[00:30] <madjo> Bonsoir à tous !
[00:31] <madjo> j'ai un gros soucis, qui devrait pouvoir être résolu facilement je penses
[00:31] <Unit193> !fr
[00:32] <madjo> sorry
[00:32] <fantasai_> Hi! I just installed xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso, and it seems to have booted me into Ubuntu. How do I boot into XFCE? Or use .xsession?
[00:32] <bekks> fantasai_: Did you install Ubuntu before?
[00:32] <fantasai_> yes
[00:32] <fantasai_> this should have been a clean install on a blank partition
[00:33]  * fantasai_ formatted the partition
[00:33] <bekks> Then you dont need to install Xubuntu, all you'd need is installing the package xubuntu-desktop
[00:33] <Unit193> Installing the task is better than package, so apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^
[00:33] <fantasai_> bekks: will that change the login manager so I can get to non-Ubuntu desktops?
[00:34]  * fantasai_ doesn't actually use XFCE, but uses most of its utilities
[00:34] <Unit193> fantasai_: Both use lightdm, one uses lightdm-gtk-greeter but both work.  The important part is selecting the Xubuntu session.
[00:34] <bekks> fantasai_: It will not change the login manager but provide you the ability to choose which desktop environment you want to use.
[00:34] <fantasai_> okay, that's fine, as long as I can choose XFCE or .xsession :)
[00:35]  * fantasai_ punches in the install instruction
[00:35] <fantasai_> Seems a bit confusing that the Xubuntu download comes without Xubuntu, no?
[00:35] <fantasai_> There wasn't even a warning "Type this thing after you're done installing!!!!"
[00:35] <bekks> Which warning?
[00:36] <fantasai_> well, if I was downloading "xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso", I'd expect it to install Xubuntu, right?
[00:36] <bekks> You booted into you Ubuntu ;)
[00:36] <fantasai_> no, none of the packages were installed... it's got 300+MB to download
[00:37] <fantasai_> so it had no choice but to boot into Ubuntu! That was the only option installed.
[00:37] <bekks> Which proves that you booted into your Ubuntu, not into your Xubuntu.
[00:37] <Unit193> xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso has Xubuntu, Xfce, and not Unity nor GNOME...
[00:37] <bekks> And the grub menu is hidden by default.
[00:37] <Unit193> Right.
[00:37] <fantasai_> Then I have no idea what happened.
[00:37] <bekks> fantasai_: You booted into øur Ubuntu. :)
[00:37] <xubuntu09w> I just bought a Dell Poweredge 1950 running Xubuntu and I can only access the guest account.  Is there any way that I can reset the server to wipe out the user passwords
[00:37] <fantasai_> bekks: but where did I get Ubuntu?
[00:37] <fantasai_> bekks: I installed off of xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:38] <Unit193> xubuntu09w: I'd recommend a reinstall, but...
[00:38] <bekks> fantasai_: You said you installed Ubuntu before.
[00:38] <Unit193> !pwreset
[00:38] <xubuntu09w> I dont have the reinstall discs
[00:38] <fantasai_> bekks: Yes. Before. And then I told the installer to format the partition and install Xubuntu.
[00:38] <bekks> xubuntu09w: you need a live cd.
[00:39] <xubuntu09w> I dont even know exactly what version I am running
[00:39] <fantasai_> bekks: or whatever was on the LiveCD. It was an Ubuntu liveCD, afaict while running it
[00:39] <fantasai_> bekks: but I downloaded it off Xubuntu's website...
[00:39] <bekks> fantasai_: If it was an Ubuntu livecd, it will not install Xubuntu.
[00:39] <fantasai_> bekks: Okay, then where am I supposed to get the Xubuntu liveCD?
[00:40] <madjo> hey guys, i will try to explain my problem in my best english, i had selected the 'save session when logout' with the command : xfce4-settings-manager i did that because i was trying to launch compiz automaticly on startup witout doing compiz --replace, but now, i have NOTHING ! just my wallpaper, no right click menu, no icons, no desk bar nothing... i came here with irssi in the console, i need the terminal command to dis
[00:40] <bekks> fantasai_: All you need to do is installing the xubuntu-desktop package which you already did.
