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darkxstmd5 link for Ubuntu GNOME trusty 14.04.2 i386 on iso tracker is pointing to vivid/amd64 can someone fix that?00:18
darkxsthttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds/88800/downloads00:18
ochosihey everyone, i hope this is the right channel for what i'm going to ask08:02
ochosii'm the xubuntu project lead and we just started testing 14.04.2 and that looks like a royal mess08:02
ochosilots of stuff gets pulled in that shouldn't, (gnome stuff, qt stuff, unity stuff), we really can't release that as is08:03
ochosiany idea what we can do about this?08:03
ochosinot sure what causes this horrific dependency chain, 14.04.1 was fine so i presume SRU08:04
darkxstochosi, you can find out was is causing things to be pulled in from the germinate logs08:14
darkxsthttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.trusty/08:14
ochosidarkxst: hm, i've never seen those before, how would i go about weeding through those most efficiently? or just one by one?08:15
Laneyochosi: example of something bad?08:20
ochosignome-control-center, gnome-screensaver, xscreensaver, libqt5*, indicator-datetime, indicator-session, gnome-power-manager etc08:21
ochosiibus08:21
ochosi(note: we don't install ibus, xscreensaver or indicator-keyboard in trusty)08:21
ochosiLaney: there's also unity-control-center, unity-greeter and unity-settings-daemon, in case that sounds more interesting to you ;)08:48
darkxstochosi, you find the packages that are incorrectly pulled in via rdepends folder08:48
LaneyGive me 10 minute then I'll see if I can make some sense of it08:48
darkxstfor eg http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.trusty/rdepends/xscreensaver/xscreensaver08:48
Laneybut yes, rdepends/<package>/ should give hints08:49
ochosiLaney: thanks, sure, i'll stick around!08:49
ochosithanks for the hints, guys08:50
ochosiand sorry for being a bit lost here, i'm usually not dealing with packaging at all08:50
ochosijust trying to make some sense of it since 14.04.2 is not very far away08:51
darkxstochosi, did you ask Jackson?08:52
ochosinot yet08:52
* Noskcaj jackson?08:52
darkxstyes08:52
darkxstochosi, he is good with these things08:52
ochosiNoskcaj: better read up on the backlog ^ ;)08:52
Noskcajsigh08:52
Noskcajochosi, So check seeds + germinate for what is adding this? I'll take a look in the morning, if we can delay that long.08:54
ochosiafaik release is in two days or so08:54
ochosiso yeah, you be the judge of whether that is do-able08:57
ochosibut my guess is that we have to find/fix the culprit/s asap08:57
Noskcajthen math homework can be done some other time, i'll look now08:59
NoskcajI've not got time to make sense of it tonight, hopefully i can get some fixed tomorrow09:09
NoskcajWhich germinate output can we not have the stuff in?09:10
ochosiNoskcaj: i hope you're not asking me, cause i have no clue what you mean09:12
NoskcajI'm asking whoever knows09:12
ochosiLaney: i presume you didn't get anywhere, right?10:23
Laneyochosi: sorry got distracted writing a wrapper for gnome-terminal, lemme see10:27
ochosiah sure, no problem. and thanks!10:28
ochosiany help is much appreciated10:29
infinityochosi: stgraber and I have notes on what needs hinting/fixing for the flavours, we'll bang out some fixes and see how they work.10:36
ochosiinfinity: oh great!10:37
ochosiwell i guess for us so far it's mostly the dependency mess10:37
ochosiwe've ran a few tests and those seem to be responsible for all regressions10:37
infinityochosi: It's a similar mess to what I had to fix for Unity-using flavours already, just needs a bit of hinting in livecd-rootfs.10:37
ochosioh good10:38
ochosiinfinity: would you mind pinging me if you fix that?10:43
infinityochosi: Will do.11:34
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jibelinfinity, there is a problem on 14.04.2 bug 141779213:16
ubot93bug 1417792 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Trusty proposed updates enabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141779213:16
jibelinfinity, confirmed on a fresh install of desktop i38613:16
jibelclearly not a problem with software-properties but I am not where this bug belongs to13:21
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elfyinfinity: do you know whether we (xubuntu) will get an image that we can rebuild then test before tomorrow and have a fighting chance at marking it ready?17:06
wxlfolks, do you have any clue what's going on here? even our developer doesn't know https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/141778417:48
ubot93Launchpad bug 1417784 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "xserver-xorg-input drivers incomplete from some Lubuntu 14.04.2 manifests" [High,Triaged]17:48
bdmurrayinfinity: bug 1417792 seems important18:03
ubot93bug 1417792 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Trusty proposed updates enabled by default" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141779218:03
mlankhorstdoes the lts-utopic iso build? :P18:09
jibeldavmor2, is confirming bug 1418109 and bug 1418105 on 14.04.1 to check if they are regressions18:13
ubot93bug 1418109 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: OEM mode user password dialog box is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141810918:13
ubot93bug 1418105 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: testing .2 the oem session on i386 leaves the oem wifi password in place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141810518:13
jibelinfinity, ^18:13
davmor2jibel: technically I'm downloading the image now to confirm it and going for tea :)18:17
bdmurrayarges: If you could leave a bit for timo for tomorrow that'd be great18:38
argesbdmurray: sure, when are you normally doing training18:38
bdmurrayarges: tomorrow morning should be the last session18:39
argesbdmurray: ok, i'll call it a day now. should be plenty to do tomorrow18:40
arges(well with SRUs at least)18:40
bdmurrayarges: okay, thanks!18:40
tjaaltonbdmurray: I should be available around this time tomorrow18:41
bdmurraytjaalton: sounds good18:43
* wxl sighs18:43
davmor2cyphermox, jibel: good and bad news.  Good it's present in 14.04.1, bad it's present in 14.04.1 :)19:21
cyphermoxdavmor2: still the oem bug right?19:22
davmor2cyphermox: both of the oem bugs19:22
cyphermoxboth?19:22
davmor2bug 1418109 and bug 141810519:22
ubot93bug 1418109 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: OEM mode user password dialog box is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141810919:22
ubot93bug 1418105 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Trusty: testing .2 the oem session on i386 leaves the oem wifi password in place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141810519:22
cyphermoxI ahve 141810919:22
cyphermoxok good19:22
davmor2cyphermox: don't know why your happy it's all your fault ;)19:23
cyphermoxof course ;)19:24

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