| lordievader | Good mornining | 06:24 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | morning | 09:00 |
| lordievader | Hey Riddell, how are you doing? | 09:05 |
| Riddell | mostly awesome thanks lordievader | 09:07 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: if I ssh into a phone running ubuntu touch can I start a program through ssh and have it show on the phone screen? | 09:09 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: yes (at least in devel mode) | 09:10 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: what's the magic I need to do? I've set the MIR_SERVER env variable, do I need to do some Mir equivalent of xhost + ? | 09:11 |
| yofel | moin | 09:13 |
| Riddell | hi yofel | 09:13 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: webbrowser-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop | 09:13 |
| Riddell | interesting, what does that do tsdgeos? | 09:14 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Nice good to hear :) | 09:14 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: make it work :P | 09:14 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: i have no idea, i'm not the systems architect, you'll have to read the code | 09:14 |
| sitter | #outofcoffee | 09:18 |
| * sitter goes crying in corner | 09:19 | |
| valorie | kubotu: coffee for sitter, stat! | 09:31 |
| yofel | kubotu: order a big mug of java for sitter | 09:33 |
| * kubotu slides a big mug of java down the bar to sitter | 09:33 | |
| sitter | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5A-vz8ptNU | 09:36 |
| yofel | XD | 09:42 |
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| soee_ | any idea how to fix this: tomahawk: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtomahawk.so.0.8.2: undefined symbol: _ZN6Lucene12LuceneObject5cloneEN5boost10shared_ptrIS0_EE ? | 11:49 |
| BluesKaj | Greetings folks | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | hope the scrollbar width is globally adjustable soon, it's rather thin for large screens ...looks cool etc, but very impractical | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | on 15.04 plasma 5.2 | 12:15 |
| soee_ | :) | 12:16 |
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| BluesKaj | hey soee, I'm getting a lot of freeze ups here, how about you ? | 12:17 |
| soee | BluesKaj: not a single one :) | 12:17 |
| soee | at my work PC i had 2 freezes but they were related to PhpStorm IDE that uses Java | 12:18 |
| soee | but im impressed how smooth whole system works withouot propriety nvidia drivers | 12:19 |
| soee | just amazing, not earing in videos, hdmi etc. | 12:19 |
| soee | *tearing | 12:19 |
| sitter | earrings \o/ | 12:22 |
| soee | :~) | 12:22 |
| soee | sitter: any thoughts @ the tomahawk problem ? | 12:23 |
| sitter | nope | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | no tearing here, the 331 drivers sems fine on vbideos and opengl 3.1 idsno worse for freeze ups than 2.0 | 12:23 |
| sitter | soee: is that tomahawk from a package? | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | err video | 12:23 |
| soee | sitter: from their ppa, but i used Utopic builds as there is not Vivid yet /opt/spotify/spotify-client/Data/resources.zip/_linux | 12:24 |
| soee | ups, this one: https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 12:24 |
| soee | BluesKaj: on my laptop with optimus it was just terrible - tearing | 12:25 |
| soee | have noidea ow it behaves on single nvidia card | 12:25 |
| sitter | that'd be the cause then :P | 12:30 |
| soee | sitter: but it has to be fied by tha tomahawk packagers ? | 12:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/humor/shoot-self-in-foot.html for developers :D | 12:31 |
| sitter | it probably just needs to be built for vivid | 12:32 |
| sitter | vivid suppsoedly got a new lucene that isn't binary compatible | 12:32 |
| sitter | or you know | 12:32 |
| sitter | someone could update the tomahawk in vivid | 12:32 |
| sitter | ubottu: info tomahawk vivid | 12:32 |
| sitter | bot hates me | 12:32 |
| soee | :) | 12:33 |
| soee | vivid has 0.7 version | 12:33 |
| soee | *tomahawk version | 12:33 |
| sitter | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomahawk | 12:33 |
| sitter | terribly out of date | 12:33 |
| soee | yes | 12:33 |
| sitter | someone should fix that ;) | 12:33 |
| soee | fix the tomahawk package in ubuntu ? | 12:34 |
| * BluesKaj sticks with vlc, my needs are simple | 12:42 | |
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| sgclark | morning | 12:56 |
| lordievader | Hey sgclark, how are you doing. | 13:04 |
| Riddell | hola sgclark | 13:14 |
| sgclark | hi lordievaderand Riddell | 13:15 |
| sgclark | sec RiddellI have an odd error with kdepim | 13:15 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 13:17 |
| sgclark | err it will be a few, forgot I rebooted since | 13:17 |
| sgclark | it is failing on a link | 13:17 |
| Riddell | a link? | 13:20 |
| Riddell | what is failing? | 13:20 |
| sgclark | Riddell: also I created new repos in debian git under kde-applications and pushed to master, do I need to also create a branch or? and I am putting in ninjas, this correct? sorry I am rusty heh | 13:21 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yeah I guess you can also make kubuntu_vivid_archive branches | 13:22 |
| Riddell | sgclark: put it anywhere you like to convince yourself it compiles and installs and runs then upload to the archive | 13:22 |
| sgclark | unfortunately my pc was locking up and I had to reboot, the build log is empty so I have to build again to get exact error, a private lib is trying to link to another lib and failing. Interestingly the lib does exist within kdepim itself. Googling it came up empty | 13:23 |
