[08:50]  * yofel spots a python3-launchpadlib :O \o/
[08:56] <valorie> have there been other reports of problems with konsole in 14.10?
[09:04] <bukai> Riddell: Hi
[09:06] <Riddell> hi bukai 
[09:06] <Riddell> valorie: not that I've heard
[09:06] <bukai> Riddell: I had an idea for site on mobile
[09:06] <valorie> me either
[09:06] <bukai> cant we design a seperate an m.kubuntu for the same?
[09:07] <bukai> Riddell: ^
[09:07] <valorie> user in #kubuntu just did update && upgrade, and now konsole and muon won't start
[09:07] <Riddell> bukai: I guess so but isn't it better to have 1 responsive website that works everywhere?
[09:07] <Riddell> bukai: I seem to remember your designs works well on mobile
[09:08] <bukai> Riddell: yes, I know but it's not the same
[09:08] <bukai> users will get a different look and feel
[09:08] <bukai> and having an m.kubuntu will solve that proble
[09:08] <bukai> *problem
[09:11] <Riddell> well sure if you think that's best but my feeling is it's best to finish off the one website before starting on another
[09:12] <bukai> Yes, I was planning on doing the same. I will start with it only after the current one goes live
[09:24] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:27] <yofel> valorie: side note: the opensuse build service can build debian/ubuntu packages and that xUbuntu-14.10 is a valid repository name (OBS is a bit weird with the naming)
[09:30] <lordievader> bukai: Are you aware that header images now repeat themselves along the x-axis?
[09:32] <bukai> Yes it is supposed to do that
[09:32] <lordievader> Hmm, if I may say so it looks strange.
[09:32] <bukai> lordievader: ^^
[09:33] <bukai> lordievader: Did you see it earlier?
[09:33] <lordievader> bukai: When it was streched you mean?
[09:33] <bukai> Did it not do that always?
[09:34] <bukai> yes
[09:36] <lordievader> bukai: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/kubu-wp.png
[09:38] <bukai> lordievader: thats strange. That should never happen. Let me check out
[09:39] <bukai> lordievader: how wide s your screen?
[09:39] <lordievader> bukai: That is why I reported it ;)
[09:39] <lordievader> bukai: It is a 2560x1440 screen.
[09:40] <bukai> lordievader: ok, I will fix it, but it's tough to fix as its working fine on my screen :P
[09:41] <lordievader> bukai: Set a maximum width for the content, show grey borders if that width is exceeded or something.
[09:41] <bukai> ok will do it
[09:41] <lordievader> By the by, it is already visible on a 1920x1080 monitor.
[09:42] <lordievader> Not on a 1280x1024.
[09:45] <valorie> thanks yofel
[09:46] <valorie> I haven't a clue why anyone would do it that way though
[09:47] <yofel> it's a nice way to provide debs if you usually work in the rpm world. (That doesn't usually help with the deb quality, but things work in most cases)
[09:50] <sitter> I think the bigger advantage is that you don't have to mess with launchpad and obs
[09:50] <sitter> unless you want to exclusively deliver to ubuntu there is really not much reason to use launchpad considering obs allows you to deliver to all the big players whereas launchpad doesn't even offer debian builds at this time :/
[09:52] <valorie> but debian has the debs
[09:52] <valorie> why get them from opensuse?
[09:52] <valorie> seems nuts to me
[09:53] <yofel> valorie: no, it's like our PPA's, extra packages additional to the distribution archives
[09:54] <valorie> ok, this guy was using it for xubuntu 14.10
[09:54] <valorie> which is available from launchpad
[09:54] <valorie> i dunno
[09:54] <yofel> no, that 'x' just comes from the naming on OBS and has nothing to do with XFCE
[09:54] <valorie> ok
[09:54] <valorie> that was his guess
[09:54] <yofel> and as sitter said, why use launchpad if you have an OBS account and want to provide ubuntu packages
[09:54] <sitter> it's to denote all ubuntus which of course is sill because ubuntu already means all ubuntus ^^
[09:54] <valorie> people do odd stuff
[09:55] <valorie> right, but if you want xubuntu, and already have kubuntu, why not just install xubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <valorie> seems like the long way around the barn to get it from obs
[09:56] <yofel> er no. He doesn't want to use xubuntu, the ubuntu releases are just named xUbuntu-<version> on OBS
[09:57] <yofel> so xUbuntu-14.10 == "utopic" on launchpad
[10:29] <soee> hiho
[10:41] <lordievader> Hmm, X just died on me in Vivid :(
[10:42] <lordievader> Long live tmux :D
[11:49] <Riddell> Tm_T: what is ubuntu insider?
[11:50] <Tm_T> Riddell: apparently it's some group of people Canonical has formed and invited to London relating Ubuntu phone stuff
[11:50] <Tm_T> they just asked me to share my feelings on Ubuntu phone
[11:51] <Tm_T> I am still puzzled why I was included, but meh, I'm going to ask them some tough questions in a moment if I have opportunity
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:16] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj 
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi Riddell
[12:18] <BluesKaj> so what's up today...any news?
