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ahoneybundo you all use just Ubuntu to develop or are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME?04:28
dholbachgood morning08:12
dholbachballoons, so for the weather branch, we might have to ask somebody from the landing team or anyone who's helping with build system stuff in apps - I can't help - I just noticed that this branch had been lying around for a while08:19
dholbachpopey, did you see docviewer fail to build on LP too somewhere?08:28
popeydholbach: re-branching.08:28
popeybah, now it's building!08:29
dholbachyeeehaw!08:29
popeyaha!08:29
popeyE: ubuntu-docviewer-app source: build-depends-on-metapackage build-depends: qt5-default08:29
dholbachI'm not sure that would cause a build failure, but I can take a look at fixing the lintian stuff if you want08:30
popeyyeah, I get a deb out08:31
dholbachpopey, do you know how we tell the docviewer which file to open?08:39
dholbachin the .desktop file in the Exec key, we just use the app binary, but don't use a parameter like %f, %F or something like that (http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#exec-variables)08:39
dholbach^ that was one of lintian's complaints08:40
dholbachpopey, in pbuilder something bizarre happens08:44
popeyit uses content hub08:44
popeyalso, its failing in jenkins08:44
popeyhttp://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-vivid/981/consoleFull08:44
dholbachsome files are installed to some bizarre places08:44
dholbach-- Installing: /tmp/buildd/ubuntu-docviewer-app-0.1.1/debian/tmp/com/ubuntu/fileqmlplugin/libfileqmlplugin.so08:44
dholbachwhereas other files go into:08:44
dholbach-- Installing: /tmp/buildd/ubuntu-docviewer-app-0.1.1/debian/tmp/usr/share/ubuntu-docviewer-app/qml/TextView.qml08:44
popeyerk08:44
dholbachnot sure why this doesn't happen in a normal, local build08:45
dholbachbut I'm taking a look08:45
popeythanks dholbach08:45
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dholbachpopey, this whole cmake infrastructure isn't really plug-and-play08:58
popeydholbach: haha!09:01
dholbachI'm just comparing it with filemanager, which also builds a plugin and seems to be fine09:01
dholbachmaybe I'll find something09:01
popeydid anyone else on the ubuntu-phone list get this mail https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10972.html ?09:05
popeyI didn't09:06
dholbachI did09:06
popeyhmmm09:07
popeybzoltan: zbenjamin maybe you can help Phil? https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10972.html ?09:08
bzoltanpopey:  wow.. that is a massive one.09:11
zbenjaminpopey: seems for the me mail got into the junk folder09:11
popeyoh, look at that, it's in my spam too!09:12
dholbachpopey, isn't it great that instead of typing "dynamic duo", you can just "bz<tab> zb<tab>"?09:12
popeyhaha09:13
popeyWHOOOOSH!09:13
popeyThey appear.09:13
popeyI like to think of zbenjamin wearing a cape09:13
zbenjaminlol09:13
dholbachright, I'll leave you to it! :)09:13
timpzbenjamin: ARE you wearing a cape?09:17
zbenjamintimp: only :D09:17
timpOk I shouldn't have asked ;)09:17
timpNow I wonder what color is the cape ;)09:18
zbenjamintimp: camouflage of course09:18
timpDesert it jungle?09:19
timp*or09:20
zbenjamintimp: it has both, i can turn it around :D09:20
zbenjaminso i can quickly adapt09:20
timphahaha. That sounds like an awesome cape :)09:21
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dholbachpopey, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-docviewer-app/packaging-fixes2/+merge/24851709:33
dholbachthat makes it build for me in pbuilder and locally09:33
dholbachand "no idea why"09:33
popeyhah09:34
* popey hugs dholbach 09:34
* popey tests09:34
popeydholbach: should I still expect to get a bunch of lintian warnings and an error?09:36
dholbachyes, I didn't fix all of them09:36
popeyok09:36
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Thank A Mailman Day! :-D09:37
bzoltandholbach: I hired zbenjamin mostly because of his name :)09:37
dholbachpopey, if you want to file bugs or give the developers more context, this might help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10050802/09:38
bzoltandholbach: by the way .. the new Ubuntu SDK is out ... I wrote an exceptional long mail about it09:38
dholbachpopey, ^I guess we should promote that a bit, or maybe get it on the blog?09:39
dholbachhum, where did you send it again?09:39
dholbachit's not https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10782.html - right?09:40
bzoltandholbach:  no, it is not that09:40
bzoltandholbach: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10973.html09:41
dholbachah now09:42
