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knomeochosi, we'll want to covert the terminal color scheme into a preset and ship it01:07
elfyochosi: caught up with all the trusty tests - which have all now got at least 1 result07:47
elfyreported bug 141837707:48
ubottubug 1418377 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141837707:48
elfyand have critically failed all of my tests - so if anyone from -release is looking at what can be released later I'd hope that 10 fails out of 10 will jog a memory or two :)07:49
ochosiknome: sounds good, are you taking that on?08:03
ochosibluesabre: since my ubiquity-panel branch has been merged, could you please look at the packaging for that file? seems that while it's in the source tarball it's not getting installed yet: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/ubiquity-panel-bg.png08:05
ochosibluesabre: btw, the same goes for the emerald theme and everything else in greybird's top dir (speaking of vivid / shimmer daily ppa)08:06
ochosielfy: thanks for that08:10
ochosii guess we can't be very optimistic about this getting fixed08:10
elfyI'm not08:10
ochosi(in time, that is)08:10
elfyyea08:10
elfythough if they do manage in the next few hours to get something we can rebuild08:11
elfyit won't take long to do a few smoketests to ensure it's all gone08:11
elfyI suspect this time tomorrow morning we'll not have released it though08:12
ochosiyup08:16
ochosijust as a note, i have a meeting at work for the next few hours, so i won't be around to ping/handle people08:16
ochosiwill be back in about 3 though08:16
elfyok08:16
elfyI'll be gone in an hour till I get back too08:17
brainwashelfy: why xubu default settings? aren't the extra packages pulled in by xubuntu-meta or some ubuntu core package?08:21
elfyochosi: pretty sure knome can request rebuilds still, need to check that bluesabre can as well 08:21
elfybrainwash: just ignore that bug thanks08:22
elfyit's just something that I did quickly so I could critically fail all the .2 tests08:22
elfyand if there was an oojumyflip package I would have used that 08:22
brainwashok, ToZ did the same (report against default settings)08:23
brainwashwhich triggered that our SRU one failed08:23
elfyhowever if YOU would like to run through the test and report against each and everything that's pulled in be my guest :)08:23
brainwashok08:25
brainwashtag has been already removed from bug 129229008:25
ubottubug 1292290 in xfce4-settings "[SRU] Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129229008:25
brainwashno failed anymore08:25
brainwashbut still, so many people are subscribed to the report ^ and no one has tested + verified it so far :/08:26
elfyhappens08:27
elfybrainwash: if I remember I'll check that tomorrow and verify 08:28
brainwashyou could even use the 14.04.2 iso which has/had -proposed enabled by default :)08:28
brainwashthanks08:29
elfybrainwash: when I do it - I'll do it on hardware not vm08:30
elfythat's a lot of words ... 08:32
elfywhat's actually wrong? 08:32
brainwashcomment #31 is the important one. you reassign one of these actions to another keybind and relog08:34
brainwashafter login the new keybind should still work08:34
elfybrainwash: ok - thanks 08:36
elfyI am though a bit dubious about verification only being done by one or two people 08:37
elfyif it's that important then there should be more 08:37
elfyand did you verify it? 08:37
brainwashit's a backport from vivid08:37
brainwashwell, I fixed the xml and in vivid and tested it ofc08:37
brainwash-and08:37
elfybut not in trusty? 08:37
brainwashno, otherwise I would have verification-done it already08:38
elfybit ironic complaining about people not testing it then :)08:38
brainwashI did my part08:39
brainwashit's not a SRU with 1 or 2 subscribers08:39
elfyyea I understand *that*08:39
Unit193(Though, I tend to think approving it from top down isn't great either.)08:40
elfydoes beg the question that if 36 people are affected then it should be verified by more than 1 or 2 08:40
brainwashit's a bit annoying for people that the report is spammed with comments and it's not that easy to focus on the essential stuff08:41
elfyyea but that's LP for any bug with more than a heat of 6 ... 08:41
brainwashmaybe some up/down vote system could help08:41
brainwashmmh, I'll have to request that08:42
elfyI doubt it 08:42
elfydon't expect me to mark it as affecting me :p08:42
brainwashI could visually highlight helpful comments08:42
elfyochosi: so, looks like delayed for a week (currently) 09:20
ochosielfy: ok, that is actually good news09:39
