[06:48] <s716> anyone home?
[06:50] <s716> hi
[06:54] <hateball> I am sure there
[06:55] <hateball> !ask | s716
[06:56] <s716> this program sucks i'm nuking it  later
[08:21] <boobaa> hi all
[08:22] <boobaa> how to get konsole working again after today's apt-get upgrade && reboot?
[08:23] <boobaa> if I want to start it from yakuake, then all I get is two lines of dbus messages, and nothing else: the konsole process just sits there, without opening any windows
[08:24] <boobaa> I even have to use yakuake to be able to reach my irssi running in screen on a remote machine, and it's a nightmare for my workflow
[08:34] <valorie> boobaa: what version are you running, and what PPAs do you have allowed?
[08:35] <boobaa> I'm running kubuntu 14.10
[08:35] <valorie> I like the nick, btw
[08:35] <boobaa> how do I get a list of active the PPAs?
[08:35] <valorie> look in muon?
[08:35] <valorie> or your apt/sources.list
[08:36] <boobaa> if only K menu would open... :(
[08:36] <boobaa> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
[08:36] <boobaa> deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/olav-st/xUbuntu_14.10/ /
[08:36] <Unit193> `inxi -r` will do it too. ;)
[08:36] <boobaa> that's all I see - oh, now I have the K menu
[08:36] <valorie> `cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/` in a pastebin
[08:37] <valorie> you are running opensuse?
[08:37] <boobaa> I'm running kubuntu 14.10
[08:38] <valorie> then your two lines above are mighty confusing
[08:39] <boobaa> valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10087966/
[08:39] <boobaa> muon doesn't seem to start, either
[08:40] <valorie> what is the grep bit?
[08:40] <valorie> there is no way that is your entire file
[08:40] <boobaa> the grep bit is to filter out commented lines
[08:41] <valorie> I am totally confuses as to why you would have opensuse repos in your kubuntu 14.10
[08:41] <boobaa> I suppose lines starting with # don't play any role in selecting any PPA
[08:41] <valorie> if everything besides what you have is commented out, no wonder you are having problems
[08:41] <boobaa> well, I don't think it's a repo for opensuse - I think it's a repo for xUbuntu-14.10 which is on the opensuse server
[08:42] <valorie> !
[08:42] <valorie> xubuntu is a flavor of ubuntu, and would never have a repo on opensuse servers
[08:42] <valorie> never
[08:43] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[08:43] <valorie> I would get rid of that pronto, and find out why so many of the repositories you should have active are commented out
[08:43] <boobaa> if I open http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/olav-st/xUbuntu_14.10/ in a browser then I see a debian-like repo, which I suppose works fine with any flavors of ubuntu
[08:44] <boobaa> and I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with my konsole/muon problem.
[08:44] <valorie> ....if you know what you are doing
[08:44] <boobaa> well, everything worked fine before today's apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot.
[08:45] <valorie> here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088090/
[08:46] <valorie> I am running plasma 5 though
[08:47] <boobaa> there we go. you instructed me to paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, which I did, and you want to compare it with your /etc/apt/sources.list - am I right? :)
[08:49] <boobaa> valorie: here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088132/
[08:54] <valorie> please remove extras, as that is no longer used, and there have been problems when it is still active
[08:54] <valorie> but you are right, those are not the source of your present difficulty
[08:55] <boobaa> okay, I commented those three lines - now what to do?
[08:57] <valorie> well, I would have used ppa-purge, just in case those we a source of any problems
[08:57] <valorie> but whatever
[08:57] <valorie> I've asked in the devel chan if there have been other reported problems with konsole in 14.10
[08:58] <valorie> no response yet but it is early
[08:58] <valorie> let me see what I can find in launchpad
[09:00] <valorie> hmmm, no
[09:01] <valorie> so for now, please run from the cli: `ubuntu-bug konsole`
[09:01] <boobaa> it seems like it's not related/specific to konsole, as I can't start /usr/bin/muon either
[09:01] <valorie> did you have any error messages when doing the upgrade?
[09:01] <boobaa> no - however, muon may have hidden them from me.
[09:02] <valorie> also, you might try `apt dist-upgrade`
[09:02] <boobaa> `ubuntu-bug konsole` does nothing, either
[09:03] <valorie> !
[09:03] <boobaa> `apt dist-upgrade` runs fine, installs nothing, removes nothing, exits fine
[09:03] <valorie> does nothing, or is working in the background?
[09:03] <valorie> it isn't instant
[09:04] <valorie> it is the slickest and best way to file a bug on launchpad
[09:05] <valorie> boobaa: do either konsole or muon start from krunner? (alt+f2)
[09:05] <boobaa> no.
