| Kilos | good morning za peeps | 04:28 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi user79 welcome to ubuntu-za | 04:29 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 04:29 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 04:43 |
| Tonberry | hi | 04:43 |
| highvoltage | superfly: congratulations on the Ubuntu membership! | 05:16 |
| Kilos | lo highvoltage | 05:16 |
| Kilos | wb | 05:16 |
| highvoltage | thanks Kilos just dropping in :) | 05:17 |
| Kilos | its great to see you again :) | 05:17 |
| magespawn | good morning | 05:20 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 05:20 |
| magespawn | well done Kilos and superfly | 05:21 |
| Kilos | ty magespawn | 05:21 |
| Kilos | very harrowing experience | 05:21 |
| magespawn | over and done now though | 05:25 |
| Kilos | yeah thank heavens | 05:26 |
| magespawn | now we can make a plan with the africa channel of yours | 05:27 |
| Kilos | lol its growing by the day | 05:27 |
| Kilos | 7 official locos there already | 05:27 |
| Kilos | im already wondering if its possible to create a loco for locos | 05:30 |
| magespawn | cool beans, sometimes it takes a unusual way of thinking to come up with the really good ideas | 05:31 |
| magespawn | if you keep this up you might end up on the local council | 05:31 |
| magespawn | gotta go for a meeting bbl | 05:32 |
| Kilos | well they saw the plan in my wiki page so who knows | 05:33 |
| Kilos | oh no i dont wanna go there as well | 05:34 |
| Kilos | hi Jacques_Stry | 05:54 |
| Jacques_Stry | Morning | 05:54 |
| 32NAA8H4T | More almal | 06:43 |
| Kilos | oh my | 06:43 |
| === 32NAA8H4T is now known as bduk1 | ||
| bduk1 | Thats better | 06:43 |
| Kilos | môre bduk1 | 06:43 |
| bduk1 | Hoe gaan dit Kilos | 06:44 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en jy | 06:44 |
| Kilos | i go take sheep out quick | 06:44 |
| Kilos | wb Jacques_Stry | 06:51 |
| * Jacques_Stry bows, Thank You | 06:51 | |
| Kilos | \i wonder if load shedding is gonna hit me again today | 06:51 |
| superfly | thanks highvoltage :-) | 06:55 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how does it feel now? | 06:56 |
| inetpro | wb highvoltage | 06:56 |
| inetpro | nice to see you in here | 06:56 |
| inetpro | missed you at the meeting earlier | 06:57 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro raywan | 06:57 |
| Kilos | raywan welcome to ubuntu-za | 06:57 |
| Kilos | lol inetpro didnt get much sleep but otherwise very lekker | 06:58 |
| Kilos | ai! inetpro speel jy weer | 07:02 |
| === qwebirc22901 is now known as hawkiesza | ||
| Kilos | what does a members cloak do? | 07:03 |
| Kilos | superfly ^^ | 07:03 |
| Kilos | i was there for other info | 07:03 |
| raywan | hy guys, dropping in from #nairobilug | 07:03 |
| raywan | i'm liking the new look of your site | 07:03 |
| Kilos | cool hey | 07:04 |
| raywan | curious, what does LoCo stand for | 07:05 |
| Kilos | local community | 07:05 |
| raywan | :) | 07:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: the part in brackets => Kilos (~miles@unaffiliated/kilos) has joined #ubuntu-za | 07:06 |
| Kilos | but we are all so far apart that local gets stretched some | 07:06 |
| superfly | that's your cloak | 07:06 |
| superfly | hi raywan | 07:06 |
| Kilos | wasnt i cloaked already | 07:07 |
| superfly | you are, but now your cloak says "ubuntu/member" or something like that | 07:07 |
| raywan | ~ how many members are you at? | 07:07 |
| raywan | superfly: hy | 07:07 |
| Kilos | oh cool ty for that superfly | 07:08 |
| superfly | Kilos: yours will look something like this: ~Kilos@ubuntu/member/kilos | 07:08 |
| Kilos | oh cool, ill wait for it to happen | 07:09 |
| Kilos | raywan im not sure, somewhere in the 70s i think | 07:09 |
| Kilos | raywan do you mean ubuntu-za members or the new channels members | 07:12 |
| Kilos | #ubuntu-africa | 07:12 |
| Kilos | that is still a work in progress but 7 official locos have joined so far | 07:13 |
| raywan | #ubuntu-za, | 07:15 |
| Kilos | hi hawkiesza wb | 07:15 |
| raywan | I didn't know there was a #ubuntu-africa, | 07:15 |
| Kilos | its 3 days old raywan | 07:15 |
| Kilos | its part of a pet project | 07:15 |
| Kilos | we want to link all of africa there | 07:16 |
| raywan | great idea, | 07:17 |
| raywan | hm, 'missing' on the teams list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams) means - not joined yet? | 07:17 |
| Kilos | im waiting for approval from the irc council to make it an official channel | 07:17 |
| Kilos | thats right | 07:17 |
| Kilos | some locos seem to have died out now we want to revive them | 07:18 |
| raywan | nice, | 07:21 |
| raywan | Kilos: not sure if there's a LoCo here, | 07:21 |
| raywan | we have a lug meetup coming up, can ask around | 07:21 |
| Kilos | not as far as i know but the lug is with us | 07:22 |
| hawkiesza | Hi Kilos, thanks | 07:22 |
| Kilos | raywan you should see stickyboy there | 07:23 |
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 08:07 |
