[05:01] good morning [05:01] heh [05:01] jumping up and down [05:01] oh wow [05:01] beautiful [05:02] do you have to join a few seconds after I greet everyone? [05:02] ty so much superfly inetpro and captine [05:02] yes [05:02] im me [05:02] me you greet independantly [05:02] :-) [05:02] morning inetpro [05:03] Hi Kilos [05:03] if i dont hear a bloep it means you dont care [05:04] the sight is lovely hey [05:04] the fly did like 99% of it [05:04] looking great yes [05:05] i know, as usual, but you were there to support and give opinions [05:06] he must add it now on his wiki page so they can go look so long [05:06] one guy already wants to vote via email before the meeting [05:07] but im sure fly is in [05:07] Morning everyone [05:07] hi mazal [05:08] gaan kyk nuwe site https://ubuntu-za.org/ [05:08] eish and we have ourselves some more LoadShedding from 8:00 this morning [05:08] ons het n vlieg, n super vlieg [05:08] oh my goodness [05:08] id forgotten about that [05:10] The irc channel name is wrong I see [05:11] It says #openlp instead of #ubuntu-za [05:11] mazal: ouch! How did we miss that? [05:11] lol [05:12] superfly: please fix that first [05:12] inetpro: The one under "getting involved" [05:12] and its hard work to change with the propose stuff [05:12] no edit function [05:13] It looks very nice everyone who's involved [05:14] Nice work guys [05:14] Am on my cell now, will only be on pc much later today [05:15] guys, anyone can do this fixing, please try [05:16] Ok I will try [05:16] just follow the branching instructions [05:17] Oh no , that look to complicated [05:17] Not gonna go mess there [05:17] lol [05:18] ai tog! ;) [05:18] I don't karring with things I don't know [05:18] Especially when it's someone else's things I could break :P [05:19] sshh i must find the stuff [05:21] hi bduk [05:22] im in ubuntu-za here now must i go with new branch or does one edit an existing branch [05:22] Huh More Kilos Jy die bed nat gemaak vanmore dat jy so vroeg is?? [05:23] ek was gister ook voor jou hier man [05:23] sjoe [05:23] Seker?? [05:23] ja [05:26] eergister het ek laat hier geland [05:29] Ok Kilos [05:29] lol [05:34] hmm... [05:44] wbb [05:47] back [06:54] inetpro: heh, oops [06:54] inetpro: I'm only going to be able to fix that this evening :-( [06:55] hmm, no stress [06:56] you'll just have to live with the extra visitors in your channel [06:56] :-) [06:56] haha, unlikely that we'll get any [07:06] inetpro: also, mixed content doesn't work in the Fox [07:06] inetpro: so the chat widget doesn't load [07:06] need to fix that too [07:07] inetpro: according to trunk, it should be using #ubuntu-za [07:08] inetpro: see? [07:08] it's MEEEEEEE [07:09] inetpro: oh, I see now [07:12] ah, just the client details [07:13] not serious [07:13] ja [07:15] superfly: please merge [07:15] done [07:16] will upload when I get home [07:16] ok [07:21] Morning [07:21] o/ oh hi [07:22] * nuvolari reaches Zombie state -.- [07:22] got in bed just past midnight [07:22] * nuvolari mumbles something about board games taking a lot of time [07:36] mornings [07:41] morning ThatGraemeGuy [07:53] site looks great guys [07:54] thanks captine [07:55] off to work i go. [07:55] chat later, [07:55] I'm already there [08:03] lol [08:03] i just got back from doc appointment. daughter enters the world soon... so now heading [08:04] woohoo! [08:08] hey elacheche! [08:09] Morning superfly.. Greetings from North Africa → Tunisia :D [08:09] elacheche: I heard so! [08:10] :D [08:16] Dem eksdom [08:17] * mazal mompel net gekruide taal en se verder niks [08:22] You guys have the wrong channel listed on the website :) [08:22] Jacques_Stry: we know, the fix will go out tonight [08:23] haha, glad to see a local Ubuntu group going up - look forward to participating [08:24] Jacques_Stry: going up? we've been going for 8 years [08:25] O.O where have I been... if Dave didn't post this