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k1l_votlon: then "sudo restart lightdm"00:00
erikkOkay, that's all I wanted to know00:00
votlonk1l_: my cnt + alt + f1 / f2 / f4 make my screen go black and not go back :/00:00
votlonk1l_: when i do cnt + alt + f7 is restores the screen00:00
k1l_votlon: so no working tty for you? you could try the recovery or a live system and delete that file in the users home00:01
votlonim logged into my user right now, i can only log into it if i choose my i3wm desktop00:02
votlonbut what config file would i delete in my home to reset lightdm?00:02
k1l_votlon: oh ok. then start a terminal and see who the owner of that file is00:03
votlonk1l_: what file name am i lookin for?00:03
k1l_.Xauthority, like i said above00:03
votlonk1l_: oh my bad i must have missed it00:04
votlonits owned by my user d-rw --- --- votlon:votlon00:04
k1l_d? its not a directory00:05
votlonoh my bad my fonts too small in my terminal xD00:05
votlonits just -rw- --- ---00:05
k1l_hmm ok.00:05
k1l_that would have been a easy solution.00:05
votloni did have an issue earlier where it was owned by root00:06
votloncuz i ran sudo startx like a nub00:06
k1l_well yes, startx is bad00:06
momoterreverytime i kill that process it spawns a new one under a different name00:06
momoterrk1l_, I cant see what is iniside that file00:06
k1l_are other things owned by root?00:06
momoterrif i do cat the binary00:06
momoterrthe console is frozen00:06
k1l_votlon: usually .gvfs is the only thing owned by root00:07
votlonk1l_: owned by root: .dbus .gcfs .ICeauthority .viminfo .wireshark00:07
k1l_votlon: well, .ICEau.. and .dbus should be owned by user user too and might be the issue here00:08
OerHeksmomoterr, i think it is time to resore a backup.00:08
k1l_maybe need to -r on the .dbus folder00:09
votlonk1l_: do i need to -r the .dbus as well?00:09
k1l_votlon: yes00:10
votlonk1l_: kk let me see if it worked00:11
viceHey, I have three machines running ubuntu 14 and am trying to figure out the best way to "manage" - e.g. x, vnc, etc. Anyone able to point me toward a good tool / reference?00:12
votlondarn it didnt work :/00:14
bekksvotlon: "ssh".00:14
djangoCan I have multiple up commands on the same interface in /etc/network/interfaces?00:15
votlonbekks: wait what?00:15
k1l_votlon: see .xsession-errors in the home00:15
bekks!ssh | votlon00:15
ubottuvotlon: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)00:15
bekksExcuse me, I tabfailed again :)00:15
votlonbekks: what about ssh?00:15
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bekks!ssh | vice00:16
ubottuvice: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)00:16
viceI'm not sure if I'm on the right course with xvnc, but I'm trying to run two of the three "headless" I guess.00:16
bekksvotlon: I'm sorry, just ignore my post :)00:16
bekksvice: Then you do want ssh.00:16
votlonoh okay lawls i was like :300:16
votlonk1l_: kk ill pastebin it for u00:16
viceI'm looking at GUI control00:16
votlonk1l_: http://pastebin.com/QZYEC8Ae00:19
k1l_votlon: who is the owner of the folders in /home/ ?00:19
Roots47can multiple keys live in your authorized_keys file?00:20
votlonk1l_: two users and each owned by there own user00:21
votlonk1l_: home is owned by root but i thought that was normal ;300:21
k1l_and in the users home its still everything besides .gvfs is owned by the user? and inside .dbus, too?00:21
k1l_votlon: that is fine. just the user folders need to be owned by user00:22
votlonk1l_: yeah everything is owned by the users00:24
votlon.dmrc only has the i3 session inside could that matter?00:24
votlonThe .ICEauthority is owned by the user in the other home directory00:26
votlonIn mine its owned by root00:26
votlony again00:26
votlonk1l_: think im gonna change that and try again00:26
k1l_votlon: yes, imho that is a "someting is owned by root so the desktop cant create the stuff it needs" issue.00:27
votlonYeah the iceauth file was it00:30
k1l_votlon: good, thought you already chowned that back00:30
k1l_but i go sleeping now. bb00:31
votlonk1l_: thx for u help00:31
jasonkuhrtHi, If I edit a "service" in /etc/init.d/foobar00:34
jasonkuhrtDo I need to do anything before start/stop ing it00:34
jasonkuhrt?00:34
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potato_farmerjasonkuhrt: Not sure what you mean. You should be able to just stop and start it.00:36
jasonkuhrtpotato_farmer: That answers my question, thanks00:36
Guest9812I'm looking for help on Ubuntu as router00:41
votlonGuest9812: why ubuntu if i may ask?00:41
Guest9812I used Ubuntu because I'm familiar with it.00:41
Guest9812I set up a physical machine with Ubuntu 14.04 as router then ported it to a virtual machine that I'm running in virtualbox.  Everything works except that one of my computers is unable to connect to Netflix.00:42
Guest9812all other computers can connect but on that one computer, which was connected when I had a physical machine and also can connect using a different network00:43
daftykinsso compare settings, adjust - job done00:43
Guest9812the one computer can't even ping netflix00:43
daftykinsbad DNS00:43
votlon^00:44
daftykinstry "dig netflix.com" or whatever and see if it resolves00:44
Guest9812why would dns be bad when going through the VM router but not when going through a different physical network00:44
daftykinsdon't question it, just do it00:44
Guest9812i'll try that00:44
votlonlawls00:45
daftykinscommands to diagnose the problem are going to help you arrive at a solution a million times faster than scratching your head and debating the meaning of life :)00:45
kreigis there a forum post on how to remove this unity?00:46
Ben64!nounity00:46
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 and up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:46
Guest9812okay, i'll give it a try00:46
Ben64hmm, should update that trigger00:46
daftykinsBen64: know someone who does it? i approached -ops with 5+ edits a bit ago and every one got ignored.00:46
kreigthank you Ben6400:46
Ben64daftykins: you can do it with !blah is <definition>00:47
daftykinsi would think you have to be an authorised user for that00:47
Ben64well it goes to be reviewed iirc00:47
daftykinsah right00:47
daftykinsmy main one was creating !amd since they haven't been called !ati for years00:48
daftykinsanywho, i'm off topic ^_^00:48
votlonBurn the people off topic at the stake!00:48
Guest9812doesn't seem to be dns because dig netflix.com returned info but i still can't ping an address for netflix or connect with that computer yet other computers on the network can connect00:48
Guest9812and no more meaning of life questions, i promise00:49
daftykinsthen you maybe don't have a default gateway configured correctly00:49
daftykinscompare "ip route" with your other systems00:49
daftykinsvotlon: oh i do, i do00:49
Guest9812i can access other websites with the computer; comparing ...00:49
daftykinsok, that suggests a gateway is correct to at least let those function.00:50
daftykinsare the dig outputs the same?00:50
Guest9812yes00:50
votlonGuest9812: can u ping netflix or did u say no?00:52
votlonmah page up isnt working lawls00:52
votlonmore stuff to fix Kappa00:52
donethats weird, ubuntu erased my nvidia-304 and go back alone to intel graphics, needed to reinstall nvidia-304 (alright)00:53
daftykinsGuest9812: if i'm honest it's tough for me to help diagnose something when i've never once used the service00:54
daftykinsdone: maybe after a kernel upgrade?00:54
Guest9812ip route is the same00:54
votlonGuest9812: u using firefox?00:54
doneno daftykins00:54
donecompletely natural ?00:54
daftykinswell it doesn't happen by magic! so no idea00:54
doneor maybe i'm wrong, not important (i think i installed 304 yesterday :/)00:54
done(sure, magic)00:55
daftykins304 is as old as time :D00:55
votlondaftykins: this happened to be before but it was because i wasnt usint ubuntu as a nat server00:55
votlonusing*00:55
done331 doesnt work on my 705A00:55
votlonand netflix was being blocked by OS definition by netflix's server00:55
votlonSilly netflix00:55
daftykinsvotlon: mmm, well given we're told other systems work and Guest9812 is definitely online talking to us, i would have to say NAT must be working00:55
doneno it works very well except plymouth00:56
Guest9812I got onto netflix and deauthorized all computers00:56
daftykinsyeah, boot splash is the first thing to go with nvidia00:56
daftykinsgot onto it from the target system?00:56
donei mean it changed from 304 to noueveau, back in propietary everythink works much better (specially the video issues)00:56
Guest9812no, got onto it from another network and another computer. I logged out of all active netflix logins.00:57
Guest9812as far as OS definition; I've logged on with Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Windows 8.1, Windows 7, and Android all on the same network with the same virtualbox ubuntu router.00:58
votlonGuest9812: can u mtr netflix.com00:58
votlonGuest9812: from the computer u want to watch netflix on assuming it a linux box00:59
Guest9812The machine that I can't connect is Linux Mint with Windows 7 in virtualbox and I can't connect either from Mint or from inside vbox.  The other OS I listed were all native to the machine (multiple computers)00:59
daftykinsoh for Tuxs sake00:59
daftykinsso you've been wasting our time with Mint issues this whole time?01:00
daftykins!mint01:00
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:00
daftykinsgo there. not supported.01:00
daftykinsthe clue is the channel name01:00
votlonwell the router is running ubuntu correct?01:00
Guest9812I know.  The router is Ubuntu 14.04.  I'm not concerned about the other OS just trying to figure out why one computer on a network can't connect while all others can.01:00
votlonrun mtr so we know if its the router dropping the packets or your computer01:00
votlonthen we can carry u to the stake if its mints fault :p01:01
daftykinsthe others work so it's not the router, not an ubuntu issue.01:01
votlondaftykins: oh kk ill bring the torches01:01
daftykins\o/01:01
Guest9812mtr is working01:02
Guest9812I just ran Ubuntu in a VM on that machine and it can't connect either01:02
daftykinsthat doesn't make it relevant really01:03
daftykinsespecially if you're not using bridged networking01:03
OerHeks<Guest9812 how do you connect to netflix, latest chrome 40.0.2214.111  ??01:04
Guest9812my attempt to connect is with firefox under mint and chrome in the windows vm01:05
votlonGuest9812: Firefox wont work with netflix01:05
votlonGuest9812: go download chrome beta stable for best netflix expierence01:05
votlonexperience01:05
Guest9812I was just trying to log in, not stream, and the address is somehow being blocked by my Ubuntu router01:05
Guest9812I've had good luck for a while with Windows VM under Linux.01:06
votlonGuest9812: Go download chrome and see if it does work01:06
Guest9812okay01:07
votlonGuest9812: My netflix was being blocked in firefox by os and wouldnt work till i used an extention01:07
cf-xHi people01:07
cf-xFinally I can almost go bo bed, it's 2:07 AM here and my backup is still running, lame.01:08
daftykinscf-x: that's nice but off topic01:09
daftykinschat in #ubuntu-offtopic01:09
Guest9812chrome 40.2... (I don't know if it's beta stable) is unable to load netflix, even the netflix help page - any page on www.netflix.com01:09
cf-xwow, didn't know ubuntu-offtopic would exist xD bye then :D01:10
votlonGuest9812: In virtual box how are u forwarding ur network adapter to ur vm01:10
fishcookerhow to shred folder fair safe and quickly?01:10
votlonGuest9812: wait actually are u able to load any other websites?01:11
votlonGuest9812: or is it just netflix's domain01:11
Guest9812NAT01:12
Guest9812it seems to be just netflix's domain; i've tried several other websites with a normal connection01:12
votlonGuest9812: are you able to connect from your mint host to netflix?01:13
daftykins*facepalm*01:13
daftykinsthat's what we've been talking about the entire time01:13
votlonight just flush the dns on ur ubuntu router then01:13
Guest9812no, neither the host nor the vm can connect when going through the router but if i connect to another network they both connect01:13
votlonGuest9812: flush the dns on ur ubuntu machine01:14
OerHeksfishcooker, this answer might be a help http://askubuntu.com/a/5757301:14
PSGroup41I am in bash shell. How do I change my current shell to csh?01:14
votlonGuest9812: *Heroic Pose* have you tried restarting the server :)01:15