| Kilos | sorry, was so busy i didnt see you join | 08:07 |
| Squirm | morning | 08:17 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 08:17 |
| Kilos | Maaz seen hodgestar | 08:22 |
| Maaz | Kilos: hodgestar was last seen 2 years, 3 months, 18 days, 16 hours, 12 minutes and 54 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-10-30 09:09:55 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-12-30 06:16:32 PST | 08:22 |
| Kilos | oh my | 08:22 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 08:27 |
| mazal | Lo oom | 08:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: when are you getting your new email address? | 08:33 |
| Kilos | lol busy looking now | 08:33 |
| Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/30859/can-anyone-get-an-mynameubuntu-com-email-address | 08:33 |
| Kilos | i think we need the ubuntu cloak first | 08:34 |
| Kilos | the fly will do it easier | 08:35 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/FAQ | 08:35 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail | 08:42 |
| Kilos | ty i go see | 08:42 |
| inetpro | oh and Kilos, look at the following as well for your cloaking https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks | 08:44 |
| Kilos | ty i see <Tm_T> any staff members awake for few cloak requests? | 08:45 |
| Kilos | so they are busy with it | 08:45 |
| Kilos | watching #ubuntu-irc and #ubuntu-irc-council | 08:48 |
| Kilos | so many channels and poor browser doesnt know where to add more tabs | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:49 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 08:58 |
| magespawn | ty | 08:58 |
| Kilos | hi TinuvaMac | 09:13 |
| TinuvaMac | hi | 09:13 |
| TinuvaMac | how goes | 09:13 |
| Kilos | good ty and you | 09:13 |
| TinuvaMac | no complaints | 09:16 |
| Kilos | how well do you know macs | 09:16 |
| TinuvaMac | just just enough to use them | 09:17 |
| TinuvaMac | google if i need to solve some issue | 09:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:17 |
| TinuvaMac | why? | 09:17 |
| TinuvaMac | to be honest, other people have far more issues with their macs than I do | 09:17 |
| TinuvaMac | mine kinda...just work | 09:17 |
| Kilos | i was wondering if wiping a drive with a mac will make it refuse to allow other systems to install | 09:17 |
| TinuvaMac | doubt it | 09:18 |
| TinuvaMac | x86 macs, like pcs, also uses partitioning schemes on the drive | 09:18 |
| Kilos | i have a ssd that refuses to let linux install but disk utility shows its fine | 09:18 |
| TinuvaMac | with the only difference being, different filesystem | 09:18 |
| Kilos | in some tool i used it poppr error mac os and some other stuff | 09:19 |
| Kilos | popped | 09:19 |
| TinuvaMac | probably just need to reset the partitioning scheme | 09:19 |
| Kilos | i thought maybe mac os put something in the firmware | 09:19 |
| TinuvaMac | but if it is encrypted, you will need to remove that too | 09:19 |
| Kilos | ah that might be it | 09:20 |
| TinuvaMac | why not use the mac disk utility to erase the disk, and use a non-mac filesystem | 09:20 |
| Kilos | i can use it fine as a plain storage device but when installing ubuntu says it cant mount /root | 09:20 |
| TinuvaMac | might be something else | 09:21 |
| Kilos | its not serious, i just thought i was missing something simple | 09:21 |
| Kilos | im not going to use a ssd till i have a strong ups going | 09:22 |
| TinuvaMac | for my fileserver at home, im looking into buying a inverter/charge + 2x 102ah batteries, to get it through loadshedding | 09:23 |
| Kilos | yeah batteries are just expensive | 09:24 |
| Kilos | i have an inverter | 09:24 |
| Kilos | used to run a tv for a bit over an hour off a car battery | 09:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | afaik car batteries are not good for that | 09:29 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you need deep cycle batteries, not so? | 09:29 |
| Kilos | ? | 09:31 |
| Kilos | the tv worked | 09:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | just because something works doesn't mean its a good idea over the long term | 09:31 |
| Kilos | i dont know enough about batteries | 09:32 |
| Kilos | dont even know what a deep cycle battery is | 09:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | well think of how a car battery is used | 09:33 |
| Kilos | ya drain on start then charge when running | 09:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its primary function is to start the engine, with the engine running it really isn't needed | 09:33 |
| Kilos | yes thats rightr | 09:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so its optimised for a massive load spike and then pretty much no load | 09:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | running an inverter is a lower power load but its more continuous | 09:34 |
| Kilos | yes that first drain to start turning the engine is very heavy | 09:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | which car batteries (if i understand what I've read) are not very good at over the longer term | 09:35 |
