[04:01] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn  and other early birds
[04:06] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[04:07] <Kilos> hehe
[04:47] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[04:47] <Tonberry> hi
[04:47] <inetpro> good mornings
[04:47] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[04:47] <Kilos> you early hey?
[04:51] <inetpro> up this early many times... just don't always need to tell the world
[04:51]  * inetpro merging superfly's latest changes from earlier today
[04:52] <Kilos> hehe good man
[04:52] <Kilos> were you two busy till late?
[04:53] <inetpro> done
[04:54] <inetpro> uh, him more than me
[04:54] <Kilos> ai! he doesnt sleep enough
[04:54] <inetpro> see: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za-dev/ubuntu-za/website
[04:55] <Kilos> he did something 1 minute ago
[04:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[04:56] <inetpro> more like a few hours ago
[04:56] <inetpro> the merging was just done by me a few minutes ago
[04:56] <Kilos> ah it just shows as him then
[04:56] <inetpro> because he's the author of the changes
[04:57] <Kilos> ok, so whats left to do?
[04:57] <Kilos> just the home page?
[04:59] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[04:59] <inetpro> Kilos: you can click on the revision number to see more details of a revision
[05:00] <Kilos> lemme look for that
[05:01] <inetpro> good mornings mazal
[05:01] <Kilos> i dont know if we see the same thing
[05:02] <inetpro> Kilos: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za-dev/ubuntu-za/website/revision/12
[05:03] <inetpro> change 12 to 11, 10, 9.... if you want to view previous changes
[05:04] <inetpro> previous revisions*
[05:04] <Kilos> nono thats past me
[05:04] <inetpro> nono, not really
[05:04] <inetpro> just read the screen
[05:04] <Kilos> ya its like trying to get a package from source
[05:04] <mazal> Morning Kilos and inetpro
[05:05] <Kilos> thats all serious geek stuff man
[05:06] <Kilos> you need to read my blog again, im an appy geek
[05:06] <inetpro> you can see exactly what changed and start jumping up and down with joy in anticipation of seeing the actual changes on the new site
[05:07] <Kilos> lol
[05:07] <Kilos> ill start jumping if that will help
[05:08] <Kilos> actually while you have some time just explain what i must look for
[05:08] <Kilos> wait
[05:08] <Kilos> jan has a prob
[05:08] <Kilos> he installed ubuntu onto a recruits lappy
[05:09] <Kilos> it doesnt show the splash screen but lots of text like i see because splash is off
[05:09] <Kilos> and /etc/default/grub doesnt fix it
[05:09]  * inetpro wbbl
[05:10] <Kilos> lol
[05:10] <inetpro> you make wrong assumption that I have time now
[05:10] <inetpro> need to go
[05:10] <inetpro> sorry
[05:10] <Kilos> ok go but think while going
[05:31] <Trixar_za> The bootscreen isn't supplied by grub
[05:31] <Trixar_za> er, splash screen I mean
[05:33] <Kilos> ya but to turn it off you need to remove "quiet splash"
[05:34] <Kilos> hopefully this will fix it
[05:34] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/362722/how-to-fix-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases
[05:34] <Kilos> but now he has gone somewhere for a week or so so i left him the link in a mail
[05:34] <Trixar_za> No - you need to make sure it's there
[05:35] <Trixar_za> It's a resolution and colour depth issue with some cards
[05:35] <Trixar_za> removing the quiet and splash cheat codes would cause the issue
[05:35] <Kilos> it was a clean install that didnt show splash at all
[05:36] <Kilos> only from the dvd
[05:37] <Kilos> and no one helped him on the list so ive been trying
[05:40] <Trixar_za> Anyway, I'm going to try getting Black And White to work
[05:40] <Trixar_za> :P
[05:42] <Kilos> lol
[06:04] <bduk> More almal
[06:05] <Kilos> hi bduk  
[06:19] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[06:30] <superfly> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[06:30] <superfly> Kilos: if you're finished with a story in Trello, drag and drop it into the "Done" column
[06:30] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[06:31] <Kilos> will do superfly  
[06:56] <Squirm> Morning
[06:56] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[07:02] <nlsthzn> hmm... busy having a look at the whole bzr thingy ... always wanted to work on something that I can modify and upload and all that shenanigans :p - now the only problem is I will have to concentrate :p
[07:02] <nlsthzn> and set up a ssh key again >.<
[07:02] <nlsthzn> grrrr
[07:02] <Kilos> lol
[07:03] <Kilos> everything is work
[07:09] <Kilos> banana sarmy help calm the nerves
[07:11] <Kilos> http://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=384&m=397&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=8692&l=-http--mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/118115-google-gives-the-gtalk-kill-order.html
[07:11] <Kilos> sjoe thats long
[07:15] <Kilos> go pidgin
[07:29] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[07:29]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:29] <inetpro> hi nlsthzn
[07:29] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[07:29] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[07:32] <Kilos> Symmetria  what is happening about your deb-delta server?
