=== raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [04:52] w0000000t [04:52] 'ubuntu/member/kilos' === raywan is now known as raywan|away [05:09] good morning all [05:10] theblazehen ping [05:58] hi Xethron === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [07:34] Maaz: tell Kilos look at your cloak [07:34] superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [08:21] haha superfly [08:21] [06:52:41] w0000000t [08:21] [Saturday 07 February 2015] [06:52:50] 'ubuntu/member/kilos' [08:21] first thing i saw this morning [08:22] just done my bit for loadshedding for the day i hope [08:22] greetings everyone [08:23] quite an honour methings. under 1300 in the worls [08:24] methinks as well [08:24] world [08:24] sjoe [08:27] also looked at the email thing but thats a major mission [09:09] help [09:10] hehe [09:10] what theme do i choose for a wordpress blog [09:12] no frills just fast and snappy [09:14] Kilos: congratulations sir! [09:14] ty my pro [09:14] no luck with hdd yet? [09:16] no, will just have to wait for Monday, log a call and hope for the best that they will have a new one available for me [09:17] actually with a lappy having its own battery you can try for a ssd hey? [09:17] with luck theyll bite [09:17] Kilos: why not use Nicola? [09:17] then it will really fly [09:18] nicola for what? [09:18] learn from our experience and build your own [09:18] build my own what? [09:19] Morning [09:19] again you missing the point [09:19] your own site [09:19] hi Squirm [09:19] whew inetpro that will have to wait a while [09:19] this whole ubuntu trip has me digging in everywhere now [09:20] you have time [09:20] looking through members names with blogs i found neelsie [09:20] inetpro: I'm trying to get him to learn python, you need to get in line [09:20] rofl [09:20] Squirm: ai! [09:21] oh Squirm you been missing out man [09:21] ive been promoted. im a delegate now [09:21] Nice Kilos [09:21] if i need something in python i delegate the job to someone with brains [09:21] Squirm: when are you applying? [09:21] But uh... What does a delegate do? [09:22] hehe [09:22] inetpro: to what? [09:22] membership [09:22] we need members Squirm [09:22] I was a member [09:22] lots [09:23] ai! [09:23] Uh, I think my Ubuntu membership expired last week actually :/ [09:23] I got so annoyed with the daily email reminders that I purposefully left it :/ [09:23] easy to renew [09:23] just do it! [09:23] yes just do it [09:23] 7 days till your membership expires [09:23] now is good [09:24] 6 days till your membership expires [09:24] 5 days till your membership expires [09:24] 4 days till your membership expires [09:24] You get my point [09:24] isnt that ubuntu za membership [09:24] Where? [09:24] Kilos: I think so [09:24] we are talking about official ubuntu membershaip [09:24] your own fault, because you didn't click one button with the first notice [09:26] see our friend is still here inetpro ? [09:26] the heavy spark [09:26] so lekker to see old nicks return [09:26] haha, you mean highvoltage? [09:26] yeah [09:27] * Kilos waves to him [09:27] inetpro are you running from a live stick [09:27] maybe he can even help us to drag morgs and craig back in here [09:27] an install stick [09:27] that would be great [09:28] answer man [09:28] grrr [09:28] actually am running on my mobile now [09:29] anyway when you run from stick is it a live install stick? [09:29] yep [09:29] ai! [09:29] all i taught you you still know nothing [09:29] haha [09:29] hehe [09:30] do like my pc repair stick and install kde on the stick with all your tools and apps already installed [09:31] then you can boot from any pc with all your system working [09:31] ai! ek sukkel darem [09:31] in order for me to run from stick I have to unscrew and remove the hdd again [09:31] haha you going to hand in the whole thing [09:32] maybe they give you a new one [09:33] everything I need for emergency maintenance at the office is on the release iso [09:33] clever [09:33] almost [09:34] still think my stick is better, fully working os on a stick [09:35] Cool, member of Ubuntu-za again [09:35] dont start arguing now strydom [09:35] Kilos: where else do you need me> [09:35] ? [09:35] well done Squirm [09:35] superfly, Kilos: BTW, your email address is not yet operational [09:35] ai! [09:35] thats a major job inetpro [09:35] Squirm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [09:36] you are actually good on that fone hey inetpro [09:36] Kilos: major job? [09:36] inetpro: I've signed the Ubuntu thing on Launchpad? Does that make me official? [09:36] yeah you have to go in all