[00:40] <fantasai_> Yeah, yeah. My problem is fixed. What about other people who try to download the Xubuntu LTS?
[00:40] <bekks> fantasai_: Xubuntu isnt LTS, technically.
[00:41] <fantasai_> Not all of them know that it's really an Ubuntu LTS image
[00:41] <bekks> fantasai_: Only the core packages are.
[00:41] <fantasai_> and that you have to find a terminal to apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on startup
[00:41] <bekks> fantasai_: And The Ubuntu ISO isnt the Xubuntu ISO.
[00:41] <fantasai_> I downloaded xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:41] <fantasai_> If that's not the Xubuntu ISO, what is?
[00:41] <bekks> fantasai_: It isnt an ISO error, you just installed Ubuntu, NOT Xubuntu.
[00:42] <Unit193> fantasai_: What link did you use?
[00:42] <bekks> You downloaded the xubuntu iso, but you used the Ubuntu Livecd for installing.
[00:42] <Unit193> bekks: And, Xubuntu has 3 year LTS, but still LTS.
[00:42] <brainwash> madjo: use "rm -r ~/.cache/sessions" to clear the current session cache
[00:42] <bekks> Unit193: Oh, does it? TIL.
[00:43]  * fantasai_ tries to dig that up
[00:43] <Unit193> `ubuntu-support-status` can be a helpful command.
[00:45] <madjo2> sorry, i accidently quit the terminal can you repeat the command to clear the session cache please ?
[00:45] <fantasai_> The file was called xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso, but I can't find the original URL in Transmission ...
[00:45]  * fantasai_ tries to dig it out of browser history
[00:46] <Unit193> !magnets
[00:46] <bekks> fantasai_: Which doesnt help you in choosing the right medium when booting ;)
[00:46] <fantasai_> ?
[00:47] <bekks> fantasai_: You downloaded the xubuntu iso, but you used the Ubuntu Livecd for installing.
[00:47] <fantasai_> How's that possible?
[00:47] <bekks> By inserting the wrong cd into the drive, for booting.
[00:47] <fantasai_> I don't have an Ubuntu CD
[00:47] <fantasai_> I have a USB stick I just bought
[00:47] <fantasai_> that was completely empty
[00:47] <fantasai_> that I installed the image onto
[00:47] <fantasai_> the last time I installed Ubuntu was several years ago
[00:47] <fantasai_> and I lost that USB
[00:47] <madjo2> can you repeat the command to clear the session cache please ?
[00:47] <bekks> How did you install the image onto it?
[00:48] <fantasai_> usb-creator-gtk
[00:48] <bekks> 0205 014239 < brainwash> madjo: use "rm -r ~/.cache/sessions" to clear the current session cache
[00:48] <madjo2> thanks you vm
[00:48] <Unit193> fantasai_: ...Did it take long enough for that to download an ISO?
[00:48] <fantasai_> yeah
[00:49] <bekks> fantasai_: Then you created an Ubuntu USB bootable. :)
[00:49] <Unit193> \o/
[00:49] <fantasai_> from a file called xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[00:49] <bekks> Hooray, correct download, wrong install medium.
[00:50]  * fantasai_ doesn't understand your logic here
[00:50] <knome> fantasai_, usb-creator-gtk downloaded an ISO for you
[00:50] <knome> fantasai_, you need to explicitly tell it to use the ISO you downloaded
[00:51] <fantasai_> I did that
[00:51] <fantasai_> at least, I thought I did
[00:52] <fantasai_> oh, you were asking me how long it took to make the uSB, not how long it took to download the file?
