[04:28] good morning za peeps [04:29] hi user79 welcome to ubuntu-za [04:29] hi superfly [04:43] hi Tonberry [04:43] hi [05:16] superfly: congratulations on the Ubuntu membership! [05:16] lo highvoltage [05:16] wb [05:17] thanks Kilos just dropping in :) [05:17] its great to see you again :) [05:20] good morning [05:20] hi magespawn [05:21] well done Kilos and superfly [05:21] ty magespawn [05:21] very harrowing experience [05:25] over and done now though [05:26] yeah thank heavens [05:27] now we can make a plan with the africa channel of yours [05:27] lol its growing by the day [05:27] 7 official locos there already [05:30] im already wondering if its possible to create a loco for locos [05:31] cool beans, sometimes it takes a unusual way of thinking to come up with the really good ideas [05:31] if you keep this up you might end up on the local council [05:32] gotta go for a meeting bbl [05:33] well they saw the plan in my wiki page so who knows [05:34] oh no i dont wanna go there as well [05:54] hi Jacques_Stry [05:54] Morning [06:43] <32NAA8H4T> More almal [06:43] oh my === 32NAA8H4T is now known as bduk1 [06:43] Thats better [06:43] môre bduk1 [06:44] Hoe gaan dit Kilos [06:44] goed dankie en jy [06:44] i go take sheep out quick [06:51] wb Jacques_Stry [06:51] * Jacques_Stry bows, Thank You [06:51] \i wonder if load shedding is gonna hit me again today [06:55] thanks highvoltage :-) [06:56] good mornings [06:56] Kilos: how does it feel now? [06:56] wb highvoltage [06:56] nice to see you in here [06:57] missed you at the meeting earlier [06:57] hi inetpro raywan [06:57] raywan welcome to ubuntu-za [06:58] lol inetpro didnt get much sleep but otherwise very lekker [07:02] ai! inetpro speel jy weer === qwebirc22901 is now known as hawkiesza [07:03] what does a members cloak do? [07:03] superfly ^^ [07:03] i was there for other info [07:03] hy guys, dropping in from #nairobilug [07:03] i'm liking the new look of your site [07:04] cool hey [07:05] curious, what does LoCo stand for [07:05] local community [07:05] :) [07:06] Kilos: the part in brackets => Kilos (~miles@unaffiliated/kilos) has joined #ubuntu-za [07:06] but we are all so far apart that local gets stretched some [07:06] that's your cloak [07:06] hi raywan [07:07] wasnt i cloaked already [07:07] you are, but now your cloak says "ubuntu/member" or something like that [07:07] ~ how many members are you at? [07:07] superfly: hy [07:08] oh cool ty for that superfly [07:08] Kilos: yours will look something like this: ~Kilos@ubuntu/member/kilos [07:09] oh cool, ill wait for it to happen [07:09] raywan im not sure, somewhere in the 70s i think [07:12] raywan do you mean ubuntu-za members or the new channels members [07:12] #ubuntu-africa [07:13] that is still a work in progress but 7 official locos have joined so far [07:15] #ubuntu-za, [07:15] hi hawkiesza wb [07:15] I didn't know there was a #ubuntu-africa, [07:15] its 3 days old raywan [07:15] its part of a pet project [07:16] we want to link all of africa there [07:17] great idea, [07:17] hm, 'missing' on the teams list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams) means - not joined yet? [07:17] im waiting for approval from the irc council to make it an official channel [07:17] thats right [07:18] some locos seem to have died out now we want to revive them [07:21] nice, [07:21] Kilos: not sure if there's a LoCo here, [07:21] we have a lug meetup coming up, can ask around [07:22] not as far as i know but the lug is with us [07:22] Hi Kilos, thanks [07:23] raywan you should see stickyboy there === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away [08:07] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:07] sorry, was so busy i didnt see you join [08:17] morning [08:17] hi Squirm [08:22] Maaz seen hodgestar [08:22] Kilos: hodgestar was last seen 2 years, 3 months, 18 days, 16 hours, 12 minutes and 54 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-10-30 09:09:55 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-12-30 06:16:32 PST [08:22] oh my [08:27] hi mazal [08:28] Lo oom [08:33] Kilos: when are you getting your new email address? [08:33] lol busy looking now [08:33] http://askubuntu.com/questions/30859/can-anyone-get-an-mynameubuntu-com-email-address [08:34] i think we need the ubuntu cloak first [08:35] the fly will do it easier [08:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/FAQ [08:38] sjoe [08:42] Kilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail [08:42] ty i go see [08:44] oh and Kilos, look at the following as well for your cloaking https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks [08:45] ty i see any staff members awake for few cloak requests? [08:45] so they are busy with it [08:48] watching #ubuntu-irc and #ubuntu-irc-council [08:49] so many channels and poor browser doesnt know where to add more tabs [08:49] hehe [08:58] wb magespawn [08:58] ty [09:13] hi TinuvaMac [09:13] hi [09:13] how goes [09:13] good ty and you [09:16] no complaints [09:16] how well do you know macs [09:17] just just enough to use them [09:17] google if i need to solve some issue [09:17] lol [09:17] why? [09:17] to be honest, other people have far more issues with their macs than I do [09:17] mine kinda...just work [09:17] i was wondering if wiping a drive with a mac will make it refuse to allow other systems to install [09:18] doubt it [09:18] x86 macs, like pcs, also uses partitioning schemes on the drive [09:18] i have a ssd that refuses to let linux install but disk utility shows its fine [09:18] with the only difference being, different filesystem [09:19] in some tool i used it poppr error mac os and some other stuff [09:19] popped [09:19] probably just need to reset the partitioning scheme [09:19] i thought maybe mac os put something in the firmware [09:19] but if it is encrypted, you will need to remove that too [09:20] ah that might be it [09:20] why not use the mac disk utility to erase the disk, and use a non-mac filesystem [09:20] i can use it fine as a plain storage device but when installing ubuntu says it cant mount /root [09:21] might be something else [09:21] its not serious, i just thought i was missing something simple [09:22] im not going to use a ssd till i have a strong ups going [09:23] for my fileserver at home, im looking into buying a inverter/charge + 2x 102ah batteries, to get it through loadshedding [09:24] yeah batteries are just expensive [09:24] i have an inverter [09:26] used to run a tv for a bit over an hour off a car battery [09:29] afaik car batteries are not good for that [09:29] you need deep cycle batteries, not so? [09:31] ? [09:31] the tv worked [09:31] just because something works doesn't mean its a good idea over the long term [09:32] i dont know enough about batteries [09:33] dont even know what a deep cycle battery is [09:33] well think of how a car battery is used [09:33] ya drain on start then charge when running [09:33] its primary function is to start the engine, with the engine running it really isn't needed [09:34] yes thats rightr [09:34] so its optimised for a massive load spike and then pretty much no load [09:34] running an inverter is a lower power load but its more continuous [09:34] yes that first drain to start turning the engine is very heavy [09:35] which car batteries (if i understand what I've read) are not very good at over the longer term [09:35] aha [09:35] so while it works, you'll find that it isn't good [09:35] car batteries get very unhappy if they are run flat too much [09:35] yeah [09:36] i know this becuase i have killed my fair share of batteries just leaving my lights on too many times [09:36] lol [09:36] whereas deep cycle batteries are designed to run continuous loads, and can handle being run flat, or at least near flat, many times [09:37] aha [09:38] http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question219.htm [09:38] I think I pretty much got it right if I read that [09:38] nice summary [09:39] yup thats right, deep cycle batteries cost a little more. [09:41] nice explanation there [09:41] so mainly the plates are thicker [09:41] and the price [09:42] magespawn: do you know a bit about this stuff? who are the guys who supply this stuff? [09:42] might be worth looking into with all eskom's issues apparently going to go on for a few years still [09:42] depends on the size but about R100 - R250 more than the same size car battery [09:43] most battery places can get them for you [09:43] ah ok [09:43] so supa quick, battery centre etc [09:43] most of the well known brands have deep cycle type batteries [09:45] i use a 1251 size to run one of the wireless high points, two nanobeam m5, and it usually sees us through the two hours of eskom go slow [09:45] sjoe [09:46] maybe its cheaper to go to a golf course and drive a cart home. then you have a strong battery [09:46] will last a week or more [09:46] hehe [09:52] magespawn: we ran a