over the place and change settings [09:36] with us only Squirm [09:37] Code of Conduct [09:37] That's it [09:37] I don't need to be an Ubuntu member... [09:37] only under 1300 official members world wide [09:37] we as a loco need more members [09:37] I don't like what Ubuntu has done to it's UI, so I stil to Mint [09:37] oh come now Squirm, let's get that noddy badge as well [09:38] thats fine [09:38] lol [09:38] oooo this is a good day [09:38] sudo eina off [09:38] doesn't mean you have to agree with everything canonical [09:39] I'll just stick here for now [09:39] It's just Unity I don't like [09:39] Squirm: we want that phone man [09:39] inetpro: what phone? [09:39] thats fine Squirm it is a major job and lots of stress [09:40] ubuntu phone [09:40] they will send one if we have enough members [09:40] if we have more members we stand a chance to get the Ubuntu Phone [09:42] inetpro wont you approach the namibia loco for me please [09:42] All 70 odd of us? [09:42] one only Squirm [09:43] So who gets it? [09:43] Kilos: not now [09:43] well duh not today no man [09:44] Squirm i think it should go to someone thats into dev work for starters [09:44] Squirm: superfly will kill to get it first [09:44] i think the idea behind giving a phone is to get expert feedback [09:44] i think the fly is the right person among us right now [09:45] pity david isnt here anymore that was his forte hey [09:45] the lion thinker also is very keen on doing a review [09:45] where is the maths guy [09:45] grrr [09:46] grrremble [09:46] how much will we all have to donate monthly and for how long to buy one [09:47] haha, /me will wait and see [09:48] Hmm [09:48] yeah me too [09:48] Power goes out in 10min :/ [09:49] * inetpro happy to see the phone being released in Europe [09:49] eish hows your battery Squirm [09:49] Full [09:49] clever lad [10:07] hi Tonberry [10:07] hi [10:12] yay! load shedding again! [10:12] superfly: indeed [10:12] Squirm: got lunch organised? [10:12] I'm bored [10:12] i did my bit earlier [10:12] superfly: nope [10:12] Squirm: you can look after my kids - that'll keep you from being bored :-P [10:12] Our PnP has a geni [10:12] rofl [10:13] I'm not ready to put my self in that position yet :P [10:13] we just got home from shopping [10:13] kids kan be fun Squirm [10:14] its when they are teenagers and know everything it gets difficult [10:14] Yeah - Got myself a pizza from The Toad before it went out last night [10:14] Kilos: your kids were clearly easy :-P my eldest is 5 and he already thinks he knows everything [10:14] lol [10:14] Squirm: how was it? I've never gotten food there [10:15] i walked softly and carried a big stick [10:15] The pizza's are good, I've been told I shouldn't get anything else though [10:15] They have a wood burning pizza oven [10:15] Kilos: I do that anyways [10:15] nice! [10:15] lol [10:15] I would still ike to try their other food though [10:15] Squirm: what are their prices like? [10:15] I paid R85 for my pizza [10:16] Squirm: the st elmos at the pnp centre in tokai/blue route has a wood fired pizza oven [10:16] Good zie [10:16] s/zie/size [10:16] I'll have a look there next time [10:16] they pretty much only do takeaways [10:17] but their pizza is good and they have peppermint pudding which is delicious [10:17] Bella's was good, but I don't enjoy them anymore, I think something has changed [10:17] we haven't had anything from them in years [10:17] mrs_fly really likes the deep-pan pizzas from scooters in FH though [10:18] Yeah, want to try them. Bit far though :/ [10:18] they deliver [10:19] hi Private_User [10:19] Hmmm [10:19] hi Kilos [10:19] Hey Private_User [10:19] hi Squirm [10:20] we just got power back after load shedding [10:20] superfly: Have a look at The Toad's pizza's [10:20] 2 hours load shedding [10:20] Private_User: we've just started [10:20] wondering who is next [10:20] lol [10:20] we had 2 1/2 this morning [10:20] where are you based Private_User? [10:20] ok guess you answered my question Squirm [10:20] 8 to 10.30 [10:20] in KZN [10:21] Ah - Cape Town [10:21] where in KZN? [10:21] pta [10:23] Tongaat [10:23] next to Balito [10:23] or just before Balito if you driving from durban to Balito [10:23] I know where it is [10:24] moved from KZN Midlands to Cpt a few months ago [10:24] ah cool [10:24] tongaat, I've been there [10:25] oh hi superfly [10:25] sugar peeps [10:25] cool stuff [10:25] years ago [10:25] that is correct where all the Sugar comes from [10:25] hehe [10:25] Yeah - I've been there [10:25] and in 2013 we were up in port shepstone, and went to visit magespawn in