[16:01] * belkinsa may be late to the event [16:01] Some how my parents want me to come to lunch with them. [16:09] Have fun [16:10] We can get started around 1 ish & you can join after that === drkokandy_ is now known as drkokandy [17:46] I know, but I'm the organizer! I have to be here on to time get everyone settled. [17:46] Anyways, I will be ready in 10 minutes. [17:58] Who is all here for the UGJ? [17:58] o/ [17:58] I am [17:59] We will wait 5 minutes for the late comers. [17:59] ok [18:03] o/ (Read: hey) lcnets [18:04] Hey, any tips on how to install 15.04 it simply won't work for me [18:05] You don't need to install, you can just run from the lIve CD. [18:05] Wait, where did you get your copy? [18:05] are you getting an error message when you boot? [18:05] Yeah [18:06] Did you get the ISO from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [18:06] [ Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Daily Build ] - https://j.mp/1IpvPe9 [18:06] ok, what is your error that you get? [18:06] * drkokandy is here just a few mins late (sorry!) [18:07] It's cool. We were waiting for the late comers and get set up for what we will be doing. [18:07] Drat just second [18:09] So, what are you guys working on for the Jam> [18:10] i am going to be playing with systemd [18:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/harvest for me [18:10] [ Bugs : harvest ] - https://j.mp/1IpxjFq [18:10] i couldnt find any ubuntu systemd test cases, so I grabbed these from Fedora [18:11] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_systemd_test_cases [18:11] [ Category:Package systemd test cases - FedoraProject ] - https://j.mp/1Ipxoc4 [18:11] More like trying to see if I can do some coding for it [18:11] What format I use if running from USB, I used fat32 and I think that might be the issue [18:12] lcnets: are you creating the usb on a linux system or other? [18:13] Linux [18:13] i cant remember formatting a stick in a while, but probably should be ext4 [18:13] sudo fdisk /dev/sd(whatever your stick shows up as) [18:14] d (delete all the partitions) [18:14] i should say delete each partition with d [18:14] be VERY careful you have the write device and not your hard drive [18:14] n (new partition) [18:15] Or, if you want to try an easy GUI way to make a new Linux USB, I usually just use Gparted to delete & reformat and unetbootin to add the iso ;-) [18:15] i think hitting enter should get through all the defaults [18:15] (as drkokandy says) :) [18:15] let me know which way you go so I dont type out everything [18:16] belkinsa: is there a preference what we work on? Was the goal to have us all work on the same thing or just to have us all work at the same time? [18:16] Okay I should be able to get it though it might be a bit before I can get it. I running behind so am out of the house currently [18:17] The latter, so we can have fun working on stuff. [18:17] It's more to get the LoCo doing something together. [18:19] And I don't mind if we end this early or go later. [18:19] gotcha [18:19] in that case, I might continue working on these Lubuntu 14.04.2 issues [18:19] Alright, I don't mind it. [18:20] at least for a bit and then I might join in something else [18:20] * belkinsa nods [18:20] if anyone has questions or needs help with launchpad, I've been doing some bug work for a little while and am happy to walk you through it in the IRC or via hangouts or something [18:21] drkokandy: .2 has really hit a speed bump, the release team is working on it considering it's not an isolated issue to one of the flavors. [18:22] I'm also here for random technical questions. [18:22] gotcha Unit193 - what I'm doing right now is trying to make a diff of the packages in the amd64 alternate ISOs (.1 vs .2) as requested by wxl [18:23] Mmmm, fun times. [18:23] The alt install is so slow. [18:31] aka lcnets [18:32] Heh. [18:33] proper format for usb? [18:33] Just use the USB installer that Ubuntu has [18:33] You can dd it, use unetbootin, if you have Windows you can use Linux Live USB creator. [18:33] Meh. [18:33] hasn't worrked [18:33] Startup Disk Creator is what I mean [18:34] That's normally broken. :P [18:34] again didn't work [18:34] Or PendriveLinux for Windows. [18:34] eslusher: Oh, are you live booting from 14.04? [18:34] Erm, I mean, have that installed? [18:34] dual boot from 14.04 [18:35] OK, so if you install grml-rescueboot, you can just drop the ISO into /boot/grml/ and run sudo update-grub to add the ISO to the boot menu. [18:35] I think I just found some info on it [18:37] question...In ubuntu is running "systemctl start some.service" supposed to also enable the service as "systemctl enable some.service" ? [18:38] I don't believe so. [18:38] :) [18:38] I ask because when I start a service, it does seem to enable it [18:38] Generally speaking, you can still use service foo restart to