[00:52]  * fantasai_ doesn't remember, both things took awhile
[00:52] <knome> yes
[00:53] <madjo3> ok excuse-me again, i cant move nor quit a terminal, so i cant disconnect my self from irssi everytimes i open a new terminal, thats why im 3 times in the channel :S    i can't clear the cache, the terminal tell me there is no such file or directory, maybe is there a command to restart xfce4 ? like the compiz --replace but with xfce ?
[00:54] <knome> madjo3, you can run "xfwm4 --replace" to make sure the xfce desktop is running
[00:55] <madjo3> ok (if i do this i will have to reconnect again as madjo4) so please dont ban me :/   i will try and come back..
[00:57] <madjo2> okay now i can move the windows
[00:58] <madjo2> but i still have no desk bar...
[00:58] <madjo2> (xfwm4:4611): Gtk-WARNING **: Impossible de trouver le moteur de thème dans module_path : « hcengine »
[00:58] <madjo2> Waiting for current window manager (Compiz) on screen :0.0 to exit: Done
[00:58] <madjo2> (xfwm4:4611): xfwm4-WARNING **: Unmanaged net_wm_state (window 0x3601fd2, atom "_NET_WM_STATE_FOCUSED")
[00:59] <madjo2> (xfwm4:4611): xfwm4-WARNING **: Bottom strut value for application window 0xe00004 confined to 768
[00:59] <knome> !pastebin | madjo3
[00:59] <knome> madjo2, ^
[00:59] <madjo2> i have no interface, i cant send any screenshots unfortunatly...
[00:59] <knome> that was referring to multi-line text pastes
[01:00] <knome> maybe you want to run xfce4-panel
[01:00] <madjo2> now that i can move windows and copy/paste, maybe i will be able to do something like that yes..
[03:20] <xubuntu29w> hello? hola?
[03:21] <holstein> xubuntu29w: welcome
[03:22] <xubuntu29w> thanks! I need a littlehelp
[03:24] <holstein> xubuntu29w: sure.. just ask.. a volunteer may volunteer assistance
[03:27] <ObrienDave> xubuntu29w, we can't help you if you don't state what the issue is
[03:28]  * ObrienDave closes eyes and nods off to sleep
[03:31] <xubuntu29w> first sorry for my bad english
[03:31] <holstein> !es
[03:32] <xubuntu29w> I will send a link with a image
[03:32] <xubuntu29w> of my desktop
[03:32] <xubuntu29w> http://www.zimagez.com/full/6cf72e8c9378b261817defaa1cf6b754476ae49071862dae6924c0fb25bf0a9d3a3d9f5b422a14a717c7deffc1030d0eda55113fdd541408.php
[03:33] <xubuntu29w> lookto the icons of the right on top
[03:38] <ObrienDave> please use a different image service like imgur.com
[03:38] <holstein> well, i see the image
[03:38] <holstein> xubuntu29w: i see the image, and the icons.. whats up?
[03:38] <holstein> xubuntu29w: have you customized your icons? and dont like them?
[03:40] <xubuntu29w> icons now have a white square around
[03:40] <holstein> sure.. is that unwanted?
[03:40] <holstein> where did you get them?
[03:40] <knome> xubuntu29w, which GTK theme do you use?
[03:41] <knome> xubuntu29w, do you use a PPA or any version that is not in the repositories?
[03:41] <holstein> maybe one of the drop in .deb deals.. its not familiar, visually, to me
[03:41] <knome> xubuntu29w, and have you restarted after this happened?
[03:42] <xubuntu29w> faba mono iconset
[03:42] <xubuntu29w> yes
[03:43] <knome> so which gtk theme are you using, under appearance?
[03:43] <xubuntu29w> greybird
[03:43] <xubuntu29w> xD
[03:43] <knome> is it the one from the repository?
[03:43] <xubuntu29w> yes the default one
[03:44] <knome> and which xubuntu version do you use?
[03:46] <xubuntu29w> 14.04 lts
[03:49] <knome> xubuntu29w, theoretically i should have the same bug, but don't...
