=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [01:06] Good morning, could someone please instruct me how I can install additinoal apps on my Touch device. I am running Ubuntu 14.04 r303 on a Nexus 4 using the android dualboot installer. [01:06] . [01:47] antques, you can install apps from the click store, which you can get to at the bottom of the apps scope [01:47] antques, not sure what 14.04 r303 means though [01:48] if it's a build based on 14.04, that's really old [01:48] I have tried that. But swiping up from the buttom doesn't do anything. [01:48] not up from the bottom [01:48] When I click system settings that is the OS it tells me I am running [01:48] how long ago did you flash it? [01:49] a week ago. But I did it using the Android dual boot ap on the Android play store [01:49] not sure what channel that pulls from [01:49] but sounds like a pretty old one [01:49] i've never used dual boot, so can't help [01:49] i'd suggest running something from 15.04 though [01:49] It says it was last updated 2015-01-23 [01:50] antques, look at the OS build details page in system-settings [01:51] should say what branch it's from [01:51] mine is vivid development branch, for example [01:51] which latest for n4 is 15.04 r88 [01:52] About this phone --> OS Ubuntu 14.04 (r303) Last updated 2015-01-23 [01:52] If I try and use the updates button. It downloads some stuff and then just fails to install the updates [01:54] :/ [01:54] antques, yeah that's a very very very old build [01:54] okay sure. I just don't know how to update the images [01:54] i know nothing about the dual boot setup, is there a way to select what channel to use? [01:55] actuall here is suggests I have to un-install the image and look for a new one [01:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation [01:55] I might try that [01:55] yeah, that's probably your best bet [01:55] okay. Ill give that a go. thanks for your time [01:55] or just whack android and go all ubuntu :) [01:56] np [01:56] I'd be happy to if the spotify app worked when the device screen was shut off [01:56] yeah, that's not likely :/ [01:56] doh :-/ [01:56] same with panpipe [01:56] someday :) [01:56] well, panpipe will someday [01:56] not sure about spotify [01:56] it does some whacky stuff there [01:57] until we have an official spotify app :) [01:57] If I was better programmer I might give it a go. But I think its part of the OS design that it can't work right? [01:57] Yea I pay for the subscription so it is a pain [01:57] nope [01:57] it's a spotify problem mostly [01:58] their playback uses their own proprietary stuff [01:58] so does use what the platform provides [01:58] right, gotcha [01:58] partially our fault though :) [01:58] well... the reason panpipe doesn't work completely in the background [01:58] our media-hub needs to be able to fetch more songs in the background [01:59] which we'll get, the awesome jhodapp won't let me down :) [01:59] Panpipe is similar to spotify? I haven't heard of it [01:59] but even when we get that, spotify will be a problem... until they write an official app [01:59] it's pandora [01:59] panpipe is a pandora client [01:59] ah yea. Okay. Unlikely spotify will write a native app anytime soon I would think. [02:00] who knows :) [02:00] i have no idea if they have anything in the works [02:00] but it could happen [02:00] I would guess when we get a larger user base [02:00] yup [02:01] well good luck [02:01] i gotta run [02:01] cheers === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [05:42] hi guys where would I find the source files for these drivers in the device kernel source? http://pastebin.com/sJcUPKfi === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:36] Good morning all; happy Thank A Mailman Day! :-D [09:39] pitti, *tickle* [09:50] pitti, touch uses a hardcoded /etc/group ... seems your latest systemd upload adds a new "input" group there ... before i just add it to the hardcoded group file i need to know what devices that affects (we use the android_input group in some) [09:51] ogra_: *eek* [09:51] (I'm ticklish!!) [09:51] haha [09:51] ogra_: yeah, I added that because we've shipped this rule for ages: SUBSYSTEM=="input", GROUP="input" [09:52] ogra_: it's meant for daemons which need to access input devices; not a biggie [09:52] right, but the devices also ship rules that set input devices to android_input [09:52] ogra_: right; so keep those [09:52] ogra_: there's no harm (other than a warning about the missing group) if it doesn't exist [09:52] sure, i just need to make sure yours doesnt override them :) [09:52] ogra_: we've had the rule for ages, I just got a bug report about the warning [09:53] some binary drivers need the devices at a certain GID since they have that hardcoded (yay android) [09:53] ogra_: it's in 50-udev-default.rules, so anything later than 50- would override it [09:53] ah, good [09:53] we're at 60 and 75 with our stuff, should be fine then [09:54] ogra_: btw, nice debugging with the "failed to boot" thread -- seems it's now working for him (by and large) [09:54] yeah, he needs the apparmor patches still [09:54] i guess thats the point where i'll hand over to paolo :) [10:19] tsdgeos: oSoMoN: FYI I probably found an autopilot regression with Qt 5.4 bug #1417963 - not much more expected, for example Unity8, UITK fine [10:19] bug 1417963 in webbrowser-app "webbrowser-app autopilot test regression with Qt 5.