[02:12] ochosi: yes, the file is in git and in the source tarball, but doesn't get installed anywhere [06:06] GOod morning [08:04] desrt: can you comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1364070? [08:04] Launchpad bug 1364070 in unity (Ubuntu) "vivid, utopic and trusty unity (7.3.1+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1) launcher addition through gsettings isn't picked up" [Medium,In progress] [08:09] larsu, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=e643ddfd168f81d80400cf67a0ff4b8808ea043c [08:09] thanks to attente_ [08:09] good morning desktopers! [08:09] willcooke: Hey there. [08:09] And hello to everyone else. :) [08:13] bonjour didrocks, seb128, and TheMuso [08:13] hey pitti, wie gehts? [08:14] seb128: okayish, I've got a bit of a headache, I didn't sleep too well [08:14] desrt: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744030 [08:14] but I only have a half day today [08:14] Gnome bug 744030 in gio "Add a method to force gio to notice newly installed desktop files" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [08:14] :-( [08:14] hey pitti! [08:14] pitti: oh, it's sick days for quite a bunch of people today :( [08:15] seb128: my wife has their official "become a state officer" ceremony and party today, so I'll go to Munich in the afternoon/evening [08:15] didrocks: you mean "sick of rewriting patches" or actual germs? [08:15] pitti, have fun there! [08:16] pitti, fosflu apparently [08:16] erk [08:16] pitti: germs yeah [08:16] Eat your vitamines, people! [08:18] lol [08:19] pitti, vitamines don't help with germ factories ! [08:19] darkxst: stop introducing scientific arguments! and eat your apple anyway! :-) [08:20] pitti, the birds stole all our apples ;( [08:20] indeed, I guess painstakingly washing hands and avoiding handshaking etc. helps a lot more [08:20] seb128, didrocks: get well soon then! I hope you can get some rest in the afternoon [08:21] And sleep. [08:21] pitti, thanks! [08:21] pitti: I'm the only one being really ok with Laney at that table :) [08:21] If you're run down, you are more likely to come down with something. [08:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary <-- this is desrt [08:22] TheMuso, I satisfy that criteria even when I am not run down ;( [08:23] though I am pretty safe here was many 1000km's away from the Fosflu [08:23] pitti: what's a state officer? [08:23] darkxst: Yeah so was I. [08:24] darkxst: Although I still got a slightly irritated throat thanks to probably being slightly run down early last week and the sudden weather change in Sydney. [08:24] Laney: she works in the Bavarian ministry for surveying now; how do you call people who work for the state administration? I thought "officers"? [08:24] I'm still trying to shake that off, nothing bad, just annoying. [08:24] Laney: or perhaps "public servant" or so? [08:25] TheMuso, I get a cold everytime I catch the V/line into the city ;( [08:25] darkxst: Ouch. [08:25] it is a serious germ incubator ;( [08:25] pitti: civil servant perhaps? [08:25] Laney: you tell me, you are the native speaker :) [08:25] darkxst: Yeah, and we all have different imune systems. [08:25] I think so :P [08:26] I don't think these guys get a ceremony for us though [08:26] TheMuso, mine is particularly hopeless, had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and numerous other things as a kid [08:26] darkxst: Yeah I am sure that wouldn't be pleasant. [08:28] mlankhorst, morning! Did you manage to get Xmir sync'd with LP? [08:28] Laney: \o/ [08:28] try harder DUDE! [08:36] sad face: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/196680584/mlankhorst-xmir-xmir.log [08:36] mlankhorst, ^ [08:38] larsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10069112/ [08:41] hmm.. [08:42] *pokes the git repo* [08:42] warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. [08:43] qengho, what's the status of the chromium update? [08:58] fixed [08:59] willcooke: ^ [09:01] thanks mlankhorst [09:23] Saviq: hi! I'm having trouble starting unity8 on an ideapad s3-10t, do you have some time for some questions? [09:27] didrocks, pitti, is