hluhluwe [10:26] yeah and I am very close to the beach actually have a lekker view of the ocean from where I stay [10:26] have friends in Ballito [10:26] and Zinkwazi [10:26] superfly: my girlfriend actually lives in Port Shepstone [10:26] Nice Private_User [10:26] was actually thinking of going to the beach when the power went off cause the weather is lekker but decided the sun would be too hot [10:27] ian was born in the sheppy hospital [10:30] wb highvoltage [10:30] * highvoltage waves back to Kilos with a 1h latency [10:31] :-) [10:32] inetpro: how did you know I was back at my computer? :) [10:32] uh [10:33] something about changing host /me thinks [10:33] wow thats bad [10:33] haha [10:33] ah, I re-authenticated so that probably showed up something [10:34] konversation shows nicks online [10:34] Hmm [10:34] beach [10:34] highvoltage pro and fly converted me to kde [10:34] Squirm: enjoy! [10:35] I don't know if I should go or not [10:37] go [10:37] lol [10:41] I need people to go with [10:41] No one is around [10:41] oi [10:42] * inetpro starting to enjoy quasseldroid [10:44] oh wow [10:44] konversation lying to me [10:45] watched nicks shows fly offline but he is here in main page [10:45] grrr [10:45] oops sir fly [10:51] Squirm: i actually generally don't go to the beach [10:51] unless i'm walking the dog [10:51] lol [10:52] Yeah [10:53] and these days just getting out of the house is a mission [10:54] ai! my fly in 15 years you will look for any excuse to go out [10:54] 3 beat boxes each on their own mission [10:54] ear plugs or headfones help [10:54] Kilos: that I can handle... I'll drown them out with my heavy metal [10:55] lol [10:56] right, talking of kids... #2 needs to take an afternoon nap. laters. [10:56] k [11:09] If you can’t explain it to a six year old, you don’t understand it yourself. — Albert Einstein [11:09] haha [11:10] superfly ^^ [11:10] superfly: do you know if the cinemas at Blue Route have a generator? [11:11] Squirm: I don't. I know that BlueRoute itself does not have a generator [11:11] Squirm: well, I know that some of the shops don't have electricty [11:11] They have one, but it's just to power the lights and stuff [11:12] I made a movie booking [11:12] that falls into a stage 1 and 2 slot :( [11:12] Just checked now [11:12] oh dear [11:13] and there's no mention of how to change the ticket on their website [11:15] Might have to go in [11:16] zzzz [11:16] I'd rather sleep :-P [11:17] lol [11:47] so, what is our next big mission at ubuntu-za? [11:48] * inetpro looking at Trello board Ubuntu South Africa LoCo - https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [11:48] lol [11:48] dont you ever rest [12:18] power is back [12:19] yay [12:33] Meh [12:33] rest, what is that? [12:33] superfly: Just popped into Food Lover's market [12:33] Wow... [12:33] First time in there [12:34] the one in blue route? [12:34] Yeah [12:34] gazillions of people there? [12:34] great shops for many of your food needs Squirm [12:34] superfly: it was quite busy. They had electricity [12:35] Went to the Cinema in Blue Route, it's funny watching people walk around a pretty closed up wall, aimlessly :D [12:35] I can change my ticket time [12:35] lol [12:35] Just have to call the ticket line [12:36] I walked out of the market with 1.2Kg Rump and a tray of sushi :/ [12:36] haha [12:37] yeah, food lovers is awesome [12:37] it's the one shop I enjoy going to [12:38] Squirm you must get fruit and veggies as well man [12:38] how you gonna stay healthy till you get married [12:39] We often get our fruit there. Generally their stuff is good quality. [12:39] yip the best at our branch too [12:40] they often have specials with a vari8ety of stuff in for a good price [12:40] Kilos: I don't need fruit and veg [12:40] I get all my vitamins through the steak [12:40] eish [12:41] Cows eat grass, I eat cows [12:41] :) [12:41] lol [12:41] you need to learn to goodle [12:41] plenty out there on eating to stay healthy [12:42] if you are only planning on living to 40 or less carry on [12:43] Ok :) [12:43] Kilos: he follows Tim Noakes [12:43] inetpro: not a chance [12:43] Well, maybe not on purpose :D [12:44] My girlfriend is a dietician [12:44] ah [12:44] :P [12:44] follow tim noakes and look like bruce fordyse [12:44] hmm... [12:44] fordice [12:45] that oke [12:53] hi captine [12:53] Hi Kilos and all [12:53] loadshedding had me down this morning. [12:53] 8) [12:53] haha i like that [12:53] ya most of us at different times [12:53] i was off from 8 [12:54] how do you get that to show when you login [12:55] right after ip addy [12:56] ? [12:56] you talking to me? [12:56] show what? [12:56] ya [12:56] 8) [12:56] i am using pidgin... no idea what it is showing... lol [12:56] @105.233.82.168) [12:57] lol i cant even copy paste it with the smiley in === raywan is now known as raywan|away [13:13] storm kom van die dam dink ek [13:30] ai! [13:31] wow. u saying it gives my IP address> [13:31] ? [13:31] thats not good [13:31] yeah havent you got a cloak? [13:32] cloak with #freenode [13:32] just go there and ask for a cloak and someone will help you [13:35] di sous nou hier [13:35] hoop dit hou aan [13:52] ai! all gone [13:58] at least 5mm [14:00] good afternoon [14:06] hi magespawn [14:15] so whats up? [14:18] not much [14:18] but note our cloaks [14:25] i only see those when you log in or out [14:26] magespawn or if you query his nick [14:26] ahh right, never done that before [14:27] /whois Kilos [14:27] with no space in front [14:28] you still not cloaked as well? [14:29] ai! [14:34] ai! all we taught him he still knows nothing [14:34] magespawn start with a freenode cloak [14:35] just /j #freenode and ask for a cloak and they will sort it for you [14:46] ai! inetpro daar gaan jou goed weer [14:46] o net split === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === Neo31 is now known as pynorcio === pynorcio is now known as Neo31 [15:05] brb [15:05] exit [15:08] wb Wraz [15:09] Maaz: seen kbmonkey [15:09] inetpro: kbmonkey was last seen 2 months, 26 days, 9 hours, 4 minutes and 6 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-12 22:05:14 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-01-31 17:53:08 PST [15:09] Kilos: ai [15:10] waar's die apie? [15:11] hy was laas besig om te skyf [15:13] right back [15:13] wb magespawn [15:41] ty [16:31] Kilos: what did you say how much free space do you need for the mbr on a disk? [16:31] min [16:31] 500k is enough i think [16:31] want to try installing on my 1TB [16:32] nono maybe 186 [16:32] external [16:32] so where does mbr come in? === raywan|away is now known as raywan [16:32] busy rearranging space and creating smaller partitions [16:32] ah [16:34] i still one day want to go into gpr [16:34] gpt [16:34] then you can have many primary partitions not only 4 [16:38] inetpro why you fiddling with mbr? [16:38] all drives come with mbr on them [16:38] * Kilos scratches head [16:42] have removed my hdd again [16:43] ya but the 1TB must have an mbr there already [16:43] so mbr will have to be on the external drive [16:43] did you zero the 1TB? [16:43] don't worry, I'll get there [16:44] no [16:44] then mbr must be there still [16:44] grub will find it [16:44] it's not a big deal [16:44] haha [16:46] Google is my buddy, remember [16:48] was just asking while I wait for the rearrange procedures to complete [16:48] takes forever [16:48] lol [16:50] did you find mbr size with google? === raywan is now known as raywan|away [16:51] MBR consists of 512 or more bytes located in the first sector of the drive [16:53] tiny hey [16:56] 13 hours remaining to move data [16:56] yikes [16:56] wow [16:57] you using a 486? [16:57] or are you resizing [17:25] resizing [17:26] but I think I made a mistake by also connecting the 1TB drive in the slow USB port [17:27] oi [17:29] wondering will I loose data if I cancel now [17:29] bit risky I think [17:30] ya thjey warn you dont switch off somewhere i think [17:31] but there's a cancel option [17:32] i think it first remembers somewhere [17:33] google man [17:33] what happens if you cancell a resize operation === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away [17:37] will rather just let it continue [17:37] http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=16268 [17:37] sup [17:37] wooot my rocketraid controller is up and running [17:37] damn its fast [17:37] /dev/sdb 28T 751G 27T 3% /leech [17:37] Rhi Symmetria [17:38] Hi Symmetria [17:38] hi too [17:38] heh thats using 6 disks [17:38] in raid-5 [17:38] Symmetria what happened to the deb-delta server you were going to setup? [17:39] you forgot? [17:39] time happened *sigh* [17:39] hmm... Kilos never forgets [17:39] how long can it take [17:39] you the server king man [17:40] hi superfly wb [17:40] did you have a nap? [17:41] heh kilos I'll try and get to it this week, I just gotta answer the *6327* emails I got last week that I havent gotten to first ;p [17:41] lol [17:41] ignore them for another week [17:42] errr no :) lol, I had an excuse travelling to the states and all this week, no excuse this coming week [17:42] and get a secretary to answer mails [17:43] well as long as you let me try the deb-delta