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pittiGood morning06:43
willcookegood morning desktoppers07:54
willcookedesrt was right about the trains, but "only" 15 mins delay, but flight is 30mins delay so far - so works out ok07:54
didrocksmorning08:09
willcookehey didrocks08:14
willcookeSo, people knew I wouldn't be around this morning and decided to stay in bed then? ;p08:14
didrockswillcooke: a bunch of slackers! :)08:16
willcooke:D08:16
willcookehow was dinner?08:16
didrocksit was nice, thanks! How was yours?08:17
seb128oh, we can go back to bed?08:18
seb128ggrrreat08:18
willcooke:D08:24
willcookeLounge here is meh.08:24
willcookeInternet is ok, but the coffee is awful08:25
willcooke;)08:25
didrockstime to fallback to alcohol at 9 in the morning it seems :)08:27
willcookeOh - I saw that they have Leffe on draft, just sat there to help yourself.08:28
didrockstsssss!08:29
didrocks*snapped*08:31
Laneyschnappi08:32
willcooketasteful:  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Snappy-the-Friendly-Spitting-Crocodile-Piped-Garden-Pond-Pool-Spit-Statue-/26154803856708:37
didrockswillcooke: I can't decide between offering this to my family and a garden gnome08:39
didrocksETOOMUCHDECISIONSTOBEMADE08:39
didrocksMANY*08:39
willcookeJust get both08:39
didrocksahah08:39
willcookeyou won't regret it08:39
didrocks*they* :p08:39
willcookeok, time to find my gate....08:40
didrockssafe flight!08:40
willcookel8r doodz08:40
willcookesigh08:47
willcookemore delays08:47
willcookeentertain me08:47
willcookebregma, that bug we talked about yesterday, switching vts doesn't help, but killing u-p-s still does, even with the new gfx stack08:48
willcookemlankhorst, ^08:48
bregmawillcooke, that's odd, really odd08:48
willcookeyeah! :)08:48
willcookeAny thoughts on which logs might help?  I'll ask people to gather them08:49
willcookecomment 7 is especially confusing:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1418295/comments/708:50
ubot5Launchpad bug 1418295 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Black screen after resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:50
willcookehow, if the desktop is visible, but not responding, can killing ups help?  As you say, odd.08:51
didrockswillcooke --no-daemon < /usr/sbin/beer-provider08:52
willcooke:D08:52
pittibonjour didrocks, hey willcooke, how are you?08:56
willcookehey pitti!  Another day, another airport08:56
didrocksguten morgen pitti, going well! yourself?08:56
pittididrocks: quite fine, thanks! we had a lovely celebration yesterday08:58
pittiit was nice getting to know some of Annett's colleagues08:58
didrockspitti: excellent!08:58
seb128Laney, bug #1408212 ... gtk .8 available as well :-)08:59
ubot5bug 1408212 in unity (Ubuntu) "Turn on/off the Large Text in Universal Access, it doesn't work immediately" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140821208:59
pittididrocks: nice work on fsck and plymouth! figuring out the "pedestrian" protocol must have been quite annoying08:59
pittibonjour seb128 !08:59
seb128hey pitti, say hello and congrats to Annett from me :-)08:59
pittiseb128: I will, thanks09:00
didrockspitti: it was … "interesting" :)09:00
didrockspitti: thanks! quite happy with the current version, let's see what's going to be the feedback09:00
didrockspitti: yeah, say congrats from me as well :)09:01
willcooketime to go again o/09:02
pittididrocks: btw, it seems 6/9 is missing in your submitted patch series09:09
pittididrocks: missing mail, or just wrong enumeration?09:09
pittididrocks: oh sorry, it's on http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028052.html, I just didn't get it (perhaps spam filter)09:10
seb128pitti, saw my vt9 comment yesterday?09:13
didrockspitti: a bunch of languages in the diff, (po refresh), should be a spam! :)09:13
didrockslangages*09:13
pittiseb128: I did, but there wasn't  too much context -- you mean the graphics freeze and you can't do anything? or vt switching works but the shell is gone?09:14
seb128pitti, I can't vt switch, I see the plytmouth logo with the dots animating (or a blank screen if I desactivate the logo) but ctrl-alt-fn does nothing09:17
pittiseb128: hmm; what you could also do is to enable persistant journal (see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian), boot with "debug", then shutdown, reboot, and put the previous journal somewhere: "sudo journalctl -b -1 > /tmp/journal.txt"09:21
seb128pitti, ok, got mir to screw my vt so I rebooted, it seemed to hand on click schroots unmounting09:37
* didrocks tests with the schroot closed09:38
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didrockspitti: not the schroot for me, still having the same issue after closing the autorunning session09:42
didrocksI guess I'll have to debug anyway, I have the delay reliably09:43
didrocksseems like I will start having time for this :)09:43
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* didrocks reboots with debug09:49
didrockspitti: waow, I don't see any big idle timing…09:55
didrockspitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10088906/09:56
didrocksnot sure about this looping dbus connection10:00
didrocksseems like the first 10s are fine10:00
didrocksand then, sometihng tries to poke10:00
didrocksand eventually the disks umounts10:01
* Trevinho seb128: that's what I meant http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10089093/10:12
Trevinhodesrt: do you like it more now https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744086 ?10:28