| Kilos | aha | 09:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so while it works, you'll find that it isn't good | 09:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | car batteries get very unhappy if they are run flat too much | 09:35 |
| Kilos | yeah | 09:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i know this becuase i have killed my fair share of batteries just leaving my lights on too many times | 09:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | whereas deep cycle batteries are designed to run continuous loads, and can handle being run flat, or at least near flat, many times | 09:36 |
| Kilos | aha | 09:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question219.htm | 09:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I think I pretty much got it right if I read that | 09:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nice summary | 09:38 |
| magespawn | yup thats right, deep cycle batteries cost a little more. | 09:39 |
| Kilos | nice explanation there | 09:41 |
| Kilos | so mainly the plates are thicker | 09:41 |
| Kilos | and the price | 09:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | magespawn: do you know a bit about this stuff? who are the guys who supply this stuff? | 09:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | might be worth looking into with all eskom's issues apparently going to go on for a few years still | 09:42 |
| magespawn | depends on the size but about R100 - R250 more than the same size car battery | 09:42 |
| magespawn | most battery places can get them for you | 09:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ah ok | 09:43 |
| magespawn | so supa quick, battery centre etc | 09:43 |
| magespawn | most of the well known brands have deep cycle type batteries | 09:43 |
| magespawn | i use a 1251 size to run one of the wireless high points, two nanobeam m5, and it usually sees us through the two hours of eskom go slow | 09:45 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:45 |
| Kilos | maybe its cheaper to go to a golf course and drive a cart home. then you have a strong battery | 09:46 |
| Kilos | will last a week or more | 09:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:46 |
| Squirm | magespawn: we ran a NanoStation M5 on a 24v Solar Panel with 2 Deep Cycle batteries | 09:52 |
| Squirm | it had an uptime of about 300 days | 09:52 |
| Squirm | Before it got hit by lightning | 09:52 |
| Squirm | :/ | 09:52 |
| Kilos | ouch | 09:52 |
| magespawn | that does tend to stop things working a bit | 09:52 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:53 |
| Squirm | Could have actually been a lot closer to a year uptime | 09:53 |
| Squirm | It wasn't connected to the grid | 09:53 |
| Squirm | It was quite cool to see it just.... run | 09:53 |
| inetpro | Squirm: cost? | 09:53 |
| magespawn | this is just as back up for power outages | 09:53 |
| Squirm | inetpro: I can't remember. The solar panels probably were the biggest expense. Can't remember the wattage :/ | 09:54 |
| Kilos | according to my broadband things could get worse | 09:54 |
| Squirm | Kilos: they probably will | 09:54 |
| Squirm | This week's power outages were supposedly caused by human error | 09:54 |
| Kilos | arent they all | 09:54 |
| Squirm | Kilos: well.. in the greater scheme of things, yes | 09:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:55 |
| Squirm | I need coffee... Been so busy haven't had a cup today | 09:55 |
| Kilos | thats why my boet went to dubai | 09:55 |
| magespawn | exactly | 09:55 |
| Kilos | got tired of building gennys and having them started without lubrication switched on first | 09:56 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 09:56 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 09:56 | |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee please | 09:56 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Righto | 09:56 |
| magespawn | Kilos: that is serious repeat business | 09:57 |
| magespawn | Maaz irish coffee | 09:57 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Sorry... | 09:57 |
| magespawn | ahh well worth a try | 09:57 |
| Kilos | yeah and those armatures cost millions each | 09:57 |
| Kilos | some seized and ripped the whole thing off mountings | 09:58 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! | 10:00 |
| Kilos | Maaz thanks man | 10:04 |
| Maaz | Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) | 10:04 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 10:04 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 10:04 |
| Kilos | i really dont want to lose ibids | 10:05 |
| Kilos | hi drussell | 10:27 |
| Kilos | we got there fly and i | 10:27 |
| drussell | Kilos: Hey man, happy Friday! | 10:27 |
| Kilos | you too | 10:27 |
| superfly | Kilos: drussell probably doesn't get the context, tell him what happened. | 10:34 |
| Kilos | hey drussel you losing out man | 10:35 |