there a recommendation on what to do with segfaulting services under systemd? should we use Restart=on-failure for system services? [09:28] mardy, try me, but won't be overly responsive, @sprint in BRU [09:28] seb128: well, we should fix them first, but yeah, Restart=on-failure is an option [09:29] seb128: touch uses Restart=on-failure a lot indeed; the restarts are throttled, so it should not be too harmful to use that [09:29] seb128: if the service fails too quickly (like 5 times in 10s), it won't retry then [09:29] seb128: so for stuff where restarting does work, it makes sense as a fallback [09:29] Saviq: ok, let's try :-) So, I'm running vivid, and installed the unity8-desktop-session-mir; when I log in, all I see is a black screen with a mouse cursor; unity8 is not running [09:30] Saviq: is there a way to start unity8 from a terminal and see what's going on? [09:30] didrocks, pitti, I'm asking because playing with bluetooth I hit a few bluetoothd segfaults this week and the service doesn't restart which is confusing [09:30] would it make sense for me to add the restart to it? [09:30] seb128: yeah, so let's use Restart=on-failure [09:30] yeah, I think so [09:30] I looked at a few like udisks and noticed they don't set restart so I was wondering if we had guidelines on that [09:30] didrocks, thanks [09:30] seb128: dbus activation kind of provides that :) [09:31] oh, right [09:31] bluetoothd doesn't do that [09:31] mardy: Could you pastebin /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log? [09:33] seb128: Have you tried unity8 desktop today with all updates? [09:34] ChrisTownsend, no, is it buggy? [09:34] * seb128 grabs test laptop [09:34] ChrisTownsend, ja, known issue [09:34] ChrisTownsend, sudo stop ofono; sudo restart network-manager [09:34] seb128: Ah ok. I'll try. [09:34] ChrisTownsend, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/1417525 [09:34] Launchpad bug 1417525 in telephony-service (Ubuntu) "Unity8 desktop lockscreen hangs on ofono issues" [Undecided,New] [09:36] seb128: Is that supposed to immediately unblock the lockscreen? [09:36] ChrisTownsend, I think it was for me but I'm unsure now, maybe I sudo restart lightdm [09:37] seb128: Thanks! [09:37] yw! [09:38] mardy, check out ~/.upstart for any logs when that happens [09:39] mardy, actually, do you have ubuntu-application-api2-test installed? [09:39] mardy, there's a bug about this missing dep [09:40] Saviq: yes, I installed it manually [09:41] mardy, is anything crashing? [09:42] Saviq: in the upstart unity8.log I can see a crash ("double free or corruption") [09:43] ChrisTownsend, Saviq: the /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10069910 [09:43] mardy, got a .crash file in /var/crash then? [09:44] mardy: Ok, that log looks normal. [09:45] Saviq: yes, but it was not uploaded [09:45] Saviq: do you know how I can tell apport to upload it? [09:45] mardy, apport-cli /var/crash/file.crash [10:19] ChrisTownsend, Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1418456 [10:19] Error: launchpad bug 1418456 not found [10:19] mardy, subscribe us please [10:19] Saviq: I just made it public [10:21] mardy, ok, this seems to be going mir-direction [10:21] mardy, but that might be a red herring too [10:24] Saviq: btw, this is the ideapad from the Meego conference in Dublin; do you have one too? [10:25] mardy, yeah, got rid of it some time ago [10:25] Saviq: poor thing ;-) [10:26] Saviq, ChrisTownsend: anyway, if you happen to have any things for me to try, you are welcome, I'll keep that machine running (and I don't need to do anything else on it) [10:28] mardy: Ok. Nothing jumps out of me aside from what Saviq has said. [10:40] pitti: hum, I'm crashing plymouth and get garbage until now, looking… [10:40] at least, I detect connection/disconnect/reconnect === alan_g is now known as alan_g|reboot [10:56] Laney, larsu, easy review karma for you? https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/housekeeping-label-width/+merge/248729 [11:06] Laney, larsu, upstream beat you at reviewing :p [11:06] * seb128 commited to g-s-d git [11:09] nice [11:14] Laney, thanks for review :-) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:41] larsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10072498/ [12:43] didrocks: do a %c and pass a char, just to make sure [12:43] also, print i [12:43] ok [12:45] larsu: i: 0, char: [12:45] sounds… funky [12:49] funky! