[00:11] Hi. I have the Plasma 5 packages from the kubuntu-next PPA set up on my Kubuntu 14.10. Those packages haven't been updated since November 2014... anybody here know anything about that repository? [00:25] StFS: Don't quote me on this, but I've gotten the impression that that was somewhat of a one-off for testing; new packages and development has been more tracked with 15.04 as far as I can tell. [00:27] ok... well it certainly seems that way. I just find it a bit weird/frustrating because I was under the impression that I'd be seeing frequent updates. I was ready to handle bugs and instability, but I was hoping that I'd be getting updates and seeing it progressively get better === techmadi is now known as suntears [00:37] Yeah, I getcha. I had been hoping the same thing, personally, but there's only so much time and effort to go around, unfortunately. [00:37] yup :) [00:37] And hey, at this rate 15.04 ain't that far off anyways! [00:37] true === Yukkiino is now known as Yukkii === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz [05:37] StFS: I've gotten updates [05:37] how are you doing updates? [05:37] I know there was a glitch of some sort in muon updater [05:39] I just do `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` [05:39] just got an update today as a matter of fact [05:44] hi there [06:15] Good morning. [07:17] good morning [07:18] is there a kde file copy gui/utility more robust than dolphin? i want to copy a bunch of files from a drive that might have bad sectors. so i would like the utility to skip the fails, maybe tray again, and at least report what happened with an opportunity to retry. [07:22] trying ultracopier [08:22] EvilEagle: that's breathtakingly dumb [08:22] EvilEagle: good luck [08:24] EvilEagle: you can do that though with various block-level tools, not filesystem-level ones. dd_rescue and sacopy for example [08:24] safecopy [08:45] i don't need full on rescue, no critical files, just media lots of junk. i just want something that can skip if ther eis a problemanyway, kde says i have to reboot. bbl. [10:22] valorie: that's pretty weird... unless you're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking about updates in general... I'm just talking about updates from the kubuntu-next PPA. All the packages there are from November 2014 or earlier (https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next) [10:44] StFS: you are right, and I'm wrong [10:46] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu [10:46] aha, you have to do a further step for 5.2 according to that page [10:47] which I assume I did when it was announced === kbroulik_ is now known as kbroulik-lunch [12:19] I am learning qt from the book called kde qt programming bible. But it was written at a time when qt was in version 2. should that be a problem now since we have qt 5? === CyberSix_ is now known as CyberSix === LjL^ is now known as LjL [12:23] well, If it's a general programming book in C++/QT, then the knowledge can be transfered to any other language [12:23] if it's a QT specific book, then, yhe, probably most of the stuff there is deprecated [12:25] Chances are it's the latter case, and you are wasting a lot of time, learning something very out of date, that lived in a different world [12:26] Avihay_work: as a beginner who wants to understand what qt is all about, and the basic classes, should it still be a problem? [12:27] are you a beginner programmer, or a beginner to QT? [12:28] drawkward: ^ [12:28] Avihay_work: beginner to QT [12:29] then, except for maybe the basic containers, string, and other basic stuff, I bet it's all out of date, I'd wager you can get only less then 15% of the example code to run [12:30] unmodified [12:30] drawkward: There's a more recent book about Qt3. [12:30] alvin: can you tell me its name? [12:30] I bought it, didn't actually start learning it, and now we're at Qt5. :-( [12:31] I think the model view controller model was introduced later, and effected alot of how QT is written for GUI stuff [12:31] Let me think. It's at home. I believe it is just called "learning Qt" [12:31] also, I think QT5 drops painter [12:32] woops! [12:32] and Widgets are being pushed aside for QML\ [12:33] Avihay_work: ok so i guess i will go with the official qt 5 documentation [12:34] or at least something recent and stable like qt4.8 [12:35] but, yes, the documentation isn't too bad, and it's a bit more future proof === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === drawkward is now known as DrAwkward [13:00] Hiyas all [13:06] valorie: hah! You're right... "For updates to Plasma 5.2, install ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-backports as above." Thanks! I'll do that when I get home :-) === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [13:25] Hello there [13:25] Hey Saverio [13:25] sorry