[06:24] Good mornining [09:00] morning [09:05] Hey Riddell, how are you doing? [09:07] mostly awesome thanks lordievader [09:09] tsdgeos: if I ssh into a phone running ubuntu touch can I start a program through ssh and have it show on the phone screen? [09:10] Riddell: yes (at least in devel mode) [09:11] tsdgeos: what's the magic I need to do? I've set the MIR_SERVER env variable, do I need to do some Mir equivalent of xhost + ? [09:13] moin [09:13] hi yofel [09:13] Riddell: webbrowser-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop [09:14] interesting, what does that do tsdgeos? [09:14] Riddell: Nice good to hear :) [09:14] Riddell: make it work :P [09:14] Riddell: i have no idea, i'm not the systems architect, you'll have to read the code [09:18] #outofcoffee [09:19] * sitter goes crying in corner [09:31] kubotu: coffee for sitter, stat! [09:33] kubotu: order a big mug of java for sitter [09:33] * kubotu slides a big mug of java down the bar to sitter [09:36] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5A-vz8ptNU [09:42] XD === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [11:49] any idea how to fix this: tomahawk: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtomahawk.so.0.8.2: undefined symbol: _ZN6Lucene12LuceneObject5cloneEN5boost10shared_ptrIS0_EE ? [11:51] Greetings folks [12:14] hope the scrollbar width is globally adjustable soon, it's rather thin for large screens ...looks cool etc, but very impractical [12:15] on 15.04 plasma 5.2 [12:16] :) === soee_ is now known as soee [12:17] hey soee, I'm getting a lot of freeze ups here, how about you ? [12:17] BluesKaj: not a single one :) [12:18] at my work PC i had 2 freezes but they were related to PhpStorm IDE that uses Java [12:19] but im impressed how smooth whole system works withouot propriety nvidia drivers [12:19] just amazing, not earing in videos, hdmi etc. [12:19] *tearing [12:22] earrings \o/ [12:22] :~) [12:23] sitter: any thoughts @ the tomahawk problem ? [12:23] nope [12:23] no tearing here, the 331 drivers sems fine on vbideos and opengl 3.1 idsno worse for freeze ups than 2.0 [12:23] soee: is that tomahawk from a package? [12:23] err video [12:24] sitter: from their ppa, but i used Utopic builds as there is not Vivid yet /opt/spotify/spotify-client/Data/resources.zip/_linux [12:24] ups, this one: https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [12:25] BluesKaj: on my laptop with optimus it was just terrible - tearing [12:25] have noidea ow it behaves on single nvidia card [12:30] that'd be the cause then :P [12:31] sitter: but it has to be fied by tha tomahawk packagers ? [12:31] http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/humor/shoot-self-in-foot.html for developers :D [12:32] it probably just needs to be built for vivid [12:32] vivid suppsoedly got a new lucene that isn't binary compatible [12:32] or you know [12:32] someone could update the tomahawk in vivid [12:32] ubottu: info tomahawk vivid [12:32] bot hates me [12:33] :) [12:33] vivid has 0.7 version [12:33] *tomahawk version [12:33] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomahawk [12:33] terribly out of date [12:33] yes [12:33] someone should fix that ;) [12:34] fix the tomahawk package in ubuntu ? [12:42] * BluesKaj sticks with vlc, my needs are simple === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [12:56] morning [13:04] Hey sgclark, how are you doing. [13:14] hola sgclark [13:15] hi lordievaderand Riddell [13:15] sec RiddellI have an odd error with kdepim [13:17] uh oh [13:17] err it will be a few, forgot I rebooted since [13:17] it is failing on a link [13:20] a link? [13:20] what is failing? [13:21] Riddell: also I created new repos in debian git under kde-applications and pushed to master, do I need to also create a branch or? and I am putting in ninjas, this correct? sorry I am rusty heh [13:22] sgclark: yeah I guess you can also make kubuntu_vivid_archive branches [13:22] sgclark: put it anywhere you like to convince yourself it compiles and installs and runs then upload to the archive [13:23] unfortunately my pc was locking up and I had to reboot, the build log is empty so I have to build again to get exact error, a private lib is trying to link to