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417963 [10:19] weather app is another possibility, I'll do some reruns still. currently it'd look like it has 1 failure on Qt 5.3 and 5 failures on Qt 5.4. === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:24] rpadovani, hey, have you seen my last comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/fixBookmarkDesign/+merge/247512 ? [11:40] oSoMoN, done. why do you prefer anchors over heigth/width? [11:44] rpadovani, anchors are more efficient when reflowing (if e.g. the window is resized) [11:46] oSoMoN, thanks for info :-) === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson_ [12:19] How should i flash my UT port to device? === LjL^ is now known as LjL === Cimi_ is now known as Cimi === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === marcustomlinson_ is now known as marcustomlinson [12:46] Any porting notes existing? Maybe should i abandon porting..... [12:56] kenvandine, the tech switch silo is ready === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:04] adrian47: the porting guide is being re-written, should be finished soon [13:10] zsombi, re bug 1404642: the new page is https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/ [13:10] bug 1404642 in Ubuntu App Developer site "Broken Tutorial Link" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404642 [13:10] or rather https://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorials/ [13:10] the docs still link to the old page, which I made a redirect [13:12] dholbach: well, what can we do about that :) [13:15] zsombi, sorry, now I see where the issue is coming from [13:15] nevermind [13:16] dholbach: :) [13:18] zsombi, found another broken link though: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-broken-link/+merge/248545 :) [13:20] dholbach: pls submit the proposal against staging [13:22] hum [13:23] grrrrrrrr [13:23] dholbach: lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging [13:27] zsombi, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-broken-link/+merge/248548 [13:27] dholbach: looks much better :) [13:44] right, weather app cleared, no regression with Qt 5.4 [13:44] so far only known autopilot regression would be that webbrowser-app's one AP, pretty good [13:45] popey: do you have your "run all store apps and take screenshot" usable at some point? upgrading vivid to ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005 (Qt 5.4) and executing it would be nice to get an overview that nothing extremely bad is happening on the app side [13:46] Mirv: I haven't used it for a while, but can certainly try it. Last time I tried there was some change in powerd which broke my script [13:46] will try it though [13:46] popey: oh, ok. thanks! let's see if it's easy or seems hard to do. [13:47] kk [14:00] jgdx, woot [14:00] kenvandine, indeed === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:15] kenvandine, might have to top approve that one as well [14:16] kenvandine, could you review [1] when you get the chance? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/rtm-othervibrate/+merge/247819 [14:19] popey: is possible to get it in actual stage? I don't know even how to properly flash it to device [14:19] adrian47: "it"? [14:20] adrian47, however you have to flash your device ... thats not covered at all by the porting guide (and never was) [14:20] since it is totally specific to the device itself and how it was rooted etc [14:23] i tried few methods, only easy script that unpacked all files from preinstalled archive (with inserted system.img etc..) looks like works, partition mounted properly, system.img file too === Neo31` is now known as Neo31 [14:24] it runs to woring adb stage, android init mount graphic etc. drivers and then i am getting upstart error [14:24] jgdx, sure [14:25] adrian47, got a paste of this ? [14:25] (or of the syslog on the device) [14:28] ogra_: yes, give me a second === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:34] kenvandine, yes indeed, background playlists might actually be implemented in our next iteration [14:34] kenvandine, it's become a very high priority now [14:34] jhodapp, WOOT [14:35] kenvandine, and then we can bring back the indicator controls too [14:42] jhodapp, more awesomeness :) [14:42] kenvandine, yeah, really it's one of the last major features