[04:12] <mapp> hi all
[04:12] <mapp> daftykins the pi2 being able to run win10 is cool
[04:12] <daftykins> it probably won't be the win10 you expect
[04:13] <mapp> hm
[04:15] <daftykins> think i read something about the idea it'll be like Windows RT
[04:23] <mapp> ah
[04:24] <mapp> whats the RT stand for..not realtime;D
[04:24] <mapp> pi2 can run ubuntu too?
[04:24] <daftykins> no idea. just doesn't run standard apps i think
[04:24] <daftykins> it'll be a compatible ARM version this time yeah
[04:24] <daftykins> #ubuntu-arm
[04:24] <mapp> which is albeit same as normal ubuntu no?>
[04:25] <mapp> just diff arch?
[04:25] <daftykins> yeah, ARM
[04:26] <daftykins> first Pi was based on a broadcom SoC that was v6 API based i think, so it was no-go - whereas the 2 is v7 based
[04:31] <mapp> be cool running ubuntu on a pi
[04:31] <mapp> you gonna try it?
[04:35] <daftykins> i don't own one
[04:36] <daftykins> i can spin up any little machines i want as VMs atop my file server :)
[04:36] <daftykins> that already runs 24x7
[04:37] <mapp> i jist think its neat considering how small the pi is
[04:37] <mapp> :D
[04:42] <daftykins> and how reliable... oh wait
[04:42] <daftykins> :)
[04:44] <mapp> pffft
[04:45] <daftykins> hahaha
[04:46] <mapp> only 1 of them..others always good
[04:46] <mapp> nd even the one that acts strange..my openVPN server runs stable
[10:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> morning mammals
[10:28] <brobostigon> morning zmoylan-pi
[16:14] <mapp> hi;]
[16:18] <penguin42>  [ho
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> diddly oh
[17:58] <popey> evening
[18:00]  * zmoylan-pi peeks outsides and confirms it is indeed evening...
[18:15] <shauno> hm.  it's dark and grey here.  which really only tells me it's not july yet
[18:17] <zmoylan-pi> you live in ireland... it can be dark and grey at any time. :-)
[19:03] <MooDoo> evening all
[19:12] <brobostigon> evening MooDoo
[19:17] <daftykins> http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/05/russian-stop-a-douchebag-movement-video/
[19:17] <daftykins> wow, can't get much of a break as a pedestrian over there
[19:19] <zmoylan-pi> 50,000 dashcams can't be wrong
[19:22] <daftykins> that's almost the population of Guernsey
[19:22] <zmoylan-pi> sheep or humans?
[19:23] <daftykins> i don't think we're all that big for sheep, cows we're famous for :)
[19:23] <daftykins> heard of the Guernsey Gold?
[19:25] <shauno> I honestly have no mental picture how big most the channel islands are.  I guess I just picture french-er versions of the isle of wight
[19:26] <daftykins> :)
[19:26] <daftykins> IoW is pretty big compared to us, i think it's around 3x the size of my island
[19:26] <daftykins> 26 square miles i think for mine 0o
[19:28] <shauno> (that said I do love the isle of wight.  although I'm pro-tunnel, so most the caulkheads would want to hang me)
[19:28] <zmoylan-pi> cows are quite popular on aran islands in ireland.  after a year starving on near barren rock you bring them to mainland and they eat themselves stupid
[19:29] <daftykins> what's pro tunnel?
[19:29] <zmoylan-pi> they want to link island to mainland via tunnel?
[19:29] <shauno> some do, some don't
[19:30] <daftykins> in a local news program from the BBC i caught the other day, Jersey is claiming a tourism drop of 60% i think they said
[19:30] <shauno> I think it'd be a fantastic idea, because people can actually go get jobs on the mainland instead of all leaving once they leave school
[19:30] <daftykins> indeed!
[19:30] <daftykins> that's the biggest problem about the islands really
[19:31] <shauno> but some of the more insular folk really distrust the mainland
[19:31] <daftykins> e.g. here the government subsidises students going to Uni, then they leave!
[19:31] <daftykins> the UK gov is always trying to interfere with us, that's for sure
[19:32] <shauno> from what I"ve read, it seems to be old people genuinely believing that there's no drugs on the island, and dealers haven't figure out how the ferry works
[19:32] <daftykins> lol
[19:32] <zmoylan-pi> what they don't grow grass on the island?
[19:34] <shauno> I actually knew an old lady in newport that grew weed in the greenhouse.  but had no idea what it was
[19:34] <shauno> apparently the whole thing ended up with dead rabbits
[19:34] <daftykins> O_O
[19:35] <zmoylan-pi> dead happy rabbits...
