[01:07] ochosi, we'll want to covert the terminal color scheme into a preset and ship it [07:47] ochosi: caught up with all the trusty tests - which have all now got at least 1 result [07:48] reported bug 1418377 [07:48] bug 1418377 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418377 [07:49] and have critically failed all of my tests - so if anyone from -release is looking at what can be released later I'd hope that 10 fails out of 10 will jog a memory or two :) [08:03] knome: sounds good, are you taking that on? [08:05] bluesabre: since my ubiquity-panel branch has been merged, could you please look at the packaging for that file? seems that while it's in the source tarball it's not getting installed yet: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/ubiquity-panel-bg.png [08:06] bluesabre: btw, the same goes for the emerald theme and everything else in greybird's top dir (speaking of vivid / shimmer daily ppa) [08:10] elfy: thanks for that [08:10] i guess we can't be very optimistic about this getting fixed [08:10] I'm not [08:10] (in time, that is) [08:10] yea [08:11] though if they do manage in the next few hours to get something we can rebuild [08:11] it won't take long to do a few smoketests to ensure it's all gone [08:12] I suspect this time tomorrow morning we'll not have released it though [08:16] yup [08:16] just as a note, i have a meeting at work for the next few hours, so i won't be around to ping/handle people [08:16] will be back in about 3 though [08:16] ok [08:17] I'll be gone in an hour till I get back too [08:21] elfy: why xubu default settings? aren't the extra packages pulled in by xubuntu-meta or some ubuntu core package? [08:21] ochosi: pretty sure knome can request rebuilds still, need to check that bluesabre can as well [08:22] brainwash: just ignore that bug thanks [08:22] it's just something that I did quickly so I could critically fail all the .2 tests [08:22] and if there was an oojumyflip package I would have used that [08:23] ok, ToZ did the same (report against default settings) [08:23] which triggered that our SRU one failed [08:23] however if YOU would like to run through the test and report against each and everything that's pulled in be my guest :) [08:25] ok [08:25] tag has been already removed from bug 1292290 [08:25] bug 1292290 in xfce4-settings "[SRU] Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292290 [08:25] no failed anymore [08:26] but still, so many people are subscribed to the report ^ and no one has tested + verified it so far :/ [08:27] happens [08:28] brainwash: if I remember I'll check that tomorrow and verify [08:28] you could even use the 14.04.2 iso which has/had -proposed enabled by default :) [08:29] thanks [08:30] brainwash: when I do it - I'll do it on hardware not vm [08:32] that's a lot of words ... [08:32] what's actually wrong? [08:34] comment #31 is the important one. you reassign one of these actions to another keybind and relog [08:34] after login the new keybind should still work [08:36] brainwash: ok - thanks [08:37] I am though a bit dubious about verification only being done by one or two people [08:37] if it's that important then there should be more [08:37] and did you verify it? [08:37] it's a backport from vivid [08:37] well, I fixed the xml and in vivid and tested it ofc [08:37] -and [08:37] but not in trusty? [08:38] no, otherwise I would have verification-done it already [08:38] bit ironic complaining about people not testing it then :) [08:39] I did my part [08:39] it's not a SRU with 1 or 2 subscribers [08:39] yea I understand *that* [08:40] (Though, I tend to think approving it from top down isn't great either.) [08:40] does beg the question that if 36 people are affected then it should be verified by more than 1 or 2 [08:41] it's a bit annoying for people that the report is spammed with comments and it's not that easy to focus on the essential stuff [08:41] yea but that's LP for any bug with more than a heat of 6 ... [08:41] maybe some up/down vote system could help [08:42] mmh, I'll have to request that [08:42] I doubt it [08:42] don't expect me to mark it as affecting me :p [08:42] I could visually highlight helpful comments [09:20] ochosi: so, looks like delayed for a week (currently) [09:39] elfy: ok, that is actually good news [09:40] yea [09:41] at least it wasn't just us - I think gnome have issues and I know lubuntu do :) [10:52] brainwash: if you can reproduce the bug and the fix, there is nothing wrong with reporting your result, even if it is your bug... especially if that helps things get out of -proposed... [10:53] hey bluesabre [10:53] when you do report on your own bug, I think there is a benefit in laying out all the steps you do so that you are not suspicious and others can verify even your result [10:53] hey ochosi [10:53] so the ll patch was accepted for xfpm [10:53] just needs some small warnings fixed [10:54] since Greybird has multiple themes in a single folder, we have to be explicit about what installs where, so the ubiquity panel is not currently installed [10:54] so I can fix that today [10:54] ah ok [10:54] sure, no rush [10:54] just need to know where things need to go [10:54] ok, so the ubiquity png has to "stay" where it is [10:54] i.e. greybird's toplevel folder /usr/share/themes/Greybird [10:54] ok [10:55] oh also, i might do another theme point release soonish [10:55] since i fixed the gtk3 spinner [10:56] ok [10:56] ping me when I need to package it [10:56] will do [10:56] you can test it meanwhile, if you want [10:56] it's already in shimmer-daily [10:56] also, do you have bluetooth on your computer and a bluetooth device? [10:56] yeah i do [10:56] the error statusbar used in blueman is black [10:57] making it impossible to read the actual error [10:57] hm, not sure i know what you mean exactly [10:57] wanna show me a screener of that? [10:57] I'll try to reproduce now [10:57] k [10:57] can't always get a bluetooth error :) [10:57] :) [10:58] got it [10:58] oh, "good" :] [10:58] actually [10:58] its black in numix too [10:58] so its probably a blueman issue [10:58] what, black on black? [10:59] well, to know whether it's a theme issue, check ambiance or adwaita [10:59] since satya started the sass port, the theme in git master hasn't received a ton of attention (also, he seems busy with work) [10:59] looks fine in adwaita [11:00] its black on every theme except adwaita, and blue on albatross [11:01] hmm, ok, well since it's gtk3, fire up the inspector? [11:01] or if i can reproduce it, i can debug it [11:01] https://imgur.com/iRC0C9u [11:01] ochosi, will look at it [11:02] bluesabre: mind to check with inspector what sort of widget that is? (they should really use infobars...) [11:03] http://i.imgur.com/eREUhPR.png [11:04] things that have used gtk for a long time do not use gtk3 correctly [11:04] yeah [11:04] true that [11:04] "what? you mean there are new widgets since 2008?" [11:04] could you also check what classes the blueman+gui widget has? [11:05] the hbox doesn't have any bg [11:05] so obviously that's not it [11:05] but yeah, always fun to see an HBox in a Gtk3 app :) [11:06] no classes [11:06] :/ [11:06] like, nowhere? [11:06] with no classes at all, i'd expect a normal bg_color [11:06] blueman+gui+MessageArea has no defined classes [11:07] hm [11:07] guess i have to try to reproduce that then [11:08] what does adwaita do to not make the default background black? [11:09] who knows, maybe it sets some generic widget bg colors explicitely [11:09] it's really really hard to follow all of their changes [11:09] ochosi, what do you think about shipping a mousepad (gtksourceview) color scheme? [11:10] knome: i'm +1 on it (as long as you don't expect me to do it ;)) [11:10] easy to package [11:10] bluesabre: woot, gtk3 plugs in gtk2 socket (see last comment): https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/25 [11:11] ochosi, well i almost have one ready... and have built it so that it allows a light variant as well [11:11] knome: great, i say go for it! [11:11] i have a solarized-dark package for gtk2 sourceview that I use with mousepad [11:11] https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages [11:11] i guess ultimately this would mean that i'd poke the terminal color scheme as well [11:11] * ochosi prefers solarized light [11:12] i've used oblivion, but it has its problems [11:12] do either of you know mousepad enough to say if we can force a different default theme on our installs