[07:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[07:33] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[07:33] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[07:33] <Kilos> i go take sheep away
[07:34] <nlsthzn> hey inetpro 
[08:10] <charl> good morning
[08:10] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:10]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:10] <Kilos> hi charl  
[08:10] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:10] <charl> how are you this fine morning
[08:10] <Kilos> alive and you?
[08:10] <charl> good
[08:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:14] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:15] <inetpro> loadshedding at home
[08:16] <Kilos> ai!
[08:16] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:16] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:18] <superfly> inetpro, Kilos: latest version of the site up
[08:20] <Kilos> at http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/ ?
[08:20] <inetpro> looking good superfly!
[08:21] <Kilos> what am i doing wrong i still see the jumbotron thing and no learn more
[08:21] <superfly> Kilos: you're not freshing your browser
[08:22] <Kilos> i just opened it from scratch
[08:22] <Kilos> aha
[08:22] <superfly> yes, but your browser has cached it. refresh.
[08:22] <inetpro> Kilos: refretch!!
[08:22] <Kilos> oo very lekker
[08:23] <inetpro> now just the three columns
[08:33] <inetpro> hmm... according to City of Tshwane website There is currently no Load Shedding in progress!  
[08:34] <inetpro> seems they just do what they want when they feel like it
[08:44] <mazal> Oom Kilos
[08:51] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[08:52] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[09:04] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  Rynomster  
[09:11] <arnaudmez_> Hello guys
[09:11] <arnaudmez_> hi Kilos
[09:12] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez_  
[09:12] <arnaudmez_> How are things here
[09:12] <arnaudmez_> ?
[09:12] <Kilos> you okes have a loco man
[09:12] <Kilos> im good ty
[09:13] <arnaudmez_> coming back please
[09:17] <mazal> Kilos: How did the application meeting go last night ?
[09:18] <arnaudmez_> I'm back
[09:18] <Kilos> tomorrow night mazal  
[09:18] <Kilos> wb arnaudmez_  
[09:18] <arnaudmez_> ty
[09:18] <Kilos> what are you breaking
[09:19] <arnaudmez_> i would like to know if I can charge peoples when I train them on Linux Basic
[09:19] <Kilos> yes you charge for your time not the linux
[09:21] <mazal> Why did I think it was last night , ugh I'm getting old
[09:21] <Kilos> lol
[09:21] <arnaudmez_> I know for Linux wanted to make sure
[09:22] <Kilos> midnight tomorrow night sigh
[09:22] <arnaudmez_> I realized people here want to be trained but it's abit hard for them to catch up with the community thing, for so I will create the LoCo by providing training first
[09:23] <Kilos> you have a loco there already arnaudmez_  
[09:23] <Kilos> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-cd/
[09:23] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: what's happening midnight tomorrow ?
[09:23] <Kilos> superfly  and i are applying for ubuntu membership
[09:24] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: that DR Congo not the Congo I live in
[09:24] <Kilos> aha
[09:24] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: I'm from Congo Brazzaville
[09:24] <Kilos> where are you
[09:24] <Kilos> oh ya
[09:24] <arnaudmez_> yep, there is two Congo in our beautyful Africa
[09:25] <Kilos> oh ok then get training so you can have lots of members then we help you form a new loco
[09:25] <Kilos> dont overcharge and frighten peeps away
[09:26] <Kilos> encourage as many peeps as you can
[09:26] <arnaudmez_> No i Wont trust me
[09:27] <Kilos> always be friendly, patient and understanding
[09:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone still play on the minetest server?
[09:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos, superfly, inetpro
[09:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone else
[09:30] <Kilos> nope ThatGraemeGuy  
[09:31] <Kilos> too much work atm along with data cap
[09:33] <Kilos> hi drussell  
[09:33] <drussell> Kilos: hey, how's you? :o)
[09:34] <Kilos> good ty drussell  and you
[09:34] <drussell> Kilos: all good!
[09:35] <Kilos> drussell  are you still with canonical?
[09:36] <drussell> Kilos: no, I left about 7-8 months ago
[09:36] <Kilos> aw
[09:36] <Kilos> and no more ubuntu dev?
