| mapps | again pi taking ages | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| mapps | installing mysql on ..stopping mysqld' just hanging | 00:07 |
| daftykins | best get a Pi v2.0 | 00:07 |
| mapps | can access the web server but it's also taking ages http://parrots.zapto.org | 00:07 |
| mapps | cant ssh in | 00:07 |
| mapps | yea but the other pi i have is fine? | 00:08 |
| mapps | cant find any suggestions | 00:08 |
| mapps | argh | 00:08 |
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| daftykins | mem usage and logs | 00:16 |
| mapp | hi all | 05:04 |
| daftykins | mornin' | 05:05 |
| mapp | had a guy tell me tonight apple is now windows | 05:05 |
| mapp | as they use intel cpus | 05:05 |
| mapp | and its all microsoft | 05:05 |
| mapp | ...moron | 05:05 |
| daftykins | lmao | 05:13 |
| daftykins | plus that was like, 8 years ago? | 05:13 |
| mapp | ja | 05:14 |
| mapp | why do i have to work | 05:29 |
| mapp | isnt fair | 05:29 |
| daftykins | lol | 05:32 |
| daftykins | that's a bit of a 12 year old comment sir ;D | 05:33 |
| mapp | ;] | 05:37 |
| mapp | a girl wants to go out for a drink with me back in UK..but im not there anymore..and she has 2 kids ..should i avoid? | 05:44 |
| daftykins | hell to the yes | 05:46 |
| daftykins | probably another money borrower eh | 05:46 |
| mapp | i would expect so | 05:47 |
| mapp | and not even that | 05:47 |
| mapp | even if i liked her..do i want 2 kids that aint mine? | 05:47 |
| mapp | and her ex boyfriend around all the time? | 05:47 |
| mapp | i say..no! | 05:47 |
| mapp | but people say im rude and snobby? | 05:47 |
| daftykins | lmao | 05:47 |
| mapp | I'd be embarassed to go to anywhere with my family and say this is my partner with her 2 kids from 2 men | 05:47 |
| daftykins | i would not get involved with a situation like that | 05:48 |
| daftykins | but i'm against kids in general | 05:48 |
| mapp | yea | 05:48 |
| mapp | my dad lives in Knightsbridge..so no single mums;p council wont pay that rent..my uncle was in the MET | 05:48 |
| mapp | all from stable families | 05:48 |
| mapp | same mum/dad no step kids and that stuff | 05:48 |
| mapp | it's all very foreign to me | 05:48 |
| mapp | I grew up in a loving environment ...ideal family (in my opinin) a boy and a girl ..me and my sister and my parents | 05:49 |
| daftykins | sounds good to me | 05:49 |
| mapp | everytime i meet a girl with kids they have SO MANY STORIES | 05:49 |
| mapp | 'my ex beat me' | 05:50 |
| mapp | 'i was raped' | 05:50 |
| mapp | etc | 05:50 |
| mapp | and I'm left just thinking..what to do..do i ignore it and think ok theyre nice and think i can help them | 05:50 |
| mapp | or the normal..and think they;d bring me a lot of hassle? | 05:50 |
| mapp | and i think really its the 2nd? | 05:50 |
| daftykins | deffo | 05:51 |
| daftykins | i'm sure there are some hard done by, but there are plenty of fish in the sea | 05:51 |
| mapp | my dad always says 'you never know what happened the guy might've walked out on them' | 05:51 |
| mapp | and while thats true | 05:51 |
| mapp | like..the dad will somehow be in the scene ..they aren;t my kids | 05:52 |
| mapp | and these people are always known to the police and social services (something i'd rather not be) | 05:52 |
| daftykins | i don't even think i can be bothered to learn someone news story if they don't even have kids :) | 05:54 |
| daftykins | sadly got given the heave-ho by a childhood sweetheart of 15 years recently | 05:54 |
| mapp | what do you mean learn someone news story? | 05:55 |
| daftykins | as in meeting someone new | 05:55 |
| daftykins | not sure i cba with that a lot of the time :D | 05:56 |
| mapp | aha | 05:56 |
| daftykins | mapp: check out my nasty shingles ;D | 06:03 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyenw4qtihkmlk9/shingles6.jpg?dl=0 | 06:03 |
| daftykins | nearly cleared up now 0o | 06:03 |
| daftykins | mornin' | 06:10 |
| mapp | morning | 06:18 |
| mapp | will do in sec daftykins | 06:18 |
| knightwise | morning peeps | 06:19 |
| daftykins | o/ | 06:19 |
| mapp | morning Knightmare | 06:20 |
| mapp | knightwise | 06:20 |
| mapp | :) | 06:20 |
| knightwise | how are you guys doing today :) | 06:21 |
| mapp | not bad..sleep for me in an hr or so:D | 06:21 |
| mapp | 726am for me | 06:22 |
| mapp | in euro time:) | 06:22 |
| daftykins | not bad ty sir | 06:24 |
| knightwise | same here | 06:33 |
| knightwise | mapp: Where you at? | 06:33 |
| mapp | I'm in Gibraltar mate | 06:41 |
| knightwise | Belgium :) | 07:11 |
| knightwise | There , episode with fossdem interviews all done and uploaded | 07:11 |
| knightwise | next up : Record a new HPR episode | 07:11 |
| mapp | knightwise are you english? | 07:12 |
| knightwise | Nope :) I'm as Belgian as they come .. why ? | 07:13 |
| mapp | aha | 07:13 |
| mapp | just wondered | 07:14 |
| mapp | well | 07:14 |
| mapp | ypou're in a -uk chan:P | 07:14 |
| mapp | so i assumed maybe english heh | 07:14 |
| mapp | ive been to Belgium many years ago | 07:14 |
| mapp | also been to Holland..mention as you both speak the dutch:D | 07:14 |