systemwide? [11:13] we can [11:13] good [11:13] ochosi: albatross makes it blue, so that might lead to a solution of sorts... http://i.imgur.com/asDrj9G.png [11:14] bluesabre: hm, what colors do tooltips have in adwaita? [11:14] another question for both of you... [11:14] bluesabre: cause that looks like it uses the tooltip bg color, but the normal fg color [11:14] have you seen a color scheme that actually changes the highlight color for search matches and the highlighted matches when selecting "highlight all" ? [11:14] i wasn't able to get that working with 0.3.0 last night [11:14] maybe it's a missing feature (i could very well imagine that) [11:15] best to ping matthew (codebrainz) about that directly when he's around [11:15] in sourceview? [11:15] bluesabre, yah [11:16] not to my knowledge [11:16] at least the other highlighted stuff is always yellow bg for me [11:16] can't remember if the current one was just the selection color [11:16] yeah... :/ [11:16] boo [11:16] there's the search-match tag, but that doesn't do anything [11:17] at least to my knowledge [11:18] ochosi: not sure how long the gtk3 embedding will work... I think we're getting closer to all gtk3 windows being csd [11:18] but for now, woot [11:18] bluesabre: i was thinking of menulibre and mugshot mainly [11:19] also, for blueman i submitted an upstream ticket: https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/178 [11:20] those screenshots were not CC [11:20] :P [11:20] hehe, feel free to complain about the missing license ;) [11:26] bluesabre, ochosi: for checking out... https://gist.github.com/knomepasi/1c22f13d3f7c135f3866 [11:28] colorful [11:28] well i've only tested it on the laptop [11:28] and it nearly has the same colors as our terminal color scheme [11:29] heh, i just noticed a problem with that [11:29] but i'll keep improving [11:29] cool [11:32] olivier added libinput support http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/commit/?id=49be65f8355aa54e28ac97fa569fc2b436d8b4b9 [11:38] woot already? [11:38] holy crap [11:38] that was quick [11:39] :D [11:40] meh, that doesn [11:40] t build [11:40] error: variable ‘reverse_scrolling’ set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable] [11:41] not so quick then eh :P [11:42] lol [11:42] well, that [11:42] had a similar issue with his last push [11:42] 's just a tiny issue with compile flags [11:43] bluesabre: already got a reply on that blueman issue [11:43] woot already? [11:43] holy crap [11:43] that was quick [11:43] :P [11:43] yeah, just a comment though [11:43] no action :) [11:44] bluesabre, check the updated gist [11:44] lunchtime [11:46] lol, add the ifdef libinput, then [11:46] main.c:1220:17: error: ‘reverse_scrolling’ undeclared (first use in this function) [11:46] stupid compiler [11:47] yeah [11:47] very stupid [11:47] i'm poking the same thing [11:47] cause i wanna test a change i made to the icon theme list [11:47] if you fix it, go ahead and push [11:47] well, big if [11:47] I want to do a coverity scan build on the current settings once I can get it to build [11:49] mm, that'd make sense [11:52] bluesabre: thoughts on this? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02052015-125243pm.php [11:54] not opposed to it [11:54] maybe add row hints: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02052015-125404pm.php [11:54] better [11:54] was just thinking it'd be nice not having to hover the tooltip [11:54] cause it suuuuucks. [11:54] a11y-wise [11:54] and theme-names often aren't descriptive enough [11:54] another possible idea would be to maybe have a few preview icons [11:54] yeah, i know [11:54] but that's far more work [11:54] like 3 of the most common [11:54] and i'd want that in addition to this [11:55] right [11:55] yeah, something like: folder, file, arrow [11:55] mhm [11:55] but that's really a lot more work [11:56] there's no code for loading icons from different themes yet [11:56] if you wanna go there, be my guest :) [11:57] but i think even this is an improvement [11:57] agreed [11:58] I might play with it a bit [11:58] what you're interested in is GtkIconTheme [11:58] https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkIconTheme.html#gtk-icon-theme-set-custom-theme [11:58] you can then