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cyphermoxochosi: yes, the file is in git and in the source tarball, but doesn't get installed anywhere02:12
pittiGOod morning06:06
didrocksdesrt: can you comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1364070?08:04
ubot5Launchpad bug 1364070 in unity (Ubuntu) "vivid, utopic and trusty unity (7.3.1+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1) launcher addition through gsettings isn't picked up" [Medium,In progress]08:04
seb128larsu, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=e643ddfd168f81d80400cf67a0ff4b8808ea043c08:09
seb128thanks to attente_08:09
seb128good morning desktopers!08:09
TheMusowillcooke: Hey there.08:09
TheMusoAnd hello to everyone else. :)08:09
pittibonjour didrocks, seb128, and TheMuso08:13
seb128hey pitti, wie gehts?08:13
pittiseb128: okayish, I've got a bit of a headache, I didn't sleep too well08:14
didrocksdesrt: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74403008:14
pittibut I only have a half day today08:14
ubot5Gnome bug 744030 in gio "Add a method to force gio to notice newly installed desktop files" [Normal,Unconfirmed]08:14
seb128:-(08:14
didrockshey pitti!08:14
didrockspitti: oh, it's sick days for quite a bunch of people today :(08:14
pittiseb128: my wife has their official "become a state officer" ceremony and party today, so I'll go to Munich in the afternoon/evening08:15
pittididrocks: you mean "sick of rewriting patches" or actual germs?08:15
seb128pitti, have fun there!08:15
seb128pitti, fosflu apparently08:16
pittierk08:16
didrockspitti: germs yeah08:16
pitti<jono_bacon_mode>Eat your vitamines, people!08:16
TheMusolol08:18
darkxstpitti, vitamines don't help with germ factories !08:19
pittidarkxst: stop introducing scientific arguments! and eat your apple anyway! :-)08:19
darkxstpitti, the birds stole all our apples ;(08:20
pittiindeed, I guess painstakingly washing hands and avoiding handshaking etc. helps a lot more08:20
pittiseb128, didrocks: get well soon then! I hope you can get some rest in the afternoon08:20
TheMusoAnd sleep.08:21
seb128pitti, thanks!08:21
didrockspitti: I'm the only one being really ok with Laney at that table :)08:21
TheMusoIf you're run down, you are more likely to come down with something.08:21
willcookehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary  <-- this is desrt08:22
darkxstTheMuso, I satisfy that criteria even when I am not run down ;(08:22
darkxstthough I am pretty safe here was many 1000km's away from the Fosflu08:23
Laneypitti: what's a state officer?08:23
TheMusodarkxst: Yeah so was I.08:23
TheMusodarkxst: Although I still got a slightly irritated throat thanks to probably being slightly run down early last week and the sudden weather change in Sydney.08:24
pittiLaney: she works in the Bavarian ministry for surveying now; how do you call people who work for the state administration?  I thought "officers"?08:24
TheMusoI'm still trying to shake that off, nothing bad, just annoying.08:24
pittiLaney: or perhaps "public servant" or so?08:24
darkxstTheMuso, I get a cold everytime I catch the V/line into the city ;(08:25
TheMusodarkxst: Ouch.08:25
darkxstit is a serious germ incubator ;(08:25
Laneypitti: civil servant perhaps?08:25
pittiLaney: you tell me, you are the native speaker :)08:25
TheMusodarkxst: Yeah, and we all have different imune systems.08:25
LaneyI think so :P08:25
LaneyI don't think these guys get a ceremony for us though08:26
darkxstTheMuso, mine is particularly hopeless, had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and numerous other things as a kid08:26
TheMusodarkxst: Yeah I am sure that wouldn't be pleasant.08:26
willcookemlankhorst, morning! Did you manage to get Xmir sync'd with LP?08:28
didrocksLaney: \o/08:28
didrockstry harder DUDE!08:28
willcookesad face:  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/196680584/mlankhorst-xmir-xmir.log08:36
willcookemlankhorst, ^08:36
attente_larsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10069112/08:38
mlankhorsthmm..08:41
mlankhorst*pokes the git repo*08:42
mlankhorstwarning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.08:42
seb128qengho, what's the status of the chromium update?08:43
mlankhorstfixed08:58
mlankhorstwillcooke: ^08:59
willcookethanks mlankhorst09:01
mardySaviq: hi! I'm having trouble starting unity8 on an ideapad s3-10t, do you have some time for some questions?09:23