| knightwise | I have more English/us/uk friends on line then belgian ones. I do an english - speaking podcast , read english books etc | 07:14 |
| mapp | aha | 07:15 |
| knightwise | I speak dutch, french, german and english | 07:15 |
| mapp | nice | 07:15 |
| mapp | french sucks:D | 07:15 |
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| balor | It's not specifically mentioned in the article, but this is the kind of thing that Ubuntu helps happen in Eastbourne http://bit.ly/1Km9zzz We coudn't do it without open-source. | 08:24 |
| bashrc | morning | 08:35 |
| awilkins | Hello | 08:35 |
| bashrc | on the article, my experience from the last few years is that there isn't necessarily an IT skills shortage, but there is a problem with IT recruitment practices | 08:37 |
| bashrc | i.e. recruiters having unrealistic expectations, strange HR pre-screening, etc | 08:38 |
| balor | bashrc, I agree, and more. | 08:46 |
| balor | bashrc, companies need to understand that a good Java programmer can be a decent .Net programmer if you give them a month (and vice-versa). | 08:46 |
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| knightwise | has any of you ever tried using Mutt with multiple Gmail accounts ? | 09:46 |
| bashrc | I use mutt, but not with gmail | 09:46 |
| knightwise | hmm.. its tricky to get multiple accounts working | 09:47 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Doodle Day! :-D | 10:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's a friday, that's good enough for most | 10:02 |
| JamesTait | zmoylan-pi, it's also Working Naked Day. | 10:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah, have you looked at your co workers lately? :-) | 10:04 |
| JamesTait | Not in person since December... but on hangouts, weekly at least. ;) | 10:04 |
| JamesTait | Seeing those in the southern hemisphere wearing tshirts and strappy tops while my teeth are chattering - not sure that has quite the morale-boosting qualities intended. :-P | 10:06 |
| Seeker` | JamesTait: yeah, but when they've got their dull overcast winter weather, they'll get to see your dull overcast summer weather! Think how jealous you'll be! | 10:25 |
| Seeker` | *they'll be! | 10:25 |
| * JamesTait chuckles at Seeker` | 10:27 | |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:28 |
| bashrc | morning | 10:30 |
| brobostigon | morning bashrc | 10:30 |
| bashrc | a bit of fun: https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term | 10:30 |
| NET||abuse | mornin all. | 10:33 |
| NET||abuse | just finished the hardware reconfiguration of the microserver, have the 16TB's of storage ready to configure, thinking of using btrfs, but not sure | 10:33 |
| NET||abuse | popey: did you flash your n40L 's bios to get higher speeds on the optical bay sata interface? | 10:33 |
| popey | no | 10:33 |
| popey | but I know people who have | 10:33 |
| NET||abuse | yeh, was debating if i need to, but, i have a 1TB wd green as my system disk (it's a bit big but it's what i had :) ) | 10:34 |
| popey | MORNING! (btw) | 10:34 |
| NET||abuse | i'm not sure if i need the performance on that disk, | 10:34 |
| popey | i have sata as my system disk, attached to internal ssd | 10:34 |
| popey | er, sata | 10:34 |
| NET||abuse | so reverse that last sentence? You have ssd as system disk? attached to internal sata? | 10:35 |
| popey | yes | 10:35 |
| NET||abuse | yeh, well, that interface will be running at a pretty slow ide speed rather than full ahci mode? | 10:35 |
| NET||abuse | so if you were looking for read performance from the ssd, not sure you're getting any | 10:35 |
| NET||abuse | but yeh, it's the system disk, so not sure we need any real high performance there. | 10:37 |
| NET||abuse | i'll leave it | 10:37 |
| NET||abuse | might lengthen boot time a bit, but how often do you do that. | 10:38 |
| popey | i try not to boot it too often | 10:40 |
| diddledan | morning | 10:45 |
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| knightwise | yoyo | 10:49 |
| diddledan | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31164451 | 10:56 |
| diddledan | gchq was breaking the law. who knew? | 10:56 |
| diddledan | the guardian has more info: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/06/gchq-mass-internet-surveillance-unlawful-court-nsa | 11:04 |
| knightwise | oH realy ? | 11:06 |
| knightwise | its not like the havent been doing it ever since WW1 | 11:07 |
| diddledan | indeed | 11:07 |
| diddledan | I saw a good youtube video on the history of the nsa a week or so ago. explained that it was set up essentially to retain the powers that were provided during wartime under censorship law | 11:08 |
| diddledan | my youtube history suggests it's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9txt1TGt8 | 11:14 |
| DJones | Heh, poundland buying 99p stores, wonder if they'll get the 1p change | 11:52 |
| diddledan | DJones, that's worrying - it means that everything in the 99p stores will go up by 1% | 11:53 |
| DJones | Could well do | 11:54 |
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| moreati | diddledan: they'll add a special offer, buy 99 get 1 free | 12:31 |