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Run "csh". Why do you want to use csh though?01:15
Guest9812forgive me, how do i flush dns; i'm using BIND and Webmin01:15
votlonGuest9812: sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart01:17
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plasmasnakedoes anybody know if it's possible to have both unity and gnome 3 installed at the same time? i remember once when i tried to have both kde (or maybe it was xfce) and unity installed, things got a little ugly01:17
plasmasnakelike the themes interfering with each other and stuff01:18
votlonGuest9812: also run "rndc restart" for bind01:18
Jordan_Uplasmasnake: GNOME Shell and Unity can be installed at the same time with no issues.01:18
Guest9812nscd command not found01:18
plasmasnakeJordan_U: nice, thanks!01:18
Jordan_Uplasmasnake: You're welcome.01:18
votlonGuest9812: okay just use "rndc flushname netflix.com" or "rndc restart"01:19
votlonGuest9812: flushname if u dont want to get rid of all ur cache01:19
Guest9812okay; it's "rndc flush" as restart is not yet implimented01:21
votlonGuest9812: wtf .-.01:21
votlonkk install nscd then01:22
votlonAnd maybe debate updating ur bind server for situtations like this01:23
PSGroup41I am unable to change to a C Shell with csh. Is there other options to do it?01:23
votlonPSGroup41: chsh is the command i believe, correct me if im worng01:24
votlonwrong*01:24
votlonnvm ignore me01:24
votlon<--- nub01:24
PSGroup41chsh does not work either. Does ypchsh work? If yes, would you please inform me the syntax of using it?01:26
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Do you want to change the shell used by default when you log in / open a new terminal, or do you just want to run csh once? And again, why do you want to use csh?01:26
Guest9812still not working; did nscd restart01:28
PSGroup41I would like to run csh once. However, csh does not on the prompt.01:28
Jordan_UPSGroup41: What happense when you run "csh"? What do you expect to happen?01:29
PSGroup41I am in bash shell. I would like to run some command on a c shell. Please help.01:29
Jordan_UPSGroup41: We can't help if you refuse to answer our questions.01:29
votlon*boom*01:30
EriC^^PSGroup41: which command?01:30
votlonGuest9812: Did mtr ever make it to the server?01:30
daftykinsPSGroup41: it's about time you tell us what you've been up to, since you've been messing with every shell under the sun for the past few days :)01:30
daftykinsand seemingly not knowing what they even are01:30
votlonGuest9812: If mtr is making it to the server but ping wont, I would'nt be able to help any further soz matey01:31
eddie_Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.10 but my update manager says there are no update to install01:31
fishcookerOerHeks: is it also work for ntfs partition?01:32
EriC^^eddie_: you'll need to upgrade to 14.04 first then 14.1001:32
eddie_EriC^^: Okay thanks. Is it possible to do that through the update manager?01:32
Jordan_Ueddie_: First, you can't upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.10. You have to upgrade to 14.04 then upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 (or just stay with 14.04, since it is an LTS release).01:32
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eddie_I think I'll just stick with 14.04. What does LTS stand for?01:33
EriC^^eddie_: yes, try to update the cache first, sudo apt-get update01:33
Guest9812okay; well thanks so much for your help. any thoughts on why it's just one computer on the network that seems to be blocked?01:33
Jordan_U!lts | eddie_01:33
ubottueddie_: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)01:33
votloneddie_: Make sure you back up all ur data before you update your version "sudo do-release-upgrade"01:33
PSGroup41Sry, I did the command, echo $SHELL. The output was /bin/tcsh.01:33
eddie_right, already done ty botlon01:34
eddie_votlon*01:34
Jordan_UPSGroup41: "echo $SHELL" is *not* a reliable way to tell what shell you're running.01:34
PSGroup41How do I find out which shell I am running please?01:35
EriC^^PSGroup41: type ps -p $$01:35
Ben64PSGroup41: can you explain what you're trying to accomplish? you've been here for days asking weird shell questions01:36
votlonBen64: shellception...01:36
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EriC^^the shell is collapsing01:36
votlonlol01:37
EriC^^:D01:37
PSGroup41EriC^^++: I typed the command, ps -p $$, and see CMD=csh. Does that mean I am in C Shell?01:37
Ben64PSGroup41: are you on Ubuntu 13.0401:37
eddie_Me again, the update manager is telling me that the next upgrade is 12.10. Will I have to upgrade through every version between 12.04 and 14.04?01:38
Ben64eddie_: no, you can go from 12.04 straight to 14.0401:38
eddie_Okay, can I do that through the command line?01:39
PSGroup41Ben64: no01:39
Ben64eddie_: probably, but you might need to set update manager to LTS only01:39
Ben64PSGroup41: really? you said you were 2 days ago01:40
PSGroup41Ben64: I am not in Ubuntu at this time:)01:41
Jordan_Ueddie_: Do *not* upgrade to 12.10, whatever you do.01:41
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Then why are you asking support questions in #ubuntu?01:42
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChangingShells01:42
EriC^^eddie_: try sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt to lts01:42
Ben64EriC^^: ah, great. i wasn't sure where the file was01:43
OerHeksfishcooker, nope01:43
daftykinsPSGroup41: you're in an ubuntu channel asking about something other than ubuntu? why are you doing that?01:43
daftykinsi knew this guy was trouble01:43
EriC^^tsk tsk tsk01:44
Ben64indeed. connecting from Intel's IP range too, good thing I don't buy their CPUs...01:44
daftykinsthis guy is coming from intel?01:44
Ben64intel has owned 192.55.32.0 - 192.55.81.255 since 198901:45
daftykinswell, i don't make a habit of whois'ing everyone that pops in :>01:46
Ben64oh today he's from 134.134.0.0 - 134.134.255.255, which intel has owned since 199301:46
Ben64i have a habit of keeping tabs on people i deem sketchy01:46
daftykins=]01:46
daftykinsPSGroup41: that explains why you keep ducking my questions of what exactly you're doing, doesn't it? :)01:46
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votlonWas PSGroup41 just trollin?01:48
Ben64so my main menu, in 14.04 has a vertical scroll thingy, pretty annoying, I have 1080 pixels of vertical space, yet it insists on needing to scroll. is there a way anyone knows how to disable that? using gnome-panel01:48
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nibblerOerHeks: funny page - especially the "way to find out if you have a specific shell installed" ;-)01:49
excelsioraUbuntu! hey hey hey! What's up? Happy weekend!! I'm trying to figure out what I should do about flash? Does Ubuntu have a recommended way to keep that up to date for 14.04? I keep getting a message in my browser (wife too) about it being out of date.01:51
tewardexcelsiora: chrome01:51
excelsiora:(01:51
nibblerexcelsiora: the recommended thing to do about flash is to get rid of it01:51
excelsiorabut I want firefox! :)01:51
PSGroup41Hello! I am on Ubuntu, I found out that on C shell, the command, source script arg, takes the arg as an empty string. This error does not occur in Linux Red Hat. Is the error documented in the Ubuntu website?01:51
tewardexcelsiora: Flash for Linux stopped being updated after Flash 11 - it gets *updates* but not frequently, and in fact i think support is going away in the next year or so.01:52
PSGroup41Thank you very much for any help!01:52
OerHeksexcelsiora, use pepperflashplugin, as standard in chrome.01:52
excelsioranibbler: are you the same gnibbler on SO?01:52
nibblerexcelsiora: dont't think so01:52
excelsioraok01:52
excelsioraPSGroup41: C shell is considered a bad practice to use, as I recall01:53
excelsiorateward: why would they stop supporting Linux?01:53
agent_whiteBecause Oracle, probably.01:54
Jordan_Uexcelsiora: They didn't stop supporting Linux, they stopped supporting NPAPI on linux. Google supports flash plugin for linux, but only via their pepper API, which Firefox doesn't support.01:54
excelsioraI thought Oracle and Linux were buddies?01:55
Jordan_UPSGroup41: What is your end goal?01:55
budhey guys. is there an easy way to make my hard disks automatically mount on startup?01:55
EriC^^!fstab | bud01:56
ubottubud: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:56
tewardexcelsiora: because Adobe.01:56
tewardJordan_U: true, but they also stopped supporting the Flash standalone for Linux too...01:56
derpderpi have downloaded the latest kernel repo from ubuntu's git archive, but how can I find the code that runs the interface used when changing resolution and monitor placement?01:58
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execb33fHello, I just recently purchase two Radeon R9 270X cards.  I am having difficulty getting them to work properly.  I am using the fglrx drivers from the apt repository, however fglrx-amdcccle  wasn't showing all of my monitors no matter what.  I was also getting artifacts and Xorg would lock up completly, causing the machine to freeze.01:59
PSGroup41Jordan_U: My project partner insists that I need to provide him an official document indicating that it is an Ubuntu error. I am trying to find such a document.02:00
execb33fI heard that the proprietary driver might be better, I attempted downloading it but its in .deb format.  All of the guides refer to a .run file that I can't seem to find on AMD's website.02:01
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Why is csh relevant to your project at all?02:01
cptbadasshowdy! quick question: i installed ubuntu on a pc, then added another hdd. ubuntu doesn't show it. what do i need to do?02:01
excelsioraI went to Software Sources in Software Center, selected Canonical Partners under Other Software, and found the update through Adobe's site, installed it (which uninstalled prior flash) and no need to even restart Firefox, flash works.02:02
EriC^^cptbadass: it doesn't show in sudo parted -l ?02:02
cptbadasslet me check02:02
PSGroup41My project partner insists we use csh and if the source command does not work, I need to provide him with documentation.02:03
Ben64PSGroup41: what is the output of this command? "md5sum /etc/issue" and what version of ubuntu are you running02:03
FourFireHello02:03
FourFireI've been struggling trying to install the Nvidia 346 driver02:03
FourFireMy screen resolution is down to 600x480...02:04
daftykinsFourFire: from where? downloaded?02:04
excelsiorahow's gnash coming along?02:04
daftykins346 is not in the repos02:04
FourFireHow do I kill mdm permanently02:04
Ben64FourFire: how did you try to install it, why do you need 346?02:04
Ben64FourFire: also, what video card, laptop? dual gpu?02:04
FourFireplease. there's terrible graphics artifacts which are covering my F1 virtual terminal session02:04
PSGroup41The same error occurs on 14.04 and 13.04.02:04
vancronI've just been setting up a share between a virtual machine and my windows host. The problem is i cant get it to allow only my sambauser, i can connect to the share with any user. It is like guest ok = yes, but it's not. security = user, force group = vboxsf create mask= 0640.. I dont know what i do wrong02:04
Ben64PSGroup41: that is not an answer to my question02:04
FourFiredaftykins, yes downloaded02:04
FourFireI just need to install it, but I can't with mdm or lightdm or whatever it is unity runs on top of running02:05
daftykinsFourFire: so, where do you fail installing?02:05
cptbadassnope, doesn't show it02:05
FourFirehow do I Kill the process02:05
Ben64FourFire: don't install it that way02:05
FourFireit throws me an error message02:05
daftykinsFourFire: yes you hit ctrl+alt+F1 to login at a TTY, then run "sudo service lightdm stop"02:05
EriC^^cptbadass: if you plug it in, does dmesg mention it?02:05
FourFireok, that did not seem to change anything02:06
FourFireI'm logged into TTY1 but unity is still up on top of it so I can't see anything02:06
* Ben64 pokes FourFire... what video card, why do you need 346, system details, go02:06
cptbadasslike, hook it in while the system is on?02:06
FourFireexcept when I'm typing the spot I am changing becomes displays TTY1 for a split second02:07
FourFireBen64, 96002:07
EriC^^cptbadass: can you pastebin /var/log/kern.log ?02:07
flightis there anyone here that is using genymotion with virtualbox?02:07
Ben64FourFire: that the only gpu in the system?02:07