elfyyea 09:40
elfyat least it wasn't just us - I think gnome have issues and I know lubuntu do :)09:41
bluesabrebrainwash: if you can reproduce the bug and the fix, there is nothing wrong with reporting your result, even if it is your bug... especially if that helps things get out of -proposed...10:52
ochosihey bluesabre 10:53
bluesabrewhen you do report on your own bug, I think there is a benefit in laying out all the steps you do so that you are not suspicious and others can verify even your result10:53
bluesabrehey ochosi10:53
ochosiso the ll patch was accepted for xfpm10:53
ochosijust needs some small warnings fixed10:53
bluesabresince Greybird has multiple themes in a single folder, we have to be explicit about what installs where, so the ubiquity panel is not currently installed10:54
bluesabreso I can fix that today10:54
ochosiah ok10:54
ochosisure, no rush10:54
bluesabrejust need to know where things need to go10:54
ochosiok, so the ubiquity png has to "stay" where it is10:54
ochosii.e. greybird's toplevel folder /usr/share/themes/Greybird10:54
bluesabreok10:54
ochosioh also, i might do another theme point release soonish10:55
ochosisince i fixed the gtk3 spinner10:55
bluesabreok10:56
bluesabreping me when I need to package it10:56
ochosiwill do10:56
ochosiyou can test it meanwhile, if you want10:56
ochosiit's already in shimmer-daily10:56
bluesabrealso, do you have bluetooth on your computer and a bluetooth device?10:56
ochosiyeah i do10:56
bluesabrethe error statusbar used in blueman is black10:56
bluesabremaking it impossible to read the actual error10:57
ochosihm, not sure i know what you mean exactly10:57
ochosiwanna show me a screener of that?10:57
bluesabreI'll try to reproduce now10:57
ochosik10:57
bluesabrecan't always get a bluetooth error :)10:57
ochosi:)10:57
bluesabregot it10:58
ochosioh, "good" :]10:58
bluesabreactually10:58
bluesabreits black in numix too10:58
bluesabreso its probably a blueman issue10:58
ochosiwhat, black on black?10:58
ochosiwell, to know whether it's a theme issue, check ambiance or adwaita10:59
ochosisince satya started the sass port, the theme in git master hasn't received a ton of attention (also, he seems busy with work)10:59
bluesabrelooks fine in adwaita10:59
bluesabreits black on every theme except adwaita, and blue on albatross11:00
ochosihmm, ok, well since it's gtk3, fire up the inspector?11:01
ochosior if i can reproduce it, i can debug it11:01
bluesabrehttps://imgur.com/iRC0C9u11:01
knomeochosi, will look at it11:01
ochosibluesabre: mind to check with inspector what sort of widget that is? (they should really use infobars...)11:02
bluesabrehttp://i.imgur.com/eREUhPR.png11:03
bluesabrethings that have used gtk for a long time do not use gtk3 correctly11:04
ochosiyeah11:04
ochositrue that11:04
bluesabre"what? you mean there are new widgets since 2008?"11:04
ochosicould you also check what classes the blueman+gui widget has?11:04
ochosithe hbox doesn't have any bg11:05
ochosiso obviously that's not it11:05
ochosibut yeah, always fun to see an HBox in a Gtk3 app :)11:05
bluesabreno classes11:06
ochosi:/11:06
ochosilike, nowhere?11:06
ochosiwith no classes at all, i'd expect a normal bg_color11:06
bluesabreblueman+gui+MessageArea has no defined classes11:06
ochosihm11:07
ochosiguess i have to try to reproduce that then11:07
bluesabrewhat does adwaita do to not make the default background black?11:08
ochosiwho knows, maybe it sets some generic widget bg colors explicitely11:09
ochosiit's really really hard to follow all of their changes11:09
knomeochosi, what do you think about shipping a mousepad (gtksourceview) color scheme?11:09
ochosiknome: i'm +1 on it (as long as you don't expect me to do it ;))11:10
bluesabreeasy to package11:10
ochosibluesabre: woot, gtk3 plugs in gtk2 socket (see last comment): https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/2511:10
knomeochosi, well i almost have one ready... and have built it so that it allows a light variant as well11:11
ochosiknome: great, i say go for it!11:11
bluesabrei have a solarized-dark package for gtk2 sourceview that I use with mousepad11:11
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages11:11
knomei guess ultimately this would mean that i'd poke the terminal color scheme as well11:11
* ochosi prefers solarized light11:11
knomei've used oblivion, but it has its problems11:12
knomedo either of you know mousepad enough to say if we can force a different default theme on our installs systemwide?11:12
bluesabrewe can11:13
knomegood11:13
