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s716anyone home?06:48
s716hi06:50
hateballI am sure there06:54
hateball!ask | s71606:55
ubottus716: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:55
s716this program sucks i'm nuking it  later06:56
boobaahi all08:21
boobaahow to get konsole working again after today's apt-get upgrade && reboot?08:22
boobaaif I want to start it from yakuake, then all I get is two lines of dbus messages, and nothing else: the konsole process just sits there, without opening any windows08:23
boobaaI even have to use yakuake to be able to reach my irssi running in screen on a remote machine, and it's a nightmare for my workflow08:24
valorieboobaa: what version are you running, and what PPAs do you have allowed?08:34
boobaaI'm running kubuntu 14.1008:35
valorieI like the nick, btw08:35
boobaahow do I get a list of active the PPAs?08:35
valorielook in muon?08:35
valorieor your apt/sources.list08:35
boobaaif only K menu would open... :(08:36
boobaadeb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)08:36
boobaadeb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/olav-st/xUbuntu_14.10/ /08:36
Unit193`inxi -r` will do it too. ;)08:36
boobaathat's all I see - oh, now I have the K menu08:36
valorie`cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/` in a pastebin08:36
valorieyou are running opensuse?08:37
boobaaI'm running kubuntu 14.1008:37
valoriethen your two lines above are mighty confusing08:38
boobaavalorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10087966/08:39
boobaamuon doesn't seem to start, either08:39
valoriewhat is the grep bit?08:40
valoriethere is no way that is your entire file08:40
boobaathe grep bit is to filter out commented lines08:40
valorieI am totally confuses as to why you would have opensuse repos in your kubuntu 14.1008:41
boobaaI suppose lines starting with # don't play any role in selecting any PPA08:41
valorieif everything besides what you have is commented out, no wonder you are having problems08:41
boobaawell, I don't think it's a repo for opensuse - I think it's a repo for xUbuntu-14.10 which is on the opensuse server08:41
valorie!08:42
valoriexubuntu is a flavor of ubuntu, and would never have a repo on opensuse servers08:42
valorienever08:42
valorie!ppa-purge08:43
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html08:43
valorieI would get rid of that pronto, and find out why so many of the repositories you should have active are commented out08:43
boobaaif I open http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/olav-st/xUbuntu_14.10/ in a browser then I see a debian-like repo, which I suppose works fine with any flavors of ubuntu08:43
boobaaand I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with my konsole/muon problem.08:44
valorie....if you know what you are doing08:44
boobaawell, everything worked fine before today's apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot.08:44
valoriehere is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088090/08:45
valorieI am running plasma 5 though08:46
boobaathere we go. you instructed me to paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, which I did, and you want to compare it with your /etc/apt/sources.list - am I right? :)08:47
boobaavalorie: here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088132/08:49
valorieplease remove extras, as that is no longer used, and there have been problems when it is still active08:54
valoriebut you are right, those are not the source of your present difficulty08:54
boobaaokay, I commented those three lines - now what to do?08:55
valoriewell, I would have used ppa-purge, just in case those we a source of any problems08:57
valoriebut whatever08:57
valorieI've asked in the devel chan if there have been other reported problems with konsole in 14.1008:57
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valorieno response yet but it is early08:58
valorielet me see what I can find in launchpad08:58
valoriehmmm, no09:00
valorieso for now, please run from the cli: `ubuntu-bug konsole`09:01
boobaait seems like it's not related/specific to konsole, as I can't start /usr/bin/muon either09:01
valoriedid you have any error messages when doing the upgrade?09:01
boobaano - however, muon may have hidden them from me.09:01
valoriealso, you might try `apt dist-upgrade`09:02
boobaa`ubuntu-bug konsole` does nothing, either09:02
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valorie!09:03
boobaa`apt dist-upgrade` runs fine, installs nothing, removes nothing, exits fine09:03
valoriedoes nothing, or is working in the background?09:03
valorieit isn't instant09:03
valorieit is the slickest and best way to file a bug on launchpad09:04
valorieboobaa: do either konsole or muon start from krunner? (alt+f2)09:05
boobaano.09:05
valorieboo09:06
valoriethere is no reason they should not work09:06
boobaayes09:12
boobaaI had to restart skype since I'm having an appointment right now09:12