on google+ I would have never heard about this! [08:25] Ahem I meant Danie [08:27] where is the new site fly? [08:31] ThatGraemeGuy: https://www.ubuntu-za.org/ [08:31] Jacques_Stry: I figured that's where you found out. [08:34] :) [08:35] ta [08:40] morning Kilos [08:40] ai! thats my bit towards load shedding for the day hopefully [08:40] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:41] ohi superfly well done sir [08:42] Maaz superfly ++ [08:43] so inetpro did you share the same load shedding slot? === ThatGraemeGuy is now known as ThatGraemeGuy_ === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as ThatGraemeGuy [08:43] hi Jacques_Stry welcome to ubuntu-za [08:45] sjoe another strydom [08:45] inetpro you have company [08:45] * Kilos hides [08:51] 1 hour to go :/ [08:51] ai! [08:51] those 2 1/2 hours seem to take forever hey [08:52] Depends if I have to give up my laptop to someone who needs it more [08:52] oh my [08:53] Yeah, our Customer Service agents have iMacs [08:54] go hide with the lappy. let them use someone elses [08:55] i love the zulu greeting [08:56] Thanks Kilos [09:00] oh wow inetpro our new site is fast [09:00] https://ubuntu-za.org/ rocks [09:01] * Kilos jumps up and down [09:35] 25min to go [09:36] Nice website [09:36] you guys do know in Getting-Involved, under IRC, the channel is #openip [09:36] not #ubuntu-za [09:36] yip we gotta wait for fly to get home to fix it [09:37] he must have been almost asleep when he was finishing up [09:37] Ok [09:37] and multitasking as well [09:37] Just thought I'd let you know [09:37] ty Squirm [10:03] and we;re off [10:04] lol [11:29] Hi [11:31] Squirm: there's already a merge proposal to fix that. [11:31] superfly: ok [11:32] We spotted it early this morning [11:32] And it's one of my other channels, so I can send people on. [12:06] We're back online [14:33] hi guys from africa [14:34] hi rudi-is-me [15:17] Joy. Load shedding from 20:00 till 22:30 tonight. [15:17] ouch [15:18] Guess I'd better have my phone and netbook fully charged [15:18] catch a nap superfly [15:18] Not a bad idea [15:19] Yep [15:19] Damn Stage 3 and all [15:19] :/ [15:20] 2 cuts in one day :/ [15:20] My laptop is on 70%, hasn't even recovered from the last one [15:21] 3 hours until full [15:21] * Squirm closes chrome [15:21] Munching my power [15:25] ai! [15:36] closed chrome 10min ago, saying 56min till full [15:36] so it pretty much dropped my charging time for 2 hours [15:39] Home time for me [16:10] hmm... [16:23] inetpro: ping [16:27] inetpro: fixed site [16:31] ty for a wonderful job superfly and all the long hours and late night [16:31] s [16:31] and mornings too [16:36] superfly: pong [16:36] thanks [16:37] hi Tonberry go see https://ubuntu-za.org/ [17:10] i go eat [17:35] hmm... [17:37] superfly: Very nice site, dude. [17:37] thanks stickyboy! [17:37] I like the mandatory HTTPS, and I notice you support strong crypto. [17:37] TLS 1.2 + AES-128-GCM is winning. [17:38] hi stickyboy you havent joined #ubuntu-africa [17:39] its growing [17:40] Kilos: Too many channels, br0. [17:40] i think i will use it as part of my application for ubuntu membership tonight [17:40] But haiya, lemme join. [17:50] hi captine go see https://ubuntu-za.org/ [17:50] evening [17:50] ty for the help [17:51] lol. not even 100kb of text from me... :) have been showing the site to my 2 colleagues that I "converted" to ubuntu [17:51] great where are they [17:52] every bit helped the fly i think [17:53] captine: you can still add more [17:54] i know [17:54] may finish my "getting started" page and send it for you guys to review [17:55] i will never remember Nikola if I dont do some more [17:55] even if it doesnt go live :) [17:55] lol [17:57] So.. I am desperate for some South African success stories with Linux as opposed to Windows in the corporate world. My Windows IT are putting demo SharePoints in, Project Servers, SQL