NanoStation M5 on a 24v Solar Panel with 2 Deep Cycle batteries [09:52] it had an uptime of about 300 days [09:52] Before it got hit by lightning [09:52] :/ [09:52] ouch [09:52] that does tend to stop things working a bit [09:53] haha [09:53] Could have actually been a lot closer to a year uptime [09:53] It wasn't connected to the grid [09:53] It was quite cool to see it just.... run [09:53] Squirm: cost? [09:53] this is just as back up for power outages [09:54] inetpro: I can't remember. The solar panels probably were the biggest expense. Can't remember the wattage :/ [09:54] according to my broadband things could get worse [09:54] Kilos: they probably will [09:54] This week's power outages were supposedly caused by human error [09:54] arent they all [09:55] Kilos: well.. in the greater scheme of things, yes [09:55] lol [09:55] I need coffee... Been so busy haven't had a cup today [09:55] thats why my boet went to dubai [09:55] exactly [09:56] got tired of building gennys and having them started without lubrication switched on first [09:56] Maaz coffee on [09:56] * Maaz washes some mugs [09:56] Maaz: coffee please [09:56] inetpro: Righto [09:57] Kilos: that is serious repeat business [09:57] Maaz irish coffee [09:57] magespawn: Sorry... [09:57] ahh well worth a try [09:57] yeah and those armatures cost millions each [09:58] some seized and ripped the whole thing off mountings [10:00] Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! [10:04] Maaz thanks man [10:04] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [10:04] Maaz: dankie [10:04] Groot plesier inetpro my vriend [10:05] i really dont want to lose ibids [10:27] hi drussell [10:27] we got there fly and i [10:27] Kilos: Hey man, happy Friday! [10:27] you too [10:34] Kilos: drussell probably doesn't get the context, tell him what happened. [10:35] hey drussel you losing out man [10:35] lol [10:35] the fly and i got ubuntu membership after midnight last night [10:36] and they gave us sjambuks for peeps that stay away from here too long [10:38] drussell ^^ [10:38] start shaking [10:45] does he know what a sjambuk is? [10:45] he should he is from here [10:45] and maybe old enough to have felt one work [10:50] hmm... he is hiding already [10:52] :-) [10:52] hehehe [11:03] HAHAHAHA congrats to you both! [11:04] ty drussell [11:04] :D [11:05] well done Kilos :) [11:05] ty highvoltage it was only because of the support from my friends [11:06] oh you also saw the bit about sjambuks [11:06] hehe [11:12] heh, barely === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away [12:23] Nairobi GNU/Linux Users Group blog is now HTTPS-only: https://nairobilug.or.ke :D [12:23] superfly: ^^^ that was your influence. :P [12:24] stickyboy: nothing to do with me, I'm afraid! [12:24] that's tumbleweed's fault ;-) [12:24] superfly: Ah. :D [12:24] tumbleweed: HTTPS FTW. [12:24] hahaha [12:24] DEPLOY HARD CRYPTO. [12:25] break all teh dragnet surveillance. [12:25] Hey, on that note, someone needs to update the topic here... [12:25] :D [12:26] stickyboy whats wrong with our topic? [12:27] Kilos: the website url doesn't say "https" [12:27] hahaha [12:28] Details matter ;) === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa https://ubuntu-za.org || PBin: http://slexy.org/ || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || https://twitter.com/ubuntuza || Next Meeting: Tue, 24 February 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1yyBNyh [12:31] thanks stickyboy [12:32] hehe [12:32] * inetpro likes to agree on that note [12:32] stickyboy happy now? [12:32] inetpro slexy and the logs are't hhtps? [12:33] s/hhtps/https [12:33] haha [12:33] magespawn: it ain't working with the (s) [12:34] actually irclogs does works with https but [12:34] inetpro fix it [12:35] the certificate belongs to another host [12:36] oops [12:36] actually [12:37] it doesn't take you to the logs at all :-( === raywan|away is now known as raywan [12:38] oh my [12:40] so superfly do we need to restart irc clients to see the cloak or is it only visible to others [12:41] or are they still busy [12:41] Kilos: we'll have to log out and back into freenode [12:41] Kilos: I don't know if anyone has done anything yet [12:42] ty superfly i dont know how much work it is [12:42] Kilos: not much, but they might have to contact Freenode staff, so it may take a little while. Keep your eyes on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks [12:42] ty [12:46] so you guys