use that to load icons from any theme [11:58] oh right [11:58] that makes it a lot easier [11:58] :) [11:59] well play with it if you want [11:59] yeah, might do that a bit in the next few days [11:59] i'll likely push my patch to a branch [12:00] cool [12:00] i'll pastebin you a link to my branch as soon as i've cleaned it up and pushed it [12:01] sweet [12:47] elfy, ftr, I am able to request rebuilds still, but as usual, will be out all day [13:20] bluesabre: I don't maintain a trusty installation and it looks like almost no one here does [13:23] i do [13:25] you could verify that xubuntu-default-settings in trusty proposed fixes the keybind problem [13:25] ideally we would want the fix in before final release of 14.04.2 [13:25] if we release .2 [13:26] oh, are the dependency issues still not resolved? [13:26] ibus, extra indicators and so on [13:26] i don't follow it closely, but i read about that on the mailing list from elfy [13:28] it really looks like we have to fight the ibus "malware" over and over again [13:28] it always finds a way back on the iso [13:29] but re: verification, link me to the bug and i'll most likely get into it eventually [13:31] it's bug 1292290 [13:31] bug 1292290 in xfce4-settings "[SRU] Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292290 [13:32] I guess you know that you will have to add "verification-done-trusty" and leave "verification-needed" (if the new package fixes the problem) [13:34] verification-done / verification-failed iirc [13:35] and i think you can drop -needed if you did it [13:35] but the SRU is targeting trusty and utopic too [13:35] we need verifications for both [13:35] meh, i don't really know why we're targeting utopic, it's dead soon [13:35] but -trusty then i guess [13:35] * knome shrugs [13:36] i'll look into that when i get to the verification part :P [13:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification [13:36] the utopic one is not important [13:37] but it helps to prevent that the bug (corrupted xml file on first login) is carried over from utopic to vivid [13:38] if someone creates a new account in utopic and then upgrades to vivid, for example [13:45] bluesabre: thanks - nice to be sure who can do what where for when it's needed :) [13:47] elfy, always up-to-date answer: everybody in ~xubuntu-release [13:48] that's the feature we mainly set that team up for :) [13:49] yes I know that [13:49] but - things go wrong with trackers ... or had you never noticed :p [13:49] noooo [13:49] :P [13:49] what are you talking about? [13:49] ha ha [13:53] ok, sister+ coming over [13:53] see you later [13:53] cya [14:22] bluesabre, Noskcaj: should bug 1388009 be fixed in trusty? [14:22] bug 1388009 in xfce4-screenshooter (Ubuntu) "The program is not translated" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1388009 [14:24] it's a packaging issue and should be resolved via SRU I think [16:01] huhu, we're not alone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1418295 [16:01] Launchpad bug 1418295 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Black screen after resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:09] :) [16:40] can one of us who can change bug importance do something with bug 1418377 so it flys high on the trusty [16:41] bug 1418377 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418377 [16:41] tracker defects list [16:41] confirming and critical sound good [16:44] so elfy, do you want ir Critical or High? [16:44] s/ir/it [16:45] never mind, I saw you already said what you wanted [16:46] elfy, done -> bug 1418377 [16:46] bug 1418377 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418377 [16:47] thanks :) [16:47] np [16:47] wait for the summary page to catch up with it [16:50] * slickymasterWork hopes elfy is sitting, while he waits [16:50] oh yes :) [16:51] :) [17:18] ochosi: but that's a different black screen bug [17:19] i know that [17:21] and this reminds me that cavalier may have figured out a way to fix our blank screen bug properly [17:22] well, no, he would have pinged us :) [17:47] bluesabre: since we talked about this earlier today, here's my patch: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9130 [17:47] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9130 