[09:36] <arnaudmez_> How much can I charge for basic ? Do you guys have an idea of the cost ?
[09:37] <drussell> Kilos: no, I was working with customers looking to use OpenStack, but I'm at Hortonworks now, all about Hadoop and big data
[09:37] <Kilos> arnaudmez_  i think imo you can charge what you think your time is worth
[09:38] <Kilos> so the more peeps there the cheaper you can make it for them
[09:38] <Kilos> aw drussell  well i hope you are happy there
[09:38] <drussell> Kilos: yes, all very good, glad I made the change
[09:38] <Kilos> at least you havent forgotten us
[09:39] <drussell> Kilos: this is the friendliest Ubuntu channel on the whole interwebz ;o)
[09:39] <Kilos> hehe i know
[09:39] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: sure but I want to make it not too spicy too so aligning this to international rates would be fine
[09:40] <Kilos> that will be hard to work out arnaudmez_  because you are basically doing the job of a lecturer
[09:40] <Kilos> and they get paid rather badly iirc
[09:40] <arnaudmez_> ... i see
[09:41] <arnaudmez_> another point, where can i find training ppt (even english versions, i will translate myself)
[09:41] <Kilos> are you going to give classes an hour at a time?
[09:42] <Kilos> surely there is something already available in french
[09:43] <Kilos> it is french hey
[09:46] <Kilos> http://beginlinux.org/
[09:53] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: I haven't been there in a very long time
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah i logged on just now and noticed it wasn't running, not even sure how long :)
[11:27] <Kilos> ai!inetwat breek jy?
[11:28] <inetpro> ai!
[11:28] <inetpro> we loadshedding the bits and bytes again
[11:34] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi
[11:34] <nuvolari> môre
[11:34] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  
[12:05] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :)
[12:05] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed?
[12:05] <Kilos> ja dankie seun net bietjie senuweeagtig vir more aand
[12:06] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit by jou nuvolari  
[12:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:34] <Kilos> hi captine  
[12:34] <captine> Hi all.  Sorry to bug.  Am looking for an alternative to MS Project server
[12:34] <Maaz> captine: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell captine http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/getting-involved.html" 17 hours, 14 minutes and 34 seconds ago
[12:38] <Kilos> captine  https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fprojectlibre%2F&ei=fxLSVMnmGMHqUpOggvgI&usg=AFQjCNFpriVH-VAbOiMSisDBZEEKMlfgYg&sig2=KvrcR7oFJ8e9MclnoHDnRw&bvm=bv.85076809,d.d24
[12:38] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:38] <Kilos> https://sourceforge.net/projects/projectlibre/
[12:41] <Kilos> i wonder how one communicates with arabs
[12:41] <Kilos> where is neelsie
[12:44] <Kilos> google where is tunisia
[12:44] <Kilos> hehe
[12:45] <Kilos> where cant go further north in africa than that
[12:45] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:39] <Kilos> oh my superfly  , seems we are the only 2 applicants
[13:45] <Kilos> inetpro  storming at harties and wind blowing this way
[13:45] <Kilos> l;ets hope
[13:45] <Kilos> lets as well
[14:04] <Kilos> rofl
[14:04] <Kilos> hee hee heeeee
[14:04] <Kilos> even in tunisia the yanks have them
 Hey Kilos
[14:04] <Kilos> lol
[14:06] <elacheche> o/
[14:07] <Kilos> hi elacheche  welcome to ubuntu-za
[14:07] <elacheche> Thx Kilos :)
[14:07] <stickyboy> Ah
[14:07] <Kilos> hi stickyboy  
[14:08] <captine> thanks kilos.  projectlibre is what i use as a desktop tool.  they dont have a server version yet
[14:08] <superfly> Kilos: we're probably the first people in months :-P
[14:08] <stickyboy> Kilos: Hey
[14:09] <stickyboy> Struggling to be effective after 5.
[14:09] <Kilos> aw sorry captine
[14:11] <stickyboy> Kilos: You're not sorry for me? Struggling to be effective!
[14:15] <Kilos> lol
[14:15] <Kilos> why sticky?
