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* belkinsa may be late to the event16:01
belkinsaSome how my parents want me to come to lunch with them.16:01
drkokandy_Have fun16:09
drkokandy_We can get started around 1 ish & you can join after that16:10
=== drkokandy_ is now known as drkokandy
belkinsaI know, but I'm the organizer!  I have to be here on to time get everyone settled.17:46
belkinsaAnyways, I will be ready in 10 minutes.17:46
belkinsaWho is all here for the UGJ?17:58
aikidoukeo/17:58
aikidoukeI am17:58
belkinsaWe will wait 5 minutes for the late comers.17:59
aikidoukeok17:59
belkinsao/ (Read: hey) lcnets18:03
lcnetsHey,  any tips on how to install 15.04 it simply won't work for me18:04
belkinsaYou don't need to install, you can just run from the lIve CD.18:05
belkinsaWait, where did you get your copy?18:05
aikidoukeare you getting an error message when you boot?18:05
lcnetsYeah18:05
belkinsaDid you get the ISO from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/18:06
jenni[ Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Daily Build ] - https://j.mp/1IpvPe918:06
aikidoukeok, what is your error that you get?18:06
* drkokandy is here just a few mins late (sorry!)18:06
belkinsaIt's cool.  We were waiting for the late comers and get set up for what we will be doing.18:07
lcnetsDrat just second18:07
belkinsaSo, what are you guys working on for the Jam>18:09
aikidoukei am going to be playing with systemd18:10
belkinsahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/harvest for me18:10
jenni[ Bugs : harvest ] - https://j.mp/1IpxjFq18:10
aikidoukei couldnt find any ubuntu systemd test cases, so I grabbed these from Fedora18:10
aikidoukehttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_systemd_test_cases18:11
jenni[ Category:Package systemd test cases - FedoraProject ] - https://j.mp/1Ipxoc418:11
belkinsaMore like trying to see if I can do some coding for it18:11
lcnetsWhat format I use if running from USB,  I used fat32 and I think that might be the issue18:11
aikidoukelcnets: are you creating the usb on a linux system or other?18:12
lcnetsLinux18:13
aikidoukei cant remember formatting a stick in a while, but probably should be ext418:13
aikidoukesudo fdisk /dev/sd(whatever your stick shows up as)18:13
aikidouked (delete all the partitions)18:14
aikidoukei should  say delete each partition with d18:14
aikidoukebe VERY careful you have the write device and not your hard drive18:14
aikidouken (new partition)18:14
drkokandyOr, if you want to try an easy GUI way to make a new Linux USB, I usually just use Gparted to delete & reformat and unetbootin to add the iso ;-)18:15
aikidoukei think hitting enter should get through all the defaults18:15
aikidouke(as drkokandy says) :)18:15
aikidoukelet me know which way you go so I dont type out everything18:15
drkokandybelkinsa: is there a preference what we work on? Was the goal to have us all work on the same thing or just to have us all work at the same time?18:16
lcnetsOkay I should be able to get it though it might be a bit before I can get it. I running behind so am out of the house currently18:16
belkinsaThe latter, so we can have fun working on stuff.18:17
belkinsaIt's more to get the LoCo doing something together.18:17
belkinsaAnd I don't mind if we end this early or go later.18:19
drkokandygotcha18:19
drkokandyin that case, I might continue working on these Lubuntu 14.04.2 issues18:19
belkinsaAlright, I don't mind it.18:19
drkokandyat least for a bit and then I might join in something else18:20
* belkinsa nods18:20
drkokandyif anyone has questions or needs help with launchpad, I've been doing some bug work for a little while and am happy to walk you through it in the IRC or via hangouts or something18:20
Unit193drkokandy: .2 has really hit a speed bump, the release team is working on it considering it's not an isolated issue to one of the flavors.18:21
Unit193I'm also here for random technical questions.18:22
drkokandygotcha Unit193 - what I'm doing right now is trying to make a diff of the packages in the amd64 alternate ISOs (.1 vs .2) as requested by wxl18:22
Unit193Mmmm, fun times.18:23
Unit193The alt install is so slow.18:23
eslusheraka lcnets18:31
Unit193Heh.18:32
eslusherproper format for usb?18:33
belkinsaJust use the USB installer that Ubuntu has18:33
Unit193You can dd it, use unetbootin, if you have Windows you can use Linux Live USB creator.18:33
Unit193Meh.18:33
eslusherhasn't worrked18:33
belkinsaStartup Disk Creator  is what I mean18:33
Unit193That's normally broken. :P18:34
eslusheragain didn't work18:34
belkinsaOr PendriveLinux for Windows.18:34
Unit193eslusher: Oh, are you live booting from 14.04?18:34
Unit193Erm, I mean, have that installed?18:34
eslusherdual boot from 14.0418:34
Unit193OK, so if you install grml-rescueboot, you can just drop the ISO into /boot/grml/ and run  sudo update-grub  to add the ISO to the boot menu.18:35
eslusherI think I just found some info on it18:35
aikidoukequestion...In ubuntu is running "systemctl start some.service" supposed to also enable the service as "systemctl enable some.service" ?18:37
Unit193I don't believe so.18:38
aikidouke:)18:38
