[01:12] <rww> !nounity
[01:12] <rww> umm
[02:00] <Jordan_U> @mark #ubuntu PSGroup41 Constantly asking questions about arcane shells, refuses to explain what their end goal is.
[02:17] <bazhang> PSGroup41> Ben64: is the command, md5sum /etc/issue, a safe command?
[02:19] <Jordan_U> bazhang: I think that's a reasonable question. They don't understand the command, so it's reasonable to be warry of running it.
[02:19] <Jordan_U> (I wish more people thought that way)
[02:19] <bazhang> seems odd how secretive he is being
[02:19] <Jordan_U> Using csh however, that's just insanity.
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Indeed.
[02:21] <bazhang> the number is: 4.10
[02:26] <bazhang> if he cannot give something as simple as that, it's hard to give any kind of support at all
[03:26] <rww> one of my professors at uni used csh and tried to get us to use it
[03:26] <rww> csh is odd.
[16:23] <k1l_> hi ninedragon anything we can do for you?
[16:37] <hggdh> been idling since Feb 2nd, when a ban/mute was removed
[16:38] <ikonia> just remove him then
[16:45] <hggdh> Ido not have direct ops access here, would rather have someone with it do the remove
[16:46] <hggdh> ikonia: thank you
[16:46] <ikonia> http://imgur.com/4fmWv7E
[16:47] <ikonia> oops
[16:47] <ikonia> old pastebin buffer, sorry
[18:21] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu Novice201y first starts discussion about ubuntu is spyware then advertises elementaryOS
 who cares moron <ilhami> there is always #linux <ilhami> what help did I get from you anyway?
[18:33] <k1l_> after getting help the whole day :/
[18:35] <ilhami> who is the channel owner?
[18:35] <ikonia> there are a team of operators
[18:35] <ikonia> they moderate the channel
[18:35] <ikonia> this channel contains them
[18:35] <ikonia> (check the /topic for info )
[18:35] <ilhami> where is the channel owner?
[18:35] <ikonia> please read what I said
[18:35] <ilhami> I dont care about operators. I asked for the channel owner
[18:35] <ikonia> the people who maintain the channel are here in this channel
[18:35] <ikonia> there is no "one" owner
[18:35] <ilhami> oh ok.
[18:35] <ikonia> ok - we can't help you then, please leave the channel.
[18:36] <ilhami> just shut up ikonia. nobody woke you up
[18:37] <hggdh> ah well. I wonder why they behave this way
[18:37] <k1l_> imho its: i do it my way and just dont care others or rules
[18:39] <hggdh> add to it "I do not talk with minions, only with the master"
[18:40] <k1l_> "i am gonna buy this company and will fire you" :)
[18:40] <hggdh> heh
[18:42] <ilhami> ??
[18:42] <ilhami> why was I banned again?
[18:42] <ilhami> stop kicking me
[18:42] <ikonia> then grow up
[18:42] <ikonia> you are banned from #ubuntu
[18:42] <ikonia> trying to evade gets you banned again
[18:42] <ilhami> evade ban?
[18:42] <ilhami> hah you banned me while I was not identified?
[18:42] <ikonia> you are banned
[18:42] <ikonia> you know what you are doing
[18:42] <ikonia> you are trying to get around the ban
[18:42] <ilhami> that's not my problem
[18:42] <ilhami> No I am not.
[18:42] <ikonia> ok - then please leave
[18:42] <ilhami> I did nothing.
[18:43] <ikonia> you are banned
[18:43] <ikonia> don't try to join again please
[18:43] <ilhami> unban me.
[18:43] <ikonia> no
[18:43] <ilhami> yes
[18:43] <ilhami> why not?
[18:43] <ikonia> not until your attitude and interactions change
[18:43] <hggdh> +1
[18:43] <k1l_> ilhami: you are banned and you were ban evading and instantly starting to make drama again. since you seem to not want to act according to the guidelines and code of conduct you are banned. so stay away from #ubuntu
[18:43] <ikonia> when you want to talk politely with people - we can talk
[18:43] <ilhami> I am polite.
[18:43] <ilhami> you muted me for no reason.
[18:43] <ikonia> you are not
[18:44] <ilhami> I usually am. Just not when you piss me off deliberately.