| drussell | lol | 10:35 |
| Kilos | the fly and i got ubuntu membership after midnight last night | 10:35 |
| Kilos | and they gave us sjambuks for peeps that stay away from here too long | 10:36 |
| Kilos | drussell ^^ | 10:38 |
| Kilos | start shaking | 10:38 |
| inetpro | does he know what a sjambuk is? | 10:45 |
| Kilos | he should he is from here | 10:45 |
| Kilos | and maybe old enough to have felt one work | 10:45 |
| Kilos | hmm... he is hiding already | 10:50 |
| inetpro | :-) | 10:52 |
| Kilos | hehehe | 10:52 |
| drussell | HAHAHAHA congrats to you both! | 11:03 |
| Kilos | ty drussell | 11:04 |
| Kilos | :D | 11:04 |
| highvoltage | well done Kilos :) | 11:05 |
| Kilos | ty highvoltage it was only because of the support from my friends | 11:05 |
| Kilos | oh you also saw the bit about sjambuks | 11:06 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:06 |
| highvoltage | heh, barely | 11:12 |
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| stickyboy | Nairobi GNU/Linux Users Group blog is now HTTPS-only: https://nairobilug.or.ke :D | 12:23 |
| stickyboy | superfly: ^^^ that was your influence. :P | 12:23 |
| superfly | stickyboy: nothing to do with me, I'm afraid! | 12:24 |
| superfly | that's tumbleweed's fault ;-) | 12:24 |
| stickyboy | superfly: Ah. :D | 12:24 |
| stickyboy | tumbleweed: HTTPS FTW. | 12:24 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 12:24 |
| stickyboy | DEPLOY HARD CRYPTO. | 12:24 |
| stickyboy | break all teh dragnet surveillance. | 12:25 |
| stickyboy | Hey, on that note, someone needs to update the topic here... | 12:25 |
| stickyboy | :D | 12:25 |
| Kilos | stickyboy whats wrong with our topic? | 12:26 |
| superfly | Kilos: the website url doesn't say "https" | 12:27 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 12:27 |
| stickyboy | Details matter ;) | 12:28 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa https://ubuntu-za.org || PBin: http://slexy.org/ || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || https://twitter.com/ubuntuza || Next Meeting: Tue, 24 February 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1yyBNyh | ||
| inetpro | thanks stickyboy | 12:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:32 |
| * inetpro likes to agree on that note | 12:32 | |
| Kilos | stickyboy happy now? | 12:32 |
| magespawn | inetpro slexy and the logs are't hhtps? | 12:32 |
| magespawn | s/hhtps/https | 12:33 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:33 |
| inetpro | magespawn: it ain't working with the (s) | 12:33 |
| inetpro | actually irclogs does works with https but | 12:34 |
| Kilos | inetpro fix it | 12:34 |
| inetpro | the certificate belongs to another host | 12:35 |
| magespawn | oops | 12:36 |
| inetpro | actually | 12:36 |
| inetpro | it doesn't take you to the logs at all :-( | 12:37 |
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| Kilos | oh my | 12:38 |
| Kilos | so superfly do we need to restart irc clients to see the cloak or is it only visible to others | 12:40 |
| Kilos | or are they still busy | 12:41 |
| superfly | Kilos: we'll have to log out and back into freenode | 12:41 |
| superfly | Kilos: I don't know if anyone has done anything yet | 12:41 |
| Kilos | ty superfly i dont know how much work it is | 12:42 |
| superfly | Kilos: not much, but they might have to contact Freenode staff, so it may take a little while. Keep your eyes on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks | 12:42 |
| Kilos | ty | 12:42 |
| magespawn | so you guys now get an ubuntu cloak? | 12:46 |
| Kilos | yeah and an email thingie too | 12:47 |
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| Kilos | but thats confusing because you still use gmail etc it just then goes to ubuntu email somewhere | 12:47 |
| Kilos | oh superfly you mean watch by latest members? | 12:48 |
| Kilos | oh the cheeky thing says im not a member too | 12:49 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's an alias. That means that you still get e-mail from your gmail, it just forwards mail on | 12:49 |
| Kilos | what is the reason for having that then please? | 12:50 |
| Kilos | more security or what | 12:50 |
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| Kilos | just now they kick me out there | 13:00 |
| Kilos | wbb | 13:23 |
| Kilos | superfly restart irc client | 13:26 |
| Kilos | oh no | 13:26 |
| Kilos | too tired to think straight now | 13:26 |
| superfly | gaan slaap. when you wake up everything will be done :-P | 13:28 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 13:28 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 13:44 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos | 13:44 |
| stickyboy | Nairobi GNU/Linux Users Group meeting is tomorrow. | 15:29 |
| stickyboy | https://twitter.com/nairobilug/status/563719933654097920 | 15:29 |
| stickyboy | Topic: Uniting African LUGs. | 15:29 |
| Squirm | Hey all | 16:21 |
| Squirm | superfly: be prepared for tonight | 16:22 |
