| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| Noskcaj | thanks micahg | 04:58 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Long gone, mate. | 04:59 |
| === Mez_ is now known as Mez | ||
| ochosi | not that anybody has noticed i guess, but spinners in all our gtk3 apps are broken | 16:25 |
| ochosi | i already pushed a branch for greybird and added the icon needed for it to work to elementary-xfce in git | 16:25 |
| === eydu is now known as brainwosh | ||
| elfy | brainwash: bug 1416843 | 17:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1416843 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "Indicator element appears over the panel, not above" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1416843 | 17:36 |
| elfy | http://i.imgur.com/3sr4Wd7.png | 17:36 |
| elfy | if you happen to click transmission in the panel and have shaky finger and click twice - you will in fact hit quit for it :) | 17:37 |
| brainwosh | elfy, ok.. but it works fine here. the menu never covers my panel | 17:40 |
| elfy | seems to work ok for me if panel is at top | 17:42 |
| brainwosh | elfy, it happens if you uncheck "reserve space on border" in the panel settings | 17:43 |
| elfy | mine's on intellihide currently so that option's not available | 17:44 |
| brainwosh | I guess it's a valid report after all | 17:45 |
| elfy | definitley an issue | 17:45 |
| elfy | yea :) | 17:45 |
| elfy | I'll comment | 17:45 |
| elfy | I'll do an upstream one too if it's needed | 17:45 |
| brainwosh | thanks, please mention that it's best to forward this bug upstream :) | 17:46 |
| brainwosh | heh :D | 17:46 |
| elfy | brainwosh: bug report against xfce4-panel or? | 17:49 |
| brainwosh | xfce4-indicator-plugin, because only the indicator menus are affected | 17:51 |
| brainwosh | other panel items are fine | 17:51 |
| elfy | not there to report against | 17:52 |
| elfy | nvm | 17:52 |
| brainwosh | I'm not sure if the menu placement is affected by the indicator-plugin, maybe it's something in the indicator code | 17:54 |
| elfy | ok reported and LP updated | 17:59 |
| brainwosh | thanks | 17:59 |
| elfy | at least I don't have to do a "It'll just get ignored why bother" :) | 18:00 |
| brainwosh | it's a rare case I'd guess. one has to move the panel to the bottom and configure it to not reserve space (so windows can go behind the panel) | 18:02 |
| elfy | brainwosh: not so rare - especially if we start giving people intellihide | 18:03 |
| elfy | people have to be expected to not like the defaults :) | 18:03 |
| elfy | wb cjbrambo | 18:16 |
| elfy | cjbrambo is rare - someone who wants to help us with testing \o/ | 18:16 |
| cjbrambo | Hi hi | 18:17 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy, FYI http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ is up now | 18:17 |
| slickymasterWork | bah wrong channel | 18:20 |
| cjbrambo | ^ I think that leads to an answer to an upcoming question of mine. | 18:20 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: zsync is still being an issue here | 18:21 |
| elfy | bbs | 18:21 |
| cjbrambo | I'm currently on 14.10 | 18:21 |
| cjbrambo | Never mind http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20150202/ | 18:23 |
| elfy | cjbrambo: in short - because I'm still not really here :) | 18:25 |
| elfy | you can do one of 3 things | 18:26 |
| elfy | upgrade that install to 15.04 | 18:26 |
| slickymasterWork | bbl -> | 18:26 |
| elfy | install 15.04 to a seperate partition | 18:26 |
| elfy | install 15.04 in a virt environment of some sort | 18:26 |
| elfy | we'll help you once you know which you're prefer to use :) | 18:26 |
| elfy | I'm in and out for the next hour or so, but will be back later | 18:27 |
| elfy | knome pleia2 - I never know who's got control of social stuff - but could someone tweet or f/b or google the mail for trusty point testing please :) | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | will do momentarily | 18:28 |
| elfy | thanks awfully :) | 18:29 |
| cjbrambo | I'm fine with upgrading. | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | all posted | 18:42 |
| pleia2 | I'll do one reminding people about QA for stickers soon too, now that it's february | 18:42 |
| drc | <slickymasterWork> elfy, FYI http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ is up now It may be up, but it's really really slow and in the end I get 0 byte files (tyried twice now). Anyone else having these problems? | 19:01 |
| drc | BTW, it's not my 'net connection :) | 19:01 |
| drc | I should note it's slow in display and refreshing, not DL'ing. | 19:02 |
| drc | but as I get a 0 byte file "slow" is relative :) | 19:03 |
| drc | OK, got a iso and md5 matches. Not sure what happened before. | 19:10 |
| cjbrambo | Not off to a great start http://i.imgur.com/wP6wOkn.png | 19:26 |
| brainwosh_ | cjbrambo, bug 1409555 | 19:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1409555 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "drop extras.ubuntu.com" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409555 | 19:32 |
| elfy | cjbrambo: that normal - just disable them , other software in software and updates - independent | 19:38 |