[12:47] <soee> BluesKaj: hiho, have you seen my message yesterday about freeze bug ?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> hi soee, i don't recall
[12:51] <bhattigurjot> Hi, I am getting this "org.kde.plasma.private.kickoff is not installed" error when I click on the application launcher button on the task bar
[12:51] <soee> BluesKaj: 21:04] <soee> BluesKaj: there is fix released for a bug that caused system freeze, maybe it's the sam eproblem you have had: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340294
[12:51] <bhattigurjot> Just installed the KUbuntu 15.04
[13:13] <Riddell> testers needed for this langpack starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kde-l10n-es_14.12.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[13:14] <soee> Riddell: why it contains info about 14.12.0 and 14.12.2 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_14.12.2_vivid.html ?
[13:16] <Riddell> soee: dunno sgclark's been doing that
[13:24] <soee> ah, ok, than ill ask her :)
[13:27] <soee> Chromium 40 released
[13:29] <Riddell> firefox has started blocking flash for me
[13:29] <Riddell> it's outdated it says
[13:36] <soee> http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/trend-micro-discovers-new-adobe-flash-zero-day-exploit-used-in-malvertisements/
[13:43] <sitter> qca2 rebuild broken :'<
[13:44] <sitter> ### Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers, please read /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/README
[13:44] <sitter> mh
[13:44] <sitter> Riddell: btw, I think that actually needs whitlisting for Kubuntu Developers and Ubuntu Developers
[13:45] <Riddell> sitter: what sort of whitelist?
[13:47] <sitter> Riddell: in pkg-kde-tools
[13:47] <sitter> it fails builds when the maintainer is not debian qt or debian/kde qt
[13:47] <sitter> eh
[13:47] <sitter> debian/kubuntu qt
[13:47] <Riddell> oh I see
[13:47] <sitter> which still excludes kubuntu developers and ubuntu developers
[13:47] <sitter> which are both valid maintainers on our side
[13:48] <BluesKaj> soee, pm ?
[13:49]  * Riddell uploads kde-l10n
[14:04] <Riddell> yofel: libkdegames up
[14:33] <yofel> thanks :)
[14:35] <soee> is there some stream from phone conference ?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> my desktop crapped out with kubuntu-ci repos trying to fix the system settings freezes, so I'm just going to reinstall , too many broken packages 
[15:58] <soee> yuo shoudn't use all packaged form kubnut-ci, just the ne with the fix :)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> plasma-workspace yeah , I did 
[15:59] <BluesKaj> broke konversation and muon etc
[15:59] <soee> ah, ok
[16:00] <soee> than maybe better to try  weekly
[16:00] <BluesKaj> dling the daily as we speak , it's 2 weeks newer than the one i installed from previously'
[16:01] <BluesKaj> no biggie , still have 14.10 as a fallback
[16:04] <BluesKaj> btw soee there were dependency errors with the plasma-workspace install as well
[16:05] <soee> BluesKaj: sure, 5.2.1 will be released in 2 weeks so it will get into Vivid soon anyway 
[16:05] <BluesKaj> so the depends basically blocked any further installation of packages from kubuntu-ci anyway 
[16:06] <BluesKaj> so I commented the ci ppa ...maybe the the newer dialy will have the fixes
[16:06] <BluesKaj> or patches
[16:09] <soee> im also waiting for it, there is also fix for java based apps - they prevent focus on oter windows when clicked once
[16:10] <soee> and as main IDE is PhpStorm taht uses Jaba
[16:10] <soee> *Java, it sometimes a bit annoying
[16:13] <soee> but the most annoying bug in QT: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40207
[16:18] <BluesKaj> haven't seen that
[16:19] <BluesKaj> bug I mean
[16:19] <soee> i wonder if QT 5.4 is also affected
[16:20] <yofel> can't see I've seen any weird behavior with phpstorm so far...
[16:20] <yofel> *can't say
[16:22] <soee> yofel: there is, when it is launching it somehow takeover focus from other apps
[16:22] <soee> im on java 8 and phpstorm 8.x
[16:23] <yofel> well, window focusing in plasma5 is completely messed up for me anyway, so maybe I just didn't notice *that*
[16:23] <soee> also the overal pervormance of this IDE is not so good, i wonder if switching system to ssd would help here
[16:24] <sitter> yofel: with 5.2 as well?
[16:24] <sgclark> soee: I have no idea why it is showing old stuff...
[16:25] <sitter> I was rather under the impression that the biggest culprit WRT focus was fixed, or at least worked around
[16:25] <sitter> used to be that half the windows didn't get focus when they should have had ^^
[16:25] <sgclark> Riddell: power surge killed my desktop, I am back up and running on laptop but running behind..
[16:25] <yofel> sitter: partly, but now I switched to "focus follows mouse" whichs works reasonably well. With "click to focus" I had to do things like klick on firefox twice for it to get focused
[16:26] <soee> sgclark: there are not such apackages (14.12.0) in this ppa this raport is generated for ?