| sgclark | Riddell: also is someone working on 14.4.5? I noticed the tarballs are up. After I finish my current list of course. | 13:25 |
| Riddell | I've also had my laptop lock up a few times recently :( | 13:25 |
| Riddell | maybe I should stop recommending vivid to people | 13:25 |
| sgclark | :( | 13:25 |
| Riddell | there is no 14.4.5 is there? | 13:26 |
| Riddell | there is Applications and Platform 4.14.3 but I don't think we have any use of that | 13:26 |
| sgclark | mm perhap I messed up versions, | 13:26 |
| Riddell | there is Applications 14.12.2 which would be nice to have packaged and backported | 13:26 |
| Riddell | the versions do get confusing | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, I had 2 lockups today so far and it's only 8:26AM | 13:27 |
| sgclark | gah yeah right, so confusing | 13:27 |
| Riddell | hmm | 13:27 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok after I finish these straggelers I will work on that | 13:27 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10073764/ | 14:07 |
| Riddell | sgclark: probably libcalendarsupportcollectionpage.so.4 needs added to a .install file | 14:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: err that makes sense. sorry for the noise lol | 14:10 |
| Riddell | :) | 14:10 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: if I have a simple qt5 test app which is just a QLabel should I be able to run it on an ubuntu touch phone? currently I seem to be able to run it but it doesn't display anything | 14:12 |
| tsdgeos | i don't think you can run QWidgets | 14:12 |
| tsdgeos | hmmm | 14:13 |
| tsdgeos | or maybe they show i remember a funny thing when running qmlscene without any parameter | 14:13 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: but don't spect QWidget apps to be supported | 14:13 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: yeah qmlscene --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop works fine | 14:14 |
| tsdgeos | for a definition of fine | 14:15 |
| Riddell | woo trippy, shows some file manager thing and lots of noise | 14:16 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: are you on vivid? or rtm? | 14:16 |
| tsdgeos | on vivid shows perfectly fine here | 14:16 |
| Riddell | vivid | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | weird | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | ubuntu-device-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel-proposed | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | is what i use | 14:17 |
| soee | what is the new icons status for libreoffice ? | 14:28 |
| Riddell | needs someone to finish off the script that converts the wiki page to the actual icons | 14:29 |
| Riddell | then submit it to libreoffice | 14:29 |
| Riddell | probably not too hard to do | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | ok 3rd lockup, trying to close system settings seems to be the action that locks upmy desktop, I'm able to to the 2nd VT/TTY, ctl+alt +F1 id unresponsive as is the return to the desktop ctl+alt+F7 and up from the TTY | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | but i had to reboot restarting sddm just says it's already running | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | sorry for the poor spelling and sentence sructure | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | err staructure :) | 14:34 |
| soee | BluesKaj: what section in System Settinge have you been viewing ? | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Where is this script at? | 14:36 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: which script? | 14:38 |
| Quintasan | The one for libreoffice that needs finishing | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | soee, it happened again when trying to close system settings colours, but this time I was able to log back in from the VT by restarting sddm | 14:39 |
| soee | BluesKaj: try to reproduce it and file a bug please :) | 14:39 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/update-icons2.py is what I half finished before I got distracted | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | Okay | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: about ktron/ksnakeduel | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | I | 14:40 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: it takes the wiki page text and tries to copy the right files into the right place http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/breeze-icons.wiki | 14:40 |
| sgclark | Riddell: did we write git-buildpackage-ppa? it is being annoying. If it fails initially it will fail silently again due to the tmp folder already exists. It needs to delete it if it does not want it there... | 14:41 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yofel did that I think, it was working fine for me then he made some changes and it likes to fail now | 14:41 |
| Riddell | sgclark: you may want to revert back to the last version I committed :) | 14:41 |
| sgclark | ok | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | soee, well, now it won't reproduce the lockup :) | 14:43 |
| sgclark | woah what is up with the version on kde-runtime, no wonder I am so darn confused | 14:43 |
| sgclark | workspace rather | 14:44 |
| Riddell | does workspace still exist? | 14:44 |
| Riddell | no it doesn't | 14:45 |
| Riddell | sgclark: what are you looking at? | 14:45 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/14.12.1/src/kde-workspace-4.11.15.tar.xz | 14:46 |
| sgclark | working on kdelibs atm tho, just stumbled on it | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Two solution to the ktron/ksnake problem | 14:48 |
| Quintasan | Get rid of ksnakeduel package altogether - no difference from Debian | 14:48 |