[14:16] <Kilos> late nights
[14:21] <Kilos> wbb, i go fetch sheep
[15:13] <Kilos> lol Neo31  welcome to ubuntu-za but go get your work done first
[15:14] <Neo31> hhh, just adding the chan to my favorites ;)
[15:14] <Neo31> thx Kilos 
[15:14] <Kilos> good man
[15:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:59] <magespawn> good evening
[16:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[16:08] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:32] <Kilos> ooo i love irc
[16:56] <gremble> o/
[16:56] <Maaz> gremble: gremble: By the way, you have a pile of memos waiting for you, too many to read out in public. PM me
[16:56] <Kilos> gremble  hello
[16:56] <Kilos> stranger
[16:57] <gremble> Hey Kilos haha
[16:57] <Kilos> i am so busy in so many channels and tabs in browser im totally lost
[16:59] <Kilos> supper time
[17:12] <mazal> Maaz can keep memos ?
[17:13] <gremble> Maaz tell mazal that you can keep memos
[17:13] <Maaz> gremble: Got it, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[17:13] <gremble> When you relog, it'll tell you
[17:13] <gremble> :P
[17:13] <mazal> Oh I know about that "tell" feature. Thought memos was something else that you could tell him to store for you
[17:13] <Maaz> mazal: By the way, gremble on freenode told me "tell mazal that you can keep memos" 48 seconds ago
[17:14] <gremble> memo is a feature of IRC as well
[17:27] <Kilos> gremble  did you see the opinion about geeks
[17:33] <Kilos> hi mazal  Neo31  
[17:33] <Neo31> hi Kilos :)
[17:34] <Kilos> so havent you seen the mail yet?
[17:34] <Neo31> nope didn't leave work yet
[17:34] <mazal> Lo oom
[17:35] <Neo31> what email Kilos ?
[17:35] <Kilos> add to your favourites Neo31  #ubuntu-africa
[17:35] <Neo31> on what address did you send that email?
[17:35] <Kilos> elche said he will forward it to you all
[17:35] <Kilos> elacheche  
[17:35] <Neo31> i'm in
[17:36] <Neo31> he said he will do that when he get's home
[17:36] <Neo31> he might be still at work or on his way back, it will get to us late at night or the morning :)
[17:38] <Kilos> on his way home i think
[17:48] <superfly> Good evening.
[17:49] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[17:50] <octoquad> evening superfly
[17:51] <superfly> hey octoquad, hi Kilos
[17:54] <Kilos> found a debian developer superfly  
[17:54] <Kilos> in mauritius
[17:54] <Kilos> hehe
[18:00] <superfly> Kilos: orly?
[18:00] <inetpro> good mornings
[18:00] <mazal> Time to go see if any power at home
[18:01] <Kilos> superfly  cyb@debian.org
[18:01] <mazal> bye 4 now all
[18:01] <superfly> bye mazal
[18:01] <Kilos> cheers mazal  
[18:02] <Kilos> #linux.mu
[18:03] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:03] <inetpro> where do all these new peeps come from Kilos?
[18:04] <inetpro> welcome to ubuntu-za Neo31
[18:04] <Kilos> tunisia inetpro  
[18:05] <inetpro> sjoe!
[18:05] <Kilos> now got the very top and bottom of africa
[18:06] <inetpro> Kilos: you'll have to start learning their language sir
[18:06] <Kilos> they speak english too
[18:06] <Neo31> thank you inetpro 
[18:06] <Kilos> hi captine  
[18:06] <captine> hi there
[18:06] <captine> thanks for looking up project tools earlier...
[18:06] <captine> was sneaking a login through the webchat.freenode site... while at work
[18:07] <Neo31> lol Arabic is hard to learn inetpro 
[18:07] <Kilos> and french
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:07] <Neo31> but almost everyone speaks French in Tunisia (same for Algeria and Morocco)
[18:07] <inetpro> Neo31: haha, I once trained Arabic people to use MS Word many years ago
[18:08] <Neo31> lol traitor inetpro 
[18:08] <Neo31> hhh
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <inetpro> guys thought I was able to read it when all I knew was the exact location of each menu option
[18:09] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:09]  * Neo31 's gotta go afk, c u later
[18:10] <inetpro> Neo31: go well
[18:33] <inetpro> superfly: when are you going live?
[18:34] <superfly> inetpro: when the bottom 3 things are filled
[18:34] <superfly> I'm trying to come up with what should go in there... any ideas?