[09:06] <valorie> boo
[09:06] <valorie> there is no reason they should not work
[09:12] <boobaa> yes
[09:12] <boobaa> I had to restart skype since I'm having an appointment right now
[09:12] <boobaa> but I couldn't, so I tried rebooting
[09:12] <boobaa> but K menu lacked that option
[09:13] <boobaa> so I had to do a power-cycle by long-pressing the power button
[09:13] <boobaa> but konsole still doesn't start from yakuake
[09:19] <boobaa> valorie: here are todays entries from /var/log/dpkg.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088462/
[09:20] <boobaa> however, I don't see anything that may cause these bugs. :S
[09:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:46] <valorie> boobaa: please report the bug when you have time
[09:54] <boobaa> valorie: where and how?
[09:56] <valorie> ubuntu-bug konsole
[09:56] <valorie> you should be able to do that from a console even if konsole is not working for you
[09:57] <valorie> control+alt+f2 or f3, etc.
[09:57] <valorie> f6 or f7 to get back to your regular session
[10:05] <boobaa> if I start `ubuntu-bug konsole` from yakuake, the process starts, but I can see nothing else
[10:08] <lordievader> boobaa: Is the correct display set?
[10:08] <boobaa> okay, I have submitted something from a console
[10:08] <boobaa> lordievader: how do I know that?
[10:09] <lordievader> boobaa: echo $DISPLAY
[10:09] <lordievader> Usually it returns :0
[10:09] <boobaa> boobaa@sloth:~$ echo $DISPLAY
[10:09] <boobaa> :0
[10:09] <boobaa> yes, it seems to be correct
[10:23] <alvin> I can not remember typing the passphrase to my private ssh key, yet all ssh connections are working. Could it be that KDE somehow saves the passphrase?
[10:26] <hateball> alvin: you've not setup ksshaskpass to use kwallet?
[10:26] <alvin> I really can't remember. I thought not, but maybe, just maybe I've ticked something to remeber the phrase. I'll check Kwallet
[10:27] <alvin> nope, it's not there
[10:28] <lordievader> alvin: ssh agent?
[10:28] <alvin> Strange. That's not even running. I usually start that manually
[10:29] <alvin> I might be imagining things. No time to research this now, but I'll have to check this out later.
[10:58] <drawkward> the documentation inside my qt creator seems broken. how can i fix it?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:20] <Fritigern> BluesKaj: I was wondering, Do you use KVM?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Fritigern, not yet, been thinking about it
[12:22] <Fritigern> KVM is so flipping slow for me! I have an i7 x990, with 6 cores, using HTT that makes 12 virtual cores. I assigned 6 to KVM and the thing is slow like molasses!
[12:22] <Fritigern> I use testdrive BTW
[12:22] <Fritigern> !testdrive
[12:22] <Fritigern> Oh, i thought ubottu would pick that up. Hmmmm
[12:22] <hateball> !info testdrive
[12:23] <hateball> mhm
[12:23] <HmpfCBR> 30B!zZ;)
[12:23] <Fritigern> I did ask ubottu in private, and he replied "[01:46:04] [[ ubottu ]] Testdrive makes it simple to run any Ubuntu release in a virtual machine, safely, and without affecting your current Ubuntu installation. See: https://launchpad.net/testdrive"
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !info testdrive
[12:24] <BluesKaj> odd, it's in the repos
[12:24] <Fritigern> I guess ubottu fell into a coma
[12:24] <Fritigern> Oh, there he is!
[12:24] <BluesKaj> oops, bot  is slow today
[12:25] <monkeyjuice> morning BluesKaj
[12:26] <Fritigern> Anyway, testdrive gives you the option to run the image in KVM, VirtualBox or Parallels. I don;t have the latter, so i can;t try that. I know that in VBox the screen gets garbled. and KVM is slow, i mean, REALLY slow! Dunno if i can even make it faster
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Fritigern, I haven't had much luck with qemu-kvm ...tried VB for a while but found it lacking mediawise
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Fritigern, the more memory assigned seems to make VMs faster IME
[12:29] <Fritigern> BluesKaj: So.... what do you use now if not VBox or KVM?
[12:29] <Fritigern> And i have 4gb assigned
[12:30] <BluesKaj> I dual boot on my laptop, don't need windows for much except to keep up on W7 for wife's sake
[12:31]  * Fritigern hasn't had Windows on his PC since 2005
[12:34] <BluesKaj> wifes has a windows pc so I keep abreast of what's happening , being an ols windows guy, I have nothing against windows , just prefer kubuntu/linux now
[12:34] <bhattigurjot> Hi, I am getting this "org.kde.plasma.private.kickoff is not installed" error when I click on the application launcher button on the task bar
[12:34] <bhattigurjot> Just installed the KUbuntu 15.04
[12:35] <BluesKaj> bhattigurjot, make sure you update and upgrade
[12:35] <Fritigern> Sorry, for support with alphas, you should really go to #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <BluesKaj> bhattigurjot, and #ubuntu+1 supports all flavours of 15.04
[12:36] <bhattigurjot> BluesKaj: Already did that.
[12:37] <bhattigurjot> Fritigern: Ok
[12:58] <Fritigern> I am so curious about the Vivid alpha, but at the same time i am scared to move to plasma5. So much could go wrong...