| === brainwosh_ is now known as brainwosh | ||
| elfy | cjbrambo: how's it going ? | 20:10 |
| cjbrambo | It's upgrading. | 20:11 |
| elfy | nice - which method you using? | 20:11 |
| cjbrambo | using the gui software updater | 20:12 |
| elfy | ok | 20:12 |
| elfy | oh great :| | 20:41 |
| elfy | seems that the .2 version of trusty has ibus in it | 20:45 |
| elfy | thought we got rid of that | 20:45 |
| cjbrambo | elfy, the upgrade to 15.04 took quite nicely. | 20:47 |
| elfy | cjbrambo: excellent - this your main machine? using it a lot? | 20:48 |
| cjbrambo | I use it a lot for development. But I always keep it so that I won't miss anything off it if something goes awry. | 20:49 |
| elfy | we call that exploratory testing, so if you use one of the default apps - for anything, please have a look at the package test for it | 20:51 |
| elfy | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/327/builds/82959/testcases | 20:51 |
| elfy | say you used mousepad - find that there ^^ | 20:52 |
| elfy | and have a look - then you can report bugs (if you've found and reported it to LP) | 20:52 |
| elfy | and pass or fail | 20:52 |
| elfy | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/327/builds/82959/testcases/1557/results | 20:53 |
| elfy | ochosi: just so you know - the .2 for trusty is about - and I have critically failed 32 and 64 bit as we seem to have ibus there again and I couldn't login with my password using US keyboard | 20:54 |
| brainwosh | login on the greeter screen? | 20:55 |
| elfy | mmm | 20:58 |
| elfy | now I can | 20:58 |
| cjbrambo | and would it be most helpful for me to just start at the top of the test cases and work my way down? | 20:58 |
| elfy | cjbrambo: no need to do that :) | 20:58 |
| cjbrambo | heh even better! | 20:59 |
| elfy | we set that tracker up at cycle start, then changed what we wanted to do | 20:59 |
| elfy | if you USE one of those apps - you can report against it - better to really use something than just run through a basic testcase | 20:59 |
| cjbrambo | Gotcha | 21:00 |
| elfy | brainwosh: mmm, not sure what's going on there - not got time tonight to do more | 21:00 |
| elfy | it'll have to wait till tomorrow now | 21:01 |
| elfy | cjbrambo: nice to see you - thanks for helping us all - and that means you as well if you use Xubuntu | 21:03 |
| cjbrambo | no problem. Been looking for a way to get involved with open source. Happy to help | 21:03 |
| elfy | :) | 21:03 |
| elfy | this is a pretty painfree way to do that :) | 21:04 |
| cjbrambo | Why I chose it! | 21:04 |
| elfy | Why I chose it too :p | 21:04 |
| elfy | and that coding is all a foreign land to me ... | 21:04 |
| cjbrambo | I'm new to programming. So, not much I can do there | 21:05 |
| elfy | :) | 21:06 |
| elfy | well - I'll see you next time - I'm off for the night now | 21:07 |
| elfy | others are about off and on if you're still here later | 21:07 |
| cjbrambo | Great. I'll through questions out when they arise | 21:08 |
| ochosi | elfy: hm, crap, that sounds bad. guess we gotta figure out what pulls it in | 21:52 |
| ochosi | elfy: and meh, that indicator bug sucks a bit. i'm not sure whether that's fixed best in the panel or actually in the indicator-plugin... | 22:08 |
| ochosi | but it could be an indicator-problem, since they are at the top of the screen in ubuntu too | 22:09 |
| ochosi | maybe there's some code related to that, but this is just a (very) wild guess | 22:09 |
| ochosi | ali1234: wanna take a peek at that ^, aka https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1416843 | 22:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1416843 in Xfce4 Indicator Plugin "Indicator element appears over the panel, not above" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:09 |
| ali1234 | i don't understand it | 22:10 |
| ochosi | it's pretty easy to reproduce | 22:10 |
| ochosi | move your panel to the lower end of the screen, set it to autohide or intellihide and click an indicator | 22:11 |
| ali1234 | can't reproduce | 22:12 |
| ochosi | in vivid? | 22:12 |
| ali1234 | no in 14.04 | 22:12 |
| ochosi | oh right | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | with the dev ppa | 22:13 |
| ochosi | hm, so what panel version is that then | 22:13 |
| ochosi | lemme check | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | 4.11.2 | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | there is actually a gap between the panel and the menu | 22:13 |
| ochosi | with dev-ppa you're referring to -staging? | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | but only at the bottom of the screen | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | i guess yeah | 22:13 |
| ochosi | ok, that should be fine | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | this is probably related to the struts bug | 22:14 |
| ochosi | so you're on the same panel version | 22:14 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:14 |
| ochosi | i thought so too | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | which has been fixed | 22:14 |
| ochosi | but it seems to happen exclusively with indicators | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | although that should never cause an overlap | 22:14 |