Server clusters etc etc and are not keen on looking at anything outside the Microsoft stack. [17:58] eish [17:58] Basically, looking for a reference site with an Intranet solution and project management and ideally Email etc, that is not linked to MS products [17:58] Liferay or Alfresco intranets would be great [17:58] with Kilos gathering more support on the African continent we can only succeed [17:58] have convinced out Infrastructure manager to demo Alfresco and Liferay [17:59] good luck captine [17:59] All our IT folks beleive MS is the cheaper option [17:59] haha [17:59] in terms of total cost of ownership [17:59] what is the distance from he top af africa, tunisia, to capetown? [17:59] what a joke [18:00] yip. no one will sit me down and take me through the license and support costs for MS [18:00] so I can do a comparison (even with Cannonical Top End support per server [18:02] unfortunately, Canonical's site is no good in terms of client references [18:03] Kilos: Total distance: 7,965.97 km (4,949.82 mi) [18:03] whew ty inetpro [18:03] Measure and calculate distance https://support.google.com/maps/answer/1628031?hl=en [18:05] captine: ye, unfortunately that seems to be true [18:06] too few peeps around who are not in it for the money [18:06] yet even they have to survive, it is a tough problem [18:07] captine: where are you based? [18:07] ty inetpro [18:08] Johannesburg [18:08] i think here by us [18:08] ah [18:08] 80 ks out [18:08] superfly: what did you still want to do with the getting-involved page? [18:14] Sawubona Mhlaba! [18:14] haha [18:14] It Works! [18:14] hi qwebirc64384 welcome to ubuntu-za [18:15] was that you inetpro ? [18:15] thank you oom Kilos [18:15] lol skelm [18:15] :-) [18:15] bye [18:15] chow now [18:16] ai! such bad manners [18:18] i forgot where ubuntu-cm is [18:18] sigh [18:18] superfly: the display area of irc on the web is a bit big on my laptop, can't see the whole page [18:18] inetpro: what's your resolution, 640x480? :-P [18:20] 1366x768 [18:21] sjoe [18:22] the fly must get some sleep so he can rattle them while i am thinking what to say [18:22] if the iframe says height="600", what does that mean? [18:23] that means height="600" [18:23] * Kilos hides [18:23] guess that means pixels? [18:23] sorry my pro [18:24] no man, not a problem... just testing [18:24] i use 1280X1024 [18:24] was the most comfortable resolution [18:26] ok, works perfectly when switching the browser to full screen [18:26] see using multiple workspaces has its advantages [18:27] we don't want too many peeps staying in the browser interface for too long anyway [18:27] better to tel them about a proper client asap [18:27] tell* [18:31] hi magespawn [18:31] you missing all the fun man [18:31] good evening [18:32] sorry [18:32] https://ubuntu-za.org/ [18:32] no im sorry you missing it [18:32] i saw that last night already, has it changed since then? [18:32] ya everything is fixed [18:32] no wrong irc addy [18:34] it is looking pretty cool [18:35] oh fly has power off now [18:35] till 22.30 [18:35] very nice hey [18:35] i prefered the side by side one for the home page, but both look good [18:35] and fast [18:35] side by side? [18:36] hi magespawn [18:36] i am currently being load shed for the fourth time today [18:36] hi inetpro [18:36] ouch [18:37] magespawn: eish! [18:37] yes the home page, with the what is ubuntu and the get involved etc. [18:37] that is seriously bad [18:37] i must also say that this is not in the same location [18:38] what is IT without electricity? [18:38] magespawn: if you resize your browser it displays side by side [18:39] if you make it wider [18:39] i understand that you can implement the the ip protcol using carrier pigeons [18:39] inetpro let me see [18:40] indeed it does change, now that is pretty cool, adapting to the level of zoom i have [18:41] i am on a small netbook at the moment [18:41] multiple