seb128didrocks, pitti, is there a recommendation on what to do with segfaulting services under systemd? should we use Restart=on-failure for system services?09:27
Saviqmardy, try me, but won't be overly responsive, @sprint in BRU09:28
didrocksseb128: well, we should fix them first, but yeah, Restart=on-failure is an option09:28
pittiseb128: touch uses Restart=on-failure a lot indeed; the restarts are throttled, so it should not be too harmful to use that09:29
didrocksseb128: if the service fails too quickly (like 5 times in 10s), it won't retry then09:29
pittiseb128: so for stuff where restarting does work, it makes sense as a fallback09:29
mardySaviq: ok, let's try :-) So, I'm running vivid, and installed the unity8-desktop-session-mir; when I log in, all I see is a black screen with a mouse cursor; unity8 is not running09:29
mardySaviq: is there a way to start unity8 from a terminal and see what's going on?09:30
seb128didrocks, pitti, I'm asking because playing with bluetooth I hit a few bluetoothd segfaults this week and the service doesn't restart which is confusing09:30
seb128would it make sense for me to add the restart to it?09:30
didrocksseb128: yeah, so let's use Restart=on-failure09:30
didrocksyeah, I think so09:30
seb128I looked at a few like udisks and noticed they don't set restart so I was wondering if we had guidelines on that09:30
seb128didrocks, thanks09:30
pittiseb128: dbus activation kind of provides that :)09:30
seb128oh, right09:31
seb128bluetoothd doesn't do that09:31
ChrisTownsendmardy: Could you pastebin /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log?09:31
ChrisTownsendseb128: Have you tried unity8 desktop today with all updates?09:33
seb128ChrisTownsend, no, is it buggy?09:34
* seb128 grabs test laptop09:34
seb128ChrisTownsend, ja, known issue09:34
seb128ChrisTownsend, sudo stop ofono; sudo restart network-manager09:34
ChrisTownsendseb128: Ah ok.  I'll try.09:34
seb128ChrisTownsend, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/141752509:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1417525 in telephony-service (Ubuntu) "Unity8 desktop lockscreen hangs on ofono issues" [Undecided,New]09:34
ChrisTownsendseb128: Is that supposed to immediately unblock the lockscreen?09:36
seb128ChrisTownsend, I think it was for me but I'm unsure now, maybe I sudo restart lightdm09:36
ChrisTownsendseb128: Thanks!09:37
seb128yw!09:37
Saviqmardy, check out ~/.upstart for any logs when that happens09:38
Saviqmardy, actually, do you have ubuntu-application-api2-test installed?09:39
Saviqmardy, there's a bug about this missing dep09:39
mardySaviq: yes, I installed it manually09:40
Saviqmardy, is anything crashing?09:41
mardySaviq: in the upstart unity8.log I can see a crash ("double free or corruption")09:42
mardyChrisTownsend, Saviq: the /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006991009:43
Saviqmardy, got a .crash file in /var/crash then?09:43
ChrisTownsendmardy: Ok, that log looks normal.09:44
mardySaviq: yes, but it was not uploaded09:45
mardySaviq: do you know how I can tell apport to upload it?09:45
Saviqmardy, apport-cli /var/crash/file.crash09:45
mardyChrisTownsend, Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/141845610:19
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1418456 not found10:19
Saviqmardy, subscribe us please10:19
mardySaviq: I just made it public10:19
Saviqmardy, ok, this seems to be going mir-direction10:21
Saviqmardy, but that might be a red herring too10:21
mardySaviq: btw, this is the ideapad from the Meego conference in Dublin; do you have one too?10:24
Saviqmardy, yeah, got rid of it some time ago10:25
mardySaviq: poor thing ;-)10:25
mardySaviq, ChrisTownsend: anyway, if you happen to have any things for me to try, you are welcome, I'll keep that machine running (and I don't need to do anything else on it)10:26
ChrisTownsendmardy: Ok.  Nothing jumps out of me aside from what Saviq has said.10:28
didrockspitti: hum, I'm crashing plymouth and get garbage until now, looking…10:40
didrocksat least, I detect connection/disconnect/reconnect10:40
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seb128Laney, larsu, easy review karma for you? https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/housekeeping-label-width/+merge/24872910:56
seb128Laney, larsu, upstream beat you at reviewing :p11:06
* seb128 commited to g-s-d git11:06
Laneynice11:09
seb128Laney, thanks for review :-)11:14
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didrockslarsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10072498/12:41