cptbadassLet me stop playing with my one handed keyboard and type like I mean it. I admit I'm unfamiliar with linux, so would you mind a quick instruction as to doing that?02:08
FourFireI could take out that and use the intel iGPU but then the drive refuses to install02:08
FourFiredriver*02:08
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Sorry, I lost my internet connection. If you answered my question, "Why is csh relevant to your project at all?", I did not see it.02:08
EriC^^cptbadass: cat /var/log/kern.log , paste in paste.ubuntu.com02:08
cptbadassAlright, one moment02:09
Ben64FourFire: well if you're not planning on using the intel gpu at all, use this PPA and install the driver using apt-get. https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa02:09
Jordan_UPSGroup41: And for the record, I very much doubt that this is an Ubuntu bug. I think that you're expecting a feature of csh (which shouldn't be used for anything but nostalgia) that is not actually guaranteed to be available in all csh implementations.02:09
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FourFireBen64, I already did this02:09
flightIf someone could walk me through this error message I'm getting from terminal while trying to execute genymotion it would be much appreciated02:09
flightError while opening log file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log: No such file or directory02:10
flightLogging activities to file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log02:10
flightAborted (core dumped)02:10
FourFirefollowing the Phoronix article02:10
Ben64FourFire: and?02:10
FourFireI have my current problem02:10
Ben64FourFire: well you should have lead with that, what else should we know about?02:10
FourFireI specifically blacklisted neovou whatever stuff following a tutorial02:10
cptbadassalright, done.02:11
Ben64FourFire: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"02:11
cptbadasshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10101542/02:11
budok, so when I click a drive and it mounts it for me. It creates the mount point directory - then deletes it when i unmount?02:11
FourFirennot on this machine, unfortunately, I'll try02:11
budbut when i mount it via cli, i have to mkdir the mountpoint first02:12
flightcan someone please explain what this means to me::::02:12
flightError while opening log file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log: No such file or directory02:12
flightLogging activities to file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log02:12
flightAborted (core dumped)02:12
FourFireI can't see the result02:12
PSGroup41Jordan_U:My project partner insists we use csh and if the source command does not work, I need to provide him with documentation.02:12
cptbadassIt's an msata ssd, not sure if that's a compatibility issue or not.02:12
FourFirethere's a weird situation, it's like unity is reacting to my keypresses, but I'm also logged into TTY102:12
antimatroidIf I call "echo "hello" | at "now + 1 minutes"" at say 13:07:35 (h:m:s), at runs at 13:07:35, whereas if I call "date -d "now + 1 minutes"" then I get 13:08:35 which is 35 seconds after at runs. I'm pretty sure I can't get 'at' to recognise seconds, is there an easy way to change "date -d "now + 1 minutes"" so that when I call it at say 13:07:35 I get 13:08:00? I know I could always run the 'at' command a minute later if I wanted that to run after what I us02:12
Ben64FourFire: if you've got command line only, you can do "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"02:12
FourFireis there some way I can kill unity?02:12
Ben64sudo service lightdm stop02:13
Ben64like i saw suggested above02:13
FourFireyeah I tried that, no dice02:13
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Why does your partner insist that you use csh? That seems frankly indefensibly wrong.02:13
Ben64FourFire: maybe start up in text mode...02:13
Ben64!text | FourFire02:13
ubottuFourFire: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode02:13
flightanyone?02:13
Ben64flight: first, stop spamming that error... use a pastebin. secondly, be patient02:14
EriC^^cptbadass: is it a usb drive?02:14
FourFireok so I input that command Ben64 is there somewhere I can see the result02:14
Ben64FourFire: it should return a url02:14
FourFireok I'll reboot02:14
flightsorry first time user02:15
cptbadassNo, it should be registered as a sata drive. The slot itself is sata II02:15
PSGroup41Jordan_U: It is for our project. He said that if it cannot be done, we need to provide official documents on it.02:15
daftykinsFourFire: i told you how to stop unity, you must be doing it wrong.02:15
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Have you told him that you think using csh for anything made within the last 2 decades is insane?02:16
Ben64PSGroup41: what is the output of this command? "md5sum /etc/issue" and what version of ubuntu are you running02:16
EriC^^cptbadass: goes gparted see it?02:16
Bashing-omflight: I have not sen the ap, but " No such file or directory " I would find out the why -> ls -al /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log , ls -al /home/flight/.Genymobile . see where the path fails ?02:17
FourFirehow do I force grub to pause when booting into Ubuntu, is that a boot setting: prioritize legacy over UEFI ?02:17
cptbadassI can check. Sorry for not checking these things sooner.02:17
PSGroup41Ben64: is the command, md5sum /etc/issue, a safe command?02:17
Ben64yep02:17
EriC^^cptbadass: no problem02:17
PSGroup41I do not want to crash the system.02:17
Ben64if it does, you've got some huge problems02:17
FourFireok got into tty1 without problems02:17
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Yes, it doesn't change any state in any way (it just prints a number).02:18
FourFireattempting to install the Nvidia driver now02:18
Ben64FourFire: don't!02:18
linuxuz3r6:18:13 PM linuxuz3r  hi how do i include /usr/local/lib to library path02:18
cptbadassJust checked gParted, and no, nothing.02:18
FourFireok, what should I do instead?02:18
flightBashing-om: Ok I'll try that and see what it turns up02:19
EriC^^cptbadass: does the BIOS see it?02:19
Ben64FourFire: use the xorg-edgers ppa like i've said already02:19
FourFireyou mean I should install it again?02:19
cptbadassI'll have to check that too. I'll be logging in the meantime.02:19
Ben64FourFire: or pastebin what i asked... the output of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"02:19
Panicohi guys02:20
PSGroup41Ben64: it gives a number02:20
Ben64and the number is....02:20
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Please post that number here.02:20
FourFireit returns "use netcat"02:20
vancronit's totally impossible to get samba to allow only my user created with smbpasswd. I can access my shared folder from any user on my windows machine wich is not what i want02:21
FourFirewhen I just grep nvidia it doesn't return anything02:21
Ben64FourFire: then seems like you either A) didn't add the ppa properly or B) didn't install said driver from said PPA02:21
FourFireI think the guide I was following told me to purge everything following a certain pattern02:21
PSGroup41What does the number mean? Can I check it by myself?02:22
Ben64FourFire: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-34602:22
bazhangwhats the number PSGroup4102:22
Ben64FourFire: if that doesn't work, we add the PPA02:22
FourFireBen64, ok, I'll readd the PPA, what do I input precisely?02:22
cptbadassOkay, back. Yes, the BIOS does recognise the drive: samsung msata 500.1gb02:22
FourFireok, I'll try that02:22
budi need to add some mounts to fstab and the howto's are confusing me. mainly the options, etc. i just want 'mount /dev /mountpoint' to run. where do i find the specific options i need to define in fstab?02:22
bazhangsudo blkid bud02:23
FourFireyeah it can't find that02:23
Ben64FourFire: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa02:23
budbazhang, ah, that helps!02:24
Jordan_UPSGroup41:02:24
bazhangPSGroup41, have you given us that number yet02:24
cptbadassCorrection: gparted DOES see the hdd. Didn't realize there was a dropdown menu to the side for other drives.02:24
EriC^^cptbadass: ok, great02:25
cptbadassSo sorry.  Do I just need to format it?02:25
EriC^^yeah, probably the filesystem is corrupted or something02:25
EriC^^repartition it02:25
FourFireok, upgrade && update done, no changes apparently02:25
daftykinsgiven we keep getting selected information we probably have to label PSGroup41 as a non-ubuntu user who's been hoodwinking us this entire time :(02:25
mushirI can't enter recovery mode in ubuntu 14.04 .. I reach the options but I can't navigate options I get strange black screen02:25
Ben64FourFire: ok, now you should be able to install the nvidia package you tried before02:26
budand i have to create the mountpoints manually right? it's not fstabs job to do that.02:26
Ben64bud: correct02:26
FourFirenope it doesn't see it02:26
budty02:26
Ben64FourFire: what version of ubuntu02:26
cptbadasswhat should the partition table type be if I want it to work with windows 7/8.1?02:26
EriC^^are you using uefi?02:26
Ben64you probably want msdos02:26
FourFire"E: unable to locate package ..."02:26
cptbadassdidn't know there was anything more to partitioning than size, and fat/ntsc02:27
FourFire14.04, but upgraded to kernel 3.18.602:27
Ben64FourFire: oh that could be a problem02:27
EriC^^cptbadass: if you're using uefi, you'll want a gpt partition table02:27
FourFireshould I boot with an older version?02:27
daftykinsFourFire: you silly billy02:27
FourFireI just wanted to e updated D:02:28
Ben64FourFire: you might not be able to get nvidia going at all with that unless you want to run the nvidia installer every time manually02:28
budanything wrong with mounting stuff to /media vs /mnt?02:28
FourFirehmm02:28
FourFirecan I downgrade then?02:28
Ben64depends how you upgraded02:29
FourFireIIRC theres something really horrible about attempting to downgrade02:29
Jordan_UPSGroup41: I think I know why you're seeing what you think is a difference between Ubuntu and Red Hat here (it's *not* an Ubuntu bug), but frankly I'm not going to help you without at least a little bit more information on why you're doing somthing so insane than you've given.02:29
FourFireBen64, the phoronix kernel upgrade article02:29
FourFireI just did that02:29
Ben64i don't know what that entails02:29
FourFirehttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?px=MTY1NTU&page=news_item02:29
flightI apologize to everyone for my spamming earlier. Upon further investigation I discovered my problem was in the fact that I had the wrong version of the program downloaded02:30
cptbadassThank you very much, Eric.  Seems like everything is in working order now.02:30
joba13hola!!!02:31
EriC^^cptbadass: you're welcome02:31
Ben64FourFire: as long as you have old kernels installed, you can just remove the packages you installed for that02:31
joba13hello i'm new in Ubuntu02:31
FourFireok02:31
mushirI'm using ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem running my PC in recovery mode.02:32
mushirI can get to the recovery mode screen in the grub menu but when I try to navigate through the options using up or down, I get this black screen with weird text in the middle of my screen so I simply can't navigate through the options.02:32
FourFirehow do I do that?02:32
Ben64dpkg -r <name of package>02:32
PSGroup41Ben64: If I provide the number, will it cause security issue to my system?02:32
Ben64PSGroup41: no02:32
Jordan_UPSGroup41: No, it will not.02:32
PSGroup41Can someone get into my system if I provide such a number?02:32
Jordan_UPSGroup41: No.02:32
Ben64i'm done with this guy02:33
bazhangwhat version of redhat PSGroup4102:33
Guest96896.02:33
PSGroup41It is Ubuntu 13.04. It works well on Red Hat Linux.02:34
Bashing-omflight: Good work . Versions matter !02:35
FourFirenow a whole coloum of tidles (~) happened02:35
FourFireI'll get back to this tomorrow, too tired now02:35
bazhangPSGroup41, what works well on redhat. this is ubuntu support only and that version is eol: not supported at all02:36
budin fstab, using the UUID can be used in place of /dev/xyz, correct?02:36
Ben64bud: yep, and its more reliable02:36
linuxuz3rhow do i know if a program is 64bit or 32 bit02:36
PSGroup41Sry, I found the number in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23627202:37
bazhangif you are on that version PSGroup41 then upgrade immediately for support here02:37
Ben64linuxuz3r: file "/path/to/program"02:37