first thats cool, then all is forgiven [17:43] haha, Symmetria he's sounds very official now [17:43] he now has Ubuntu Membership [17:49] they just give it away nowadays [17:49] i might be leaving just now, if eskom stick to the schedule [17:49] eish magespawn [17:50] well enjoy the next 2 1/2 hours [17:59] oh Symmetria ty for the link to the lug there [17:59] we getting ahead [18:04] inetpro what does one do with all these things [18:04] http://slexy.org/view/s20WSezPMO [18:05] Kilos, Kilos, Kilos... one step at a time [18:06] ask one question, not 10 please [18:06] hahaha [18:07] remember that link man for when the next person asks what do they get out of membership [18:09] i have more than enough on my plate to even think of any of that [18:11] then why even asking? [18:11] duh? [18:12] so you can save the link for next okey that asks what do i get out of becoming a member [18:12] why? [18:12] well last one that asked we all said if we get enough members we can ask for a phone [18:12] it's on our website [18:13] then why didnt you give the link [18:13] grrr [18:13] * Kilos looks for the sjambok [18:13] 100 times already === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:14] aw they got mage === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:14] im waiting for fly to get his email going and write a tutorial on how to do it === raywan is now known as raywan|away [18:15] why? [18:15] wow === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:15] is this the right you [18:15] it's all very well documented [18:15] all these why's === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:16] don't you read? [18:16] nope i listen better === raywan is now known as raywan|away [18:16] to peeps i trust [18:17] too many online things i followed and killed my pc [18:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [18:17] read and follow the links [18:17] i have === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:17] then why ask? [18:17] the whole story about gmail settups and all === raywan is now known as raywan|away [18:18] to give you something to complain about === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:18] and to take your mind off the resizing then it goes quicker [18:18] it wont take 14 hours [18:18] ai! === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:19] but it will take long [18:19] 224 GB used [18:19] ya but not the full estimate [18:20] just over half === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:20] now only on 75gb copied [18:21] some things take longer than opthers i dunno why [18:21] seriously Kilos, please ask one question at a time [18:21] even with rsync, at times it seems to hang === raywan is now known as raywan|away [18:21] heh copying shit takes forever [18:21] ok === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:22] Im busy transferring 4 terabytes of FLAC files onto my new raid [18:22] and it says its gonna take 9 hours :( === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:22] Symmetria: ya same boat here [18:23] * inetpro hates waiting [18:23] heh inetpro my biggest issue is that this is the first of 5 4TB disks I gotta do ;p === raywan is now known as raywan|away [18:24] at least you have high speed HW to deal with [18:24] makes it kinda worth the wait [18:26] heh I wanna upgrade the disk arrays in my other machine next, but waiting for the prices to come down on the REALLY big disks I wanna put in there [18:26] heh, you can buy 8TB 5900 RPM disks for $300 a piece now, but I want the 10TB ones [18:26] ;p === raywan|away is now known as raywan [18:27] http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST8000AS0002-ARCHIVE-128MB-3-5IN/dp/B00QX0ZGO6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1423333630&sr=8-4&keywords=8tb+hard+drive === raywan is now known as raywan|away [18:33] only 5900 RPM? [18:33] is that not kinda slow? [18:34] very cheap though [18:34] back [18:35] that was fast magespawn [18:35] still load shed, just on the phone [18:35] ah === raywan|away is now known as raywan [19:17] eve all [19:17] hi captine [19:17] wb captine [19:18] hi captine [19:19] hi aptine [19:19] oops sorry [19:19] lol [19:19] hi captine [19:19] no tab complete [19:19] lol [19:19] np [19:19] :) === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [19:25] not too sure what raywan is trying to do. [19:25] connection prob im trying to get hold of him === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away [19:31] we can always kick him outta here === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan === raywan is now known as