[03:49] <xubuntu29w> today it work fine
[03:50] <xubuntu29w> the I run the Apt-get update
[03:50] <xubuntu29w> and
[03:50] <xubuntu29w> apt-get upgrad
[03:50] <xubuntu29w> and this appeared
[03:51] <holstein> xubuntu29w: you have re-applied the theme?
[03:51] <xubuntu29w> yes
[03:51] <xubuntu29w> this bug
[03:51] <xubuntu29w> appears in every theme
[04:56] <xubuntu09w> Can anyone recommend the best way for me to learn how to use Ubuntu, I just got a server with Ubutu on it
[04:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu09w, download issue #0 of www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads.    Read.  Get issue #01.  Read.  Repeat >>> issue #93
[05:04] <xubuntu09w> Thank you cfhowlett, this is like me trying to read Chinese Hahaha
[05:05] <Unit193> There's the Xubuntu docs, and should be a crash course somewhere.
[05:05] <xubuntu09w> how do I run exe files on Ubuntu, I am trying to install a virus protection
[05:06] <cfhowlett> xubuntu09w, there's a Server collection: http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issueSE01_en.pdf
[05:06] <cfhowlett> !virus | xubuntu09w
[05:06] <xubuntu09w> oh ok, I didnt know that
[05:06] <xubuntu09w> I have always been a windows person
[05:06] <cfhowlett> xubuntu09w, you're installing windows virus protection on ubuntu?  ummm, no, that ain't right...
[05:07] <xubuntu09w> no, it's the Linux/Umbutu version of NOD32 by Eset
[05:07] <cfhowlett> xubuntu09w, the LINUX version is NOT .exe ...
[05:09] <xubuntu09w> oh I see what it was trying to do, eset wanted to install THEIR downloader
[05:49] <vista-> hey, anyone here also encountered trouble with laptop lid behavior acting weird?
[05:51] <vista-> I already did the config change for systemd so that xfce's power manager handles lid behavior
[05:52] <vista-> but I am still having trouble with it
[05:52] <vista-> what I want it to do: lock the session and turn of screen if on AC and suspend & lock when on battery
[05:53] <vista-> the battery part works, the AC one gives me the headaches
[05:53] <vista-> if I set the power manager to lock, but not suspend, it suspends & locks
[05:54] <vista-> it also suspends if I manually lock the session and then close the lid
[08:18] <brainwash> vista-: you could try another screen locker and see if it helps
[12:28] <xubuntu68w> I am using Xubuntu 14.04 on a netbook with an external keyboard. After a session pause, login fails using the external keyboard, works using the built in one. Apparently the login module does not provide the right keyboard layout. Does someone have a clue?
[12:30] <xubuntu68w> P.S. that happens only on the login after a pause. The initial login works perfectly.
[12:41] <GeekDude> I've put Xubuntu onto a family computer. Should I get some kind of anti-virus, or is relying on the fact that it's linux and I have adblock fine?
[12:42] <knome> !virus | GeekDude
[12:43] <GeekDude> ... ubottu is disagreeing with the article?
[12:44] <GeekDude> "Why do I need anti-virus software?": "Linux virus infections are theoretically possible."
[12:45] <knome> that always requires the root access, which the viruses will have hard time getting unless you use your computer in a non-safe way (eg. type the sudo password without thinking what the system needs it for)
[12:45] <knome> attacks via bugs in software are the worst threat, but an antivirus software isn't really useful for that
[12:46] <knome> keeping your software up-to-date is the best thing to do against that.
[12:46] <GeekDude> You don't have to be root to install spyware extensions on browsers
[12:46] <xubuntu68w> LINUX infections are a reality in the server world...
[12:47] <knome> GeekDude, no, but they need user approval; if the user behaves in a non-safe way, there's no way the system can fix that.
[12:47] <xubuntu68w> On the desktop one doesn't really need to be paranoid. Not YET.
[12:48] <knome> xubuntu68w, same thing with servers; if the software is up to date, you're safe
[12:49] <GeekDude> I don't pirate, but isn't "With pirated programs you can never be sure of what extra stuff has been added and may often end up getting malware or viruses." a bit misleading with the wonderful world of checksums?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> GeekDude,  or screwy sites ...