| Quintasan | OR convince upstream to rename the source to ktron and files inside either to ksnake or kdesnake, whichever they want | 14:49 |
| Riddell | sgclark: interesting, however you can ignore it since we don't have kde-workspace in the archive now (we have plasma 5 instead) | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | The latter one will probably require more time. | 14:49 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I was hoping to fix it upstream | 14:49 |
| Riddell | it's very unsatisfying having it called 3 different things upstream and of course packagers get it confused | 14:50 |
| Quintasan | It makes sense but I'm very afraid of "let us try contact the developer of ktron" | 14:50 |
| Riddell | I don't think there is one | 14:50 |
| Riddell | just use the kdegames list | 14:50 |
| Quintasan | Three people are listed in the header of ktron | 14:51 |
| Riddell | rdieter_work I think was the person who got it renamed before | 14:51 |
| Riddell | but having the old name(s) still around is messy and leads to the divergance we now have between debian and kubuntu | 14:51 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/0XyKUdCc | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | I think doing it like this would sort all our or problems | 15:01 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: nearly but eek no | 15:02 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: tron is a trademark and the current state is to remove enough of the trademark to keep red hat reviewers happy | 15:02 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: so don't add it back :) | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | But it's already named ktron and we ship it, what's the point? | 15:03 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: it used to be ktron and it was half changed to the mix it is now | 15:03 |
| Riddell | so finish the change is the way | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | Bloody hell. | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | I see. | 15:04 |
| Riddell | I'd propose "snakeduel" but "ksnake" would work too | 15:04 |
| lordievader | sgclark: Whoo, I fixed my nvidia + plasma5 problem. I installed a slightly newer version of the 304 driver than the one that is availble from the archive. Time to config 15.04 :D | 15:06 |
| Riddell | lordievader: :) | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | bah | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | Sent. | 15:06 |
| soee | lordievader: what problem ? | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | s/ktron/ksnakeduel | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | s/kdesnake/ksnake | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | And we should be fine | 15:06 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: yep | 15:07 |
| lordievader | soee: nouveau being very buggy and the nvidia driver from the archive resulted in a black screen + mouse cursor. | 15:08 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: nothing at http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-games-devel&r=1&b=201502&w=2 ? | 15:08 |
| soee | v.v | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: It's probably moderated or I need to subscribe first... | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | Eh. | 15:09 |
| Riddell | yeah you'd need to subscribe | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | Oh, not really, it awaits approval only | 15:11 |
| Quintasan | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-games-devel&m=142023459425411 | 15:11 |
| Quintasan | hue | 15:11 |
| Riddell | wow I have no memory of that | 15:12 |
| sgclark | lordievader: wow nice, where is this driver? | 15:14 |
| lordievader | Hmm, after a bit of testing I spoke to soon. KWin with the opengl backend still gives problems. I guess it is XRender for this machine. | 15:15 |
| yofel | Riddell, sgclark: what problems do you still have with git-buildpackage-ppa? (It does not behave the same as the bzr one if you expect that - intentionally) | 15:23 |
| sgclark | yofel: only in that if it fails once, it will fail silently again due to the tmp folder exists. I delete said folder and it runs as expected | 15:24 |
| yofel | re-running should also fix it. From what I see gbp cleans up what's in the way - but still fails. Then when you try again it works | 15:25 |
| yofel | a bit annoying indeed | 15:25 |
| sgclark | ahh, did not try re running | 15:25 |
| yofel | (might be because we're not using it the "official" way, but we don't want upstream code in debian git) | 15:26 |
| sgclark | gotcha | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Uh, mind if I rewrite that or refactor it? | 15:29 |
| soee | LibreOffice has not PL interface ? | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | I has | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | bleh | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | It has | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | Install libreoffice-l10n-pl | 15:30 |
| soee | ah indeed, why it is not installed by defautl when system locale is PL ? | 15:31 |
| soee | do i need ny special package for spell checking ? | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | It either didn't fix on CD or you did not enable downloading packages while installing | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | soee: dunno if it's going to pull it or not but install mythes-pl myspell-pl hyphen-pl | 15:33 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: go ahead | 15:33 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what are you talking about? | 15:33 |