[18:34] <inetpro> :)
[18:34]  * inetpro thinking
[18:34] <Kilos> lol those blogs with foreign language
[18:35] <superfly> Kilos: it's Latin
[18:35]  * Kilos smells wood burning
[18:35] <superfly> inetpro: we don't even need those buttons
[18:35] <inetpro> true, but we have something missing
[18:35] <inetpro> surely we need to lnk back to ubuntu.com somewhere
[18:36] <inetpro> and perhaps something about releases
[18:36] <inetpro> or at least a link to the download page
[18:37] <inetpro> just something that doesn't need to change often
[18:37] <Kilos> thats a good idea
[18:37] <Kilos> the links for the different flavours
[18:37] <Kilos> then i dont need to ask fly everytime
[18:38] <Kilos> i only need one link nowadays kubuntu
[18:40] <superfly> inetpro: good idea
[18:40] <inetpro> maybe a short intro to Ubuntu the OS
[18:40] <inetpro> like What is Ubuntu?
[18:44] <inetpro> the Zim page has a nice short writeup at http://www.ubuntu.org.zw/
[18:47] <captine> superfly: hi htere..  quick one.  when I contribute again to the site, should I use a new branch??  Or can I just sync my branch with the current "latest" and then re-submit from it for merge?
[18:47] <superfly> captine: first, go into your "trunk" directory, and run "bzr up" - that will synchronise your local copy with what's on Launchpad. Then create a new branch.
[18:47] <captine> ok
[18:48] <Kilos> we so lucky to have the fly with us
[18:48] <Kilos> ty superfly  
[18:48] <Kilos> and thank the family for your time too
[18:49] <superfly> inetpro: to be honest, I'd rather leave explaining Ubuntu up to the Ubuntu site.
[18:49] <inetpro> good idea
[18:53] <magespawn> good evening back from load shedding that wasn't
[18:53] <inetpro> superfly: hmm...
[18:53] <inetpro> Cannot expand "commit_data": Dicts do not support option expansion
[18:54] <inetpro> what that be?
[18:54] <superfly> inetpro: doesn't matter. I get it all the time, and it doesn't make a difference
[18:54] <inetpro> ok
[18:55] <magespawn> still doing bazaar tutorials or practice/
[18:55] <magespawn> ?
[18:55] <inetpro> Bug #1254838 
[18:55] <inetpro> magespawn: we're getting very close to ready for launch now
[18:55] <inetpro> I think
[18:56] <magespawn> awesome sauce
[18:57] <inetpro> we're on revision 15 now
[18:57] <inetpro> if you do 'bzr up' you can see all the changes
[18:57] <magespawn> hold on a sec
[18:58] <inetpro> then do 'bzr qlog' for an awesome way to look through all the changes
[18:59] <Kilos> rofl
[18:59] <Kilos> awesome sauce and cool beans
[18:59] <Kilos> quite a mix
[19:00] <magespawn> i think i have to move into the project folde first
[19:00] <superfly> and, as usual... I've done most of the work.
[19:00] <magespawn> s/folde/folder
[19:01] <inetpro> don't know where superfly finds the time to make all these changes but he's done it
[19:01] <inetpro> magespawn: the trunk folder
[19:01] <magespawn> yup 
[19:01] <magespawn> superfly has found the way to deny the requirement to sleep
[19:02] <magespawn> in projects if i recall correctly
[19:03] <magespawn> was it trunk or ubuntu-za?
[19:03] <inetpro> if you followed the tutorial it would be ~/Projects/ubuntu-za/trunk I think
[19:04] <superfly> I've shamelessly stolen the blurb from the Zimbabwean's site, inetpro maybe look at it and mix a few words up?
[19:04] <inetpro> superfly: which blurb would that be?
[19:05] <superfly> inetpro: that one: https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/ubuntu-blurb/+merge/248625
[19:05] <magespawn> that is correct inetpro
[19:05] <magespawn> done and done, very cool, you have been busy
[19:07] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:08] <inetpro> let's break that apart for a moment
[19:08] <inetpro> Ubuntu is an entirely open source operating system built around the Linux kernel. 
[19:09] <inetpro> Ubuntu is an open source operating system built around the Linux kernel. 
[19:09] <inetpro> not entirely
[19:09] <inetpro> "Ubuntu is a community developed, Linux-based operating system that is perfect for laptops, desktops and servers. "
[19:09] <inetpro> that is perfect
[19:09] <inetpro> "It contains all the applications you need - ..." 
[19:10] <inetpro> really all?
[19:10] <inetpro> I'd say most
[19:13] <magespawn> maybe they are refering to your average user
[19:13] <superfly> inetpro: done
[19:13] <superfly> I haven't updated the merge proposal yet
[19:13] <inetpro> superfly: then again, also not really all community developed
[19:13] <superfly> let me know when you're happy and I'll repropose
[19:14] <superfly> inetpro: meh. good enough
[19:14] <inetpro> k
[19:14] <superfly> inetpro: it is, rather. what do you call Debian?
