[01:01] <tkamppeter> Hi, I have uploaded HPLIP-3.15.2 to Vivid which depends on python3-reportlab. python3-reportlab (binary package) is in Universe whereas its source, python-reportlab is in Main. Do I need to report a MIR bug or is it not neede as the source is already in Main?
[06:50] <ypwong> starting from yesterday's ubuntu kylin 14.04.2 image, light-themes was removed. Does anyone know any recent changes in trusty that caused this?
[06:50] <ypwong> we reported the bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1418351
[08:51] <jibel> infinity, the release of 14.04.2 won't be this week, right?
[08:54] <darkxst> jibel, no
[08:55] <darkxst> jibel, seems the infinity bot forgot to tell any of the flavours ;)
[08:55] <darkxst> maybe ubuntu as well?
[08:55] <jibel> darkxst, yes, it seems so even for Ubuntu.
[08:55] <infinity> jibel: Oh jey, just the man I wanted to talk to.
[08:55] <infinity> s/jey/hey/
[08:56] <infinity> jibel: So, I intend to delay it for a week, but before I set a date, I wanted to ask you how much lead time you and your team need for your testing.
[08:56] <infinity> jibel: ie: to release next Thursday, when do you need RC images?
[08:58] <jibel> infinity, I won't have resources next week, we have another release to deal with. But to release on a Thursday we'd need images on Tuesday morning to give us 2 full days of testing and time for a possible respin
[08:58] <infinity> jibel: Err, oh.  Uhm.  Another release to deal with?
[08:59] <jibel> infinity, there is a release of the phone every 2 weeks, and next milestone is next week
[09:00] <elfy> the week after that - flavours will be dealing with beta 1
[09:00] <elfy> just mentioning that
[09:00] <infinity> jibel: So, we've never talked to phone people about aligning with a once-every-two-week cadence.  Ever.  What would happen if we'd collided?
[09:06] <tjaalton> if a package is listed as "valid candidate" on update_excuses, what's holding it back from migrating to vivid?
[09:31] <cjwatson> tjaalton: check update_output; update_excuses is only the first stage.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration
[11:23] <tjaalton> cjwatson: ah, I see..
[11:52] <tjaalton> right, kwin got built against the old libinput, meh
[17:33] <wxl> infinity: did we make a decision on 14.04.2?
[17:57] <wxl> elfy: did you have people testing trusty daily before we started trusting the official point release?
[17:57] <elfy> wxl afaik next week for .2
[17:58] <wxl> elfy: yeah i saw
[17:58] <elfy> no - they started once I'd seen it was available and pinged our testers
[17:58] <wxl> dang that sucks
[17:58] <wxl> i think with the 2 day window we're going to have to do a bigger lead up in dailies
[17:59] <elfy> we're not testing anything but vivid dailes - I assume you mean trusty milestones
[17:59] <wxl> yeah
[17:59] <wxl> that's the same boat we're in
[18:00] <wxl> and now i'm thinking we should do otherwise
[18:00] <elfy> nto sure what you mean
[18:01] <elfy> I guess I get half a day on you being UTC=more or less my time of the day :)
[18:01] <wxl> elfy: focus more effort on testing lts dailies
[18:01] <elfy> I won't
[18:01] <wxl> no?
[18:02] <elfy> it's an uphill struggle though treacle to get people to test the dev daily
[18:02] <wxl> yeah well i understand that
[18:02] <wxl> but you can at least have dreams :)
[18:02] <elfy> we'll test LTS when there's a milestone
[18:02] <elfy> wxl: ha ha ha
[18:05] <bdmurray> tjaalton: ready?
[18:13] <tjaalton> bdmurray: yup
[18:45] <wxl> elfy: one other thing. do we have any idea how to actually fix the problem?
[18:47] <elfy> I don't
[18:48] <elfy> I know if I remove ibus which has turned up it want's to then install some gnome-blah-centre - which purging removes all the qt5 stuff we've got
[18:49] <elfy> pretty sure there's a dependency change causing it - but I've not got the first idea where to look - someone else is :)
[18:49] <wxl> let's rephase, elfy: what causes it/ :)
[18:49] <elfy> no idea :)
[21:10] <w-flo> so 14.04.2 is probably postponed (though I can't find an announcement for that), but I wonder if the various xorg packages and mesa backports can move to trusty-updates soonish, i.e. before 14.04.2 release?
[23:18] <jdstrand> slangasek: hey, what seeds generated http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/trusty/daily/current/?
[23:19] <wxl> packing issues, jdstrand ?
[23:19] <jdstrand> no
[23:20] <wxl> well then it's just the rest of us having them then ;)
[23:20] <jdstrand> I see ubuntu-core.utopic and ubuntu-core.vivid seeds in bzr, but I don't know what generated trusty and lower
[23:20] <wxl> ah curious
[23:44] <jdstrand> slangasek: also, where are the seeds for snappy for ubuntu core?
[23:45] <jdstrand> slangasek: also, I noticed that ubuntu-core.vivid is still using 'include platform.utopic'. I'm not sure if that should be 'include platform.vivid'
[23:48] <jdstrand> slangasek: I guess the answer for trusty is the standard seed from ubuntu.trusty