another lib and failing. Interestingly the lib does exist within kdepim itself. Googling it came up empty [13:25] Riddell: also is someone working on 14.4.5? I noticed the tarballs are up. After I finish my current list of course. [13:25] I've also had my laptop lock up a few times recently :( [13:25] maybe I should stop recommending vivid to people [13:25] :( [13:26] there is no 14.4.5 is there? [13:26] there is Applications and Platform 4.14.3 but I don't think we have any use of that [13:26] mm perhap I messed up versions, [13:26] there is Applications 14.12.2 which would be nice to have packaged and backported [13:26] the versions do get confusing [13:27] Riddell, I had 2 lockups today so far and it's only 8:26AM [13:27] gah yeah right, so confusing [13:27] hmm [13:27] Riddell: ok after I finish these straggelers I will work on that [14:07] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10073764/ [14:09] sgclark: probably libcalendarsupportcollectionpage.so.4 needs added to a .install file [14:10] Riddell: err that makes sense. sorry for the noise lol [14:10] :) [14:12] tsdgeos: if I have a simple qt5 test app which is just a QLabel should I be able to run it on an ubuntu touch phone? currently I seem to be able to run it but it doesn't display anything [14:12] i don't think you can run QWidgets [14:13] hmmm [14:13] or maybe they show i remember a funny thing when running qmlscene without any parameter [14:13] Riddell: but don't spect QWidget apps to be supported [14:14] Riddell: yeah qmlscene --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop works fine [14:15] for a definition of fine [14:16] woo trippy, shows some file manager thing and lots of noise [14:16] Riddell: are you on vivid? or rtm? [14:16] on vivid shows perfectly fine here [14:17] vivid [14:17] weird [14:17] ubuntu-device-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel-proposed [14:17] is what i use [14:28] what is the new icons status for libreoffice ? [14:29] needs someone to finish off the script that converts the wiki page to the actual icons [14:29] then submit it to libreoffice [14:29] probably not too hard to do [14:30] ok 3rd lockup, trying to close system settings seems to be the action that locks upmy desktop, I'm able to to the 2nd VT/TTY, ctl+alt +F1 id unresponsive as is the return to the desktop ctl+alt+F7 and up from the TTY [14:31] but i had to reboot restarting sddm just says it's already running [14:34] sorry for the poor spelling and sentence sructure [14:34] err staructure :) [14:35] BluesKaj: what section in System Settinge have you been viewing ? [14:36] Riddell: Where is this script at? [14:38] Quintasan: which script? [14:38] The one for libreoffice that needs finishing [14:39] soee, it happened again when trying to close system settings colours, but this time I was able to log back in from the VT by restarting sddm [14:39] BluesKaj: try to reproduce it and file a bug please :) [14:40] Quintasan: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/update-icons2.py is what I half finished before I got distracted [14:40] Okay [14:40] Riddell: about ktron/ksnakeduel [14:40] I [14:40] Quintasan: it takes the wiki page text and tries to copy the right files into the right place http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/breeze-icons.wiki [14:41] Riddell: did we write git-buildpackage-ppa? it is being annoying. If it fails initially it will fail silently again due to the tmp folder already exists. It needs to delete it if it does not want it there... [14:41] sgclark: yofel did that I think, it was working fine for me then he made some changes and it likes to fail now [14:41] sgclark: you may want to revert back to the last version I committed :) [14:42] ok [14:43] soee, well, now it won't reproduce the lockup :) [14:43] woah what is up with the version on kde-runtime, no wonder I am so darn confused [14:44] workspace rather [14:44] does workspace still exist? [14:45] no it doesn't [14:45] sgclark: what are you looking at? [14:46] Riddell: http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/14.12.1/src/kde-workspace-4.11.15.tar.xz [14:46] working on kdelibs atm tho, just stumbled on it [14:48] Riddell: Two solution to the ktron/ksnake