| ochosi | maybe they broke something in the indicators then | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | yeah because indicators are gtk3 | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | gtk2 menus aren't affected | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | it is a gtk3 regression | 22:14 |
| ochosi | yeha, i remember now | 22:14 |
| ochosi | the weird thing is that with a panel at the top of the screen everything is totally fine and expected | 22:15 |
| ochosi | it happens only at the bottom | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | anyway, struts but only affects multimonitor | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | it's almost certainly related somehow | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | ah | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | i know | 22:15 |
| ochosi | wtf | 22:15 |
| ochosi | it also works on left and right | 22:15 |
| ochosi | *only* bottom is broken | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | so you can reproduce? | 22:16 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | okay | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | i need to look somehting up | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | hold on a minute | 22:16 |
| ochosi | sure | 22:16 |
| ochosi | i'll fix something else meanwhile | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | bug 1397470 | 22:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1397470 in ubuntu-mate "Bottom Panel Covering Bottom Of Windows (Strut Issue?)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1397470 | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | have a look at that bug | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | and then run the commands in it and pastebin the output for me | 22:18 |
| ochosi | _NET_WORKAREA(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 1920, 1200, 0, 0, 1920, 1200, 0, 0, 1920, 1200 | 22:18 |
| ochosi | _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) = 3200, 1200 | 22:18 |
| ali1234 | hah | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | you have no struts at all | 22:19 |
| ochosi | http://dpaste.com/3YD1R5X | 22:19 |
| ochosi | yeah, the panel is set to intelligent hiding | 22:19 |
| ochosi | consequently, no struts | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | okay so can you somehow make the panel unhide while running those commands? | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | without setting it to never hide of course | 22:20 |
| ochosi | ah sure | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | sleep 5 && command - then move mouse over the bottom of the screen | 22:21 |
| ochosi | it wasn't hidden though | 22:22 |
| ochosi | my terminal window wasn't maximized | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | oh, intelligent? okay | 22:22 |
| ochosi | so with intelligent hiding, the panel is shown | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | so then the problem is that the panel doesn't set struts when it unhides itself | 22:22 |
| ochosi | but still no struts | 22:22 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:22 |
| ochosi | i guess that must be it | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | simples | 22:22 |
| ochosi | i have no idea how to handle that though | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | report a bug :P | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | 13.10 didn't have gtk3 did it? | 22:23 |
| ali1234 | indicators i mean | 22:23 |
| ali1234 | or did it? | 22:23 |
| ochosi | easy, elfy has already done that: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11501 | 22:23 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11501 in General "Panel at bottom, indicator covers panel" [Normal,New] | 22:23 |
| ochosi | no, 14.04 was the first to have gtk3 indicators iirc | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | right, so that's why | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | it's gtk3 again | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | the thing is that the panel shouldn't set struts when it autohides | 22:24 |
| ochosi | hmm | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | it would make all the windows it covers resize (possibly) | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | certainly maximized ones | 22:25 |
| ochosi | thing is, i never touched any of the struts code and didn't test the indicators in all layout positions obviously (when i was fixing intelligent hiding, i mean) | 22:25 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | i mean, autohide panel covers maximized windows right? so it should appear behind menus too | 22:25 |
| ochosi | so how can we work around that then? | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | absolutely no idea | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | i don't think we even should | 22:25 |
| ochosi | the sucky thing is that it works just fine in gtk2 | 22:26 |
| ochosi | i guess i haven't really understood what gtk3 is messing up there | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | they rewrote the menu placement code | 22:26 |