[12:50] <knome> GeekDude, that looks like bad editing, it's talking about the windows world in that paragraph
[12:50] <GeekDude> Well, the paragraph does start "With windows"
[12:51] <xubuntu68w> In fact, you're never completely safe. Especially when you don't understand the scripts you have been cutting and pasting into your terminal.
[12:51] <GeekDude> I'd say it would apply more to cracks than straight programs, and should be edited to something of that effect. "With pirated, and often cracked programs"
[12:52] <knome> GeekDude, it's a wiki, you can edit it
[12:52]  * GeekDude looks for the edit guide 
[13:00] <xubuntu68w> May ask another question? In my XFCE panel the notifications diappeared and these notifications are greyed out in the panel processing dialog. Has someone got a clue?
[13:00] <GeekDude> I'm having a bit of trouble finding the edit feature now that I have an account
[13:00] <knome> GeekDude, make sure the page is hard-refreshed and look at the left top
[13:01] <GeekDude> http://i.imgur.com/4UexY5N.png
[13:01] <knome> right... did you hard-refresh the page?
[13:02] <GeekDude> ^F5, yes
[13:02] <knome> that's not hard refresh.. try ctrl+shift+R
[13:04] <GeekDude> http://stackoverflow.com/a/385491 says "CTRL-F5 is used to force an update, disregarding any cache." That being said, Ctrl-Shift-R didn't change the page any more than Ctrl-F5
[13:05] <knome> GeekDude, no need to get offended.. i didn't acknowledge you were using ^ to imply ctrl
[13:05] <knome> GeekDude, how did you log in?
[13:06] <GeekDude> I hit "Login to edit" and made a new account in the page it sent me to
[13:06] <GeekDude> then I opened the verification email
[13:06] <GeekDude> It said I was verified, so I browsed back to the antivirus page
[13:06] <knome> was that page on login.ubuntu.com or launchpad?
[13:07] <GeekDude> looks to be login.ubuntu.com looking at my history
[13:08] <knome> GeekDude, ok, login to launchpad with your newly created account to link a username toit
[13:08] <knome> then log in again to the ubuntu wiki
[13:11] <GeekDude> knome: It worked!
[13:14] <knome> GeekDude, unfortunately, the problem you described is a known, reported bug...
[13:14] <GeekDude> Huh
[19:03] <xubuntu514> hi people
[19:04] <xubuntu514> nice chanel!
[19:06] <elfy> xubuntu514: do you have an issue ?
[19:06] <xubuntu514> yes
[19:07] <elfy> !ask
[19:07] <xubuntu514> !patience
[19:08]  * xubuntu514 loves xubuntu
[19:10] <xubuntu514> have already fixed
[19:11] <xubuntu514> I have never installed xubuntu before. Desctope looks pretty good.
[19:11] <xubuntu514> many useful features
[19:12] <elfy> good - I'm sure the team will be pleased :)
[19:12] <xubuntu514> they did a good work
[19:12] <xubuntu514> no unity, it's fantastic
[19:13] <xubuntu514> I'm really enjoying
[19:14] <xubuntu514> I can use my pc with no pain
[19:14] <xubuntu514> verry happy
[19:15] <xubuntu514> I'm from Mapusa
[19:16] <xubuntu514> some people call it Mapuca
[19:17] <xubuntu514> good weather
[19:17] <xubuntu514> how are you doing today?
[19:21] <xubuntu514> I am going to reboot my pc, will be soon
[20:04] <guest2> anyone else having complete system slowdown after 5-10 minutes with 14.04 with (cpu and mem iddling at 5% and 20% respectively)
[20:09] <guest2> it started to happen after a recent update, does that mean you should never update your distro if you want to use it for more then a week?
[20:30] <xubuntu86w> After an update, my default keyboard disposition became English. How can I change it because actually everytime I must type "setxkbmap fr". I think it's because of an ibus update.