| NET||abuse | ok, i'm thinking of using the native btrfs raid setup for my 4 disk array, but the internet says btrfs raid5 support is experimental | 13:14 |
| NET||abuse | is there any major reason to use mdadm to raid under btrfs ? and just do a stripe then on top of the mdadm volume? | 13:14 |
| diddledan | btrfs stripe on-top of an mdadm won't do anything unless you have multiple mdadm volumes | 13:21 |
| diddledan | mdraid** | 13:22 |
| diddledan | stripe requires at least two block devices | 13:22 |
| diddledan | you should either use mdraid OR btrfs-native raid NOT both | 13:23 |
| NET||abuse | ahh ,well, what i mean is, mdraid 5 on 4 disks, and then btrfs, well if i have raid then why use btrfs? | 13:25 |
| diddledan | btrfs adds more than just raid | 13:26 |
| NET||abuse | would you bother with mdraid? Or just use native btrfs-raid setup? | 13:27 |
| NET||abuse | this i sjust for my home server, so its' partly just an effort to experiment. | 13:28 |
| NET||abuse | but also if i do a setup, i dont know when i'll be able to take the content offthe array again. | 13:28 |
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| mapp | arghhhh still cant make this pi any quicker | 16:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | attach rockets... | 16:34 |
| diddledan | mapp, are you sure it can do so? | 16:36 |
| mapp | ;] | 16:37 |
| diddledan | you could try liquid nitrogen and extreme overclocking it | 16:38 |
| diddledan | but as with most processors there is a limit to how fast it can go. I've yet to see a computer with unlimited procesing capability | 16:39 |
| diddledan | I suppose the question is "why do you want it to go quicker?" | 16:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | someone got a z80 up to ludicrous speeds using frozen vodka as heat sink | 16:41 |
| diddledan | err | 16:41 |
| diddledan | methinks liquid nitrogen would do a better job :-p | 16:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | not as easy to get hands on | 16:42 |
| diddledan | I'm not sure you're supposed to put your hand in it | 16:42 |
| shauno | eh, sounds about right to me. vodka coolant = potato engineering | 16:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | potatos powering it, potatos cooling it | 16:45 |
| diddledan | shauno, you're irish | 16:45 |
| shauno | -_- | 16:45 |
| daftykins | lol | 16:55 |
| diddledan | so the oo! buntu! phone has been announced | 16:58 |
| diddledan | http://go.bwlh.at/1ujTarg | 16:58 |
| === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U | ||
| daftykins | just wait for the swathes of great unwashed descending upon #ubuntu - only to find that it's off topic in there. | 16:59 |
| daftykins | and allegedly nobody in #ubuntu-phone replies | 17:00 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:00 |
| daftykins | er #ubuntu-touch i mean | 17:00 |
| diddledan | then they'll end up here | 17:00 |
| diddledan | speaking broken engrish expecting native-language support :-p | 17:00 |
| diddledan | ok, willcooke, if you insist | 17:01 |
| * diddledan does his hobbies | 17:01 | |
| diddledan | in related musing, how about them current affairs, eh? | 17:01 |
| daftykins | that's ok, they only go for popey ;) | 17:01 |
| diddledan | lol | 17:02 |
| daftykins | oh, like how 'bout that $sports_team? | 17:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | in further news there will be weather | 17:02 |
| diddledan | yeah, that sports team are awesome. I quite like the sports person | 17:02 |
| diddledan | lead* | 17:03 |
| daftykins | so blustery here :( | 17:04 |
| daftykins | howling winds | 17:04 |
| diddledan | daftykins, you've got weather? | 17:04 |
| daftykins | i have! | 17:04 |
| diddledan | wow | 17:04 |
| diddledan | nice | 17:04 |
| daftykins | in spades, sir | 17:04 |
| diddledan | I like weather | 17:04 |
| diddledan | weather is fun | 17:04 |
| diddledan | unless you're outside | 17:05 |
| shauno | the weather here is entirely average. it's not cold, it's not warm. not windy, not still. somewhere between light grey and dark grey. | 17:05 |
| daftykins | no truer word was on this day spoken | 17:05 |
| daftykins | oh hey guys how about this for a technological achievement | 17:05 |
| daftykins | my home insurance company is 2 doors up from me | 17:06 |
| shauno | with gaps I hope? | 17:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm in dublin, we have rain, wind, sun, hail, sleet, fog today and then the weather station blew up | 17:06 |
| daftykins | amusingly their policy renewal letter goes from town to the centre of the island where the post office HQ is, to come back out to me right beside | 17:06 |
| shauno | eg, if you burn down, they don't? | 17:06 |
| daftykins | aaaand i just paid my bill online ;D | 17:06 |
| daftykins | shauno: mmm, my neighbour would get it, but i think they'd survive yeah | 17:06 |
| shauno | :) | 17:07 |
| shauno | I'd probably do it online too. better record-keeping. plus I don't need pants online. | 17:07 |
| diddledan | you mean there's the possibility of IRL interaction?! | 17:08 |
| diddledan | that's scary | 17:08 |
