] <Guest55364> ?
[00:19] <michaelwong54> HELPO
[00:19] <michaelwong54> ME
[00:19] <michaelwong54> I wiLL EGHieb
[00:39] <AHMED_FAROOQ> hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby 35 male baby whats ur a/s/l baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby
[00:39] <EriC^> AHMED_FAROOQ: /join ##linux
[00:52] <krainier> Hello, anyone here really adept at UEFI boot?
[00:53] <krainier> I am failing to get ubuntu 14 or mint 17 to boot after following many help procedures
[00:53] <krainier> bootrepair does not work
[00:53] <EriC^> krainier: are you in a live session right now?
[00:54] <krainier> I have one going, not on this chat
[00:54] <krainier> so I don't have to reboot and lose the window:)
[00:54] <EriC^> ok, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[00:54] <EriC^> paste the link here
[00:55] <EriC^> krainier: is it a hp laptop? toshiba?
[00:55] <krainier> it is a zotac AD11 mini PC, UEFI only, no legacy support
[00:55] <EriC^> okay
[00:56] <EriC^> are you dual booting with windows?
[00:57] <krainier> nope, just want a clean install, confirmed UEFI mode before running each previous install
[00:57] <EriC^> ok
[00:58] <TJ-> krainier: Is this your problem report? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263428
[01:00] <krainier> yep!
[01:00] <ablest1980> is there anysetting to improve internet connection in ubuntu
[01:00] <TJ-> krainier: Good. The boot info output is helpful
[01:00] <krainier> it is not the most current, this is http://paste2.org/_6j37m3gC
[01:01] <krainier> been trying multiple configurations
[01:01] <krainier> I can get back there if that is a closer setup
[01:02] <EriC^> efibootmgr -v looks screwy unless boot repair parses it that way
[01:02] <dingus1> I dual boot ubuntu 14.10 with the lxde (lubuntu) desktop and windows millenum edition
[01:02] <dingus1> It works fine.
[01:02] <EriC^> Boot0000* ubuntu	HD(2,1000,f3800,0642990c-88b3-49ae-9a67-ff826051b91f)File(EFIubuntushimx64.efi)
[01:02] <krainier> I have also manually installed grub with the chroot method, installed elilo and registered with efibootmgr, and tried both .efi files in Microsoft default boot path
[01:02] <EriC^> krainier: type sudo efibootmgr -v , does it say EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi ?
[01:03] <ablest1980> i used to have window me on a compaq presario 900mhz cpu
[01:03] <explodingmango> I'm going to do some tests which will probably crash my computer so bad I can't reboot it with SysRq. Is there any way to perform such a crash "safely"? Probably the best sign of safety is not having to check the disk on reboot
[01:03] <krainier> yes, under the ubuntu entry
[01:04] <yusuf1> i have userA and userB without sudo privileges , can i run script as userA from userB ?
[01:04] <EriC^> krainier: what happens when you boot?
[01:05] <krainier> please insert boot media, no boot to grub
[01:06] <mutante> so, between precise and trusty, did the vim related packages change and their dependencies or something? it seems on precise i got vim,vim-common,vim-tiny,vim-runtime  and on trusty i only get vim-common and vim-tiny, but still have no /usr/bin/vim, while in both cases i just installed "vim"
[01:06] <EriC^> krainier: if you press esc or something similar to get a boot options menu, does selecting ubuntu do the same thing?
[01:07] <EriC^> krainier: did the pc come preinstalled with win8?
[01:07] <krainier> no, the bios screen flashes and does not load anything
[01:07] <rosaecaeruleae> can you help me with openshot? I cannot export with sound, but the edited file has sound. I have tried mp4 and other formats, but nothing
[01:07] <krainier> if I select the SDD, then it jumps to boot media request
[01:09] <krainier> EriC^ no win 8, clean SSD
[01:11] <krainier> I did install ubuntu in BIOS mode the first go 'round
[01:11] <somsip> mutante: got everything available here in 14.04 - do a 'apt-cache search vim-' to check
[01:11] <cdidd> Could someone please explain following mystery: I created Ubuntu daily vivid bootable usb with startup disk creator, booted said usb in trial mode, encountered nonworking system without WM,
[01:12] <krainier> but have since destroyed all partition tables, created new and did fresh installs
[01:12] <EriC^> krainier: can you get an EFI shell?
[01:12] <krainier> in msdos and gpt format
[01:12] <krainier> there is an option, but I can't get that to load successfully either
[01:12] <cdidd> But it's not important. What is important is that booting daily messed up with my system grub somehow
[01:12] <TJ-> krainier: I think you need to manually delete the existing ubuntu entry ("sudo efibootmgr --delete-bootnum 0000") and replace it with one using a correct path ("sudo efibootmgr --create -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "Lubuntu" -p 2 -d /dev/sdb"). Then, try rebooting and using the firmware boot menu to start ubuntu. If that works, you can set that entry as the default so it is used automatically in future
[01:12] <mutante> somsip: thanks for checking, i just realized it was a problem with the configuration management i use instead
[01:12] <somsip> mutante: ok
[01:13] <TJ-> krainier: slight typo... it should be: -L "ubuntu" (not "Lubuntu")
[01:14] <krainier> check, will report back in a min
[01:15] <TJ-> krainier: If that solves it, we have to wonder why the path being written isn't escaping the slashes in the path
[01:17] <dingus1> haha, I can give you the specs for my old p3 866mhz 512ram. it runs win me and ubuntu 14.10 just fine.
[01:18] <LostNva> Can anyone recommend a room for a problem with upstart vs sysvinit, im using kali linux (Deb.Wheezy)that uses sysvinit, trying to run plex media server that uses upstart to start script.
[01:19] <daftykins> dingus1: i dread to think what your idea of 'fine' is for an OS :)
[01:19] <bazhang> try #plex if they have a channel LostNva
[01:19] <daftykins> 512MB of RAM is a terrible state of affairs for 2015
[01:19] <bazhang> !alis | LostNva
[01:20] <krainier> @TJ @EriC no boot
[01:20] <daftykins> LostNva: 1) trying to use a media player program on a pen testing distro 2) asking about that in another distros channel ;D
[01:20] <TJ-> krainier: OK... can you use the live environment to run "sudo efibootmgr -v" again, and check the path separators are there
[01:21] <EriC^> krainier: did you try disabling secure boot?
[01:21] <krainier> sure
[01:21] <TJ-> krainier: If not, then something is doing some path interpretation
[01:21] <TAPED> #ubuntu
[01:21] <krainier> EriC, not secure boot option found in firmware, but grub booting from a USB informs me it is disabled
[01:21] <LostNva> yes I know,was hoping someone would know a room, will try plex. Its a pen test distro, but is complete system I do everything with it. Thanks
[01:22] <krainier> no*
[01:23] <lovedeatm> hey all, i have a couple of questions, i'm new to ubuntu and linux in general and i need some assistance
[01:23] <EriC^> krainier: ok, after you check the path in efibootmgr, try to mount the efi partition and check the files are there
[01:23] <lovedeatm> first i need to remove grub or more to the point grub rescue from my machine
[01:23] <EriC^> krainier: i think it's something fishy to do with your bios/efi/ssd setup
[01:23] <EriC^> krainier: try to get an efi shell if you can
[01:24] <daftykins> lovedeatm: remove it? if you're seeing grub rescue then your system can't boot :)
[01:24] <lovedeatm> @daftykins i can boot into windows if i type the exit command
[01:25] <daftykins> lovedeatm: hold up, when do you see grub rescue?
[01:25] <lovedeatm> during the boot process
[01:26] <lovedeatm> i installed a version of ubuntu onto a flash drive but grub installed onto my hdd
[01:26] <lovedeatm> so if i don't have the flash drive in i see the grub rescue
[01:29] <SAND_DUNE_AHMED> hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby 35 male baby whats ur a/s/l baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby
[01:29] <daftykins> lovedeatm: ah-ha, which Windows version?
[01:29] <lovedeatm> 8.1
[01:29] <daftykins> lovedeatm: if you go into your systems BIOS/EFI setup, you might be able to set the boot device to be Windows Boot Manager instead of the hard disk, this will stop it coming up
[01:30] <krainier> threw  efibootmgr output up at pastebin.com/arteKi9a
[01:30] <lovedeatm> cool i'll give it a try
[01:31] <krainier> and when I select shell in Bios, it says no filesystem found
[01:31] <lovedeatm> any other ideas
[01:31] <krainier> files in path exist
[01:31] <dingus1> plop, is a boot able cd. it will list all devices and let you pick one.
[01:32] <daftykins> lovedeatm: not until you try that
[01:32] <lovedeatm> brb
[01:32] <explodingmango> Regarding the SysRq commands, does SysRq-O shut down immediately like B reboots, or does it do a proper/safe shutdown?
[01:32] <dingus1> my old computer does not support usb boot. but plop works just fine
[01:32] <Dlabz> jhutchins: I figured out an easier solution: I did release upgrade :)
[01:34] <EriC^> krainier: you could try one thing, but i still think it's odd you can't get an efi shell, you can try setting the efibootmgr path to EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi and putting shimx64.efi there as that name, some uefi require that file to be there to boot
[01:35] <dingus1> now if I can only figure out this system backup stuff. "systemback" does not work on ubuntu 14.10
[01:35] <krainier> I'll tell you I have tried that and EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgrw(or whatever the default for windows is).efi
[01:35] <dingus1> I need another program to backup a running system.
[01:35] <krainier> just in case...
[01:37] <krainier> would I need to reregister EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi path with efibootmgr?
[01:38] <EriC^> yeah
[01:39] <krainier> let me try
[01:39] <EriC^> EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi ..
[01:40] <EriC^> krainier: did uefi ever work on this laptop?
[01:41] <TJ-> krainier: The downloadable manual doesn't describe UEFI, only a legacy BIOS, so the docs seem out-of-date
[01:43] <TJ-> krainier: correction, it has the AMI BIOS menus but it does show a copyright message that includes "UEFI" - it only shows 2 options being altered, so is confusing. No description of boot options at all
[01:44] <yagi> SAND_DUNE_AHMED: hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby 35 male baby whats ur a/s/l baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby
[01:44] <yagi> SAND_DUNE_AHMED has been spamming me for the last fifteen minutes, anyone care to kb him?
[01:45] <Stanley00> I got spammed from him too
[01:45] <bazhang> he's gone
[01:46] <lovedeatm> daftykins, I tried it worked. Maybe you or someone here can help me with the next issue
[01:46] <yagi> bazhang: thanks
[01:46] <bazhang> np
[01:47] <TJ-> yagi: You can do "/ignore *!*@37.157.244.43 ALL" to have all messages from that user silently dropped
[01:47] <lovedeatm> Thank you btw, daftykins
[01:47] <dingus1> wow the ops are assume. I like it
[01:47] <krainier> so \\EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi and \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgrw.efi both failed as boot options
[01:48] <yagi> TJ-: thanks, I know. it was more a public safety issue really :)
[01:48] <TJ-> krainier: I'm wondering if it is because the EFI System Partition isn't #1, but #2. According to the specification, it shouldn't matter, but who knows what bugs are in the firmware itself
[01:48] <krainier> and bios is UEFI 2.1 compliant, flashed most recent version from zotac
[01:49] <krainier> and no, it has never booted except for USB media
[01:49] <TJ-> krainier: In the same way that EriC^ described a missing bootx64.efi can cause some bugy firmwares to fail any kind of UEFI boot, this is another possible cause
[01:49] <lovedeatm> I need to create a usb drive that will boot up without grub. I have an iso but it's the default install iso (the one that's like hey try this and then install)
[01:49] <EriC^> krainier: did you rename the shimx64.efi file to EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi ?
[01:50] <krainier> yep
[01:50] <dingus1> dumb question: why is sand_dune_ahmed sending me love notes?
[01:51] <krainier> also, I should have EFI partition as sdb1, I don't see it as sdb2?
[01:51] <EriC^> i just got spammed too
[01:51] <bazhang>  /mode yournick +g
[01:51] <krainier> be back in a few
[01:52] <TJ-> krainier: I'd try installing the EDK2 shellx64.efi as /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi from https://svn.code.sf.net/p/edk2/code/trunk/edk2/ShellBinPkg/UefiShell/X64/
[01:52] <bazhang> thats a network issue, he's not in this channel any longer
[01:52] <dingus1> thank you.
[01:53] <dingus1> what does +g do for me?
[01:54] <dingus1> "/mode dingus1 +g" how will that help?
[01:56] <bazhang> blocks all PM dingus1
[01:56] <TJ-> krainier: EriC^ I wonder if the Protective MBR is causing the issue?
[01:57] <daftykins> lovedeatm: yeah so you boot, you run the installer, you select manual partitioning and choose the flash drive... and lets say the flash drive is called "sdb" you select to put GRUB on sdb, instead of sda. then it'll work
[01:59] <lovedeatm> Thanks daftykins I'll give it a try and let you know
[02:01] <EriC^> TJ-: krainier *shrugs*
[02:01] <EriC^> krainier: if you want we can manually reinstall grub, i'm up for it
[02:01] <EriC^> who knows
[02:02] <EriC^> nevermind
[02:03] <EriC^> krainier: you could always use the usb to boot the ubuntu installation i guess, if nothing else works
[02:04] <liamguy165> hey
[02:04] <EriC^> maybe the uefi has a hard time with the ssd
[02:04] <liamguy165> I just installed ubuntu over windows 8
[02:04] <liamguy165> Should i keep it?
[02:04] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: Congrats on coming to the awesome side! :D
[02:04] <liamguy165> yea ikr haha
[02:04] <liamguy165> I love coding and all aspects about this
[02:04] <TJ-> EriC^: The SSD is part of the unit, so I'd doubt that (it's not a 3rd party add-on)
[02:05] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: Just know that this is a support channel ;)
[02:05] <liamguy165> oh yea haha
[02:05] <NegativeFlare> #ubuntu-offtopic is for random discussion :P
[02:05] <liamguy165> i have a question about executing .sh files as a terminal file
[02:05] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: alright, go for it
[02:05] <NegativeFlare> you mean a shell script right?
[02:05] <liamguy165> I want to double click a .sh file extenstion, but it opens in gedit
[02:06] <liamguy165> yea i do mean shell script
[02:06] <liamguy165> I do penentration testing for a small but sucessful business
[02:06] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: normally when running a shell script, if its not +x on its permissions, then its going to open it up
[02:06] <NegativeFlare> not run it
[02:07] <liamguy165> I have chmod +x test.sh in cd Desktop in terminal, but it still opens as gedit
[02:07] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: try removing the .sh?
[02:07] <liamguy165> alright
[02:07] <krainier> ok guys, the shell file as /EFI/Boot/bootx64 did not boot
[02:07] <EriC^> liamguy165: open a terminal, cd to the dir, type ./test.sh
[02:08] <liamguy165> that works fine
[02:08] <liamguy165> I already did that
[02:08] <NegativeFlare> EriC^: I'm pretty sure he wants to run the file without opening the terminal
[02:08] <NegativeFlare> like
[02:08] <NegativeFlare> run it as in
[02:08] <TJ-> liamguy165: Usually, that depends on the default action set in the file manager/desktop environment, for that mime-type
[02:08] <liamguy165> yes i do
[02:08] <liamguy165> thats exactly right negative
[02:08] <EriC^> oh, you have to change the preferences in nautilus for that
[02:08] <EriC^> edit > preferences > behavior
[02:09] <krainier> and the bios recognizes the drive
[02:09] <EriC^> that's not recommended though
[02:09] <krainier> I've tried grub reinstall using the chroot method, btw
[02:09] <liamguy165> i dont see behavior in there
[02:09] <xtpeeps> Why
[02:10] <xtpeeps> What?
[02:10] <TJ-> krainier: How was the drive originally formatted - I'm trying to figure out what/who made the EFI SP as partition #2 - somehow the Protective MBR seems to be being counted first
[02:10] <liamguy165> Theres no vehavir option in there eric
[02:10] <NegativeFlare> heh. I personally don't like nautilus :x
[02:10] <liamguy165> *behavior
[02:10] <NegativeFlare> also
[02:10] <NegativeFlare> !tab | liamguy165
[02:10] <liamguy165> ah
[02:11] <krainier> orginally, I did an ubuntu install in BIOS mode
[02:11] <krainier> I think it may be an MBR issue as well, throwing off the firmware
[02:11] <krainier> is there any way to override that with ubuntu installer?
[02:12] <DF3D2> I have an ubuntu machine on a UEFI mobo, I always booted in what i think was "insecure mode" that's what it said before grub launched, in the bios this showed up as simply "ubuntu" and the actual hdd was a seperate entry, i've since lost the "ubuntu" entry and only have the hdd now... I popped the hdd in to another machine and it showed the "ubuntu" option... I have no idea what bios setting im looking for now... I see an option to disable
[02:12] <DF3D2> everything but UEFI but then the machine gives some error beeps and won't Post. It's an INTEL SB1200BTS server mobo.
[02:12] <liamguy165> EriC^: ?
[02:12] <EriC^> liamguy165: it should be there, second tab
[02:12] <dingus1> I use the plop, bootable cd. to override the bios.
[02:12] <EriC^> Views behavior display ...
[02:12] <krainier> because I've only been doing stock partitions through the ubuntu installer
[02:12] <dingus1> it will let me boot from usb or whatever
[02:12] <EriC^> liamguy165: are you using unity?
[02:13] <liamguy165> no
[02:13]  * NegativeFlare shutters
[02:13] <EriC^> oh ok
[02:13] <EriC^> what are you using?
[02:13] <liamguy165> for?
[02:13] <TJ-> liamguy165: See http://askubuntu.com/questions/168859/how-to-change-default-action-when-running-a-sh-file
[02:13] <EriC^> liamguy165: which de?
[02:13] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: Which desktop environment?
[02:13] <NegativeFlare> That's what he's asking
[02:13] <liamguy165> um
[02:13] <EriC^> lubuntu? xubuntu?
[02:13] <liamguy165> ubuntu
[02:13] <NegativeFlare> Kubuntu?
[02:14] <EriC^> hehe
[02:14] <NegativeFlare> wut
[02:14] <liamguy165> im using ubuntu
[02:14] <NegativeFlare> EriC^: I'm lost then xD
[02:14] <TJ-> krainier: You can simply zero out the first sector (the MBR) to lose all signs of the Legacy boot info.
[02:14] <xtpeeps> Hehe
[02:14] <EriC^> same here :D
[02:14] <liamguy165> why?
[02:14] <liamguy165> whta wrong with ubuntu
[02:14] <EriC^> liamguy165: nothing ubuntu uses unity
[02:15] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: nothing really.
[02:15] <liamguy165> ah thanks
[02:15] <liamguy165> so if im using unity, you dont know?
[02:15] <NegativeFlare> !screenshot | liamguy165
[02:15]  * xtpeeps sleeping
[02:15] <liamguy165> kk
[02:15] <EriC^> you should have nautilus as the file manager
[02:15] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: take a screenshot, and show us what you see ok?
[02:15] <liamguy165> kk
[02:15] <NegativeFlare> in the preferences for Nautilus
[02:15] <EriC^> yeah that'd be best
[02:16] <djbpython> im connected to a vpn (14.04) and id like to make it so that any tcp traffic for a specific ip address/hostname uses the vpn, is that possible?
[02:16] <liamguy165> http://imgur.com/oT3ujE7
[02:16] <NegativeFlare> djbpython: Its possible with iptables, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it
[02:17] <djbpython> NegativeFlare, ok thanks
[02:17] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: silly. Fire up the file manager (Nautilus) and open the preferences windows
[02:17] <NegativeFlare> -s
[02:17] <NegativeFlare> We need a screenshot of that :P
[02:17] <liamguy165> ok
[02:17] <TJ-> djbpython: You can do that with routing table entries
[02:18] <liamguy165> im so clueless rn
[02:18] <djbpython> TJ-, yea it seems like that is my best bet but i havent gotten it to work
[02:18] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: you don't know what the file manager is?
[02:18] <dingus1> sand_dune_ahmed sending me love notes? wtf
[02:19] <NegativeFlare> dingus1: ignore it, its a bot. I got it too.
[02:19] <dingus1> cool
[02:19] <liamguy165> dont worry i got it
[02:19] <liamguy165> just being stupid af
[02:19] <NegativeFlare> haha
[02:20] <neosiu> hello guys, i have a question, is it necessary to upgrade the updates?
[02:20] <NegativeFlare> neosiu: if you want to keep your system secure, then yes.
[02:20] <NegativeFlare> Otherwise, its your choice.
[02:20] <TJ-> djbkd: E.g. "sudo ip route add 10.5.4.0/24 dev tun0"
[02:20] <neosiu> oh thank you!
[02:21] <liamguy165> http://imgur.com/BavSKAH
[02:21] <liamguy165> there ya go
[02:21] <TJ-> djbpython: E.g. "sudo ip route add 10.5.4.0/24 dev tun0"
[02:21] <djbkd> :)
[02:21] <krainier> tj, just want to confirm cmd before running
[02:21] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: Ah, see the option that's already checked (bulleted, w/e)
[02:21] <krainier> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1
[02:22] <NegativeFlare> It says Run Executable commands when they are opened
[02:22] <liamguy165> but it still isnt working
[02:22] <NegativeFlare> if that's already marked, then what you need to do is mark the file you want to run via the file manager as executable
[02:22] <liamguy165> how do ido that
[02:22] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: Have you did this to the file: chmod +x <filename>
[02:23] <TJ-> krainier: Try that, but I don't see any need to keep the Protective MBR partition table either. If killing the boot-strap code doesn't do it, try taking out the partition table too
[02:23] <liamguy165> oh im dumb
[02:23] <DF3D2> I have an ubuntu machine on a UEFI mobo, I always booted in what i think was "insecure mode" that's what it said before grub launched, in the bios this showed up as simply "ubuntu" and the actual hdd was a seperate entry, i've since lost the "ubuntu" entry and only have the hdd now... I popped the hdd in to another machine and it showed the "ubuntu" option... I have no idea what bios setting im looking for now... I see an option to disable
[02:23] <DF3D2> everything but UEFI but then the machine gives some error beeps and won't Post. It's an INTEL SB1200BTS server mobo.
[02:23] <liamguy165> i didnt allow it to have perms to run as executable at all
[02:23] <liamguy165> sorry for wasting your time
[02:23] <liamguy165> but hm, it doesnt even run
[02:24] <EriC^> liamguy165: it runs in the background
[02:24] <liamguy165> o
[02:24] <EriC^> liamguy165: yeah, that's why it's not recommended, you can't see the output of the script
[02:24] <liamguy165> if i open multiple of these, i wont see them
[02:24] <djbpython> TJ-, ah yes i tried that (though my device is vpn0) and when i traceroute i dont see it going through my vpn
[02:24] <liamguy165> ah
[02:24] <liamguy165> i see
[02:24] <djbpython> do i need to restart anything?
[02:24] <liamguy165> so theres no way to run tons of these scripts with one command?
[02:24] <TJ-> DF3D2: Sounds like the mobo's firmware lost the UEFI Boot Menu entry for the Ubuntu install. If you can boot in UEFI mode to a Live ISO environment, you can use "efibootmgr" to reinstall the entry
[02:24] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: nah man
[02:24] <NegativeFlare> don't worry about it, that's why we're here.
[02:25] <liamguy165> oh i thought thered be  a way
[02:25] <NegativeFlare> well
[02:25] <liamguy165> like run ./ping.sh 10
[02:25] <EriC^> liamguy165: if you really want to do it, you can create a runscript.sh , with the command gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/path/to/test.sh; bash'" , it will open a terminal and run it and keep it open after it's done
[02:25] <NegativeFlare> you can run a bunch of commands with bash, you have to learn how to write the script to do so though.
[02:25] <TJ-> djbpython: That would depend on other entries in the routing table that may be more specific, and possibly even how the far end of the VPN is configured
[02:25] <NegativeFlare> liamguy165: Take a look at this: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[02:26] <NegativeFlare> I've read most of that document/article. And I've learned how to write tons of scripts.
[02:26] <DF3D2> TJ-, I tried point it to fs0:\boot\efi
[02:26] <DF3D2> TJ-, which seemed to be what it wanted
[02:26] <NegativeFlare> Heh, that's one of the reasons Google hired me xD
[02:27] <liamguy165> lol
[02:27] <TJ-> DF3D2: The removable media and default boot path is /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi. For non-removable media, the firmware will usually expect a Boot Menu entry to have been saved into tis Non-Volatile memory so it survives power-off
[02:27] <DF3D2> TJ-, it wants me to use \ slashes it says?
[02:28] <DF3D2> so it would be what, fs0:\EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi ?
[02:28] <TJ-> DF3D2: Yes, sorry. You'll need to escape them ("\\") to get a literal "\"
[02:28] <DF3D2> uhm
[02:28] <TJ-> DF3D2: Are you doing this from the UEFI shell?
[02:29] <DF3D2> TJ-, well the bios it's self has a section where I can create a uefi entry
[02:29] <DF3D2> on the hdd
[02:29] <TJ-> DF3D2: In which case I think you can get away without escaping the path separator
[02:29] <DF3D2> TJ-, so what should it look like exactly?
[02:29] <TJ-> DF3D2: Ahhh, OK, that's even better. I like professionally written firmware... so rare!
[02:30] <DF3D2> TJ-, so: fs0:\EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi  ?
[02:31] <TJ-> DF3D2: Assuming the file exists, "\EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi". If you're trying to point to a default Ubuntu install, it'd be "\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi"
[02:32] <krainier> MBR zeroed out to 512bs, still no boot
[02:32] <TJ-> DF3D2: That assumes the signed packages are installed to support Secure Boot. If not, then it'd be "\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi"
[02:32] <TJ-> krainier: You've got some weirdness going on there
[02:32] <krainier> yeah...
[02:32] <krainier> will a signed efi file work if secure boot is off?
[02:32] <EriC^> yeah i think so
[02:32] <TJ-> krainier: At least it seems not to be a legacy issue
[02:33] <TJ-> krainier: Yes
[02:33] <krainier> weird thing is I've read reports of the same pc booting linux just fine, no issues
[02:33] <krainier> more likely a firmware issue or SSD issue?
[02:34] <EriC^> i think firmware
[02:34] <EriC^> maybe ssd i dont know
[02:34] <krainier> should I return the box at this point?
[02:34] <TJ-> krainier: IF it were me, I'd wipe the device, create a single GPT EFI system partition of 256MB FAT32, and install the EDK2 shell.efi to "/EFI/boot/boootx64.efi" and try with that.
[02:34] <EriC^> i think it's odd you cant get an efi shell and it says no filesystem found
[02:34] <krainier> as faulty?
[02:34] <onemoreplease> tt
[02:34] <EriC^> it should give an efi shell even if it can't see the ssd i think
[02:35] <TJ-> krainier: Have you done a couple of complete UEFI reset to factory defaults? To clear weirdness from NVRAM?
[02:35] <EriC^> but it boots the live usb fine, so...
[02:35] <DF3D2> TJ-, well im beyond confused now
[02:35] <krainier> I flashed a bios update
[02:35] <DF3D2> TJ-, assume this is EFI done by an ubuntu install without me having done anything fancy
[02:35] <TJ-> EriC^: Only if the firmware has a shell built-in. I didn't see mention of one in the docs
[02:35] <DF3D2> "\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi"
[02:35] <DF3D2> the bios says nothing about using quotes
[02:36] <DF3D2> it gives this example: fs0:\path\filename.efi
[02:36] <TJ-> DF3D2: If the shim file is in the ESP then use that, else you'll only have grubx64.efi, so use that
[02:36] <TJ-> DF3D2: I use "quotes" to make clear the commands I suggest you type from the surrounding comments
[02:40] <TJ-> krainier: After a firmware update it's always best to reset to defaults and reapply settings, since the internal storage of settings can change. I've seen that affect BIOSes many times, but UEFI variables are supposed to be stored more intelligently
[02:41] <Yukkii> Anyone here?
[02:41] <TJ-> !as
[02:41] <Yukkii> TJ-: Would you be able to help me with this? http://pastebin.com/iZ7MYsjx
[02:43] <mynameisdeleted> so.. 4k, 5k, and 6k resolution wallpapers....
[02:43] <krainier> reset to defaults, still nada
[02:43] <mynameisdeleted> can those be submitted with creative commons attribution required license?
[02:44] <DF3D2> TJ-, well shim didn't work
[02:44] <krainier> any change there is some weird driver, or firmware update, ACHI setting or something that isn't right?
[02:44] <mynameisdeleted> I think it could be a great way for a photographer to spread his name if they look good
[02:44] <DF3D2> TJ-, ill download a live-cd and use the repair tool, what was it called?
[02:44] <TJ-> Yukkii: "sudo apt-get install pkg-config"
[02:44] <TJ-> DF3D2: "boot info" ?
[02:44] <ubuntuuser> Is there a known issue with alt tabbing in fullscreen games on Ubuntu using the AMD Catalyst driver?
[02:45] <ubuntuuser> In my Ubuntu install, it doesn't work and sometimes freezes the game
[02:45] <mynameisdeleted> I'm willing to allow anyone to modify them or redistribute them as long as they keep atribution as I request
[02:45] <DF3D2> TJ-, you said some efi repair tool
[02:45] <DF3D2> im starting to go literally insane here
[02:45] <daftykins> mynameisdeleted: #ubuntu-offtopic would be better for that.
[02:45] <DF3D2> I hate efi so much
[02:46] <TJ-> krainier: Not that I can imagine at this level. I'd try a clean minimal GPT ESP with shell.efi, as I suggested earlier. If that fails then you know you have a firmware issue, rather than a bad install issue
[02:46] <krainier> DF3D2, me too!
[02:46] <TJ-> DF3D2: Oh, you mean "efibootmgr" ?
[02:46] <DF3D2> TJ-, yeah im going insane here
[02:46]  * TJ- loves UEFI ... you get to diagnose it's issues more than was ever possible with BIOS!
[02:46] <DF3D2> ...?
[02:47] <DF3D2> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[02:47] <DF3D2> does that have live functionality ?
[02:47] <TJ-> DF3D2: "desktop" installers all have 'live' environments
[02:47] <DF3D2> k
[02:47] <[[thufir]]> how should I format for dual boot?  i'm running 14.10, but want to dual boot OpenSuSE.  how should fdisk look like?
[02:48] <[[thufir]]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10026470/
[02:48] <krainier> ok, will try in a bit. Thanks for all your time and attention @TJ-, @EriC^
[02:48] <krainier> you guys are awesome
[02:49] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: not much space there.
[02:50] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: huh?  there should be 400GB.  hmm.
[02:50] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: oh my bad, that listing is edited
[02:50] <daftykins> sda1 is not at the beginning of the disk, how very odd
[02:51] <TJ-> krainier: Reference to this page might help you diagnose the issue/ensure you have a totally correct UEFI install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:51] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: yeah, uh, that was me doing things perhaps out of sequence.
[02:51] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: how-so?
[02:52] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: I added the swap in the wrong sequence when installing, which is why sda1 is probably not at the beginning of the disc.  Took me a few tries.