missing from media-hub [14:43] kenvandine, I can't wait to have support for it too [14:44] background playlists \o/ [14:45] oooh [14:45] knew that would wake ahayzen up [14:45] hehe [14:45] popey, i did go to bed after 0600UTC :P [14:45] heh [14:45] * ogra_ still waits for .m3u8 support :) [14:45] ogra_, but that's Apple technology ;) [14:45] no [14:45] popey, but i was having too much fun deferring loading of things and reducing startup time of the music-app :) [14:45] thats unicode m3u [14:46] ogra_, it's all HTTP live streaming playlists [14:46] (usually there is an apple tech link behind it though, thats right) [14:46] also [14:47] ogra_: only listen to English groups and stop with the German Ompa music ;) does that work on desktop out of interest on a more serious note? [14:47] lol [14:47] davmor2, thats for the SAT->IP streams of my sat receiver ... for TV [14:49] ogra_: well snappy must support that then right being the iot os :P you still didn't say if they work on desktop though :) [14:51] davmor2, they work fine in mplayer and vlc ... and kind of work in totem [14:51] i actually tried to roll an mplayer click package for this ... sadly i can only get sound since mplayer has no mir frontend [14:51] ogra_: nice so there is support for them you just need to get vlc to do an ubuntu port right ;) [14:51] mardy: hey, were you able to get the tests fixed for the p2p socket change? [14:51] and its sdl frontend is sdl 1.x only [14:52] ogra_: man that sucks [14:52] davmor2, easier ... i just need mir support in either of the players [14:52] or sdl2 [14:52] ogra_: mpv for the win though [14:53] hi [14:56] davmor2, i bet i could just ship xmir inside the click though ... and have mplayer use X11 ;) [14:56] never tried that ... and it would indeed need to be unconfined [14:58] @orga_ can you help me to set up the correct channel for ubuntu-device-flash to flash my phone? [14:59] stdid BQ answer you yet how to unlock your bootloader and recovery ? [14:59] studio_, ^1 [14:59] i am not sure between ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en --bootstrap or ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en/krillin --bootstrap [15:00] boot loader was still unlocked :( [15:01] boiko: ping [15:01] rvr: pong [15:01] boiko: Silo 4. Looks good so far [15:01] rvr: nice! [15:02] boiko: But the test case being solved, I cannot confirm it works, I have support for call waiting. [15:02] rvr: so, here to test I have one simcard that doesn't support conference calling and when trying to merge the dialog is shown [15:03] boiko: What? Haven't you already tested it? ;P [15:04] rvr: I tested it, I am just telling you how I tested it :) [15:04] rvr: I think you can disable call waiting with your carrier, but that really depends on the carrier (the way to enable/disable it) [15:04] boiko: Let me check. [15:06] adb logcat: http://pastebin.com/MwFjaW4G ; last_kmsg: http://pastebin.com/9pwThC6J [15:07] ogra_: I added some small debug code in touch script [15:09] adrian47, you boot android there ... [15:12] zsombi, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-sdk-team-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-staging-vivid-i386-autolanding/92/console - I don't know what's happening, but I don't think that's related to the URL change, right? :) [15:15] @ogra_, could you please answer in the private window? [15:16] boiko: Ok, I was able to trigger the "Conference call failure" dialog [15:16] rvr: nice! [15:17] ogra_: so how should I boot it? [15:17] boiko: Silo 4 approved. [15:18] rvr: great! thanks :) [15:19] boiko: Make sure the strings get into Launchpad for translation [15:19] adrian47, for some reason the BOOT_MODE variable points to android instead of ubuntu ... see the touch script in the initrd ... [15:20] rvr: yep, I will update the pot files [15:23] ogra_: thanks I see, whe I use ubuntu boot mode the line "mount --move /android-system ${rootmnt}/android/system" from touch script don't work [15:23] so find out why and fix it :) [15:26] ogra_: i tried some time ago but without luck :) before moving in /android-system i se all files, but after there is nothing in /root/android/system === tyhicks` is now known as tyhicks [15:30] @ogra_, BQ told me today, that they can't help and i have to ask at [15:30] "http://ubuntuforums.org/" ... and today i have also seen, that rsalveti is using this phone ... hmmmm ... [15:36] studio_: rsalveti has a development phone, not a production consumer phone [15:37] we already explaind this the other day [15:39] dobey: silo 3 is now built, I'm testing it [15:39] dobey: actually, if you have some time, it would be great if you could test it too [15:42] mardy: already did. dbarth pinged me in the other channel. seems to work well for me on vivid, for the store scope :) [15:43] dobey: cool, what about pay ui? [15:44] mardy: yeah, pay-ui works well. i guess i