dholbachbzoltan, nice!09:43
dholbachbzoltan, yesterday in the Q&A somebody asked about multi arch09:44
dholbachI haven't followed that part of the story... has that gotten any easier in the last time?09:45
bzoltandholbach:  do you mean the fat package topic? That did not move anywhere yet. It is a big issue with lots of questionmarks.09:56
dholbachbzoltan, who would we need to remove some of the question marks? :)09:57
bzoltandholbach: click folks, foundation  folks .. me, zbenjamin09:58
dholbachmaybe we could have a hangout-on-air session about it?09:58
bzoltandholbach:  I need to recollect my thoughts about this... we talked about fat packages about a half a year ago09:58
dholbachok09:59
mihirhey popey10:08
popeybzoltan: I was talking to Stephen Webb at the weekend about this. He is very keen for people to be able to install desktop apps from the store on Ubuntu Desktop Next10:08
popeymihir: heya10:08
mihirpopey: did you ask UX people to test calendar ?10:08
mihirI meant at design prospective ?10:08
popeymihir: yeah, will see what feedback they have.10:08
popeymihir: will let you know10:08
mihirOkay great  :)10:08
popeybzoltan: the sdk not supporting making fat packages is a problem for that because many apps in the store are armhf only10:09
bzoltanpopey: I know it is a valid use case and I know it is something what lots of people want.10:10
popey:)10:10
bzoltanpopey:  it is about how we should implement that feature ... not an easy one.10:10
bzoltanpopey:  do we expect click to merge armhf/x86 packages?10:11
bzoltanpopey: The QtCreator has no feature to execute two builds for a single request ... it would be a massive hack to work it around in the IDE10:12
popeyThe way I'd see it is that qtc should know what arch kits I have, and at the time of building clicks, should offer me the option of whether to build fat or not10:12
bzoltanpopey: that part is easy ... but what after. Yes we want a fat package.. what then?10:12
popeywell, you already have the ability to update each kit sequentially10:12
popeyhey, that's your job :)10:13
bzoltanpopey: updating kits and using the QtC's very-very own Build/Run configs are not the same10:13
popeyI don't doubt it's not "easy", but if we don't do it, we're never going to really deliver convergence10:13
bzoltanpopey: I know.. that is why I would be happy to see click developers being involved too. Because I think this problem should be solved on the click level and not on the UI level10:14
popeysure, an option in click to do this would be great.10:15
bzoltanpopey:  for example we could/should have multiarch click chroots. Like twin chroots... and click should use both or either10:15
popeybut I dont want this to fall in the gap between sdk and click10:15
popeywhich it currently is10:15
bzoltanpopey:  the current situation is that no tool under the IDE supports it ... click does not even guarantee that the armhf and the i386 chroots are in sync10:16
dholbachpopey, can I approve https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-docviewer-app/packaging-fixes2/+merge/248517 now, or does something else need to be done to it? will that auto-land the change?10:16
bzoltanpopey:  but this feature is on my plate ... I just say that it is a massive one10:16
popeydholbach: i top approved it10:17
popeyit will land, thanks :)(10:17
dholbachpopey, thanks10:17
dholbachpopey, also... I ran into http://paste.ubuntu.com/10051228/10:17
popeyugh10:18
dholbachcould it be that some package is missing in the ppa or somewhere?10:18
popeythe weather app builds that10:18
dholbachbizarre10:20
popeywell, i think it does...10:20
dholbachit should at least10:20
popeyah, this is the new weather app10:20
dholbachwhich branch is that?10:21
popeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-weather-dev/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot10:21
dholbachI was just looking at https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-weather-dev/ubuntu-weather-app/trunk/view/head:/debian/control10:21
dholbachwhich seemed to build that package :)10:22
popeyi am confused10:22
dholbachthe one I linked to is the old branch I guess10:22
popeyyes10:22
dholbachah yes10:23
dholbachI can see the issue10:23
dholbachlet me look at it for a bit longer to see if there's anything else that needs fixing10:23
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dholbachpopey, right, so it looks like none of the files are installed anywhere10:28
dholbachapart from the dependency issue10:28
popey:(10:31
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bzoltanpopey: dholbach: Okey ... we had a quick brainstorming with zbenjamin.. do not bother with details :) the sum is that we will just do it.10:42