bluesabreochosi: albatross makes it blue, so that might lead to a solution of sorts... http://i.imgur.com/asDrj9G.png11:13
ochosibluesabre: hm, what colors do tooltips have in adwaita?11:14
knomeanother question for both of you...11:14
ochosibluesabre: cause that looks like it uses the tooltip bg color, but the normal fg color11:14
knomehave you seen a color scheme that actually changes the highlight color for search matches and the highlighted matches when selecting "highlight all" ?11:14
knomei wasn't able to get that working with 0.3.0 last night11:14
ochosimaybe it's a missing feature (i could very well imagine that)11:14
ochosibest to ping matthew (codebrainz) about that directly when he's around11:15
bluesabrein sourceview?11:15
knomebluesabre, yah11:15
bluesabrenot to my knowledge11:16
knomeat least the other highlighted stuff is always yellow bg for me11:16
knomecan't remember if the current one was just the selection color11:16
knomeyeah... :/11:16
knomeboo11:16
knomethere's the search-match tag, but that doesn't do anything11:16
knomeat least to my knowledge11:17
bluesabreochosi: not sure how long the gtk3 embedding will work... I think we're getting closer to all gtk3 windows being csd11:18
bluesabrebut for now, woot11:18
ochosibluesabre: i was thinking of menulibre and mugshot mainly11:18
ochosialso, for blueman i submitted an upstream ticket: https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/17811:19
bluesabrethose screenshots were not CC11:20
bluesabre:P11:20
ochosihehe, feel free to complain about the missing license ;)11:20
knomebluesabre, ochosi: for checking out... https://gist.github.com/knomepasi/1c22f13d3f7c135f386611:26
bluesabrecolorful11:28
knomewell i've only tested it on the laptop11:28
knomeand it nearly has the same colors as our terminal color scheme11:28
knomeheh, i just noticed a problem with that11:29
knomebut i'll keep improving11:29
bluesabrecool11:29
bluesabreolivier added libinput support http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/commit/?id=49be65f8355aa54e28ac97fa569fc2b436d8b4b911:32
ochosiwoot already?11:38
ochosiholy crap11:38
ochosithat was quick11:38
bluesabre:D11:39
ochosimeh, that doesn11:40
ochosit build11:40
ochosierror: variable ‘reverse_scrolling’ set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]11:40
knomenot so quick then eh :P11:41
bluesabrelol11:42
ochosiwell, that11:42
bluesabrehad a similar issue with his last push11:42
ochosi's just a tiny issue with compile flags11:42
ochosibluesabre: already got a reply on that blueman issue11:43
bluesabrewoot already?11:43
bluesabreholy crap11:43
bluesabrethat was quick11:43
bluesabre:P11:43
ochosiyeah, just a comment though11:43
ochosino action :)11:43
knomebluesabre, check the updated gist11:44
knomelunchtime11:44
bluesabrelol, add the ifdef libinput, then11:46
bluesabremain.c:1220:17: error: ‘reverse_scrolling’ undeclared (first use in this function)11:46
bluesabrestupid compiler11:46
ochosiyeah11:47
ochosivery stupid11:47
ochosii'm poking the same thing11:47
ochosicause i wanna test a change i made to the icon theme list11:47
bluesabreif you fix it, go ahead and push11:47
ochosiwell, big if11:47
bluesabreI want to do a coverity scan build on the current settings once I can get it to build11:47
ochosimm, that'd make sense11:49
ochosibluesabre: thoughts on this? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02052015-125243pm.php11:52
bluesabrenot opposed to it11:54
ochosimaybe add row hints: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02052015-125404pm.php11:54
bluesabrebetter11:54
ochosiwas just thinking it'd be nice not having to hover the tooltip11:54
ochosicause it suuuuucks.11:54
ochosia11y-wise11:54
ochosiand theme-names often aren't descriptive enough11:54
bluesabreanother possible idea would be to maybe have a few preview icons11:54
ochosiyeah, i know11:54
ochosibut that's far more work11:54
bluesabrelike 3 of the most common11:54
ochosiand i'd want that in addition to this11:54
bluesabreright11:55
ochosiyeah, something like: folder, file, arrow11:55
bluesabremhm11:55
ochosibut that's really a lot more work11:55
ochosithere's no code for loading icons from different themes yet11:56
ochosiif you wanna go there, be my guest :)11:56
ochosibut i think even this is an improvement11:57
bluesabreagreed11:57
bluesabreI might play with it a bit11:58
bluesabrewhat you're interested in is GtkIconTheme11:58
bluesabrehttps://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkIconTheme.html#gtk-icon-theme-set-custom-theme11:58
