| StFS | Hi. I have the Plasma 5 packages from the kubuntu-next PPA set up on my Kubuntu 14.10. Those packages haven't been updated since November 2014... anybody here know anything about that repository? | 00:11 |
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| keithzg | StFS: Don't quote me on this, but I've gotten the impression that that was somewhat of a one-off for testing; new packages and development has been more tracked with 15.04 as far as I can tell. | 00:25 |
| StFS | ok... well it certainly seems that way. I just find it a bit weird/frustrating because I was under the impression that I'd be seeing frequent updates. I was ready to handle bugs and instability, but I was hoping that I'd be getting updates and seeing it progressively get better | 00:27 |
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| keithzg | Yeah, I getcha. I had been hoping the same thing, personally, but there's only so much time and effort to go around, unfortunately. | 00:37 |
| StFS | yup :) | 00:37 |
| keithzg | And hey, at this rate 15.04 ain't that far off anyways! | 00:37 |
| StFS | true | 00:37 |
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| valorie | StFS: I've gotten updates | 05:37 |
| valorie | how are you doing updates? | 05:37 |
| valorie | I know there was a glitch of some sort in muon updater | 05:37 |
| valorie | I just do `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` | 05:39 |
| valorie | just got an update today as a matter of fact | 05:39 |
| igorov | hi there | 05:44 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:15 |
| soee | good morning | 07:17 |
| EvilEagle | is there a kde file copy gui/utility more robust than dolphin? i want to copy a bunch of files from a drive that might have bad sectors. so i would like the utility to skip the fails, maybe tray again, and at least report what happened with an opportunity to retry. | 07:18 |
| EvilEagle | trying ultracopier | 07:22 |
| Walex | EvilEagle: that's breathtakingly dumb | 08:22 |
| Walex | EvilEagle: good luck | 08:22 |
| Walex | EvilEagle: you can do that though with various block-level tools, not filesystem-level ones. dd_rescue and sacopy for example | 08:24 |
| Walex | safecopy | 08:24 |
| EvilEagle | i don't need full on rescue, no critical files, just media lots of junk. i just want something that can skip if ther eis a problemanyway, kde says i have to reboot. bbl. | 08:45 |
| StFS | valorie: that's pretty weird... unless you're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking about updates in general... I'm just talking about updates from the kubuntu-next PPA. All the packages there are from November 2014 or earlier (https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next) | 10:22 |
| valorie | StFS: you are right, and I'm wrong | 10:44 |
| valorie | https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu | 10:46 |
| valorie | aha, you have to do a further step for 5.2 according to that page | 10:46 |
| valorie | which I assume I did when it was announced | 10:47 |
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| drawkward | I am learning qt from the book called kde qt programming bible. But it was written at a time when qt was in version 2. should that be a problem now since we have qt 5? | 12:19 |
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| Avihay_work | well, If it's a general programming book in C++/QT, then the knowledge can be transfered to any other language | 12:23 |
| Avihay_work | if it's a QT specific book, then, yhe, probably most of the stuff there is deprecated | 12:23 |
| Avihay_work | Chances are it's the latter case, and you are wasting a lot of time, learning something very out of date, that lived in a different world | 12:25 |
| drawkward | Avihay_work: as a beginner who wants to understand what qt is all about, and the basic classes, should it still be a problem? | 12:26 |
| Avihay_work | are you a beginner programmer, or a beginner to QT? | 12:27 |
| Avihay_work | drawkward: ^ | 12:28 |
| drawkward | Avihay_work: beginner to QT | 12:28 |
| Avihay_work | then, except for maybe the basic containers, string, and other basic stuff, I bet it's all out of date, I'd wager you can get only less then 15% of the example code to run | 12:29 |
| Avihay_work | unmodified | 12:30 |
| alvin | drawkward: There's a more recent book about Qt3. | 12:30 |
| drawkward | alvin: can you tell me its name? | 12:30 |
| alvin | I bought it, didn't actually start learning it, and now we're at Qt5. :-( | 12:30 |
| Avihay_work | I think the model view controller model was introduced later, and effected alot of how QT is written for GUI stuff | 12:31 |
| alvin | Let me think. It's at home. I believe it is just called "learning Qt" | 12:31 |
| Avihay_work | also, I think QT5 drops painter | 12:31 |
| drawkward | woops! | 12:32 |
| Avihay_work | and Widgets are being pushed aside for QML\ | 12:32 |
| drawkward | Avihay_work: ok so i guess i will go with the official qt 5 documentation | 12:33 |
| Avihay_work | or at least something recent and stable like qt4.8 | 12:34 |
| Avihay_work | but, yes, the documentation isn't too bad, and it's a bit more future proof | 12:35 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:00 |
| StFS | valorie: hah! You're right... "For updates to Plasma 5.2, install ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-backports as above." Thanks! I'll do that when I get home :-) | 13:06 |
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| Saverio | Hello there | 13:25 |
| lordievader | Hey Saverio | 13:25 |