workspaces ftw [18:42] woo! Cape Town FTW still on stage 2 [18:42] haha [18:46] i think it was so warm up here today the instant the power came on, all the aircons kicked in and tripped it off again [18:46] ai! [18:48] people started moaning at me, because the routers and that went off after 4 hours of load shedding, and did i not just put a ups in last week? [18:48] sjoe [18:50] nothing like dodgy power to really test you setup and systems [18:50] s/you/your [18:51] haha [18:56] our office park was on generator for about 4 hours... [18:56] am sure they will "forget" to get more diesel and we will have no power tomorrow [18:56] lol [18:57] ai! [18:57] when phoning in to report a eskom fault etc you get a helpful voice menu that says if you would like to you may report this fault online at www.eskom.co.za [18:58] hi captine [18:58] hi there [18:58] how big is the generator? [18:58] havent seen it, but must be pretty big. we have 100 people on the top floor and some offices are on the second floor, plus there are more buildings in the park [18:59] whew [18:59] our legal chap recons we will get at least a R10 000 bill for diesel this month, if not more.... just for our share [18:59] just as well the fuel price dropped [18:59] yip [18:59] * Squirm looks around [18:59] that is hectic [19:00] Hello [19:00] hi Squirm [19:00] howdy [19:01] hi Squirm [19:02] haha guys, I beat you all [19:03] how so? [19:03] in Hatfield we have been without power since 10:39 yesterday and it's still down [19:03] running on generator all the time [19:03] wow [19:04] * inetpro even stopped complaining [19:04] direct pipeline from sasol just for you inetpro [19:05] lol [19:05] really testing the generator to the limits [19:06] do you have critical stuff that needs to stay on? [19:06] ya govt servers [19:07] thats not critical [19:07] it is man [19:07] the rest of the government does not work, so they do not need the computers [19:07] well at least it's not a hospital but I consider servers and many other stuffs as quite critical [19:08] Heh, well, they've assured everyone that power will stay on for the State of the Nation address [19:08] :D [19:09] which only 1/3 of the population can watch [19:09] lol [19:09] Indeed [19:09] then how will the pro find time to be here if nothing is working and he cant even charge his cell [19:09] when is the SON even? [19:10] in Richards Bay the last place to be switched off is BHP Hillside Aluminium, even the hositals go off before them [19:10] haha ya money talks [19:10] I spoke to some who's friend works there [19:11] * inetpro lost touch with the real world a long time ago [19:11] They said that Eskom calls them and tells them they're going off [19:11] so... the other day Eskom called them [19:11] so they shut down the plant [19:11] the whole factory [19:11] so [19:12] Eskom decided not to turn the power off :P [19:12] yup and it takes about 2 weeks to get everything running again [19:12] ai! [19:12] yikes! [19:12] inetpro: is that a good thing or a bad thing? [19:12] So they went down for nothing - AFTER a phone call from Eskom [19:13] magespawn you also missed my new project [19:13] Squirm: quite funny i also have a friend who works there [19:13] peeps are working me to a standstill [19:13] the pro is a slave driver [19:13] ? [19:13] magespawn: was the info correct? [19:14] magespawn: I think I was chatting to a colleague at work. [19:14] and he mentioned it [19:14] ah we only infrequently [19:14] ^talk [19:14] http://slexy.org/view/s2RNrWvZLY [19:15] ah [19:15] thats my connection mail [19:15] ended up here #ubuntu-africa [19:16] cool idea Kilos [19:16] Nice Kilos [19:16] yeah im happy. 