SchrodingersScatlinuxuz3r: using 'file' should tell you02:37
bazhang!eolupgrades | PSGroup4102:37
ubottuPSGroup41: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades02:37
bazhangsee the very last link PSGroup41 and upgrade pronto02:37
budBen64, so "UUID=7d07465a-76ab-4316-93a1-93320ccb94fa /media/Storage2 ext2 auto 0 0" is formatted correctly then?02:37
mushirany hlp ??02:38
PSGroup41It fails on Ubuntu 14.04, too02:38
Jordan_UPSGroup41: If you're worried about security, running an EOL release of any OS should terrify you.02:38
Ben64bud: looks good. make sure the case matches on the mountpoint though02:38
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Why does your partner insist on csh? Have you told them that using csh for anything written within the last two decades is insane?02:39
EriC^^bud: any reason you're not using defaults instead of auto?02:39
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <-- PSGroup4102:39
budEriC^^, i just read that auto makes it automatically mount at boot, that's what i'm trying to accomplish.02:39
PSGroup41bazhang: I see the same problem in Ubuntu 14.0402:40
bazhangPSGroup41, 13.04 is simply not supported, upgrade for support here02:40
daftykinsPSGroup41: you have to run a supported distribution to get support in here.02:40
budEriC^^, or is adding it to fstab going to make it automatically mount anyway02:41
Ben64PSGroup41: well you've been lying the past hour+ about what version you're running, how can anyone trust you now02:41
mushirI'm using ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem running my PC in recovery mode.02:41
mushirI can get to the recovery mode screen in the grub menu but when I try to navigate through the options using up or down, I get this black screen with weird text in the middle of my screen so I simply can't navigate through the options.02:41
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EriC^^bud: defaults includes auto and other options that work well with ext file systems, depending on what you want exactly02:41
bazhangselective truthiness Ben6402:41
Jordan_Umushir: Try adding "GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console" to /etc/default/grub, then run "sudo update-grub".02:42
daftykinslying for the past several days in fact02:42
Ben64Feb 06 2015 17:37:58 <Ben64>PSGroup41: are you on Ubuntu 13.04   \n   Feb 06 2015 17:39:28 <PSGroup41>Ben64: no02:42
budEriC^^, these are just basic, simple, ext2 drives for storate, i'll use defaults instead :) thx02:42
PSGroup41The errors failed in both 13.04 and 14.0402:42
bazhangmy versions sounds nicer02:42
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Why does your partner insist on csh? Have you told them that using csh for anything written within the last two decades is insane?02:42
EriC^^bud: np02:42
PSGroup41Ben64: yes02:43
bazhangPSGroup41, its not supported. please stop asking here for support on the eol version. upgrade with help of the link I have given you two times now02:43
PSGroup41bazhang: I see the same problem in 14.0402:43
bazhangPSGroup41, no need to repeat that. it's not supported, and repeating that wont change it02:44
PSGroup41I have two machine, one is 13.04 and another is 14.04. Both machine fail on the same problem.02:44
EriC^^PSGroup41: what's the problem exactly?02:44
bazhangssecurity02:44
Jordan_UPSGroup41: I know exactly why you're having trouble passing positional parameters to source with csh. If you give me a little more information on why you insist on using a historical relic, and some hope that you're communicating the insanity of this to your partner, I will tell you.02:45
PSGroup41Jordan_Uand Eric: Thank you very much for your help! I am on Ubuntu, I found out that on C shell, the command, source script arg, takes the arg as an empty string. This error does not occur in Linux Red Hat. Is the error documented in the Ubuntu website?02:48
mushir<Jordan_U>:/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 35: /etc/default/grub: GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console: not found02:48
budcan i like, execute fstab to test it without rebooting?02:49
Jordan_Umushir: You need to not include the quotation marks.02:49
Ben64bud: sudo mount -a02:49
Bashing-ombud: Terminal command -> mount -a <- .02:49
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budhmm...02:50
budone of them didn't make it02:50
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Why does your partner insist on csh? Have you told them that using csh for anything written within the last two decades is insane?02:51
PSGroup41Jordan_U: I did told him but he needs official documents.02:52
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Great, I'm glad you've communicated that to him. Can you give me any more insight into why he insists on csh despite this?02:53
PSGroup41Jordan_U: We are working on a project. The project uses the command, source script arg. It does not work. He needs my to provide him Ubuntu website saying that.02:57
linuxuz3rok thanks02:57
EriC^^PSGroup41: is it a school project?02:58
Jordan_UPSGroup41: The command "source script arg" will work great in bash, or /bin/sh (which on Ubuntu is implemented with dash). Why aren't you using either of those shells (which are much more widely available than csh, and have the features you apparently need).02:58
Jordan_U?02:58
pavlosPSGroup41, the command source works ... create a file boo with contents echo $1 make it +x then, source boo hello will print hello02:59
goodluckhi,genius,how to get the lastest created file in a directory02:59
goodlucki mean through a bash script02:59
mushirJordan_u: didn't work .. as I said I have no problem accessing recovery mode form the grub menu my problem is I can't use any of recovery mode options02:59
PSGroup41Eric and Jordan_U: it is a school project. The command does not need to work. I just need to tell him the website indicating that it has this problem in Ubuntu.02:59
pragmaticenigmamushir, a quick google search will give many answers. Here is one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1015678/linux-most-recent-file-in-a-directory03:00
Jordan_Umushir: Could you possibly make a video of this and post it to youtube or similar?03:00
EriC^^PSGroup41: tell him csh doesn't work that way with it's source command, you need to set argv=("arg1", "arg2") then source script.csh and it's as if you did source script.csh arg1 arg203:00
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Ahh, good to know that it's a school project. Is the project relating to ancient UNIX history?03:01
pragmaticenigmaoops... didn't mean to take mushir on that03:01
pragmaticenigmasorry03:01
mushirpragmaticenigma: I posted my problem in ASK UBUNTU but no answers!03:01
PSGroup41pavlos: if boo is a boo.csh, it does not work.03:01
pragmaticenigmagoodluck, , a quick google search will give many answers. Here is one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1015678/linux-most-recent-file-in-a-directory03:01
bootninja_linuxhowdy folks.  any alsa gurus around that might be able to help me get sound working through spdif?03:01
pragmaticenigmabootninja_linux, why aren't you using PulseAudio?03:02
bootninja_linuxgood question03:02
bootninja_linuxI'm running Kodibuntu and It doesn't seem to have been installed by default03:03
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Can you guarantee me that whatever script you're writing isn't intended for anything other than homework? I would hate to be a part of enabling a newly written csh script to be foisted on poor unsuspecting users.03:03
bootninja_linuxalthough I'm wondering if that will solve the issue, since doesn't pulseaudio work off alsa?03:03
mushirJordan_U: I can send you a photo of the screen I get when I try to choose one of recovery options03:03
pragmaticenigmabootninja_linux, we can't support other distrobutions in this channel03:03
daftykinsbootninja_linux: kodibuntu uses pulse as default.03:03
PSGroup41Jordan_U: Thanks, I just need to tell my project partner that the command, source abc.csh arg, does not work on Ubuntu.03:03
pavlosPSGroup41, you're wrong ... I created a file boo.csh first line #!/bin/csh second line echo $1 .... try source boo.csh hello03:03
EriC^^pavlos: type csh first to get a csh shell, it's cause you're using bash's built-in source03:04
Jordan_UPSGroup41: It does work on Ubuntu though, it just doesn't work in csh.03:04
daftykinsbootninja_linux: if you are configuring Kodi to play audio, you should be doing so from *within* Kodi system settings - and probably discussing it in #kodi too.03:04
pragmaticenigmabootninja_linux, PulseAudio is more of a wrapper around ALSA, making it more friendly to other applications03:04
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Can you guarantee me that whatever script you're writing isn't intended for anything other than homework? I would hate to be a part of enabling a newly written csh script to be foisted on poor unsuspecting users.03:04
bootninja_linuxsorry pragmaticenigma  didn't figure it was really a distro centric question03:04
EriC^^PSGroup41: you have to type set argv=("bla") , then type source script.csh , and you can use the arg in it03:04
daftykinsJordan_U: perhaps at this point it should be considered off topic?03:05
mushirJordan_U: here is the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/566471/problem-accessing-recovery-mode-in-ubuntu-14-0403:05
PSGroup41pavlos: I am running the command on C shell.03:05
Ben64daftykins: i'd agree. its for ubuntu 13.04, its insane, ip coming from intel owned block, this is where your i7 dollars go to apparently :|03:05
pavlosEriC^^, I did csh first, got % prompt ... source ./boo.csh hello gives me hello03:06
coffee-hi ubuntu works great on dual boot and was enjoying it, but i need ip cam security software that doesn't cost a fortune?03:06
pragmaticenigmabootninja_linux, even if it's part of the ubuntu family, they can have significant configuration differences. It's best to find the group supporting that spin rather than a general room like this.03:06
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Indeed, since this is a question that is hardly related to Ubuntu at all (however much you might think it is), let's please move it to ##linux or another channel.03:06
pragmaticenigmacoffee-, check out motion03:07
PSGroup41EriC^^: Yes, set argv=("bla") works but the command, source script arg, does not.03:07
coffee-hmm wonder if the software library on ubuntu has webcam software that works with ip cams03:07
EriC^^pavlos: *shrug* doesn't work here03:07
coffee-motion?03:07
coffee-ok will do thank :D03:07
EriC^^PSGroup41: cause source in csh is different than bash's source03:07
coffee-Thanks*03:08
Jordan_UEriC^^: pavlos: Shhh, you're both doing the right thing, and I know exactly why you're getting different results. It's related to why this isn't really an Ubuntu question. Once I have assurance from PSGroup41 I'll spill the beans :)03:08
pavloslol03:08
EriC^^:D03:09
Jordan_UPSGroup41: Please join ##Linux.03:09
daftykinsaww so we don't get to hear the thrilling conclusion :(03:10
Jordan_Udaftykins: I'll post the secret here when I'm done in ##linux :)03:11
daftykins\o/03:11
daftykinsty sir03:11
EriC^^:P03:11
PSGroup41Eric: The command, source script arg works  in Linux Red Hat.03:11
mrbond006WHATTT UPPPP!!!03:12
Jordan_UPSGroup41: This will be the last time I ask before removing you from the channel. This is offtopic for #ubuntu, please join ##linux.03:12
PSGroup41Eric and pavlos: The command, source script arg, does not work on Ubuntu.03:12
mrbond006so deluge has stopped working for me?03:12
shadaloohi my keyboard shortcuts with alt arent working03:12
elkyPSGroup41: please listen to Jordan_U and go to ##linux03:12
Ben64mrbond006: that is not a question we can answer03:12
mrbond006fuck you Ben6403:12
mrbond006there are a 1000 people here03:12
shadalooLOL03:13
mrbond006and someone has to know03:13
Ben64that attitude and language will not get you far here03:13
Jordan_Umrbond006: Please watch your language and attitude here.03:13
mrbond006its a goddamned Ubuntu IRC!!!!!!03:13
mrbond006GODDAMNED03:13
pragmaticenigma!ohmy mrbond00603:13
mrbond006How much more could I ask for?!03:13
mrbond006Jeesh03:13
shadaloohi my keyboard shortcuts with alt arent working03:14
shadalooany ideas03:14
mrbond006hi my keyboard shortcuts with alt arent working03:14
shadaloo-.-03:14
NegativeFlaremrbond006: You might want to leave, or suffer a ban.03:14
mrbond006Fine :(03:14
pragmaticenigmashadaloo, can you please be more specific?03:14