should have just said "store" and left off the scope. i consider pay-ui an integral part of functionality for the store :) [15:45] hola, I've installed my nexus 5 with ubuntu-device-flash --server="http://system-image.tasemnice.eu" touch --channel="ubuntu-touch/devel" but now adb root says "adbd cannot run as root in production builds" and adb shell won't let me sudo (password phablet doesn't work) how can I get root access? [15:46] Riddell: the sudo password is the same as you use for lock screen [15:46] Riddell, what made you think to use password "phablet" ? [15:46] Riddell: so 1234 if your pin is 1234 [15:46] right [15:46] genius [15:46] ogra_: lots of pages google returns :) [15:47] studio_, sorry, super busy today [15:47] ogra_: well it used to just be phablet like 18 months ago or whatever :) [15:47] so lots of forum posts and such say to use that [15:58] zsombi: thanks for your suggestion to bug 1404884, that worked; but it revealed another similar issue, I added the "fixed" test to the bug :-) [15:58] bug 1404884 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "Using PullToRefresh in a secondary page breaks content's position" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404884 [15:58] @dobey on the video his phone is looking same as the E4.5 [15:59] ok, bbl. bye [16:40] what's the mir equivalent of export DISPLAY=:0; xclock ? [16:41] export MIR_SOCKET=/run/user/32011/mir_socket; /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene $@ share/qml/ubuntu-clock-app.qml doesn't seem to be enough [17:00] Hi there, I've got a question. I want to start off porting ubuntu touch to a phone with a friend of mine. I'm a novice in porting so I was wondering if you guys could suggest me a phone to buy to startoff porting. I'm currently looking at the One Plus One, any other suggestions? === zero is now known as Guest11855 [17:01] hello ineed help to install ubuntu phone touch on iphone4 [17:01] Guest11855: not happening. [17:02] Because it's not really clear to me what I should look for. I don't want a nexus because they work out of the box ;-) [17:02] clitjes: I hear that's an excellent device, I can see people wouild like that [17:03] popey: Do you think that it's possible for 2 novice porters? We have alot of general linux experience. [17:03] some one help please [17:03] Guest11855: you won't be able to port to iphone. [17:04] clitjes: I don't know, not done it myself. Our porting guide is being updated. Maybe wait till you see that. [17:04] so is not possible [17:04] Guest11855: correct. [17:05] Guest11855: someone at some point in the distant future may be able to do it, but it's just not possible really right now. [17:05] popey: Yeah I'll wait for that, got really exited after the fosdem talk. I'm a great supporter of the ubuntu touch philosophy. [17:05] You were at fosdem? [17:05] Saviq's talk was good. Glad he left a lot of time for questions. [17:06] back [17:06] there should be videos up soon [17:06] popey: Yeah I liked the talk [17:07] ahh Saviq that name sounds familiar ;-) [17:07] but is possible install android on iphone 4 and before install ubuntu touch [17:07] Saviq: Great talk! [17:07] clitjes, glad [17:07] after some reading i am now confused. how can i figure out if the bootloader from my device is locked or unlocked? [17:07] duflu: FYI I added comment to this https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/qtmir/fix-buffers_ready_for_compositor/+merge/248511 [17:08] Guest11855: nope [17:08] ok thankyou [17:08] greyback: Thanks I forgot. Too many distractions [17:09] Thnx guys for the help, I'm getting the One Plus One and start porting when the new HowTo is ready. Any idea when it will be ready? [17:10] clitjes: ask davidcalle - he's writing it :) [17:10] Saviq: If you already mentioned this at Fosdem then I'm sorry I didn't remeber this [17:10] clitjes, will be out this friday :) [17:10] popey: what's the best way to get in contact? Just wait for a reply in the channel [17:11] look up :) [17:11] great! then I've got some prep work to do in the weekends [17:11] clitjes: good luck! [17:11] thnx guys! you'll see our work if we get it up and running! [17:11] cya [17:11] clitjes, and I'll be waiting for your feedback ;) [17:11] ofc [17:11] yeah, that's a great point, clitjes you may be the first person using it [17:11] feedback would be very helpful. [17:12] If I encouter anything I'll write it down and let you guys know [17:12] you know where to find us :) [17:16] beuno: I have installed a new dekko package, and because the developer had to switch from the old namespace to the new one, I now have two copies installed. That's not supposed to happen is it? [17:16] com.ubuntu.developer.dpniel.dekko 0.4-204-Dirty [17:16] dekko.dekkoproject 0.4-253 [17:16] popey, it is, the developer can upload to the old namespace [17:16] if the developer switches, it's a new app [17:17] i sideloaded [17:17] ick, I said "sideload". [17:17] k [17:17] so there you go [17:28] Hello === Neo31 is now known as tester31 === tester31 is now known as Neo31 [17:30] I really love this project but i know little about Ubuntu touch [17:30] A certain Dev called David Hacker was the one who ported it to our moto droid razr [17:31] But he is no where to be found lol [17:33] please, how can i figure out if the bootloader from my device is locked or unlocked? [17:39] hey all [17:40] studio_: did you unlock it? if not, it's locked. [17:40] i am not sure, how to figure out if the bootloader is locked or unlocked? [17:41] studio_: if you did not unlock it, then it is locked. it is that simple [17:41] you do not have a development device that is already unlocked. you have a retail device which is locked. [17:41] sure it is locked by factory? [17:43] i am pretty certain that manufacturers ship retail phones that are locked, yes [17:44] and i'm pretty certain the retail phones that come with ubuntu on them, will also be locked [17:44] ok :( [17:46] who is the right person at BQ to ask for help? Mr. Martínez seems to be not? [17:47] you would have to ask BQ that [17:48] hmmm no replies huh?? [17:49] i asked at bq, and they told me i have to ask at "http://ubuntuforums.org/" [17:50] okay.... [17:51] so, do i talk to the wrong person at bq? [17:52] bq support is bq support, talking to someone else at bq probably isn't going to get you the answer you want [17:52] studio_: like we said the other day, you will have to be patient and wait until they perform the actual public release. [17:53] that is what i mean ... so therefore i thought i can get help here in the chat ... [17:54] the advice i have for you has not changed. it is "be patient" [17:55] @dobey i thought i can "try" it before it will be public ... i am "nosy" ... ;) [17:57] then go nose around xda dev forums and see if anyone has figured out how to unlock your phone [17:57] that's the best place to get info on how to unlock various phones [17:59] i tried today to find more informations, therefore i was happy to find this video: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/VID_20150127_161410.mp4 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:06] studio_: this is from an early prototype though [18:07] yes, but the phone is a BQ E4.5 [18:08] did i made a mistake to buy the BQ E4.5? [18:08] studio_: there is no easy way to flash ubuntu right now on bq e4.5, it should be doable once bq releases their binaries for it [18:08] because there is a different partition table for ubuntu, so it's not just flashing the rootfs, might require some additional changes [18:09] that's why I'd also suggest you to wait at least a few more days [18:16] @rsalveti, thanks for your answer, so in the moment i have the chance to send back my E4.5 . I bought for Ubuntu-Touch and not for Android! [18:17] studio_: right, you will be able to buy one with ubuntu-touch soon [18:17] there is no "Super-Phone" for Ubuntu-Touch right now therefore i bought the "small" version to test it ... [18:19] @rsalveti, i don't understand is the "other" version different? [18:20] studio_: as I said, the bootloader at least is different, so you need the official bq binaries and tools to flash it [18:20] so either you buy one with ubuntu touch on it, or wait it to be officially released and ask instructions from bq on how to flash the ubuntu version on it [18:22] for exp. "on my risc" is it possible to flash your uboot.bin? [18:23] it might yes, I don't know exactly as I never tried [18:23] ;) [18:24] ping ricmm, I'm trying your fake sensor fixture in the emulator, and the apps don't rotate in there. Any idea why is that? === mterry_ is now known as mterry [18:26] ogra_: http://pastebin.com/13cZszrM [18:27] adrian47, that looks a lot more like an ubuntu boot :) [18:28] [ 8.341003] init: ureadahead-touch main process (1447) terminated with status 5 [18:28] this is the first upstart job on the system [18:28] so you booted into the ubuntu rootfs using upstart ... [18:30] adrian47, i guess you want to create a udev rules file for your device now [18:30] there are some notes on the old deprecated porting guide for this [18:30] @rsalveti, i compared today my lk.bin and the uboot.img, most things are same, but in the beginning many things are different ... therefore i am not sure to "test" it. Last tome when i tried a different bootloader i destroid a 10" tabet ;) [18:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DeprecatedPorting [18:31] studio_: right, that is why I'd suggest waiting for the new binary at least [18:31] (in " w-flo's notes") [18:31] dbarth: For tomorrow, ping osomon about silo 8, because it is failing for me. The eBay video is not played smoothly, CPU usage goes over 150%. [18:33] ogra_: many thanks, i wil try it :) [18:33] adrian47, i would also check the kernel