| daftykins | i was totally going to go in, but then i saw that i needed to shave and it was already half 4 | 17:08 |
| diddledan | daftykins, shaving takes over an hour? | 17:08 |
| daftykins | there was more besides :) | 17:08 |
| diddledan | you must be seriously hairly | 17:08 |
| diddledan | --l | 17:08 |
| daftykins | haha nah, i'm very under developed in the facial hair department | 17:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | he's 1/4 hungarian? | 17:09 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, like granville? | 17:09 |
| daftykins | gr-gr-gr-granville | 17:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | twas a line in scrubs | 17:09 |
| diddledan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_%28Open_All_Hours%29 | 17:09 |
| diddledan | :-D | 17:09 |
| shauno | does any of this make sense to anyone else? | 17:10 |
| daftykins | i'm kinda smiling and nodding right now | 17:10 |
| daftykins | gah, 5pm - death of the many retail options that surround me | 17:10 |
| daftykins | i think i've run out of cereal :P | 17:11 |
| shauno | well, good news, it's not breakfast time :) | 17:12 |
| daftykins | bad news, on my schedule it is :( | 17:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | unless you work night shift | 17:12 |
| diddledan | eh? "islamic state claim us female hostage killed in a coalition air strike in syria" | 17:14 |
| diddledan | surely they'd rather take the credit themselves, no? | 17:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | people would want to see gruesome video... | 17:14 |
| diddledan | like "we killed her, but we're gonna blame you" | 17:14 |
| * daftykins always does | 17:14 | |
| daftykins | i've always had such a morbid curiosity | 17:15 |
| diddledan | I avoid them | 17:15 |
| daftykins | i don't think seeing things on screen is anything like the reality though | 17:15 |
| shauno | it probably works in their favour to discredit coalition actions | 17:15 |
| diddledan | I don't mind it in movies but when I know it's actual harm I have issues | 17:15 |
| diddledan | although, technically I have "issues" anyway | 17:16 |
| daftykins | really?! | 17:16 |
| shauno | quelle surprise! | 17:17 |
| * daftykins gives shauno's translator a spot of percussive maintenance | 17:17 | |
| diddledan | why can I not read french without using a french accent? | 17:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | there are famous pictures from vietnam with a prisoner been shot or a monk self immolating that are readily available. on the one hand it's someone dying but censorship doesn't seem right either | 17:18 |
| diddledan | oh, I agree censorship is bad | 17:18 |
| diddledan | it's up to the individual as to whether they want to see it or not | 17:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | but do you want a 10yo clicking on a link to that? | 17:19 |
| shauno | I think there's a huge leap from that, to snuff propoganda | 17:19 |
| diddledan | or the individual's parents if under age | 17:19 |
| diddledan | is snuff a real thing then? I always figured it was invented | 17:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was the moral crusade of the 80s when vcrs became common | 17:20 |
| daftykins | does seem a bit weird | 17:20 |
| diddledan | like "wanna sex me? I'm gonna kill you, is that ok?" | 17:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | i don't remember any convictions from that time. reckon they would have been huge if they did happen | 17:21 |
| shauno | I just mean there's quite some difference between documentary evidence, and propoganda. the idea that there's an audience waiting for their next "PR stunt" is quite disgusting | 17:21 |
| diddledan | indeed | 17:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | jackass did well for a few seasons... | 17:22 |
| diddledan | jackass is still going, no? wasn't "bad grandpa" one of theirs | 17:22 |
| daftykins | yip | 17:23 |
| daftykins | silly won't die | 17:23 |
| diddledan | it completely didn't appeal to me | 17:23 |
| diddledan | bashrc, damn that peer | 17:24 |
| diddledan | bashrc, damn that peer | 17:24 |
| diddledan | too quick :-p | 17:24 |
| diddledan | why do peers insist on reseting connections so often? | 17:24 |
| daftykins | one day we'll get that guy | 17:24 |
| daftykins | /whois peer | 17:25 |
| diddledan | non existant | 17:25 |
| diddledan | nickserv sais they were last seen 38 weeks ago | 17:26 |
| diddledan | says* | 17:26 |
| diddledan | although their alter-ego is online now | 17:27 |
| diddledan | spb | 17:28 |
| diddledan | that's their username | 17:28 |
| daftykins | o0 | 17:28 |
| diddledan | /nickserv info peer | 17:28 |
| diddledan | :-p | 17:28 |
| daftykins | it would be quite amusing to be 'peer' just to see how much abuse you get in a given week | 17:28 |
| diddledan | teehee | 17:28 |
| diddledan | especially if you hang-out in the freenode channel | 17:29 |
| shauno | that's like saying it'd be fun to be kevin costner :/ | 17:29 |
| diddledan | shauno, wow, that's harsh, man, harsh | 17:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | and you'd never be allowed buy a hamster... | 17:29 |