[02:53] <onemoreplease> 1
[02:53] <onemoreplease> 2
[02:53] <onemoreplease> 3
[02:53] <onemoreplease> 4
[02:53] <onemoreplease> 5
[02:53] <onemoreplease> sorry
[02:55] <DF3D2> TJ-, so do I just do "efibootmgr -c"
[02:55] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: is another OS on that disk though? nothing starts at 0
[02:56] <Finetundra> Another day, another problem. I seem to have lost the ability to control audio weather by keyboard control or by clicking the buttons. can anyone give me a hand?
[02:56] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: no, right now it's just Ubuntu.  I want to add OpenSuSE, make /dev/sda3 and put OpenSuSE on there.  what should the fdisk report look like for that?
[02:57] <TJ-> DF3D2: More like "sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\boot\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p X -d /dev/sdY" where X is the partition number of the EFI system partition, and Y is the device letter
[02:57] <Yukkii> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/1DZrb8xR
[02:57] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: first run this "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" - you might need to install pastebinit
[02:57] <Yukkii> After running sudo make install
[02:57] <TJ-> Yukkii: So it worked
[02:58] <Yukkii> TJ-: Do I need to reboot for it to show up now?
[02:58] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10026656/
[02:58] <TJ-> Yukkii: What do you mean by "show up" - it's installed and ready
[02:58] <Yukkii> Typing "tmux" does nothing
[02:59] <TJ-> Yukkii: what does "which tmux" report?
[02:59] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: and new fdisk -l  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10026689/       should sda3 have a "*" or not?
[02:59] <DF3D2> TJ-, haha okay let me try that..
[02:59] <Yukkii> minecraft@mc1:~$ which tmux
[02:59] <Yukkii> Er
[02:59] <Yukkii> minecraft@mc1:~$ which tmux
[02:59] <Yukkii> minecraft@mc1:~$
[02:59] <Yukkii> ..
[02:59] <Yukkii> Says /usr/local/bin/tmux
[02:59] <TJ-> Yukkii: So it isn't installed in the current path. what does "echo $PATH" report?
[03:00] <xcyclist> Say, is rbenv now broken on Ubuntu?
[03:00] <TJ-> Yukkii: So it was found! Forget the $PATH request
[03:00] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: no, you're trying to set it up before the OS is there XD
[03:00] <Yukkii> Hm
[03:00] <xcyclist> I tried apt-get installing it, and it won't go.
[03:00] <TJ-> Yukkii: try calling it directly then: "/usr/local/bin/tmux"
[03:00] <Yukkii> That works
[03:00] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: was the ubuntu install recent? that disk is all kinds of messed up
[03:01] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: ok, so OpenSuSE will find (or I'll direct it to) sda3, and then it will make it bootable, and add the "*"?  something like that?
[03:01] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: sda3 is the first on the disk, the other two are right at the end XD
[03:01] <TJ-> Yukkii: Ahhh, it's the shell's has table!
[03:01] <Yukkii> I se
[03:01] <Yukkii> I see*
[03:01] <TJ-> Yukkii: Type "hash -d tmux" then try "tmux"
[03:02] <Yukkii> TJ-: That fixed it, thanks!
[03:02] <TJ-> Yukkii: you're welcome
[03:03] <TJ-> krainier: DF3D2: I have to go (to sleep) now; hope you guys get it sorted. krainier: if you do, please post an update to your forum thread. I'll be watching it.
[03:04] <Finetundra> Another day, another problem. I seem to have lost the ability to control audio weather by keyboard control or by clicking the buttons. can anyone give me a hand?
[03:06] <diego7319> hi guys
[03:07] <diego7319> i had this error when i try to run ubuntu touch emulator
[03:07] <diego7319> ubuntu touch developer tools are not installed
[03:08] <daftykins> !touch | diego7319
[03:08] <diego7319> nobody answer anything in there
[03:08] <diego7319> a lot of people
[03:08] <diego7319> nobody writes anything
[03:09] <sakurakaminari> hello
[03:10] <diego7319> hi
[03:10] <DF3D2> TJ-, well the entry shows up in uefi now but it wont boot
[03:11] <DF3D2> "sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\boot\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda"
[03:11] <sakurakaminari> whoa holy shit
[03:11] <sakurakaminari> thats like
[03:11] <sakurakaminari> pro ubuntu-ing
[03:12] <daftykins> sakurakaminari: don't use that language here please
[03:12] <daftykins> diego7319: yep you're on at the wrong time, doesn't make touch a topic for here though i'm afraid.
[03:12] <sakurakaminari> daftykins: oops sorry. didn't know swears were banned
[03:13] <diego7319> ok
[03:16] <DF3D2> TJ-, sda1 is a 512M partition with the efi stuff in it I believe
[03:16] <krainier> DF3D2, are you in live media?
[03:17] <krainier> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:18] <happyfr0gg> How do I determine what is causing my CPU to hit 100%?
[03:18] <krainier> then browse to /mnt/EFI
[03:18] <xcyclist> Anybody out there if the rbenv you get with apt-get install is serviceable?
[03:18] <DF3D2> krainier, yeah I just figured all that out
[03:18] <DF3D2> was brain dead or id have figured it b4 :-P
[03:19] <krainier> lol, is the path there same as \EFI\\boot\shimx64.efi that you did
[03:19] <krainier> sorry, I missed all the troubleshooting you did
[03:19] <DF3D2> mine is \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64
[03:19] <happyfr0gg> System Monitor does not tell me what is causing my CPU to hit 100%.
[03:20] <happyfr0gg> I want to know what apps are causing my CPU to hit 100%. How do I do this?
[03:20] <toan_> run top
[03:20] <DF3D2> krainier, still doesn't work though!
[03:20] <DF3D2> what the heck
[03:21] <krainier> did you try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[03:21] <RileyGuy1000> Hello, I am having an issue with my passwords, I've heard there is a disk out there that can edit any account type or password whether it be mac, windows, or linux, where could I get that?
[03:21] <DF3D2> krainier, yea
[03:22] <DF3D2> :-\
[03:22] <quantals> hello just installed ubuntu14.04, i installed clementine is there a way to view video podcast in clementine?Is ther ea plugin or something.I know it is not ubuntu related but i was hoping someone could help plz
[03:22] <DF3D2> krainier, option in the uefi still isn't bootable though
[03:22] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: I seem to have discconnected.  sorry, did you reply?
[03:22] <krainier> with the correct path? or did you only try \\EFI\\Boot\\shimx64
[03:22] <krainier> should be \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64
[03:23] <krainier> unless you copied over files to /mnt/EFI/boot folder that I missed
[03:23] <happyfr0gg> Top tells me that 'kworker' is using up 75% of my CPU. What the heck is 'kworker'??
[03:23] <DF3D2> krainier, no I did "sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda"
[03:23] <DF3D2> is that too many \ ?
[03:23] <DF3D2> thats what tj said to do
[03:24] <krainier> ha no, as long as your \\EFI\\..\\file.efi path matches actual folder and file paths
[03:25] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: was the ubuntu install recent?
[03:25] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: yes.
[03:25] <krainier> I'm just saying because TJ put in the wrong path for your previous instruction
[03:26] <krainier> if you were cutting an pasting, it would have been wrong
[03:26] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: if i were you i'd start over, your ubuntu partitions are at the end of the drive and sda3 is at the start, it's all backwards :D
[03:26] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: ok.  if i boot to live DVD, can gparted rename them?  or do I need to re-install???
[03:27] <DF3D2> krainier, yeah I fixed it before
[03:27] <DF3D2> and it still does not work
[03:27] <DF3D2> :-|
[03:29] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: nuke it from orbit and start again, they're not names... they're logical assignments based on the order on disk
[03:30] <ksayapin> hey
[03:30] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: reinstall ubuntu by selecting to partition manually, then ask in here again - that way you can use part of the space for ubuntu and save some for the other OS later
[03:30] <ksayapin> guys
[03:30] <ksayapin> i have a small problem
[03:30] <ksayapin> pls help
[03:30] <krainier> DF3D2, does sudo efibootmgr -v
[03:31] <krainier> show the entry?
[03:31] <DF3D2> krainier, yeah
[03:31] <krainier> and how many entries does it show?
[03:31] <DF3D2> krainier, just doesn't work
[03:31] <DF3D2> im about to just throw this motherboard away
[03:31] <TJ-> DF3D2: Is it set as the default, too?
[03:32] <DF3D2> yeah ive tried booting it directly from uefi
[03:32] <DF3D2> the pathing is correct
[03:32] <DF3D2> as long as \\EFI\\ is correct..
[03:32] <daftykins> ksayapin: first of all you have to actually tell us what's wrong and ask
[03:32] <DF3D2> "sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[03:32] <DF3D2> just doesn't work though
[03:32] <krainier> you are missing a slash in that cmd
[03:33] <krainier> between ubuntu and shimx64.efi
[03:33] <krainier> should be two slashes
[03:33] <krainier> but maybe delete that entry before you recreate it?
[03:33] <krainier> sudo efibootmgr -b 000X -B 000X
[03:34] <krainier> then sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[03:34] <krainier> X = the boot entry labeled as ubuntu
[03:34] <DF3D2> two slahses all the way around? why
[03:34] <DF3D2> this makes no sense
[03:34] <TJ-> The UEFI firmware expects the EFI system partition to have the layout "\EFI\<os-name>\<boot><arch>.efi". For removable media <os-name> is hard-coded as "boot". <arch> is "x64" for 64-bit UEFI which is 99% of UEFI. For non-removable media, the path can be anywhere in the EFI SP and the filename can be anything, but we try to stick with the UEFI conventions as much as possible whilst still being descriptive
[03:35] <allstarsnorks2> Hey there. May I ask if Ubuntu GNOME is a supported release of Ubuntu
[03:35] <daftykins> allstarsnorks2: i believe it is
[03:35] <DF3D2> TJ-, so double slashes is wrong ?
[03:35] <allstarsnorks2> Okay
[03:36] <DF3D2> so it should be "sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda" ???
[03:36] <excelsiora> my wife just installed Ubuntu all by herself. Well I was next to her telling her what to do, but otherwise, all by herself!!!
[03:36] <TJ-> DF3D2: In the shell "\" is the escape character/ Linux uses "/" as the path separator. To get a literal "\" you need to use "\\" otherwise "\EFI" would be interpretted as "\E" (a single control code) followed by "FI"
[03:36] <allstarsnorks2> A question. After updating to Gnome 3.14, Gnome's Startup Application was removed. What is up with this?
[03:36] <DF3D2> TJ-, so then I need this?
[03:36] <DF3D2> so it should be "sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda" ???
[03:36] <TJ-> DF3D2: That is why using efibootmgr we have to use "\\" but in the native UEFI tools we don't
[03:37] <daftykins> excelsiora: that's nice. got a support query?
[03:37] <TJ-> DF3D2: That looks correct to me, assuming the path/file exists in partition #1 of sda
[03:37] <DF3D2> TJ-, your first msg to me showed \\EFI\boot\shimx64.efi
[03:37] <DF3D2> so I had been doing that the entire time, with changing "boot" to "ubuntu"
[03:37] <TJ-> DF3D2: I am tired; many typos!
[03:38] <TJ-> DF3D2: 03:38 here... need sleep :)
[03:38] <excelsiora> daftykins: no, just wanted to celebrate with you! :)
[03:40] <DF3D2> TJ-, well it finally works
[03:40] <krainier> congrats man
[03:40] <happyfr0gg> Could somebody help me? My question is at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/248598 number 20.
[03:40] <DF3D2> thats why I kept asking if \\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi was right
[03:41] <DF3D2> shoulda just tried \\ everywhere I guess
[03:41] <krainier> you got it now, maybe thank the guy for his work
[03:42] <happyfr0gg> How do I send an error report to the Ubuntu developers? My Ubuntu install fails to send the error crash reports.
[03:48] <DF3D2> TJ-, thanks
[03:49] <DF3D2> so my next problem is my intel gigabit nic (e1000e driver) doesn't load on startup
[03:49] <DF3D2> I have to remove the e1000e module and probe it again
[03:50] <daftykins> try adding it to /etc/modules
[03:51] <ady> hi all, i got problem with facebook call .. don`t detect my webcam .... can someone help ?
[03:51] <DF3D2> daftykins, yeah oddly it wasn't in there, it should be right ?
[03:51] <daftykins> no
[03:52] <arooni-mobile> hey folks.  when i plug in headphones i still hear audio coming through my laptop speakers.  t420 laptop; running urubntu 14.04;  what can i do?
[03:54] <DF3D2> daftykins, that didnt seem to help
[03:54] <daftykins> DF3D2: so when you boot up the first time, what state is the interface in? does it even appear?
[03:55] <DF3D2> daftykins, no it does the waiting 60 more secs stuff
[03:55] <DF3D2> this machine has dual gigabit intel nics but one is disabled in bios
[03:56] <daftykins> why?
[03:56] <daftykins> as in, it delays boot?
[03:56] <DF3D2> just not using it
[03:57] <daftykins> and your doing that didn't create this problem?
[03:57] <DF3D2> no
[03:57] <daftykins> quite honestly, disabling it is a pointless action
[03:57] <DF3D2> had it before
[03:57] <DF3D2> okay point taken
[03:57] <DF3D2> my persistent rules look like this: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1e:67:8b:77:bc", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"
[03:58] <kyle__> any udev masters in here?  I'm trying to make a device specific keyboardmapping, but nothing seems to match it.  I can get anormal usb keyboard to match the hwdb entry, and the laptop's keyboard, but not the device I need (usb footswitch).
[04:01] <DF3D2> daftykins, what else can I do so it works properly at boot?
[04:01] <DF3D2> the long boot times and manual intervention needed is quite annoying
[04:02] <daftykins> DF3D2: i genuinely don't know, i've not come up against the right driver not loading before. is this trusty or utopic?
[04:02] <DF3D2> utopic
[04:03] <DF3D2> daftykins, I noticed some behavior where it would load some times, but the 2 ports would be "em1" and "p5p1" instead of eth1 and eth2
[04:03] <DF3D2> contrary to my persistent rules
[04:03] <daftykins> yeah, a lot of devices are coming up with different labels these days
[04:03] <daftykins> perhaps your modifications are fighting it
[04:04] <daftykins> DF3D2: you on your boards latest BIOS? i've also read of compiling newer e1000e modules before, not sure if that's relevant
[04:05] <DF3D2> daftykins, yep newest bios for it
[04:05] <ame> Anybody have idea on how to synchronize my files to google drive??
[04:05] <daftykins> rsync to a Windows share? :D
[04:06] <daftykins> i'm assuming you are saying there's no G Drive client for Linux
[04:07] <DF3D2> daftykins, http://dpaste.com/2PCH2E7
[04:07] <DF3D2> this show that behavior of the "em1" and "p5p1" i was telling you about
[04:11] <ame> daftkins:For eg:I do have reports filling on my google drive...I want that to fill it in local drive and want to synchronize daily basis
[04:13] <Evil_Eric> is rsyslogd supose to be constanly running my cpu at or abouve 3.? % of my CPU?
[04:17] <daftykins> ame: sorry like i say, no idea of a client even exists. if it doesn't, no idea.
[04:27] <jak2000> in mysql when i try see the ddl of a table: mysql> describe tmtarimas;  get this error: ERROR 1 (HY000): Can't create/write to file '/tmp/#sql_3cb_0.MYI' (Errcode: 30)  why how to fix?
[04:33] <bmelcher84> hey everyone
[04:35] <Maser> Air il'e yoshmotak
[04:35] <bmelcher84> not sure how to respond to that...
[04:40] <agent_white> Evenin folks
[04:43] <kyle__> Quite possibly agent_white
[04:44] <buddd> how do i change my terminal's default text editor from gedit to sublime?
[04:44] <buddd> (assuming I have sublime installed)
[04:45] <daftykins> isn't sublime a GUI editor 0o
[04:46] <agent_white> buddd: In your .bashrc, add "export EDITOR=sublime"
[04:46] <buddd> i dunno some google people told me its what they use
[04:46] <agent_white> Then either close all current term windows open, and open a new one, or paste "source ~/.bashrc" in each one of them.
[04:47] <daftykins> buddd: heh, i prefer to think for myself on software choices ;)
[04:48] <buddd> i just installed ubuntu so I have no personal opinions
[04:48] <agent_white> buddd: Then, try all of them!!!
[04:48] <buddd> what do most people use?
[04:48] <agent_white> buddd: Most people use VARIOUS ones.
[04:48] <daftykins> well you need to try things first
[04:48] <agent_white> ^ Don
[04:48] <agent_white> Don'
[04:48] <agent_white> eep
[04:48] <buddd> that sounds like a lot of work while there's more interesting things to do right now =]
[04:48] <agent_white> Don't go the "most people" route, go the "what options are there?" and try them all.
[04:49] <buddd> vim it is
[04:49] <agent_white> True. But finding a text editor is like finding a religion, you'll find... kinda like Sword in the Stone.
[04:49] <buddd> i'll eventually find one I like
[04:49] <daftykins> lol vim
[04:50] <buddd> what do you guys use
[04:50] <agent_white> buddd: vim enthusiast here ;)  -- vimadventures.com to get the basics down.
[04:50] <cjenkin1> agent_white, Emacs FTW
[04:50] <agent_white> buddd: I don't use gvim (gui version), but you may want to look into it until you're comfortable with vim bindings and whatnot.
[04:50] <cjenkin1> Sublime is also pretty good - it's a GUI Emacs in Python
[04:50] <daftykins> i shout at a series of underpaid slaves in my basement, tell them to remember characters
[04:50] <agent_white> cjenkin1: I think every linux user should be comfortable in vim and/or emacs. Period. :D
[04:51] <AkivaAvraham> whats a good program that can interpret pdf as text?
[04:51] <buddd> yeah i mostly do python, i guess thats why they suggest sublime
[04:51] <cjenkin1> agent_white, Agreed.
[04:51] <cjenkin1> buddd, Sublime is good for Python and also for all kinds of web stuff
[04:51] <agent_white> AkivaAvraham: `pdftotext`
[04:51] <AkivaAvraham> agent_white, will try
[04:51] <agent_white> Just... don't go the IDE route.
[04:52] <agent_white> Learn to use a text editor first.
[04:52] <buddd> is there a way to open a file from the terminal so it opens in default text editor? When id o xdg-open it opens in gedit
[04:52] <buddd> even after I chose vim
[04:52] <cjenkin1> agent_white, Dunno, on the fly type checking is nice. Doesn't matter if it's Python I guess
[04:52] <agent_white> I still say, vim, or like cjenkin1 said, emacs.  Both have a long standing (I'm talking decades) reputation for a reason.
[04:52] <agent_white> cjenkin1: "There's a plugin for that..." ;)
[04:53] <cjenkin1> buddd, Make an alias?
[04:53] <buddd> sublime sounds cooler
[04:53] <agent_white> buddd: Did you read what I said above about exporting your editor in bashrc ?
[04:53] <cjenkin1> agent_white, But we're talking about a beginner right? No need to have them configure plugins when an IDE will work out of the box
[04:53] <agent_white> add `export EDITOR="vim"` at the top of your ~/.bashrc
[04:53] <buddd> oh
[04:54] <buddd> i just typed it in my bash haha
[04:54] <agent_white> cjenkin1: True. For a beginner, they won't be worried about type-checking on the fly ;)
[04:54] <agent_white> buddd: Re-read what I said above!
[04:54] <cjenkin1> agent_white, I think he figured it out.
[04:54] <AkivaAvraham> agent_white, didn't work for this pdf document. I think its a scanned pdf, so its not reading
[04:54] <agent_white> What you did is apply it to _only_ that erm session.
[04:54]  * AkivaAvraham hates pdfs
[04:54] <cjenkin1> But what if they're learning Haskell? :D
[04:54] <agent_white> cjenkin1: Then I'd give them a bottle of whiskey.
[04:54] <agent_white> ;P
[04:55] <cjenkin1> lol
[04:55] <cjenkin1> buddd, How comfortable are you with the Bash shell?
[04:55] <daftykins> would probably be nicer to stay more strictly on topic for support, peeps - given #ubuntu-offtopic is the chat channel :)
[04:55] <cjenkin1> daftykins, Aw, sorry
[04:55] <buddd> cjenkin, i can do cd and ls and pwd and thats pretty much it
[04:55] <buddd> i can run python stuff too
[04:55] <agent_white> buddd: I do recommand that you take the time to really invest in learning your editor. It becomes second nature once you do... like breathing. And it is invaluable to learn it inside and out.
[04:56] <buddd> where is bashrc
[04:56] <agent_white> buddd: In your home directory... ~/
[04:56] <cjenkin1> buddd, usually $HOME/.bashrc
[04:56] <buddd> yeah i'm there
[04:56] <cjenkin1> Hidden file
[04:56] <buddd> i can see bashrc in the terminal
[04:56] <buddd> but not in the window
[04:56] <agent_white> buddd: Say you "cd"'d into /etc/asdfads/asdfasdf/asdfasdf ... even there, if you type "~/" it refers to your home directory.
[04:56] <cjenkin1> buddd, Ctrl+H to show hidden files
[04:57] <agent_white> buddd: `ls -a` to show hidden files ;)
[04:57] <agent_white> Can't give him shortcuts!
[04:57] <buddd> ctl h is the way to go
[04:57] <buddd> i couldn't xdg-open .bashrc
[04:57] <buddd> =[
[04:58] <agent_white> True, but `ls -a` is global -- doesn't depend on your terminal having ctrl-h
[04:58] <agent_white> buddd: `vim ~/.bashrc`
[04:58] <cjenkin1> agent_white, That was a file browser shortcut. Should have clarified
[04:58] <buddd> "could not display bashrc~. there is no application installed for "backup file" files. do you want to search for an application
[04:58] <agent_white> cjenkin1: Ahhhh!
[04:58] <agent_white> buddd: heh.... use my command boave.
[04:58] <agent_white> above*
[04:59] <agent_white> Minus the ` tick marks
[05:00] <glogic> what is budd trying to do?
[05:00] <buddd> mtherfker
[05:00] <buddd> not suck at computers
[05:00] <agent_white> glogic: He is on his spiritual-journey of finding his text editor of choice.
[05:00] <cjenkin1> glogic, I believe set a default editor to open files from the command line
[05:00] <cjenkin1> also that
[05:01] <agent_white> buddd: Maybe before you choose your default editor, you instead find the editor you want to be default?
[05:01] <buddd> the program 'vim' can be found in the following packages
[05:01] <glogic> agent_white: Heh. We've all been down that road.
[05:01] <agent_white> buddd: `sudo apt-get install vim`
[05:01] <buddd> pushing ur dugs on me
[05:01] <agent_white> glogic: Haha indeed. It's fun to see it beginning!
[05:01] <[[thufir]]> is there a log of this channnel?
[05:02] <agent_white> buddd: As I said... ask a programmer what text editor he uses, and you'll know his religion.
[05:02] <glogic> I'm a vim user myself, warning: many keyboard (non-intuitive) commands will need to be learned--and practiced.
[05:02] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: what was that command to see partition?  "partition -l"?
[05:02] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[05:03] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: where have you been :P that was like forever ago!
[05:03] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: I had to reinstall!
[05:03] <buddd> i installe dvim but its no where to be seen, doesn't have it owns folder in home
[05:03] <agent_white> buddd: Before you do all this, I recommend trying out vimadventures.com first -- no need to go further after getting to the paid portion, the prior stuff is enough to get the gist of everything.
[05:03] <agent_white> buddd: Just  type "vim" in your terminal.
[05:04] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: but that's a 5 min job! :D
[05:04] <glogic> quick tip... :q exits vim.
[05:04] <Maser> ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ　
[05:04] <buddd> i have to use vim in the terminal?
[05:04] <glogic> Yes, it's a CLI application.
[05:04] <agent_white> buddd: Yes... unless you install and use `gvim`
[05:04] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: err, guess I'm slow...dunno.
[05:04] <agent_white> buddd: Which is why I said that WAY above...
[05:04] <agent_white> ;P
[05:05] <glogic> That should be exiting you: I GET to use this in the terminal?
[05:05] <buddd> just cause you say something, doesn't mean i'll understand it, right now
[05:05] <glogic> exciting
[05:05] <cjenkin1> glogic, :)
[05:05] <agent_white> buddd: `sudo apt-get install gvim` ... then `gvim` in terminal... but really you should go to vim-adventures.com before opening either (or whilst having either open)
[05:05] <agent_white> buddd: Understood, but ask if you don't understand!
[05:06] <buddd> that would be a lot of questions
[05:06] <agent_white> glogic/cjenkin1: Amen!
[05:06] <buddd> playing vim adventures
[05:06] <rww> !1984 | [[thufir]]
[05:07] <agent_white> buddd: You say that like it's a bad thing :P  And good!  It actually moved me to hjkl from my arrow keys.
[05:07] <glogic> agent_white: Hahaha.
[05:07] <[[thufir]]> how do I go about installing an OS using virtualization within ubuntu?  OpenSuSE
[05:07] <[[thufir]]> rww: thx
[05:07] <glogic> I find myself wishing for vim keyboard shortcuts when using firefox...
[05:07] <bmelcher84> hey everyone!
[05:07] <agent_white> glogic: There's a plugin I believe (or a few). I just switched from vimium to cvim in chromium.
[05:08] <agent_white> Also use i3... with vim bindings... and a terminal music player with vim bindings.
[05:08] <agent_white> Just waiting for a car to come out that has vim-bindings. ;)
[05:08] <buddd> isn't annoying to have to use the h, cause its not a home key
[05:08] <glogic> I didn't know i3 had vim binding support. Oh my.
[05:08] <buddd> jkl; would seem to be easier
[05:08] <glogic> It means I'll have to consider giving up icewm.
[05:09] <agent_white> buddd: It seems like it would be... but ";" is actually reserved for various functions, you'll see :)
[05:09] <agent_white> glogic: Never tried it!  I actually switched to i3 from awesome (which has vim binds by default)
[05:10] <glogic> I'd like to recommend a video introduction by a guy who lives and breathes vim.
[05:10] <glogic> http://derekwyatt.org/vim/tutorials/
[05:11] <bmelcher84> is usbmount a good solution to auto mounting a usb drive on boot
[05:11] <bmelcher84> ?
[05:11] <caonicaldroid> How do i optimize my ubuntu to get th?e most out of it that i possibly can
[05:12] <caonicaldroid> Best browser?
[05:12] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: what are you trying to use it for?
[05:12] <cjenkin1> caonicaldroid, Depends on what your goal is?
[05:12] <glogic> caonicaldroid: Optimize for what--speed?
[05:12] <caonicaldroid> How to get better online video quality
[05:12] <glogic> Memory overhead?
[05:12] <bmelcher84> haha, that was quick, we all asked the same question lol
[05:12] <glogic> Hahah.
[05:12] <cjenkin1> caonicaldroid, That's a plugin issue, most like
[05:12] <caonicaldroid> Oh ok
[05:12] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: I would use chrome
[05:12] <caonicaldroid> How do i get it faster
[05:13] <cjenkin1> bmelcher84, That would be my guess too
[05:13] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: what are your pc specs?
[05:13] <bmelcher84> cjenkin1: about usbmount?
[05:13] <caonicaldroid> http://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K53U/
[05:13] <cjenkin1> bmelcher84, No, Chrome
[05:14] <bmelcher84> ahh, i see i see
[05:14] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: it should run just fine
[05:14] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: just know its not osx or windows...
[05:14] <onats> are there any single board computers there that have ruggedized cases/ fanless with heatsinks?
[05:15] <bmelcher84> onats: look at pelican cases
[05:15] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: what is your goal with linux? to use it as your main os?
[05:16] <bmelcher84> caonicaldroid: just know you are going to be tweaking all the time... on the keyboard that is
[05:16] <daftykins> onats: 'there' ?
[05:16] <caonicaldroid> to dev
[05:16] <caonicaldroid> and main os
[05:16] <onats> bmelcher84: these are separate cases. im looking for a replacement to desktops, as they will be deployed to harsh environments / dusty
[05:17] <onats> daftykins: is my grammar incorrect? if yes, please do correct
[05:17] <bmelcher84> onats: use toughbooks
[05:17] <bmelcher84> they are pricy though
[05:17] <bmelcher84> but you can throw it off a building ;)
[05:17] <daftykins> onats: well 'there' would suggest #ubuntu was a retail shop of some kind :)
[05:17] <daftykins> onats: single board computers like raspberry pi's etc aren't really on topic for #ubuntu
[05:17] <bmelcher84> daftykins: haha
[05:18] <bmelcher84> onats: if you are running ubuntu on it, I think i can help you, but thats up to daftykins :p
[05:18] <onats> the plan is to put in ubuntu. so i guess hardware questions are going to be out of the topic?
[05:18] <onats> yeah that’s the plan.
[05:18] <bmelcher84> good save lol
[05:18] <glogic> caonicaldroid: You can code on any flavor of linux, in any language.
[05:19] <buddd> when you use the numbers on vim, do you keep your fingers on hjkl or do you have to reach for the h
[05:19] <daftykins> onats: #ubuntu-arm
[05:19] <bmelcher84> I have the pefect plan for you
[05:19] <onats> you guys should relax
[05:19] <bmelcher84> get a old tough book and install ubuntu on it
[05:19] <agent_white> buddd: What do you mean exactly?
[05:19] <daftykins> onats: i'm perfectly relaxed laid out on my sofa, what suggests otherwise? :)
[05:19] <glogic> buddd: Your fingers will go through a muscle-learning as you use vim.
[05:19] <buddd> i'm playing vim adventures
[05:19] <agent_white> ^^ what glogic said. And what level vim-adventures are you on?
[05:20] <buddd> so keep ur fingers on the homekeys
[05:20] <buddd> and reach for the h
[05:20] <CarlFK> what is the apt-get that removes config files too?
[05:20] <onats> too strict = anal
[05:20] <glogic> Yes, keep them in place on your HOME ROW.
[05:20] <cjenkin1> CarlFK, --purge
[05:20] <agent_white> buddd: Keep your fingers on asdf/jkl;  as usual (home row) and move from there.
[05:20] <CarlFK> cjenkin1: thanks
[05:20] <cjenkin1> apt-get remove --purge, to be precise
[05:20] <bmelcher84> onats: as long as you stay in line, everyone is here to help you. Its just one of thoes rules of life
[05:21] <bmelcher84> cjenkin1: I will note that ;)
[05:21] <daftykins> onats: the ubuntu channels on freenode have rules in order to direct people to places that can help them best, if you like, i could ignore you entirely?
[05:21] <onats> sure
[05:21] <bmelcher84> daftykins: you make me laugh
[05:22] <onats> life goes on if you do.
[05:22] <daftykins> anyway bed for me :) nn o/
[05:22] <bmelcher84> seeya
[05:22] <bmelcher84> onats, just get a old toughbook and install ubuntu on it
[05:22] <sennn> hi
[05:22] <bmelcher84> they will lst
[05:22] <bmelcher84> last
[05:23] <buddd> this is annoying as shit
[05:23] <bmelcher84> buddd: tell me about it
[05:23] <onats> bmelcher84: i was imagining something like a separate CPU which has no fans, and is encased in a heatsink
[05:23] <bmelcher84> sennn: yo
[05:23] <glogic> onats: Hehe.