aikidoukeI ask because when I start a service, it does seem to enable it18:38
Unit193Generally speaking, you can still use  service foo restart  to restart it under systemd.18:38
Unit193Ah, I could be wrong then I suppose.18:38
aikidoukewhen I run systemctl enable some.service I get...hang on18:38
Unit193I'm already presuming here that systemd is in fact your init.18:39
aikidoukeFailed to execute operation: No such file or directory18:39
aikidoukecorrect18:39
aikidoukesystemctl status some.service after starting the service says the service is enabled and running18:40
aikidoukey18:41
* aikidouke oops18:41
* drkokandy does that all the time18:41
aikidoukelol...I've been trying out spectrwm for the past week. I really like it when Im work with text18:42
aikidoukeand even using firefox isnt bad from keyboard18:43
aikidoukebut i get ahead of myself some18:43
aikidoukeanyway18:43
aikidoukeI would expect systemd to tell me that if I start a service it isnt enabled18:43
eslushererror on boot is gfxboot.c32 not a COM32R image18:43
aikidoukeuntil I enable it18:43
aikidoukeso should i report this as a systemd bug?18:44
belkinsaYes, but check if there is one about your issue first18:46
aikidoukeok :)18:48
* aikidouke away for a few18:51
drkokandyeslusher: what happens if at that error you type "live" (without quotes)18:52
Unit193aikidouke: Same guys that make that also make xombrero, a great browser.18:53
Unit193aikidouke: It tends to want to be smarter than you.18:54
eslusherdidn't find any help, but.  hit TAB which showed some options and chose live-install...now proceeding with install18:54
aikidoukeUnit193: never heard of it. I will definitely check it out19:01
Unit193"In addition to providing a familiar mouse-based interface like other web browsers, it offers a set of vi-like keyboard commands for users who prefer to keep their hands on their keyboard."19:02
aikidoukewoah...thats...nice!19:03
Unit193It's pretty basic, but I use http://sigma.unit193.net/configs/xombrero.conf19:06
aikidoukesaving that link for later...thanks19:19
Unit193So you've got a major upgrade, moving from utopic to vivid with spectrwm.19:23
lion{at}workgreetings ohio from over seas ;)19:26
belkinsao/ lion{at}work, want to join us for bug testing?19:26
lion{at}workbelkinsa: actually I'm in the middle of my shift here in RL life19:28
lion{at}workand I'm not that good in bug fixing ;)19:28
* lion{at}work is learning to use kdenlive at the moment19:28
aikidoukeoh? I havent read up on that...19:32
belkinsaBefore I forget, can you guys share stories of what you have done today with me so I can post that on my blog?19:33
belkinsaBut it's your choice to do so, though.19:33
aikidoukebelkinsa: email or ?19:36
belkinsaE-mail, yes or PM19:36
belkinsabelkinsa@ubuntu.com is mine19:36
eslusherI finanly have 15.04 up and running19:42
belkinsa\o/19:42
eslusherwhat a pain19:42
belkinsaBah, Ubuntu for the Phones/Tablet is still useless for me,19:43
Unit193I'm actually at my last computer *not* on 15.04 right now...19:44
drkokandyI usually stay LTS for computers I use actively. I do experiment with the development branch on two, but in separate partitions19:47
Unit193But so much stuff is broken in the LTS.19:51
drkokandylike what? I don't have anything breaking on me in daily use in the LTS... my home server is even running precise (I know. too lazy. I'll get to it eventually.) - and it's still doing just great19:56
belkinsadrkokandy is right, I had no issues with LTS's.19:56
belkinsaHow are you guys doing?20:07
aikidoukefine so far20:09
aikidouketimedatectl and hostnamectl work as expected20:10
drkokandygood. finished that first thing. marking a lot of old untouched lubuntu bugs with insufficient info incomplete while retesting an old confirmed bug on modern versions20:10
belkinsaThat's good to hear.  It's the same with Harvest, bug wise.20:10
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belkinsaI need to go, but I would like to thank everyone who come and helped.  You guys can take it until 4 or later, if you want.  And for those who want to send in their story, you can send it to belkinsa@ubuntu.com by Sunday, Feb 8th at 11:55 PM.20:40
aikidoukesounds good...bye!20:41
Unit193drkokandy: Well, different uses and different package needs.  gcalcli is broken in trusty, back before trusty even debian-keyring was too old and non-functional, python-parsedatetime is broken in trusty, and random others I can't think of off the top of my head.22:27
Unit193(I could pull up more, but not really needed.)  Of course I have trusty (or Debian) on the server, but not in mint condition there either.22:27
drkokandymakes sense - I probably have a different set of needs than you do. (I don't even recognize 2 of those 3 packages).  I just know I don't remember noticing anything broken on the LTS versions that prevents me from doing the things that I do22:30
Unit193Which honestly is great.  The only Lubuntu computer that I manage I left on Trusty because I didn't want to have to deal with it, but that's supplimented by my own archive and PPA.22:32
Unit193Hrm, need to find a way to get origin from apt/dpkg without synaptic.23:42

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