ubot5Gnome bug 744086 in .General "configure.ac: Pull gio-unix dependency for all unix builds" [Normal,Unconfirmed]10:28
desrtTrevinho: all gtk pastes must occur on gnome channels10:28
desrt;)10:28
pittididrocks: you mean your vivid hangs on shutdown too? in the same "no input possible" way than seb128's?10:53
didrockspitti: with the debug thingy yeah, here, I used what systemd upstream advised10:54
didrockspitti: 30s to shutdown is long… so clearly something is going on10:54
didrocksI wonder what tries to talk to syslog…10:54
seb128didrocks, pitti, my previous shutdown has that in the log11:29
seb128févr. 06 12:24:11 seb-e6410 systemd-udevd[322]: worker [14991] cleaned up11:29
seb128févr. 06 12:24:33 seb-e6410 systemd-journal[256]: Suppressed 15224 messages from /11:29
seb128févr. 06 12:24:33 seb-e6410 systemd[1]: Got notification message for unit systemd-journald.service11:29
seb128not sure what are the 15k messages suppressed though11:29
seb128I ended up sitting on the power button11:30
pittiseb128: (sorry, busy with IRC/psql security updates); no other failures there? units which don't shut down, etc?12:00
pittiwell, that's really hard to see just from the log; systemctl list-units would be so much easier12:01
pittierr, list-jobs12:01
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seb128pitti, yeah, not sure, I think it's the buggy click schroots12:32
pittidesrt, seb128, didrocks: whoa, Telegram galore!13:16
Trevinhodidrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/100395013:16
ubot5Launchpad bug 1003950 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "launcher does not show minimized update manager while clicked" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:16
didrockspitti: it's all telegrammy on this table!13:17
pittinice!13:17
happyaronhi, anyone know how to handle bugs like LP: #1391024? in main, but no translations on LP.13:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1391024 in Ubuntu Kylin "The prompt of Password Strength Meter hasn't been translated." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139102413:19
desrtpitti: hi :D13:21
desrttelegram just went viral13:21
seb128happyaron, those translations work for me13:26
happyaronseb128: not working for me13:27
happyaronseb128: in theory translations for main packages are in langpack, but the package doesn't have translations in LP13:28
seb128happyaron, let me debug it13:29
seb128happyaron, I can fix it if you want13:29
happyaronplease13:29
happyaronand I'll learn how to fix problems like it, :)13:30
seb128k13:31
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happyaronno change rebuild...14:23
seb128happyaron, yeah :-)14:25
happyaronseb128: means the package hasn't been rebuilt after being prompted into main?14:26
seb128happyaron, no, but the launchpad flag to use translations from the upstream project was set14:26
seb128but there is no upstream project on launchpad14:26
seb128that was still blocking the translations to be imported though14:26
seb128https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/libpwquality/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot14:27
seb128has it now14:27
happyaronseb128: what's the name of the flag?14:27
happyaronis it translation sharing? used to be a translation memory stuff14:28
seb128happyaron, it's on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/libpwquality/+sharing-details14:28
happyaronI see14:28
happyaronthanks seb128 !14:28
seb128yw!14:28
seb128happyaron, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/libpwquality/+pots/libpwquality/zh_CN/+translate14:29
seb128there you go14:29
happyarongot it14:29
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willcookehi all.  that was no fun.15:33
desrtwillcooke: nice trains in brussels, hm?15:37
willcooketrain was late, plane was late getting in, plane was late boarding because of X, then sat on the runway for ages because of Y.  THE PAIN, THE PAIN OF IT ALL15:38
willcookeWhat'd I miss?15:39
desrttelegram is the new black15:39
desrtit sorta went viral around lunchtime15:39
willcookeneat15:41
JamesMulhollandTelegram's pretty sweet, we use it on the design team15:53
JamesMulhollandoutside of work everyone seems to be on Whatsapp, while patently ignoring the Facebook messaging app...15:54
JamesMulhollandwonder if they'll ever close the noose on that since buying out WA15:55
willcookewat?:  http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-02/06/cold-fusion-reactor16:10
willcookethe fun bit at 3h 47m16:12
Laneyhey pitti, are you interested in hearing that cgmanager.service failed for me? or is this known?16:26
Laney(trying systemd on this laptop for the first time)16:26
Laneyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10094286/16:28
om26erLaney, he is probably EOW already.16:30
Laneymaybe16:30
LaneyI don't need a reply straight away. :)16:30
happyaronhey, I wonder how does files under .disk are generated on ISO images?16:33
happyaronok got it16:58
willcookeI'm tired and hungry.  Safe travels17:00
* willcooke -> EOW17:00
Chipacawhy does installing libglib2.0-dev:i386 remove the amd64 versions?17:14
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LaneyChipaca: because the -dev package isn't multiarched23:01
Laneyfor one it contains executables23:02
darkxstLaney, I suspect we would need to update mutter/shell for Gtk 3.1623:29
darkxstLaney, since mutter 3.14 won't support GTK window decorations23:36

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