[05:23] <agent_white> buddd: Which part? :)
[05:23] <buddd> reaching for the h
[05:23] <agent_white> buddd: From j? -- o_0
[05:23] <buddd> yeah
[05:24] <buddd> cause you forget where the rest of ur fingers are
[05:24] <bmelcher84> onats: use the new raspberry pi, its can run windows 10 ooo000ooo :p but to be honest, this is not really on topic
[05:24] <cjenkin1> buddd, Muscle memory. You'll get it in tim
[05:24] <buddd> might be a deal breaker long term
[05:24] <cjenkin1> *time
[05:24] <agent_white> buddd: You don't just move your pointer finger left once?
[05:24] <agent_white> If you shift all 4 fingers, you're doing typing oddly.
[05:24] <buddd> but i can't quickly transition to the j
[05:24] <buddd> i need to lift and move
[05:24] <onats> thanks. just looking for compatible/good combination hardware.
[05:24] <bmelcher84> onats: you can pm me if you like
[05:25] <agent_white> buddd: To do that move, ALL your fingers should stay on home row except your right hand's pointer finger.
[05:25] <agent_white> It's like moving from f to g
[05:25] <buddd> yeah its not uniform
[05:25]  * agent_white shrugs
[05:25] <buddd> haha ;)
[05:25] <bmelcher84> what are you guys playing
[05:25] <cjenkin1> buddd, You're keyboard is not uniform?
[05:25] <buddd> vim-annoyingventures
[05:25] <agent_white> ^^
[05:26] <bmelcher84> hmm
[05:26] <glogic> buddd: How are your hands positioned? Your hands should be held above the keyboard, not slouched with the palms resting on the bottom lip.
[05:26] <bmelcher84> p0wn3d: what a 1337 name!
[05:26] <agent_white> Keep with it and you'll get used to it :)  More importantly, _my_ annoyance came to having to do "all fingers/hand" off to hit ESC in vim. But then I found a binding to smash jk or kj at once instead :)
[05:26] <buddd> what would one say is the advantage of emacs over vim?
[05:27] <agent_white> http://www.tranexp.com/win/05_Finger-placement.jpg
[05:27] <agent_white> buddd: You're asking a about a religious war now ;))
[05:27] <cjenkin1> buddd, Advantage? Modal editing is kind of confusing, and Emacs doesn't use it
[05:27] <cjenkin1> Disadvantage?
[05:27] <buddd> proseletize me !
[05:27] <cjenkin1> One sec, let me get the XKCD graphic
[05:28] <cjenkin1> http://mrozekma.com/editor-learning-curve.png
[05:28] <cjenkin1> Not XKCD, nvm
[05:28] <cjenkin1> buddd, See the link :)
[05:28] <agent_white> buddd: The whole "vim vs. emacs" debate is pretty much a "100 long year war"  -- kinda a joke among programmers as to which is the ultimate editor.
[05:28] <agent_white> cjenkin1: OR
[05:28] <agent_white> http://xkcd.com/378/
[05:28] <agent_white> ;)
[05:28] <bmelcher84> why not just use nano?
[05:28] <cjenkin1> Yes, that too.
[05:29] <cjenkin1> bmelcher84, Not if I want to edit code, I won't
[05:29] <agent_white> bmelcher84: Why not swim across the ocean to visit eu->us or vice versa?
[05:29] <bmelcher84> ah
[05:29] <bmelcher84> agent_white: well google maps tells me to jet ski to shina
[05:29] <bmelcher84> china*
[05:29] <agent_white> If someone uses nano and are not knew to linux/terminal editors, I question if they are being held captive and only allowed to use it.
[05:30] <bmelcher84> i use to use vi, but not much vim
[05:30] <bmelcher84> never got too much into the code
[05:30] <agent_white> bmelcher84: The guy who made that route probably wrote nano... when it said "swim", that guy `cat`ed single characters into text files.
[05:30] <bmelcher84> agent_white: hahahhaha
[05:31] <agent_white> ;)
[05:31] <cjenkin1> buddd, If you're having problems reaching j from h I do *not* recommend Emacs
[05:31] <agent_white> ^^ I was just about to say.
[05:31] <cjenkin1> The joke is that "Emacs" stands for "Escape Meta Alt Control Shift"
[05:31] <agent_white> These two editors are about keybindings... NOT mouse friendly.
[05:32] <glogic> The other joke is that EMACS is a great operating system.
[05:32] <cjenkin1> pffft
[05:33] <agent_white> But either are entirely worth knowing.  Your future-self will thank you for learning either.
[05:33] <agent_white> That's not a joke, EMACS is an OS that lacks a decent text editor
[05:33] <agent_white> ;))
[05:33] <glogic> agent_white: :)
[05:33] <agent_white> If you refuse to learn either, and get comfortable in either... you're just hurting yourself.
[05:33] <cjenkin1> buddd, The joke is that you can live within emacs, doing everything you'd normally do in an O/S.
[05:34] <cjenkin1> You can browse directories, browse the internet, run a shell, and even play music in Emacs
[05:34] <buddd> that sounds awesome to me
[05:34] <cjenkin1> buddd, It does until you realize how much configuring *you* have to do sometimes
[05:34] <agent_white> buddd: Then try it out :) Let me know how it goes... I actually have never dipped-a-toe into the emacs waters before.
[05:34] <cjenkin1> I refuse to learn Elisp
[05:34] <ungov> Hello, I installed KX studio on my system, and after I rebooted, i no longer have sound.
[05:34] <ungov> On Cadence, I see that the Jack server is started, and PulseAudio is started ad bridged to JACK. Any ideas?
[05:34] <buddd> anyone familar with sublime? how different is it than emacs?
[05:35] <agent_white> buddd: Worlds apart.
[05:35] <cjenkin1> buddd, Same idea, different key bindings, a GUI, in Python
[05:35] <agent_white> Same as asking if vim is similar
[05:35] <cjenkin1> agent_white, not really. Sublime is the spiritual successor to Emacs
[05:35] <agent_white> cjenkin1: No shit? -- I was about to ask if there was a GUI out there for emacs, like gvim to vim.
[05:36] <bmelcher84> ungov: sounds like you have to set it up
[05:36] <cjenkin1> agent_white, I always run Emacs in the GUI
[05:36] <buddd> what is the advantage of having a gui editor?
[05:36] <cjenkin1> Alt key bindings get caught by the terminal emulator
[05:36] <cjenkin1> buddd, Crutch
[05:36] <buddd> that means nothing to me
[05:36] <agent_white> cjenkin1: Oh wow... maybe, one day, I'll try emacs to test out the dark side of things ;)
[05:36] <agent_white> buddd: That's a question that's VERY subjective.
[05:37] <cjenkin1> agent_white, I got converted because the languages I wanted to write in all were best supported in Emacs modes
[05:37] <ungov> I'm on Emacs right now. It has a cool mode for irc, called Circe
[05:37] <buddd> i only use python
[05:37] <cjenkin1> buddd, Sublime is decent then
[05:37] <agent_white> buddd: As in, I'd personally say, that its not an advantage but a crutch in that you rely on a mouse, therefore are not as familiar when remoteing into a system (via terminal), and is also slower as you need to move your hands from the keyboard
[05:38] <bmelcher84> http://goo.gl/TtmmnG
[05:38] <suphi> hello, i am remotely connecting my server (ubuntu 14.04.1 desktop installed) with rdp,if i disconnect from rdp will the scripts i had started within console stop?
[05:38] <buddd> i don't like moving my hands from the keyboard
[05:38] <agent_white> cjenkin1: I'm surprised I'm not, as Matz (ruby creator) is a HUGE emacs fan :)
[05:38] <bmelcher84> ungov: http://goo.gl/TtmmnG
[05:38] <glogic> buddd: Then learn Vim.
[05:38] <agent_white> buddd: Then emacs/vim :)
[05:39] <agent_white> I started on vim, tried out sublime for a little bit... but moved back for good.
[05:39] <cjenkin1> suphi, I'm not familiar with rdp, but any commands started within a login terminal will be killed when you close the terminal
[05:39] <glogic> But here's the best advice--pick an editor, and learn it. Completely.
[05:39] <cjenkin1> suphi, That's what screen is for
[05:39] <agent_white> I don't like the eye-pollution of IDE's and/or GUI editors over terminal editors.
[05:39] <agent_white> "How many buttons are here, and how many do I actually use?"
[05:39] <bmelcher84> agent_white: true
[05:39] <suphi> cjenkin1 but i start terminal in remote desktop
[05:40] <bmelcher84> suphi: thats fine
[05:40] <glogic> I like vim for pure speed and efficieny. I can get to what lines I need to edit, in a few keystrokes.
[05:40] <cjenkin1> suphi, Right, but if it's a login terminal on the *server* is what matters
[05:40] <bmelcher84> suphi: no they wony
[05:40] <bmelcher84> wony
[05:40] <bmelcher84> ahhh
[05:40] <suphi> :)
[05:40] <bmelcher84> won't
[05:41] <agent_white> glogic: Me too :) And the vim-language in itself... verbs/adjectives/nouns; "I want to delete the word under my cursor? -- `diw` or 'delete inside word'"
[05:41] <agent_white> etc. :)
[05:41] <suphi> bmelcher84 >> the script i run will take time to finish so i dont wanna keep remotely connected,that was why i am asking
[05:41] <cjenkin1> agent_white, I do envy that over using Emacs's C-u modifier
[05:42] <suphi> thanks for your answers everybody
[05:42] <bmelcher84> suphi: you can check with viewing the process
[05:42] <bmelcher84> will the kill command
[05:42] <suphi> letme try...
[05:42] <bmelcher84> dont quote me, but i think you can
[05:42] <bmelcher84> someone else might be able to touch on this a little more
[05:42] <suphi> okay
[05:43] <agent_white> cjenkin1: :) It took me until just a bit ago to really 'understand' the vim language... and it's still an ongoing process. Kinda like the first BIG hurdle after understanding bindings.
[05:43] <agent_white> But when you do, it really clicks and makes sense.
[05:44] <buddd> i need to reinstall sublime to try it out
[05:44] <buddd> i messed up my current version
[05:44] <cjenkin1> agent_white, The graph should have another tick for the grammar. The first one is obviously getting used to modal edditing
[05:44] <buddd> i don't see it on the software center under installed tho
[05:44] <agent_white> cjenkin1: Ohlawd I forgot hahaha
[05:44] <cjenkin1> buddd, You'll have to download it from the website
[05:44] <buddd> how do i uninstall it
[05:44] <agent_white> The modal editing becomes a bit too natural ;P
[05:44] <bmelcher84> suphi: or something like ps aux | grep
[05:44] <bmelcher84> then the process
[05:45] <bmelcher84> havent done it in awhile
[05:45] <cjenkin1> buddd, Did you install it from a .dpkg?
[05:45] <buddd> maybe?
[05:45] <agent_white> suphi: What you want to do, is "start a script in background"
[05:45] <agent_white> suphi: To do that, append "&" to the script name
[05:45] <agent_white> ie -- "./script&"
[05:46] <agent_white> vs in the forground -- "./script"
[05:46] <cjenkin1> buddd, type: dpky -s "Sublilme"
[05:46] <cjenkin1> whoops
[05:46] <cjenkin1> dpkg -s "Sublime"
[05:46] <cjenkin1> Argh, one more time
[05:46] <cjenkin1> dpkg -S "Sublime"
[05:46] <glogic> buddd: try this first ok? #aptitude -f install
[05:46] <buddd> how do you exit vim again
[05:46] <bmelcher84> agent_white: neat trick, so just add & at the end with no space?
[05:46] <cjenkin1> buddd, Escape, then :q
[05:47] <agent_white> bmelcher84: Correct!
[05:47] <bmelcher84> learn things every day!
[05:47] <cjenkin1> bmelcher84, Space is optional
[05:47] <bmelcher84> cjenkin1: what does the space change?
[05:47] <bmelcher84> nothing?
[05:47] <buddd> not path found matching pattern *Sublime*
[05:47] <cjenkin1> bmelcher84, Nothing, just prettier to *my* eyes
[05:47] <agent_white> bmelcher84: Alternative to that is to run the process, and press Ctrl-Z
[05:47] <bmelcher84> ah, make sense
[05:47] <suphi> bmelcher84 ty,agent_white let me try and if it breaks i ll take your recommendations,ty
[05:48] <buddd> theres definitely a Sublime folder
[05:48] <agent_white> Then to bring it to foreground once again, type "fg"
[05:48] <cjenkin1> buddd, Hmm. Then type "which Sublime" or "which sublime"
[05:48] <bmelcher84> suphi: good lucks!
[05:48] <agent_white> or "jobs" to see all the processes that are running in the background
[05:48] <buddd> nothing
[05:49] <cjenkin1> buddd, Have you launched Sublime from the terminal before?
[05:49] <cjenkin1> or is it a double-clicky thing
[05:49] <buddd> dbl clicky
[05:49] <cjenkin1> buddd, Then you're in luck! It's probably not "installed"
[05:49] <buddd> i can open it
[05:49] <buddd> by dbl clicking it
[05:50] <cjenkin1> buddd, Right. It's not "installed" in the system. It's a stand alone program
[05:50] <buddd> oh so i can just drag that folder to the trash
[05:50] <cjenkin1> Sort of like using Windows installer vs having an executable.
[05:50] <cjenkin1> buddd, Should be?
[05:50] <buddd> sweet
[05:51] <agent_white> buddd: How did you install it in the first place?
[05:51] <buddd> i forget
[05:51] <buddd> but i am about to find out
[05:51] <cjenkin1> That's the spirit!
[05:51] <cjenkin1> Seriously though, I suggest a .dpkg
[05:51] <buddd> i am interested in your suggestion
[05:52] <buddd> damn this sublime demonstration on their website looks awesome
[05:52] <ZxoR> My desktop items don't aligned to a good grid.. How can I fix it?
[05:53] <cjenkin1> ZxoR, What's your desktop? Unity?
[05:53] <ZxoR> Yes...
[05:53] <bmelcher84> ZxoR: sounds like you're on a mac lol
[05:53] <ZxoR> bmelcher84, Ubuntu 14.04 :)
[05:53] <buddd> cjenkin: how do I use dpkg to install
[05:54] <cjenkin1> ZxoR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn6T9tNMUFg
[05:54] <cjenkin1> you can actually just right click a .dpkg to install it
[05:54]  * cjenkin1 ducks
[05:54] <bmelcher84> ZxoR: http://bit.ly/1D8bA0i
[05:55] <cjenkin1> And press install from the context menu, iirc
[05:55] <buddd> but then u gotta find one
[05:55] <king> hello
[05:55] <buddd> it downloads as a tar.bz
[05:55] <cjenkin1> buddd, Oh?
[05:55] <king> i am new player
[05:55] <buddd> oh
[05:56] <buddd> =]
[05:56] <king> how to play
[05:56] <buddd> king: chess?
[05:56] <cjenkin1> buddd, http://www.sublimetext.com/3
[05:56] <cjenkin1> Ubuntu 14.04 has a .deb file (I think that's actually the extension name - my mistake)
[05:56] <king> linux 新手
[05:57] <cjenkin1> http://c758482.r82.cf2.rackcdn.com/sublime-text_build-3065_amd64.deb
[05:57] <buddd> i click ubuntu 65 and it downloads a deb
[05:57] <cjenkin1> Yeah, that's good
[05:57] <buddd> i was usibg text 2 before
[05:58] <buddd> deb is installing
[05:59] <cjenkin1> buddd, All apt-get install does is searches a known list of repositories, downloads the deb associated with a program, and uses dpkg to install.
[05:59] <king> is there chinese ？
[06:00] <buddd> food?
[06:00] <[[thufir]]> how do I mount sda3?  http://pastebin.com/JHEBLF97
[06:00] <buddd> no i had raisin bran tonight
[06:00] <king> bye
[06:00] <buddd> bye
[06:01] <king> bye
[06:01] <buddd> bye
[06:01] <ghrs_> hi
[06:01] <jishjish> hi all - is there a version of ubuntu 15 available? And separate question is there a version of ubuntu available without all the preinstalled software? I would like to choose my own software.
[06:02] <buddd> which Sublime doesn't work
[06:02] <cjenkin1> buddd, try tab completing Sublime and sublime
[06:02] <buddd> i tried both which Sublime and which sublime
[06:04] <cjenkin1> pastebin the output of "dpkg -S Sublime" or "sublime", if the former is empty
[06:07] <buddd> http://pastebin.com/YmdRE1Ag
[06:08] <jishjish> anyone know if there is a flavour of ubuntu without all the default apps?
[06:08] <somsip> !minimal | jishjish
[06:08] <cjenkin1> buddd, what about "sublime_text"?
[06:10] <buddd> i don't know if it even matters
[06:10] <jishjish> thanks somsip and ubottu - is there a !minimal for ubuntu 15 available somewhere?
[06:10] <buddd> but none of the which's work for sublime_text
[06:11] <cjenkin1> buddd, Urg, ok. I'm installing it now
[06:11] <buddd> thanks man
[06:12] <buddd> i just wanna figure out how to open it out of my terminal and make it default
[06:12] <cjenkin1> It's in /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[06:12] <cjenkin1> buddd, Try restarting the terminal I guess
[06:12] <agent_white> buddd: `export EDITOR=sublime` at the top of your ~/.bashrc
[06:12] <agent_white> As I said... a few times ;)
[06:13] <agent_white> After doing that, close ALL open terminals.
[06:13] <agent_white> Then open a new one.
[06:13] <cjenkin1> buddd, Oh, pfft
[06:13] <cjenkin1> Apparently "opt" directories are not in the path by default
[06:13] <buddd> i'll note that, whatever it means
[06:14] <agent_white> Don't note until  relevant :D
[06:14] <cjenkin1> Add this at the bottom of your .bashrc: PATH="$PATH":/opt/sublime_text
[06:14] <cjenkin1> Then restart the terminal
[06:15] <buddd> what is up ctrl h, i love u
[06:15] <cjenkin1> buddd, It adds itself to the application launcher, so you can always launch it from the GUI launcher
[06:15] <agent_white> buddd: Adding things to your path, means when you open a fresh terminal, you can type the name of the thing, instead of the full path to it -- "sublime" instead of "/usr/bin/sublime" or  what have you.
[06:15] <agent_white> `echo $PATH` to see what all is currently in your path.
[06:15] <cjenkin1> agent_white, ^ That's what i did
[06:15] <agent_white> For instance, I have a folder of scripts I use all the time. I don't wanna type "/home/agent_white/Scripts/somescript.sh", I want "somescript"
[06:15] <agent_white> cjenkin1: Ahhh good deal :D
[06:16] <cjenkin1> agent_white, I usually put those in ~/bin, symlink if I need it somewhere else
[06:16] <buddd> yeah that is excellent thanks
[06:16] <cjenkin1> buddd, working?
[06:17] <buddd> echo $PATH doesn't do jackibo, but sublime_text opens up the program, thanks
[06:17] <cjenkin1> buddd, Hmm? What do you mean it doesn't do anything?
[06:17] <buddd> it prints an empty line
[06:17] <buddd> thats it
[06:17] <cjenkin1> It should print a bunch of directories separated by :
[06:17] <cjenkin1> Oh dear
[06:18] <ADW> yo
[06:18] <buddd> i just installed ubuntu tho
[06:18] <agent_white> buddd: That means _something_, not nothing. Meaning there's nothing in your PATH, which is odd.
[06:18] <cjenkin1> buddd, You sure you typed that in correctly?
[06:18] <cjenkin1> christopher@archimedes:~$ echo $PATH
[06:18] <cjenkin1> /home/christopher/.cabal/bin:/home/christopher/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/home/christopher/bin/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_8-2014q1/bin
[06:18] <buddd> stillwaters ~ $ echo #PATH
[06:18] <Ben64> # is not $
[06:18] <cjenkin1> ^ dollar sign
[06:18] <buddd> what
[06:19] <Ben64> they are two different characters
[06:19] <buddd> oh
[06:19] <agent_white> :)
[06:19] <cjenkin1> buddd, $ in a shell means "give me the value of this variable"
[06:19] <cjenkin1> It's also used for a prompt, but that's irrelevant for this
[06:19] <buddd> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/opt/sublime_text
[06:19] <cjenkin1> Perfect
[06:19] <agent_white> There ya go!
[06:20] <buddd> sweet
[06:20] <buddd> is there anything else I want to do
[06:20] <Ben64> only you can know that
[06:20] <cjenkin1> buddd, Sublime won't open in a terminal, so you might do "sublime_text &"
[06:20] <agent_white> Any of the executables in those directories, you can type into a terminal and run, without being in the folder that holds them.
[06:20] <cjenkin1> buddd, Yes! Install a python package from sublime! :)
[06:20] <buddd> python is installed
[06:20] <buddd> numpy was not easy
[06:21] <cjenkin1> buddd, No, a Sublime package.
[06:21] <cjenkin1> Sublime has it's own package manager, you see
[06:21] <buddd> oh i thought it was naturally a python oriented editor
[06:21] <buddd> neat
[06:21] <buddd> i will open it from the terminal
[06:22] <cjenkin1> https://packagecontrol.io/installation
[06:22] <cjenkin1> buddd, Probably, but it probably also have cool goodies for Python
[06:22]  * cjenkin1 thinks of package managers as Christmas
[06:23] <buddd> ilike it when ipress a few keys, then you see a bunch of stuff scrolling and you know it's doing a lot of work with minimal effort
[06:24] <cjenkin1> buddd, When you learn more terminal foo, Ctrl+r will be your best friend, then :)
[06:24] <cjenkin1> I impressed my coworkers with it
[06:24] <patrick__> hi
[06:24] <agent_white> "ARE YOU A WIZARD?!"
[06:25] <agent_white> ;D
[06:25] <buddd> they want me to press ctrl + `
[06:25] <buddd> thats like
[06:25] <agent_white> patrick__: \o
[06:25] <cjenkin1> agent_white, Pretty much
[06:25] <buddd> way to many keys at the same time
[06:25] <cjenkin1> buddd, Advanced spells require more mana :P
[06:28] <agent_white> Don't empty your mana pool without knowing your mp5!
[06:28] <buddd> it only works like after 10 times
[06:28] <patrick__> what is this chat room about?
[06:29] <buddd> of randomly pressing the combination
[06:29] <cjenkin1> patrick__, lol. Ostensibly, Ubuntu for newbies
[06:29] <agent_white> patrick__: Ubuntu general, and ubuntu help.
[06:29] <cjenkin1> But also magic, apparently
[06:29] <agent_white> ^^
[06:29] <patrick__> lol, yea
[06:29] <agent_white> magic because it knows no bounds
[06:30] <buddd> only my green red deck knows no bounds
[06:30] <buddd> i have put bounds of plenty of other decks
[06:30] <buddd> thanks for the help
[06:30] <cjenkin1> buddd, It was fun. Best of luck in your learnings!
[06:30] <cjenkin1> oh, too late
[06:31] <patrick__> how do I get the driver for my video card?
[06:31] <cjenkin1> patrick__, What video card?
[06:32] <patrick__> gigabyte video card
[06:32] <patrick__> I need to look up the model
[06:32] <dmarr> how do you see the message shown upon login.. like 42 packages need update etc
[06:32] <dmarr> once you're already logged in
[06:33] <cjenkin1> dmarr, Easy way? Ctrl + Alt + F2 to get to another login terminal, log in there
[06:33] <cjenkin1> I think
[06:34] <cjenkin1> Oh derp, dmarr Shouldn't tell you that without saying F7 is how you get back
[06:34] <cjenkin1> Oh no!
[06:34] <cjenkin1> What have I done
[06:35] <dmarr> haha
[06:35] <dmarr> im still here
[06:35] <dmarr> that doesnt seem to work across ssh session
[06:35] <dmarr> so i just logout and log back in
[06:36] <dmarr> all i should need to do for updating is: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade is that accurate?
[06:36] <cjenkin1> dmarr, Sounds right. You can also do it through the Update Manager
[06:36] <dmarr> im on server
[06:36] <cjenkin1> dmarr, ah
[06:37] <dmarr> but i did do that, and it didnt actually seem to update  anything
[06:37] <dmarr> i still have those package warnings
[06:37] <dmarr> but it does say restart required so i'll try that
[06:45] <al_nz1> heeelp - please. after installing some updates and rebooting I get to login, and get the wallpaper but no desktop icons in unity or launcher
[06:45] <al_nz1> I can CTRL-ALT-F1 to a terminal
[06:45] <al_nz1> sigh...why did I reboot :-(
[06:47] <al_nz1> any ideas
[06:48] <Stanley00> al_nz1: don't know, but maybe you need to reset unity.
[06:48] <al_nz1> hmmm - go on
[06:49] <al_nz1> 14.04
[06:50] <Stanley00> al_nz1: like this, in case you didn't find out, dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[06:51] <al_nz1> Stanley00: yes that generates a error - 1 sec
[06:53] <Stanley00> al_nz1: is there any error message?
[06:53] <Stanley00> *any other*
[06:53] <al_nz1> error: Error spawing command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=21c0c9fb169f9f5b8fccf55600000003 -binary-syntax --close-stderr : child process extited with code 1
[06:55] <Stanley00> al_nz1: can you try login in GUI mode, press Ctrl-Alt-T to start a terminal and then run "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/" again?
[06:56] <al_nz1> I cant get terminal from gui using keyboard shortcuts
[06:57] <al_nz1> weird - 'find / -name compiz' doesnt turn up /org/compiz - shouldnt that be a path on my install somewhere?
[06:58] <Stanley00> al_nz1: /org/compiz is path for dconf, not in real filesystem :3
[06:58] <al_nz1> ok
[07:00] <Stanley00> al_nz1: hmm... let try another one. Can you run "find $HOME -iname '*compiz*'" and pastebin the output?
[07:02] <al_nz1> Stanley00: no output
[07:02] <al_nz1> just a new line
[07:06] <al_nz1> dconf dump /org/compiz/ is also blank
[07:07] <Stanley00> al_nz1: hmm... it's weird...
[07:07] <dagerik> how do I disable apache from startting after boot?
[07:09] <al_nz1> Stanley00: what can I do :-(
[07:10] <Stanley00> al_nz1: try create new account, with new home and test to see if compiz/unity work. I'm almost out of ideas :(
[07:11] <al_nz1> whats the command?
[07:11] <al_nz1> for new user
[07:12] <al_nz1> I am using nvidia drivers
[07:13] <Stanley00> al_nz1: "sudo useradd -m test" , and then "sudo passwd test" to set the password , and then switch to gui login and login as test with previous pass
[07:27] <bubbely> is it possible to install Ubuntu even tho im on windows 8
[07:44] <al_nz1> whats the shortcut for terminal in ubuntu?
[07:45] <al_nz1> ALT-T?
[07:49] <hateball> al_nz1: ctrl+alt+T
[07:49] <al_nz1> ta
[07:50] <al_nz1> this unity error is driving me nuts
[07:52] <eldonkr_> So, I've got a printer question.
[07:55] <eldonkr_> I've got an HP Photosmart C4480, I'm pretty sure I just downloaded the right Windows driver for my wife, now I just need to figure out how to get the thing working for my laptop (Ubuntu 14.04)
[07:55] <dmarr> i have a device appearing in lsusb but not in fdisk -l
[07:55] <dmarr> its an external drive
[07:58] <hateball> eldonkr_: Are you hooking it up over USB or WiFi? Usually HP Printers "just work"
[07:59] <eldonkr_> hateball: Through USB, I plugged it in, and nothing popped up letting me know I had something connected.
[08:00] <hateball> eldonkr_: If you go into the add printer gui manually? According to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_c4400_series.html it should be supported through hplip (which is in 14.04 by default)
[08:01] <eldonkr_> hateball: That's neat. I had system settings up earlier, but I accidentally shut my computer down while cleaning the screen and then forgot about it when I rebooted.
[08:04] <eldonkr_> hateball: I went to System Settings >  Printers > Add Printer, and now under devices it says Enter URI and a drop-down for Network Printer. What do?
[08:04] <azizLIGHT> how do i disable these extra keys on my keyboard or change what they do? i have logitech k270 keyboard and ubuntu 14.04
[08:05] <eldonkr_> azizlight, what do the extra keys do?
[08:06] <azizLIGHT> eldonkr_: they look like pause/play, mute, decrease vol, increase vol, house icon (??), email icon, power icon, calculator icon
[08:06] <al_nz1> Stanley00: how would I purge nvidia?
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> pause/play does nothing, mute works, vol works, house not sure, email not sure, power icon puts my computer into standby and my computer crashes and i cant resume lol (want to disable this one)
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> and calculator works
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> theyre too close to keys like f4 and f5
[08:08] <azizLIGHT> which i actually use
[08:08] <Stanley00> al_nz1: hmm... dpkg --get-selection | grep -i nvidia to check the package name, and then sudo apt-get purge <packages>
[08:09] <eldonkr_> azizLIGHT, I have the same buttons on my f-keys, they work for me. Do they work for you or are you trying to disable/remap then?
[08:10] <al_nz1> Stanley00: ok - I think the problem is to do with Nvidia drivers
[08:10] <al_nz1> I would like to reinstall them
[08:10] <eldonkr_> hateball: I went to System Settings >  Printers > Add Printer, and now under devices it says Enter URI and a drop-down for Network Printer. What do?
[08:11] <hateball> eldonkr_: No option for local/usb printer? Have you tried unplugging/plugging in the printer again, see if it pops up automatically?
[08:12] <Stanley00> al_nz1: yep, I saw many people have problem with graphic driver, I can't tell much, since I just have intel chip and opensouce driver, lucky me :3
[08:13] <eldonkr_> hateball: MFW I had the USB plugged in upside down -_-
[08:14] <arct1ch3art> How does that even happen :p
[08:14] <Ben64> al_nz1: can you explain more about your problem, how it came about and other relevant information
[08:15] <eldonkr_> arct1ch3art, you asking me that?
[08:16] <arct1ch3art> I've never heard of such an issue lol but then again I have done some pretty mindless things regardless of my exp as well
[08:17] <azizLIGHT> how do i disable the keys on the keybgoard
[08:17] <azizLIGHT> exstra keys
[08:17] <eldonkr_> arct1ch3art, if you were asking me how I plugged the USB in upside down, I really don't know. This was a free laptop, client hired me to fix it, and then never paid me so after letting it sit for a year I put a hard drive in it and called dibs.
[08:18] <eldonkr_> hateball: It works, but how do I go about using the scanner? Is there a program built in to 14.04 or do I have to go to the software center?
[08:18] <eldonkr_> I've got hand drawn maps for the D&D game that I run that I'd like to scan to test it out.
[08:19] <rrr> if i add an entry into /etc/crontab, do i have to run some command to make it effective?
[08:19] <al_nz1> how do I install the nvidia drivers from repo from cli?
[08:19] <arct1ch3art> Oh, well that's an odd thing to happen given they are only set up in such a fashion. What kind of laptop have you gotten?
[08:20] <Ben64> al_nz1: can you explain more about your problem, how it came about and other relevant information
[08:20] <Ben64> !scan | eldonkr_
[08:21] <eldonkr_> arc1ch3art, Dell Inspiron Duo. I usually know immediately when I have a plug turned the wrong way, but with this thing it goes in, could only be with one port, not really sure.
[08:21] <idknow> how do i tell apt-get to register and recognise a manwilly installed package?
[08:21] <al_nz1> Ben64: had installed nvidia drivers from nvidia website
[08:21] <al_nz1> been working ok
[08:21] <al_nz1> installed updates
[08:21] <al_nz1> now get wallpaper only after login
[08:21] <al_nz1> no icons etc
[08:22] <Ben64> al_nz1: what video card?