config seems some device bits arent properly working yet [18:34] @rsalveti, did you get my email? [18:35] Chipaca: Hi. About silo 7 (notification flooding). Do you have an automated test for that? Neither the test plan or the bug report have a test case. [18:35] studio_: not sure, which email did you use? [18:36] your domain [18:36] rvr: still? [18:36] rvr: can you comment on the bug with the url/video you are using [18:36] dbarth: Sure. [18:38] rvr: i've tried various videos mentioned in the bug and that was playing well once the fix was made [18:38] studio_: I think you might need to flash a few additional files for it to work fully, so I'd not suggest you to flash just uboot for now [18:38] ogra_: i swapped partitions in boot cmdline (system with data), should i change it in fstab too? [18:38] rvr: if you play embeded videos, ie youtube hosted on another site, we still have the issue, but really that's a very involved fix [18:39] dbarth: I used this one http://pages.ebay.com/shoptheworld/ [18:39] if you got my email, maybe you can help by email? [18:40] studio_, what do you expect from rsalveti ? he doesnt have the tools that BQ has to release to make locked bootloaders work [18:41] nobody in here can help you to unlock your bootloader or re-partition your device [18:41] only BQ can [18:41] studio_: can't really help you might because of the BQ specific binaries [18:41] * ogra_ feels like a broken LP [18:42] you need to wait for them to release the tools ... which they will likely do once they released the phone [18:43] @ogra_, for what do i need the bootloader from BQ if i can flash the whole image with the MTK-Flash-Tool, that is what i do not understand? [18:43] studio_, the phone is partitioned differently for ubuntu [18:43] right, not only the boot loader, there are some additional files that are critical for the phone to work [18:44] it uses a specific recovery too [18:45] " the phone is partitioned differently for ubuntu" i understand that, but if i flash a new image, isn't there right now the new partition? [18:46] no [18:46] the partitioning specific files (and some others), are not available on system-image [18:46] the filesystem of the image wont fit into the partition [18:46] they will be available when bq publishes that [18:51] ugh, mako #89 has some real issues! [18:52] not only does the dash not load at all... but it keeps switching away from any apps you have running [18:57] "they will be available when bq publishes that" are you sure bq will publish the user to decide Android or Ubuntu-Touch? [19:04] studio_: again, no, we aren't sure of what bq will do in that respect. YOU HAVE TO ASK BQ [19:07] studio_: if nobody on xda developers forum has unlocked and repartitioned the existing android bq phone, then it's unlikely you will be able to. the only way i know of to do it, is to get bq to give you the tools/instructions to do it. [19:08] is unity8-dash crashing for anyone else in #89? [19:08] bug 1418176 [19:08] bug 1418176 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/unity8-dash:11:constData:operator:qMapLessThanKey:lowerBound:QMapData" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418176 [19:15] @dobey, here the replay from BQ to my question: Leider verfügen wir zur Zeit keine Information auf. [19:15] Sie können bei den Forum der Ubuntugemeinschaft einen Post schreiben damit [19:15] andere Users Ihnen helfen können. [19:15] [1]http://ubuntuforums.org/ [19:15] Entschuldigen Sie die Unannehmlichkeiten. [19:15] Wir stehen für Ihrer Verfügung. [19:15] Mit freundlichen Grüßen, [19:15] [19:15] Emilio Martínez [19:16] and? [19:16] und nein sprechen ze deutcshe [19:17] sorry, the reply was in german ... [19:17] BQ can't / will help, therfore i am here [19:18] we can't help. [19:18] studio_, they haven't released the phone yet, so i doubt they would do anything before that [19:18] studio_, and really it's nothing we can help with [19:19] so i have to wait till the 06/02/2014 ? [19:19] they will be releasing the phone soon, so i'd imagine the rest will follow quickly [19:19] not the 6th, no. [19:19] beyond that, but that's up to bq, not us. [19:20] studio_, you have to wait until BQ releases their stuff [19:20] whenever that is [19:20] i thouht they will show it on the 6th ? [19:20] you'll have to ask them when they're releasing [19:20] i don't know, bq is bq, bq is not ubuntu. they are just shipping a phone with ubuntu on it [19:21] just like we can't tell you when dell will release a new PC/laptop with ubuntu available by default [19:21] @dobey, what will be the ubuntu-phone? [19:22] studio_, we know there will be the BQ device with ubuntu, if that's what you mean [19:22] i don't know what you are asking. bq is shipping a phone with ubuntu on it. i have ubuntu on two phones sitting in front of me, both of them google nexus devices [19:22] but releasing it is up to BQ [19:22]