problem [14:48] Get rid of ksnakeduel package altogether - no difference from Debian [14:49] OR convince upstream to rename the source to ktron and files inside either to ksnake or kdesnake, whichever they want [14:49] sgclark: interesting, however you can ignore it since we don't have kde-workspace in the archive now (we have plasma 5 instead) [14:49] The latter one will probably require more time. [14:49] Quintasan: I was hoping to fix it upstream [14:50] it's very unsatisfying having it called 3 different things upstream and of course packagers get it confused [14:50] It makes sense but I'm very afraid of "let us try contact the developer of ktron" [14:50] I don't think there is one [14:50] just use the kdegames list [14:51] Three people are listed in the header of ktron [14:51] rdieter_work I think was the person who got it renamed before [14:51] but having the old name(s) still around is messy and leads to the divergance we now have between debian and kubuntu [15:01] Riddell: http://pastebin.com/0XyKUdCc [15:01] I think doing it like this would sort all our or problems [15:02] Quintasan: nearly but eek no [15:02] Quintasan: tron is a trademark and the current state is to remove enough of the trademark to keep red hat reviewers happy [15:02] Quintasan: so don't add it back :) [15:03] But it's already named ktron and we ship it, what's the point? [15:03] Quintasan: it used to be ktron and it was half changed to the mix it is now [15:03] so finish the change is the way [15:04] Bloody hell. [15:04] I see. [15:04] I'd propose "snakeduel" but "ksnake" would work too [15:06] sgclark: Whoo, I fixed my nvidia + plasma5 problem. I installed a slightly newer version of the 304 driver than the one that is availble from the archive. Time to config 15.04 :D [15:06] lordievader: :) [15:06] bah [15:06] Sent. [15:06] lordievader: what problem ? [15:06] s/ktron/ksnakeduel [15:06] s/kdesnake/ksnake [15:06] And we should be fine [15:07] Quintasan: yep [15:08] soee: nouveau being very buggy and the nvidia driver from the archive resulted in a black screen + mouse cursor. [15:08] Quintasan: nothing at http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-games-devel&r=1&b=201502&w=2 ? [15:09] v.v [15:09] Riddell: It's probably moderated or I need to subscribe first... [15:09] Eh. [15:10] yeah you'd need to subscribe [15:11] Oh, not really, it awaits approval only [15:11] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-games-devel&m=142023459425411 [15:11] hue [15:12] wow I have no memory of that [15:14] lordievader: wow nice, where is this driver? [15:15] Hmm, after a bit of testing I spoke to soon. KWin with the opengl backend still gives problems. I guess it is XRender for this machine. [15:23] Riddell, sgclark: what problems do you still have with git-buildpackage-ppa? (It does not behave the same as the bzr one if you expect that - intentionally) [15:24] yofel: only in that if it fails once, it will fail silently again due to the tmp folder exists. I delete said folder and it runs as expected [15:25] re-running should also fix it. From what I see gbp cleans up what's in the way - but still fails. Then when you try again it works [15:25] a bit annoying indeed [15:25] ahh, did not try re running [15:26] (might be because we're not using it the "official" way, but we don't want upstream code in debian git) [15:26] gotcha [15:29] Riddell: Uh, mind if I rewrite that or refactor it? [15:30] LibreOffice has not PL interface ? [15:30] I has [15:30] bleh [15:30] It has [15:30] Install libreoffice-l10n-pl [15:31] ah indeed, why it is not installed by defautl when system locale is PL ? [15:31] do i need ny special package for spell checking ? [15:31] It either didn't fix on CD or you did not enable downloading packages while installing [15:33] soee: dunno if it's going to pull it or not but install mythes-pl myspell-pl hyphen-pl [15:33] Quintasan: go ahead [15:33] Quintasan: what are you talking about? [15:34] in System Settings where we have spell checing section there are no entries related to Polish [15:34] Riddell: soee says that there is no Polish locale for LibreOffice installed by default even if the locale is set to Polish [15:35] soee: LibreOffice has it's own