[08:22] <al_nz1> GTX 470
[08:22] <Ben64> ok, then uninstall the drivers you got from the website
[08:24] <al_nz1> ok - what would the command be?
[08:24] <Ben64> al_nz1: who knows, check with the documentation that came from nvidia
[08:26] <idknow> 2d q: what do i tell apt to upgrade from olivia to whatever is next?
[08:26] <Ben64> idknow: what is olivia
[08:26] <idknow> mintr i think
[08:26] <somsip> !mint | idknow
[08:26] <somsip> it was mint 15
[08:27] <idknow> #mint is asleep
[08:27] <somsip>  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[08:27] <Ben64> doesn't make it on topic here
[08:27] <idknow> ask to msg me 1st pls.
[08:28] <idknow> remember, my questions are dist-agnostic
[08:28] <idknow> i didnt ask qabout mint.
[08:28] <somsip> idknow: this channel isnt
[08:28] <idknow> ii asked howto use apt-get
[08:28] <idknow> it/i
[08:28] <Ben64> not on topic if it's not for Ubuntu
[08:28] <idknow> it is ubuntu but tat isnt relevent
[08:28] <Ben64> this really is not a hard concept. Only Ubuntu support goes in #ubuntu
[08:29] <idknow> you're not paying attn.
[08:29] <idknow> i asked about apt-get
[08:29] <Ben64> it's for mint, so head to #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[08:30] <hateball> eldonkr_: I think Xsane is one thing, I don't really use scanners
[08:31] <eldonkr_> hateball, simple scan was already installed, works like a champ. I can finally post my campaign maps to the group page, awwwyeah.jpg
[08:32] <idknow> wow ben you're a damned idiot.
[08:33] <ame_> i want to restrict chromium for all my users??How can i do that??
[08:33] <somsip> ame_: restrict it how?
[08:35] <ame_> somsip:i dont want any of my users should even see that chromium...Even if they see they shouldnot open that...
[08:35] <somsip> ame_: who do you want to be able to access it?
[08:35] <ame_> only mine
[08:36] <ame_> somsip:only me want to access that
[08:36] <Ben64> set the owner to you and make the permissions 700?
[08:36] <somsip> ame_: so change the executable so only you have access to it
[08:37] <Ben64> or maybe, keep the owner as root, change the group to your group, and make it 750
[08:37] <ame_> somsip:how to do that...Can u guide me because am new to ubunut
[08:37] <somsip> ame_: Ben64 is telling you
[08:38] <ame_> Ben64:In the location??
[08:38] <Ben64> i mean, doing that will stop them from running chromium, but they will be able to work around that and run a custom executable or something else to get to the internet, not sure of your actual goal
[08:42] <ame_> ben64:ok
[08:43] <ame_> And i want to know one more thing when i am trying to install an application mplabx in chroot it is saying "bus error"...how to resolve it??
[08:46] <ame_> Ben64:At which location i should change permission for application??
[08:47] <ame_> hi
[08:48] <ame> Ben64:At which location i should change the permission for an application??
[08:51] <Ben64> ame: what do you mean 'which location' and do you realize they will still be able to get on the internet with chromium blocked
[08:52] <ame> Ben64:You said know to change the permission for the application...Am asking on which location i need to change the permission..For eg:/usr/share or /user/bin??
[08:52] <Ben64> ame: wherever the application is...
[08:53] <ame> Ben64:By default where will be the application??
[08:54] <Ben64> ame: I don't have chromium, find out by doing "which chromium" in a terminal. and still .... do you realize they will STILL be able to get online without chromium
[08:54] <ame> Ben64:yes i have mozilla
[08:55] <Ben64> ame: so whats the point in doing this to chromium
[08:55] <azizLIGHT> Ben64: do u know how i can disable extra keys on a keyboard? media keys and some program keys on a logitech k270. one of them suspends my pc and i dont like it when i accidentally press it (the extra media/program keys are almost attached to f-row of keys). i am on ubuntu 14.04
[08:55] <azizLIGHT> can i change them to something else maybe
[08:56] <ame> Ben64:I am using LTSP here..By default i have restricted internet through proxy via mozilla....I want chromium for myself but users also can access it right??So that i want to restrict for users...
[09:01] <anternat> hello, i created an alias for eth0 as sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.169.1.200 up (via 192.168.1.155) but i cant browse the internet when this eth0 is up
[09:01] <anternat> *192.168.1.200
[09:02] <ame> antranet:what is the configuration for eth0??
[09:02] <anternat> ame>> sorry i am noob how will i tell that ?
[09:02] <eldonkr_> Does anyone know of anything that can open .oxps files? I type my character sheet for one of the games I play, save it to my google drive and then print it out at the game store, it opens in Microsoft Word when the guy at the store prints it out, but I can't get it to open in Libre writer or Document Reader on my laptop
[09:03] <somsip> !info pagemark | eldonkr_
[09:03] <ame> antranet:noob??
[09:04] <somsip> eldonkr_: you'll have to find pagemark yourself, but this suggests it opens oxps http://fileinfo.com/extension/oxps
[09:06] <ame> antranet:Look the following link for alias conf which i have in my server "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10031251/"
[09:16] <anetrnat> ame>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10031415
[09:21] <ame> antranet:send me this command output " cat  /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:22] <ame> anetrnat:send me this command output " cat  /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:23] <anetrnat> okay sec plz
[09:26] <anetrnat> ame>>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10031548
[09:27] <basileus> I get an error when I try to download the unity8 lxc
[09:27] <basileus> It's never worked entirely before
[09:28] <basileus> sudo unity8-lxc-setup --rebuild-all --redownload
[09:28] <basileus> that gives "urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found"
[09:28] <basileus> So is the server I'm supposed to download it from down?
[09:30] <basileus> Here's a pastebin of everything I got out: http://pastebin.com/uRwu4d19
[09:33] <jnhghy> I'm trying to install odoo in an virtualenv on ubuntu 14.04 I'm running pip install -r requirements.txt but I get error: fatal error: lber.h: No such file or directory I've tried to fix this installing python-dev and other packages I found on web but nothing helped, how can I debug this step by step?
[09:34] <tomodachi> jnhghy: lber.h seems to be some lib ldap header file
[09:35] <tomodachi> try apt-get install libldap2-dev
[09:35] <jnhghy> tomodachi: ok thanks I'll try right now
[09:36] <jnhghy> tomodachi: you got that, you are awesome but now I hit another issue:  sasl.h: No such file or directory I remember I found something referring it while searching for lber.h ... can you give any advice about this also?
[09:36] <eldonkr_> somsip, so how do I go about getting pagemark?
[09:37] <ame> anetrnat:You dont have any configuration related to your network
[09:37] <Netham45> My location: Denver, United States
[09:37] <Netham45> Hey, that's a weird feature for this irc client to have.
[09:37] <ame> anetrnat:what is your internal IP??
[09:38] <anetrnat> 192.168.1.155 assigned by dhcp(modem) and i need 192.168.1.200
[09:38] <Ben64> anetrnat: do you need both?
[09:39] <anetrnat> yes
[09:39] <anetrnat> i need both
[09:39] <Ben64> strange
[09:39] <eldonkr> somsip, I mean; I have the form fillable .pdf, so I could crank out a whole new character sheet, but I only need to change a couple of things on the sheet, so it would be easier if I had something that could open the .oxps file.
[09:39] <Ben64> anetrnat: why?
[09:40] <eldonkr> anetrat, if you had asked me a few years ago I would have been able to help, but since I kind of quit using computers for a couple of years I forgot a bunch.
[09:40] <ame> anetrnat:For eg:if u want to connect modem using dhcp you can give entry in /etc/network/interfaces as auto eth0 ,iface eth0 inet dhcp....Now internet will work
[09:40] <anetrnat> i forwarded  ssh to 192.168.1.200 from router page which i cannot access at this moment.My only choice is to replicate eth with the correct internal ip
[09:41] <wangzh> hello
[09:41] <Ben64> anetrnat: so why do you need both IPs then...
[09:42] <anetrnat> ben i cannot ssh to the pc with that internal ip
[09:42] <ame> anetrnat:WHat is your internal IP??
[09:42] <eldonkr> anetrat, I used to have 4 computers, a networked printer, a networked drive, and two xboxes on my home network and had to  make all of their IP addreses play nice with one another. Have to do a whole lot of thinking now to remember how I did that kind of stuff back then.
[09:42] <Ben64> anetrnat: ok, that's still just telling me you need a single ip, and for it to be .200, why do you need two ip addresses?
[09:42] <anetrnat> ame> actuall internal ip is always 192.168.1.155 static
[09:42] <Ben64> then set .200 static
[09:42] <wangzh> uunti
[09:43] <eldonkr> So, any idea how I can open or edit .oxps files in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <anetrnat> ben i cannot access modem settings page,it gives static ip according to mac address which i cannot modify now
[09:43] <ame> Ben64:I think this conf suits for him...Is it?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10031744/
[09:43] <Ben64> anetrnat: set the ip address on the computer
[09:44] <T4nk001> Hi Is there a way to use login and password to machine for wifi login/password ? In a way that when a user is login in he automatically connects to wifi with the same credentials
[09:44] <Tzunamii> eldonkr: lmgtfy...  Pagemark XpsViewer
[09:45] <anetrnat> ben64>> will that over ride the rule in routers dhcp?? besides i have another problem...
[09:45] <Ben64> anetrnat: if its static set with network-manager or whatever, then it doesn't do dhcp at all
[09:46] <anetrnat> ame >> if i miss connection i wont be able to connect again... Shall i put the pastes in ???
[09:47] <ame> anetrnat:that is a sample of mine because i connected internet through dhcp and static ip for internal network...IF it suits you you can continue with your ip...
[09:47] <ame> anetrnat:Configure and restart network
[09:48] <ame> where to get support for installing ubuntu for mobile??
[09:48] <Ben64> !touch
[09:48] <anetrnat> okay ame thank, i ll al least try
[09:49] <ame> anetrnat:okay
[09:49] <ame> Ben64:#touch ??
[09:49] <Ben64> ame: look at what ubottu said
[09:50] <ame> oh my god...you replied know so only asked you
[09:50] <ame> Anybody can tell me how to connect to the mobile IRC??
[09:51] <geektech713> androIRC
[09:51] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, I'm still having trouble with my HP Scanjet Scanner not being recognised by ubuntu (14.04). Yes it *should* work as sane is listed as being compatible with it, but it still isn't recognised. When I apply use the command sudo sane-find-scanner, nothing is found. Does anyone have any other ideas. (Yes I have checked the connections)
[09:52] <geektech713> restart your ubuntu
[09:52] <geektech713> idk
[09:53] <ame> geektech713:androidIRC !!! Am asking about for the IRC of installing  ubuntu on mobile phones
[09:54] <bazhang> !touch | ame
[09:55] <geektech713> Ubuntu Touch is out? is like a skin for android?
[09:56] <geektech713> probality cant do that on my verizon wireless phone
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !touch | geektech713 read
[09:57] <geektech713> ya i am reading it lol
[09:58] <eldonkr> Tzunamii is lmgtfy a program?
[10:00] <Tzunamii> I need more coffee
[10:02] <pieterbreed> hi all, sorry if this question has a known answer already, but are we having issues with mirrors at the moment?
[10:02] <boodllebat> i need help with Grub
[10:02] <boodllebat> when i start my System i have two option to boot with ubuntu or Windows(dev1/sda) i wanna hide windows in a manner such that it can be opened only by command line not directly
[10:03] <cfhowlett> pieterbreed, *all* mirrors?  unlikely.   some?  possibly.
[10:04] <pieterbreed> za.archive.ubuntu.com only responds with forbidden (403), some of the folders on us.archive.ubuntu.com fails with 404 in my browser and with 403 from apt-get update: eg  Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/main/source/Sources  403  Forbidden
[10:04] <cfhowlett> pieterbreed, same here.  try changing mirros
[10:06] <GeertJohan> Why do I get 403 forbidden here: http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages
[10:06] <cfhowlett> GeertJohan, could be down for maintenance.  it happens..
[10:07] <GeertJohan> hmm, it could return a better status code for that.. 503 temporarily unavailable for instance..
[10:07] <pieterbreed> so I'm trying literally the next mirror on the list and I'm getting 403's on the same locations too. That's 3/3 mirrors broken for me
[10:07] <GeertJohan> auch
[10:07] <OpenTokix> pieterbreed: Time to upgrade
[10:08] <pieterbreed> eg: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/main/source/Sources  403  Forbidden
[10:08] <pieterbreed> OpenTokix: upgrade from what to what?
[10:09] <OpenTokix> I get forbidden to on that file, I guess it has the wrong permissions - I would file a bug - to the group handling mirrors.
[10:09] <GeertJohan> So all file permissions set wrong..
[10:10] <GeertJohan> That would explain it definitly
[10:10] <GeertJohan> also why the mirrors fail.
[10:10] <OpenTokix> Since they are getting their files from the central repo, henche they beeing mirrors.
[10:11] <GeertJohan> yes
[10:15] <pieterbreed> where do the people hang out that care about these things?
[10:15] <neocode> how to fix this problem "ata5.00: exception Emask 0x50 SAct 0x200000 SErr 0x90a02 action 0xe frozen
[10:15] <neocode> [ 1143.594632] ata5.00: irq_stat 0x00400000, PHY RDY changed
[10:15] <neocode> [ 1143.594635] ata5: SError: { RecovComm Persist HostInt PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
[10:15] <neocode> [ 1143.594639] ata5.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[10:15] <neocode> [ 1143.594643] ata5.00: cmd 60/08:a8:00:31:d0/00:00:59:00:00/40 tag 21 ncq 4096 in
[10:15] <neocode> [ 1143.594643]          res 40/00:a8:00:31:d0/00:00:59:00:00/40 Emask 0x50 (ATA bus error)
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !paste | neocode,
[10:18] <neocode> how to fix this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/10032170/
[10:19] <cfhowlett> neocode, gotta tell the command too, please.  Put the problem in context
[10:20] <LTS14N00b> I am attempting to install a driver for my FujiXerox C110 Printer but can't find a package that is aimed at Ubuntu. I have downloaded an official RPM package, but from what I have read it is incompatible. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:21] <rrr> if i add an entry into /etc/crontab, do i have to run some command to make it effective?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> LTS14N00b, RPM is redhat.  ubuntu uses .debs
[10:22] <neocode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10032170/
[10:23] <farblue> Hi all - is there a way to know whether a new version of a package is being prepared for release soon? I’m specifically interested in whether a new version of apache 2.4 is being rolled for ubuntu 14.04
[10:23] <LTS14N00b> Is there a way that you know of to convert this to a .debs? Or a place where I can get a .debs version? The FX web site only has the RPM version.
[10:23] <GeertJohan> OpenTokix, pieterbreed: should we report this issue somewhere?
[10:24] <hateball> LTS14N00b: chances are all you need to do is extract the PPDs from the package and point them out manually when adding the printer
[10:26] <rrr> if i add an entry into /etc/crontab, do i have to run some command to make it effective?
[10:26] <LTS14N00b> hateball: When you say point them out, when UBUNTU asks what printer driver I want to use?
[10:26] <Ben64> rrr: thats not where you should be adding things
[10:26] <OpenTokix> GeertJohan: yes, but I am not sure where
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !cron |rrr
[10:28] <hateball> LTS14N00b: Yep, you should be able to point to a file. Perhaps on the the page you downloaded from there is even a link to just PPDs ?
[10:29] <hateball> LTS14N00b: Is it really C110 and not C1110 ?
[10:29] <LTS14N00b> hateball: I'll have a look, thanks... I did fine "alien" which is supposed to convert RPM into .deb but I'm still in the early stages of using the CLI again, I've been windowed for too long :(
[10:29] <LTS14N00b> hateball: Yes, C1110..
[10:30] <hateball> LTS14N00b: I would advise against using alien, since the binaries will be placed in the filesystem as if it were RHEL or something
[10:30] <LTS14N00b> hateball: I understood the first part of your reply, as for the second,the first made it clear that I should leave it alone :)
[10:31] <cfhowlett> LTS14N00b, alien frequently/usually fails.  best to find a native .deb file for ubuntu
[10:32] <LTS14N00b> cfhowlett: I'm looking for a PPD now, thanks..
[10:32] <hateball> LTS14N00b: deep down in the rpm is a "fxlinuxprint.ppd"
[10:32] <hateball> You should be able to extract it
[10:33] <hateball> Just open with your regular archive manager
[10:33] <LTS14N00b> hateball: OK
[10:34] <LTS14N00b> hateball: Should I put it anywhere specific?
[10:34] <TheCrow> Hi I need some help, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a Sony VAIO Y Notebook but it always gets stuck on SYSLINUX 4.07 EDD
[10:34] <farblue> anyone know if a package for apache 2.4.10 or newer is being prepared for 14.04?
[10:35] <TheCrow> I used Universal USB Installer (Pendrive Linux) from Windows 8.1 to make the USB installer...
[10:37] <LTS14N00b> hateball: OK, it's been installed now (Thanks) but apparently now I have a Missing Print Filter?
[10:38] <LTS14N00b> cfhowlett: Thanks also for your input
[10:38] <cfhowlett> LTS14N00b, happy2help!
[10:39] <LTS14N00b> hateball: It has fixed itself, even better! Thanks again!!
[10:39] <anetrnat> software updater says "You are not allowed to perform this action". What must i do?
[10:40] <Hussi> https://github.com/pinguo-yuyidong/Camera2/blob/master/app/src/main/java/us/yydcdut/androidltest/otheractivity/FlashActivity.java
[10:40] <anetrnat> i cant start most control panel items because of this same permission error
[10:40] <brothersome> anetrnat, start it as root
[10:41] <anetrnat> i was thinking i am root,i am satted as root in users and groups.Do i need to do additional things?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !root
[10:42] <cfhowlett> anetrnat, starting as root is the WRONG method.
[10:42] <brothersome> anetrnat, Can you start it from command, gksudo ...
[10:42] <anetrnat> so i ll have to sudo within panel first??
[10:42] <anetrnat> ya sure, what is the exact command?
[10:42] <anetrnat> sudo su?
[10:43] <brothersome> So anetrnat, did you install the OS?
[10:44] <anetrnat> i am on 14.04..1 with mate desktop environment
[10:47] <brothersome> anetrnat, start with the normal unity environment, I had the same kind of experience with the lxce environment
[10:49] <anetrnat> unity doesnt break my rdp connection right? if i am not wrong i had to install mate for rdp purposes(not sure tho)
[10:50] <fanno> hi everyone, i am not sure of this is a ubuntu question or if it is a generic linux problem ... i am trying to play dota 2 and i had this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1382462 that i "fixed" using the CCMS. Now the problem i have is that dota seems to always pick the build in monitor to run on .. even my bigger monitor is set to primary in ~/.config/monitors.xml
[10:52] <Bagheera> hi all
[10:53] <Bagheera> anyone know how to use an alternate server for apt-get install?
[10:53] <fanno> so i guess my question is is there something else i need to do ?. if i chose to run in frameless window the it show on the correct monitor.. but it is not full scrren (oviously..) top menu is there and the window is UNDER the lancher on the left side .. if i try to turn off the lancher on the external monitor i CANT no matter if i chose all monitors or if i chose one or ther other the lancher is always displayed on the external monitor.
[10:54] <Bagheera> ?
[11:04] <Kamuela> Are there such things as drivers for displays? E.g. not graphics card drivers, but monitor drivers
[11:04] <AlexRussia> hey hey, folks
[11:06] <AlexRussia> Tell me please, does it possible: ubuntu invisibly delete partition with win7(gpt), resize own partition to full size of free space except last 1MiB, update grub and uuid of root partition in /etc/fstab ?
[11:06] <AlexRussia> I am not kidding, just guessing....
[11:09] <davide_> exit
[11:11] <doodz> How can i reset the login screen to it's default state in ubuntu 14.10?
[11:13] <dragic> CONNECT 192.168.100.234
[11:13] <dragic> #
[11:17] <ha3dwa3> hello there!
[11:17] <rigor> HI. Can someone help me with installing a program I just downloaded?
[11:18] <AlexRussia> rigor: what kind of?
[11:18] <rigor> Private Internet Access
[11:19] <rigor> AlexRussia: I got the instructions from the website but there is something im not doing right
[11:19] <k1l> rigor: rule number 1: dont load anything form any websites, try to install it from the official ubuntu repos
[11:20] <rigor> I can post the instructions I got.
[11:20] <Sashco> Need haaalp...lol. I accidentally closed the terminal window during installation of 14.10 xubuntu. It was during removal of packages. The installation stopped and closed. Now restarting the laptop is pain in the A. Blank screen most of the time. Is there a way to re-install 14.10?
[11:20] <kone011> sup
[11:20] <Sashco> it was an upgrade from 14.04 -> 14.10
[11:20] <kone011> kala vale
[11:21] <kone011> prooooom
[11:21] <kone012> joo'
[11:21] <kone011> xd
[11:21] <rigor> I downloaded the .tar.gz file and now these are the instructions, From the terminal in the directory you downloaded to:
[11:21] <rigor> 1) Extract file:
[11:21] <rigor> tar -xvf installer_linux.tar.gz
[11:21] <rigor> 2) Tell OS to proceed:
[11:21] <rigor> chmod +x installer_linux.sh
[11:21] <kone022> k
[11:21] <kone022> k
[11:21] <kone022> k
[11:21] <kone022> k
[11:21] <rigor> 3) Run installer:
[11:21] <ha3dwa3> hello
[11:21] <rigor> ./installer_linux.sh
[11:21] <Sashco> anyone?
[11:22] <Sashco> Is there a way to do a re-install of OS?
[11:22] <Ben64> Sashco: you can install fresh, but it may delete what you have on there
[11:22] <doodz> How can i reset the login screen to it's default state in ubuntu 14.10?
[11:22] <Sashco> which means I need to save folders etc?
[11:22] <Ben64> Sashco: yeah
[11:23] <rigor> What am I doing wrong with the first line? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10033090/
[11:23] <Sashco> I can do that cause this doesn't work. I need to restart my laptop several times and cross fingers the screen doesn't go black during start up
[11:23] <rigor> something I should add?
[11:23] <Ben64> Sashco: you can use the livecd to access your data and back up somewhere
[11:24] <k1l> rigor: what program is it? what error do you get?
[11:24] <Ben64> rigor: what are you installing? installing via that method should be the last resort
[11:24] <rigor> kll: Private internet access
[11:24] <Sashco> I don't have much on this laptop. Mainly documents which I can just transfer to my usbstick.
[11:24] <Sashco> besides a few programs that can be re-installed without hassle
[11:27] <k1l> rigor: you dont need that installer
[11:27] <rigor> kll, Ben64: This is what I get when entering the first line, root@xxx:~# tar -xvf installer_linux.tar.gz
[11:27] <rigor> tar: installer_linux.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:27] <rigor> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:28] <k1l> rigor: use this instructions: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/#ubuntu_openvpn_installer
[11:28] <k1l> rigor: and beeing is root is just bad idea.
[11:28] <rigor> kll: oh, didnt know that. When am I supposed to log in as root then?
[11:29] <k1l> rigor: this is not windows, where you need to be the full admin user all the time. you just give the commands that really need root the permission s with using sudo
[11:29] <JustSigh1udes> exit
[11:29] <k1l> rigor: running everything with root is a big security issue
[11:29] <rigor> kll: oh damn
[11:30] <rigor> kll: I have just downloaded "trusted" stuff anyways
[11:31] <rigor> kll: how am I supposed to download the OpenVPN installer that you linked me? If I click on it I just get plain tet
[11:31] <rigor> text*
[11:31] <k1l> rigor: that are instructions. read it!
[11:31] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, I'm installing a driver for my printer and have come across a snag where/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdffx is missing. When I try to drop this file in the directory it won't let me, so I'm assuming that I have to have Root access. How do I get root access so I can drop these files in that directory so I can use my printer?
[11:31] <k1l> rigor: you dont need any fancy installer. you can just set it to use that vpn as a regular network connection
[11:31] <rigor> LTS14N00b: sudo -s
[11:32] <k1l> rigor: stop it!
[11:32] <PhoenixSTF> where can I find help for l2tp-vpn?
[11:32] <LTS14N00b> rigor: And then use a copy command or can I use the GUI?
[11:32] <k1l> rigor: dont tell others to be root all the time when i just explained that this is a bad thing
[11:32] <rigor> kll: Well, he asked how he gets root access and I told him...
[11:33] <k1l> LTS14N00b: you can use use "mv /path/to/origin /path/to/target" and preface it with sudo
[11:34] <ha3dwa3> shhh
[11:38] <LTS14N00b> Thanks rigor and k1l, that worked. Now I have the following warning "File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdffx" has insecure permissions (0100755/uid=1000/gid=1000)."
[11:38] <doodz> How can i reset the login screen to it's default state in ubuntu 14.10?
[11:39] <GeertJohan> OpenTokix, pieterbreed: looks like the problems with the za repo's have been solved
[11:39] <k1l> doodz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371742/how-to-restore-ubuntu-login-screen-after-lubuntu-install
[11:39] <rrr> >& will redirect both stdout and stderr to stdout?
[11:40] <doodz> k1l, there is nothing inside lightdm.conf
[11:40] <k1l> doodz: is your system using lightdm=
[11:40] <k1l> ?
[11:41] <doodz> k1l, yes
[11:41] <pieterbreed> thanks
[11:42] <doodz> k1l, but in the login screen it shows me something like this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/45315/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-linux-login-screen/
[11:42] <k1l> LTS14N00b: sudo chmod 755 /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdffx
[11:42] <doodz> k1l, i  want to set it like this http://www.7chip.com/2014/04/how-to-reset-unity-login-on-ubuntu-1404.html
[11:43] <doodz> k1l, like this http://www.7chip.com/2014/04/how-to-reset-unity-login-on-ubuntu-1404.html
[11:43] <rrr> >& will redirect both stdout and stderr to stdout?
[11:43] <doodz> k1l,  i followed the guides but no luck at all
[11:44] <k1l> doodz: wait, you followed that instructions on that side? that howto is wrong.
[11:44] <k1l> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[11:44] <doodz> k1l, yes i followed this,do you have something to recommend?
[11:45] <k1l> doodz: see my right command, and the bad on in the last line in that howto
[11:45] <EriC^> rrr: &> will redirect both stdout and stderr on certain shells
[11:46] <doodz> k1l, sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. I have nothing inside lightdm.conf
[11:46] <EriC^> doodz: i think you have to add greeter-session=unity-greeter
[11:46] <LTS14N00b> k1l: I tried that command, but the printer will still not print and I still have the same error message.
[11:46] <doodz> EriC^, i have nothing inside that file
[11:46] <madghost> hi all
[11:46] <EriC^> doodz: to lightdm.conf , i've tried it before
[11:46] <EriC^> doodz: you have to create the file yourself /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[11:47] <EriC^> but there's still the matter of the notify pops coming up as lubuntu ones, i ended up removing lubuntu
[11:47] <k1l> doodz: come on. i just showed you the command you need to run
[11:47] <madghost> please, help me with net stat tool. I want to get statistic from eth interface into file, ip source + ip dest + mac of client. Which program cat do this?
[11:47] <doodz> EriC^, i have created the file and added the lines with no luck
[11:47] <EriC^> doodz: did you try to restart?
[11:48] <doodz> EriC^, yes
[11:48] <doodz> k1l, i have created the file and added the lines with no luck
[11:48] <EriC^> doodz: are you sure it is there?
 sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[11:48] <rrr> EriC^: you mean &> not >&
[11:48] <doodz> k1l, i tried that too
[11:49] <EriC^> rrr: yes
[11:49] <doodz> EriC^, you mean the file?
[11:49] <EriC^> rrr: 2>&1 means redirect stderr to stdout
[11:49] <minimec> doodz: If you added another desktop manager and that changed your lightdm login screen, then change it with 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth'. You should have a list to choose from. Otherwise you get 'There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth: /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth'
[11:49] <EriC^> doodz: whatever is in the file
[11:49] <k1l> doodz: the lightdm scripts are in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[11:50] <k1l> doodz: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM if you want to know more about that
[11:51] <doodz> minimec, i've added XFCE
[11:53] <doodz> minimec, http://s24.postimg.org/3mh1pq6hx/ubuntu.png
[11:55] <doodz> EriC^, there is nothing in the file :|
[11:56] <EriC^> doodz: type sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[11:56] <EriC^> press ctrl+o to save
[11:56] <AlexRussia> oh, lol
[11:57] <doodz> EriC^, what to save nothing? :P
[11:57] <EriC^> add greeter-session=unity-greeter
[11:57] <doodz> EriC^, i've added them before and that messed up the GUI
[11:57] <k1l> doodz: did you just invest 5 minutes to read the wiki page i linked you?
[11:58] <doodz> k1l, well,      no.
[11:58] <k1l> doodz: ok. than dont ask again if you dont even read the answers
[12:01] <rrr> EriC^: &> seems work for bash
[12:01] <NextStep> My Quanton doesn't power up! No LED's, nothing! what can be wrong? worked fine until yesterday.
[12:03] <k1l> NextStep: what is quanton?
[12:04] <NextStep> k1l: a FC that runs TauLabs
[12:06] <k1l> NextStep: well, hardware can break. i think you have more feedback when talking to the quanton or taulabs guys
[12:07] <NextStep> k1l: oh, sorry, frong chat, thanks!
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:21] <Sashco> Is there a way to fix black screen problem on startup after I've upgraded to 14.10 on xubuntu. I have to boot on recovery mode in order to get to desktop and use my computer normally. Though with shitty interface
[12:23] <pybe> Sashco: what pc/graphics
[12:23] <Sashco> its a hp pavillion g6 with rtl8192ce graphic card
[12:23] <Sashco> sorry
[12:23] <Sashco> that's my internet card
[12:23] <Sashco> lol
[12:24] <pybe> Sashco: lspci | grep VGA
[12:25] <Sashco> Sumo [Radeon HD 6380G]
[12:27] <Sashco> this issue earlier today was this. I chose to upgrade to 14.10 from 14.04. Everything was going smoothly until the installation came to removal of unnecessary packages. During this, I managed to close the terminal window and terminate the installation.
[12:27] <Sashco> Rebooting after this resulted in black screen on startup
[12:28] <jatt> so you aborted the installation process in the middle?
[12:28] <Sashco> So now my interface is running with this old look. Feels like I am on Windows 95
[12:28] <Sashco> yes :-/
[12:28] <Sashco> Don't know why I closed the terminal window. My browser was up and I wanted to close it.
[12:28] <jatt> resume the installation/configuration of packages, probably your system is in an unstable state
[12:29] <Sashco> yes it is...so I can't run it normally
[12:29] <Sashco> the only was is through advanced options for ubuntu in bios
[12:29] <jatt> do a
[12:29] <jatt> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:29] <Sashco> did that :-/ doesn't help
[12:29] <minimec> Sashco: What about 'sudo apt-get -f install' to finish eventual pending operations? Then 'sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean'? Then I would try to handle the xserver problem.
[12:29] <Sashco> kk..I can try.