in Appearance Settings "Icon-themes list could show more details" [Normal,New] [17:49] ochosi: check ubuntu-meeting from ~17:09/17:10 UTC [17:53] surprised other people that we ended up with qt5 and unity-greeter :p [18:08] pleia2: re your Jam at the weekend - is there anything you'd like from me for it? [18:08] just realised that it's at 21:00 for me - so can be around for a while - but not for hours :) [18:09] elfy: just being around early on is fine :) [18:09] I'll have attendees join here and ask questions [18:09] ok :) [18:09] if all else fails, I'm funneling them to xubuntu-desktop package to submit bugs [18:10] testing vivid? [18:10] yep [18:10] ok - thanks :) [18:10] I printed out testcases last night so they can follow along on paper for manual full disk install and live installs [18:10] er, live cds [18:10] right [18:11] I hope the testcases are good :D [18:11] I'll refresh all my isos on Saturday and get the sticks prepped, no one make any changes between sat and sunday images :P [18:11] I did a how to zsync/rsync wiki page if that's any use [18:11] ooh, link? [18:11] I'll also be showing the general QA wiki pages, so improvements on those have been appreciated [18:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup/SyncImage [18:13] thanks [18:13] http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-usb is cleaned up [18:13] nice [18:14] and if anyone pitches up with xubuntu 14.10 - then upgrade tests from image would be awesome too :) [18:14] com32 error D;< [18:14] hates [18:14] :) [18:15] wait, which is that for, unetbootin or usb-creator-gtk? [18:15] you should just need to tab then either live or unetbootindefault :) [18:15] the etherpad is confused [18:15] both I am afraid [18:15] gah [18:15] I hate usb sticks [18:16] running trusty - com32 when using the buntu tool [18:16] alright, I'm on utopic so I'll use usb-creator-gtk [18:16] running utopic - unetbootin fails [18:16] yep - should work :) [18:16] oh gosh, I'm supposed to be at the jam venue in 15 minutes to do a walk through [18:16] * pleia2 pants [18:16] can't go in pajamas :) [18:16] I've found that the disks tool just works [18:17] ha ha [19:01] hi jono_ [20:10] hey elfy [21:34] * knome 's office is pajama friendly [22:01] FYI: i just created a xubuntu-docs daily ppa @ https://code.launchpad.net/~dkessel/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-docs-daily . not sure if it is interesting for anyone but me though ;) slickymaster, maybe ... [22:01] got to go. good night [22:02] that might actually be a candidate for the staging PPA [22:03] or we could move it to a "more official" place at least, in case more ppl are interested [22:17] Heh, I have https://unit193.net/xubuntu/xubuntu-docs/ too, daily build. :D [22:24] bluesabre: will you do a new release of catfish with the about-icon changed for vivid or shall i put that icon i dropped back in the theme? (used to be gtk-about-symbolic) [22:38] "A whole bunch of unwanted stuff installed" hah [22:39] pleia2, btw, the new US mirror is up, no email sent, was too hard to find an admin email or contact information [22:39] knome: k [22:42] should set up the other new mirrors too [22:43] yes, please :) [22:44] what about the qa incentive shouting out? [22:44] did that on tuesday or something [22:44] oh ok [22:44] :P [22:53] hey all [22:53] ochosi: planning to fix that, but thanks for the ping [23:02] pleia2, done [23:02] * pleia2 inspects [23:02] yeah, plz double-check [23:03] just US, or did you add the other ones too? i forgot what we were adding [23:03] i did everything [23:03] cool [23:03] so there are few other changes too [23:03] i changed US three days ago when somebody pointed out the mirror wasn't working any more [23:04] yeah [23:04] how do we want to link to the full mirrors list? [23:04] at the end of both lists? [23:04] wfm [23:05] working on that next [23:05] maybe double-check that this is sane too http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/mirrors/ [23:07] very nice [23:07] good, then i'll link eet [23:07] :) [23:07] first link to ZA no worky [23:08] hmpf [23:08] stray %20 in there [23:08] ugh [23:09] skimmed the rest, they look ok [23:10] done [23:13] updated blueprint [23:18] gold star! [23:18] haha