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ubottuIn ubottu, Ben64 said: !nounity is Ubuntu 12.04 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, from 14.04 and up, install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. On 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.00:54
rww!nounity01:12
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 and up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic01:12
rwwumm01:12
Jordan_U@mark #ubuntu PSGroup41 Constantly asking questions about arcane shells, refuses to explain what their end goal is.02:00
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bazhangPSGroup41> Ben64: is the command, md5sum /etc/issue, a safe command?02:17
Jordan_Ubazhang: I think that's a reasonable question. They don't understand the command, so it's reasonable to be warry of running it.02:19
Jordan_U(I wish more people thought that way)02:19
bazhangseems odd how secretive he is being02:19
Jordan_UUsing csh however, that's just insanity.02:19
Jordan_UIndeed.02:20
bazhangthe number is: 4.1002:21
bazhangif he cannot give something as simple as that, it's hard to give any kind of support at all02:26
rwwone of my professors at uni used csh and tried to get us to use it03:26
rwwcsh is odd.03:26
ubottuIn ubottu, c31r2g said: What is LTS12:25
k1l_hi ninedragon anything we can do for you?16:23
hggdhbeen idling since Feb 2nd, when a ban/mute was removed16:37
ikoniajust remove him then16:38
hggdhIdo not have direct ops access here, would rather have someone with it do the remove16:45
hggdhikonia: thank you16:46
ikoniahttp://imgur.com/4fmWv7E16:46
ikoniaoops16:47
ikoniaold pastebin buffer, sorry16:47
k1l_@mark #ubuntu Novice201y first starts discussion about ubuntu is spyware then advertises elementaryOS18:21
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k1l_<ilhami> who cares moron <ilhami> there is always #linux <ilhami> what help did I get from you anyway?18:33
k1l_after getting help the whole day :/18:33
ilhamiwho is the channel owner?18:35
ikoniathere are a team of operators18:35
ikoniathey moderate the channel18:35
ikoniathis channel contains them18:35
ikonia(check the /topic for info )18:35
ilhamiwhere is the channel owner?18:35
ikoniaplease read what I said18:35
ilhamiI dont care about operators. I asked for the channel owner18:35
ikoniathe people who maintain the channel are here in this channel18:35
ikoniathere is no "one" owner18:35
ilhamioh ok.18:35
ikoniaok - we can't help you then, please leave the channel.18:35
ilhamijust shut up ikonia. nobody woke you up18:36
hggdhah well. I wonder why they behave this way18:37
k1l_imho its: i do it my way and just dont care others or rules18:37
hggdhadd to it "I do not talk with minions, only with the master"18:39
k1l_"i am gonna buy this company and will fire you" :)18:40
hggdhheh18:40
ilhami??18:42
ilhamiwhy was I banned again?18:42
ilhamistop kicking me18:42
ikoniathen grow up18:42
ikoniayou are banned from #ubuntu18:42
ikoniatrying to evade gets you banned again18:42
ilhamievade ban?18:42
ilhamihah you banned me while I was not identified?18:42
ikoniayou are banned18:42
ikoniayou know what you are doing18:42
ikoniayou are trying to get around the ban18:42
ilhamithat's not my problem18:42
ilhamiNo I am not.18:42
ikoniaok - then please leave18:42
ilhamiI did nothing.18:42
ikoniayou are banned18:43
ikoniadon't try to join again please18:43
ilhamiunban me.18:43
ikoniano18:43
ilhamiyes18:43
ilhamiwhy not?18:43
ikonianot until your attitude and interactions change18:43
hggdh+118:43
k1l_ilhami: you are banned and you were ban evading and instantly starting to make drama again. since you seem to not want to act according to the guidelines and code of conduct you are banned. so stay away from #ubuntu18:43
ikoniawhen you want to talk politely with people - we can talk18:43
ilhamiI am polite.18:43
ilhamiyou muted me for no reason.18:43
ikoniayou are not18:43
ilhamiI usually am. Just not when you piss me off deliberately.18:44
ikoniano one is trying to annoy you18:44
ikoniahowever your attitude is not one we welcome in #ubuntu18:44
ilhamiI told you it's a bad habit that I have.18:44
ikoniano problem18:44
ilhamiI will work on it.18:44
hggdhilhami: I have seen nothing in this channel showing you as polite.18:44
ikoniahowever calling people names in pm isn't really acceptable18:44
ikoniaand hten your attitude of "don't care about ops"18:44
ilhamiOk I care about ops.18:45
ilhamiI take back that statement.18:45
ikoniayour attitude isn't one we want sadl18:45
ikoniasadly18:45
ilhamiwhat attitude?18:45
ikoniawhat I would say is read the ubuntu channel guidelines18:45
ikonia!guidelines18:45
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines18:45
ilhamiOk unban me and I will read them.18:45
ikoniatake a day or so to digest them and think about how you approach the channels18:46
ikoniacome back here and we can look at removing your ban18:46
ilhamiIt's funny. Other channels dont have that many problems with me.18:46
ikonianot really interested in the other channels18:46
ilhamiWhy do you suddenly have a problem?18:46
ilhamiIt's because you have something against me personally.18:46
ikoniano-one has a problem18:46
ikoniajust asking you to read the rules of the channels - think about it and come back to talk it through with us18:46
ikonianothing else18:46
ilhamiI will read them now18:46
ilhamiin 10 minutes you will unban me.18:47
ikoniaI'd like you to take a good few hours to digest them please18:47
ikoniaand think about how you intereact with people after reading them please.18:47
ilhamiI am a fast digester. don't worry18:47
ikoniaI'm not worried18:47
ikoniayou'll have a few hours to digest it at least18:47
ilhamiwhy a few hours?18:47
ilhamiis 20 minutes not enough?18:47
ikoniabecause I'd like you to take a few hours to digest and calm down18:47
ikoniathen approach this with a fresh attitude please.18:47
ilhamiI am down again.18:48
hggdhilhami: let me be clearer: (1) please read the guidelines; (2) wait a few hours while digesting it and our dialog here and at #ubuntu; (3) come back18:48
ilhamiI won't attack anyone as I said.18:48
ikoniaok - well then it should be easy to make clear to comply with what hggdh has requested then please.18:48
ilhamihggdh, I dont need 2-3 hours to digest a few guidelines.18:48
hggdhilhami: this is not optional.18:48
ilhamihggdh, it should be.18:48
hggdhOK. Are we done now?18:49
ikoniayes18:49
ilhamiNot really. :)18:49
hggdhilhami: please leave the channel, and return, say, tomorrow. We will try again.18:49
ikoniailhami: we are, you have the instructions on what we'd like you to do please,18:49
ilhamiI will be back in 2-3 hours18:50
ilhamithat's my last offer :)18:50
ikoniait's not a negotiation18:50
ilhamiyou said a couple of hours yourself18:50
ikoniaI did18:50
ilhamiyeah then let's stick to that.18:50
ilhamilater :)18:50
ikoniaI have no issue with that18:50
ilhamigood ikonia :) take care18:50
ikoniaplease /part the channel18:51
ikonia@mark #ubuntu-ops ilhami bad attitude, rude to people in pm, rude to people in the channel, given guidelines and come back in 2 - 3 hours to re-discuss when he knows how to use the channel18:51
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* hggdh projects no change in behaviour18:52
ikoniaas long as the attitude is gone and he at least trys to not use enter, I don't see a problem18:52
hggdhI agree18:52
ikoniaI suspect it won't change though18:52
k1l_it didnt change since 2013 when he was kicked and warned 4 times too18:53
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ilhamihello ops22:55
ilhamiikonia, can you unban me now?22:57
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