[12:30] <Sashco> I'll be back here and let you know if it worked
[12:30] <fanno> **bump hi everyone, i am not sure of this is a ubuntu question or if it is a generic linux problem ... i am trying to play dota 2 and i had this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1382462 that i "fixed" using the CCMS. Now the problem i have is that dota seems to always pick the build in monitor to run on .. even my bigger monitor is set to primary in ~/.config/monitors.xml
[12:30] <fanno> so i guess my question is is there something else i need to do ?. if i chose to run in frameless window the it show on the correct monitor.. but it is not full scrren (oviously..) top menu is there and the window is UNDER the lancher on the left side .. if i try to turn off the lancher on the external monitor i CANT no matter if i chose all monitors or if i chose one or ther other the lancher is always displayed on the external monitor.
[12:31] <jatt> Sashco: do
[12:31] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[12:31] <jatt> do you get a list of packages?
[12:31] <Sashco> quite many yes
[12:31] <Sashco> jatt
[12:31] <jatt> do  the lines start with:
[12:31] <jatt> rc
[12:31] <jatt> ?
[12:32] <jatt> or better can you pastebin the list?
[12:32] <Sashco> yes
[12:32] <Sashco> give me a sec
[12:33] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/n2EMbVER
[12:33] <Sashco> should I still try what minimec purposed?
[12:34] <Sashco> Reading package lists... Done
[12:34] <Sashco> Building dependency tree
[12:34] <Sashco> Reading state information... Done
[12:34] <Sashco> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:34] <Sashco> seems everything is ok?
[12:34] <fanno> Sashco: i been reading little of what you said. do you have your background image but no lancher or top menu ? EG right click working ?
[12:34] <fanno> Sashco: or is it really "blank"
[12:35] <jatt> on a stable system all your packages should be in ii state
[12:35] <jatt> not in rc state
[12:35] <Sashco> the thing is...when I reboot or boot the laptop, and just leave it without pressing esc and going into bios, I first get kinda lighted black screen. You can see that it's booting. But, when my login is suppose to show up it goes black.
[12:35] <Sashco> and that's it
[12:36] <fanno> Sashco: ok it is not the problem i had also mine was only after login. nm on my end =(
[12:36] <Sashco> np
[12:36] <Sashco> Just trying to figure this out :-/annoying
[12:37] <Sashco> jatt
[12:37] <ovrflw0x> i inserted cd into laptop but i don't see disk drive icon in ubuntu 14.10
[12:37] <ovrflw0x> why
[12:37] <Sashco> what do I do then to get them from rc state?
[12:37] <ravibn> Hi! I need to install nvidia graphics driver 340.76 How do I go abt doing this?
[12:37] <fanno> i have issues with dual monitor after upgrading to 14.10 =( so i know the feeling. i finaly got it working. now i just cant make dota 2 show up on the external monitor.
[12:37] <_joey> I have Platronics usb headphone connected. The driver is loaded. How do I configure the system to play sound in headphone instead of speakers?
[12:37] <_joey> thanks!
[12:37] <Sashco> I wish I didn't have to run my laptop that looks like I am running Windows 95 :-/ lol
[12:38] <jatt> you can do:
[12:38] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P
[12:38] <jatt> to remove them, but not sure this will completely solve your problem
[12:38] <jatt> but maybe removing them and then
[12:38] <jatt> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:38] <jatt> will do
[12:38] <Sashco> here goes nothing :-)
[12:38] <Jamil> hi all, I am looking to change font used by calender/terminal for local language as in: http://imgur.com/pMqfgAq
[12:38] <tomodachi> _joey: you can select input and output sound device in your volume settings
[12:38] <Sashco> it's removing
[12:38] <ravibn> Hi! I need to install nvidia graphics driver 340.76 How do I go abt doing this? Trusty 14.04
[12:39] <jatt> after is ready do
[12:39] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[12:39] <jatt> to ensure all packages are in installed state
[12:39] <Sashco> the thing is. This is where everything kinda stopped after I accidentally closed terminal window. The installation was at that point getting rid of all these unnecessary packages.
[12:39] <Sashco> so maybe that is the issue.
[12:39] <jatt> could be
[12:39] <Ben64> ravibn: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa use this ppa, its not supported though
[12:40] <ravibn> Ben64 : what is not supported?
[12:40] <Ben64> ravibn: what i just said...
[12:40] <minimec> Sashco: I was away for a moment, but if you have 'pending' packages, 'sudo apt-get -f install' would try to resolve that...
[12:40] <Sashco> minimec, I did that...everything was at 0.
[12:41] <Sashco> I am trying what jatt purposed now
[12:41] <Sashco> may work
[12:41] <ravibn> Ben64 : since it is an archive that is the reason?
[12:41] <Ben64> ravibn: since its not an ubuntu repository
[12:41] <Sashco> k, when I run dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii now nothing shows up
[12:41] <jatt> ok
[12:42] <ravibn> Ben64 : https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia how abt this?
[12:42] <minimec> Sashco: Then 'sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean' would uninstall obsolete packages and remove the packages from the 'archive' folder. That should give you a rather clean archive.
[12:42] <Ben64> ravibn: the one i linked to you is the best option
[12:42] <jatt> try to reboot and see if it gets better, if not another possibility would be to run dpkg-reconfigure all
[12:42] <Sashco> k, I've done everything now. So reboot time
[12:42] <Sashco> I'll be back to tell you whether it worked or not
[12:42] <ovrflw0x> i inserted cd into laptop but i don't see disk drive icon in ubuntu 14.10
[12:43] <Jamil> no takers ?
[12:43] <ravibn> Ben64 : how do I go abt adding this ppa and install?
[12:43] <Ben64> ravibn: if you go to the site i linked to you, the instructions are there
[12:43] <ovrflw0x> anybody?
[12:45] <ravibn> Ben64 : suppose if the driver has problem how will I roll back to what I have currently?
[12:45] <Sashco> yes, It booted
[12:45] <Sashco> normally!
[12:45] <jatt> good
[12:46] <Sashco> I still get the msg regarding the xscreensaver being too old
[12:46] <jatt> can you pastebin that message?
[12:46] <Sashco> and my icons and toolbar still look like they are from windows 95
[12:46] <Ben65> ravibn: why do you need nvidia 340
[12:46] <ravibn> Ben64 : I mean to say after adding the ppa and installing the driver and if it fails will it roll back ?
[12:46] <Sashco> it just pops up as a pop-up window
[12:47] <jatt> and maybe imgur your desktop to see how your icons and toolbar look like?
[12:47] <ravibn> Ben64 : b'cos I hv that nvidia NVS 3100M card on my notebook and that is the driver match on nvidia site
[12:47] <jatt> maybe you can uninstall xscreensaver I think is not needed
[12:48] <Sashco> I've been searching and seems that some have purposed to install gnome version
[12:48] <ravibn> Ben64 : http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.76/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.76.run&lang=us&type=geforcem
[12:49] <jatt> are you running 14.10?
[12:49] <Sashco> yes
[12:50] <Sashco> I'm unisntalling it now
[12:50] <Ben65> ravibn: you dont need 340 for that
[12:50] <jatt> I guess you are hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/1406825
[12:51] <ravibn> Ben64 : what other driver will I need ?
[12:51] <Sashco> will reinstalling it fix the problem, jatt?
[12:51] <puffi> Anyone know if Ubuntu has an equivilent of German(US) keyboard layout?
[12:52] <Sashco> I am considering installing gnome version?
[12:52] <Ben65> ravibn: the one that comes with ubuntu works fine
[12:52] <jatt> I don't think so, in the bug report they say the original author put a silly check that causes that message :-(
[12:52] <jatt> so reinstalling will not help I'm afraid
[12:52] <jatt> I use 14.10 but xubuntu, so I haven't seen that problem before
[12:53] <Sashco> oh..forgot to mention, I am on xubuntu too
[12:53] <ravibn> Ben65 : great! but just tell me why this driver supplied by nvidia is not necassary?
[12:53] <pybe> Sashco: try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <Sashco> and that msg has been popping up every time I booted, even in recovery mode
[12:53] <jatt> I see, I don't see any issue with my widgets/desktop
[12:54] <Sashco> root@Sashco:~# apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <Sashco> Reading package lists... Done
[12:54] <Sashco> Building dependency tree
[12:54] <Sashco> Reading state information... Done
[12:54] <Sashco> xubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[12:54] <Sashco> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:54] <Ben64> ravibn: because ubuntu comes with an nvidia driver...
[12:54] <jatt> does it make a difference whether you start a xfce or a xubuntu session? you have the option to choose between the two when you login
[12:54] <ravibn> Ben65 : ok! thnks
[12:55] <pybe> Sashco: lsb_release -a
[12:55] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/WZXR5xDG
[12:55] <Sashco> seems to be ok
[12:57] <jatt> you can also try to move ~/.config/xfce4 out of the way and restart maybe there is something from your old config that is messing with the new xfce version
[12:58] <Sashco> jatt, how do I do that? I am still rookie with linux
[12:58] <Grant_P> Hi All, trying to configure my raid on 14.04 with mdadm. After configuring and rebooting the raid vanishes and i need to setup again
[12:58] <jatt> try
[12:58] <jatt> mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/
[12:58] <jatt> in case something breaks you can move it back
[12:58] <Sashco> from root or normal?
[12:59] <jatt> are you starting xfce as root?
[12:59] <jatt> if not from your user
[12:59] <Sashco> kk
[12:59] <jatt> as normal
[12:59] <k1l> dont start xfce as anything. start the lightdm
[12:59] <Sashco> nothing happens
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Sashco, logout/login
[13:00] <pybe> Sashco: could also check /var/log/dist-upgrade to see if any errors from the interrupted upgrade
[13:00] <jatt> that command moves the ~/config/xfc4 to another location so it gets repopulated when the desktop is started again
[13:00] <Sashco> so I'll just log out and log back in again.
[13:01] <Sashco> k, something did happened!
[13:02] <Sashco> I think I have the 14.10 interface now
[13:02] <jatt> if everything is ok now, you can remove the directory you moved:
[13:02] <jatt> rm -rf ~/xfce4
[13:03] <Ben64> be super careful with that command
[13:03] <Sashco> okey, one issue though. I had a line of buttons at the bottom which is now gone
[13:03] <jatt> probably you need to reset your panels again
[13:03] <Jamil> hi all, I am looking to change font used by calender/terminal for local language as in: http://imgur.com/pMqfgAq
[13:03] <jatt> but somehow they were messing with the current version
[13:05] <Sashco> hmmm...can't seem to get it back
[13:05] <Sashco> I can still access that same line as favorites at startbutton in the top left corner
[13:06] <jatt> right click there and add new panel, then add launchers to the new panel
[13:10] <xtpeeps> wanna help :about  popcorn.tar.xz
[13:10] <xtpeeps> realy dont know how to install it~~:/
[13:10] <k1l> !details | xtpeeps
[13:11] <Sashco> I think it does it for today! :-) the panel at the bottom of the screen is not that important as the only things I was using it for was to launch firefox and terminal. This was I'll force myself to start programs and everything else through terminal
[13:12] <Sashco> xtpeeps
[13:13] <Sashco> just search "install popcorn on ubuntu terminal"
[13:13] <jatt> you can always add new panels and put new launchers in it as you wish
[13:13] <Sashco> I am having problem adding the ones that I had...for some reason when I make a new horizontal panel and make it
[13:14] <Sashco> I can't add web browser nor terminal to it
[13:14] <Sashco> they are not showed as optional
[13:14] <jatt> you need to add a launcher and then configure the launcher to launch the terminal
[13:15] <ovrflw0x> how to open CD in ubuntu?
[13:15] <tomodachi> ovrflw0x: how do you mean open?
[13:15] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: type eject in the terminal
[13:15] <k1l> ovrflw0x: how would you do it on windows?
[13:15] <ovrflw0x> tomodachi, i inserted cd but nothing shows up in files manager
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, pressing eject open up the tray
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> i've got laptop
[13:16] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: ok, see where /dev/sr0 is mounted
[13:16] <lord4163> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ so slow :(
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> how EriC^^
[13:16] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: type df
[13:17] <Joropo> salut
[13:17] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, there's no sr0 there
[13:17] <k1l> !torrent | lord4163
[13:17] <k1l> ovrflw0x: what is on that cd?
[13:17] <Joropo> do you speak French
[13:17] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt
[13:17] <lord4163> k1l: there are no torrents
[13:17] <k1l> !fr | Joropo
[13:17] <k1l> lord4163: what iso?
[13:18] <lord4163> k1l: Kubuntu vivid daily
[13:18] <xtpeeps> here's a software named Popcorn-time whitch can watch movies free in it,im using ubuntu 14.04 , i got the software  Popcorn-Time-0.3.6-Linux32.tar.xz,but i dont know how to install it, i had searched something about install ***.tar.xz , and now i had already unzip the ****.tar.xz, but i still dont know how todo with these new files:libffmpegsumo.so,nw.pak,Popcorn-Time......anyone know that?
[13:18] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock
[13:18] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: hmm try sudo /dev/cdrom -o loop /mnt
[13:18] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: hmm try sudo mount -o loop /dev/cdrom /mnt
[13:19] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, same message
[13:19] <ovrflw0x> mount: /dev/loop0: can't read superblock
[13:19] <xtpeeps> i was so helpless
[13:19] <solsTiCe> xtpeeps: you don't install it. you run it from where you unzip it. from the cli/terminal type ./Popcorn-Time
[13:19] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: try the second command
[13:19] <ovrflw0x> which?
[13:19] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[13:20] <k1l> lord4163: see if a mirror near you got the dailys too
[13:20] <k1l> lord4163: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[13:20] <Sashco> jatt: it keeps putting everything I put into launcher in the same "line" so I have to scroll for the items, instead of placing them next to eachother?
[13:20] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, what to do now?
[13:20] <xtpeeps> solsTiCe, let me see
[13:20] <lord4163> k1l: well I'll just be patient
[13:20] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: try sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt
[13:20] <tomodachi> ovrflw0x: if its a data cd ubuntu will mount it automatically , if its not you will not see anything
[13:21] <Sashco> or do I simply have to add new launcher for new item?
[13:21] <ovrflw0x> tomodachi, it has .cda tracks music
[13:21] <jatt> Sashco: you need to add a launcher per application
[13:21] <jatt> Sashco: to have them in different positions
[13:21] <Sashco> yeah, I figured it out :-)
[13:21] <jatt> good :)
[13:21] <xtpeeps> solsTiCe, Popcorn-Time-linux64/Popcorn-Time: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:22] <tomodachi> ovrflw0x: never use audio cds in my computer so i dont know how they look
[13:22] <tomodachi> but they are not "files"
[13:22] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0,       missing codepage or helper program, or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail or so.
[13:23] <tomodachi> ovrflw0x: try plaing the cd with some player like vlc , but it has a raw audio cd has no concept of files really
[13:23] <xtpeeps> solsTiCe, should i mov the libffmpegsumo.so to ./lib  ...?
[13:24] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, what to do now?
[13:25] <ovrflw0x> EriC^^, you there bud? what to do?
[13:26] <xtpeeps> solsTiCe, hello ...?
[13:26] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: no idea man
[13:26] <EriC^^> ovrflw0x: try to clean the cd maybe?
[13:27] <k1l> xtpeeps: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-popcorn-time-in-ubuntu-or.html   that might be illegal in some countries. so better ask the popcorn makers for support
[13:27] <Sashco> jatt; thanks for all the help!
[13:27] <jatt> you are welcome
[13:27] <Sashco> Think I am done now.Btw, I haven't moved back the folder that you told me to
[13:27] <Sashco> should I do it?
[13:27] <jatt> you can remove it
[13:27] <Sashco> kk
[13:28] <xtpeeps> k1l, okey...
[13:28] <jatt> ~/xfce
[13:28] <jatt> that one
[13:28] <Sashco> done! I'll do one more reboot
[13:28] <Sashco> and see if things work
[13:28] <jatt> ok if you wish
[13:28] <Jakey2> Hi has anyone installed beautiful soup 4 for python in ubuntu
[13:29] <Jakey2> i keep getting errors
[13:50] <Sashco> jatt: you still here? :-) seems that the black screen when doing a normal startup is persistent. The only way to start the laptop is through system recovery from bios.
[13:50] <Sashco> As long as I start it from system recovery it works.
[13:51] <Sashco> otherwise I just get a black screen
[13:53] <Guest43867> q
[13:54] <jatt> Sashco: that's unfortunate. didn't it work the first time you remove after you deleted the packages in rc state?
[13:54] <Sashco> yep it did.
[13:55] <epinky> I've got to set nameserver /etc/resolv,conf everytime I reboot the OS, I'm using ubuntu 12.04, how to get configure once and only once?
[13:55] <Sashco> After I left the channel to do a reboot it was just showing blank screen times and times again
[13:55] <jatt> so is something that happens only when you power on the machine? not with reboots?
[13:55] <jatt> when you get one of these screens, do you have access to a shell?
[13:55] <jatt> if yes can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[13:55] <Sashco> If I do reboot from terminal it happens, If I restart by logging out it happens..and it happens when I start the laptop cold
[13:56] <Sashco> nope :-/
[13:56] <Sashco> it's just black
[13:56] <jatt> when it's just black, can you still do
[13:56] <jatt> ctrl + alt + f1
[13:56] <jatt> to switch to a terminal?
[13:56] <Sashco> I assume I am at the login page, because when I type my password "in blind" and press enter I can hear the laptop working in the background. Though nothing but black screen
[13:57] <Sashco> nope..tried that too
[13:57] <jatt> hmm... not sure what is happening, because if your machine reacts, ctrl + alt + f1 should work
[13:57] <Sashco> while pressing esc at startup gets me to system recovery. from there I open grub and into advanced options.
[13:57] <tomodachi> Sashco: ssh into the laptop and have a look?!
[13:57] <tomodachi> Sashco: could also be your brighness setting?
[13:58] <tomodachi> epinky: set your nameserver in network manager not in the config file
[13:58] <Sashco> it works perfectly now...I started it from advanced settings in system recovery. Not even in recovery mode. Regular mdoe
[13:58] <Sashco> mode*
[13:58] <jatt> yes, try to find a way to access the machine and pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg
[13:59] <jatt> ? now is working? did you reboot again?
[13:59] <Sashco> you need to guide me heh.
[13:59] <Sashco> it is working now.
[13:59] <Sashco> from system recovery
[13:59] <Sashco> that's the thing
[13:59] <Sashco> while if I just let it boot normally it boots to a black screen
[13:59] <epinky> tomodachi: how to do that?
[13:59] <jatt> then something is messing with the normal boot of the machine
[13:59] <Sashco> :-/
[13:59] <jatt> can you pastebin Xorg.1.log.old
[14:00] <jatt> /var/log/Xorg.1.log.old
[14:00] <jatt> that should be the Xorg log of the time the thing failed
[14:00] <jatt> I meant
[14:00] <jatt> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[14:00] <joyce_> How do I fix "cannot add PPA" error in linux? I tried, "sudo -E add-apt-repository ppa: ppaname/ppa".But it didn't work.Any valuable suggestions?
[14:01] <boichev> How to make ubuntu server 14.04 to stick the cpu governor on performance ?
[14:01] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/0nWEqQ3q
[14:01] <Sashco> there we go
[14:01] <Sashco> oh
[14:01] <Sashco> give me a sec. I did the 1
[14:01] <Sashco> that one is blank
[14:02] <Sashco> nothing in i
[14:02] <Sashco> t
[14:02] <jatt> I see
[14:02] <jatt> [ 92062.433] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[14:02] <jatt> can you pastebin  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:02] <jatt> that should be the one that is working
[14:03] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/3bZBzy9X
[14:03] <Sashco> there
[14:03] <jatt> I see both have the same (EE) so that's not the problem
[14:04] <Sashco> I don't get it...it's black screen in one mode while if I start it in a different way it can start normally.
[14:05] <Sashco> and also, I the splash logo of xubuntu is no longer showing.
[14:05] <Sashco> regardless of what startup I choose
[14:05] <jatt> can you paste bin the /var/dmesg*gz contents of the time it failed?
[14:06] <jatt> I meant /var/log/dmesg*gz
[14:06] <jatt> and /var/log/dmesg
[14:07] <Sashco> I have .gz files but all are either 1 or higher
[14:07] <Sashco> dmesg I mean
[14:07] <Sashco> there is file called dmesg
[14:08] <jatt> i suspect /var/log/dmesg.1.gz was the one where it fails
[14:08] <k1l> joyce_: what is the exact error? please use a pastebin for command and output
[14:08] <jatt> /var/log/dmesg is the log of your current kernel session the one that is working
[14:08] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/zuFQBHDq
[14:08] <Sashco> then this is the one
[14:09] <Sashco> I have several others...If that one doesn't show anything.
[14:10] <Sashco> when I try to open dmesg.2.gz and dmesg.4.gz I get errors
[14:10] <Sashco> while dmesg.1.gz and dmesg.3.gz contain the same file; dmesg.0
[14:11] <jatt> the only suspicious thing I see is:
[14:11] <jatt> [   23.503920] init: failsafe main process (614) killed by TERM signal
[14:11] <jatt>  
[14:11] <kaikas> It "might". GPUDirect registers itself as peer memory to ibverbs and changes the paging table. The same should be possible for DirectGMA. But we'll see.
[14:11] <jatt> what does
[14:11] <jatt> uname -a
[14:11] <jatt> say on your machine?
[14:12] <kaikas> wrong chat. Sorry.
[14:12] <o_be_one> hi all
[14:12] <Silex> hello, qt5webkit depends on gstreamer 1.0 but qt5multimedia depends on gstreamer 0.10. This has the effect that you cannot use both in the same app http://codepad.org/U09OqMxa
[14:12] <o_be_one> what is E state for a processus please ? cant find on google :(
[14:12] <Silex> (ubuntu 14.04)
[14:12] <Silex> any way around that?
[14:13] <rsevero> Hi, I'm finishing the configuration of my second server being migrated from Gentoo to Ubuntu. Unfortunatelly, when I did a last boot to see if everything would come up ok the boot process started to hang on "Stopping Send an event to indicate plymouth is up". Any ideas what might be causing this?
[14:14] <k1l> Silex: 3rd party repos like PPAs active?
[14:14] <Sashco> jatt: Linux Sashco 3.16.0-30-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 12 22:06:37 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:14] <Sashco> this is the one I ran from system recovery
[14:14] <sheer> hello
[14:14] <sheer> a) anyone can recommend a solid, straightforward IRC app for mac?
[14:15] <sheer> b) anyone can direct me through the process of making a back up of my hard drive with a bunch of DVD's? (on linux)
[14:15] <Sashco> there were 4 options there.
[14:15] <Silex> k1l: good idea, do you know of any? can't find one for 14.04
[14:15] <jatt> yes that is the latest kernel for 14.10
[14:15] <Sashco> 3.16.0-30-generic & 3.16-30-generic(recovery mode)
[14:15] <k1l> Silex: no, do you have some enabled?
[14:15] <Silex> no, I don't
[14:15] <Sashco> so I ran the one that didn't said recovery mode
[14:16] <jatt> the 3.16-30-generic(recovery mode) entry is the one that works isn't it?
[14:16] <Sashco> all of the 4 that I can choose from there seem to work..
[14:16] <tomodachi> sheer: why backup to dvd and not to another disk?! its faster and you  can run backups continiouesly
[14:16] <jatt> ? which is the entry that does not work?
[14:16] <Sashco> the other two are 3.16.0-45-generic & 3.16-45-generic(recovery mode)
[14:16] <Sashco> the regular startup
[14:16] <Silex> k1l: just look for yourself: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libqt5webkit5 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libqt5multimedia5-plugins
[14:17] <fidel_> sheer: there is xchat aqua available for osx - apart from that - i guess ##mac can answer such questions way better
[14:17] <Sashco> where I don't have to enter bios
[14:17] <Silex> k1l: they depends each on a different version
[14:17] <jatt> 3.16.0-45-generic hmmm...
[14:17] <Sashco> just pressing ON-button on computer and let it start
[14:17] <Silex> k1l: and it's the same in utopic...
[14:17] <Sashco> which is pretty weird.
[14:18] <jatt> where do you have that kernel from? I though the latest kernel for utopic was 3.16.0-30
[14:18] <Silex> I geuss I should fill a bug report.. where do I do that for ubuntu?
[14:18] <jatt> can you pastebin
[14:18] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep 3.16.0-45
[14:19] <k1l> Silex: ok, so please file a bug so the maintainers can solve that depency
[14:19] <k1l> !bug | Silex
[14:19] <Silex> alright, thanks
[14:19] <sheer> tomodachi: i wanted to install windows over ubuntu (i think it's too late to dual boot now)
[14:19] <Sashco> When I start the laptop I press esc to get into option menu. There I press system recovery and shift to get to grub. There I get to choose "Ubuntu", "Advanced options for Ubuntu" and 2 other options for testing memory. When I go to Advanced options I get those 4 options 3.16.0-30/45-generic & 3.16-30/45-generic(recovery mode)
[14:19] <sheer> tomodachi: i have no disks at the moment, yet
[14:19] <sheer> thanks fidel_
[14:20] <k1l> sheer: 1) for mac ask the mac guys
[14:20] <Sashco> And I've tested them all since earlier today. And I get normal startup regardless which one of the ones I choose.
[14:20] <k1l> !backup | sheer
[14:20] <jatt> if 3.16.0-30 works (here on my laptop I'm also running 3.16.0-30 without issues) it should be safe to remove 3.16.0-45 so it gets removed from grub
[14:20] <jatt> and you get only the kernels that work
[14:21] <Sashco> how do I do that?
[14:21] <jatt> can you pastebin
[14:21] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep 3.16.0-45
[14:21] <sheer> geez so many!
[14:21] <sheer> thanks k1l
[14:21] <jatt> and
[14:21] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep 3.16.0-30
[14:22] <Jamil> hi all, I am looking to change font used by calender/terminal for local language as in: http://imgur.com/pMqfgAq
[14:22] <Sashco> on the first one I get nothing
[14:22] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/CrbDd6Mv
[14:22] <Sashco> thats the 30
[14:23] <Silex> k1l: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1363314
[14:23] <Sashco> give me a sec. I'll restart to get the exact names. And run the 45 version
[14:23] <Silex> ;)
[14:23] <jatt> can you pastebin
[14:23] <jatt> ls -altr /boot
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> !arabic | Jamil guess the people here know best
[14:24] <Jamil> MonkeyDust: but its urdu
[14:24] <Jamil> and ubuntu-arabic is empty
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Jamil  from what country is thatN
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> ?
[14:24] <Jamil> MonkeyDust: Pakistan
[14:25] <Jamil> MonkeyDust: I have a font file I want to use, just need to know where to look
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> !fonts
[14:26] <Sashco> I think I understand what the issue is jatt
[14:26] <Sashco> seems that I still have the older kernel
[14:27] <jatt> please tell me I am confused also :)
[14:27] <Sashco> it's 3.13 version
[14:27] <Sashco> and not 3.16
[14:27] <jatt> ohhh I see
[14:27] <jatt> that's probably the kernel before the upgrade
[14:27] <LurkAshFlake> when i start virtualbox after restarting it fail because the file is in /media/lurk/extraSpace, extraSpace being a 250g partition. when i cd /media/lurk && ls, nothing appear. The solution is to go in nautilus click on partition extraspace, idk if it affect but i always right-click my virtualmachine and look up it's path which says /media/lurk/extraspace and then POOF the partition show up back again in my shell
[14:27] <jatt> so 3.13 fails and 3.16 works?
[14:27] <Sashco> I am on 3.13 now
[14:27] <Sashco> since I chose it
[14:27] <Jamil> MonkeyDust: installing font is not the issue, how do I tell ubuntu to use that font e.g in terminal/calendar
[14:28] <Sashco> so it works too
[14:28] <Sashco> but I have to choose it manually through system recovery
[14:28] <Sashco> but I don't need both.
[14:28] <jatt> if 3.16 works I would say remove 3.13 first to avoid confusion
[14:29] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/9a3JGsCW
[14:29] <Jamil> perhaps /etc/fonts/conf.d/90-fonts-nafees.conf
[14:29] <Sashco> http://pastebin.com/mLhCHB9f
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> Jamil  install unity-tweak-tool, it has a fonts section
[14:29] <Sashco> the first one is 3.13 45 and the other 3.16 30
[14:29] <jatt> just to be sure: 3.16 works too for you isn't it?
[14:29] <Sashco> yes
[14:29] <jatt> in recovery mode
[14:29] <Sashco> both work
[14:30] <Sashco> in either
[14:30] <jatt> ?
[14:30] <jatt> so what doesn't work?
[14:30] <jatt> I lost track :)
[14:30] <LurkAshFlake> Why my partition disapear in gnome-terminal until i reach it from nautilus
[14:30] <Sashco> hehehe...when I start my computer regularly. Which means just pressing the on button. That doesn't work
[14:31] <LurkAshFlake> it then reapear
[14:31] <Sashco> while when I go into system recovery and choose any one of the four options it seems to start normally
[14:31] <jatt> I see, I would remove the old kernel to concentrate only to make one work:
[14:31] <jatt> dpkg --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-45-generic
[14:31] <jatt> then restart
[14:31] <jatt> then you should have only two entries in grub
[14:31] <jatt> mdnu
[14:31] <jatt> menu
[14:32] <Sashco> okey...but I am running on that kernal now. Should I restart first on 3.16 kernel and then do that command?
[14:32] <jatt> yes you are right restart first on 3.16
[14:32] <Sashco> kk
[14:32] <Sashco> be back
[14:32] <petrol> My function keys are not working after update
[14:32] <petrol> any quick suggesitons?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> petrol  define "not working"
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> petrol  and in what ubuntu version?
[14:34] <belovedbe> How do I locate which hardware position my USB port "00:02.1" has? I have 4 USB port (2 upper and 2 lower)
[14:34] <petrol> Okay, I am actually not able to reduce my screen brightness through function key in my laptop
[14:34] <petrol> MonkeyDust, its 12
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> petrol  12.04 or 12.10?
[14:35] <petrol> How can I check that?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> petrol  cat /etc/issue
[14:36] <petrol> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[14:36] <Sashco> alright
[14:36] <Sashco> jatt, what was the command for purging 3.13 kernel
[14:37] <pasku> hello
[14:39] <Sashco> jatt, what was the command for purging 3.13 kernel
[14:40] <petrol> MonkeyDust, its the hotkeys that are faliing
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> petrol  this old post (2009) suggests xbindkeys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1138939
[14:42] <muyiscoi> Hi guys. I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I'm having an issue with Ubuntu Touch on my nexus 44
[14:42] <muyiscoi> nexus 4
[14:42] <petrol> MonkeyDust, it was working fine until the update. Let me check
[14:42] <cfhowlett> muyiscoi, what issue?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> !touch | muyiscoi
[14:43] <muyiscoi> I just installed and trying to connect to the Wifi network at my university (eduroam) but nothing happens once I select the network
[14:43] <k1l> muyiscoi: in #ubuntu-touch is your issue better suited
[14:43] <cfhowlett> muyiscoi, best to see the #touch channel.
[14:43] <jatt> Sashco: dpkg --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-45-generic
[14:43] <muyiscoi> ok. let me try there. Tnx
[14:44] <joyce_> k1l: https://dpaste.de/daGM
[14:44] <swizgard> hi. how do i add https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice as a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[14:45] <k1l> joyce_: what ubuntu are you on?