| * daftykins doesn't get it | 17:30 | |
| zmoylan-pi | don't look it up | 17:30 |
| daftykins | is there a connection between hamsters and kevin costner? | 17:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | an internet urban legend. completely untrue | 17:30 |
| daftykins | so shall us four get a table at the next ubuntu event and demonstrate our amazingly on-topic values? :D | 17:31 |
| diddledan | teehee | 17:31 |
| diddledan | I vote we bring-along a rent-a-hamster | 17:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | look for the table discussing who's the best star trek captain... :-) | 17:32 |
| diddledan | oh god | 17:32 |
| diddledan | that's so obviously Jonathan Archer | 17:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | the best klingon captain just to be niche | 17:33 |
| daftykins | oof | 17:33 |
| diddledan | and T'Pol the best first officer | 17:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | only because of the decontamination scences | 17:33 |
| diddledan | heck yeah | 17:33 |
| daftykins | i'm still working on TOS with a friend, we're half way into what he calls 'the turd season' atm | 17:34 |
| diddledan | lol | 17:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | don't forget star trek animated after that. voices of original tos crew | 17:34 |
| diddledan | next gen kinda lost me with the whole Q stuff | 17:34 |
| diddledan | if not for Q the series woulda been fine | 17:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | i loved q. q was special. he toyed with humans for his own amusment but did ultimately help us | 17:35 |
| diddledan | I enjoyed his part but I didn't think it really fitted with the rest of the storyline | 17:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | just tng has dated | 17:35 |
| shauno | I did like Q. he was basically the universe's bofh. | 17:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | the whole we can talk out all our problems picard | 17:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | here deal with a god | 17:36 |
| diddledan | janeway did away with that by shooting everything | 17:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | janeway did show the borg not to mess with humans | 17:36 |
| diddledan | indeed | 17:36 |
| diddledan | I liked the borg-vs-voyager story | 17:36 |
| daftykins | Q brought along the seemingly endless court scenes, omw i could've done without those | 17:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | seven was fun. trying to be human and never quite fitting in | 17:37 |
| shauno | eh, they weren't as bad as "holodeck episodes" | 17:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | but that made a lot more sense in the last episode of the tng | 17:37 |
| daftykins | shauno: how to write a holodeck episode: 1) safety protocols are off 2) go nuts! | 17:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | humans are always been judged by the q. ie. keeping you on your toes | 17:38 |
| shauno | I just skipped most of them :/ especially when Voyager went to Mayo .. | 17:38 |
| diddledan | black-and-white holodeck ftw | 17:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | professor moriarity on the holodeck creating a ship in the bottle was good | 17:38 |
| diddledan | lol. modern download speeds scare me - I would hate to have MartijnVdS' connection | 17:39 |
| diddledan | 500ish KByte per second ftw | 17:40 |
| * daftykins sees diddledan screeching at progress bars | 17:40 | |
| * zmoylan-pi remembers 300baud modems... | 17:40 | |
| daftykins | "what's that sound?" - "just dan downloading again" | 17:40 |
| diddledan | daftykins, I need to recreate the modem noise | 17:40 |
| shauno | "everybody look what's going down" | 17:41 |
| daftykins | shauno: Voyager? Mayo? | 17:41 |
| shauno | you gave up before that? | 17:41 |
| daftykins | didn't realise they had a condiment surplus episode | 17:41 |
| daftykins | i've actually not done a marathon of Voyager | 17:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | booooooo boooooooop, boooooooooooooooooooo booooop, boooblelelelelelelelele /favourite zx spectrum game... | 17:41 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, that's dialup, too | 17:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | very different sound. | 17:42 |
| diddledan | lol | 17:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | dial up is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, eeeeeeeee,eeeeeee, eeeeeeeeeeeeepppppp | 17:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i often had to listen to the connections to work out why they weren't talking to each other... :-) | 17:43 |
| daftykins | no that's Celine Dion | 17:43 |
| diddledan | dear god man | 17:43 |
| diddledan | that's evil | 17:43 |
| diddledan | daftykins, zmoylan-pi had to listen to celine dion to work out why they weren't talking to each other?! | 17:44 |
| daftykins | horrible, horrible job :( | 17:44 |
| * diddledan puts titanic theme on spotify | 17:44 | |
| shauno | kinda obligatory at this point, http://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html | 17:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was either that or install windows 95 from floppies | 17:44 |