Ben64NegativeFlare: impressive03:14
NegativeFlareBen64: I don't put up with garbage03:15
shadaloopragmaticenigma: I have alt+t launch terminal03:15
shadalooand it is not working03:15
mushir<Jordan_U> : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNYIe9zlMQ&feature=youtu.be03:15
pragmaticenigmashadaloo, have you installed any new programs lately? are you running any programs in the background right now? Does it work if you reboot and right after you login again?03:15
shadaloonah03:16
shadalooim using ubuntu+1 xD03:16
shadaloojust figured I'd try here first03:16
mrbond006Hello call ubuntu call center? I have a problem with my instance of deluge. Can you help me?03:16
Ben64mushir: whoa thats strange03:16
mrbond006You have a 1000 person strong channel someone has to know03:16
mrbond006before i go apeshit03:16
NegativeFlareshadaloo: There's a tool, I forget the name of it. That tells you what keyboard events that X is receiving. Sadly, I can't recall the name of it.03:16
Jordan_UEriC^^: pavlos: daftykins: There are two common implementations of "csh", berkely-csh (Ubuntu grabs the source for this from OpenBSD) and tcsh. tcsh supports positional arguments to source, historical and current OpenBSD csh does not.03:17
EriC^^xev03:17
Ben64NegativeFlare: shadaloo: xev03:17
shadaloomrbond006: use a better client03:17
NegativeFlareah!03:17
NegativeFlareBen64: thanks man03:17
NegativeFlareshadaloo: Try to use xev, it'll tell you if alt is actually being pressed or not03:17
shadalooNegativeFlare: what do you recommend I do with this03:17
mushir<Ben64> : yes very strange but I can't simply reinstall Ubuntu and lose my packages,updates and customization03:18
pragmaticenigmashadaloo, NegativeFlare is suggesting an application to make sure your computer is responding to the Alt key being pressed.03:18
NegativeFlaremhm03:18
Ben64mushir: i haven't really been following along with your problem. what's been going on with your system?03:18
pavlosshadaloo, ctrl-alt t pops a term for me ... 14.0403:18
shadaloopavlos: i think that's the default03:19
Ben64shadaloo: it is indeed03:19
shadalooI open terms often enough to where one less keystroke is worth it03:19
daftykinsJordan_U: interesting, thanks :>03:19
Jordan_Udaftykins: You're welcome.03:19
pragmaticenigmaneat pavlos ... thanks for that tip!03:19
EriC^^Jordan_U: oh i see03:19
shadaloopragmaticenigma: alt is working03:19
mushirBen64: I can get to the recovery mode screen in the grub menu but when I try to navigate through the options using up or down, I get this black screen with weird text in the middle of my screen so I simply can't navigate through the options.03:19
Ben64shadaloo: does ctrl+alt+t still open a terminal03:19
Ben64mushir: yeah i got that, but why are you trying to get to the recovery mode in the first place03:19
shadalooBen64: when I rebind to ctrl+alt+t yes it does work again03:20
mushirBen64: I think it is wise to make sure that recovery mode is working just in case of any problem03:21
shadaloowhen I hold alt I see the options listed in the top panel03:21
shadaloobut that's not how it used to behave03:21
Ben64shadaloo: that is standard behavior03:21
Jordan_Umushir: Interesting, Can you boot normally and try some programs that use ncurses from the normally booted system?03:21
budhow do i force a user to use a certain window manager? when i remote desktop my server it's using the default WM and i want it to use xfce03:22
Ben64shadaloo: wait you're on vivid?03:22
shadalooBen64: yes03:23
Ben64gotta ask that in #ubuntu+1 then03:23
shadaloono one ever answers there -.-03:23
Ben64tis the risk of running unreleased ubuntus03:23
mushir<Jordan_U>: I'm not sure is I get your question but yes my system is ok and I can boot normally03:23
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mushirJordan_U: I can boot normally plz can you tell me how to test programs that use ncurses ?!03:26
Jordan_Umushir: I'm trying to think of a good example that comes with Ubuntu and would test a similar menu to the recovery mode one. "tasksel" would be good, but doesn't come with Ubuntu by default (you can install it though).03:27
SquarismHey.. any looong time ubuntu users here? Im wondering if you've seen big improvements to ubuntu Desktop during the years? Some issues strikes me as : wow, why is that still so! Like the need for the "unsupported" ccsm manager. Hardware support - i get the feeling there must be support for the hardware in the distribution or it wont play. I think Windows update handles hardware nice - with repos keeping03:28
Squarismdrivers and the search functionality.03:28
NegativeFlareSquarism: man, don't even get me started. I started using Ubuntu back in dapper drake. I've seen TONS of improvements.03:29
daftykinsSquarism: anyone who knows how to use Windows properly, does not trust drivers from WU. similarly, anyone who knows Ubuntu is very select about drivers.03:29
AdrienneSquarism: I would say that yes, it has improved significantly.03:29
daftykinsSquarism: also, running AMD graphics? that's an unwise move :>03:30
Ben64Squarism: there is no need for ccsm, hardware support exceeds windows' by a huge margin03:30
mushirJordan_U: tasksel: debconf failed to run03:30
Jordan_Umushir: sudo tasksel03:31
SquarismBen64, i cannot very well bind / unbind the overcrowded assigned keyboard shortcuts wo ccsm manager. Many which conflict with popular software03:31
Ben64Squarism: you don't need to use compiz at all03:32
Squarismthanks for your perspective!03:32
SquarismWhat should i use instead?03:32
Ben64gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, whatever else03:33
Jordan_USquarism: KDE is much better with options to change keyboard shortcuts. I think that GNOME Shell may even be better with that particular aspect than Unity.03:33
pavlosmushir, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata03:33
mushirJordan_U: when I select any of servers from the list to install I get back to terminal03:33
SquarismI thought unity was a move in the right direction? Away from X11?03:33
budwhat do i do when i get 'no such file' when trying to start/stop a service listed in /init.d ?03:34
shadaloois there another place to bind shortcuts aside from "Keyboard"03:34
budspecifically chrome-remote-desktop03:34
shadaloolike compiz or something?03:34
Jordan_USquarism: Mir, which is used by "Unity 8", is a replacement for X11. But neither are finished or used in Ubuntu by default yet.03:35
Ben64shadaloo: you should really be asking in #ubuntu+1 ...03:35
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mushirpavlos: no problem I think with programs that use ncurses03:35
pavlosok03:35
shadalooBen64: no one is there yo03:36
Jordan_Umushir: Try in a tty.03:36
Ben64shadaloo: then don't use vivid if you want support03:36
shadalooBen64: I don't want other's help bad enough to use old code xD03:37
littlegirlHey there, if I do ls -l /dev/tty I find 98 files. What are those for?03:37
Ben64shadaloo: spoiler- you're already using old code.03:37
mushirJordan_U : no problem I think with programs that use ncurses .. any ideas ??03:37
shadalooBen64: to clarify03:37
shadalooOld linux kernal code03:38
Ben64!latest | shadaloo03:38
ubottushadaloo: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.03:38
shadaloo!sru03:38
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates03:38
littlegirlHey there, if I do ls -l /dev/tty I find 98 files. What are those for?03:38
budlittlegirl, try http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8514735/what-is-special-about-dev-tty03:40
Jordan_Umushir: Did you try logging into a tty (press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a tty, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to a GUI) and running tasksel?03:40
budwhat do i do when i get 'no such file' when trying to start/stop a service listed in /init.d ? specifically chrome-remote-desktop03:41
littlegirlThanks, bud. (:03:41
daftykinsbud: perhaps the name is wrong, check service status to see a full list of actual ones03:41
Jordan_Ubud: What guide are you trying to follow? You should generally use "service" rather than running scripts from /etc/init.d/ directly, but I don't know what chrome-remote-desktop even is.03:42
budJordan_U, trying to make chrome-remote-desktop use xfce instead of unity via https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/-7iefS2yN2003:43
nicomachushey guys, I got an error booting and I'm not sure if it's a bad kernel, my HDD, or my mobo...03:43
nicomachusimgur.com/CDNimzK03:43
budJordan_U, chrome remote desktop a remote desktop server. i'll just reboot the system since i can't seem to stop then restart the service lol03:45
OnceMehell03:45
OnceMeodoes ImageViewer have slideshow option03:45
OnceMeand how>?\03:45
budJordan_U, it says 'chrome-remote-desktop' plain as day in init.d but when i try and run it it says it's not found. *shrug*03:45
EriC^^nicomachus: probably a bad kernel, hold shift to get grub and choose an older one03:46
budJordan_U, nevermind, apparently i'm a complete idiot03:47
Jordan_Ubud: What is the exact command you're running?03:47
budJordan_U, i was spelling it wrong. sorry.03:48
ErayHello, I have a problem about default file permissions. When I download a file from internet, have permission -rw-r-----. Because of this Apache give 403 error for images. When I add an image, I should use `chmod` for each time. Is there a way for getting permission from folder03:50
jamie_Does anyone have problem with firefox and live streaming03:50
mushirJordan_U : no problem I think with programs that use ncurses .. any ideas ??03:51
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EriC^^Eray: what do you want the downloaded files to have as permissions?03:55
Jordan_Umushir: What happens if you run /lib/recovery-mode/recovery-menu in a gnome-terminal window? At a tty?03:56
ErayEriC^^: because Apache. When I downloaded an image(for example a background), I need type "chmod". Without this Apache give 403 Forbidden03:57
Jordan_Umushir: Note, to quit recovery-menu simply select the "resume" option.03:57
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EriC^^Eray: ok, if you're downloading the file somewhere, then type umask <opposite bits of what you want>, then start firefox, whatever you download will have those permissions, like umask 000 is as if you did chmod 777 after you downloaded the file03:59
pavlosEray, what are the perms of the dir where images go?03:59
jamie_Im not sure if this is a computer bug or a linux build specific but, But live stream does not play correctly on fire fox03:59
EriC^^Eray: so open a terminal, type umask 000, then type firefox in the terminal04:00
Eraypavlos: /assets -> 77704:00
ErayEriC^^: Thank you, i'm trying... :)04:00
ErayEriC^^: same permission, 403 :(04:02
daftykinsjamie_: you're going to have to be more specific04:03
PlasmastarFFFF04:03
jamie_daftykins: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113060804:03
Erayassets/: drwxrwxrwx assets/newly-dowloaded.png: -rw-r------04:04
jamie_daftykins: that sould explain it for the most part04:04
toastee1I have a really weird issue... just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. my audio chipset is an Intel H61 and I'm using the HDMI output. Audio works fine the *second* time I test the speakers in System Settings, but not the first. Audio works fine in XBMC, but nowhere else on the system (Chrome, Firefox, etc.).. I've tried a bunch of different solutions like reinstalling alsa, killing pulseaudio, deleting pulseaudio config...can't figure it out. Any ideas?04:04
daftykinsjamie_: considered taking it to mozilla's channels then? since it's not necessarily ubuntu at fault?04:04
jamie_daftykins: i am here from mozilla to ask... lol it might just be ubuntu04:04
daftykinsjamie_: feel free to confirm cross-distro04:05
daftykinsbut a browser is a browser04:05
EriC^^Eray: you need it to be what perms?04:05
ErayEriC^^: 77504:05
jamie_daftykins: the firefox browser on ubuntu is ubuntu specific04:05
ubottuMozilla bug 1130608 in Untriaged "while running live stream on firefox browser it freezes playback randomly" [Normal,Unconfirmed]04:05
daftykinsjamie_: only through some minor aesthetic extensions, disable them then test again. bet it won't change.04:06
pavlosEray, make your umask 00204:06
EriC^^pavlos: apparently umask won't allow files to be executable upon creation04:06
mac__hy all.. my keyboard in ubuntu is constantly changin language inputs... helo wanted04:06
mac__hy all.. my keyboard in ubuntu is constantly changin language inputs... help wanted04:06