raywan|away === raywan|away is now known as raywan [19:34] is it connection? seems like something else. he? does not actually leave just changes the nick [19:34] ya kick him for today inetpro === raywan is now known as raywan|away [19:35] the lug guys cant seem to find him either [19:35] raywan|away: serioudly dude, stop changing your nick, it's flipping irritating. [19:35] raywan|away: IRC has an away mode, use it. === raywan|away is now known as raywan [19:36] they cant find him atm superfly [19:36] just kick him inetpro === raywan is now known as raywan|away [19:37] better? [19:37] yip [19:38] let them find him first [19:39] love the kick message [19:39] :-) [19:40] lol [19:41] stickyboy tell raywan he is welcome back as soon as he uses the irc away mode rather than all this spam [19:41] Kilos: Ok. [19:41] ty [19:41] He's on my BNC actually. :P [19:41] But his machine must be on a crappy network. [19:41] lol [19:46] anybody know which better/more preferred Linux+ or the LPIC 101 and 102? or are they very similar? [19:47] dont they grow from one to the next? [19:49] LPIC 101 leads to the 102 but i am not sure about the linux+, and it is not very clear from what i have read [19:50] there was a lot of stuff for centos in there [19:50] so the fdora redhat peeps medicine [19:51] but there are sections for debian as well [19:53] i thoguht to do linux+ or the other two then maybe move onto rh certifications. [19:53] i think you need to know it all to pass the exams [19:54] ask the fly [19:54] his advice is always good [19:54] Linux+? [19:54] Are those certifications? [19:55] i started 101 and got to page 101 then didnt understand further [19:55] yes [19:55] Kilos: damn, I only got street cred; no certs. [19:55] oh sorry linux+ i dont know about [19:55] Straight gangster. [19:55] lol [19:56] you can study online then just go write somewhere [19:57] Kilos: Meh. :D [19:57] I got github and hardcore experience. [19:57] Hack teh planet, yo. [19:57] lol [19:58] Kilos: So you come from a non-technical backround? [19:58] I was in Kimberley, SA a few times... [19:59] yes im a mechanic by trade but with olden days electronics background [19:59] before pcs were common toys [20:01] Kilos: Ah, cool. [20:03] stickyboy you need to have one or the other, both if you can [20:03] power back on. [20:03] yay [20:04] i ma keen to do them just for fun... linuxacademy.com [20:07] sjoe [20:07] captine i need to do them to show me skills, as i am a lttile short on experience [20:07] s/me/my [20:08] and to learn of course [20:08] i just want to learn it :) [20:09] wanting to lear is an excellent trait to have' [20:10] learn [20:10] magespawn: No thanks. I'm not into certifications. [20:10] I'll skate circles around people with certs. [20:11] The cert industry is a racket! [20:12] but they help when applying for good jobs if you dont have contacts inside already [20:13] and it is a good starting point [20:17] wb Neo31` [20:17] think if we are hoping for more linux penetration in the Windows Corporate world, we need quality certifications. My biggest challenge at my company is the Windows familiar IT staff don't believe there is much linux skills... Certs would help "convince" them [20:18] good point [20:18] :) thx inetpro [20:18] how r u doing? === Neo31` is now known as Neo31 [20:19] he is sad [20:19] his laapys drive died last night === Neo31 is now known as Neo31` === Neo31` is now known as Neo31 [20:19] lappys [20:19] :/ [20:20] lappys? [20:20] ah [20:20] laptop? [20:20] hh [20:20] laptop [20:20] sry for u inetpro [20:22] kicking [20:23] not the end of the world [20:24] brb [20:29] right back [20:29] lol [20:29] what client are you using [20:29] and he still has no cloak [20:30] i always find it amusing how little people on each side of the windows/linux devide know about the other side [20:30] some people that is [20:30] irssi [20:30] nver thought to get one inetpro [20:30] never too [20:30] now the typing is a tad faster [20:31] you got some time magespawn [20:31] some time? [20:32] magespawn: you really think we don't know the ms world? [20:32] go to #freenode and ask for a cloak and once they answer within minutes you have one [20:32] no [20:32] not at all inetpro [20:32] ok [20:33] just some [20:35] must say I often wish I didn't have to know it [20:35] lol [20:35] then you would really struggle [20:35] such a waste of time [20:36] night all. sleep tight [20:37] good night Kilos [20:37] i like knowing both, but if i didnot have to learn both it would be a lot quicker [21:10] bed time for me too, good night [22:25] highvoltage: Happy Birthday!