| shauno | heh, I've done that! but only once | 17:45 |
| shauno | (and it's not as bad as it sounds. it's a lot less disks than you'd expect) | 17:46 |
| diddledan | shauno, I wonder if that phone number still exists? | 17:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | i did it twice. and then i made it my lifes mission to learn how to install a cd rom on every computer known to humankind | 17:46 |
| diddledan | CDROMs running of the soundcard were evil | 17:46 |
| diddledan | off* | 17:47 |
| diddledan | luckily I missed those mostly | 17:47 |
| daftykins | from what i understand this still happens on xDSL right, we just don't hear it since the tech uses inaudible tones typically? | 17:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | running them off weird propietary parallel ports wasn't fun either but if that was the only way to not have to swap floppies... | 17:47 |
| daftykins | the 25 floppies we had for some early office version were pretty painful | 17:48 |
| diddledan | and. soundcards pre Plug-n-Play with jumper switches to select IRQs | 17:48 |
| daftykins | one in the set required you to partially hold the eject button as it read, that was the only way it worked 0o | 17:48 |
| * daftykins bows to the APIC | 17:48 | |
| diddledan | Asia Pacific Internet Coalition ftw | 17:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | my 486 had extra serial cards, parallel, modem, scanner, network AND soundcard inside it. when you unscrewed the lid it would pop off. my boss looked inside once when in a hurry and just said 'i'll let zmoylan-pi do it monday' | 17:49 |
| diddledan | I like how he used your handle :-p | 17:50 |
| daftykins | XD | 17:50 |
| diddledan | </troll> | 17:50 |
| daftykins | yeah that would've been an odd interview | 17:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | the trick was to share the dma of the devices that you would never use at the same time. soundcard and parallel and scanner | 17:50 |
| shauno | who in their right mind would use an internal modem?! | 17:50 |
| daftykins | XD | 17:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | and do a cold boot after using one of them | 17:50 |
| daftykins | i loved my little Lasat Safire | 17:50 |
| diddledan | internal modems are mostly winmodems IIRC? | 17:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | they were ast pcs. they used the worst uart chip known to human kind which made speeds over 19200 impossible | 17:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | they were internal usr sportster modems. really solid modems | 17:51 |
| daftykins | http://cache.osta.ee/iv2/auctions/1_1_19653645.jpg | 17:52 |
| daftykins | i had the model on the right, but 56k | 17:52 |
| diddledan | I've still got a zoom 56k modem somewhere in here | 17:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | oooh, had a zoom. good modem but not as good as the usr's | 17:52 |
| shauno | I honestly can't remember what I had. I just asked for the cheapest modem they had that used a serial cable | 17:53 |
| daftykins | for months on our Pentium 1 'dan' PC, we only had the 9 pin serial cable so we had to pick between modem or mouse | 17:53 |
| daftykins | eventually the old man brought home a 25 to 9 pin converter | 17:54 |
| shauno | that'd be terrible. no null-modem Doom games?! | 17:54 |
| daftykins | well, said adapter enabled that too :> | 17:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | we had pcs connected via novell network for doom | 17:55 |
| shauno | well aren't you fancy (/old) | 17:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | used to play in the office 3 against me. i still won | 17:55 |
| diddledan | I played doom on a 10Mbit/s ethernet hub | 17:55 |
| daftykins | ;] | 17:55 |
| diddledan | (cat5!) | 17:55 |
| daftykins | :o | 17:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | we were on coax | 17:56 |
| daftykins | fancy pants | 17:56 |
| daftykins | yeah i had coax at home too :( | 17:56 |
| daftykins | with the Arnie terminators | 17:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | coax gave us little grief. we were just careful i guess | 17:56 |
| daftykins | i think i was just too young to understand networking at the time | 17:56 |
| diddledan | both coax and hub would have suffered the same issue with collision | 17:56 |
| daftykins | i don't even know what would've provided the IP addressing, i don't recall ever entering any for the first couple of years | 17:57 |
| diddledan | my hub had a little led to show collisions | 17:57 |
| diddledan | it flashed a LOT | 17:57 |
| daftykins | i remember those yeah :D | 17:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | though my favourite 'networked' game was f29 retaliator. connect 2 pcs with laplink cable for 2 players to play against each other | 17:57 |
| shauno | we used to play a combat sim too. it was f-something, but I think Raptor? | 17:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | i used to humilate my bosses on that game. shooting them down with missiles that wouldn't lock onto their aircraft. | 17:58 |