| ochosi | hm, ok | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | i can't even reproduce this but i suspect that if you boot up with the panel set to not autohide, then the struts just stay the way they were always set | 22:26 |
| brainwosh | elfy, should the daily xubuntu trusty image include stuff from -proposed? | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | struts and all the netwm stuff is horrible | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | so badly broken | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | i mean it's quite simple really | 22:27 |
| ochosi | hm, yeah, just tried that (restarted the panel), that didn't work. although i see why it could've | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | too simple really | 22:28 |
| ochosi | so no tricks/hacks we can add to the indicator-plugin to behave more like gtk2? | 22:29 |
| ochosi | (not that i consider this a huge issue, it's actually rather a corner-case) | 22:29 |
| ochosi | so with autohide it works fine for you in 14.04? | 22:30 |
| ali1234 | i wouldn't say fine | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | it is actually too high | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | wait that is because i have two panels on two monitors | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | let me retest | 22:31 |
| ochosi | my first instinct was that it's a regression introduced by intelligent hiding, but then again, no struts code was touched | 22:32 |
| ali1234 | no, it isn't | 22:32 |
| ali1234 | it has always been "broken" | 22:32 |
| ali1234 | it's just that only gtk3 exposes it | 22:33 |
| brainwosh | intelligent hiding in 14.04? | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | actually, considering that it doesn't happen at the top of the screen, all what i just said is most likely bullshit | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | i've got no idea :S | 22:35 |
| brainwosh | ping the indicator guy | 22:36 |
| ali1234 | i could go and start an argument with gtk devs if you want | 22:36 |
| ali1234 | this needs thorough testing inside a VM i think | 22:37 |
| ochosi | hmyeah, i guess so | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | i should make a tool to mangle the struts | 22:37 |
| ochosi | well, frankly i'm not sure it's really worth it | 22:37 |
| brainwosh | you cannot even trigger this bug in unity, because the panel is always visible and placed at the top | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | that way i can throw any nonsense and see what gdk does with it | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | brainwosh: i bet you can | 22:38 |
| ochosi | i hope that we can work towards a gtk3 panel soon | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | if you have multimonitor | 22:38 |
| ochosi | and then we'll have to solve this at the panel level for everything i guess | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | the panel needs a rewrite :( | 22:38 |
| brainwosh | broken things everywhere | 22:38 |
| ochosi | not sure | 22:38 |
| ochosi | brainwosh: everywhere? you really seem to like overstating things | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | argh | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | firefox is going behind my bottom panel now | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | hide: never, reserve space on borders -> struts are still messed up | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | fixed it | 22:40 |
| brainwosh | startup notify stopped working on my desktop (root area), thunar crashed -> "double free or corruption (fasttop), some random X server complete freeze, and many more today | 22:40 |
| ali1234 | someone found out how to reproduce the thunar crash on ascending to parent directory | 22:41 |
| brainwosh | and I'm just using the pc for basic stuff | 22:41 |
| ali1234 | i'm also getting LOADS of flash plugin and firefox crashes | 22:41 |
| ali1234 | and the odd X freeze, probably related to flash/firefox | 22:41 |
| ali1234 | and i'm on 14.04 | 22:41 |
| ali1234 | this distro might have jumped the shark :( | 22:42 |
| brainwosh | remove flash | 22:42 |
| ali1234 | i might install flashblock actually | 22:42 |
| ali1234 | so check this rant: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10725#c13 | 22:43 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10725 in Window Buttons "Setting "Show windows from all monitors" stops working correctly after changing monitor layout" [Normal,New] | 22:43 |
| ali1234 | this can't be fixed without a panel abi break | 22:43 |
| ochosi | yeah, i've seen the report before | 22:44 |
| brainwosh | so much to do | 22:45 |
| ochosi | the only thing i can say is discuss it with nick when he's around | 22:45 |
| ochosi | i'm not touching any of that with a 10-foot pole :) | 22:45 |
| ochosi | ali1234: thanks for adding the comment | 22:49 |
| brainwosh | this looks familiar https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11503 | 22:53 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11503 in Display Settings "xfsettingsd fails to reenable LVDS after opening lid" [Major,New] | 22:53 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