[14:45] <k1l> joyce_: "lsb_release -d"
[14:46] <joyce_> k1l: ubuntu 14.04
[14:46] <k1l> joyce_: that PPA is useless since it doesnt have 14.04 packages anyway
[14:46] <Sashco> jatt
[14:47] <jatt> yes
[14:47] <Sashco> the purging command
[14:47] <Sashco> for kernel 3.13.0-30
[14:47] <joyce_> k1l: so,what can I do?
[14:47] <Sashco> for kernel 3.13.0-45 Imean
[14:47] <jatt> I sent it to you
[14:47] <jatt> here:
[14:47] <Sashco> had to restart
 Sashco: dpkg --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic
[14:47] <jatt>        linux-image-extra-3.13.0-45-generic  [15:31]
[14:47] <Sashco> thx
[14:48] <Manelistu> hi all, i got problem with facebook call .. don`t detect my webcam .... can someone help ?
[14:48] <joyce_> k1l: this is not the case only with this ppa,when I try other ppa,I get the same error
[14:48] <k1l> joyce_: you use a proxy?
[14:49] <joyce_> k1l: no
[14:49] <k1l> joyce_: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates
[14:49] <Sashco> jatt, now that it is done...reboot?
[14:50] <jatt> yes, and also try to test with the power button the removal of the old kernel will rewrite grub so maybe that fixes something
[14:56] <Sunson> hi all
[14:57] <Sashco> jatt, nope...Iam on my tab now. The problem still persists
[14:57] <Sashco> I give up
[14:57] <Sashco> it started normally once but now after 2 reboots its back to black screen
[14:58] <Sashco> seems more like a random thing
[14:58] <jatt> yes, very strange problem I also don't know what else could be. sometimes acpi=off helps but looks like a problem very specific to your hardware
[14:58] <Sashco> worked perfectly fine on 14.04
[14:59] <Sashco> oh well, thx anyway
[14:59] <Sashco> too many hours have passed doing this hehe
[14:59] <Sashco> need to get back to other tasks
[15:00] <Sashco> as long as it works I guess it's ok even though it's more of a hassle
[15:01] <RedRat_> hi guys
[15:01] <RedRat_> my ubuntu is disabling usb during boot
[15:02] <RedRat_> is possible to fix this or only reinstall?
[15:03] <Sunson> I'm new to ubuntu and need a little help on how to burn mp4 files to dvd so they can be played in a standard dvd player. I formally used a Mac with a great app called Burn that did all of the transcoding etc and burned the file to dvd no problem.  The problem is I can seem to find a similar program for ubuntu. I've tried devede and brasero. I just downloaded bombono and k3b to try them out but don't have any dvd's at the
[15:03] <Sunson> moment.  If anyone can help please let me know of any app for ubuntu that is like Burn on the mac which has been the easiest and fastest conversion/burn tool i've found. Or if you can help me work with one of the programs I have i would be grateful... please and thanks...
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> RedRat_  how did you install ubuntu? not with a usb stick?
[15:04] <RedRat_> MonkeyDust, on POST and on liveCD works fine
[15:04] <RedRat_> but when ubuntu assume boot, on certain moment it disable usb
[15:05] <RedRat_> I need to start my pc 5, 6, 8 times to work fine
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> Sunson  #ubuntu-studio (or #ubuntustudio, i forget) is multimedia dedicated, better ask there
[15:05] <RedRat_> hmmmm
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> RedRat_  and what ubuntu version is that?
[15:06] <RedRat_> managed to catch the error before the login
[15:06] <RedRat_> device not accepting address 6, errpr -71
[15:06] <RedRat_> *error
[15:07] <Sunson> MonkeyDust: ok. thanks for the reply and direction
[15:08] <joyce_> k1l: I am facing the same error again
[15:08] <xperia> Hi all. I just successfull installed the NVIDIA Driver for the GEForce 750M Graphic Card in Ubuntu. after the reboot i am able to Login but after the Login Unity is not showed anymore. I see only the Background. Can somebody tell me how i can Get Unity back to work with the new Installed Nvidia Driver ? I see some error message related to noveo driver but should this driver not be allready...
[15:08] <xperia> ...be disabled ?
[15:09] <RedRat_> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> RedRat_  and what hardware? x86? arm?
[15:11] <NELLO> Ciao a tutti :P
[15:11] <RedRat_> MonkeyDust, x86, is default dell pc
[15:12] <RedRat_> strange is, I try to start 5, 6, 7 times, on 9, works normaly
[15:14] <Daniel_mu> OMG
[15:20] <iMn00b> is Ubuntu world's most secure OS ?
[15:20] <mrvadon> hmmm.... maybe not
[15:20] <cfhowlett> iMn00b, no.
[15:20] <cfhowlett> but it's better than many/most
[15:21] <mrvadon> ..
[15:22] <RedRat_> anyone know a good liveCD to test usb?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> RedRat_  did you try ubuntu live?
[15:25] <RedRat_> MonkeyDust, on liveCD and on dell diagnostic runs fine
[15:25] <RedRat_> but this
[15:25] <RedRat_> http://paulphilippov.com/articles/how-to-fix-device-not-accepting-address-error
[15:25] <RedRat_> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9544557/debian-device-descriptor-read-64-error-71
[15:26] <RedRat_> suggest that is hardware problem
[15:27] <utkarsh_> hi
[15:28] <RedRat_> MonkeyDust, is very strange
[15:28] <RedRat_> now after tried 5 times, worked
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> RedRat_  you mean 5 reboots?
[15:31] <RedRat_> yeah
[15:33] <antimatroid> i'm trying to get the "at" command to preferably open a new terminal window, enter some commands then also let the user interact with it, or at least have the "at" command open up a video file through vlc, is this possible?
[15:33] <antimatroid> http://pastebin.com/K1rd3QcX neither the first or second line after << EOF seems to work
[15:33] <antimatroid> it is running the script with my username though
[15:41] <antimatroid> would it be possible to do with dbus-send?
[15:41] <pagios> hello i have a package running version1 and would like to autoupdate it to run version 2, apt-get update did not do it any other ways?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> pagios  sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:43] <pagios> MonkeyDust: is it risky? any rollback in case of problems? and what is the difference with distro-upgrade
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> pagios  what kind of risks or problems are you thinking of?
[15:44] <OerHeks> pagios, what package?
[15:45] <pagios> MonkeyDust: dependencies etc
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> pagios  well, a backup can help, to begin with
[15:46] <bottazzini> Anyone here had trouble with Nvidia Driver 331
[15:46] <bottazzini> ?
[15:47] <OerHeks> bottazzini, maybe someone has, do you have an issue?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> bottazzini, silly question.  2 possible responses: yes/no.  try again, focus on the important details
[15:48] <bottazzini> OerHeks: yes I cannot activate a second monitor....
[15:48] <bottazzini> cfhowlett: ^
[15:48] <cfhowlett> bottazzini, better.  what
[15:48] <pagios> MonkeyDust: another question, if i have version1 of my software which compiled a,b,c features coz only libraries of a,b,c were found upon installation, and then i install library d and do an upgrade for the package, will the package install the feature d now that library d is installed as a prereq?
[15:48] <cfhowlett> bottazzini, connecting directly to the computer?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> pagios  not sure, but you seem skilled enough to use fakeroots, to test new software
[15:50] <bottazzini> OerHeks: cfhowlett: I connect, it detects alright. Then I went to "displays" and clicked for the second monitor to be ON when I do this everything get stretched and when I click i does not click when the mouse pointer is pointing. Just some random part of the screen.
[15:51] <bottazzini> it does not click***
[15:51] <AkivaAvraham> Hey all: Live Ask Ubuntu Anything live in 10 minutes: http://ubuntuonair.com | #ubuntu-on-air
[15:51] <OerHeks> bottazzini, on what nvidia card?
[15:51] <bottazzini> Also I can't choose if the monitor is on the right or left and everything gets messy
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | AkivaAvraham
[15:52] <AkivaAvraham> SchrodingersScat, Sorry!
[15:52] <bottazzini> OerHeks: Nvidia 5400M
[15:53] <OerHeks> bottazzini, 2nd monitor with same resolution?
[15:53] <Rubass> Hi all, I have sshed into a ubuntu machine from a mac, and doing a sudo install, that approx will take an hour - Can I shutdown my Mac without interupting the installation on the remote machine?
[15:53] <bottazzini> OerHeks: The second monitor is bigger
[15:53] <bottazzini> like the first on is my notebook
[15:53] <SchrodingersScat> Rubass: if you used something like tmux/screen
[15:53] <bottazzini> one*
[15:53] <SchrodingersScat> Rubass: otherwise you may want to start using tmux/screen
[15:54] <Rubass> SchrodingersScat: damn nope I did not. Will the installation just fail if I shutdown my mac?
[15:54] <bottazzini> It is weirdo, The pointer start looking something square. I try to click on the X but then I click on the Y
[15:54] <SchrodingersScat> Rubass: afaik ends the process
[15:54] <Rubass> SchrodingersScat: Cool thanks
[15:54] <Rubass> SchrodingersScat: I might need to look into tmux/screen
[15:55] <SchrodingersScat> Rubass: yep see which you like
[15:55] <Rubass> SchrodingersScat: I have used screen before, so I think I will get into it again :)
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> screen <3
[15:56] <OerHeks> bottazzini, is that nvidia 5400m an Optimus dual gpu with intel?
[15:56] <bottazzini> OerHeks: yes it is
[15:57] <bottazzini> OerHeks: Would this be the problem?
[15:57] <OerHeks> bottazzini, should work, so you see 'nvidia-prime' in systemsettings?
[15:58] <Rubass> SchrodingersScat: do you know if I kill my ssh session, will it continue from last?
[15:58] <Rubass> if I do the same command?
[15:58] <bottazzini> OerHeks: I can't see this options on system settings
[16:02] <bottazzini> OerHeks: oh I found here nvidia-prime but on Nvidia X Server Settings
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> Rubass: idk, depends on where it's at, if it's downloading that might be fine
[16:02] <OerHeks> bottazzini, oh oke, i thought it was seperate.
[16:03] <Rubass> Ok thanks SchrodingersScat, :) Have fun mate :)
[16:03] <bottazzini> OerHeks: I think I have an idea but I have to restart the PC.... i will try it
[16:09] <muted> any webcam software that can show the infrared feed from the camera?
[16:09] <bottazzini> OerHeks: didn't work.. i tried disabling Nvidia Optimus on BIOS
[16:10] <cfhowlett> muted, true IR?  no.  fake hot spot?  to a degree with a cheese special effect
[16:11] <muted> ok
[16:11] <muted> is the apps for cell phone cameras the same hot spot crap?
[16:11] <BluesKaj_> bottazzini, have you looked in to nvidia-prime? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[16:12] <cfhowlett> muted, if you need IR, best to get an actual camera with that capability.  phone cameras are cheap and low specification.
[16:12] <bottazzini> BluesKaj_: nice I will try it :)
[16:13] <muted> coolio ty
[16:14] <bottazzini> BluesKaj_: Everything is installed and running on my notebook like this site you showed me
[16:18] <Cybuss> is there a multi libgl.so.1
[16:21] <Cybuss> does anyone know how to solve  wrong elf class for libgl.so.1?
[16:21] <OerHeks> !find libgl.so
[16:22] <Cybuss> i do have libgl.so.1
[16:25] <Cybuss> is there a libgl.so.1 that is 32 bit and 64bit?
[16:27] <ungov> Hello, I installed KX studio on my system, and after I rebooted, i no longer have sound.
[16:27] <ungov> On Cadence, I see that the Jack server is started, and PulseAudio is started ad bridged to JACK. Any ideas?
[16:28] <pc_monk> hi
[16:29] <pc_monk> any body there????
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> ungov  you too:  #ubuntu-studio (or #ubuntustudio, i forget) is multimedia dedicated, better ask there
[16:30] <pc_monk> hello
[16:30] <pc_monk> اهلا
[16:30] <ungov> MonkeyDust: will do, thanks
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> pc_monk, just ask your question
[16:30] <pc_monk> where you from?
[16:31] <checkerboard> hi... how to "auto-login and connect to WIFI" on boot? I have a machine running as a home server. I can SSH into it, but only after I've manually logged in. If the server restarts ... I have to manually log in again to enable SSH access. Can this be changed?
[16:31] <dingus1> A
[16:31] <amcsi_work> hi
[16:31] <amcsi_work> how do I tell the AWS API to give me JSON responses?
[16:31] <cfhowlett> pc_monk, ask your UBUNTU support question ... see the channel topic if confused.
[16:31] <amcsi_work> using accept: application/json doesn't seem to work
[16:32] <pc_monk> ok thanks
[16:34] <amcsi_work> nvm, it was a lie
[16:34] <ssarah> guys, i have a distro with disabled auto updates, but i cant figure out why they are disabled.
[16:34] <ssarah> how do i go about it?
[16:35] <BluesKaj_> ssarah, pastebin the errors
[16:35] <ssarah> no errors. i just check apt history and i know the image has disabled auto updates.
[16:35] <allright> тут есть русские?
[16:36] <jhutchins> !ru
[16:36] <amcsi_work> the PHP SDK only supports XML error responses by default, right? I could use accept: application/json and use the response model definitions to look for the result in json properties, but default error checking will fail due to the response not being in XML, correct?
[16:37] <ssarah> there is a configured /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades but no /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[16:38] <SubCool> lil help. my SDcard refuses to format.
[16:39] <dingus1> pip
[16:40] <xperia> Hi is there a possibility to tell unity to restore the local created config files ? Guest access works perfect however when i login as user the gui is not showed. right click menu works however. how can i restore unity for my user account ?
[16:42] <bazhang> !info gnome-disk-utility | SubCool
[16:43] <Cybuss> anyone here have experience with symlinks and libgl.so.1?
[16:44] <SubCool> bazhang, ive been trying to use windows disk manager, but it fails somwhere after 60%
[16:44] <bazhang> SubCool, thats the ubuntu tool, no idea about windows tools
[16:45] <SubCool> k, ill give it a try. THanks!
[16:45] <andrcmdr> Does anyone know of a good online certification for Linux system administration?
[16:51] <OerHeks> andrcmdr, not really an ubuntu issue, but htere is LPIC https://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications
[16:53] <AndroUser> Hello
[16:54] <AndroUser> !ubottu
[16:57] <c31r2g> How can i see the list of users on andro irc
[16:57] <rexbutler> I set up virtual desktops.
[16:58] <rexbutler> Question: can I make it so virtual desktops only applies to one monitor, not both?
[16:58] <c31r2g> Yes
[16:58] <rexbutler> Right now I have 3 desktops of 2 screens each.
[16:58] <rexbutler> I want the virtual desktop to only switch the view on one monitor.
[16:59] <c31r2g> Ubuntu has a manager tweak for it
[16:59] <rexbutler> What's it called?
[17:00] <Bluewolf> Hi all, anyone know how I can set my Libre Office and Gimp to using the Adwaita Dark Theme as everything else. GnomishDark is the only other theme which does it yet I do not prefer it?
[17:02] <k1l> rexbutler: not possible wiht unity afaik. gnome3-shell handles it that way
[17:03] <rexbutler> My coworker has it set up like that, and I think he's running Unity
[17:04] <EriC^^> `
[17:04] <rexbutler> c31r2g: Is there a package I need to install?  You are not talking about Ubuntu Tweak Tool, are you?
[17:05] <c31r2g> Rexbutler i think you should read the info or man pages
[17:05] <c31r2g> Its there
[17:05] <c31r2g> Few lines to change
[17:05] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool
[17:11] <ihsw> so i'm trying to run sudo whatever, but it keeps asking for a password... of which there is none
[17:11] <Pici> ihsw: sudo asks for your password, assuming that you are in the proper group
[17:13] <bipul> !EasyEngine
[17:18] <mickkelodeon> is ubuntu using udl or udlfb?
[17:20] <Pici> mickkelodeon: both modules look to be available.
[17:20] <mickkelodeon> I only see uldfd in my sistem
[17:21] <mickkelodeon> *system, sorry
[17:21] <mickkelodeon> Pici: I'm having with an usb adapter and a hdmi screen
[17:22] <Pici> mickkelodeon: I see it on my 14.04 installs (server only though)
[17:22] <mickkelodeon> *having problems, xDDD sorry again
[17:22] <OerHeks> mickkelodeon, udl is a rewrite of the original udlfb driver
[17:22] <mickkelodeon> OerHeks: I know
[17:24] <mickkelodeon> any idea why I'm getting: " Unable to get valid EDID from device/display" from the usb device?
[17:24] <H> hi peps
[17:24] <Guest8003> i am trying to unstall open office
[17:25] <RansomTime> install or uninstall?
[17:25] <Guest8003> hello
[17:25] <Guest8003> unistall
[17:25] <Guest8003> i did install it
[17:25] <Guest8003> but i can remove ti
[17:25] <c31r2g> Yes
[17:25] <loa> can somebody explain me why such thing is happen? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2015.02.03-20%3A25%3A37.png
[17:26] <Guest8003> i tried to pruge it but it still did not unistall
[17:26] <c31r2g> Sudo apt-get remove open then keep pressing tab till you get the name
[17:26] <loa> why ubuntu tries to delete all that packages?
[17:26] <loa> i need them!
[17:26] <Guest8003> any help
[17:27] <Guest8003> with unistall open office
[17:27] <RansomTime> Guest8003: How did you try to uninstall it, via the package manager?
[17:27] <RansomTime> Did you get any error messages?
[17:27] <black_screen> hi
[17:28] <black_screen> I'm getting black scren but with mouse insted of login screen - what to do??
[17:28] <Guest8003> no ramsom
[17:28] <Guest8003> throught the terminal
[17:28] <RansomTime> with apt?
[17:28] <Guest8003> i does not show in the package manager
[17:29] <RansomTime> So you did sudo apt-get --purge remove openoffice.org
[17:29] <Guest8003> i think with a tar ball
[17:29] <Guest8003> i built it
[17:29] <Guest8003> i guess
[17:29] <RansomTime> oh, so you built open office and then want to remove it?
[17:29] <Ziber> Hey, so I want to set up an SSH tunnel, so I can rsync files between two servers that have firewall rules forbidding it, but can connect to a third server. I'm not too familiar with ssh tunnels, but I think that would solve my problem. Any thoughts?
[17:29] <Guest8003> yea
[17:30] <c31r2g> Loa maybe they are already updated
[17:30] <Guest8003> do you know to remove it
[17:30] <c31r2g> Loa they might be old versions
[17:30] <RansomTime> I think you just need to remove the directory you built it in then. I havn't ever built OO from souce
[17:30] <Guest8003> ok
[17:30] <loa> c31r2g, looks like no... they are just deleted.
[17:30] <Guest8003> thanks
[17:31] <Guest8003> ok ramsom i will be off
[17:31] <Guest8003> now thanks
[17:31] <c31r2g> Guest008003 well from termi al
[17:31] <rexbutler> c32r2g: So I should read the man pages for what?  The unity tweak tool?
[17:31] <c31r2g> Vlackscreen use alt+f2 and fire xstartx
[17:31] <Guest8003> how c31
[17:31] <Guest8003> what command
[17:31] <loa> c31r2g, if i just try to update system, nothing happens, problems with zlib1g-dev:i386
[17:31] <c31r2g> It will be solved black-screen
[17:32] <Guest8003> i tried the purge
[17:32] <Guest8003> i did not uupdate the system
[17:35] <black_screen> someone can heeelp me??
[17:35] <black_screen> I'm getting black scren but with mouse insted of login screen - what to do??
[17:36] <boodllebat_> I have never hosted my any application on VPS , but this time i have to do it i am bit worried cause i dont know anything about security i there any toolkit which AUTOMATES the security procedure for Linux ( Ubuntu ) ?
[17:36] <akae> hi, I'm having a problem with ubuntu-server 14, which does not mount at start a sdb1 SSD disk even if it is configured in fstab, but mounts perfectly when I run mount -a
[17:38] <boodllebat> I have never hosted my any application on VPS , but this time i have to do it i am bit worried cause i dont know anything about security i there any toolkit which AUTOMATES the security procedure for Linux ( Ubuntu ) ?
[17:39] <chui> hi good morning
[17:40] <akae> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Server help?
[17:40] <jatt> #ubuntu-server
[17:41] <fanno> hi everyone, i am not sure of this is a ubuntu question or if it is a generic linux problem ... i am trying to play dota 2 and i had this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1382462 that i "fixed" using the CCMS. Now the problem i have is that dota seems to always pick the build in monitor to run on .. even my bigger monitor is set to primary in ~/.config/monitors.xml
[17:41] <fanno> so i guess my question is is there something else i need to do ?. if i chose to run in frameless window the it show on the correct monitor.. but it is not full scrren (oviously..) top menu is there and the window is UNDER the lancher on the left side .. if i try to turn off the lancher on the external monitor i CANT no matter if i chose all monitors or if i chose one or ther other the lancher is always displayed on the external monitor.
[17:41] <chui> just had a quick question,i ha probook 6565b and was wondering whether it would work
[17:43] <bottazzini> fanno: Do you use NVIDIA ? If yes, your second monitor is on the right side ? If yes, go to displays and put it on the left side
[17:43] <bottazzini> fanno: i had this bug and could fix like this, weirdo... right?
[17:44] <fanno> bottazzini: yes it is on the right site.. the problem is that if i do put it on the left.. then it dont mirror the real life setup
[17:44] <bottazzini> fanno: I know :(
[17:45] <bottazzini> fanno: but... try to see if your problem will be solved
[17:45] <jhutchins> fanno: BTW problems like that happen in windows too.
[17:45] <bottazzini> If yes, you have the same problem I had
[17:45] <dym> Hey! Does anyone know of a piece of server software that would let someone livestream media to said server (via some sort of client) to be consumed by other users via VLC?
[17:45] <fanno> bottazzini: i have already ried that and yes it fix it.
[17:46] <bottazzini> fanno: So I got a good and a bad news to you
[17:46] <fanno> dota 2 will only put monitor in in the monitor that are a 0,0
[17:47] <bottazzini> fanno: the good news is that you will be able to play Dota if you do this. The bad news, i tried really hard to fix this and I got my ubuntu crashed and had to format
[17:47] <bottazzini> fanno: I will give you some tips that you should NEVER try to see if it will work out ok ?
[17:48] <Ahmuck> is there a way to place an icon of the cdrom on the desktop?  my cdrom button does not work well and i would like to use the icon to eject the tray so i can load a cd
[17:48] <fanno> jhutchins: yes that is true but on windows i can set external as primery screen and there i did not get the error
[17:48] <bottazzini> fanno:  Because if you google it .. people will say.. it works.. but it just fuks up the system
[17:49] <black_screen> hi
[17:49] <bottazzini> fanno: never try bumblebee and never ever ever ever try to use the open source Nouveau. Even you see people saying that the system got faster...
[17:49] <rasta> is there anyway i can have two completely different websites with separate databases on my ubuntu local wordpress installation?
[17:49] <jhutchins> Ahmuck: xfce or gnome?
[17:49] <bottazzini> fanno: you won't be able to rollback the system and in the end you will have to format it :(
[17:49] <black_screen> someone can help me?? please?
[17:50] <bottazzini> fanno: if you find the solution would you please tell me? :)
[17:50] <battacucuse> hi
[17:50] <pybe> rasta: yes
[17:51] <rasta> pybe: how?
[17:51] <teward> is it possible/sane to format a USB drive with a gpt partition table instead of mbr/msdos?
[17:51] <pybe> rasta: setup 2 and use different databases
[17:52] <rasta> how, i dont know how to set up a multisite network
[17:52] <fanno> bottazzini: yes i know, but i was able to fix it when i did try bumblebee (fix meaning revert the damage), as far as i know the problem is in ubuntu some where
[17:52] <pybe> not a multisite anything
[17:53] <pybe> rasta: did you setup your current site
[17:53] <bottazzini> fanno: nice, maybe because I tried noveau first and then bumblebee afterwards, Noveau fucks up everyting you won't be able to reinstall nvidia driver....
[17:53] <rasta> yes, i have one site setup. now i want a completely diff site on the same installation
[17:53] <fanno> bottazzini: can i place a screen ag 1920x1200+-1920+0 ??? so that the 0,0 is still on the right
[17:53] <Agent_Smith_BR> What's the best way to update libc6 due GHOST in my Ubuntu (10|12).04 LTS without upgrade the system?
[17:53] <bottazzini> fanno: it is a long shot, but if works tell me :)
[17:54] <pybe> rasta: do it again in another folder with another database
[17:54] <fanno> bottazzini: well i tried it but is ther another way to put monitor on the left ? or os 0,0 always far left screen ?
[17:55] <black_screen> it's not a good day for help?
[17:55] <black_screen> it's not a good day for help?
[17:55] <teward> black_screen: patience
[17:55] <rasta> pybe: how do you set up a multisite network on wordpress in ubuntu?
[17:55] <bottazzini> fanno: as far as I know, it is always 0,0
[17:55] <teward> black_screen: if you don't ask a real question we can't help you
[17:55] <teward> !ask | black_screen
[17:55] <chui> hullo mateys
[17:55] <black_screen> I've ask it over 5 times..
[17:55] <pybe> rasta: not a multisite network, just 2 websites
[17:55] <black_screen> teward: ^
[17:55] <black_screen> teward: I'm getting black scren but with mouse insted of login screen
[17:56] <jhutchins> black_screen: What did you do before this started to happen?
[17:56] <rasta> pybe: I am planning to add more sites later.
[17:56] <pybe> rasta: add as many as you like
[17:56] <black_screen> nothing.
[17:56] <rasta> pybe: which folder are you talking about?
[17:56] <teward> black_screen: you didn't do any updates?
[17:56] <black_screen> is was a textual install. and than i deside to install mate
[17:56] <chui> how are HP Probooks on Ubuntu?
[17:56] <black_screen> idid the apt-get..
[17:57] <jhutchins> rasta: Why are you asking about this in both #ubuntu and #debian?
[17:57] <pybe> rasta: where ever your apache it pointed to
[17:57] <black_screen> i also instaled lightdm
[17:57] <black_screen> and than i get the black screen with the mouse pointer.
[17:57] <jhutchins> black_screen: Is lightdm running?
[17:57] <black_screen> yes
[17:57] <pybe> rasta: normally /var/www
[17:58] <rasta> jhutchinns: please give me a link to the wordpress docs
[17:58] <black_screen> jhutchins: if i stop it the black screen gone,
[17:58] <rasta> pybe: so you are saying I make another /www?
[17:58] <jhutchins> black_screen: I would check to see if aptitude -f install picks up any missing dependencies, then possibly dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:58] <pybe> rasta: /var/www/mysite1 with mysite1db and /var/www/mysite2 with mysite2db
[17:59] <pybe> rasta: and do as many setups as you like or have disc space/bandwith for
[17:59] <Agent_Smith_BR> What's the best way to update libc6 due GHOST in my Ubuntu (10|12).04 LTS without upgrade the system?
[17:59] <jhutchins> rasta: You should be able to figure this out, but https://codex.wordpress.org/Main_Page
[17:59] <black_screen> jhutchins: so to type "aptitude -f install"
[17:59] <teward> Agent_Smith_BR: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:59] <rasta> pybe: with the folder hierachy in /www I dont know if that is possible
[17:59] <teward> Agent_Smith_BR: that won't update your Ubuntu version but it will install the standard security / software updates
[18:00] <pybe> rasta: you shouldnt be setting up wordpress sites from the sound of it
[18:00] <rasta> pybe: and will i be able to switch different sites from dashboard?
[18:00] <battacucuse> anyone here use guacamole
[18:00] <teward> rasta: it sounds like you don't understand what exactly is going on.
[18:00] <jhutchins> rasta: http://mashable.com/2012/07/26/beginner-guide-wordpress-multisite/ http://www.wpbeginner.com/wp-tutorials/how-to-install-and-setup-wordpress-multisite-network/ http://codex.wordpress.org/Create_A_Network
[18:01] <rasta> Jhutchins: thanks
[18:02] <rasta> teward: you're right, i dont
[18:04] <rasta> Another question. Only default permalinks work on my local WP installation. If i try to change them to /postname, I get 404, how can i fix this?
[18:06] <fanno> bottazzini: window mode with no border works too. but the ubuntu launch bar over lap the window and so do the top menu bar ==/
[18:06] <bottazzini> :(
[18:07] <pybe> rasta: by reading in depth all the links jhutchins gave you
[18:07] <petrol> Any lihi
[18:07] <petrol> HI*
[18:08] <petrol> I am unable to change my brighntess after an upgrade
[18:08] <bottazzini> fanno: unfortunately this is one big bug that would make me stop using Ubuntu. My friends who uses others distro works quite well. But I do love ubuntu I don't know exactly what to do primarily
[18:08] <petrol> I went through all the available posts
[18:08] <petrol> still no use
[18:08] <rasta> pybe: fuk off
[18:08] <pybe> rasta: love you too x
[18:09] <petrol> Can somebody help?
[18:09] <fanno> bottazzini: and when launch bar over lap, you cant click menu options on the left =P
[18:09] <pybe> petrol: upgrade from what to what on what?
[18:10] <bottazzini> ahahahaha this is so fucked up
[18:10] <fanno> bottazzini: indeed
[18:10] <petrol> pybe am currently on 12.04
[18:11] <pybe> petrol: what did you upgrade from and what are you running it on?
[18:11] <petrol> Updated using update manager
[18:11] <petrol> Am not running on VM
[18:11] <fanno> bottazzini: also i notise if i try to make teh lancher only show on the left screen it turn off on the left and show on the right ... if chose show on the right it show on the right ...
[18:12] <fanno> bottazzini: but yes, i am looking if i should switch or not .. issue is i just start using linux and i have no idea how to switch ,.. and i jsut got everything else working
[18:12] <pybe> petrol: what hardware
[18:13] <hdon_> hi all :) i am not using my display's native orientation, how can i alter or disable subpixel font smoothing? as a computer programmer trying to maximize the amount of text i can fit on the screen, i find it difficult to make out small details with the current smoothing settings, which are assuming a left-to-right BGR pixel!
[18:13] <bottazzini> fanno: hahahaha.. you know, i have used ubuntu since version 4.04. When they decided to use Unity instead of Gnome 3, things got a little buggy. So we have to wait until they fix everything up and/or help them... this is the magic of open source project right?
[18:14] <petrol> sony vaio vpceb36fa amd radeon card
[18:15] <fanno> bottazzini: just bother me that they have not even assigned the bug report. even tho it is high priority
[18:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> teward: sorry... I didn't check the changelog so when I saw libc6 (2.11.1-0ubuntu7.20) I thought that I'd have to upgrade to 14.04
[18:15] <hdon_> bottazzini: i just apt-get install gnome
[18:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> teward: my bad
[18:15] <bottazzini> fanno: indeed...
[18:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> teward: thanks
[18:16] <fanno> hdon: i tried that it's not working ether.. (atleast not last i tried)
[18:16] <bottazzini> hdon_: i did this.. but the core still runs on unity, unfortunately...
[18:16] <hdon_> fanno: :(
[18:16] <hdon_> fanno: maybe your problem is not unity?
[18:16] <hdon_> fanno: what are you symptoms?