| Squirm | But you probably know | 16:22 |
| Squirm | :/ | 16:22 |
| Kilos | oh no loadshed Squirm | 16:24 |
| Squirm | Yep | 16:24 |
| Kilos | im dreading it | 16:24 |
| Kilos | nothing has gone off here today | 16:24 |
| superfly | Squirm yep I know | 16:33 |
| Kilos | what time fly? | 16:35 |
| Squirm | 8pm | 16:58 |
| Squirm | We're in the same zone | 16:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:58 |
| Squirm | Meh, don't really know what to do for this Valentines day thing that is in a week | 16:58 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:59 |
| Kilos | buy yourself a big box of chocolate | 16:59 |
| Squirm | Buying myself stuff is easy - Just bought myself an Arduino | 17:01 |
| Squirm | It's what to buy the girlfriend | 17:01 |
| Squirm | Or where to take her | 17:01 |
| Kilos | if you can afford it a bracelet necklace or chain swu | 17:04 |
| Kilos | Squirm | 17:05 |
| Squirm | Maybe I'll picnic at Silvermine | 17:05 |
| Squirm | Kilos | 17:05 |
| Kilos | something that doesnt disappear in 2 days | 17:05 |
| Squirm | Oh right | 17:06 |
| Squirm | Yeah | 17:06 |
| Kilos | flowers and chocolate are a bit more on the romantic side but something theyll enjoy wearing for years is more logical imo | 17:06 |
| Kilos | a nice ring also can work | 17:07 |
| Kilos | and say you wanted to take her out but thast would mean sharing the prescious time you have | 17:08 |
| Squirm | Would rather get something like that for a birthday though | 17:08 |
| Squirm | I've decided we're picnic'ing | 17:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:08 |
| Squirm | so now I'm going to reward myself with Pizza | 17:08 |
| Squirm | chat in a bit, popping out | 17:09 |
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| Kilos | wbb | 17:34 |
| Kilos | sis not happy. they must be load shedding where our tv signal comes from so no 7de laan | 17:41 |
| qwebirc41659 | :( | 17:43 |
| qwebirc41659 | at load shedding | 17:43 |
| qwebirc41659 | busy looking for solar lights now, so pricey though | 17:43 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:43 |
| === raywan is now known as raywan|away | ||
| qwebirc41659 | ooh, ubuntu phone launched | 17:43 |
| === raywan|away is now known as raywan | ||
| Squirm | mmmm | 17:57 |
| Squirm | Pizza | 17:57 |
| Squirm | Oh dear, laptop is on 57%, supposedly 1.5 hours left on battery | 17:58 |
| Squirm | :/ | 17:58 |
| Squirm | Bad move Sinjin, should have left it on charge | 17:58 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:59 |
| Kilos | you want to borrow my email addy | 18:00 |
| Kilos | ill get it from inetpro if you do | 18:00 |
| Squirm | for? | 18:00 |
| Kilos | for the things you do | 18:00 |
| Kilos | msdomdonner | 18:00 |
| Kilos | lol i wonder how many peeps out of za know what it means | 18:01 |
| Squirm | i certainly dont | 18:02 |
| Squirm | and we're out | 18:02 |
| Squirm | :/ | 18:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:03 |
| Squirm | meh | 18:04 |
| Squirm | Load Shedding... | 18:04 |
| Squirm | Closed Chrome, 3 hours on battery | 18:07 |
| inetpro | damn!! | 18:07 |
| Squirm | but now Vlc will munch it all | 18:07 |
| inetpro | laptop kaputt | 18:07 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:07 |
| Squirm | inetpro: doubled my battery life my closing chromw | 18:08 |
| inetpro | hangs on bios boot up, can't even go to the setup | 18:08 |
| Squirm | :/ | 18:09 |
| Kilos | ohi magespawn | 18:12 |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:12 |
| magespawn | so whats up Kilos? | 18:15 |
| Kilos | waiting for ubuntu cloak still and for the moderator to mail my mail to the irc council | 18:16 |
| Kilos | i forgot to first register with irc mail | 18:17 |
| Kilos | and non members can mail the council directly | 18:17 |
| Kilos | cant | 18:18 |
| Kilos | what a twit | 18:18 |
| Kilos | blame goosie | 18:18 |
| Kilos | he forces me at gunpoint to multitask then when i mess up tells me one step at a time | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:26 |
| inetpro | looks like my hdd crashed or something | 18:27 |
| magespawn | you can only one thing at a time, no matter how hard you try | 18:29 |
| magespawn | ^do | 18:29 |
| inetpro | when hdd is unplugged it boots, obviously stopping when detecting no os | 18:29 |
| Kilos | oh my inetpro where is the os | 18:29 |
| Kilos | oh | 18:30 |
| Kilos | so the drive eats a bit of power to bootup | 18:30 |
| magespawn | does it read/detect the hard drive? you can see it in the bios | 18:30 |
| Kilos | get a ssd | 18:30 |
| inetpro | magespawn: I think it hangs before detection of the hdd | 18:31 |
| inetpro | or before displaying hdd detection | 18:31 |
| Kilos | oh my goodness | 18:32 |
| Kilos | thats sad inetpro | 18:32 |
| Kilos | did you drop it? | 18:33 |
| Kilos | now youve spoiled an utterly miserable day | 18:34 |
| superfly | Squirm: 3.5 hours left here | 18:34 |
| superfly | but I'm on a netbook | 18:34 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn \ | 18:52 |