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:49] i should be 1, right? [12:49] yeah [12:50] should I loop to printf the buffer as char to ensure? [12:50] * larsu slaps forehead [12:50] ouch [12:50] it did happen! :p [12:50] %d _parses_ a string [12:50] WAT? [12:50] err, int. in a string. Like "14" [12:51] you have 4 bytes which represent an int [12:51] in short: don't use scanf here [12:51] * larsu is sorry for taking so long. Really shouldn't do anything critical today [12:51] time to do some space engineering! [12:52] so, %d parse a string [12:52] so only one char [12:52] right? [13:34] seb128: Hi! chromium is built. It seems to work. Uploading soon. [13:36] qengho, great, I'm running the version from the ppa, confirmed to work fine here [13:36] seb128: thank you. === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:45] qengho, \o/ great! [14:04] seb128: do you mind uploading to V? I'll ask chriscc to upload to security when he's online. [14:04] qengho, can do, is that a pocket copy on vivid? [14:05] seb128: that should work. That's what ccc does. [14:06] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [15:45] pmcgowan has just hit a bug very similar to this one: [15:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1418295 [15:45] Launchpad bug 1418295 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Black screen after resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:45] This sounds like a U7 issue to me rather than a vid. driver [15:45] what do you reckon mlankhorst, seb128 ^ [15:46] and bregma for good measure ^ [15:49] Laney, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/09/26/%23ubuntu-touch.html#t17:22 [15:49] a new graphics stack just got released in 14.10 (there's no new Unity stack in 14.10) [15:49] bregma, thx [15:49] willcooke: likely.. [15:50] yeah [15:50] mlankhorst, is the new gfx stack under your control, or is this a foundations thing? [15:50] willcooke: the stack landed in trusty with lts-utopic, but this might be a bug in xxv-intel since an update was just released from -proposed [15:51] oh, also - pmcgowan said this has been happening since around Oct - so it might be an old bug [15:51] oke :/ [15:51] does that change anything for you bregma? ^ [15:51] probably does for me... [15:52] I believe its always been the case in 14.10, or soon after release [15:54] Black screen after suspend smells of an X issue or lower than that of an issue in Unity. If it was Unity crashing, then you'd probably at least get a wallpaper but no Launcher or Panel. [15:55] Lower meaning a graphics driver issue. [15:56] but then, killing "unity-panel-service --lockscreenmode" /sometimes/ fixes it [15:56] which is weird [15:58] pitti, so, my reboot/shutdown hanging, can't access to vt9 [15:58] it works before I hit reboot so the option is correctly active [16:01] fwiw, we've had similar issues with light-locker in xuubntu [16:01] xubuntu [16:01] locking and suspending plus vt-switching doesn't work too well [16:02] closing the lid seems more problematic on our side though [17:26] Will Vivid get kernel 3.19, Wayland 1.7, Xserver 1.17? [17:37] dunno [17:37] dunno [17:37] smallfoot-, do you plan to send patches? [17:37] patched? just pull from git and compile [17:37] "just" :p [17:38] yeah, isnt there scripts for that? [17:38] smallfoot-: maintaining components are a little bit more complex than that, otherwise, every distro would use the latest version of everything [17:38] didrocks, no because they want to use old so they know they have tested it and it works [17:39] or they can pull everything latest upstream and get everything failing to build and integrate [17:39] if you want latest of everything and having the user figuring out why things don't align, they are distros for this [17:39] include bugs as well [17:39] and it's ok, it's for some type of users