jamie_daftykins: okay, i was asking because this is not happening on windows according to another, and i cant seem to find anyone else currenrly that is on linux to see if its happening04:07
ErayEriC^^: Executable is not necessary, I think read is enough for Apache, maybe I'm wrong sorry04:07
jamie_daftykins: thanks anyway04:09
daftykinsjamie_: well, the key variable there might be that flash is v16 on Windows whilst it's dead on Linux04:09
EriC^^Eray: try as pavlos suggested04:09
daftykinsjamie_: could always hop in a few other distros channels and hope a kind soul will test whatever video this happens on?04:09
jamie_its any live stream04:09
jamie_but thanks04:10
Jordan_Ujamie_: I'll try to test, but I'm currently using a more than decade old machine, so it's hard to tell if it would work anyway :)04:10
jamie_thanks04:10
Eraypavlos: When I type umask only its return 0002(002), I typed `umask 002` and tried download file from internet. Same permissions; -rw-r------04:10
jahjahyo04:11
yodaI know freebsd has mount_hfs in it but is there a package out there for linux that allows one to read/write/mount HFS/HFS+ i.e mac based files systems on a linux machine. I know I used mount_ntfs and ntfs tools for linux to work with windows based file systems04:11
jahjahyo im using x11vnc (as server) and bvnc (client, on android) to control youtube on my tv so i can watch from my bed without getting up.  but bvnc always wants to *try* to display flash's output, which its not fast enough for, and inevitably crashes it.  can i get bvnc to quit trying to display flash?  i can see what's going on via the tv.  i just need it to be a remote mouse and keyboard04:11
Jordan_Ujamie_: It may be an issue with the older version of flash used by Firefox (but not Chrome/Chromium) on linux.04:12
pavlosEray, stange since I did the same thing and my perm is 66404:12
pavlos*strange04:13
jahjahwell on the phone when it tries to display the video, it skips alot of frames.  which is ok cause im watching it on the tv where it does not04:13
mac__hy all.. my keyboard in ubuntu is constantly changin language inputs... help wanted04:14
jamie_sorry to the person who was helping me, had to switch from my computer to my flame04:15
antdedyethey, is there a laptop in the $300 range with a good ubuntu config?04:15
Eraypavlos: ahh, my fail.... :) I started browser again from terminal and now permissions is: -rw-rw-r-- . Thank you04:15
pavlosgreat!04:15
Eraypavlos: my last question :) is that umask `permanent` or i need type always ?04:16
jahjahi got this dell mini 9 for $100.  great at linux.  ironically sux @winblows (which it actually comes with)04:16
jamie_antdedyet: just about any other than a Mac or chrome book04:16
jamie_and Mac you might even be able to I s04:17
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jamie_I don't mess with Macs04:17
pavlosEray, I think you can set it up in your /etc/profile04:17
antdedyetya, i was hoping to buy one with ubuntu pre-installed, but the market is pretty rare so i have collected. guess I will search the web.04:17
antdedyethow is Canonical doing? I haven't been in the news since 2010 or 200904:18
ErayOK, thank you for all help, pavlos and EriC^^ . Have a nice day ^^04:18
pavlosEray, see pam_umask(8)04:18
Jordan_Ujamie_: I'm just getting a loop of commercials followed by a few seconds of "We'll be right back" screen at the moment.04:18
yodaso is there something for linux that allows one to read/write/mount ...etc mac file system format04:18
jamie_widows the circle pop up04:19
degvaHi guys, just executed this: sudo mkfs.vfat -I -n 'USB JL' /dev/sdb to a second partition by mistake which was ntfs and now I cannot access it04:19
jahjahu talking like drivers?  check forums mainly.  compile a list of laptops u want in ur price range and preference, then research them as far as driver difficulties and stuff04:19
jahjahreally just drivers i think04:19
jamie_jordan_U: does a circle for buffering pop up randomly?04:19
degvaHope I can restore my files at least04:20
Jordan_Ujamie_: I've gotten past the commercials now, and it does seem that I can reproduce the problem. And yes, I see a circle for buffering.04:20
jahjahusually i get secondhand computers and laptops and its like something wont work on original installation, but i look it up and find someone has already solved it.04:20
siacHow to set the background of the panel in KDE? I don't like transparency in the panel04:20
jahjahoh.  trying to install ubuntu on a mac?  dunno.  once installed debian on an old macbook.  was cool until i tried to forcibly upgrade the hard drive.  but broke the whole frame trying to get to it04:21
yodawell sort of yes is there a file system driver for linux that can read and write ..mount  mac file systems like mount_hfs ...etc that bsd unix  has04:21
jamie_jordan_U: :) thanks, much abliged, I have been trying to finish this bug report all day, thanks04:21
jahjahi hate apple laptops anyway.  they try to make it impossible to upgrade them04:22
kudu_Just wondering… why the hell is BIND pre-installed on Ubuntu Server?04:22
Jordan_Ujamie_: You're welcome. I'm trying to see if it works in Chrome or not.04:22
daftykinsjahjah: #ubuntu-offtopic for more of the chat aspect, support only here :)04:22
jamie_jordan_U: by any chance do you know what version you are on and the channel?04:22
jahjahanyway im goin back to youtube.  guess ill just keep resetting the vnc over and over and over...04:23
jamie_jordan_U: this is much appricated04:24
Jordan_Ujamie_: Mozilla Firefox 35.0.1, from Ubuntu 14.04 .04:25
jamie_okay that works, you are on 35.0.1 probably central channel04:26
Jordan_Ujamie_: In Chrome that site claims that I don't have flash installed (which is incorrect). Doesn't seem like a great website. How would I confirm the "channel"?04:26
jamie_jordan_U: when you go into about Firefox from help tab it should say under the version04:27
jamie_jordan_U: the funny thing about this website is that it is one is the official Philly weather channels.. Lil04:28
jamie_lol04:28
hehekid1hello?04:31
hehekid1nobody talks much do they04:31
jamie_we do04:31
antdedyetyep04:31
Jordan_Ujamie_: http://i.imgur.com/PX9Vi2Y.png04:31
jamie_jordan_U: .... duh... now I feel dumb... I just stated that there is a Firefox for ubuny04:33
jamie_and then forgot.. you are on the Ubuntu channel...04:33
jamie_jordan_U: thanks for the help, greatly appriciated04:35
Jordan_Ujamie_: You're welcome. Thank you for working on the bug :)04:36
some_goliardHello. I am on Ubuntu 10.04 on an x86 desktop PC. I want to upgrade to version 12.04 and 14.04, will apt-get dist-upgrade work ?04:37
cfhowlettsome_goliard, yes04:37
cfhowlettsome_goliard, wait, IF it's a server, yes04:37
daftykinssome_goliard: it would make far more sense to backup and clean install.04:37
jamie_jordan_U: my goal is to makesure that it works just as well if not better on Ubuntu as it dose on windows04:38
cfhowlettsome_goliard, so: end of life upgrade is one option: 10.04 > 12.04 OR .torrent the 12.04 iso and clean install04:38
Jordan_Usome_goliard: cfhowlett: NO. "apt-get dist-upgrade" is not used for upgrading between Ubuntu releases.04:38
Jordan_U!upgrade | some_goliard04:38
ubottusome_goliard: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade04:38
some_goliardI am on desktop. I know it says only server for 10.04 in the topic04:38
cfhowlettJordan_U, doh!!!! right.  dang.  gotta coffee.  thanks.  some_goliard sorry for giving bad advice04:38
some_goliardI lost my 12.04 CD and the machine was very old already so I though v10 was the right start04:38
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | some_goliard,04:39
ubottusome_goliard,: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:39
dark_applehow can make mouase work?04:40
meccoolli added myself to a group but groups command still doesn't list it04:40
dark_applemouase work on xp not work on ubuntu04:41
Jordan_Usome_goliard: Going with older linux distributions for older hardware is almost never the right approach. That's the Windows/OSX approach. For GNU/Linux you should just look for lighter versions of up to date releases, like Lubuntu or Xubuntu. I can almost guarantee that the Xubuntu 14.04 laptop I'm using to talk to you right now is older and lower spec than what you're using :)04:41
jamie_jordan_U: this is gonna be added to the bug report, thanks again for the help im off for now to get back to firefox   p04:41
Jordan_Ujamie_: You're welcome :)04:41
dark_applewhy cant mouase work on ubuntu? :'(04:42
cfhowlett!mouse | dark_apple04:42
ubottudark_apple: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:42
some_goliardNevermind everyone, the update manage finally caught up to the existence of 12.04 and is now prompting me for an OS upgrade04:42
dark_applei will get virus on link? please not install virus04:43
dark_appleomg, i'm so drunk! i don't even have a mouse! hehe04:43
cfhowlettdark_apple, come back when you are sober so we don't waste peoples time.04:43
dark_appleum... ok04:44
some_goliardand also, I know this is not the best approach for I am not operating in the best conditions right now. Normally I would have a 12.04 cd04:44
dark_applebye all!04:44
pavlosmeccooll, pop another term and try groups04:44
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cfhowlettsome_goliard, understood.  Jordan_U advised you to look at lubuntu/xubuntu for your older hardware.  I tend to agree.04:44
Jordan_Usome_goliard: If you were going to install rather than upgrading I would definitely just install Ubuntu 14.04 and not bother with 12.04.04:44
meccooll9107hm04:45
some_goliard14.04 has not quite passed the test yet as far as I am concerned04:45
some_goliardalthough I'm using it on my laptop right now04:46
daftykinssome_goliard: well do be sure to phone Canonical when it does, i'm sure they'll be thrilled :)04:46
some_goliardthere is a reason there are many supported LTS versions at the same time04:47
consolidatedmy 14.04 install is now depressed...04:51
consolidatedfeels like it's failed04:51
Jordan_Usome_goliard: Yes. People who tend to want to run LTS releases also tend to want to be able to plan their upgrades long in advance. If there weren't large overlap between support for LTS releases then users would only have a small window to upgrade in.04:51
some_goliardWhile I'm here, I seem to have disabled the Alt+Tab feature. I'm in Ubuntu 14.04, under Gnome-classics04:57
meccoollpavlos, "meccooll, pop another term and try groups" huh05:00
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pavlosmeccooll, start another terminal and then type 'groups' in response to ... i added myself to a group but groups command still doesn't list it05:05
ianorlinpavlos, have you logged out and logged back in?05:05
pavlosianorlin, no05:06
ianorlinyou need to do that for group changes to happen05:06
retroisprestoHow do I edit the .bash_history or .history so It doesn't keep any record of the edits (including time)05:20
nick___when I run "file bzImage" I get the following message: "bzImage: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 3.10.18 (tom@i7) #2 SMP Fri Feb 6 00:14:45 EST 2015, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x4, Normal VGA" .. what does the #2 before SMP mean?05:21
NotErik2Qhatip05:23
NotErik2Whattuop05:23
NotErik2In drumk05:23
NotErik2Fuck05:24
daftykinsNotErik2: take it elsewhere then please.05:24
daftykinsno drunks in #ubuntu :)05:24
NotErik2Okay mommy05:24
retroisprestoo.o05:24
NotErik2Whatcha all wanna talk about?05:24
NotErik2Best porno?05:25
daftykinsNotErik2: nothing. chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic. BETTER people than you have tried, beleve me.05:25
daftykinsbelieve too05:25
NotErik2Fine ill go there im new to irc05:25
daftykinswise move05:25
NotErik2Im lonely i just want someone to talk with05:26
daftykinsbye bye05:26
NotErik2Fuck you05:26
daftykinswell now, that's not polite05:26
daftykinsyay \o/05:26
some_goliardbye.05:28
mushirStill looking for solution and still no use : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNYIe9zlMQ&feature=youtu.be05:37
lotuspsychjemushir: did you try failsafeX or fix broken packages?05:38
lotuspsychje!recovery | mushir05:38
ubottumushir: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode05:38
nuget102Hey, can anyone help me a bit? :p05:40
lotuspsychjenuget102: if you ask your issue mate05:40