bluesabreyou can then use that to load icons from any theme11:58
ochosioh right11:58
ochosithat makes it a lot easier11:58
bluesabre:)11:58
ochosiwell play with it if you want11:59
bluesabreyeah, might do that a bit in the next few days11:59
ochosii'll likely push my patch to a branch11:59
ochosicool12:00
ochosii'll pastebin you a link to my branch as soon as i've cleaned it up and pushed it12:00
bluesabresweet12:01
bluesabreelfy, ftr, I am able to request rebuilds still, but as usual, will be out all day12:47
brainwashbluesabre: I don't maintain a trusty installation and it looks like almost no one here does13:20
knomei do13:23
brainwashyou could verify that xubuntu-default-settings in trusty proposed fixes the keybind problem13:25
brainwashideally we would want the fix in before final release of 14.04.213:25
knomeif we release .213:25
brainwashoh, are the dependency issues still not resolved?13:26
brainwashibus, extra indicators and so on13:26
knomei don't follow it closely, but i read about that on the mailing list from elfy13:26
brainwashit really looks like we have to fight the ibus "malware" over and over again13:28
brainwashit always finds a way back on the iso13:28
knomebut re: verification, link me to the bug and i'll most likely get into it eventually13:29
brainwashit's bug 129229013:31
ubottubug 1292290 in xfce4-settings "[SRU] Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129229013:31
brainwashI guess you know that you will have to add "verification-done-trusty" and leave "verification-needed" (if the new package fixes the problem)13:32
knomeverification-done / verification-failed iirc13:34
knomeand i think you can drop -needed if you did it13:35
brainwashbut the SRU is targeting trusty and utopic too13:35
brainwashwe need verifications for both13:35
knomemeh, i don't really know why we're targeting utopic, it's dead soon13:35
knomebut -trusty then i guess13:35
* knome shrugs13:35
knomei'll look into that when i get to the verification part :P13:36
brainwashhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification13:36
brainwashthe utopic one is not important13:36
brainwashbut it helps to prevent that the bug (corrupted xml file on first login) is carried over from utopic to vivid13:37
brainwashif someone creates a new account in utopic and then upgrades to vivid, for example13:38
elfybluesabre: thanks - nice to be sure who can do what where for when it's needed :)13:45
knomeelfy, always up-to-date answer: everybody in ~xubuntu-release13:47
knomethat's the feature we mainly set that team up for :)13:48
elfyyes I know that13:49
elfybut - things go wrong with trackers ... or had you never noticed :p13:49
knomenoooo13:49
knome:P13:49
knomewhat are you talking about?13:49
elfyha ha 13:49
knomeok, sister+ coming over13:53
knomesee you later13:53
elfycya 13:53
brainwashbluesabre, Noskcaj: should bug 1388009 be fixed in trusty?14:22
ubottubug 1388009 in xfce4-screenshooter (Ubuntu) "The program is not translated" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138800914:22
brainwashit's a packaging issue and should be resolved via SRU I think14:24
ochosihuhu, we're not alone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/141829516:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1418295 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Black screen after resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:01
elfy:)16:09
elfycan one of us who can change bug importance do something with bug 1418377 so it flys high on the trusty 16:40
ubottubug 1418377 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141837716:41
elfytracker defects list16:41
elfyconfirming and critical sound good 16:41
slickymasterWorkso elfy, do you want ir Critical or High?16:44
slickymasterWorks/ir/it16:44
slickymasterWorknever mind, I saw you already said what you wanted16:45
slickymasterWorkelfy, done -> bug 141837716:46
ubottubug 1418377 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141837716:46
elfythanks :)16:47
slickymasterWorknp16:47
elfywait for the summary page to catch up with it 16:47
* slickymasterWork hopes elfy is sitting, while he waits16:50
elfyoh yes :)16:50
slickymasterWork:)16:51
brainwashochosi: but that's a different black screen bug17:18
ochosii know that17:19
brainwashand this reminds me that cavalier may have figured out a way to fix our blank screen bug properly17:21
brainwashwell, no, he would have pinged us :)17:22
ochosibluesabre: since we talked about this earlier today, here's my patch: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=913017:47