[19:35] <daftykins> first rabbits in space
[19:36] <shauno> the details seem to vary from one family member to the next.  some suspect uncle rod was growing them there, others don't believe it ..
[19:36] <zmoylan-pi> and cats, foxes and dogs with serious munchies
[19:47] <MooDoo> lots of people don't realise what they are growing lol
[21:21] <daftykins> preliminary synthetic benchmark data, testing DirectX 12's new optimisations for reducing CPU bottlenecks in graphics with Windows 10 and nvidia / AMD graphics cards: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8962/71450.png
[21:21] <daftykins> a GTX 980 improves from 26fps under DirectX 11, versus 67fps with 12
[21:36]  * hamitron just now needs the GTX 980
[21:48]  * MartijnVdS has a R9 290
[22:00] <moreati> gawd bless get_iplayer
[22:00] <popey> yes indeedy!
[22:00] <directhex> mono for ARM is a real thing now. packages for debian/ubuntu arm!
[22:02] <popey> Sweet!
[22:02] <shauno> hm.  maybe one day unity?  KSP on the pi ;)
[22:12] <daftykins> it stopped working for me the other day 0o
[22:13] <daftykins> couldn't even fetch a program list with the latest build
[22:14] <daftykins> would someone mind testing the speed they can pull from my home hosting, briefly?
[22:14] <daftykins> i shall PM a link if anyone is willing :)
[22:14] <moreati> daftykins: sure
[22:14] <daftykins> thanks!
[22:15] <daftykins> seems our pals across the pond are getting 10% my potential today 0o
[22:28] <directhex> shauno: that's Complicated(tm)
[22:28] <shauno> ;)
[22:29] <shauno> I was mostly kidding anyway, KSP brings my laptop to its knees, so the pi .. may need a few more revisions
[22:56] <shauno> I just realised I accidentally bought decaf coffee
[23:11] <daftykins> ooh-err
[23:19] <zmoylan-pi> you'll need to brew it all at once and distill it to remove the water till you can get 1 cup with enough belt to keep you going :-)
[23:28] <shauno> I think maybe I'll just be really antisocial and grind some beans instead
[23:28] <shauno> and use this stuff to poison someone at work
[23:29] <penguin42> shauno: Give it to your colleagues just before a meeting that you need to win, erm you know....
[23:30] <shauno> I don't get invited to meetings anymore :(
[23:33] <penguin42> hehe you also point out the really obvious dumb things everyone else is saying?
[23:33] <shauno> I have a small issue with bluntness
[23:34] <penguin42> nod
[23:34] <shauno> and our product manager keeps trying to "blind us with technobabble", but lacks the babble
[23:35] <penguin42> shauno: It's when you can identify specific dilberts for each meeting that you know you're in trouble
[23:35] <shauno> plus I used to work alongside him on another project, so I treat him a lot more 'familiar' than his position expects
[23:35] <shauno> it's all just a really bad combination, really
[23:37] <shauno> so we have some odd truce going on, where I join in his bi-weekly calls with india, in return for staying out of the rest of his meetings
[23:38] <penguin42> haha
[23:42] <shauno> the sad thing is I think I'm meant to be trying to ally with him
[23:42] <shauno> because I want redundancy, and I think his ship is sinking
[23:42] <shauno> it's all weird :)
[23:45] <daftykins> shauno: erk, as in you're not allowed to provide input, but you're allowed to help him translate the foreign meetings?
[23:46] <shauno> no no no.  I want to prevent him translating such meetings
[23:46] <shauno> having him translate nerd->manager->nerd is incredibly frustrating, because he has absolutely no idea what's he's talking about
[23:47] <shauno> eg, I found out our last 5 "security updates" were actually 5 failed attempts at the same update
[23:47] <daftykins> >_<
[23:47] <shauno> small details that are completely missed when they've been translated to waffle and back
[23:47] <daftykins> :D
[23:48]  * penguin42 wonders if shauno works for a tla
[23:48] <daftykins> "the website is down" -> "the customer facing portion of the product has suffered a misalignment"
[23:48] <daftykins> sorry, i tried my best from thinking for 20 seconds but i just can't speak management
[23:48] <shauno> that would actually be an improvement
[23:49] <shauno> this is something I've been begging for.  at the moment our system is completely monolithic
[23:49] <shauno> if one portion has an issue, the whole thing falls over
[23:50] <daftykins> :(
[23:51] <shauno> but yeah.  coughing loudly whenever he's completely wrong seems to be my main role lately.  it's not cool
[23:52] <shauno> but it does get me out of almost all meetings :)