[19:14] <inetpro> don't we want to say Debian based somewhere perhaps?
[19:16] <inetpro> and then wikipedia has the following which I find is relevant as well
[19:16] <inetpro> It is based on free software and named after the Southern African philosophy of ubuntu (literally, "human-ness"), which often is translated as "humanity towards others" or "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity"
[19:18] <inetpro> superfly: one moment
[19:18] <superfly> inetpro: let's not put the entire Wikipedia into our blurb...
[19:19] <inetpro> sure... was just pointing out relevancy
[19:19] <inetpro> superfly: how do I pull the blurb here?
[19:20] <inetpro> bzr branch lp:~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/ubuntu-blurb  
[19:20] <inetpro> lik so ^^ ?
[19:20] <inetpro> like as well
[19:22] <superfly> yes
[19:22] <inetpro> but I stay inside the project?
[19:23] <superfly> inetpro: yes, but outside trunk
[19:23] <inetpro> ahh
[19:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[19:24] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:24] <inetpro> hmm... 
[19:26] <inetpro> it's like pulling the whole project into the ubuntu-blurb folder
[19:28] <inetpro> superfly: let's go for it as is
[19:29] <captine> superfly: to clean up bazaar, do we delete the branch that i had created for "Getting Involved" or does it stay forever?
[19:29] <captine> considering it is merged etc?
[19:30] <inetpro> superfly: shall I Approve?
[19:30] <superfly> captine: just delete the directory :-)
[19:30] <superfly> inetpro: if you wish
[19:32] <captine> must admit, it would be easier to have a branch called captine, work on it, submit merge, then re-synch it and submit next merge.  need to get a dictionary to come up with names for branches... :)
[19:32] <captine> first world problems.....  
[19:32] <captine> lol
[19:34] <inetpro> done
[19:35] <superfly> captine: I just call it what I'm doing in it. with my OpenLP project, if I'm working on a bug, the branch is bug-#######
[19:35] <captine> yip.  am doing similar... :)
[19:37] <captine> superfly: I have used openLP in testing a bit.  Do you use it at your church?
[19:37] <superfly> yup
[19:41]  * inetpro started properly on local now
[19:41] <inetpro> with the next branch I'd like to do another test
[19:42] <inetpro> superfly: have you updated with nikola yet?
[19:42] <superfly> not yet
[19:42] <inetpro> ahh
[19:43] <inetpro> will have to force-refresh every page here
[19:50] <superfly> inetpro: updated
[19:51] <inetpro> ahh, we're getting closer to the end now
[19:52]  * inetpro eventually caught up
[19:52] <inetpro> so much faster to test locally
[19:53] <captine> quick one.  if I want to bookmark to a spot in my page with nikola, how????  is there shortcut code? or using normal html?
[19:54] <superfly> inetpro: 2nd column == Local Community?
[19:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> night night peeps
[19:54] <superfly> inetpro: 3rd column == South Africa?
[19:54] <superfly> night ThatGraemeGuy
[19:54] <superfly> maybe the other way round?
[19:55] <inetpro> superfly: sounds interesting, what do you want to put about SA?
[19:55] <superfly> dunno
[19:55] <superfly> something about not being overseas!
[19:56] <inetpro> :-)
[19:56] <magespawn> what i miss?
[19:57] <inetpro> superfly: see http://www.brandsouthafrica.com/ for some ideas perhaps?
[19:59] <inetpro> tough one yo capture in a few words
[19:59] <inetpro> to*
[20:00] <Kilos> lol
[20:00] <inetpro> kom Kiloshelp man
[20:00] <captine> anyone working on a "getting started" pahe
[20:00] <Kilos> ek was amper aan die slaap
[20:01] <captine> dont want to duplicate effort
[20:01] <superfly> captine: getting started with what?
[20:01] <captine> Kilos: sorry to ask again, but when is the midnight meeting for the membership thing?
[20:01] <Kilos>  something about not being overseas!
[20:01] <superfly> captine: tomorrow night
[20:01] <captine> superfly: with Ubuntu... different distros, quick guide
[20:01] <Kilos> tomorrow captine  
[20:02] <Kilos> just say birthplace of the ubuntu founder
[20:03] <inetpro> I'd say let's not try to duplicate too much info that can be found elsewhere
[20:03] <magespawn> rather link it
[20:03] <inetpro> or let's try not to duplicate...