[20:30] <xubuntu86w> And also a keyboard icon apparead with only "English"
[20:33] <brainwosh> xubuntu86w, was ibus installed before the update?
[20:34] <brainwosh> if you don't actually need it, just remove it
[20:35] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: I don't know at all my friend but I know I see   Available input methods: ibus xim
[20:35] <brainwosh> ibus is not installed by default in xubuntu
[20:36] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: It can be a dependecy
[20:36] <xubuntu86w> Is there any command to determine which packet needs ibus?
[20:36] <xubuntu86w> Or I just remove it to see if there is any error
[20:36] <brainwosh> that would be the easiest way
[20:38] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: i'm purging it
[20:38] <elfy> if it is a dependency - it'll be a dependency of something you installed :)
[20:39] <xubuntu86w> Another question: when I pass from a video to an another on Youtube everytime I must reload the page to have to sound if not I have the image but not the sound
[20:39] <xubuntu86w> Is it a flash or a pilote problem ? any solution ?
[20:39] <xubuntu86w> elfy: yes you're right I'll see
[20:40] <brainwosh> could be the flash player or html5 player, maybe the web browser
[20:40] <brainwosh> youtube uses the html5 player by default now (in most cases)
[20:41] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: I don't use html5 on youtube and no youtube don't use html5 by default only if flash is not installed
[20:41] <xubuntu86w> and I use firefox with the last update I don't understand this problem
[20:44] <brainwosh> test with chrome or another browser
[20:44] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: what is interresting this problem comes on with youtube
[20:45] <brainwosh> no clue, it works fine here
[20:46] <brainwosh> you will have to test different options/browsers
[20:46] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: do you think it's an audio driver problem or a video driver problem ?
[20:46] <brainwosh> missing sound a video driver problem? nah
[20:47] <brainwosh> does the html5 player trigger this problem?
[20:48] <brainwosh> https://www.youtube.com/html5
[20:48] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: already tested the same problem
[20:50] <brainwosh> did you try anything else to solve it? I'd guess that you can find many possible answers on askubuntu, ubuntuforums,...
[20:51] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: I tried nothing
[20:52] <brainwosh> you should give chrome or chromium a try then
[20:53] <xubuntu86w> brainwosh: you're right
[20:53] <brainwosh> to see if it's a general issue
[22:46] <xubuntu10w> I have problems installing viber
[22:47] <xubuntu10w> The package is of bad quality
[22:47] <xubuntu10w> and then it crash at around 80-90%
[22:48] <xubuntu10w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10080789/
[22:48] <xubuntu10w> Can someone help me with this?
[22:49] <brainwash> xubuntu10w: you could contact the package creator
[22:50] <brainwash> did you re-download the package to make sure that it is not broken?
[22:50] <anonymous_mk> yes i've tried that
[22:50] <anonymous_mk> do you think it may be xubuntu specific issue?
[22:51] <anonymous_mk> because they would have noticed if it was corrupted package by now
[22:51] <brainwash> not xubuntu specific, it does not even look ubuntu specific
[22:51] <anonymous_mk> hmm, its strange for such a big company to have broken package
[22:52] <brainwash> unexpected end of file means in many cases that the downloaded file is somewhat corrupted
[22:53] <brainwash> maybe they've just uploaded a new package version
[22:53] <anonymous_mk> I've re-downloaded like 5 times and its always the same
[22:53] <brainwash> you could try to install it on another machine (hardware or virtual)
[22:55] <brainwash> http://askubuntu.com/questions/536234/while-installatiog-viber-deb-with-dpkg-stopped-with-error
[22:55] <anonymous_mk> its strange that this doesnt work also
[22:55] <anonymous_mk> http://askubuntu.com/a/340925
[22:56] <anonymous_mk> zip file
[22:58] <anonymous_mk> Finally the zip file worked!
[22:58] <brainwash> great :)
[22:59] <anonymous_mk> thanks for trying to help @brainwash