| daftykins | f-22? | 17:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | f29 retaliator is the one | 17:58 |
| daftykins | why no lock on? | 17:58 |
| shauno | yup, 22 it is, http://www.mobygames.com/game/f-22-raptor | 17:59 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 17:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | then his on board computer would warn him. whereas a really slow air to ground missile would barely crawl towards them before blowing them out of the sky. much more difficult. much more fun | 18:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwJmlWdmP2M f29 | 18:01 |
| shauno | that was quite fun for multiplayer. mostly because we played at a friends house, with the PCs in two different rooms. so you'd be hurling expletives at each other across the house | 18:01 |
| shauno | had a stealth bomber one on the amiga too, but that didn't age well, at all | 18:02 |
| shauno | in unrelated news, my Pi still hasn't arrived :( I was really hoping it'd make it before the weekend | 18:03 |
| daftykins | v2? | 18:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's out there, lonely and os-less | 18:03 |
| shauno | yeah | 18:03 |
| diddledan | mine came today | 18:04 |
| shauno | it seems post to ireland still involves 7 weeks at sea | 18:05 |
| diddledan | shauno, it must be coming from britain, then? | 18:05 |
| shauno | I hope so | 18:06 |
| daftykins | the Ireland post ship must be captain'd by that no legs guy from Blackadder | 18:06 |
| daftykins | "ye have a woman's purse!" | 18:06 |
| daftykins | +m'lord | 18:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | 5 working days gets from most of uk mainland to dublin or vice versa | 18:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | if you live outside the pale however... | 18:07 |
| shauno | yeah. I don't hate myself to live in dublin. I'm off in the wilds somewhere | 18:07 |
| diddledan | don't forget shauno 's address doesn't exist | 18:07 |
| daftykins | ^ | 18:08 |
| diddledan | or was that your place of work? | 18:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | well places in ireland don't need an address. it's more of a challenge for the postmen that way | 18:08 |
| shauno | it exists sometimes :) that one that was addressed to Cork got here | 18:08 |
| diddledan | o_O | 18:08 |
| diddledan | well it would | 18:08 |
| shauno | it's just not in whatever database Tesco use :/ | 18:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | ah well sassenachs like tescos wouldn't understand | 18:09 |
| diddledan | who was it mentioned gpg earlier? http://go.bwlh.at/1ukaQmM | 18:09 |
| diddledan | that's a bad link | 18:10 |
| diddledan | linux.com is evil aggregator | 18:10 |
| diddledan | try this one: http://go.bwlh.at/1ukb8di | 18:10 |
| shauno | I still think that's all a bit weird | 18:11 |
| daftykins | yay for a result \o/ | 18:11 |
| diddledan | I guess the guy can go on holiday now? | 18:12 |
| diddledan | maybe buy a new car? | 18:12 |
| diddledan | and some nice jewellery | 18:12 |
| daftykins | don't be silly, nobody misappropriates funds! | 18:13 |
| diddledan | really? | 18:13 |
| diddledan | how does italy be italy then? | 18:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | he's german, he'd turn him self in afterwards if he did | 18:13 |
| shauno | they can't help it, proximity to Greece | 18:13 |
| * daftykins shivers | 18:16 | |
| diddledan | http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/thehod007/StarTrek.gif | 18:34 |
| diddledan | funny | 18:34 |
| daftykins | they really should've gone with matte screens | 18:42 |
| shauno | I like glossy screens :( | 18:43 |
| daftykins | just joking at how it's used to show the actor :D | 18:43 |
| shauno | exactly. how else would I know when it's time to shave? | 18:44 |
| diddledan | shauno, it's never that time | 18:46 |
| shauno | oh it is. I don't grow man-beards. I grow teenager-beards. plural. 3 disconnected teenager-beards. | 18:46 |
| daftykins | ;] | 18:47 |
| daftykins | pics! | 18:47 |
| shauno | lolno | 18:47 |
| daftykins | don't make me link you to more shingles snaps... | 18:48 |
| daftykins | i'll do it! | 18:48 |
| shauno | I know you will. But I'm under no obligation to click :) | 18:48 |
| daftykins | :> | 18:48 |
| diddledan | yeah, he'll label it as something you do want to click tho | 18:51 |
| diddledan | i.e. not shingles-omg-evil.jpg | 18:51 |
| diddledan | more like l00k-bewbies.jpg | 18:52 |
| diddledan | speaking of which, why do ebay spammers think that putting "l00k" on their listing will make you click on it? | 18:52 |
| shauno | newb. its l@@k! | 18:53 |
| diddledan | yeah, that too | 18:53 |
| daftykins | XD | 18:54 |
| diddledan | I suppose they use @ because that makes it look like eyes | 18:54 |
| diddledan | bashrc, quit quitting! | 18:55 |
| daftykins | these dialup impressionists are rather tiresome | 18:55 |
| diddledan | I just don't get why people don't leave their connection on 24/7 | 18:55 |
| bashrc | heh | 18:55 |
| diddledan | bouncers or irssi-proxy-like things are great | 18:56 |