spellchecking settings [15:35] hmm [15:36] Quintasan: I've no idea how that works alas, I'd expect language-pack-pl to depend on the right stuff, but maybe it doesn't [15:37] I dabbled in that magic some time ago but now I don't know if that works [15:37] wouldn't libreoffice be part of the main language pack as it's stripped? [15:37] soee: Install language-pack-pl [15:38] we need to get kde-l10n updated more importantly [15:38] Quintasan: language-pack-kde-pl ? [15:38] no [15:38] language-pack-pl [15:39] ok [15:40] Riddell: let me check if I got this right, I'm supposed to map from Breeze to LO? for example actions/toolbar/document-print.svg -> cmd/lc_print.png using ksvgtopng ? [15:42] Quintasan: yep [15:42] well ksvgtopng5 :) [15:42] the script does a checkout or a pull of the git at https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons.git [15:43] and puts the icons into cmd/foo.png [15:43] as lc_ and sc_ [15:46] Riddell: btw. could you please sponsor libkdegames from git when you have time? That didn't get uploaded with the rest of the 14.12.0 packages [15:57] oh nice http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-15-04-to-Launch-with-Linux-Kernel-3-19-Most-Likely-472239.shtml === tazz_ is now known as tazz [16:12] ... [16:12] yofel: You don't happen to know if UserBase is powered by MediaWiki? [16:13] Quintasan: it is [16:13] Splendid. [16:13] right ^^ [16:13] I had to just download the text manually I think [16:31] Riddell: is there a reason why the last 9 calligra uploads are not in bzr? [16:31] (ok 8 without the nc rebuild) [16:35] Riddell: I just added a breaks/replace in bzr, please merge with the archive when you get to it [16:56] Riddell: nepomuk is still banished right? [17:01] nm seems I still had libsoprano-dev and shared-desktop-ontologies in my chroot so it built support, I have now removed them. [17:16] yep nepomuk dead [18:37] BluesKaj: ping [18:38] soee, pong [18:38] Wayland should replace x11 ? [18:38] or X i think [18:39] yeah X, that's the rumour , but I have no idea when [18:40] seems like there's a lot of talk, but not much action [18:40] what is the main difference ? [18:40] performance ? [18:40] modern code ? [18:42] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1 [18:43] that's an old article [18:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-WCpNvRFM [18:43] much smoother experance on wayland [18:45] Riddell: do you know is Wayland officaily released ? [18:46] are you goiung to give it a try? Xwayland is available which is probly just an e\mulater running on X [18:46] BluesKaj: i would like to see it in action but i can't break my laptop :) [18:47] im curious whats the current status of it - integration with our system etc [18:52] soee, wayland has a chat here on freenode , but I'm looking at their website first http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ [18:53] soee: wayland is out for a while already, we have 1.6.1 in the archive [18:53] soee: but as with X11, it's not really useful if you don't have something that actually uses it [18:53] and kwin_wayland isn't finished yet [18:54] yofel: kwin_wayland its a package to integrate it - kwin + waylad ? [18:55] it's kwin that uses the wayland protocol to do the window management and rendering, same how kwin_x11 uses x [18:56] there's some instructions how to run kde4 inside weston in some old blog post from mgraesslin. (I'm pretty sure that won't work with plasma5) [19:25] bah!, was downloading some attached photos and the desktop froze again [19:27] :D [19:43] soee, wayland does look interesting ..think I'll look into it some more later [19:44] BluesKaj: yup its worth waiting i think [19:45] git clone only works about 50 [19:46] 5% of the time IME [19:46] err50% [19:46] uhm ? [19:47] ok i did some cleanup, removed kmail, knotes, kaddressbook, kaggregator etc ;) [19:47] something always breaks during the install [19:58] BluesKaj: ping [20:04] BluesKaj: there is fix released for a bug that caused system freeze, maybe it's the sam eproblem you have had: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340294 [20:04] KDE bug 340294 in general "kwin_x11 sometimes goes up to 100% cpu usage and freezes the system" [Major,Resolved: fixed]