| darkxst | md5 link for Ubuntu GNOME trusty 14.04.2 i386 on iso tracker is pointing to vivid/amd64 can someone fix that? | 00:18 |
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| darkxst | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds/88800/downloads | 00:18 |
| ochosi | hey everyone, i hope this is the right channel for what i'm going to ask | 08:02 |
| ochosi | i'm the xubuntu project lead and we just started testing 14.04.2 and that looks like a royal mess | 08:02 |
| ochosi | lots of stuff gets pulled in that shouldn't, (gnome stuff, qt stuff, unity stuff), we really can't release that as is | 08:03 |
| ochosi | any idea what we can do about this? | 08:03 |
| ochosi | not sure what causes this horrific dependency chain, 14.04.1 was fine so i presume SRU | 08:04 |
| darkxst | ochosi, you can find out was is causing things to be pulled in from the germinate logs | 08:14 |
| darkxst | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.trusty/ | 08:14 |
| ochosi | darkxst: hm, i've never seen those before, how would i go about weeding through those most efficiently? or just one by one? | 08:15 |
| Laney | ochosi: example of something bad? | 08:20 |
| ochosi | gnome-control-center, gnome-screensaver, xscreensaver, libqt5*, indicator-datetime, indicator-session, gnome-power-manager etc | 08:21 |
| ochosi | ibus | 08:21 |
| ochosi | (note: we don't install ibus, xscreensaver or indicator-keyboard in trusty) | 08:21 |
| ochosi | Laney: there's also unity-control-center, unity-greeter and unity-settings-daemon, in case that sounds more interesting to you ;) | 08:48 |
| darkxst | ochosi, you find the packages that are incorrectly pulled in via rdepends folder | 08:48 |
| Laney | Give me 10 minute then I'll see if I can make some sense of it | 08:48 |
| darkxst | for eg http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.trusty/rdepends/xscreensaver/xscreensaver | 08:48 |
| Laney | but yes, rdepends/<package>/ should give hints | 08:49 |
| ochosi | Laney: thanks, sure, i'll stick around! | 08:49 |
| ochosi | thanks for the hints, guys | 08:50 |
| ochosi | and sorry for being a bit lost here, i'm usually not dealing with packaging at all | 08:50 |
| ochosi | just trying to make some sense of it since 14.04.2 is not very far away | 08:51 |
| darkxst | ochosi, did you ask Jackson? | 08:52 |
| ochosi | not yet | 08:52 |
| * Noskcaj jackson? | 08:52 | |
| darkxst | yes | 08:52 |
| darkxst | ochosi, he is good with these things | 08:52 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: better read up on the backlog ^ ;) | 08:52 |
| Noskcaj | sigh | 08:52 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, So check seeds + germinate for what is adding this? I'll take a look in the morning, if we can delay that long. | 08:54 |
| ochosi | afaik release is in two days or so | 08:54 |
| ochosi | so yeah, you be the judge of whether that is do-able | 08:57 |
| ochosi | but my guess is that we have to find/fix the culprit/s asap | 08:57 |
| Noskcaj | then math homework can be done some other time, i'll look now | 08:59 |
| Noskcaj | I've not got time to make sense of it tonight, hopefully i can get some fixed tomorrow | 09:09 |
| Noskcaj | Which germinate output can we not have the stuff in? | 09:10 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: i hope you're not asking me, cause i have no clue what you mean | 09:12 |
| Noskcaj | I'm asking whoever knows | 09:12 |
| ochosi | Laney: i presume you didn't get anywhere, right? | 10:23 |
| Laney | ochosi: sorry got distracted writing a wrapper for gnome-terminal, lemme see | 10:27 |
| ochosi | ah sure, no problem. and thanks! | 10:28 |
| ochosi | any help is much appreciated | 10:29 |
| infinity | ochosi: stgraber and I have notes on what needs hinting/fixing for the flavours, we'll bang out some fixes and see how they work. | 10:36 |
| ochosi | infinity: oh great! | 10:37 |
| ochosi | well i guess for us so far it's mostly the dependency mess | 10:37 |
| ochosi | we've ran a few tests and those seem to be responsible for all regressions | 10:37 |
| infinity | ochosi: It's a similar mess to what I had to fix for Unity-using flavours already, just needs a bit of hinting in livecd-rootfs. | 10:37 |
| ochosi | oh good | 10:38 |
| ochosi | infinity: would you mind pinging me if you fix that? | 10:43 |
| infinity | ochosi: Will do. | 11:34 |
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| jibel | infinity, there is a problem on 14.04.2 bug 1417792 | 13:16 |
| ubot93 | bug 1417792 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Trusty proposed updates enabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417792 | 13:16 |
| jibel | infinity, confirmed on a fresh install of desktop i386 | 13:16 |
| jibel | clearly not a problem with software-properties but I am not where this bug belongs to | 13:21 |
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| elfy | infinity: do you know whether we (xubuntu) will get an image that we can rebuild then test before tomorrow and have a fighting chance at marking it ready? | 17:06 |
| wxl | folks, do you have any clue what's going on here? even our developer doesn't know https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1417784 | 17:48 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1417784 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "xserver-xorg-input drivers incomplete from some Lubuntu 14.04.2 manifests" [High,Triaged] | 17:48 |
| bdmurray | infinity: bug 1417792 seems important | 18:03 |
| ubot93 | bug 1417792 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Trusty proposed updates enabled by default" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417792 | 18:03 |
| mlankhorst | does the lts-utopic iso build? :P | 18:09 |
| jibel | davmor2, is confirming bug 1418109 and bug 1418105 on 14.04.1 to check if they are regressions | 18:13 |
| ubot93 | bug 1418109 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: OEM mode user password dialog box is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418109 | 18:13 |
| ubot93 | bug 1418105 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: testing .2 the oem session on i386 leaves the oem wifi password in place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418105 | 18:13 |
| jibel | infinity, ^ | 18:13 |
| davmor2 | jibel: technically I'm downloading the image now to confirm it and going for tea :) | 18:17 |
| bdmurray | arges: If you could leave a bit for timo for tomorrow that'd be great | 18:38 |
| arges | bdmurray: sure, when are you normally doing training | 18:38 |
| bdmurray | arges: tomorrow morning should be the last session | 18:39 |
| arges | bdmurray: ok, i'll call it a day now. should be plenty to do tomorrow | 18:40 |
| arges | (well with SRUs at least) | 18:40 |
| bdmurray | arges: okay, thanks! | 18:40 |
| tjaalton | bdmurray: I should be available around this time tomorrow | 18:41 |
| bdmurray | tjaalton: sounds good | 18:43 |
| * wxl sighs | 18:43 | |
| davmor2 | cyphermox, jibel: good and bad news. Good it's present in 14.04.1, bad it's present in 14.04.1 :) | 19:21 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: still the oem bug right? | 19:22 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: both of the oem bugs | 19:22 |
| cyphermox | both? | 19:22 |
| davmor2 | bug 1418109 and bug 1418105 | 19:22 |
| ubot93 | bug 1418109 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: OEM mode user password dialog box is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418109 | 19:22 |
| ubot93 | bug 1418105 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: testing .2 the oem session on i386 leaves the oem wifi password in place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418105 | 19:22 |
| cyphermox | I ahve 1418109 | 19:22 |
| cyphermox | ok good | 19:22 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: don't know why your happy it's all your fault ;) | 19:23 |
| cyphermox | of course ;) | 19:24 |
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