[20:04] <inetpro> keep it simple
[20:04] <inetpro> I like the idea of something about SA in the middle
[20:05] <captine> inetpro: you refering to the getting started page in terms of duplication???  was thinking of it just having 4 steps to getting it installed, all linked to ubuntu documentation, with a table of the distro's to choose from and linking to their respective download pages
[20:06] <captine> will mock it up and send it in for you guys to decide.  i take rejection well, so wont be offended if it is canned.. :).  Enjoying learning this nikola thing
[20:06] <inetpro> captine: do you use trello?
[20:06] <captine> i looked into trello when I saw you all talk about it.  signed in iwth my google account
[20:06] <captine> havent used it yet
[20:07] <inetpro> what's your username?
[20:08] <inetpro> or PM me your email address
[20:08] <captine> ok
[20:11] <inetpro> ok, created a card there for you
[20:12] <inetpro> but you're also welcome to do the whole branching etc
[20:12] <Kilos> ai! anothr one with no photo
[20:14] <magespawn> we will get there oom
[20:14] <Kilos> lol
[20:14] <captine> lol.  i thought it would pull in my google pic...
[20:14] <Kilos> ge and bp
[20:22] <inetpro> Kilos: heh!
[20:22] <Kilos> heh what?
[20:22] <inetpro> you moving lists around again?
[20:22] <Kilos> nope
[20:22] <Kilos> havent had time to touch it
[20:23] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[20:23] <Kilos> i dont see anything changed, what do you see
[20:23] <Kilos> all i did was add tunisia
[20:24] <inetpro> no worries really :-)
[20:24] <inetpro> I moved it back
[20:24] <Kilos> oh
[20:25] <Kilos> the ubuntu membership is supposed to be the 5th not 6th
[20:25] <Kilos> or is that a 5
[20:25] <captine> night all.  will continue tomorrow..  hopefully my son sleeps throuhg tongiht
[20:25] <captine> :)
[20:26] <Kilos> night captine  
[20:26] <inetpro> good luck and thanks for all the efforts
[20:26] <Kilos> ty captine  
[20:27] <superfly> I moved lists
[20:27] <superfly> start with least likely to do, and move toward done
[20:27] <Kilos> lol
[20:27] <inetpro> ha
[20:27] <superfly> it's about flow
[20:28] <inetpro> superfly: should I not archive that whole list entirely?
[20:28] <superfly> make things flow from left to right
[20:28] <superfly> inetpro: you can if it's over
[20:28] <inetpro> I was still feeling my way around when I started that
[20:29] <superfly> inetpro: with OpenLP releases, we make each release a list, and then we put stories into each list when they're done, and when the release goes out we archive the list
[20:29] <inetpro> makes sense 
[20:30] <inetpro> scenario might just be slightly different here, not?
[20:31] <superfly> yes, but the workflow still makes sense
[20:31] <inetpro> but do we have releases?
[20:31] <Kilos> lol
[20:31] <Kilos> strydom
[20:32] <inetpro> Kilos: nee man, surely we have to talk about these things
[20:32] <superfly> inetpro: nope, I'm just saying. if you have a bunch of stuff that all has a deadline of some sort, or a finishing point, it's nice to have a list just for that. we're unlikely to have such a scenario
[20:32] <inetpro> I know I talk too much but...
[20:32] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:33] <Kilos> at least im innocent
[20:33] <inetpro> I'd say our deadline should be month to month from meeting to meeting
[20:34] <inetpro> talking about that, I'm still waiting for Kilos to do something for me
[20:35] <Kilos> oh my
[20:35] <inetpro> or anyone else for that matter :-)
[20:35] <Kilos> what did i forget
[20:35] <inetpro> we need to look at the minutes from last meeting
[20:35] <inetpro> lot's of ideas expressed there
[20:36] <inetpro> post each idea in the "New ideas list"
[20:36] <Kilos> link to minutes
[20:36] <Kilos> then i must sleep
[20:36] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150127
[20:37] <Kilos> ty
[20:40]  * inetpro calling it a night
[20:40] <inetpro> oh wait
[20:40] <inetpro> see incoming email
[20:41] <inetpro> I like that superfly
[20:41] <Kilos> oh my, you gonna read your email
[20:41]  * Kilos looks if clouds are coming
[20:41] <superfly> incoming mail? I haven't got it yet...
[20:44] <inetpro> Sawubona Mhlaba! (Hello, world!) done
[20:44] <superfly> inetpro: oh, my latest merge proposal
[20:44] <superfly> right
[20:45] <superfly> inetpro: did you merge it yet?