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 9130 in Appearance Settings "Icon-themes list could show more details" [Normal,New]17:47
elfyochosi: check ubuntu-meeting from ~17:09/17:10 UTC 17:49
elfysurprised other people that we ended up with qt5 and unity-greeter :p17:53
elfypleia2: re your Jam at the weekend - is there anything you'd like from me for it? 18:08
elfyjust realised that it's at 21:00 for me - so can be around for a while - but not for hours :)18:08
pleia2elfy: just being around early on is fine :)18:09
pleia2I'll have attendees join here and ask questions18:09
elfyok :)18:09
pleia2if all else fails, I'm funneling them to xubuntu-desktop package to submit bugs18:09
elfytesting vivid? 18:10
pleia2yep18:10
elfyok - thanks :)18:10
pleia2I printed out testcases last night so they can follow along on paper for manual full disk install and live installs18:10
pleia2er, live cds18:10
elfyright18:10
elfyI hope the testcases are good :D18:11
pleia2I'll refresh all my isos on Saturday and get the sticks prepped, no one make any changes between sat and sunday images :P18:11
elfyI did a how to zsync/rsync wiki page if that's any use18:11
pleia2ooh, link?18:11
pleia2I'll also be showing the general QA wiki pages, so improvements on those have been appreciated18:11
elfyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup/SyncImage18:12
pleia2thanks18:13
elfyhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-usb is cleaned up 18:13
pleia2nice18:13
elfyand if anyone pitches up with xubuntu 14.10 - then upgrade tests from image would be awesome too :)18:14
pleia2com32 error D;<18:14
pleia2hates18:14
elfy:)18:14
pleia2wait, which is that for, unetbootin or usb-creator-gtk?18:15
elfyyou should just need to tab then either live or unetbootindefault :)18:15
pleia2the etherpad is confused18:15
elfyboth I am afraid18:15
pleia2gah18:15
pleia2I hate usb sticks18:15
elfyrunning trusty - com32 when using the buntu tool18:16
pleia2alright, I'm on utopic so I'll use usb-creator-gtk18:16
elfyrunning utopic - unetbootin fails 18:16
elfyyep - should work :)18:16
pleia2oh gosh, I'm supposed to be at the jam venue in 15 minutes to do a walk through18:16
* pleia2 pants18:16
pleia2can't go in pajamas :)18:16
elfyI've found that the disks tool just works 18:16
elfyha ha 18:17
elfyhi jono_ 19:01
jono_hey elfy20:10
* knome 's office is pajama friendly21:34
dkesselFYI: i just created a xubuntu-docs daily ppa @ https://code.launchpad.net/~dkessel/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-docs-daily . not sure if it is interesting for anyone but me though ;) slickymaster, maybe ...22:01
dkesselgot to go. good night22:01
ochosithat might actually be a candidate for the staging PPA22:02
ochosior we could move it to a "more official" place at least, in case more ppl are interested22:03
Unit193Heh, I have https://unit193.net/xubuntu/xubuntu-docs/ too, daily build. :D22:17
ochosibluesabre: will you do a new release of catfish with the about-icon changed for vivid or shall i put that icon i dropped back in the theme? (used to be gtk-about-symbolic)22:24
pleia2"A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" hah22:38
knomepleia2, btw, the new US mirror is up, no email sent, was too hard to find an admin email or contact information22:39
pleia2knome: k22:39
knomeshould set up the other new mirrors too22:42
pleia2yes, please :)22:43
knomewhat about the qa incentive shouting out?22:44
pleia2did that on tuesday or something22:44
knomeoh ok22:44
knome:P22:44
bluesabrehey all22:53
bluesabreochosi: planning to fix that, but thanks for the ping22:53
knomepleia2, done23:02
* pleia2 inspects23:02
knomeyeah, plz double-check23:02
pleia2just US, or did you add the other ones too? i forgot what we were adding23:03
knomei did everything23:03
pleia2cool23:03
knomeso there are few other changes too23:03
knomei changed US three days ago when somebody pointed out the mirror wasn't working any more23:03
pleia2yeah23:04
knomehow do we want to link to the full mirrors list?23:04
knomeat the end of both lists?23:04
pleia2wfm23:04
knomeworking on that next23:05
knomemaybe double-check that this is sane too http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/mirrors/23:05
pleia2very nice23:07
knomegood, then i'll link eet23:07
pleia2:)23:07
pleia2first link to ZA no worky23:07
knomehmpf23:08
pleia2stray %20 in there23:08
knomeugh23:08
pleia2skimmed the rest, they look ok23:09
knomedone23:10
knomeupdated blueprint23:13
pleia2gold star!23:18
knomehaha23:18

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