| magespawn | ty | 18:52 |
| magespawn | tablet decided it had enough | 18:53 |
| Kilos | oh my you too | 18:53 |
| superfly | Kilos: what mail did you send to that list? I don't really want to know, but I probably need to know for later | 18:53 |
| Kilos | sec let me find it | 18:53 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20o1YSZZC | 18:55 |
| Kilos | maybe i should resend now that im registered | 18:55 |
| Kilos | and bypass the moderator guy | 18:56 |
| superfly | Kilos: why do you need to ask permission to make an IRC channel? | 18:56 |
| Kilos | to make it an officially recognised channel you need approval | 18:57 |
| superfly | does it *need* to be officially recognised? | 18:57 |
| Kilos | yes , i just need to try remeber why | 18:58 |
| superfly | I was about to ask: why? | 18:58 |
| Kilos | oh then they supply log bots etc | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I can always work without a harddrive | 18:59 |
| superfly | if you really need them... | 18:59 |
| Kilos | and something else | 18:59 |
| Kilos | well there are going to be meetings superfly | 18:59 |
| Kilos | and i think to get permission to form a loco that covers such a large area it would be wise to have everything official | 19:01 |
| Kilos | will be the largest loco i think | 19:01 |
| magespawn | not really loco, more regional | 19:01 |
| Kilos | ya it might need to be called something different | 19:02 |
| Kilos | i think i asked them for alternatives ideas | 19:02 |
| inetpro | I also don't see why you need to register, but if you really want to there is nothing wrong with asking | 19:02 |
| Kilos | well inetpro as stated i think, there are ubuntu users all over , in bits and pieces | 19:03 |
| Kilos | so | 19:03 |
| Kilos | this will offer them a fixed centre point to work from | 19:03 |
| Kilos | like a country with 2 users will struggle to form a loco and maintain it | 19:04 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes, but as inetpro said, there's no reason why you have to register it or make it official | 19:04 |
| magespawn | superfly: why would the be teaching delphi in schools? | 19:04 |
| magespawn | s/the/they | 19:05 |
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| superfly | Kilos: I would suggest getting things up and running, and then if it's all working well, go to the council and ask. Then they can see that there is a need and it's working. | 19:05 |
| superfly | magespawn: because they are stupid | 19:05 |
| superfly | magespawn: and they're being bought out by commercial interests | 19:06 |
| inetpro | it's not even as if canonical owns freenode | 19:06 |
| superfly | same old same old | 19:06 |
| Kilos | lemme digest that | 19:06 |
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| inetpro | channels all belong to freenode after all | 19:06 |
| superfly | raywan: you do know that IRC has an "away" mode? | 19:06 |
| Kilos | oh superfly it is up and running but atm is just another channel | 19:07 |
| * magespawn goes to google a bit | 19:07 | |
| Kilos | members go up to 13 atm and most are single guys from working locos | 19:07 |
| superfly | magespawn: I've done delphi, it's a great language for Windows-only GUI development. | 19:07 |
| superfly | magespawn: but the reality is that even Java is better | 19:08 |
| superfly | magespawn: I would far rather they learn python, which is a much more practical, applicable and easy to learn language | 19:08 |
| superfly | AND, if you REALLY want to do GUI dev, you can use PyQt4/5 | 19:09 |
| magespawn | it does not look like python comes up, but Java does so that is a bit of a plus | 19:09 |
| superfly | Kilos: that's great. but you don't need Canonical to cast their hand over it. Just do it. Remember, open source is a do-ocracy. | 19:09 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's the people who do stuff that go places | 19:10 |
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| magespawn | Kilos: also if you get enough support on the ground it might offcial recognition anyway | 19:10 |
| superfly | Kilos: what you are doing is relevant no matter who approves it or denies it or whatever | 19:10 |
| magespawn | +1 | 19:11 |
| Squirm | superfly: heading up Boyes Drive in 30. Want to see all the lights come back | 19:11 |
| superfly | evening Xethron | 19:11 |
| superfly | Squirm: haha, nice idea! | 19:11 |
| Squirm | superfly: yeah, want to take photos | 19:12 |
| Squirm | before and after | 19:12 |
| superfly | very cool | 19:12 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:12 |
| superfly | mrs_fly would love to do that... bit awkward with the kids though | 19:12 |
| superfly | (especially since 8pm is their bed time) | 19:12 |
| Kilos | so how to i get ubuntulog and so on | 19:13 |
| magespawn | quite clever how they named delphi though | 19:14 |
| Kilos | i think we need logs | 19:14 |
| Squirm | superfly: yeah | 19:14 |
| Squirm | superfly: well... join me tonight, she can go tomorrow night :D | 19:14 |
