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[03:28] <Ozzie_0001> Hi.
[03:28] <Ozzie_0001> Can somebody help me: I want to see this flash player streams in vlc, but i cannot find the streams source. The url's are: http://www.rtve.es/directo/canal-24h/  http://noticieros.televisa.com/foro-tv/  http://tv.milenio.com/   Thank you.
[03:28] <holstein> i dont think you are allowed to do that
[03:29] <holstein> vlc wont play flash streams AFAIK
[03:29] <Ozzie_0001> Why?
[03:29] <holstein> if i want/need flash, i use pepperflash, the only current flash for linux
[03:29] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[03:29] <Ozzie_0001> My PC is too slow for flash.
[03:29] <holstein> if i want to play a stream in VLC, i make sure VLC can play the content.. its not allowed to play flash
[03:30] <holstein> Ozzie_0001: i use the pepperflash in chrome on quite old/slow machines..
[03:31] <Ozzie_0001> Oh... I though it can plat it...
[03:31] <holstein> Ozzie_0001: you "thought" what? that vlc had support for flash? ask them.. if you think they do. but, they dont..
[03:32] <holstein> flash supports flash content.. and adobe releases a current version for linux with pepperflash.. you can see the facts, and test whta you have at the link above
[03:33]  * Unit193 uses firefox/xombrero with flash..
[03:33] <holstein> they *may* offer an alternate stream
[03:33] <Ozzie_0001> *thought *play
[03:38] <Ozzie_0001> They do not... Mmmm... What a shame...
[03:39] <holstein> i would just try whatever the content provider suggests..
[03:39] <Unit193> In Firefox, dwhelper can pickup the stream sometimes for you to grab the URL.
[03:39] <holstein> you may be able to ask them for a "lighter" alternative..
[03:40] <holstein> wont hurt to try the URL..
[03:40] <Ozzie_0001> I will. Thank you.
[03:43] <Ozzie_0001> Thanks.
[10:34] <bhad> I have ath9k enabled on lsmod but ifconfig doesn't show my wlan0. How to fix this?
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[14:31] <Glorfindel1> lxde isn't starting up, tty 7 is a blank screen. what command starts lubuntu's DE?
[14:39] <Glorfindel1> anyone?/
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[17:38] <haled> I have ath9k loaded, but it ifconfig doesn't show a network interface for it. How do I fix this?
[17:39] <holstein> !wifi
[17:39] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:39] <haled> holstein, it's a rather specific problem
[17:40] <holstein> i would just start at the beginning.. depending on the device, i wouldnt assume its "good".. i would try and test it with a known supported driver.. that would be one the manufacturer promises support for, or, with a live linux iso that is known to have supported it
[17:40] <haled> it works on windows
[17:40] <holstein> if the device works under those conditions, then, i would know its not "broken" physically, and i could move on
[17:41] <haled> I don't think it has any "official" linux support
[17:41] <holstein> sure, i dont either.. so, its up to you and the community to make it work, if it can
[17:41] <holstein> what i typically do is just throw a bunch of live iso's at hardware.. i will note the kernel versions and modules being used
[17:42] <holstein> typically, with linux, when hardware can work, it'll just work.. when it doesnt just magically work, it can be more of a challenge.. but, its nice to know if it used to work, or ever worked in the past..
[17:42] <wxl> haled: if you want someone to complain at, try linus XD
[17:42] <holstein> i'll use ubuntu iso's for the supported lts releases, and the latest.. as well as, the upcoming
[17:42] <haled> wxl, thanks
[17:43] <holstein> if i can get it working, i'll make a note of the kernel version and other relevant details, and see if i can implement that in the distro i want to use
[17:43] <wxl> honestly, though, holstein is right. if support doesn't exist officially from the manufacturer and the kernel doesn't have it, it's up to the Linux (not Ubuntu or Debian) kernel developers to implement it
[17:43] <wxl> of course you can make a driver yourself but that's probably asking a lot :)
[17:43] <haled> the ath9k driver is in the kernel since 3.0 or so
[17:44] <haled> besides, it's loading
[17:44] <holstein> well, all of linux is completely open, if any manufacturer wants to make it a magically simple process for the end user
[17:44] <holstein> haled: i think you are assuming that the module you are loading supports the hardware
[17:44] <haled> I've been using this driver with this kernel before
[17:44] <haled> err
[17:44] <holstein> haled: sure.. but, its the hardware that is the issue
[17:44] <haled> this device with this driver
[17:44] <holstein> and, the kernel gets rev'd
[17:45] <haled> (with some kernels)
[17:45] <wxl> with what kernels?\
[17:45] <wxl> and for that matter, what distros?
[17:45] <holstein> if you can determine what module is working with what kernel, you can likely figure out how to support it now
[17:45] <holstein> you will find "Regression" bugs..
[17:45] <haled> wxl, it was some lubuntu I believe that I was using
[17:45] <haled> I think it was 14.04
[17:46] <holstein> haled: try them, and see which *precisely* is supporting it..
[17:46] <wxl> then try 14.04 to confirm that
[17:46] <holstein> 14.04 is LTS.. so, you may find that just using it is the "simplest" way to address your issue
[17:46] <haled> good idea, thanks
[17:46] <holstein> or, you may try 15.04, and find that it supports the device "out of the box".. and you can decide what you like to do
[17:47] <holstein> or, look and see what is providing support for your hardware, and implement that into 14.10..
[17:47] <holstein> otherwise, you take the chipset you have, *specifically*, and search.. you dont need to search "lubuntu".. you search ubuntu, or debian, or linux.. you can go upstream to the larger relevant sources
[17:47] <haled> it's not some relic hardware
[17:47] <holstein> haled: im not implying it is
[17:48] <holstein> it *is* not officially supporting linux.. so, its up to you
[17:49] <holstein> i will utilize the stock main ubuntu iso's when testing, so i can use the larger relevant upstream support avenues... for hardware specifics like this
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