nuget102My girlfriend recently updated her linux (ubuntu of course) up to 14.04 and now the bluetooth isn't working. I've looked in the bios and it's enabled there but in the bluetooth settings on linux it doesn't give us the option to turn it on.05:41
nuget102I've been searching around but I haven't really found anything that fixes it so far.05:41
mushirlotuspsychje : my problem is navigating through recovery mode options the screen turns black and freezes!05:42
lotuspsychjenuget102: additional drivers sections show anything usefull?05:42
lotuspsychjemushir: ubuntu version?05:42
mushir14.04 LLTS05:42
nuget102Nope, noting in additional drivers that looks like could be the cause. Let me check again though.05:42
lotuspsychje!bluetooth | nuget10205:42
ubottunuget102: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup05:42
nuget102Thanks, I'll look through that real fast.05:43
lotuspsychjemushir: what kind of graphics card do you have?05:43
mushirintel GMA 300005:43
lotuspsychjemushir: did you install ubuntu with internet/updates enabled?05:44
lotuspsychjenuget102: doublecheck also dmesg and syslog logs, for bluetooth usefull errors05:45
mushirno I believe I didn't .. but I never had this problem for 4 months05:45
lotuspsychjemushir: recently updated?05:46
mushiryes05:46
nuget102So uh, it says with dell laptops I need to go through windows and install drivers on windows....?05:47
lotuspsychjemushir: graphics driver might have corrupted system05:47
nuget102For it to work with linux...?05:47
lotuspsychjenuget102: i never tested this myself, but if the page says so..05:47
mushirlotuspsychje : so you are telling me I have to reinstall??05:47
nuget102Well, that's a problem.. Guess I'll have to live without bluetooth...05:48
lotuspsychjemushir: well to be sure wich driver check sudo lshw -C video first05:48
nuget102I'll still try following what rest of the page says to do, but the problem is I don't have windows... xD05:48
nuget102Well, my girlfriend doesn't.05:48
lotuspsychjenuget102: thats a good thing :p05:49
lotuspsychjenuget102: i would concentrate on your logs, and see if anything usefull shows there05:49
nuget102Yea, I'm trying to follow that installation guide but uh...05:50
lotuspsychjemushir: this is what i would do, reinstall 14.04 fresh with internet/updates enabled and compare graphics drivers from the one now05:50
nuget102I've hit a wall.. It's not showing my bluetooth device :P05:50
nuget102Oh woops, I was looking at 10.04...05:50
mushir*-display05:51
mushir       description: VGA compatible controller05:51
mushir       product: 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller05:51
mushir       vendor: Intel Corporation05:51
mushir       physical id: 205:51
mushir       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.005:51
lotuspsychjenuget102: did you also check your startup items for bluetooth to start?05:51
lotuspsychjemushir: check the lines behind driver=05:51
nuget102I actually don't know how to look at startup items.05:51
nuget102It's been about a year since I last used linux, my girlfriend's been using it more than me...05:52
lotuspsychjenuget102: there'a an icon for it startup items05:52
nuget102blueman applet?05:52
mushirresources: irq:42 memory:d0000000-d00fffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:1c20(size=8)05:52
lotuspsychjenuget102: paste this in your terminal to see full startup items list: sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop05:52
lotuspsychjemushir: what does lshw -C video say after line driver=05:53
nuget102loutuspsychje: That brought up nothing05:54
lotuspsychjenuget102: no not the blueman, your dash icon left corner up, then search for startup items icon05:54
nuget102Wait oh05:54
nuget102It did sorry :P05:54
mushir driver=i915 latency=005:54
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lotuspsychjemushir: ok, i would try a fresh 14.04 reinstall05:55
lotuspsychjemushir: maybe your system has leftovers from previous ubuntu?05:55
dingus1what desktop is he using?05:55
lotuspsychjedingus1: unity, 14.0405:55
mushirlotuspsychje : I really don't want to reinstall as I made a lot of customizations and updates05:55
lotuspsychjemushir: if recoverymode cant help you out...05:56
dingus1the paste this in a terminal equals zero output for me.05:56
dingus1I am running LXDE and it does not have a menu for startup?05:56
lotuspsychjemushir: try that fix broken packages option in recoverymode05:57
dingus1oops, I am running ubuntu 14.1005:58
dingus1it is kinda different.05:58
mushirlotuspsychje : perhaps you didn't get me ! this my problem man... i cna't use ANY options in revovery mode05:58
lotuspsychjemushir: if you cant boot into recovery options anymore, i would go for reinstall05:59
lotuspsychjemushir: can you access a terminal from recovery?05:59
mushirno06:00
lotuspsychjemushir: then try a nomodeset maybe06:00
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | mushir06:00
ubottumushir: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:00
mushirubottu : I will check and see06:01
ubottumushir: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:01
daftykinshehe :>06:01
lotuspsychje:p06:02
dingus1I love ubottu.06:02
divBy0hey, im trying to set up shortcuts so applications run from the search menu and i dont have to run from terminal. someone pointed this out to me, but its for gnome and im on unity. suggestions?06:09
divBy0https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html06:09
MuffinMedicIs there a way to do a grep search for distinct?06:10
lotuspsychjedivBy0: not really what you ask, but there's a handy classicmenu-indicator for unity06:11
lotuspsychje!info classicmenu-indicator | divBy006:12
ubottudivBy0: classicmenu-indicator (source: classicmenu-indicator): indicator showing the main menu from Gnome Classic. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.07-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 8 kB, installed size 105 kB06:12
divBy0:/06:13
avishow do i change folder colors in ubuntu 14.04 ?06:14
avisgnome-icon-theme no longer works for that06:14
lotuspsychje!themes | avis06:14
ubottuavis: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:14
raviHi, anybody know which is the best ftp?06:15
divBy0avis: i use an installed theme wit unity tweak tool06:15
divBy0avis: then you can extract the .gresource files and edit individual colors or just load folder packs06:16
divBy0ravi: my favorite has always been filezilla06:16
neoarkwhat is syntax for adding addtional ipv6?06:16
ravithanks divBy006:17
divBy0!filezilla | ravi06:17
neoarki tried up /sbin/ip -6 addr add but doesn't bring up ipv606:17
divBy0welcome ravi06:17
AndroUserHello all, this is a test, am i visible here?06:22
SchrodingersScatAndroUser: received06:23
AndroUserThank you SchrodingerScat06:23
daftykinsuse #test in future06:24
SchrodingersScat!test06:26
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )06:26
usr0Guys is this possible to forward a port through proxy-connection?06:29
daftykinsa proxy is typically for HTTP traffic06:29
daftykinsports are forwarded over VPNs, not proxies06:30
usr0daftykins: I've heard that SOCKS is able to work with any type of traffic06:31
daftykinsif so, you could've done it by now in the time it's taken to discuss it :)06:31
SchrodingersScatusr0: is 'reverse tunnel' something like what you want?06:33
SchrodingersScat!ssh06:33
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)06:33
usr0SchrodingersScat: well, maybe :-). I'll try it.06:34
SchrodingersScatusr0: not sure what you're actually trying to do.06:36
usr0SchrodingersScat: i have two machines with different default gateways. On the first machine I have a program. For example torrent client. But it's default gateway has grey IP thus no one can establish connection to this machine from the Internet06:41
usr0So I use the second machine with white IP. I forwarded a port to the first machine, but it doesn't work because of different default gateway06:42
daftykinsyou should probably be in ##networking for that one06:43
usr0As far as I understand, other computers try to connect to the 1st machine through it's default gateway but not through the second's one.06:44
djangousr0: assuming your routes are correctly set up, you should be able to use iptables to forward it. If I understood your case scenario.06:45
usr0Yes, I use iptables06:46
QwertieHi06:53
freeroute!search steam06:58
ubottuFound: steam, mootbot06:58
freeroute!search precise steam06:58
ubottuFound:06:58
freeroute-_-06:59
freerouteso there's no steam for precise?06:59
Deep6hey guys, is this the support channel or snappy as well?07:05
daftykinsnah07:05
daftykinsthink it has its' own07:05
VyomDeep6: Just support.. no fun... for fun goto #ubuntu-offtopic07:06
Deep6daftykins: do you know it?07:08
Deep6or can anyone here point me to a channel for it, can't do a cli setup of my wireless on snappy07:08
daftykinsi'd have said it if i do07:09
daftykins!alis07:09
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*07:09
daftykinstry this07:09
FlannelDeep6: Try #snappy  There's 64 people there, so it doesn't look dead!07:09
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glogicUnless they're all idling. :)07:10
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QwertieHow do I find the key for home folder encryption?07:11
Deep6 /join #snappy07:11
Deep6oops07:11
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divBy0im running into some backup errors with deja dup. they appear to be simple permissions issues but are they safe to change07:21
divBy0http://paste.ubuntu.com/10104961/07:21
billyJoekali07:26
billyJoelinux rules07:26
cfhowlett!kali | billyJoe07:26
ubottubillyJoe: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)07:26
knoppixhola07:31
kudu_I'm trying to run deluged; the service says it starts, but the status says it isn't running07:37
cfhowlettkudu_, start from command line, observe errors07:38
jayjoIm reading grep docs, how do I search an entire directory for a string?07:39
jayjoi keep geting "is a directory"07:39
jayjo-r didn't work07:39
jayjoit just spit a whole bunch out07:39
jayjosorry07:39
kudu_cfhowlett: there are now07:40
agent_whitejayjo: `grep -rnw /path/to/some/dir -e "yourstring"`07:40
kudu_*none07:40
kudu_`deluged` runs fine from the proper user07:40
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Datwhere can I get the apt deb for ubuntu ?07:59
cfhowlettDat, ubuntu is composed of hundreds of .debs ... clarify.08:00
Datwhere can I download the apt deb from for you ubunntu?08:13
cfhowlettDat, sudo apt-get install aptitude08:14
Datapt-get no such command08:14
cfhowlettdat apt-get INSTALL08:14
Datapt-get no such command08:15
mach20xWhat application would I need to create and manage a mesh network across a multitude of devices securely?08:16
cfhowlettmach20x, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server          ?  if no answer here, that is08:16
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mach20xto install not create, but you know it's been on my mind08:16
mach20xok08:16
Datso no locate to the apt or apt-get deb?08:17
cfhowlettDat, lsb_release -a08:17
Datlsb_release: Command not found.08:18
cfhowlettDat, you are not using ubuntu08:18
Dati am08:19
DatI use 12.0408:19
Dat32bit08:19
cfhowlett!info apt | dat08:20
ubottudat: apt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.9.2ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 974 kB, installed size 3667 kB08:20
divBy0any recommendations for best free cloud storage with most space?08:29
Dathrmm08:30
cfhowlettdivBy0, DIY = owncloud08:30
Dati think I will just reinstall the system08:30
mach20xwhat is the apt-get command for divBy0?08:32
divBy0cfhowlett: thanks. i think last time you recommended it but it wasn't make sense to me what you were saying... this looks really good ill check it out08:34
cfhowlettdivBy0, sorry I was unclear.  wait 1 --- I'll see if there's a wiki.  for reference: DIY means "do it yourself"08:35
divBy0cfhowlett: oh ok thanks08:36
cfhowlettdivBy0, www.owncloud.org08:36
mach20xwhats the best app on ubuntu for communication with my android device? it is not recognizing it as being connected in the USB interface.08:51
stangelandMy machines are running really slow and i am suspecting it is because of memory is full. When i run free -m i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10105939/  so 156MB free.....So there is still something left...but i still think thats the problem....is there any way to see how much time is spent on swapping memory?08:52
MrElendigstangeland: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/08:55