| Kilos | there are already 4 ubuntu members there so ill have to convince them too that we dont want to register | 19:14 |
| Kilos | sigh decisions decisions | 19:15 |
| Squirm | Kilos: you're doing well | 19:15 |
| superfly | Squirm: nah, too comfy | 19:15 |
| Kilos | ty Squirm | 19:15 |
| Kilos | hard work though especially after a very late night | 19:15 |
| Squirm | I reckon, if you get a following, then head to Canonical | 19:16 |
| Squirm | You'll do well | 19:16 |
| Kilos | lol and then so excited i couldnt sleep anyway | 19:16 |
| Squirm | Haha | 19:16 |
| superfly | Squirm: no need to do any convincing, just get on and do stuff | 19:16 |
| Squirm | ok | 19:16 |
| superfly | ag, not Squirm, Kilos | 19:16 |
| Squirm | don't know how all the approving and such works | 19:16 |
| Kilos | superfly 2 of the members were there for support last night | 19:17 |
| Kilos | superfly i dont want to do it all myself. everyone there must do his bit | 19:18 |
| Kilos | and stickyboy is taking it to nairobilugs next meet | 19:19 |
| Kilos | there are a few ubuntu users there too | 19:19 |
| magespawn | Kilos you thinking to add other ways to communicate? website? mailing list? | 19:20 |
| Kilos | some of them have websites | 19:20 |
| Kilos | and of course mailing lists | 19:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: if you register a team on Launchpad, you can make a mailing list for the team, did you know that? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | no i havent read a 1/4 of all the documentation out there, my poor browser is groaning | 19:23 |
| Kilos | 13+ tabs open all the time | 19:23 |
| * inetpro never too old to learn anything | 19:23 | |
| inetpro | superfly: I didn't even know that | 19:23 |
| Kilos | ok now even more important | 19:24 |
| Kilos | ibid | 19:24 |
| Squirm | That's cool | 19:24 |
| Squirm | I know Google Groups also is that | 19:24 |
| Kilos | will ibid run on other linux systems | 19:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you worry too much | 19:25 |
| Squirm | It's python right? | 19:25 |
| Squirm | If it's python, then any linux machine with python | 19:25 |
| Kilos | if i can get one of them to host QA then we are made as far as meetings go | 19:25 |
| Kilos | and the pro can come chair | 19:25 |
| inetpro | no | 19:25 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:26 |
| Squirm | Haha | 19:26 |
| Kilos | rofl | 19:26 |
| Squirm | I'll chat to you all later | 19:26 |
| Kilos | whew i needed that laugh | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Squirm: enjoy! | 19:26 |
| Kilos | cheers Squirm | 19:26 |
| Kilos | yeah enjoy | 19:26 |
| Kilos | im a lucky man to have such wonderful friends | 19:27 |
| Kilos | worth the headache | 19:27 |
| Squirm | I will do | 19:28 |
| * Squirm prods nuvolari | 19:28 | |
| Squirm | Hurry | 19:28 |
| Kilos | Squirm hit him for me please | 19:28 |
| Squirm | I will | 19:28 |
| Kilos | not too hard though | 19:28 |
| Kilos | tell him he is chairing within the next 2 weeks | 19:29 |
| Squirm | He's a busy man these days | 19:29 |
| Squirm | Kilos: just drop him a memo ^^ | 19:29 |
| Kilos | no man i cant hit him if he says no | 19:29 |
| Squirm | Because I know I'll probably forget | 19:29 |
| Kilos | chairing on #ubuntu-africa | 19:30 |
| Squirm | Ok, chat in a bit folks | 19:30 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:30 |
| inetpro | superfly: so is the cloaking triggered? | 19:35 |
| superfly | inetpro: i haven't a clue | 19:35 |
| inetpro | hmm.. no indication of when it will be done? | 19:35 |
| superfly | nope | 19:35 |
| inetpro | did you ask? | 19:35 |
| superfly | nope | 19:35 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:36 |
| inetpro | I mean with freenode it's literally a matter of minutes | 19:36 |
| Kilos | ya takes longer to ask for it than to get it | 19:37 |
| Kilos | i go crash now guys. have a good night | 19:41 |
| Kilos | sleep tight all | 19:41 |
| inetpro | Latest members | 19:41 |
| inetpro | Raoul Snyman | 19:41 |
| inetpro | miles.sharpe | 19:41 |
| inetpro | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers | 19:41 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:41 |
| inetpro | at least something has happened already | 19:41 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:41 |
| inetpro | but you do not yet appear here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers/+members | 19:42 |
| inetpro | at least not what I can see | 19:42 |
| inetpro | ahh... names are on the list as well | 19:44 |
| inetpro | but sorting by date sucks | 19:44 |
| inetpro | miles.sharpe 21 hours ago 2017-02-04 Approved | 19:44 |
| Kilos | ya raoul snyman is there man | 19:44 |
| inetpro | Raoul Snyman 21 hours ago 2017-02-04 Approved | 19:44 |
| Kilos | you need to go to last then back | 19:45 |
| inetpro | ahh... on expires yes | 19:45 |
| Kilos | 376-450 | 19:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you're the odd one out again | 19:46 |