| Saverio | sorry to disturb, do you know if in kubuntu is possible to load icc profile (for monitor colour management)? | 13:25 |
| Saverio | I mean using an easy procedure (not to tweak the system from shell) | 13:26 |
| Saverio | As it it possible with gnome settings :P | 13:27 |
| lordievader | Saverio: https://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en | 13:28 |
| lordievader | I suppose that is a start. | 13:28 |
| Saverio | Thanks | 13:29 |
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| kernelpanic_ | hello! What packages do I have to remove from kubuntu-15.04 alpha to convert into ubuntu-server-15.04? I tried "apt-get remove --purge xserver* xorg* kde* kubuntu* kwin*", but I think that was too much :) | 13:56 |
| soee | kubuntu-desktop ? | 13:56 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: That seems about right though. | 13:57 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: But as soee says, removing kubuntu-desktop and running an apt-get autoremove should also do the trick. | 13:57 |
| kernelpanic_ | I think there was no kubuntu-desktop that I could remove. That did work with 14.04, though. | 13:59 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: What do you have now? | 14:00 |
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| kernelpanic_ | lordievader: uhm, what do you mean? | 14:02 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: You said you removed a whole bunch of stuff and though it was too much. So what are you left with? An unbootable system? | 14:03 |
| kernelpanic_ | Ah. Sorry. I installed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso, then issued the apt-get remove above. Now the system starts, but to a black screen. I would expect a text login prompt. And I can get that by pressing ALT+F1, so all is not lost | 14:04 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: Is sddm still installed? | 14:04 |
| kernelpanic_ | and I don't care about this particular install, just want to install kubuntu and then convert to server. Sounds crazy, I know, but its a long story... | 14:05 |
| kernelpanic_ | let me see | 14:05 |
| kernelpanic_ | yes | 14:05 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: Server/mini iso didn't work? | 14:06 |
| kernelpanic_ | server.iso doesn't contain r8152 (ethernet) and sdhci (eMMC storage) modules, so I cannot install to embedded storage. | 14:07 |
| kernelpanic_ | I tried using *u*buntu first, but they now use mir and I don't even know how to open a terminal in this piece of &%$ยง. Thus, I cannot start ubiquity --no-bootloader. WHich I must do, because grub-install fails, as this bay-trail system only has a 32bit efi. Complicated. | 14:08 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: You can say that... | 14:09 |
| kernelpanic_ | feels like I'm almost there though :) | 14:11 |
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| kernelpanic_ | Ok, now I installed kubuntu-14.04.1 successfully, then upgraded to linux 3.18 to handle the efi-mess. Works. Then I did "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop". But that only uninstalled this single package, not hte whole xserver* kde* stuff. How do I get rid of that? | 16:04 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: apt-get autoremove should remove that. | 16:07 |
| kernelpanic_ | lordievader: it does not "0 updated, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 428 not updated" | 16:11 |
| ik_ | hi | 16:14 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: Hmm, so there is some other dependency.. | 16:21 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu | 16:21 |
| dewar | hi, does anyone here know how to install qtilities into kubuntu qcreator/designer?@ | 16:24 |
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| kernelpanic_ | lordievader: uhm, that seems like a hack (and one for 12.10). I tried using "apt-cache --recurse -i rdepends <kdepackage>", but I still don't understand the dependency graph. | 16:34 |
| lordievader | It is, but likely will work. | 16:35 |
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| kernelpanic_ | lordievader: I just tried "tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop". It worked, btut still starts on VT7 instead of VT1. | 16:50 |
| lordievader | kernelpanic_: Append 'text' to your kernel options (dirty workaround, I know). | 16:52 |
| khrokalov | Hey | 18:54 |
| falken | Don't suppose anyone knows why Akregator would be failing to show images when 'Load full website' is on ? | 20:18 |
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| designbybeck | I'm not finding a "Don't go to sleep" mode or the like | 22:05 |
| designbybeck | I see Energy Saving, but not sure if it is what I'm looking for | 22:05 |
| designbybeck | I'don't wan this desktop to go to sleep or anything for the next 24hrs | 22:05 |
| designbybeck | I see Screen Savings, but I want to make sure processes don't sleep/suspend | 22:05 |
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| arthurfiggis | hello! sorry if this gets asked a lot, but i kind of avoided the mainstream ubuntu distribution for similar reasons...what is the "diagnostics" in system settings introduced in 14.04 actually -for-? it apparently sends error reports automatically and if you click on the link in system settings, it brings you to a page with a list of links to the error reports themselves...but you can't actually -read- the error reports, even if you | 23:55 |
| arthurfiggis | have a launchpad account, not unless you agree to an entirely separate legal document :( seems a bit strange... | 23:55 |
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