dholbachbzoltan, go go go!10:42
bzoltanpopey: dholbach: the schedule comes later, but for sure it will land on 15.0410:42
dholbachgreat :)10:42
popeybzoltan: \o/10:50
popeyThe Dynamic Duo strike again!10:50
* zbenjamin imagines bzoltan as Robin :D10:53
bzoltanzbenjamin: have a break dude :D10:54
zbenjaminrofl10:54
dholbachpopey, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-packaging-fixes/+merge/248528 - I don't know if that fixes everything or if that's the way things were intended, but at least the package can be installed and the app can be launched (doesn't do much yet)11:03
popeythanks!11:04
bzoltandholbach:  popey: how is a fat package called. Arch specific packages have the arch in the .click file name. How it goes with fat packages?11:18
popey_multi.click11:18
dholbachyep11:18
popeye.g. http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/02/2015-02-04-050001/com.ubuntu.checkbox_1.0.2_multi.click11:19
popeyhttp://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_clicks.png vs http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_snaps.png11:19
popey:)11:19
popey(ignore the alarming dips in the click one)11:19
bzoltanpopey:  Okey, that is easy11:22
bzoltanpopey:  I am writing up the feature specs and will send it out to me ML today11:23
popeynice one!11:23
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kalikianatimp: updated https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/i18nctag/+merge/24826012:11
zsombihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/141597312:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 1415973 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "./build_paths.inc: No such file or directory" [Critical,New]12:14
mivoligomzanetti: ping12:15
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mzanettimivoligo: pong12:26
mivoligomzanetti: hi, seen the tutorial thing?12:27
mzanettimivoligo: not really looked at it yet12:27
mivoligook12:27
mzanettimivoligo: I'm at a sprint atm12:27
mivoligomzanetti: ack, getting ready for that bq phone show I guess :)12:28
mzanettimivoligo: heh, maybe, maybe not12:30
mzanetti:P12:30
mivoligo:D12:30
popeyhaha12:31
mivoligomzanetti: ok, so I won't be bothering you now :)12:31
mzanettino worries12:31
mzanettiI do have time for a chat, but can't really *work* on the game this week12:31
mivoligomzanetti: I was trying to check the authenticator app you told me, unfortunately it complained about missing things12:33
mzanettiright...12:33
mivoligomzanetti: let me check what was that12:33
mzanettimivoligo: today I looked at it again and actually it's not *that* bad...12:33
mzanettiit probably is libzbar12:33
mzanettipopey: what's your opinion on the authenticator visuals?12:34
mzanettidoes it suck? or is it okayish, or do you even like it?12:34
popeyi dont use it much as I am usually near my laptop12:34
mivoligomzanetti: oath.h: no such file or directory12:34
mzanettiah12:35
mzanettiapt-get install liboath-dev12:35
renatuseb128, hey, are you around?12:35
mivoligomzanetti: now "zbar.h"12:36
mzanettilibzbar-dev12:36
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mivoligomzanetti: now "cannot find -lv4l2"12:38
mzanettilibv4l-dev :P12:38
mzanettisee the pattern?12:39
mivoligo:D12:39
mivoligomzanetti: now it started :)12:39
mzanetti\o/12:39
mzanettiso there is a bug in the SDK that the header's separator is black on black12:40
mzanettiI've reported that, I think timp will fix it at some point as he agrees with it12:40
mzanettimivoligo: you can manually add a new account, just enter 16 random hex characters for the key12:41
t1mpmzanetti: which bug was it?12:41
mzanettimivoligo: make sure to test a time based and a counter based account12:41
mzanettit1mp: lemme look it up12:41
mzanettit1mp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/140864312:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 1408643 in Ubuntu UX "Header divider is invisible on very dark backgrounds" [High,Triaged]12:43
t1mpmzanetti: ok. I set its importance so the time I'm picking a bug from my list the chances are higher that I notice this one12:48
mzanetti:)12:48
mzanettithanks12:48
mzanettiI didn't mean to be pushy about it. just told mivoligo that this is the reason why there isn't any header separator visible in authenticator atm12:48
mivoligomzanetti: the app does not look that bad for what it does :)12:49
mzanettiyeah... not sure why I disliked it so much when I looked at it last week12:50
mzanettitoday I don't think it's that bad any more :D12:50
mivoligomzanetti: anyway I'd wait with modifications until Canonical designer show us new design guidelines12:52