boobaabut I couldn't, so I tried rebooting09:12
boobaabut K menu lacked that option09:12
boobaaso I had to do a power-cycle by long-pressing the power button09:13
boobaabut konsole still doesn't start from yakuake09:13
boobaavalorie: here are todays entries from /var/log/dpkg.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088462/09:19
boobaahowever, I don't see anything that may cause these bugs. :S09:20
lordievaderGood morning.09:23
valorieboobaa: please report the bug when you have time09:46
boobaavalorie: where and how?09:54
valorieubuntu-bug konsole09:56
valorieyou should be able to do that from a console even if konsole is not working for you09:56
valoriecontrol+alt+f2 or f3, etc.09:57
valorief6 or f7 to get back to your regular session09:57
boobaaif I start `ubuntu-bug konsole` from yakuake, the process starts, but I can see nothing else10:05
lordievaderboobaa: Is the correct display set?10:08
boobaaokay, I have submitted something from a console10:08
boobaalordievader: how do I know that?10:08
lordievaderboobaa: echo $DISPLAY10:09
lordievaderUsually it returns :010:09
boobaaboobaa@sloth:~$ echo $DISPLAY10:09
boobaa:010:09
boobaayes, it seems to be correct10:09
alvinI can not remember typing the passphrase to my private ssh key, yet all ssh connections are working. Could it be that KDE somehow saves the passphrase?10:23
hateballalvin: you've not setup ksshaskpass to use kwallet?10:26
alvinI really can't remember. I thought not, but maybe, just maybe I've ticked something to remeber the phrase. I'll check Kwallet10:26
alvinnope, it's not there10:27
lordievaderalvin: ssh agent?10:28
alvinStrange. That's not even running. I usually start that manually10:28
alvinI might be imagining things. No time to research this now, but I'll have to check this out later.10:29
drawkwardthe documentation inside my qt creator seems broken. how can i fix it?10:58
BluesKajHowdy all12:16
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FritigernBluesKaj: I was wondering, Do you use KVM?12:20
BluesKajFritigern, not yet, been thinking about it12:21
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FritigernKVM is so flipping slow for me! I have an i7 x990, with 6 cores, using HTT that makes 12 virtual cores. I assigned 6 to KVM and the thing is slow like molasses!12:22
FritigernI use testdrive BTW12:22
Fritigern!testdrive12:22
FritigernOh, i thought ubottu would pick that up. Hmmmm12:22
hateball!info testdrive12:22
hateballmhm12:23
HmpfCBR30B!zZ;)12:23
FritigernI did ask ubottu in private, and he replied "[01:46:04] [[ ubottu ]] Testdrive makes it simple to run any Ubuntu release in a virtual machine, safely, and without affecting your current Ubuntu installation. See: https://launchpad.net/testdrive"12:23
BluesKaj!info testdrive12:23
BluesKajodd, it's in the repos12:24
ubottuTestdrive makes it simple to run any Ubuntu release in a virtual machine, safely, and without affecting your current Ubuntu installation. See: https://launchpad.net/testdrive12:24
FritigernI guess ubottu fell into a coma12:24
ubottutestdrive (source: testdrive): run the daily Ubuntu ISO in a virtual machine (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 3 kB, installed size 35 kB12:24
FritigernOh, there he is!12:24
BluesKajoops, bot  is slow today12:24
monkeyjuicemorning BluesKaj12:25
FritigernAnyway, testdrive gives you the option to run the image in KVM, VirtualBox or Parallels. I don;t have the latter, so i can;t try that. I know that in VBox the screen gets garbled. and KVM is slow, i mean, REALLY slow! Dunno if i can even make it faster12:26
BluesKajFritigern, I haven't had much luck with qemu-kvm ...tried VB for a while but found it lacking mediawise12:26
BluesKajFritigern, the more memory assigned seems to make VMs faster IME12:29
FritigernBluesKaj: So.... what do you use now if not VBox or KVM?12:29
FritigernAnd i have 4gb assigned12:29
BluesKajI dual boot on my laptop, don't need windows for much except to keep up on W7 for wife's sake12:30
* Fritigern hasn't had Windows on his PC since 200512:31
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BluesKajwifes has a windows pc so I keep abreast of what's happening , being an ols windows guy, I have nothing against windows , just prefer kubuntu/linux now12:34
bhattigurjotHi, I am getting this "org.kde.plasma.private.kickoff is not installed" error when I click on the application launcher button on the task bar12:34
bhattigurjotJust installed the KUbuntu 15.0412:34
BluesKajbhattigurjot, make sure you update and upgrade12:35
FritigernSorry, for support with alphas, you should really go to #ubuntu+112:35
BluesKajbhattigurjot, and #ubuntu+1 supports all flavours of 15.0412:36
bhattigurjotBluesKaj: Already did that.12:36
bhattigurjotFritigern: Ok12:37
FritigernI am so curious about the Vivid alpha, but at the same time i am scared to move to plasma5. So much could go wrong...12:58
BluesKaj Fritigern not recommended for a production pc12:59
FritigernI know12:59