[18:16] <fanno> hdon but i am a noob at linux so i could have missed something
[18:16] <fanno> hdon excactly the same as the bug report as far as i can understand
[18:17] <bottazzini> fanno: hdon_ : What I think it is.  It is Nvidia Driver + Unity bug... if you install it in Gnome or even KDE ... it will run smoothly...
[18:17] <fanno> bottazzini: i must have done something wrong with gnome then
[18:18] <andrcmdr> Thanks OerHeks
[18:22] <bottazzini> fanno: maybe
[18:23] <fanno> bottazzini: i'll try again logging out to try and change be back later i guess
[18:23] <Agent_Smith_BR> teward: is there a way to update only one package and their deps?
[18:24] <pybe> petrol: is it too bright or too dark
[18:24] <petrol> too bright pybe
[18:24] <petrol> full brightness
[18:25] <pybe> petrol: looks like a few things you can try here http://ubuntu.aspcode.net/view/635400140124705175248198/unable-to-change-brightness-settings-in-sony-vaio-e-series-laptop
[18:25] <fanno> bottazzini: in gnome now will test again
[18:26] <bottazzini> fanno: I think it won't work because the core still runs on unity... it just some cover up makeup to looks like gnome
[18:26] <fanno> bottazzini: hmm in deed it is working now. odd, must have been something i changed.
[18:27] <fanno> it must be the changes i made to compiz
[18:27] <stan_man_can> I can SSH to a server but if I try to scp a file from it to my local machine it times out
[18:27] <stan_man_can> any ideads?
[18:27] <bottazzini> fanno: really ? =D
[18:27] <bottazzini> nice
[18:27] <fanno> bottazzini: unless compiz changes do not carry over to gnome
[18:27] <stan_man_can> ideas*
[18:27] <bottazzini> fanno: you just installed gnome and worked ?
[18:28] <fanno> bottazzini: no i still had gnome installed
[18:28] <bottazzini> alright
[18:28] <fanno> bottazzini: never "removed" it i just toled to to login to that
[18:28] <fanno> bottazzini:  but oviouslt i ahve not changed the fegault
[18:29] <skypce> hello all
[18:29] <fanno> you saw the changes i am talking about right?
[18:29] <fanno> for compiz ?
[18:29] <skypce> do you know some way to display screen in black and white (greyscale)
[18:29] <Ahmuck> jhutchins, sorry, did not see ur reply.  it wouldn't matter, xcfe or gnome, something that worked
[18:29] <bottazzini> fanno: what changes?
[18:30] <natus> I'm on xubuntu and I hate pavucontrol. One day I tested the volume controler in ubuntu 14.xx and it was very good for me, how to install it? What is the packages name? I tried gnome-alsamixer but not what I want.
[18:32] <guest-kRujS1> yo. how do i create my own channel for private use?
[18:33] <fanno> bottazzini:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1382462 post #23 and forward ... hmm it looks like the screen show i added has been removed... aparently they think the error i have is another sinse i do not use the same computer as the ccreator ..
[18:33] <petrol> pybe,  I gt this bash: /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness: Permission denied
[18:33] <natus> I want this one : http://180016988.r.cdn77.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Sound_011.png on xubuntu is it possible and how?
[18:33] <pybe> petrol: I think you will need to sudo
[18:33] <fanno> bottazzini:  but not sure if you had that error as well, but thats the only other changes i have made
[18:33] <petrol> I am root pybe
[18:34] <petrol> root@BoX:~# echo 4 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[18:34] <petrol> bash: /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness: Permission denied
[18:34] <fanno> bottazzini: well ... now in gnome i can't full screen the windoes in the left window ...
[18:34] <fanno> bottazzini: !"¤!"%!#%& from one to the next =P
[18:34] <lfrlucas> Is it possible to remove packages installed by apt-get build-dep policykit-1 ?
[18:35] <pybe> petrol: is there a command in front of the file path or are you trying to execute it?
[18:36] <petrol> pybe, didnt get you
[18:36] <pybe> petrol: what are you trying to do to the file?
[18:36] <petrol> input the value 4
[18:39] <pybe> petrol: how? editing it or echoing it?
[18:39] <petrol> echoing it
[18:40] <rictoo> gerraffes are dumb
[18:41] <rictoo> stupid long horses
[18:41] <petrol> pybe,  I am unable to change the file...even though I chagned the permission I cant edit the file
[18:41] <rasta> how do i use pretty permalinks on wordpress?
[18:41] <Pici> rasta: Thats probably a better question for #wordpress
[18:41] <pybe> rasta: ask in a wordpress room
[18:43] <bottazzini> fanno: sad :(
[18:45] <pybe> petrol: try /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:46] <versatiletech> looking at /var/log/auth.log I want to see successful sshd logins via a password. What token should I be searching for? "Accepted"?
[18:47] <Pici> 70
[18:48] <petrol> pybe no such file
[18:48] <petrol> its sony
[18:50] <pybe> petrol: which ever yours has then but not MAX brightness
[18:50] <rasta> petrol: pybe doesnt know much, be careful
[18:50] <EriC^^> pybe: what's up?
[18:50] <EriC^^> or petrol i guess
[18:50] <petrol> Anyways I cant seem to change anything now
[18:50] <pybe> rasta: xxx
[18:50] <EriC^^> you're changing the brightness?
[18:51] <petrol> Trying
[18:51] <EriC^^> did you try xbacklight?
[18:51] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to view the number of each process there is?
[18:51] <EriC^^> cuddylier: what do you mean? the pid? or how many threads it has?
[18:52] <cuddylier> E.g. if I have the cron process, I want to see the number of currently active cron processes
[18:52] <cuddylier> But I want to see a number of each of all of them
[18:52] <cuddylier> As I have over 400 processes running for no reason making my load 50+
[18:52] <cuddylier> Compared to the normal 3-5 with 250 processes
[18:52] <petrol> EriC^^,  its not working either
[18:52] <cuddylier> So there is 150 or so processes I didn't intensionally execute running and I need to find out what they are and how many.
[18:53] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone can help me with why this interface is not able to be brought up with ifup wan0 or wan1 https://bpaste.net/show/9991928db9c3?
[18:54] <EriC^^> cuddylier: cron processes show up in /var/log/syslog
[18:54] <cuddylier> EriC^^ That was just an example
[18:54] <cuddylier> I need to see all
[18:54] <EriC^^> CRON [PID here]
[18:54] <pybe> cuddylier: you need to see running processes?
[18:54] <cuddylier> Yes
[18:55] <pybe> I like ps waux which you can then grep or just top
[18:56] <EriC^^> petrol: try echo 1000 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:56] <buddd> how do you open a a text doc (.py) from the terminal, in the editor ofyour choose? so I don't have to dbl click it in the director
[18:56] <NegativeFlare> buddd: gedit <filename>
[18:56] <NegativeFlare> or even nano if you want
[18:57] <buddd> sublime son
[18:58] <buddd> how do you toggle between windows
[18:58] <buddd> without using the mouse
[18:58] <EriC^^> alt+tab ?
[18:58] <milamber> buddd: alt + tab
[18:58] <buddd> ctrl something
[18:58] <buddd> man ubuntu rules
[18:59] <buddd> is that what most people use?
[18:59] <k1l> buddd: keep the windows button pressed to see the shortcuts for ubuntu
[18:59] <milamber> buddd: asking the #ubuntu channel if ubuntu is what people use is kind of a loaded question. also this channel is reserved for tech support
[19:00] <buddd> milamber: you're reading comprehension is selective
[19:00] <EriC^^> buddd: there's also alt+~ , if you have multiple windows of the same type you can switch between those after you alt + tab
[19:00] <EriC^^> buddd: alt + tab combined with that will render you god like, enjoy
[19:01] <buddd> eric^^: I can feel the force, thanks
[19:01] <EriC^^> np
[19:07] <chui> can anyone help me
[19:08] <h00k> chui: go ahead and ask your question
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> chui  let's hear it
[19:08] <h00k> chui: if someone knows, they'll reply with help
[19:08] <petrol> Eric^^ no use
[19:08] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[19:08] <EriC^^> petrol: what's it say when you do that?
[19:08] <chui> cool was thinking of installing ubuntu on a HP probook 6565b
[19:09] <mitt> chui and so?
[19:09] <chui> dont know if its supported
[19:09] <mitt> chui depends on yer particular hardware, make is not enough
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> chui  try it with a live usb stick
[19:10] <mitt> chui but Ubuntu now supports almost everything
[19:10] <chui> oh ok let me get the specs
[19:11] <petrol> echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[19:11] <petrol> 1
[19:11] <petrol> EriC^^,
[19:11] <EriC^^> petrol: did you try the intel one?
[19:12] <chui> AMD Quad-Core A6-3410MX with AMD Radeon HD 6520G Graphics
[19:12] <EriC^^> petrol: try echo 1000 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[19:12] <OerHeks> http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-probook-6565b-15-6-a-series-a6-3410mx-windows-7-pro-64-bit-4-gb-ram-500-gb-hdd-series/specs/ sounds fine, maybe wireless N is en issue, AMD Radeon HD 6520G looks oke.
[19:13] <chui> cool @OerHeks
[19:13] <petrol> Eric^^ I do not have an intel folder
[19:15] <chui> its an extrad notebbok that has win 7 wanted to try Ubuntu on it..havent tried since version 8
 thanks
[19:17] <OerHeks> chui have fun!
 would it matter if it is NTFS or FAT32 usb stick
[19:19] <Giwrgaras> hi anyone has the same problem with terminal? when a line is too long instead of continuing to the line below it starts again from the left overshadowing the current text!
[19:19] <EiriksHDD> hello #ubuntu I recently installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my sons laptop, but I know he uses chromiums incognito mode, is there a way to log his web activity still?
[19:20] <OerHeks> chui, the iso can only work on fat32
[19:21] <genii> EiriksHDD: Probably not unless you start using some transparent proxy and studying it's logs
[19:22] <onrul> EiriksHDD you could use a DNS relay pretty easily.
[19:22] <ipl31> Folks seeing an odd issue on a 12.04 based system where an arp cache entry for a down host never expires
[19:22] <onrul> Try opendns.com
[19:22] <EiriksHDD> I was thinking on using a keylogger, but that won't show links he clicked will it?
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> onrul  mind: "easy" depends on how technically skilled you are
[19:23] <ipl31> flushing the arp cache works
[19:23] <ipl31> but is manual
[19:23] <doctari> EiriksHDD, is he a child? , Are you paying for his internet. If so insist that you see his logs on demand or you cut off/take away his internet
[19:23] <Ahmuck> EiriksHDD, educate him
[19:24] <EiriksHDD> doctari, he is 15, where there is a will, there is a way, I just want to be able to make sure he isn't watching crazy stuff
[19:25] <doctari> I have all of my kids passwords and I log everything, why> because I am paying for it and they live in my house
[19:26] <doctari> EiriksHDD, I am sure he is a good kid but if he does something that is going to harm him or anyone else in your family you will regret worrying about his feelings
[19:27] <EiriksHDD> I have his passwords and all that, I just want to make sure that even when he uses incognito chromium, he isn't going nuts
[19:27] <onrul> EiriksHDD, opendns would catch all URL requests, even while in incognito.
[19:27] <ubunzerk> hi, got issues to install amd r9 2xx driver, any help?
 thank you
[19:28] <doctari> EiriksHDD, tousands of young people go missing every year because they got involved with someone that the parents didn't know about
[19:28] <EiriksHDD> onrul, thank you, I'll look into it
[19:28] <ConnerAB> Hello!
[19:29] <ConnerAB> test
[19:29] <EiriksHDD> doctari, he is a good kid, I just want to be able to keep an eye on what he is doing, better safe than sorry
[19:29] <doctari> When I was doing in-home IT support I would find all kinds of things on kids PC's that the parents didn;t know anything about
[19:29] <Andre_Jesus>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Andre_Jesus tsbruposjqmr
[19:30] <ConnerAB> weird. Anyways, I'm trying to run Space Engineers through Wine, and I'm having difficulties. I'm very new to Linux as a whole. I was able to install Wine through Steam and then installed Space Engineers through the Wine Steam installation, but I can't get it to launch.
[19:30] <OerHeks> time to change password, Andre_Jesus
[19:30] <bprompt> eheheh
[19:30] <Andre_Jesus> :P
[19:30] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[19:30] <doctari> most experts recommend that the kids be required to use their computer in a public area of the house to make it harder for them to do things they shouldn't
[19:31] <ConnerAB> Oh wait a second, something different just happened this time.
[19:31] <BluesKaj_> Andre_Jesus, yup, do that command in the server textbox
[19:31] <doctari> Andre_Jesus, change your password too
[19:32] <doctari> EiriksHDD, you could also install something like vnc on his laptop that would let you see what was on his screen
[19:32] <ConnerAB> It sits on "Installing Microsoft .NET framework 4.0.cmd (step 1 of 1) for a while, then closes and doesn't do anything else./
[19:33] <ConnerAB> Okay, thsi time it just opened the thing saying that it was unable to sync my files and let me click the "play game" button, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything after this point. This is the first time in the several times I've tried to run it that it's reached that point.
[19:34] <ConnerAB> Is anybody able to help me with installing Space Engineers through Wine?
[19:41] <BluesKaj_> ConnerAB, try the #winehq chatroom
[19:42] <ConnerAB> BluesKaj_: thank you
[19:42] <jhutchins> ConnerAB: It seems like this is less of an Ubuntu issue than a Steam/Wine issue.  Steam support might be able to help.
[19:47] <Nedal> Hi , I can't run th cisco ccna exploration course on Ubuntu LTS 14.04 !
[19:47] <jhutchins> Nedal: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:50] <Nedal> jhutchins, I installed the cisco CCNA exploration from the website via wine, when I open the documentation downloaded locally, I cant open any chapter ... it s not working .
[19:51] <wrx> hello all
[19:53] <Nedal> jhutchins,  and it s not a flash issue, i ve added the path to the local site on the flash player settings
[19:53] <wrx> hello
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Nedal  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1509540
[19:54] <Nedal> MonkeyDust, I ve tried this ...
[19:54] <wrx> hei
[19:54] <Nedal> it s not working
[19:54] <wrx> need help
[19:54] <wrx> need help
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> Nedal  then maybe the people in #wine can help better
[19:56] <k1l> !ask | wrx
[19:56] <wrx> thx
[19:56] <wrx> privat chat
[19:56] <wrx> ??
[19:56] <Nedal> MonkeyDust,  But it can be run without wine ... It s a html extension, a flash documentation
[19:57] <k1l> wrx: if you got a tehcnical ubuntu question ask it here.
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> Nedal  then why do you wine?
[19:58] <Nedal> I ve tried without it , and it didn t work. So I though that it might be a compatible windows  only ... that s why
[20:00] <cameron_> Hello
[20:02] <curvv> what are the mirrors in AD.txt on mirrors.ubuntu.com? - http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/AD.txt
[20:02] <curvv> the file names are country codes...
[20:03] <curvv> so this is Andorra? lol
[20:03] <wrx> I recovered the contents of a partition(photorec) and now I only care about the pictures. but
[20:04] <Nedal> jhutchins, any idea ?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> wrx: Your message was cut off at "but".
 I recovered the contents of a partition(photorec) and now I only care about the pictures  and ubuntu crushes
[20:06] <jimmy__> Heeeey! I'm from Brazil and i need to pratice another language... who?
[20:06] <EriC^^> wrx: did you copy the pictures to another hdd?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> jimmy__: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:06] <agliodbs> it seems that "print to PDF" on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop cuts off at some number of bytes (1-5 pages) unless you first format the output for a specific printer.  What's up with that?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> jimmy__  not here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:06] <wrx> ho
[20:06] <jimmy__> ty!
[20:06] <wrx> no that is what i try to do
[20:06] <wrx> but crushes
[20:06] <EriC^^> wrx: boot a live usb and do it
[20:08] <wrx> what distro? ubuntu / mint <>???
[20:08] <EriC^^> doesn't matter, use ubuntu though
[20:09] <wrx> thx EriC
[20:09] <EriC^^> np
[20:10] <eridani> Hello
[20:10] <wrx> hello
[20:10] <eridani> I have this problem
[20:11] <eridani> The problem is, I can't locate the image for the decryption at bootup,  I want to personalise it, any recommendations?
[20:12] <eridani> Anyone?
[20:12] <nedal_> Hi, I can't run the Cisco CCNA exploration course on Ubuntu LTS 14.04. Could any one help ?
[20:13] <Jordan_U> eridani: I don't understand what image you're reffering to. Could you try to describe more what that image is, and how/why you want to change it?
[20:14] <eridani> Well when you encrypt your hard drive when installing ubuntu it asks for a passphrase
[20:14] <eridani> when you boot up next time
[20:14] <eridani> it asks for the passphrase to decrypt
[20:14] <eridani> I want to change that background.
[20:14] <eridani> Any idea how?
[20:14] <jhutchins> nedal_: You forgot the "How did you try to do it" and "What happens instead" parts.
[20:17] <eridani> And?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> eridani: You probably want to change your plymouth theme then.
[20:18] <nedal_> jhutchins, I ve installed the Cisco CCNA documentation from their website, but when I open the documentation ( witch is a flash documentation with an .html extension) it doesn t work, I can't open any chapter
[20:18] <eridani> Where can i do that?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> !plymouth | eridani
[20:20] <jhutchins> nedal_: ibid.
[20:21] <eridani> Thank you
[20:21] <Jordan_U> eridani: "apt-cache search plymouth-theme" will list packages providing other plymouth themes, or "apt-cache show 'plymouth-theme-*' | less" will let you view the details of all of those packages.
[20:24] <louipc> does ubuntu use systemd yet? i read that it will
[20:25] <Jordan_U> louipc: No.
[20:25] <bottazzini> louipc: I head that we will be able to use it on 16.04 but i am not sure
[20:25] <bottazzini> heard*
[20:25] <croberts> does anyone have a ppa setup with just a single package in it
[20:25] <croberts> I want to test something
[20:26] <destiny> Hello :)
[20:26] <croberts> with rhel
[20:26] <louipc> thanks
[20:26] <bottazzini> louipc: but it looks like 15,10 will have support to install it if you want via apt-get
[20:27] <louipc> well, doesn't matter for me really just don't wanna tell someone the wrong command to start/stop a service, etc
[20:27] <nedal_> jhutchins, well .. this is what happening !
[20:29] <croberts> does anyone have a small ppa that i can use to test something with
[20:30] <azizLIGHT> why is every update "This update does not come from a source that supports changelogs."
[20:31] <azizLIGHT> useless...
[20:32] <Giwrgaras> hi anyone has the same problem with terminal? when a line is too long instead of continuing to the line below it starts again from the left overshadowing the current text!
[20:32] <Jordan_U> azizLIGHT: All of the official repositories support changelogs. If you're getting that message for packages from the official repositories then something is configured incorrectly/broken on your end.
[20:32] <jonnyro> When I attempt to use ssh dynamic port forwarding using ssh -D <port> <host>, local apps that attempt to connect to the proxy do not function correctly. The pages requested never return
[20:33] <jonnyro> Any tips on further debugging?
[20:33] <azizLIGHT> why dont unoffical ones put their changelogs in there too
[20:34] <Jordan_U> azizLIGHT: I don't know the details of how changelogs are supported.
[20:34] <azizLIGHT> hmmm oh well
[20:38] <trsohmers> Greetings
[20:40] <trsohmers> Having a startup problem that I have been searching for a solution for extensively... is this a place to find help?
[20:40] <jokx> Greetings, with ubuntu 14.10 on gnome3 (+ ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3) I was unable to add a PPTP VPN connexion in the gnome-control-center. I've installed the network-manager-pptp* package but the control center didn't display the PPTP option when I try to add a VPN ... someone know what happen ?
[20:40] <genius> ciao a tutti
[20:41] <trsohmers> Problem 1: On bootup, Unity does not start (My desktop shows but the dash menu and launchpad is not there... I can move my mouse, right click, open windows, but nothing else)
[20:42] <trsohmers> Problem 2: When I go to tty1 (or any others for that matter), I get endless error message related to usb device
[20:42] <trsohmers> I can login, but it is difficult to use due to an endless flood of error messages
[20:42] <Jordan_U> jokx: Is the network manager settings panel that you're getting from gnome-control-center the same as from running "nm-connection-editor"?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[20:43] <trsohmers> any good way to do that from TTY?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: dmesg | pastebinit
[20:45] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10041098/
[20:45] <trsohmers> seems to only go back to 80 seconds
[20:45] <trsohmers> But that message is endlessly repeating in TTY
[20:46] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: sudo dmesg -n 1 # Though that's just a work around, we really need to figure out how to stop the errors from happening at all.
[20:47] <trsohmers> it just stopped
[20:47] <trsohmers> hmmm
[20:47] <trsohmers> still seems to be going on in the background
[20:47] <trsohmers> it is no longer going to TTY
[20:47] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: Exactly, that's why I said it was just a work around.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: Check the cables on anything you have connected via USB, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21636174/device-not-responding-to-set-address reports this error occuring due to a bad cable.
[20:48] <trsohmers> I already tried booting it with another keyboard that I know works
[20:48] <trsohmers> and that is the only USB device plugged in
[20:49] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: Please pastebin the output of "lsusb"
[20:50] <trsohmers> Accidently just rebooted the machine... one moment
[20:52] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: It hangs when I type lsusb... I try to (CTRL+C) it, but nothing happens
[20:52] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: I can open a new TTY window, and it works though
[20:52] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: just tried lsusb -v as well
[20:52] <jokx> Jordan_U: thanks for interest, how to know with network manager settings panel is running ?
[20:54] <jokx> Jordan_U: Oh, but with nm-connection-editor I was able to create a PPTP configuration !
[20:55] <Es0teric> quick question about using wget.. i want to use wget to get a file from google drive
[20:55] <Es0teric> has anyone done that yet?
[20:55] <gagarin> exit
[20:57] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: Any ideas?
[20:59] <dunnowiam> any one has a good tutorial how to debug ubuntu start?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: I suspect that there is a hardware problem, though I'm not sure how to confirm that.
[20:59] <jokx> Jordan_U: thank you ! With nm-connection-editor I created my config and now Gnome3 show me it !
[20:59] <Jordan_U> jokx: You're welcome :)
[21:00] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: OK, well now that I can at least use the terminal, do you know how to get unity to start properly?
[21:01] <trsohmers> At startup it goes to the desktop, but only shows the desktop... no dash or anything else
[21:01] <dunnowiam> ya uing terminal is awsome :)
[21:01] <trsohmers> I already tried ccsm, and enabled unity desktop, but it doesn't seem to help
[21:01] <dunnowiam> i remember the days where i got a terminal if needed
[21:02] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: No, I don't use Unity myself, but if the two problems started at the same time (rather than you only noticing the USB problem when you tried to use a tty due to the Unity problem) they may be related. Can you try booting an Ubuntu liveDVD/USB and see if you have the same USB (or Unity) problems?
[21:02] <Jordan_U> dunnowiam: What problem are you having specifically?
[21:03] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: Yea I'll try that. It's a new install, and the problems started (or at least I noticed the USB problem) the first time I rebooted
[21:03] <dunnowiam> apt-get upgrade reboot unity dont starts any more only offers one box for reporting a error
[21:03] <EriC^^> trsohmers: did you try logging in using the guest account?
[21:03] <trsohmers> EriC^^: No
[21:03] <dunnowiam> when i try to do strg + f7 i get no console
[21:03] <EriC^^> trsohmers: give it a shot
[21:03] <dunnowiam> dont know why
[21:04] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: I just noticed the tty's where I launched lsusb are no longer hung... I run lsusb again and it works
[21:04] <dunnowiam> maybe my graphic card is to new but now i cant do anything
[21:04] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: Please pastebin its output.
[21:04] <rocketeerbkw> I'm on 14.10, how do I change the date? When I go to Time & Date settings it always reverts back and never keeps my changes
[21:05] <trsohmers> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10041355/
[21:05] <rictoo> guys i have a question, i dont know why gerrafes are dumb stupid long horses
[21:06] <dunnowiam> does any one know if there is a systemd boot hotkey or else?
[21:06] <dunnowiam> so i can get a terminal without booting external and modify grub entrys?
[21:07] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: The dmesg errors stopped... at the bottom of it it seems to see that it detected a new USB device
[21:07] <Jordan_U> dunnowiam: Ubuntu doesn't use systemd yet. You can select recovery mode at the grub menu (if the grub menu is hidden at boot, hold shift if it's a BIOS based system or press escape repeatedly during boot if it's a UEFI based system).
[21:08] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: Interesting. What is that new device?
[21:08] <dunnowiam> ah ok
[21:08] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: Here is the new pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10041372
[21:08] <dunnowiam> i understand
[21:08] <dunnowiam> tought it uses it because i used it
[21:08] <dunnowiam> was my fail probally
[21:09] <dunnowiam> so its time to say good bye to ubuntu for me right?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> dunnowiam: I don't know what you mean by your last question.
[21:10] <dunnowiam> ok that then means clear switching to fedora or arch linux :D
[21:10] <dunnowiam> thx for help
[21:10] <glogic> What the heck.
[21:14] <Geony> ...
[21:14] <owenn> Hello all. My ubuntu 14.04 which has an encrypted /home dir won't mount. I'm getting the error 'Mount of device (uid: 0) not owned by requested user (uid: 1000)' then it says ' Reading sb failed; rc = [-1]' I can log in as a guest user in the gui. Any help would be grately apreciated. Thanks.
[21:15] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: I've got to go in ~10 minutes. Any ideas/suggestions?
[21:16] <yagi> owenn: eh
[21:16] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: No, sorry.
[21:17] <trsohmers> EriC^^: I logged in as a guest user, and dash and launchpad are there... any way to have it work with my account?
[21:17] <yagi> owenn: that means you do not have the required permission to mount
[21:17] <trsohmers> Jordan_U: Thanks for your help anyways!
[21:17] <Jordan_U> trsohmers: You're welcome.
[21:18] <owenn> yagi: I guessed it might be that. Weird that it all of a sudden did that after almost a year of use. Any ideas why ?
[21:18] <yagi> owenn: are you mounting a partition or a disk?
[21:18] <yagi> sounds like you are mounting the raw disk
[21:18] <EriC^^> trsohmers: try renaming /home/<user>/.config or .cache or .gvfs to see what's the culprit
[21:18] <owenn> yagi: It's a partition
[21:19] <EriC^^> trsohmers: also /home/<user>/.compiz ( try that one first )
[21:19] <yagi> owenn: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/partition mappername
[21:19] <piroko> Is there any reason why adding a kernel param to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and running update-grub would not actually add anything to the files under /boot/grub/ ?
[21:19] <yagi> owenn: then mount /dev/mapper/mappername /home/user
[21:19] <trsohmers> EriC^^: Renaming it to what?
[21:19] <EriC^^> trsohmers: anything, so it creates new files
[21:20] <owenn> yagi: run the cryptstetup as root?
[21:20] <yagi> owenn: mhm
[21:21] <yagi> owenn: or mount mappername as /home if the part contains multiple user dirs
[21:22] <trsohmers> EriC^^: I did mv ./config ./config2
[21:22] <EriC^^> trsohmers: ok
[21:22] <trsohmers> What should have happened?
[21:22] <EriC^^> trsohmers: did you add a "." before config ? ~/.config
[21:22] <guest-Ntx0JY> yo, how do i create my own channel for private use?
[21:23] <trsohmers> EriC^^: Yes
[21:23] <EriC^^> guest-Ntx0JY: ask in #freenode
[21:23] <trsohmers> EriC^^: It is now /.config2
[21:23] <guest-Ntx0JY> thanks man!
[21:23] <bekks> trsohmers: Just type "/j #myownscretchannel" :)
[21:23] <EriC^^> trsohmers: ok login to your account and see if it works, if it doesn't then try renaming other ones til it works
[21:23] <bekks> trsohmers: tabfail. IT was meant for guest-Ntx0JY
[21:24] <piroko> long story short I'm trying to enable zswap by adding zswap.enabled=1 to the end of the kernel line
[21:24] <piroko> But it appears to be getting completely ignored by update-grub
[21:25] <trsohmers> EriC^^: I'm assuming i need to log out of my account in the GUI... I went it to the guest account because my account locked itself, but I can't seem to figure how to actually log out of it
[21:25] <EriC^^> trsohmers: type sudo service lightdm restart
[21:26] <trsohmers> EriC^^: That seemed to fix it
[21:26] <trsohmers> EriC^^: Thanks so much!
[21:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:27] <owenn> yagi: I'm getting the error 'Device /dev/sda6 is not a valid LUKS device.' sda6 being my /home dir
[21:28] <owenn> yagi: When I installed Ubuntu, I selected the 'Encrypt home directory' option.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> piroko: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[21:30] <yagi> owenn: default behaviour unknown to mee
[21:30] <yagi> me
[21:30] <piroko> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/gUgVYgYX http://pastebin.com/uT5yZk2W
[21:30] <yagi> owenn: just mount the mapper on /mnt and see if there are multiple user dirs
[21:33] <Jordan_U> piroko: sudo grub-mkconfig | pastebinit
[21:33] <Jordan_U> piroko: (That will print stderr to the terminal, and pastebin stdout only, which is what I want).
[21:33] <piroko> Yeah
[21:33] <piroko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10041782/
[21:34] <piroko> I'm an experienced user :)
[21:35] <Jordan_U> piroko: That is quite odd.
[21:35] <piroko> I agree
[21:35] <piroko> I upgraded from ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 using the official software updater fyi
[21:35] <piroko> Though I'm not sure why that would affect anything
[21:37] <Jordan_U> piroko: As a test, please change /etc/default/grub so that GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="testing123" then re-run "sudo grub-mkconfig | pastebinit".
[21:38] <piroko> Already did it. No effect. Also, just changing say, rootdelay=300 to rootdelay=200, rootdelay is still 300 in grub.cfg
[21:38] <Jordan_U> piroko: What is the output of "type grub-mkconfig"?
[21:39] <piroko> grub-mkconfig is /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig
[21:39] <caonicaldroid> How do I get the max potential of my ubuntu?
[21:39] <caonicaldroid> How do i get the most out of it
[21:40] <Jordan_U> piroko: Are you sure that you're editing and pastebining /etc/default/grub and making a typo?
[21:40] <philipp_> Hello there! I am having trouble mounting a new ext4 partition. I configured it as "default" in /etc/fstab but it still mounts as read-only for me, the logged-in user. I do own the mount point. Thank you very much for any help!
[21:41] <piroko> Jordan_U: heh yeah. here: https://asciinema.org/a/16054
[21:41] <k1l> philipp_: what says dmesg to it?
[21:41] <Ben64> philipp_: pastebin the output of "mount"
[21:42] <Jordan_U> philipp_: That usually implies a filesystem error. check dmesg for errors.
[21:42] <Guest3080> how can I make the battery life last longer? I had Windows 8 on this machine and the battery life was a lot better
[21:42] <k1l> caonicaldroid: use it as you like.
[21:42] <caonicaldroid> I want the max out of it
[21:42] <caonicaldroid> How do i get it to peak speed?
[21:42] <caonicaldroid> Stuff like thatr
[21:42] <caonicaldroid> Can i change the boot animation?