mzanettioh, new design guidelines?12:53
mzanettiyeah, if that's the case, sounds sensible12:53
mivoligomzanetti: https://plus.google.com/111433112841080263317/posts/2viht7w9CZ112:55
mivoligomzanetti: it suppose to be ready "in early March"12:56
mzanettii c12:57
mivoligomzanetti: are you going to that bq phone premiere?12:58
mzanettiI didn't get an invitation to go to london for the weekend like some others apparently did, if it's that what you mean12:59
mivoligotoo bad, you could steal one phone for me ;)13:00
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sverzegnassipopey: docviewer MP still doesn't work. it's surely related to qt-private imports13:22
popeyHmm. dholbach are you able to help sverzegnassi with the docviewer packaging?13:23
dholbachI don't know13:23
dholbachbut I'm sort of running out of time on another thing13:23
dholbachwhich branch - is there bug open? build logs?13:24
dholbachI can try to solve it quickly13:24
popeysverzegnassi: ^13:26
sverzegnassidholbach: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10053511/13:27
sverzegnassibranch is: https://code.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-docviewer-app/20-enable-zoom/+merge/24816113:27
dholbachsverzegnassi, so building and installing the package from that branch doesn't work?13:29
sverzegnassiyeah, it seems like13:31
dholbachok13:31
dholbachsverzegnassi, it works for me13:34
dholbachsudo dpkg -i ubuntu-docviewer*.deb13:34
dholbachdone13:34
dholbachmaybe pitti or jibel in #ubuntu-quality can find out what's happening on jenkins?13:36
dholbachI see that the issue is on http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-vivid/988/console13:36
dholbachbut I can't reproduce it13:36
dholbachmaybe some missing ppa?!13:36
dholbach*shrug*13:36
sverzegnassidholbach: on my pc (utopic-desktop, used for docviewer development) the package doesn't work13:38
dholbachI'm on vivid - there it works13:38
dholbachhm13:38
sverzegnassiif i'm not wrong, utopic still uses qt 5.213:38
dholbachpopey, can somebody of the SDK guys maybe help there? ^13:40
dholbachI really don't know - it works for me on vivid13:40
popeyok13:42
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dholbachthanks13:45
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad, o/13:59
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, oh hey hows it going?13:59
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad, Good thank, and you? I have been away recently with an illness but I am back now :)13:59
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, good. made a big step towards the autopilot plugin.14:00
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad, I did see that, awesome work! :D14:00
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, thanks :-)14:01
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad, I have been trying my hardest to get my app working on Ubuntu touch and it doens't work. It passes the automatic tests and gets uploaded to the store but it doesn't get past the loading screen. It really sucks.14:03
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, interesting. What app is it?14:03
DS-McGuireA golf score card app, it is nothing fancy at all. http://i.imgur.com/LfPBhBa.png14:05
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, very nice :) havn't seen it on the subreddit yet though :P14:06
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad, Well, I would have posted it to it if it worked, I don't see any point otherwise. I suppose I could ask for help on their and upload the code to GitHub.14:07
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, if its not booting; you definitely want to bring it up with those doing automatic tests14:08
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, if they can find the problem, they can either do a new test or fix whatever bug that is there.14:08
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad, That's a very good point. I will do that. Any idea who I need to be talking to? popey, any idea?14:10
DS-McGuirepopey, Very sorry didn't know you are on air.14:10
sverzegnassipopey: it seems that the issue is fixed. just missing some fix for autopilot and the MP is ready14:11
popeysverzegnassi: yay!14:16
sverzegnassiUpdated the branches... waiting for Jenkins response14:17
mivoligohow to add emulator in SDK in 14.04?14:21
mivoligowhen I click the "+" button in "Devices" I get: QQmlComponent: Component is not ready PopupUtils.open(): Failed to create the popup object.14:23
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mivoligonevermind, terminal to the rescue :)14:39
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