larsudidrocks: do a %c and pass a char, just to make sure12:43
larsualso, print i12:43
didrocksok12:43
didrockslarsu: i: 0, char:12:45
didrockssounds… funky12:45
larsufunky!12:49
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larsui should be 1, right?12:49
didrocksyeah12:49
didrocksshould I loop to printf the buffer as char to ensure?12:50
* larsu slaps forehead12:50
larsuouch12:50
didrocksit did happen! :p12:50
larsu%d _parses_ a string12:50
didrocksWAT?12:50
larsuerr, int. in a string. Like "14"12:50
larsuyou have 4 bytes which represent an int12:51
larsuin short: don't use scanf here12:51
* larsu is sorry for taking so long. Really shouldn't do anything critical today12:51
didrockstime to do some space engineering!12:51
didrocksso, %d parse a string12:52
didrocksso only one char12:52
didrocksright?12:52
qenghoseb128: Hi! chromium is built. It seems to work. Uploading soon.13:34
seb128qengho, great, I'm running the version from the ppa, confirmed to work fine here13:36
qenghoseb128: thank you.13:36
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willcookeqengho, \o/ great!13:45
qenghoseb128: do you mind uploading to V? I'll ask chriscc to upload to security when he's online.14:04
seb128qengho, can do, is that a pocket copy on vivid?14:04
qenghoseb128: that should work. That's what ccc does.14:05
qenghohttps://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages14:06
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willcookepmcgowan has just hit a bug very similar to this one:15:45
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/141829515:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1418295 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Black screen after resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:45
willcookeThis sounds like a U7 issue to me rather than a vid. driver15:45
willcookewhat do you reckon mlankhorst, seb128  ^15:45
willcookeand bregma for good measure ^15:46
seb128Laney, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/09/26/%23ubuntu-touch.html#t17:2215:49
bregmaa new graphics stack just got released in 14.10 (there's no new Unity stack in 14.10)15:49
willcookebregma, thx15:49
mlankhorstwillcooke: likely..15:49
seb128yeah15:50
willcookemlankhorst, is the new gfx stack under your control, or is this a foundations thing?15:50
mlankhorstwillcooke: the stack landed in trusty with lts-utopic, but this might be a bug in xxv-intel since an update was just released from -proposed15:50
willcookeoh, also - pmcgowan said this has been happening since around Oct - so it might be an old bug15:51
mlankhorstoke :/15:51
willcookedoes that change anything for you bregma? ^15:51
mlankhorstprobably does for me...15:51
pmcgowanI believe its always been the case in 14.10, or soon after release15:52
ChrisTownsendBlack screen after suspend smells of an X issue or lower than that of an issue in Unity.  If it was Unity crashing, then you'd probably at least get a wallpaper but no Launcher or Panel.15:54
ChrisTownsendLower meaning a graphics driver issue.15:55
willcookebut then, killing "unity-panel-service --lockscreenmode" /sometimes/ fixes it15:56
willcookewhich is weird15:56
seb128pitti, so, my reboot/shutdown hanging, can't access to vt915:58
seb128it works before I hit reboot so the option is correctly active15:58
ochosifwiw, we've had similar issues with light-locker in xuubntu16:01
ochosixubuntu16:01
ochosilocking and suspending plus vt-switching doesn't work too well16:01
ochosiclosing the lid seems more problematic on our side though16:02
smallfoot-Will Vivid get kernel 3.19, Wayland 1.7, Xserver 1.17?17:26
Laneydunno17:37
didrocksdunno17:37
seb128smallfoot-, do you plan to send patches?17:37
smallfoot-patched? just pull from git and compile17:37
didrocks"just" :p17:37
smallfoot-yeah, isnt there scripts for that?17:38
didrockssmallfoot-: maintaining components are a little bit more complex than that, otherwise, every distro would use the latest version of everything17:38
smallfoot-didrocks, no because they want to use old so they know they have tested it and it works17:38
didrocksor they can pull everything latest upstream and get everything failing to build and integrate17:39
didrocksif you want latest of everything and having the user figuring out why things don't align, they are distros for this17:39
seb128include bugs as well17:39
didrocksand it's ok, it's for some type of users17:39

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