9 countries have joined [19:17] can only get bigger [19:17] inetpro: what did you mean "when is the SON even?" lost me completely there [19:17] if i dont get membership one of you have to take over [19:17] State of the Nation [19:17] magespawn: SON = state of the nation address [19:17] sorry [19:18] just checked... it's next week on the 12th actually [19:18] inetpro: 12th [19:18] afaik [19:18] ahh right, bit slow on the uptake there, going to blame that on eskom too [19:18] lol [19:18] lol [19:19] www.gov.za/state-nation-address-2015 [19:19] 12 February. President Jacob Zuma will present the State of the Nation Address (SoNA) to a joint sitting of Parliament at 19h00 on Thursday, 12 February 2015. [19:19] inetpro: s/SON/SoNA/ [19:19] :D [19:19] but then I didn't know that until a few seconds ago [19:20] the people are all at home but the lights are not on [19:20] rofl [19:22] not to sure if the hamster is in the cage, but the wheel is squeeking [19:22] hhe [19:22] hehe as well [19:23] Some parts of the Cape Town CDB are never load shed. [19:23] I know this because I worked through load shedding today... we still had power. [19:23] superfly: find one and move there [19:23] magespawn: I'm actually quite glad we don't. we have SOOOO much work to do [19:23] http://prometheus.io/docs/introduction/install/ [19:23] Compiling Prometheus... [19:24] (yeah, that's right, I just said that I WANT to work) [19:24] stickyboy: I heard of that the other day... lemme check it out [19:24] Kilos: you ready? [19:24] i hope so superfly [19:24] nervous [19:25] is that tonight? [19:25] too important to not make it [19:25] ya magespawn at mignight [19:25] good luck you two [19:25] what is prometheus? [19:26] magespawn: a monitoring system built by the folks at SoundCloud [19:27] i see, just read the overview, sounds very useful [19:31] Go is cool. [19:31] I love that the resulting binaries have no runtime dependencies. [19:32] meh. [19:32] what sort of systems can you use it to monitor/ [19:33] magespawn: I have 40 servers, which have several disks each... :D [19:33] And dozens of web servers... etc... [19:33] Those kinda things. :D [19:33] Squirm: oops, right [19:34] sounds like something i need to investigate [19:35] magespawn: devops people use it also, for like API stuff. [19:35] User registrations, HTTP return codes, etc. [19:36] I'm not a dev guy, so I just wanna know when my servers are up or down, plus historical trends. [19:36] might also be good thing to monitor webservers for attacks [19:37] magespawn: Yah [19:40] i also have several adsl connections, and asterisk servers that i need to keep an eye on [19:52] magespawn: Asterisk, cool. [20:01] bed time, good night all [20:12] eish! [20:12] The South African Press Association (Sapa) will send out its last story at midnight on March 31 [20:12] deserter! [20:13] inetpro: heh. not terribly surprised :-( [20:13] sad news man [20:13] ai! [20:13] been in existence since 1938 [20:14] i ran cables to connect the reuters things for them in durbs [20:14] feels like 100 years ago [20:15] I first learned about SAPA 25 years ago [20:15] had to put up modems so our guys could get a direct feed from them [20:16] hmm... [20:16] well actually a modem [20:16] think it was my first modem I ever worked with [20:17] the cables i ran were up in the air from building to building to connect them directly to the telkom exchange [20:17] trying to work out when it was [20:18] think it was still 1200 baud rates or even less [20:19] must be 28 or 9 years ago [20:19] ok, not exactly 25 years ago but close [20:20] we are too old man [20:20] deserter! [20:20] * superfly doesn't really have a story like that [20:20] and that ^^ ? [20:21] inetpro: that was for magespawn [20:21] lol [20:21] ah [20:21] he is also old man [20:21] all I can say about SAPA is that I wrote a system that IOL used back in the day for collecting stories from SAPA, AP, Reuters, etc. [20:25] oh well at least we did something for them [20:26] are we joing them early superfly ? its #ubuntu-meeting hey? [20:26] joining [20:39] i go wash dishes and make coffee to try wake up a bit [20:41] good idea [20:42] Kilos: yes, but probably no sooner than an hour [20:44] cool ill join when you do [21:01] yay! [21:01] looks like power is back on at the office [21:02] yay [21:22] Love it when all my tests pass! [21:23] what tests superfly [21:23] code tests [21:24] I write code that tests my code [21:24] you too clever man [21:25] so stallman is giving a speech in algiers on saterday [21:25] that will grow my channel if nothing else does [21:25] i mean the africa channel [21:25] my project channel [21:26] superfly you opened a can of worms [21:26] growning like weeds [21:27] Kilos: it's good for you, keeps you busy. [21:27] sjoe [21:31] 7 of the 18 african teams are already joined [21:32] hi Trixar_za you up late hey [21:32] Yeah, I was angry earlier [21:32] again [21:33] you must relax more, anger makes you old quicker [21:34] Yeah, I got blocked from making comments and likes because I responded to a bad joke by the one admin with another joke. [21:34] lol [21:34] She didn't take it well. But what do you expect for insecure 19 year olds? :/ [21:34] eish [21:39] The fact that you can't make your case is the maddening part of facebook. If it was like on IRC where I could contact the person that banned or kicked me, then it would be fair. [21:39] Hell, on IRC people atleast warn you before they take a drastic step :/ [21:40] i dont like chatting on fb at all [21:40] I drag myself onto FB once a day on my PC\ [21:40] I don't have it on my phone anymore [21:42] Yeah, I think I need to cut back on it. Social Media is a kids thing and I'm starting to get too old to care about their antics :P [21:43] lol [21:43] * superfly prefers his code [21:46] superfly we must join i think [21:47] ek kom nou [21:47] ok [21:47] moet eers hierso klaar maak [21:50] OK, let's go... if I can find that channel again [21:50] #ubuntu-meeting [22:08] ai! [22:08] sjoe [22:27] congrats Kilos and superfly [22:28] Thanks Neo31 [22:28] ty Neo31 [22:28] \o/ [22:28] w00000t [22:28] well done guys!! [22:28] * Kilos jumps up and down [22:29] ty for the support inetpro Neo31 [22:29] eish! [22:29] and I even forgot to add something, damn!!!! [22:29] lol [22:29] * inetpro spoke with drubin via email earlier today [22:29] he was very quick to reply as usual and said due to the timing he would unfortunately not be able to make it to the meeting but asked me to convey a message of good luck to Kilos in the hope that his testimonial will be enough for him to succeed [22:29] tell me ill use it for you [22:29] next month [22:29] today = yesterday [22:30] great tell david ty very much [22:30] wow im still shaking [22:30] enjoy it man! [22:31] how does one sleep after this [22:31] lool Kilos [22:31] let's go party [22:31] :p [22:31] Kilos: you put your head on the pillow and close your eyes [22:32] * inetpro has to do just that now [22:32] good night [22:32] lol its the spinning inside that wont stop [22:32] night all ty for the help and support [22:32] sleep tight [22:32] damn u sleep early guys [22:32] night everyone [22:32] Neo31: it's after midnight [22:32] ok ill stay up some more [22:32] 1am ? [22:33] hum i see [22:33] :) [22:33] 00:30 [22:33] ah ok [22:33] and I have to be up at 6am [22:33] sleep tight my fly [22:33] dankie oom [22:33] wow 6am ? damn [22:33] i hate that [22:34] i'm lucky i don't have to wake up that early [22:34] anyway nice to meet u guys [22:34] btw superfly [22:34] have u don't some python/qml before ? [22:35] just a quick yes or now, we can talk tomorrow or another day :) [22:35] hes gone i think [22:35] yep [22:35] catch him tomorrow evening [22:35] i'll ask him another time [22:35] yep [22:36] too busy at work to chat [22:36] gotcha [22:36] i understand that :) [22:36] gotta go afk [22:36] c u soon Kilos [22:36] ty for the support Neo31 [22:36] ill be online tomorrow [22:36] or later today [22:37] Neo31: I've done Python, but not much QML [22:38] night all. sleep tight