to disturb, do you know if in kubuntu is possible to load icc profile (for monitor colour management)? [13:26] I mean using an easy procedure (not to tweak the system from shell) [13:27] As it it possible with gnome settings :P [13:28] Saverio: https://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en [13:28] I suppose that is a start. [13:29] Thanks === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [13:56] hello! What packages do I have to remove from kubuntu-15.04 alpha to convert into ubuntu-server-15.04? I tried "apt-get remove --purge xserver* xorg* kde* kubuntu* kwin*", but I think that was too much :) [13:56] kubuntu-desktop ? [13:57] kernelpanic_: That seems about right though. [13:57] kernelpanic_: But as soee says, removing kubuntu-desktop and running an apt-get autoremove should also do the trick. [13:59] I think there was no kubuntu-desktop that I could remove. That did work with 14.04, though. [14:00] kernelpanic_: What do you have now? === julien is now known as Guest55131 === julien_ is now known as Guest40266 [14:02] lordievader: uhm, what do you mean? [14:03] kernelpanic_: You said you removed a whole bunch of stuff and though it was too much. So what are you left with? An unbootable system? [14:04] Ah. Sorry. I installed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso, then issued the apt-get remove above. Now the system starts, but to a black screen. I would expect a text login prompt. And I can get that by pressing ALT+F1, so all is not lost [14:04] kernelpanic_: Is sddm still installed? [14:05] and I don't care about this particular install, just want to install kubuntu and then convert to server. Sounds crazy, I know, but its a long story... [14:05] let me see [14:05] yes [14:06] kernelpanic_: Server/mini iso didn't work? [14:07] server.iso doesn't contain r8152 (ethernet) and sdhci (eMMC storage) modules, so I cannot install to embedded storage. [14:08] I tried using *u*buntu first, but they now use mir and I don't even know how to open a terminal in this piece of &%$§. Thus, I cannot start ubiquity --no-bootloader. WHich I must do, because grub-install fails, as this bay-trail system only has a 32bit efi. Complicated. [14:09] kernelpanic_: You can say that... [14:11] feels like I'm almost there though :) === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === tron is now known as Guest97000 === sito is now known as cm2 === David1977 is now known as Guest6276 [16:04] Ok, now I installed kubuntu-14.04.1 successfully, then upgraded to linux 3.18 to handle the efi-mess. Works. Then I did "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop". But that only uninstalled this single package, not hte whole xserver* kde* stuff. How do I get rid of that? [16:07] kernelpanic_: apt-get autoremove should remove that. [16:11] lordievader: it does not "0 updated, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 428 not updated" [16:14] hi [16:21] kernelpanic_: Hmm, so there is some other dependency.. [16:21] kernelpanic_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu [16:24] hi, does anyone here know how to install qtilities into kubuntu qcreator/designer?@ === tin is now known as Guest16599 [16:34] lordievader: uhm, that seems like a hack (and one for 12.10). I tried using "apt-cache --recurse -i rdepends ", but I still don't understand the dependency graph. [16:35] It is, but likely will work. === sito is now known as cm2 [16:50] lordievader: I just tried "tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop". It worked, btut still starts on VT7 instead of VT1. [16:52] kernelpanic_: Append 'text' to your kernel options (dirty workaround, I know). [18:54] Hey [20:18] Don't suppose anyone knows why Akregator would be failing to show images when 'Load full website' is on ? === Adapter_ is now known as looser === jeanbaptiste is now known as Jeanbaptiste_atw === kubuntu is now known as Guest38848 === spock is now known as Guest88612 [22:05] I'm not finding a "Don't go to sleep" mode or the like [22:05] I see Energy Saving, but not sure if it is what I'm looking for [22:05] I'don't wan this desktop to go to sleep or anything for the next 24hrs [22:05] I see Screen Savings, but I want to make sure processes don't sleep/suspend === Anoniem4l_ is now known as Anoniem4l [23:55] hello! sorry if this gets asked a lot, but i kind of avoided the mainstream ubuntu distribution for similar reasons...what is the "diagnostics" in system settings introduced in 14.04 actually -for-? it apparently sends error reports automatically and if you click on the link in system settings, it brings you to a page with a list of links to the error reports themselves...but you can't actually -read- the error reports, even if you [23:55] have a launchpad account, not unless you agree to an entirely separate legal document :( seems a bit strange...