| bashrc | I think the internet connection at work was dodgy | 18:56 |
| shauno | reminds me, o2 broke my dongle :( no internets at work :( | 19:06 |
| diddledan | I hate breaking my dongle - it's painful | 19:07 |
| daftykins | shauno: O2 broke it? 0o | 19:07 |
| daftykins | diddledan: don't worry, you don't use it :) | 19:08 |
| diddledan | true | 19:08 |
| shauno | yeah. they changed my contract, and now it won't connect. I called them, and they told me to go get a new sim card | 19:08 |
| shauno | just a bit grrr. if they'd told me they were going to break my internets, I would have told them to leave it alone | 19:09 |
| daftykins | how rude | 19:09 |
| daftykins | ugh this wind is making my uninsulated roofspace bedroom super cold | 19:09 |
| daftykins | -1 deg C windchill! | 19:09 |
| shauno | alas poor Chris, I barely knew you | 19:09 |
| diddledan | wtf? | 19:10 |
| daftykins | ZOMBIE! | 19:10 |
| diddledan | owner died?! | 19:10 |
| daftykins | bit extreme isn't it | 19:10 |
| diddledan | I like how there's a number for such an instance | 19:10 |
| daftykins | i wonder what 129 and 131 are | 19:11 |
| diddledan | 131 is armageddon? | 19:11 |
| shauno | 131 is E_NONEXTKIN | 19:11 |
| shauno | I swear these updates are getting bigger. 1.3GB for a point release? | 19:12 |
| diddledan | what you updating? | 19:12 |
| shauno | osx, again | 19:12 |
| diddledan | 10.10.2? | 19:13 |
| shauno | 10.10.3. yay. | 19:13 |
| diddledan | aah 3 | 19:13 |
| diddledan | I only got that today under non-disclosure? | 19:13 |
| diddledan | i.e. I'm not allowed to tell you what's in it - I don't think it prevents me telling you that I got it | 19:13 |
| shauno | sure you are :) | 19:15 |
| shauno | you don't actually read the agreements, do you :) | 19:17 |
| diddledan | lol, well, no I don't | 19:17 |
| diddledan | which begs the question as to how legally binding they are if I haven't read it | 19:18 |
| shauno | Information that otherwise would be deemed Confidential Information but (a) is generally and legitimately available to the public through no fault or breach of yours [b,c,d,e] will not be considered Confidential Information under this Agreement | 19:18 |
| shauno | once it's on teh internuts, it's no longer your problem :) | 19:19 |
| diddledan | hmm, so if I let slip in an anonymous post then I can attribute a non-anonymous post? | 19:19 |
| shauno | luckily there's enough sites salivating over apple's every nose twitch, I've never had to consider that | 19:20 |
| shauno | hm, I may have to purchase fire tonight | 19:27 |
| diddledan | o_O | 19:31 |
| diddledan | how does one purchase fire? | 19:33 |
| shauno | in the shop :) | 19:42 |
| diddledan | really? http://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/06/oral-b-pro-smart-toothbrush-review/ | 20:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's the absolute tooth | 20:46 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, I think that comment received a brush-off | 21:03 |
| shauno | lol what the | 21:04 |
| shauno | they seem to be missing the most important feature. cranky the music up because I can't hear it when the damned thing is vibrating my skull | 21:05 |
| diddledan | http://www.macrumors.com/2015/01/28/marissa-mayer-safari-yahoo/ <-- I thought yahoo was just a front-end to bing | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | they keep switching | 21:10 |
| shauno | I'm pretty sure they can boil that down to "yahoo would love it if anyone still used it" | 21:10 |
| shauno | they're one of those companies, like AOL, where you just have to stare at them, and wonder how on earth they still exist | 21:11 |
| diddledan | lol | 21:12 |
| diddledan | yahoo are propped-up entirely by flickr | 21:12 |
| diddledan | and even that leg is a bit wonky these days | 21:12 |
| shauno | it is. especially now that they break your account if you don't login enough | 21:15 |
| diddledan | oh? | 21:15 |
| diddledan | I've not logged-in in years so I wonder what they've done to me | 21:17 |
| shauno | I think it's 6 months, they'll expire your account for inactivity | 21:17 |
| diddledan | do they delete your photos? | 21:17 |
| shauno | I don't believe so | 21:18 |
| shauno | I was reading about someone who was annoyed because he couldn't login to download his own | 21:18 |
| shauno | so I assume | 21:18 |
| shauno | (lots of assume here, flickr is my only exposure to yahoo. because it's 2015) | 21:19 |
| diddledan | I still can't get kodi into my head instead of xbmc | 22:04 |
| shauno | then symlink it and move on with life :) | 22:05 |
| diddledan | unfortunately my brain doesn't support symlinks | 22:06 |
| diddledan | it's got an old-school filesystem | 22:06 |
| shauno | I believe there's a fix for that | 22:08 |
| shauno | it probably involves a fine thread, and railroad ties | 22:08 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| m0nkey_ | Today is one of them days I'm so happy I'm not putting up with the family drama back in England. | 23:03 |
| mapp | the americans is a pretty good series | 23:12 |
| mapp | :) | 23:12 |
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