| soee | in System Settings where we have spell checing section there are no entries related to Polish | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: soee says that there is no Polish locale for LibreOffice installed by default even if the locale is set to Polish | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | soee: LibreOffice has it's own spellchecking settings | 15:35 |
| soee | hmm | 15:35 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I've no idea how that works alas, I'd expect language-pack-pl to depend on the right stuff, but maybe it doesn't | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | I dabbled in that magic some time ago but now I don't know if that works | 15:37 |
| yofel | wouldn't libreoffice be part of the main language pack as it's stripped? | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | soee: Install language-pack-pl | 15:37 |
| Riddell | we need to get kde-l10n updated more importantly | 15:38 |
| soee | Quintasan: language-pack-kde-pl ? | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | no | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | language-pack-pl | 15:38 |
| soee | ok | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: let me check if I got this right, I'm supposed to map from Breeze to LO? for example actions/toolbar/document-print.svg -> cmd/lc_print.png using ksvgtopng ? | 15:40 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: yep | 15:42 |
| Riddell | well ksvgtopng5 :) | 15:42 |
| Riddell | the script does a checkout or a pull of the git at https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons.git | 15:42 |
| Riddell | and puts the icons into cmd/foo.png | 15:43 |
| Riddell | as lc_ and sc_ | 15:43 |
| yofel | Riddell: btw. could you please sponsor libkdegames from git when you have time? That didn't get uploaded with the rest of the 14.12.0 packages | 15:46 |
| soee | oh nice http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-15-04-to-Launch-with-Linux-Kernel-3-19-Most-Likely-472239.shtml | 15:57 |
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| Quintasan | ... | 16:12 |
| Quintasan | yofel: You don't happen to know if UserBase is powered by MediaWiki? | 16:12 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: it is | 16:13 |
| Quintasan | Splendid. | 16:13 |
| yofel | right ^^ | 16:13 |
| Riddell | I had to just download the text manually I think | 16:13 |
| yofel | Riddell: is there a reason why the last 9 calligra uploads are not in bzr? | 16:31 |
| yofel | (ok 8 without the nc rebuild) | 16:31 |
| yofel | Riddell: I just added a breaks/replace in bzr, please merge with the archive when you get to it | 16:35 |
| sgclark | Riddell: nepomuk is still banished right? | 16:56 |
| sgclark | nm seems I still had libsoprano-dev and shared-desktop-ontologies in my chroot so it built support, I have now removed them. | 17:01 |
| Riddell | yep nepomuk dead | 17:16 |
| soee | BluesKaj: ping | 18:37 |
| BluesKaj | soee, pong | 18:38 |
| soee | Wayland should replace x11 ? | 18:38 |
| soee | or X i think | 18:38 |
| BluesKaj | yeah X, that's the rumour , but I have no idea when | 18:39 |
| BluesKaj | seems like there's a lot of talk, but not much action | 18:40 |
| soee | what is the main difference ? | 18:40 |
| soee | performance ? | 18:40 |
| soee | modern code ? | 18:40 |
| BluesKaj | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1 | 18:42 |
| BluesKaj | that's an old article | 18:43 |
| soee | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-WCpNvRFM | 18:43 |
| soee | much smoother experance on wayland | 18:43 |
| soee | Riddell: do you know is Wayland officaily released ? | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | are you goiung to give it a try? Xwayland is available which is probly just an e\mulater running on X | 18:46 |
| soee | BluesKaj: i would like to see it in action but i can't break my laptop :) | 18:46 |
| soee | im curious whats the current status of it - integration with our system etc | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | soee, wayland has a chat here on freenode , but I'm looking at their website first http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ | 18:52 |
| yofel | soee: wayland is out for a while already, we have 1.6.1 in the archive | 18:53 |
| yofel | soee: but as with X11, it's not really useful if you don't have something that actually uses it | 18:53 |
| yofel | and kwin_wayland isn't finished yet | 18:53 |
| soee | yofel: kwin_wayland its a package to integrate it - kwin + waylad ? | 18:54 |
| yofel | it's kwin that uses the wayland protocol to do the window management and rendering, same how kwin_x11 uses x | 18:55 |
| yofel | there's some instructions how to run kde4 inside weston in some old blog post from mgraesslin. (I'm pretty sure that won't work with plasma5) | 18:56 |
| BluesKaj | bah!, was downloading some attached photos and the desktop froze again | 19:25 |
| soee | :D | 19:27 |
| BluesKaj | soee, wayland does look interesting ..think I'll look into it some more later | 19:43 |
| soee | BluesKaj: yup its worth waiting i think | 19:44 |
| BluesKaj | git clone only works about 50 | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | 5% of the time IME | 19:46 |
| BluesKaj | err50% | 19:46 |
| soee | uhm ? | 19:46 |
| soee | ok i did some cleanup, removed kmail, knotes, kaddressbook, kaggregator etc ;) | 19:47 |
| BluesKaj | something always breaks during the install | 19:47 |
| soee | BluesKaj: ping | 19:58 |
| soee | BluesKaj: there is fix released for a bug that caused system freeze, maybe it's the sam eproblem you have had: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340294 | 20:04 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 340294 in general "kwin_x11 sometimes goes up to 100% cpu usage and freezes the system" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 20:04 |
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