[16:26] <sitter> soee: there's no CI snapshots for vivid, there's only the actual landing PPA
[16:26] <sitter> which is going to change sometime soon, not sure about weely, but daily probably will come
[16:26] <sitter> yofel: yeah, I had stealing prevention totally disabled
[16:27] <soee> BluesKaj: so you used daily for Utopic ?
[16:27] <sitter> and the click twice thing was a bug in Qt thing, at least I recall patching something like that for netrunner
[16:27] <yofel> ah ok
[16:27] <sitter> so it'd be fixed with qt5.4.1 
[16:28] <soee> sitter: and 5.4.1 shudl be released this month right ?
[16:28] <sitter> something like that, it's what we are supposed to get for 15.04 anyway
[16:28] <soee> how long it needs to makne its way into ubutnu ?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> soee, yes , it was 2 weeks old, trying to DL the latest daily , but it stalled at the last minute and failed and there's nothing wrong with my internet connection 
[16:28] <sitter> I think Mirv is on top of things there, so once it gets released we should have it in kubuntu shortly therafter
[16:28] <sgclark> soee: ah maybe the ppa needs to be cleaned out.
[16:29] <soee> sgclark: :D
[16:29] <sitter> sgclark: which ppa are we talking about?
[16:29] <sgclark> ninjas
[16:29] <sitter> oh yes
[16:29] <yofel> wouldn't missing stuff mean not-uploaded-stuff?
[16:29] <sitter> I was actually thinking
[16:29] <yofel> that status page has far too much old stuff
[16:30] <sitter> a) ninjas and kubuntu-ppa needs 3 stage PPAs for frameworks,plasma and apps one each b) before a new version is uploaded the entire stage needs to be wiped
[16:30]  * yofel looks at the ppa
[16:30] <sitter> yofel: could also be rejected
[16:31] <sitter> but judging from how many things don't upload when Riddell does a release I'd not be surprised if the script peed its pants and refused to upload something 
[16:31] <sitter> anyway
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[16:31] <sgclark> yeah my mistake, been awhile
[16:31] <sitter> I am out for sake and stuff
[16:31] <sgclark> see yas
[16:32] <yofel> sgclark: nah, uploading can get annoying. I usually don't do dput *.changes but < for file in *.changes; do dput $file; done > ^^
[16:32] <yofel> that way it won't just abort ^^
[16:32] <yofel> (although I then do have to read the log whether something happened)
[16:33] <sgclark> yofel: oh my desktop blew up from a power surge last night quite possibly mid upload. 
[16:33] <yofel> that's... not good >.<
[16:33] <sgclark> I had to set everything up on laptop and now catching up
[16:34] <sgclark> nope
[17:01] <sgclark> ok ppa cleaned up and running the applications that were missed
[17:03] <BluesKaj> the daily fails to finish downloading, it's been stuck at "a few seconds remaining" for several mins now
[17:04] <BluesKaj> the 64 bit version
[17:04] <soee> sgclark: nice
[17:04] <BluesKaj> this is the second failure wityh the last hr
[17:04] <BluesKaj> wthin
[17:05] <soee> BluesKaj: but daily is for Utopic only
[17:07] <BluesKaj> soee,http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ ..I managed to finish it by pausing then resiuming
[17:08] <soee> ah image, not ppa
[17:08] <BluesKaj> no pps , Insaid ai was going to reinstall the daily 
[17:08] <BluesKaj> anyway bbl
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com/en/2015/02/06/my-first-experience-at-fosdem/
[21:57] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: are you around?
[22:03] <genii> I thought he was a taking a break ( according to the mailing list)
[22:20] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: did Canonical sponsor you?
[22:20] <valorie> or the Ubuntu supporters
[22:20] <ovidiu-florin> the Ubuntu fund
[22:20] <valorie> ok
[22:20] <ovidiu-florin> https://forms.canonical.com/cda/
[22:20] <ovidiu-florin> this form
[22:20] <valorie> it would be good to thank them instead of Canaonical then....
[22:20] <ovidiu-florin> have I expressed myself wrong?
[22:21] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: ^
[22:21] <valorie> that money does not come from Canonical, but from the Ubuntu Community
[22:21] <ovidiu-florin> ok, then, I'll update
[22:21] <valorie> thank you, ovidiu-florin
[22:23] <ovidiu-florin> no, thank you valorie
[22:23] <ovidiu-florin> check now
[22:24] <valorie> wow, nice sticker collection!
[22:24] <valorie> and great photos
[22:24] <valorie> :-)
[22:24] <valorie> \o/
[22:25] <valorie> ha, and and kfunk are badass
[22:26] <valorie> lol, that last sign of the shuttle - little boy taking a pee
[22:35] <soee_> what do you guys think about ubuntu phone ? have you seen teh conference etc. ?
[22:35] <ovidiu-florin> does planetkde update, if I've updated my post?
[22:38] <ovidiu-florin> yes it does, it just did :D
[22:39] <ovidiu-florin> awesome