BluesKaj<--home user12:59
FritigernBut even if vivid were already finalized, i would be scared12:59
BluesKajgetting some desktop freeezes that logging into and out of the VT/TTY fixes13:01
FritigernIn the past i have done risky upgrades, including installing first alphas, ran into issues and fixed them. But this one makes me nervous.13:02
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soeeFritigern: im not usre what can be scarry here :)13:03
soeeif you have home on separate partition, of your system gets broken you can always reinstall and hats all :)13:04
FritigernThat's the thing, i don;t have that.13:04
soee;o13:04
BluesKajyeah, it's not my faviourite so far , I'm not a fan of the new plasma 5 "look",  simplistic icons and flat buttons etc13:04
FritigernAs far as the look goes, it's just a matter of time before more 3d-syle themes become available13:05
soeeFritigern: i dnt think this happen this year13:06
BluesKajsoee, where's the fix in the url you posted?13:06
BluesKajI see a whole lot of comments etc , bi=ut no patch...13:07
soeeBluesKaj: well there is a link to commit wih the fix, but the whole package has to be rebuld with this fix13:07
soeeBluesKaj: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/plasma-workspace/repository/revisions/116b1d170eb25b957a3c0f3d21b429afc3f88d6a13:07
BluesKajoh no not that one ,  the one with no make file13:08
soeewhat ?13:08
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designbybeckI have a lot of users across my work IM/facebook/gtalk on pidgin, and when they login/out the notification tray goes crazy showing them all at ones and then I clear in and then it just keeps going when other users come on or off15:24
designbybeckcan I change that setting somewhere?15:24
designbybeckI do want to see some application notifications just not all those login/offs from pidgin15:28
rberg_designbybeck: it looks that that setting is in Tools/Plugins/libnotify popups/configure plugin15:31
designbybeckAAHhh Thank you rberg_ ...didn't think to look in the plugins for anything!!15:32
rberg_anytime15:32
rberg_I am a hug fan of reduced notifications.15:33
designbybeck;)15:35
designbybeckand what about the setting to resize with alt+mmb instead of right?15:35
designbybeckI thought I was in the right place but couldn't seem to change it15:35
pet0hello friends16:51
pet0i just installed kubuntu and have triple monitor setup16:51
pet0when i start the computer all i can see is black screens16:51
pet0with a pink stripe on the left of each16:51
pet0can you help me to solve this? now im only using one and it works16:51
r2f6k\help16:56
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r2f6k /msg AuthServ@Services.OnlineGamesNet.net COOKIE rafik88 VoKqTXhb5P17:03
r2f6k /msg AuthServ@Services.OnlineGamesNet.net COOKIE rafik88 VoKqTXhb5P17:03
r2f6k  /AuthServ auth R2F6K lalu4eje17:06
Captain_Haddockpet0: Try 2 first.17:22
boobaaokay, it looks like today's apt-get upgrade has screwed up something in my $HOME19:53
boobaaI just checked konsole with a new user and it works fine. where to search for the reason that keeps konsole, muon, etc. from running?19:53
boobaa(and I got the idea of pasting an strace output of a wannabe konsole session, if it would help - would it help at all for any of you?)19:54
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ToniBonasera20:10
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mokushcan anybody using the vivid alpha tell me, if they found a way to make the spelling underlining work on kf5 apps like kate?21:48
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shallwehi guys, someone using kmail?22:37
keithzgshallwe: I don't use it that frequently, but I do have it configured and running on my work desktop.22:51
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seth__hey guys23:44
seth__I broke my steam after upgrading from the edgers ppa23:44
seth__any ideas to what I'm doing wrong? It says it can't load the radeonsi_dri.so23:45
soee_edgers offers radeon drivers ?23:46
seth__Yeah it's my understanding they are more cutting edge and shouldd give me better performance in dota accourding to a reddit post....23:47
seth__https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa23:47
soee_what package did you used ?23:47
seth__I just hit upgrade and it pulled some new ati packages automatically after adding the ppa. I'm probably missing something xD23:49
soee_im not familiar with ati drivers as im nvidia user23:50
soee_maybe ask on #ubuntu23:50
seth__I see. Oh well I'll keep trying some stuff. If I dont' get it I'll ask there. Cheers23:51
soee_you can just purge this ppa, and get previous verion of packages23:51
soee_it is not recommended to use anyway. but well i have been using it for a long time for latest nvidia drivers, and for me they worked nice23:52
seth__ok yeah I just read that I could purge the ppa on a post. TY going to that first and try again23:53
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