[12:59] <BluesKaj>  Fritigern not recommended for a production pc
[12:59] <Fritigern> I know
[12:59] <BluesKaj> <--home user
[12:59] <Fritigern> But even if vivid were already finalized, i would be scared
[13:01] <BluesKaj> getting some desktop freeezes that logging into and out of the VT/TTY fixes
[13:02] <Fritigern> In the past i have done risky upgrades, including installing first alphas, ran into issues and fixed them. But this one makes me nervous.
[13:03] <soee> Fritigern: im not usre what can be scarry here :)
[13:04] <soee> if you have home on separate partition, of your system gets broken you can always reinstall and hats all :)
[13:04] <Fritigern> That's the thing, i don;t have that.
[13:04] <soee> ;o
[13:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's not my faviourite so far , I'm not a fan of the new plasma 5 "look",  simplistic icons and flat buttons etc
[13:05] <Fritigern> As far as the look goes, it's just a matter of time before more 3d-syle themes become available
[13:06] <soee> Fritigern: i dnt think this happen this year
[13:06] <BluesKaj> soee, where's the fix in the url you posted?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> I see a whole lot of comments etc , bi=ut no patch...
[13:07] <soee> BluesKaj: well there is a link to commit wih the fix, but the whole package has to be rebuld with this fix
[13:07] <soee> BluesKaj: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/plasma-workspace/repository/revisions/116b1d170eb25b957a3c0f3d21b429afc3f88d6a
[13:08] <BluesKaj> oh no not that one ,  the one with no make file
[13:08] <soee> what ?
[15:24] <designbybeck> I have a lot of users across my work IM/facebook/gtalk on pidgin, and when they login/out the notification tray goes crazy showing them all at ones and then I clear in and then it just keeps going when other users come on or off
[15:24] <designbybeck> can I change that setting somewhere?
[15:28] <designbybeck> I do want to see some application notifications just not all those login/offs from pidgin
[15:31] <rberg_> designbybeck: it looks that that setting is in Tools/Plugins/libnotify popups/configure plugin
[15:32] <designbybeck> AAHhh Thank you rberg_ ...didn't think to look in the plugins for anything!!
[15:32] <rberg_> anytime
[15:33] <rberg_> I am a hug fan of reduced notifications.
[15:35] <designbybeck> ;)
[15:35] <designbybeck> and what about the setting to resize with alt+mmb instead of right?
[15:35] <designbybeck> I thought I was in the right place but couldn't seem to change it
[16:51] <pet0> hello friends
[16:51] <pet0> i just installed kubuntu and have triple monitor setup
[16:51] <pet0> when i start the computer all i can see is black screens
[16:51] <pet0> with a pink stripe on the left of each
[16:51] <pet0> can you help me to solve this? now im only using one and it works
[16:56] <r2f6k> \help
[17:03] <r2f6k>  /msg AuthServ@Services.OnlineGamesNet.net COOKIE rafik88 VoKqTXhb5P
[17:03] <r2f6k>  /msg AuthServ@Services.OnlineGamesNet.net COOKIE rafik88 VoKqTXhb5P
[17:06] <r2f6k>   /AuthServ auth R2F6K lalu4eje
[17:22] <Captain_Haddock> pet0: Try 2 first.
[19:53] <boobaa> okay, it looks like today's apt-get upgrade has screwed up something in my $HOME
[19:53] <boobaa> I just checked konsole with a new user and it works fine. where to search for the reason that keeps konsole, muon, etc. from running?
[19:54] <boobaa> (and I got the idea of pasting an strace output of a wannabe konsole session, if it would help - would it help at all for any of you?)
[20:10] <Toni> Bonasera
[21:48] <mokush> can anybody using the vivid alpha tell me, if they found a way to make the spelling underlining work on kf5 apps like kate?
[22:37] <shallwe> hi guys, someone using kmail?
[22:51] <keithzg> shallwe: I don't use it that frequently, but I do have it configured and running on my work desktop.
[23:44] <seth__> hey guys
[23:44] <seth__> I broke my steam after upgrading from the edgers ppa
[23:45] <seth__> any ideas to what I'm doing wrong? It says it can't load the radeonsi_dri.so
[23:46] <soee_> edgers offers radeon drivers ?
[23:47] <seth__> Yeah it's my understanding they are more cutting edge and shouldd give me better performance in dota accourding to a reddit post....
[23:47] <seth__> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[23:47] <soee_> what package did you used ?
[23:49] <seth__> I just hit upgrade and it pulled some new ati packages automatically after adding the ppa. I'm probably missing something xD
[23:50] <soee_> im not familiar with ati drivers as im nvidia user
[23:50] <soee_> maybe ask on #ubuntu
[23:51] <seth__> I see. Oh well I'll keep trying some stuff. If I dont' get it I'll ask there. Cheers
[23:51] <soee_> you can just purge this ppa, and get previous verion of packages
[23:52] <soee_> it is not recommended to use anyway. but well i have been using it for a long time for latest nvidia drivers, and for me they worked nice
[23:53] <seth__> ok yeah I just read that I could purge the ppa on a post. TY going to that first and try again