[20:45] <inetpro> yep, and commited
[20:45] <Kilos> inetpro  you spoke about a link in the new site to membership
[20:46] <inetpro> hmm... right
[20:49] <Kilos> peeps must create wiki pages
[20:50] <Kilos> to do list for noobs
[20:53] <Kilos> thats about it
[20:53] <Kilos> apt-offline was mentioned as well and deb-delta server that Symmetria  said he would work on
[20:54] <Kilos> now i must sleep
[20:54] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:54] <Kilos> ty for all the hard work superfly  
[21:10] <inetpro> superfly: heh, I propose my first merge :-)
[21:11] <superfly> woohoo!
[21:12] <superfly> inetpro: approved. do you want to commit, or do you want me to?
[21:12] <superfly> commit/merge
[21:12] <inetpro> go for it
[21:13] <inetpro> \o/
[21:14]  * inetpro 's karma jumping up a few notches
[21:15] <superfly> k, just pushing my latest changes up
[21:16] <superfly> inetpro: don't forget to add a description to your merge proposals!
[21:16] <superfly> otherwise I don't have a commit message
[21:16] <superfly> (as it were)
[21:17] <superfly> I mean, I do, but make it easier for the committer
[21:17] <inetpro> ah, I'll remember that
[21:18] <inetpro> thought you see the commit message I post with bzr commit
[21:18] <superfly> committed
[21:18] <inetpro> cool, ty
[21:19] <inetpro> you have more changes coming?
[21:19] <superfly> no, though I can see your commit messages; but if you have a whole lot of commits I don't know which message to use, or I have to make one up...
[21:19] <superfly> yes
[21:19] <inetpro> ok, I can wait
[21:19] <inetpro> thanks for explaining 
[21:20] <superfly> inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/za-blurb/+merge/248678
[21:20] <superfly> see, my commit messages are not the same as my merge proposal's description?
[21:22] <inetpro> ok
[21:25] <inetpro> committed
[21:25] <superfly> woohoo!
[21:25] <inetpro> well done!!
[21:26] <superfly> all live on my test site
[21:26] <superfly> our Getting Involved page needs a little more TLC, but I think we have a workable site. What do you think?
[21:27] <inetpro> I like it very much
[21:27] <magespawn> can i have that link again? sorry
[21:27] <inetpro> magespawn: http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/
[21:28] <magespawn> really got to remember that
[21:28] <inetpro> just make sure you force a refresh to see the latest
[21:29] <magespawn> looking good
[21:29] <inetpro> superfly: will we be able to see old content from the current site somehow?
[21:29] <superfly> no
[21:29] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:29] <superfly> use wget and mirror it :-P
[21:29] <magespawn> the home page is looking very smooth
[21:30] <inetpro> superfly: terrible with all the errors
[21:30] <inetpro> maybe a backup of files and the database will be enough
[21:31] <inetpro> I think we should go live asap
[21:31] <inetpro> superfly: just do it!
[21:32] <superfly> I'll backup the files. the database is something I can do at a later stage
[21:32] <superfly> kk, let me go lock up downstairs, and then I'll backup and deploy
[21:32] <inetpro> cool
[21:32] <inetpro> magespawn: what do you think?
[21:34] <magespawn> i like it 
[21:34] <inetpro> +1
[21:36] <magespawn> i especially like the home page
[21:36] <inetpro> yep, me too
[21:38] <magespawn> a personal ocd thing, the two learn more and one get involved button should all be on the same level
[21:38] <magespawn> but that is just a personal thing
[21:38] <superfly> magespawn: totally, but we're going live with what we've got so long
[21:39] <superfly> then people can complain and they can fix it
[21:39] <magespawn> yes good idea
[21:39]  * inetpro agrees
[21:39] <inetpro> checked it on my mobile, also looks good 
[21:42] <inetpro> but as mentioned above the Getting Involved page really needs a bit of TLC 
[21:43] <superfly> Ladies and Gentlemen, we are live!
[21:43] <inetpro> oh wow, and he really is not playing
[21:44] <inetpro> tomorrow you pass with flying colors
[21:44] <magespawn> awesome, well done
[21:45] <superfly> inetpro: your turn, you get to tell people about the new site.
[21:45] <superfly> I'm off to bed. Good night.
[21:45] <inetpro> haha, ok
[21:48] <magespawn> good night superfly
[21:48] <magespawn> i am also off, good night
[22:06] <kulelu88> congrats inetpro 
[22:14] <inetpro> kulelu88: ty
[22:14]  * inetpro falling asleep
[22:14] <inetpro> good night
[22:14] <kulelu88> nite
[23:37] <Neo31> hello world!