now get an ubuntu cloak? [12:47] yeah and an email thingie too === raywan is now known as raywan|away [12:47] but thats confusing because you still use gmail etc it just then goes to ubuntu email somewhere [12:48] oh superfly you mean watch by latest members? [12:49] oh the cheeky thing says im not a member too [12:49] Kilos: it's an alias. That means that you still get e-mail from your gmail, it just forwards mail on [12:50] what is the reason for having that then please? [12:50] more security or what === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away [13:00] just now they kick me out there [13:23] wbb [13:26] superfly restart irc client [13:26] oh no [13:26] too tired to think straight now [13:28] gaan slaap. when you wake up everything will be done :-P [13:28] sjoe [13:44] hi Private_User [13:44] hi Kilos [15:29] Nairobi GNU/Linux Users Group meeting is tomorrow. [15:29] https://twitter.com/nairobilug/status/563719933654097920 [15:29] Topic: Uniting African LUGs. [16:21] Hey all [16:22] superfly: be prepared for tonight [16:22] But you probably know [16:22] :/ [16:24] oh no loadshed Squirm [16:24] Yep [16:24] im dreading it [16:24] nothing has gone off here today [16:33] Squirm yep I know [16:35] what time fly? [16:58] 8pm [16:58] We're in the same zone [16:58] ai! [16:58] Meh, don't really know what to do for this Valentines day thing that is in a week [16:59] lol [16:59] buy yourself a big box of chocolate [17:01] Buying myself stuff is easy - Just bought myself an Arduino [17:01] It's what to buy the girlfriend [17:01] Or where to take her [17:04] if you can afford it a bracelet necklace or chain swu [17:05] Squirm [17:05] Maybe I'll picnic at Silvermine [17:05] Kilos [17:05] something that doesnt disappear in 2 days [17:06] Oh right [17:06] Yeah [17:06] flowers and chocolate are a bit more on the romantic side but something theyll enjoy wearing for years is more logical imo [17:07] a nice ring also can work [17:08] and say you wanted to take her out but thast would mean sharing the prescious time you have [17:08] Would rather get something like that for a birthday though [17:08] I've decided we're picnic'ing [17:08] lol [17:08] so now I'm going to reward myself with Pizza [17:09] chat in a bit, popping out === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [17:34] wbb [17:41] sis not happy. they must be load shedding where our tv signal comes from so no 7de laan [17:43] :( [17:43] at load shedding [17:43] busy looking for solar lights now, so pricey though [17:43] yeah === raywan is now known as raywan|away [17:43] ooh, ubuntu phone launched === raywan|away is now known as raywan [17:57] mmmm [17:57] Pizza [17:58] Oh dear, laptop is on 57%, supposedly 1.5 hours left on battery [17:58] :/ [17:58] Bad move Sinjin, should have left it on charge [17:59] eish [18:00] you want to borrow my email addy [18:00] ill get it from inetpro if you do [18:00] for? [18:00] for the things you do [18:00] msdomdonner [18:01] lol i wonder how many peeps out of za know what it means [18:02] i certainly dont [18:02] and we're out [18:02] :/ [18:03] lol [18:04] meh [18:04] Load Shedding... [18:07] Closed Chrome, 3 hours on battery [18:07] damn!! [18:07] but now Vlc will munch it all [18:07] laptop kaputt [18:07] eish [18:08] inetpro: doubled my battery life my closing chromw [18:08] hangs on bios boot up, can't even go to the setup [18:09] :/ [18:12] ohi magespawn [18:12] good evening [18:15] so whats up Kilos? [18:16] waiting for ubuntu cloak still and for the moderator to mail my mail to the irc council [18:17] i forgot to first register with irc mail [18:17] and non members can mail the council directly [18:18] cant [18:18] what a twit [18:18] blame goosie [18:26] he forces me at gunpoint to multitask then when i mess up tells me one step at a time [18:26] hehe [18:27] looks like my hdd crashed or something [18:29] you can only one thing at a time, no matter how hard you try [18:29] ^do [18:29] when hdd is unplugged it boots, obviously stopping when detecting no os [18:29] oh my inetpro where is the os [18:30] oh [18:30] so the drive eats a bit of power to bootup [18:30] does it read/detect the hard drive? you can see it in the bios [18:30] get a ssd [18:31] magespawn: I think it hangs before detection of the hdd [18:31] or before displaying hdd detection [18:32] oh my goodness [18:32] thats sad inetpro [18:33] did you drop it? [18:34] now youve spoiled an utterly miserable day [18:34]