restart it under systemd. [18:38] Ah, I could be wrong then I suppose. [18:38] when I run systemctl enable some.service I get...hang on [18:39] I'm already presuming here that systemd is in fact your init. [18:39] Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory [18:39] correct [18:40] systemctl status some.service after starting the service says the service is enabled and running [18:41] y [18:41] * aikidouke oops [18:41] * drkokandy does that all the time [18:42] lol...I've been trying out spectrwm for the past week. I really like it when Im work with text [18:43] and even using firefox isnt bad from keyboard [18:43] but i get ahead of myself some [18:43] anyway [18:43] I would expect systemd to tell me that if I start a service it isnt enabled [18:43] error on boot is gfxboot.c32 not a COM32R image [18:43] until I enable it [18:44] so should i report this as a systemd bug? [18:46] Yes, but check if there is one about your issue first [18:48] ok :) [18:51] * aikidouke away for a few [18:52] eslusher: what happens if at that error you type "live" (without quotes) [18:53] aikidouke: Same guys that make that also make xombrero, a great browser. [18:54] aikidouke: It tends to want to be smarter than you. [18:54] didn't find any help, but. hit TAB which showed some options and chose live-install...now proceeding with install [19:01] Unit193: never heard of it. I will definitely check it out [19:02] "In addition to providing a familiar mouse-based interface like other web browsers, it offers a set of vi-like keyboard commands for users who prefer to keep their hands on their keyboard." [19:03] woah...thats...nice! [19:06] It's pretty basic, but I use http://sigma.unit193.net/configs/xombrero.conf [19:19] saving that link for later...thanks [19:23] So you've got a major upgrade, moving from utopic to vivid with spectrwm. [19:26] greetings ohio from over seas ;) [19:26] o/ lion{at}work, want to join us for bug testing? [19:28] belkinsa: actually I'm in the middle of my shift here in RL life [19:28] and I'm not that good in bug fixing ;) [19:28] * lion{at}work is learning to use kdenlive at the moment [19:32] oh? I havent read up on that... [19:33] Before I forget, can you guys share stories of what you have done today with me so I can post that on my blog? [19:33] But it's your choice to do so, though. [19:36] belkinsa: email or ? [19:36] E-mail, yes or PM [19:36] belkinsa@ubuntu.com is mine [19:42] I finanly have 15.04 up and running [19:42] \o/ [19:42] what a pain [19:43] Bah, Ubuntu for the Phones/Tablet is still useless for me, [19:44] I'm actually at my last computer *not* on 15.04 right now... [19:47] I usually stay LTS for computers I use actively. I do experiment with the development branch on two, but in separate partitions [19:51] But so much stuff is broken in the LTS. [19:56] like what? I don't have anything breaking on me in daily use in the LTS... my home server is even running precise (I know. too lazy. I'll get to it eventually.) - and it's still doing just great [19:56] drkokandy is right, I had no issues with LTS's. [20:07] How are you guys doing? [20:09] fine so far [20:10] timedatectl and hostnamectl work as expected [20:10] good. finished that first thing. marking a lot of old untouched lubuntu bugs with insufficient info incomplete while retesting an old confirmed bug on modern versions [20:10] That's good to hear. It's the same with Harvest, bug wise. === belkinsa changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-oh to: Ubuntu Ohio via IRC | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam | Severe Weather Alerts in ##weather-us-oh | Verified until 2015-11-19 [20:40] I need to go, but I would like to thank everyone who come and helped. You guys can take it until 4 or later, if you want. And for those who want to send in their story, you can send it to belkinsa@ubuntu.com by Sunday, Feb 8th at 11:55 PM. [20:41] sounds good...bye! [22:27] drkokandy: Well, different uses and different package needs. gcalcli is broken in trusty, back before trusty even debian-keyring was too old and non-functional, python-parsedatetime is broken in trusty, and random others I can't think of off the top of my head. [22:27] (I could pull up more, but not really needed.) Of course I have trusty (or Debian) on the server, but not in mint condition there either. [22:30] makes sense - I probably have a different set of needs than you do. (I don't even recognize 2 of those 3 packages). I just know I don't remember noticing anything broken on the LTS versions that prevents me from doing the things that I do [22:32] Which honestly is great. The only Lubuntu computer that I manage I left on Trusty because I didn't want to have to deal with it, but that's supplimented by my own archive and PPA. [23:42] Hrm, need to find a way to get origin from apt/dpkg without synaptic.