[21:42] <k1l> caonicaldroid: there is no magic command. ask specific questions and we can try to solve that
[21:43] <caonicaldroid> Sometimes it gets sluggish and lags a bit
[21:43] <piroko> Jordan_U: That should eliminate any user-error assumptions :)
[21:43] <caonicaldroid> how do i make it run smooth 100% of the time
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Guest3080: Make sure that you're using the proper graphics drivers, and run "powertop" to get specific recommendations.
[21:43] <k1l> caonicaldroid: yes you can. the boot animation service is called plymouth
[21:43] <JustSigh1udes> Hi guys. My CPU load is basically 0 and I'm only using 2 out of 16 Gigs of ram. What could be the reasons my com[uter is so slow? Even typing this is slow. I'd type like 5 letters and they'd show up in about 3 seconds.
[21:44] <Guest3080> man powertop
[21:44] <caonicaldroid> Will it slow me down at all? k1l
[21:44] <k1l> caonicaldroid: what?
[21:44] <caonicaldroid> Will the changing of boot animations with plymouth slow me down
[21:45] <k1l> caonicaldroid: depends on the boot animation.
[21:45] <jhutchins> philipp_: Perhaps you should set that to "defaults" instead.
[21:45] <k1l> caonicaldroid: if you want a lightweight desktop you can try if Lubuntu or Xubuntu suits you better
[21:46] <Jordan_U> piroko: Please pastebin the output of "sudo bash -x /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig".
[21:46] <essi> No sound in Xfce but sound in Gnome
[21:46] <glogic> Xubuntu is a fine choice, but you could just as easily install Xfce in ubuntu...
[21:46] <jhutchins> caonicaldroid: Tweaking and fiddling is unlikely to yeild noticible results.  Instead, learn to use it well and read documentation on how it works so you can understand what can be optimized to your particular tasks.
[21:46] <piroko> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10041982/
[21:47] <philipp_> jhutchins: It actually is "defaults". :-)
[21:47] <jhutchins> philipp_: Well, that's good at least.
[21:47] <philipp_> Here's the output from dmesg and mount: http://pastebin.com/9pMTj7hP
[21:47] <piroko> LOL
[21:47] <k1l> philipp_: so its a mount point permissions issue? the partition is rw
[21:47] <piroko> oh
[21:47] <piroko> + . /etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg
[21:48] <piroko> So this is apparently a file that azure installed that is blowing away my settings. gg wp
[21:48] <piroko> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[21:48] <Ben64> philipp_: ls -ld /media/philipp/SSD
[21:48] <philipp_> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb  3 22:08 /media/philipp/SSD
[21:49] <Ben64> there you go, root owns it, not you
[21:49] <k1l> philipp_: chmod it to your user:user
[21:49] <Jordan_U> piroko: You're welcome :). Did you create /etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg ?
[21:49] <jhutchins> philipp_: Is there data on the drive?
[21:49] <piroko> Jordan_U: No. It came with the VM that was provisioned by Microsoft Azure
[21:49] <piroko> But I didn't know of its existence until now
[21:50] <Jordan_U> piroko: If you figure out what added it please file a bug report with them.
[21:50] <philipp_> There you go, I chowned the mount point BEFORE mounting.
[21:50] <philipp_> Thanks!
[21:52] <jhutchins> piroko: You need to be careful to work within the modifications Azure may have made to the image.  It's not to hard to upgrade a VM, override the customizations and completely loose access.
[21:52] <piroko> jhutchins: Yeah I've kinda thought about that
[21:52] <jhutchins> piroko: Look for documentation and standards they may hve posted.
[21:52] <piroko> This is microsoft we're talking about here lol
[21:53] <piroko> But I'll try to find something
[21:53] <iamwhoiam> hello people, a question: does anybody know how i can change the ctrl+alt+(fn)F1 keyboard shortcut for tty to something with less keys?
[21:54] <essi> No sound in Xfce but sound in Gnome
[21:54] <piroko> Alright time to test. Hopefully I don't lose access because of the swap modification lol. brb
[21:55] <k1l> essi: see if its the right output device in the (pulseaudio) system sound settings
[21:55] <Guest3080> Jordan, I get the recommendations from Tunables using Powertop....how do I go about making the changes?
[21:56] <piroko> [    0.942530] zswap: using lzo compressor
[21:56] <piroko> w00t
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Guest3080: What is the exact message from powertop?
[21:58] <Guest3080> Bad           Wireless Power Saving for interface wlan0
[21:58] <Guest3080>    Bad           NMI watchdog should be turned off
[21:58] <Guest3080>    Bad           VM writeback timeout
[21:58] <Guest3080>    Bad           Enable SATA link power Managmenet for host0
[21:58] <Guest3080>    Bad           Enable SATA link power Managmenet for host1
[21:58] <Guest3080>    Bad           Enable SATA link power Managmenet for host2
[21:58] <Goose_> hello
[21:59] <Goose_> sup guys
[21:59] <Goose_> anyone wanna help me out with something?
[21:59] <Guest3080> hi
[21:59] <Goose_> hey man
[22:00] <k1l> Guest3080: use a pastebin for long text pastings
[22:00] <Guest3080> ok
[22:00] <cjenkin1> Goose_, Go ahead and ask your question, instead of asking to ask :)
[22:00] <Guest3080> new to this
[22:00] <k1l> Goose_: just ask if its ubuntu support releadet
[22:00] <k1l> !paste | Guest3080
[22:00] <Goose_> haha alright. Can anyone help with swap memory?
[22:00] <sevenfourk> hi fellas.  could you please advice which service in Ubuntu 14.04.1 account for power management ?  I can't seem to disable it.  Thanks
[22:00] <Guest3080> will do
[22:00] <Guest3080> thanks
[22:00] <Goose_> I haven't been able to get mine activated
[22:01] <cjenkin1> Goose_, You about to install, or already have installed?
[22:01] <cjenkin1> Goose_, "activated"?
[22:02] <Goose_> ill be back
[22:02] <Goose_> sorry,
[22:02] <sevenfourk> purged all the unneccessry stuff, doing a simple/minimalistic setup, and anyway can't find where power management is to config it.
[22:02]  * cjenkin1 shrugs
[22:03] <Jordan_U> sevenfourk: What specifically are you trying to configure?
[22:04] <zshuai> jiu
[22:05] <sevenfourk> Jordan_U: I want to disable hibernate by closing the laptop back.  acpi removed.  and it top I do not see any service which should be responsible for that.  have lesser experience with ubuntu.  been a debian user for quite a while
[22:06] <doctari> sevenfourk, is there a power icon in the upper right hand corner?
[22:06] <k1l> sevenfourk: what desktop?
[22:07] <sevenfourk> fellas, here's my ps -ef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10042296/
[22:08] <Jordan_U> sevenfourk: HandleLidSwitch=ignore in /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[22:08] <sevenfourk> doctari, k1l: no power icon, I'm usind dwm
[22:08] <sevenfourk> ah
[22:08] <sevenfourk> Jordan_U: thanks.
[22:09] <Jordan_U> sevenfourk: You're welcome. You can get more information about logind.conf with "man logind.conf".
[22:09] <sevenfourk> sorry fellas.  not a experienced user of systemd.
[22:10] <sevenfourk> yes, config looks nice and preaty self-explanable
[22:10] <sevenfourk> pretty*
[22:10] <Goose_> okay im back
[22:10] <k1l> actually logind so far is excluded from systemd and patched to work with upstart :)
[22:10] <Goose_> My swap memory doesn't appear to be active
[22:10] <NegativeFlare> oh?
[22:10] <k1l> Goose_: did you create a swap partition?
[22:11] <Goose_> Yep here is what I put in casey@casey-HP-ENVY-TS-15-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo swapon -s Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority /dev/sda3                              	partition	7563260	0	-1 casey@casey-HP-ENVY-TS-15-Notebook-PC:~$
[22:11] <Goose_> oh... bad format
[22:11] <k1l> !paste | Goose_
[22:11] <Goose_> I'm bad at this...
[22:11] <Goose_> I do have a swap partition, and when I put in
[22:12] <Goose_> "sudo swapon -s" shows me it is not being used at all and priority is -1
[22:12] <k1l> Goose_: see the bots message and put the teyt into a pastebin please
[22:12] <sevenfourk> I must say, this Ubuntu system is great, few efforts to run it and lesser efforts to work with it, superb!
[22:12] <sevenfourk> and to get the job done.
[22:13] <k1l> Goose_: priority -1 is fine.
[22:13] <sevenfourk> cheers everyone.  have a good night!
[22:13] <Goose_> Then why is it always showing 0 is used?
[22:13] <k1l> Goose_: see "htop" to see the usage of ram and swap
[22:13] <k1l> Goose_: if its not needed?
[22:14] <k1l> Goose_: swap is dead slow. you dont want swap usage. you want your ram used as much as possible before its starting to use the much slower hdd
[22:14] <Goose_> didn't know about htop, i really like it.
[22:15] <NegativeFlare> Goose_: glances is nice as well
[22:15] <Goose_> Oh okay, I was just under the impression it was never on, since I've never seen it activated. THanks guys
[22:15] <Goose_> I'll check out glances
[22:15] <Goose_> anything similar for network info?
[22:15] <k1l> Goose_: please put a "free -m" into a pastebin service and put the link in here
[22:15] <NegativeFlare> Goose_: glances shows you everything about your computer
[22:16] <Goose_> OH. Thanks man!
[22:16] <NegativeFlare> CPU info, Network info, Disk activity, processes, etc
[22:16] <NegativeFlare> I love it
[22:16] <Goose_> Oh this is awesome!
[22:17] <NegativeFlare> Goose_: just make sure you run it with sudo
[22:17] <NegativeFlare> otherwise it won't show you everything
[22:17] <Goose_> http://pastebin.com/CsKXMjm2
[22:17] <Goose_> ^For Kill:
[22:17] <NegativeFlare> Goose_: Here's a screenshot of it in action: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8e24i9e16dijvk/Screenshot%20-%2002032015%20-%2005%3A17%3A06%20PM.png?dl=0
[22:18] <k1l> Goose_: see the second line: you got 5GB ram free if you exclude buffers and cache.
[22:18] <Goose_> yeah, I'm using it now
[22:18] <k1l> Goose_: so no need to swap at all
[22:18] <SchrodingersScat> Goose_: I use iftop a lot, for some reason, it's a network interface top.  iotop for disks
[22:18] <k1l> Goose_: good explanations at linuxatemyram. com
[22:18] <Goose_> oh okay, I just figured it wasn't on since I've never seen it active. I am retard apparently haha. THanks!
[22:19] <NegativeFlare> Goose_: :) Just let us know if you need more help :D
[22:20] <Goose_> will do. You guys are the shit. I fucking LOVE ubuntu now, man. Been using it for abour 6 months and I can't even imagine going back to windows
[22:20] <vinicius_> Hi
[22:20] <cjenkin1> Goose_, :) Welcome home then
[22:20] <Goose_> especially now that I got it looking nice
[22:20] <Zeedox> Hi, earlier today I used an old USB drive to move some files to a friend's computer. But while the USB drive mounted correctly and listed the files, my friend couldn't open any file.
[22:20] <Goose_> Yeah, I'll be here a lot now
[22:20] <Zeedox> Anyone know what might have caused that?
[22:20] <Ben64> Goose_: little tip though, this channel's language needs to be family friendly
[22:21] <NegativeFlare> Zeedox: permissions, you need to chmod +Rv 777 the files if you're going to use them on a windows machine, this doesn't happen all the time. But sometimes it does.
[22:21] <Goose_> It may not my the correct file types
[22:21] <Zeedox> The files were added from my Ubuntu computer and couldn't be opened by the friend's Ubuntu computer.
[22:21] <Goose_> That's okay! I'll be friendly!
[22:21] <Ben64> Goose_: well you used a word that wasn't a few lines up
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: What type of files? What happens when they try to open them?
[22:21] <Goose_> hmmmm, what is the filesystem type of usb?
[22:21] <Zeedox> NegativeFlare: Any way to automatically set files as 777 so I wont forget?
[22:22] <NegativeFlare> Zeedox: not that I know of. :/
[22:22] <NegativeFlare> Like I said, it doesn't happen all the time
[22:22] <Goose_> Do they still open on yours?
[22:22] <Ben64> Zeedox: or your friend could use chown to make himself the owner
[22:22] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Movie files. Permission errors by VLC.
[22:22] <rictoo> what would be the best way to organize a university's (~1000 members) questions and discussions online?
[22:22] <Zeedox> Ben64: No root access.
[22:22] <Goose_> rictoo: Forums
[22:22] <k1l> rictoo: that question suits better into the #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:22] <Goose_> But kill is correct
[22:23] <rictoo> sorry
[22:23] <Goose_> No problem. You'll just probably get more help there than here
[22:23] <doctari> rictoo, a database backed forum system
[22:23] <Zeedox> Goose_: Yes, and they had me as the owner.
[22:23] <Ben64> Zeedox: strange. nothing would normally prevent reading a file on a usb drive, default permissions are 644 for files, which means readable by everyone
[22:23] <compi_> hi, I installed lubuntu on an old laptop using the alternative installation. The mouse is jittery and the keyboard slow to respond. There are multiple entries in the syslog " wistron_btns: unknown key code 10.
[22:24] <compi_> anyone a idea where I can look to fix this?
[22:24] <doctari> compi_, look for stuck keys on the keyboard
[22:24] <Zeedox> Ben64: But 4 is readonly?
[22:24] <Goose_> Weird. So both systems are using root access and it only opens on yours?
[22:25] <Zeedox> Goose_: No, my friend doesn't have root access on their computer.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l /path/to/usb/files/".
[22:25] <compi_> doctari: thanks, had a look, no stuck keys or mouse buttons.
[22:25] <Zeedox> When I got home I inspected the files, they were all "-rw-------".
[22:26] <Goose_> Compi: Is it a totally fresh install? Did you format old HDD?
[22:26] <jhutchins> If the filesystem on the drive is linux/ext, then the permissions of the files are whatever the system that wrote them set.
[22:26] <Goose_> Zeedox: Try getting them to use root access, see if that workd
[22:26] <Zeedox> jhutchins: And that really carries over? Strange.
[22:26] <doctari> compi_, well depending on how old the hardware is the ps/2 ports may be failing or may be dirty
[22:26] <jhutchins> If it's a FAT or NTFS filesystem it will mount as ro by default (except root).
[22:27] <Zeedox> Goose_: Well, their user weren't added to the sudoers file, so I don't think that will work.
[22:27] <Goose_> Not really. Windows and Linux have differnt default filesystems
[22:27] <Zeedox> Goose_: That drive hasn't ever touched a Windows system.
[22:28] <compi_> Goose_: it is a fresh install alongside windows XP. I did created a ext4 partition for the lubuntu install
[22:28] <doctari> compi_, may I I suggest doing an ctrl+Alt+F2 and go to a command prompt and see if the keyboard is still jittery
[22:28] <Zeedox> Oh, sorry, thought you were talking to me.
[22:28] <Goose_> Oh weird. Please pastbin output og "ls -l /path/to/usb/files" as Jardan_U suggested
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: What is the output of "umask" on your machine?
[22:29] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: 002
[22:29] <compi_> doctari: did that, keyboard still jittery, caps lock now stuck ON and unable to turn off...
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: Presumably actually "0002"?
[22:30] <Goose_> Compi: Try reinstlaling drivers of keyboard
[22:30] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: No, 002
[22:30] <compi_> Goose_, okay.. how do I do that?
[22:31] <Goose_> Is it a laptop? or desktop?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: What about "umask -p"?
[22:31] <compi_> LAptop. Acer travelmate 254DC_LC
[22:31] <compi_> Goose_, Laptop. Acer travelmate 254DC_LC
[22:32] <Goose_> Compi: Try this link, it helps with re-installation of keyboards http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1753121
[22:32] <compi_> Goose_ : Thanks I will try the link.
[22:32] <caonicaldroid> Hey so I got my driver installed on my other pc for wireless network but still i cant connect to wifi
[22:32] <caonicaldroid> what do i do
[22:32] <Goose_> Anyone know why my touchscreen doesnt "click"
[22:32] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Bad option.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: What driver did you install and how?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:32] <Goose_> IIf i tap somewhere, it only moves cursor there, doesn't click
[22:33] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: 14.04 Trusty.
[22:33] <Goose_> I'll actually let chat chill a bit and be back in a bit. Have a good night guys!
[22:33] <Goose_> Thanks for the help?
[22:33] <Goose_> !
[22:33] <Zeedox> The USB drive is ext4, by the way.
[22:33] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Using zsh.
[22:33] <Goose_> Zeedox: Weird. Most usbs are FAT16 or FAT32
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: Ahh, that explains it.
[22:34] <Goose_> I asked that question way earlier...
[22:34] <Goose_> save files, reformat to FAT32, try again
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: OK, that umask should be making most programs write files with 774 permissions by default. What application wrote those files in the first place?
[22:34] <Zeedox> Goose_: Sorry, I missed that question.
[22:35] <Zeedox> Ah, missed :x
[22:35] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Nautilus and Thunar.
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: I mean what created the original files. Most file managers will try to preserve permissions when copying.
[22:35] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: I think I formatted the drive myself a long time ago. Something might have gone wrong then I guess, the guide I tried to follow was not up to date for Ubuntu 14.04.
[22:36] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: I don't know, the files are years old.
[22:37] <Zeedox> http://vpaste.net/jCLiR <- mockup of what `ll` showed, before I chmodded everything to 777
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: OK. As far as I know there's no easy configuration for "automtically add permissions bits when copying files to external media", you'll just have to check yourself and chmod. Using FAT32 would work around this problem, because it has no such permissions and so everything must be world readable/writeable.
[22:38] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: I guess using FAT32 would be the correct solution then. Thanks.
[22:38] <Zeedox> Too bad formatting USB drives is so hard with Linux...
[22:39] <Ben64> it isn't?
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: Well, FAT32 has some limitations, for example you can't have files larger than 4 GiB.
[22:39] <Zeedox> Ben64: I've actually failed many times trying to do it. :(
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: It's not hard at all. If you are having trouble doing something try explaining what exactly you're doing, what you expect to happen, and what happens instead.
[22:41] <jjavaholic> ubuntu default and gnome flashback(compiz) no window decorations
[22:41] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Some of it is expectation - in Windows Explorer there is a right-click command to format USB drives. But that's no real issue.
[22:41] <k1l> jjavaholic: is the video driver working proprerly?
[22:42] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: I think "Disks" is the program to use? The options sort of confuse me, and the guides I found last time were outdated.
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: GParted is the easiest tool for the job.
[22:42] <Ben64> theres that, gparted, parted, fdisk, gdisk, any of the mkfs executables
[22:42] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Gparted requires root access.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: Yes, it does.
[22:43] <Zeedox> For some reason.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: Is that a problem for you?
[22:43] <Ben64> because you wouldn't want an unprivileged user formatting your drives...
[22:43] <imbezol> if you just left it as ext4 and set permissions properly you'd have no issues
[22:43] <imbezol> mount it.. chmod 777 /path/to/usb/drive
[22:43] <Zeedox> Ben64: But what about their own drives?
[22:43] <jjavaholic> glxgears work
[22:44] <Zeedox> imbezol: Yeah, I've done that.
[22:44] <Ben64> Zeedox: how would it know which drive is theirs and which drive isn't?
[22:44] <imbezol> Zeedox: worst case your friend can run "sudo chmod -R o+rw /path/to/usb" after they mount it
[22:45] <Zeedox> Ben64: I don't really know. Maybe it's my expectations that are warped. It just seems like it would make more sense to be able to format drives you have hardware access to by default, with optional lowering of permissions.
[22:45] <Zeedox> But I guess that's not the unix way.
[22:45] <Zeedox> imbezol: No, they are not in the sudoers file.
[22:45] <Ben64> yeah, its much more secure than windows. thats why sudo exists
[22:45] <Ben64> if you don't have root, you can't mess with the system, it really makes sense
[22:46] <travnewmatic> wooooould someone be so kind as to assist me in my iptables troubles
[22:47] <jjavaholic> no unity launcher or global menu in ubuntu default session
[22:47] <Zeedox> Ben64: Technically I wouldn't call a USB device as part of the system, but it would be hard to detect for the computer, so I guess it's safer to err on the cautius side.
[22:48] <Ben64> its not a mistake
[22:48] <Zeedox> But then, why doesn't "Disks" require authentication, while "gparted" does?
[22:48] <k1l> jjavaholic: again: see if the driver is working as expected
[22:48] <Zeedox> Ben64: If it's my hardware, I think it is. :)
[22:49] <Ben64> then you should have sudo!
[22:49] <pyromine> Does anyone know how can I trigger a script to run everytime that I connect to a wifi network?
[22:50] <k1l> jjavaholic: support please only in here
[22:50] <k1l> jjavaholic: please pastebin the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3"
[22:50] <travnewmatic> iptables support would be super welcome
[22:51] <Ben64> travnewmatic: ask a question and you may see some support
[22:51] <travnewmatic> i've been working on getting my openstack test lab setup in virtualbox on ubuntu server 14.04.1
[22:51] <ablest1980> do iptables -h
[22:51] <travnewmatic> which i was successful in, thanks to the scripts
[22:52] <travnewmatic> however since they're in virtual machines, they're mostly only accessible on the host system
[22:52] <travnewmatic> which isnt terribly bad
[22:52] <travnewmatic> except the control panel is accessible in the browser
[22:52] <travnewmatic> anyway
[22:52] <jjavaholic> http://pastebin.com/caUhkEu4
[22:53] <travnewmatic> i did the port forwarding to send the vm with the webapp on it from its internal address:80 to my servers public address:8888
[22:53] <travnewmatic> ideally, i want my openstack servers web interface to be accessible only from my work ip range, 69.41.160.0/24
[22:54] <travnewmatic> and ssh from anywhere to anywhere
[22:54] <travnewmatic> block everything else
[22:54] <caonicaldroid> Jordan_U are you still here
[22:54] <Jordan_U> Zeedox: gnome-disks uses policykit for more fine grained permissions controlls. Some operations still require an administrative user to enter a password.
[22:54] <travnewmatic> those are my three objectives, port 8888 accessible only from 69.41.160.0/24, no restrictions on SSH,, block everything else
[22:55] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Yes.
[22:55] <Zeedox> Jordan_U: Ok.
[22:55] <travnewmatic> Ben64, any suggestions :(
[22:56] <ablest1980> port 8888 internet?
[22:56] <caonicaldroid> I went to additional drivers connected usb tethering from my phone and enabled my wireless driver
[22:56] <caonicaldroid> But i still dont have wifi
[22:56] <k1l> jjavaholic: does it work when you log into another user or the guest-mode?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Please pastebin the output of "nm-tool".
[22:57] <caonicaldroid> I cant
[22:57] <caonicaldroid> Im on a different pc
[22:57] <jjavaholic> if it does work with another user or guest mode what would you suggest it was wrong?
[22:57] <travnewmatic> ablest1980, hostaddress:8888 is forwarded to guestmachineaddress:80
[22:58] <k1l> jjavaholic: then something in your user configuration in you users /home is broken
[22:58] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Can you tether again, or copy via a USB drive?
[22:58] <ablest1980> k
[22:58] <ablest1980> ok
[22:58] <k1l> jjavaholic: so we could reset that and it would work again
[22:58] <pm709> someone can help to encrypt rootfs  ? I'm pretty lost :o
[22:58] <pm709> i create a new partiion, format it with cryptsetup
[22:58] <jjavaholic> reset the local settings where would I find them?
[22:58] <Goose_> Yo!
[22:58] <pm709> rsync my current root to the encrypted partition
[22:59] <pm709> and after, i think, i entered in the initramfs stuff. right ?
[22:59] <k1l> jjavaholic: ~/.gconf ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/unity
[22:59] <pm709> but dunno what/how to do :o
[22:59] <travnewmatic> i've figured out how to restrict the 8888 access to my office subnet
[23:00] <travnewmatic> and i think i'm allowing ssh properly
[23:00] <travnewmatic> until i do iptables -A INPUT -j DROP
[23:01] <Goose_> So, why does my touchscreen only move  my cursor, not click things? How do I manage tocuhscreen settings?
[23:01] <travnewmatic> then ssh from my host machine to the guest machines break
[23:01] <Goose_> HP ENVY touchsmart 15 btw
[23:02] <travnewmatic> then everything goes to shit
[23:02] <Grant_P> Anyone able to tell me why mdadm sucks so much in 14.04? It wont automount my raid, i have to keep discovering it.
[23:02] <Grant_P> Personally dm-raid was so much better.
[23:02] <compdoc> Grant_P, maybe thats a feature, rather than a bug
[23:04] <kids> How do I make a window ( such as chromium ) take the full screen in X without a window manager?
[23:04] <Grant_P> compdoc: haha any ideas? I had an LUKS + EXT4 partition but just gone back to basics and trying to get the raid mounted first.
[23:05] <kids> I called it with -start-maximized, but it is still missing a few milimeters all around the window
[23:10] <bobbobbins> hi, I was getting an error with one of my applications that starts on boot, saying that mysql wasn’t available yet, so I went into insserv.conf and tried to make mysql required before it starts, now it doesn’t boot at all, no error message or anything, did insserv just decide to ignore it?
[23:10] <dgarstang> I'm trying to use "apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 1C4CBDCDCD2EFD2A" on a vagrant vm running Ubuntu 14 and it's just hanging. Any ideas?
[23:13] <rhl> Hi -- how do I install libmetis-dev in ubuntu 12.02 ?
[23:13] <dgarstang> Que? "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[23:14] <pkayii> hello everyone, I have a general question. when one clicks on an image in a web browser, there is this 'Save Image As..' menu item. is it the same in every popular and less popular browser?
[23:15] <pkayii> I mean right-click, of course
[23:16] <Marcello-MiX> pkayii, I believe that is present in every browser
[23:17] <pkayii> Marcello-MiX, I believe, too..just wanted to know if it's already a standard quality in every one.
[23:17] <Yves> Hi, I need to record, in avi format, what im doing on my computer. Plz what are your suggestions?
[23:17] <rsp> in ubuntu how can I determine which user is logged on when I am running a script as root
[23:17] <rsp> I'm writing a log out script
[23:17] <EriC^^> Yves: try recordmydesktop
[23:18] <Yves> EriC^^: Thanks
[23:18] <Spec> rsp: the command "users" will show you a list of the currently logged in users
[23:18] <rsp> Spec: ok. but how will I know which one is graphically logged on currently
[23:19] <Jordan_U> rsp: What is your end goal?
[23:19] <rsp> I want to unmount an sshfs connection with a lightdm logout script, but the script is run as root and I want to know the current users name that is logged on on lightdm
[23:20] <EriC^^> rsp: w | grep :.*init
[23:20] <EriC^^> maybe?
[23:20] <EriC^^> rsp: w | awk '/:.*init/ {print$1}'
[23:21] <rsp> fusermount -uz "/home/`whoami`/My Remote Files" whoami will always return root here since the logout script is called by light dm
[23:22] <Jordan_U> rsp: What is your end goal though? Do you want to terminate an sshfs connection when the user logs out?
[23:22] <rsp> Jordan_U: yes
[23:23] <Yves> Looks perfect.  Thanks to EriC :)
[23:23] <marcello> Marcello-MiX, teste!
[23:25] <EriC^^> Yves: no problem :)
[23:26] <caonicaldroid> Jordan_U still here?
[23:26] <caonicaldroid> ?
[23:26] <Grant_P> Why do i need to run 'sudo mdadm --assemble --scan' everytime i boot to get my raid to show?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Yes.
[23:27] <caonicaldroid> orry i dropped again
[23:27] <caonicaldroid> But do you have a for sure fix for this?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: I'm still waiting for the output of "nm-tool".
[23:29] <caonicaldroid> ok lemme run it
[23:29] <SupaYoshi_> test
[23:30] <Jordan_U> rsp: Do you want to know who is currently logged in, or who just logged out? Why does it matter if they're logged in via lightdm or via a tty?
[23:30] <caonicaldroid> how do i get it to you if that pc doesnt connect to internet
[23:31] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Teather again or copy the output to a USB drive, transfer the file via USB drive to a computer that is connected to the internet.
[23:32] <rsp> I want to know the current user of the lightdm. because there is no global .bash_logout so my go is lightdm logout script
[23:32] <rsp> Jordan_U:
[23:32] <caonicaldroid> ok
[23:32] <essi> Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information.
[23:32] <essi> >>> 0 card(s) available.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> rsp: I don't know what is meant by "current user of the lightdm". Is that the user that is trying to log off? Is it one of the possibly many users still logged in? Something else?
[23:34] <rsp> the on trying to log off
[23:35] <Jeeves_Moss> is there a netflow EXPORTER for Ubuntu?  I'd like to monitor my boxes using my netflow monitor
[23:35] <Jordan_U> rsp: OK. From http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/lightdm/2012-December/000335.html it sounds like that can be found via the $USER environment variable from within your logout script.
[23:36] <rsp> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll try this. I run sshfs with & in /usr/profile and want to fusermount it when logging off
[23:36] <Jordan_U> rsp: You're welcome.
[23:39] <caonicaldroid> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/MwLQ2nb3
[23:39] <caonicaldroid> theres the output
[23:41] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: OK, it looks like your card isn't being recognized by network-manager at all. What driver did you install?
[23:42] <caonicaldroid> I just went to additional drivers and clicked on enable and it took a while then the additional driver disappeared but still no wifi
[23:42] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Open Additional Drivers again and tell me what it calls the driver (it should still be listed).
[23:43] <caonicaldroid> Its not listed anymore
[23:43] <daftykins> go go gadget APT history
[23:44] <EriC^^> :D
[23:44] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Is this a USB wireless adaptor or an internal wireless card?
[23:45] <caonicaldroid> internal wireless card
[23:45] <Jordan_U> caonicaldroid: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn" .
[23:46] <crypt1> d
[23:46] <dtscode> is there a command to tell me what programs are running on what ports?
[23:46] <jhutchins> !raid
[23:46] <jhutchins> dtscode: netstat can do that.
[23:46] <OerHeks> !info lsof
[23:47] <dtscode> thanks
[23:47] <daftykins> netstat -tuln indeedy
[23:47] <dgarstang> How can I ignore popup dialogs when installing .deb packages? I can't use DEBIAN_FRONTEND. Needs to be a CLI option
[23:49] <caonicaldroid> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/bycVDdHJ
[23:53] <ubuntu> hey
[23:55] <dtscode> im sorry what was the command? x crashed on me before i could use it
[23:57] <Bashing-om> dtscode: >> < daftykins> netstat -tuln indeedy ??
[23:57] <dtscode> thank you
[23:58] <jhutchins> dgarstang: I don't know the details, but the configuration for debconfig is where I think you set that.
[23:58] <dtscode> let me rephrase, because that didnt work. how can i tell what port a specific process is listening on?
[23:58] <jhutchins> dtscode: netstat.
[23:58] <daftykins> dtscode: it helps you if you know your port numbers. what are we talking about here?
[23:59] <jhutchins> dtscode: Check the manpage and experiment with the options until you get what you need.
[23:59] <ryanprior> Is there a way to integrate my Google/Android contacts with my desktop? For example, it would be nice to be able to have contacts show up in a HUD search.
[23:59] <dtscode> alright. im trying to figure out what port my ts server is running on becasuse its not default