| Kilos | ya the name is yuck with a . in | 19:46 |
| inetpro | sorting by expired doesn't show you | 19:46 |
| Kilos | i didnt know how to makes things back then | 19:46 |
| Kilos | or now | 19:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: you can edit your name | 19:47 |
| superfly | find the little yellow ! icon | 19:47 |
| Kilos | oh how | 19:47 |
| superfly | https://launchpad.net/~msdomdonner/+edit | 19:48 |
| Kilos | 301-375 inetpro | 19:48 |
| Kilos | ai | 19:51 |
| Kilos | Changing your name will change your public OpenID identifier. This means that you might be locked out of certain sites where you used it, or that somebody could create a new profile with the same name and log in as you on these third-party sites. | 19:51 |
| Kilos | what do i do now. ive changed it | 19:52 |
| superfly | power's back on | 19:53 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lo | 19:55 |
| Kilos | yay thats fixed | 19:56 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 19:56 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 19:57 |
| Kilos | so now its just the cloaks right | 19:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | my highlight isn't working because of http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1336 :-/ | 19:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:59 |
| stickyboy | w00t | 20:01 |
| Kilos | h stickyboy | 20:01 |
| Kilos | hi as well | 20:01 |
| Kilos | what has you so excited | 20:01 |
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| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: why are you connecting through a bouncer? | 20:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so i can catch up on missed conversations :) | 20:11 |
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| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: the idea behind Quassel is that you host the core somewhere, and it acts as a bouncer | 20:48 |
| superfly | why not do that? | 20:48 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:58 |
| inetpro | hmm, interesting concept to connect quassel to the bouncer | 20:59 |
| inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: I agree with superfly, why not do it the right way and just install the proper quassel-core? | 21:01 |
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| magespawn | good night all | 21:13 |
| * stickyboy uses ZNC for his BNC. | 21:19 | |
| stickyboy | Then I connect with irssi. :D | 21:19 |
| Squirm | evening | 22:00 |
| stickyboy | Squirm: Hola | 22:01 |
| Squirm | hey stickyboy | 22:03 |
| Neo31 | hey stickyboy | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | :) | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | how r u today ? :) | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | yo superfly :) | 22:10 |
| superfly | hey Neo31 | 22:10 |
| stickyboy | Neo31: I'm good. | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | good | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | :) | 22:10 |
| superfly | I'm heading to bed... | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | superfly, last | 22:10 |
| Neo31 | lol | 22:11 |
| stickyboy | We've been hacking on the Nairobi LUG blog for a few hours. | 22:11 |
| Neo31 | ok | 22:11 |
| Neo31 | just to explain what i wanted to say last night superfly | 22:11 |
| stickyboy | Lots of code going on GitHub right nowwwwwww. | 22:11 |
| superfly | Neo31: sure | 22:11 |
| Neo31 | i wanted to know if you have made a gui for python using QML | 22:11 |
| Neo31 | that is through qt of course (correct me if i'm wrong) | 22:11 |
| superfly | what do you mean "for python"? have I made a GUI written in Python and using Qt/QML? | 22:12 |
| Neo31 | cool stickyboy :) | 22:12 |
| Neo31 | a backend code in python with frontend gui with qt/qml | 22:12 |
| superfly | in GUI apps there is no such thing as "backend" or "frontend" | 22:12 |
| Neo31 | yeah, i mean the gui | 22:13 |
| Neo31 | the view | 22:13 |
| Neo31 | not the controlelr and logic behind it | 22:13 |
| superfly | I have not written a GUI app using QML, but I do know PyQt4 fairly well | 22:13 |
| Neo31 | i need to make a qml interface for a python code | 22:13 |
| Neo31 | have u tried pyqt5 ? | 22:13 |
| superfly | Neo31: stop thinking of it as an interface | 22:14 |
| superfly | they are all one big clump | 22:14 |
| Neo31 | few months ago it didn't work good enough out of the box | 22:14 |
| Neo31 | yep | 22:14 |
| superfly | nothing ever works "good enough" out of the box | 22:14 |
| Neo31 | hhh | 22:14 |
| Neo31 | ok, things might be better now, i'll give it a try and tell u if i need some help with that :) | 22:15 |
| superfly | I've played with PyQt5. It worked for what I needed | 22:15 |
| Neo31 | good superfly | 22:15 |
| Neo31 | i'll get back to u if i need some help with that then :) | 22:15 |
| superfly | alright | 22:15 |
| Neo31 | thx | 22:15 |
| superfly | Good night everyone. | 22:15 |
| Neo31 | good night superfly | 22:15 |
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