[18:44] <ikonia> no one is trying to annoy you
[18:44] <ikonia> however your attitude is not one we welcome in #ubuntu
[18:44] <ilhami> I told you it's a bad habit that I have.
[18:44] <ikonia> no problem
[18:44] <ilhami> I will work on it.
[18:44] <hggdh> ilhami: I have seen nothing in this channel showing you as polite.
[18:44] <ikonia> however calling people names in pm isn't really acceptable
[18:44] <ikonia> and hten your attitude of "don't care about ops"
[18:45] <ilhami> Ok I care about ops.
[18:45] <ilhami> I take back that statement.
[18:45] <ikonia> your attitude isn't one we want sadl
[18:45] <ikonia> sadly
[18:45] <ilhami> what attitude?
[18:45] <ikonia> what I would say is read the ubuntu channel guidelines
[18:45] <ikonia> !guidelines
[18:45] <ilhami> Ok unban me and I will read them.
[18:46] <ikonia> take a day or so to digest them and think about how you approach the channels
[18:46] <ikonia> come back here and we can look at removing your ban
[18:46] <ilhami> It's funny. Other channels dont have that many problems with me.
[18:46] <ikonia> not really interested in the other channels
[18:46] <ilhami> Why do you suddenly have a problem?
[18:46] <ilhami> It's because you have something against me personally.
[18:46] <ikonia> no-one has a problem
[18:46] <ikonia> just asking you to read the rules of the channels - think about it and come back to talk it through with us
[18:46] <ikonia> nothing else
[18:46] <ilhami> I will read them now
[18:47] <ilhami> in 10 minutes you will unban me.
[18:47] <ikonia> I'd like you to take a good few hours to digest them please
[18:47] <ikonia> and think about how you intereact with people after reading them please.
[18:47] <ilhami> I am a fast digester. don't worry
[18:47] <ikonia> I'm not worried
[18:47] <ikonia> you'll have a few hours to digest it at least
[18:47] <ilhami> why a few hours?
[18:47] <ilhami> is 20 minutes not enough?
[18:47] <ikonia> because I'd like you to take a few hours to digest and calm down
[18:47] <ikonia> then approach this with a fresh attitude please.
[18:48] <ilhami> I am down again.
[18:48] <hggdh> ilhami: let me be clearer: (1) please read the guidelines; (2) wait a few hours while digesting it and our dialog here and at #ubuntu; (3) come back
[18:48] <ilhami> I won't attack anyone as I said.
[18:48] <ikonia> ok - well then it should be easy to make clear to comply with what hggdh has requested then please.
[18:48] <ilhami> hggdh, I dont need 2-3 hours to digest a few guidelines.
[18:48] <hggdh> ilhami: this is not optional.
[18:48] <ilhami> hggdh, it should be.
[18:49] <hggdh> OK. Are we done now?
[18:49] <ikonia> yes
[18:49] <ilhami> Not really. :)
[18:49] <hggdh> ilhami: please leave the channel, and return, say, tomorrow. We will try again.
[18:49] <ikonia> ilhami: we are, you have the instructions on what we'd like you to do please,
[18:50] <ilhami> I will be back in 2-3 hours
[18:50] <ilhami> that's my last offer :)
[18:50] <ikonia> it's not a negotiation
[18:50] <ilhami> you said a couple of hours yourself
[18:50] <ikonia> I did
[18:50] <ilhami> yeah then let's stick to that.
[18:50] <ilhami> later :)
[18:50] <ikonia> I have no issue with that
[18:50] <ilhami> good ikonia :) take care
[18:51] <ikonia> please /part the channel
[18:51] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops ilhami bad attitude, rude to people in pm, rude to people in the channel, given guidelines and come back in 2 - 3 hours to re-discuss when he knows how to use the channel
[18:52]  * hggdh projects no change in behaviour
[18:52] <ikonia> as long as the attitude is gone and he at least trys to not use enter, I don't see a problem
[18:52] <hggdh> I agree
[18:52] <ikonia> I suspect it won't change though
[18:53] <k1l_> it didnt change since 2013 when he was kicked and warned 4 times too
[22:55] <ilhami> hello ops
[22:57] <ilhami> ikonia, can you unban me now?