MrElendigstangeland: you are looking at the wrong number08:55
MrElendigyou have 13451MiB free08:56
MrElendigI wish ubuntu would update its util-linux already, the new one have a less confusing format08:56
glogicstangeland: Consider also your desktop environment. Heavier (prettier ones with effects) will use more resources and contribute to perceived slowdown.08:57
stangelandglogic, i dont terminal only. its a server08:58
Tzunamiiheh08:58
agent_whitemach20x: Personally, I found most ways connecting it to be too annoying and just installed SSHDroid on my android so I could just ssh into it :)08:58
glogicstangeland: then you can safely ignore my comment. :D08:59
stangelandMrElendig, mmm ok what is the 156 mb then?08:59
MrElendigstangeland: free as in not used for anything08:59
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MrElendigstangeland: read the link :p08:59
jishjishhi all, I want to move a family member to linux. My only issue is a program called family tree maker 6 for windows. I can't work out a linux program that would be able to read files for that. Can anyone recommend a genealogy program for linux whis is easy to use?09:00
mach20xagent_white: A good idea as any I suppose09:00
MrElendiga UML editor would work, but be less fancy09:00
Flanneljishjish: gramps https://gramps-project.org/09:01
stangelandMrElendig, hmm i see...i wonder why its so insanely slow then09:01
MrElendigelse google says eg http://en.ancestris.org/index.php?title=Main_Page09:02
MrElendigstangeland: iotop, htop, atop and so on09:02
ErC2hi09:02
MrElendigstangeland: define "slow" btw09:02
stangelandMrElendig, slow as in the processes running on it takes forever to finish09:03
agent_whitemach20x: Yeah I just got annoyed tinkering with udev rules, getting the device to use MTP, etc.  There may be other options out there, but the SSHDroid route is simple and works :)09:03
ErC2I want to ask something about font named 'Technic'. It seem that Ubuntu cant show the font . here the link for the font .09:04
MrElendigmach20x: cifs09:04
ErC2Any suggestion from people here ?09:04
MrElendigmach20x: if you just want file transfer09:04
MrElendigmach20x: or bt09:04
mach20xMTP seems to work fine I'm trying to make a key sync though09:04
ErC2sorry here the link http://www.azfonts.net/load_font/1196841855_technic.html09:04
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mach20xMTP doesn't quite cut the mustard, as I can't get to the storage I need for this transaction09:05
mach20xI'm thinking I will have to use ADB, but I'm not sure of the CLI command I need to use to get it to interface09:07
ErC2Anybody ?09:11
lug205bonjour09:11
zabraszia09:12
corp002huhy, I have a little problem. I do not have sound in may laptop. Here running lubuntu, 32 bit. in the alsamixer all option is max. anybody idea?09:12
corp002husorry my bad english, im a hungaryan09:13
agent_whiteErC2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Manually09:13
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cfhowlett!hungarian | corp002hu09:14
ubottucorp002hu: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál09:14
jishjishthanks MrElendig and Flannel for suggesting gramps and ancestris. I will try those out.09:15
corp002huI try, but no one reply me09:15
cfhowlettmach20x, android-tools-adb09:17
ch4rl3yhi09:21
ErC2I have installed the Font but it still appear as rectangle . Here the snapshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/dku8gz1p10sfhi7/Font.jpg?dl=009:22
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ErC2is it only at my ubuntu or someone's ubuntu cant show the font too ?09:30
idundiditErC2, I searched for your font on the net, interestingly I found a website which displays it in all squares like your charmap.09:31
idundidithttp://font-db.com/font/technic/5521709:31
idundiditErC2, several sites do http://fontsgeek.com/fonts/Technic-Regular09:32
jishjishone other thing is stopping me moving a family member from windows to ubuntu. They use telstra bigpond email on windows. I don't know if I should tell them just to A) forget that email and setup a webmail account like Google. Or if there are some instructions somewhere so I could create a gmail account and get Gmail to pull the emails from bigpond.09:33
jishjish (only problem with option B) is when I did this for hotmail it suddenly stopped working one day. Anyone have any ideas on the best way to approach this?09:33
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cfhowlettjishjish, ubuntu + virtualbox + windows + windows apps = win09:34
bytemoin09:34
idundiditcfhowlett, that's unnecessary complications for someone who just wants a working computer09:34
cfhowlettidundidit, feel free to provide the alternative09:35
jishjishcfhowlett: I would prefer to just be using ubuntu, but yes I am aware that is an option.09:35
idundiditI would try, but I've never even heard of telstra bigpond email before.09:35
jishjishmaybe telling them to scrap their current email which is non webmail is the easiest, then I can set them up a Gmail on ubuntu or a chromebook.09:35
idundiditOr maybe Windows is more suited for them? What's the situation for migrating anyways?09:36
jishjishI guess I can call telstra, though I've never found them to be very technical so I don't know if they could help.09:36
jishjishwell they are wanting a new computer and I feel once something like an ubuntu or a chromebook is setup they won't have to worry about windows and viruses, and they only really use it for 1) photos, 2) web browsing 3) genealogy09:37
jishjishI feel like using linux will A) use less resources and B) the laptop can be smaller and lighter for them and C) there will be less they can stuff up amd D) linux doesn't stuff up over time like windows n registry.09:39
jishjishidundidit: Thoughts? Do you agree?09:40
idundiditYes, if it's cost efficient and can help their productivity.09:40
idundiditIf it's a hassle/big learning curve, or slows them down, then not necessarily.09:41
idundiditThere's always a learning curve when migrating from Windows or OSX to a Linux based system.09:41
jishjishThis is true I guess I can try it and see how easily they pick it up.09:42
cfhowlettidundidit, true when migrating  from ANY OS to a different OS09:42
idundiditFor personal use I would always advocate the migration, but when setting it up for someone else it's kind of a tricky situation. Very dependent on the person themselves.09:42
idundiditjishjish, try getting a bigpond account working in Thunderbird or Evolution?09:44
idundiditSupposedly someone had it working as recently as 06-10-2014 http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Bigpond-Email-Inc-Windows-Live/Sending-mail-from-Thunderbird-no-longer-works/td-p/30959109:44
jishjishidundidit: That's a great Idea!! Thanks :)  I always have the same problem, if it;s for someone else it's so much harder. I think if I can show them how this linux or other OS way works it would be better than just telling them about it.09:45
idundiditjishjish, create them an active live USB and let them try it for a week. See how they feel about it. Best possible scenario IMO.09:45
YasserGersyt09:46
YasserGersylist09:46
YasserGersy;)09:46
jishjishidundidit: Live USB is a great Idea. I've only ever had success using stock live-cd though, never created my own with like thunderbird etc on it.09:47
idundiditjishjish, there's a feature that lets you save all of your modifications to a live USB. I want to say unetbootin supported it, but I'm not 100% sure.09:48
jishjishooo this feature sounds great, does it work with most distributions, i.e. ubuntu or is it only for certain ones?09:49
idundiditAll.09:49
idundiditIt's called Persistence I believe.09:49
cfhowlett!persistence09:50
ubottuTo have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence09:50
idundidit^^09:50
idundiditIf you have several USB drives you could also let them test a couple different distros. I would suggest a few different desktops, KDE seems to be the easiest for new users to migrate to. Or something like Cinnamon.09:53
Ilhami I have finally decided that I am going to remove all Microsoft products from my laptop. :) I need the most out ouf the box ready dist for web development. What can you recommend?09:53
jishjishoooo Thanks idundidit cfhowlett09:53
idundiditIlhami, Gimp, Inkscape, Gedit.09:53
cfhowlettjishjish, happy2help09:53
idundiditno problem jishjish09:53
Ilhamiidundidit, what?09:53
IlhamiI wanted a dist. You are recommending software09:54
Ilhamilol09:54
IlhamiI mean applications*09:54
idundiditOh, my bad09:54
cfhowlettIlhami, um ... ubuntu?09:54
IlhamiYeah but I don't want Unity.09:54
idundiditIlhami, https://spins.fedoraproject.org/design/09:54
jishjishIlhami: most distro come with a text editor and browser? what other things would you personally want? - I ask because I wan't to get into web development and user experience design particularly.09:55
cfhowlettIlhami, ubuntustudio ... graphic design09:55
cfhowlettIlhami, you *could* add that to your present ubuntu with sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-design09:55
Ilhamicfhowlett, I am considering Ubuntu seriously.09:56
idundiditI prefer Fedora myself, but I started out on Ubuntu. So either are great.09:56
cfhowlettIlhami, fedora design spin is also an interesting alternative09:56
IlhamiI am going to erase my disk and start all over :)09:57
idundiditGnome 3 is really great for productivity. Easy to switch between multiple workspaces, lots of screen space.09:57
IlhamiYes. I want Gnome 309:58
IlhamiI miss it.09:58
dns53you know it is just an apt-get away09:58
Ilhamidns53, :) yeah I just love it man.. but I need to get rid of this Windows 8.1.. I just have a lot of stuff on it I need to backup first09:58
Ilhamihehe09:58
idundiditIlhami, back it up as a virtual device and then run it in virtualbox?09:59
Ilhamiyou mean I should back windows up in a virtual device and run in virtualbox later?10:00
jishjishidundidit: that sounds really cool, how on earth do you do that?10:00
bitnumusHi, how do you remove the "system problem detected" popup in ubuntu? i have a log of the issue from syslog, but can't find any "fix" so just want to stop the bloody popup!10:00
idundiditYes. There's tools to do it10:00
Ilhamiidundidit, show us10:01
idundiditWith imaging programs, let me find one10:01
jishjishi think dd actually can create a complete image of windows.10:01
jishjishyou could just copy it onto a spare hdd and plug it in if you need it ever.10:02
dns53yes, dd will image a hard disk and you can boot it in a vm10:02
Ilhamidd is a linux tool right?10:02
dns53not the best use of space (vm's can sparsely create an image)10:02
dns53yes, dd is a tool that will copy byte for byte a hard disk from start to finish10:03
Ilhamidns53, so can I do that from a VM?10:03
IlhamiBecause right now my host OS is windows10:03
idundiditVMware vCenter Converter is what I used.10:03
idundidit"VMware provides a free utility called VMware vCenter Converter for physical to virtual machine conversions. It has the ability to create a VMware Disk image of the entire system, including installed drives, local drives, configured hardware and software components, installed applications and more."10:03
Ilhami:) yeah you go pay for their products :)10:04
Ilhamisend me the license key later10:04
idundiditI did that from windows, and then converted it to a virtualbox machine10:04
jishjishidundidit: oh nice. Anyone know if it's possible to say work in a virtual machine and configure an OS, and then move it to a physical machine?10:04
Ilhamioh it's free.10:05
idundiditjishjish, yes, you can do that with a ghosting program10:05
idundiditYou can get a lot of driver errors and stuff though. Unless you test it thoroughly.10:05
idundiditAt least when I used to ghost Windows clones back in the day10:05
jishjishidundidit: oh ok, from what I understand there are tools to convert physical to virtual, but not many if ay to convert virtual to put on a physical machine10:06
idundiditSchool districts and other large companies do that when they want all of their new computers set up identically.10:06
dns53you could use clonezilla to copy a hard disk10:06
Ilhamistop confusing me guys.10:06
Ilhamijust mention one tool10:06
Ilhamiand I will use that10:06
idundiditIlhami, vmware10:06
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Ilhamiso vmware can take an image of my host os10:07
idundidityes, the vcenter converter tool10:07
Ilhamiand convert it into a virtual disk file10:07
idundiditAt least it works on Windows.10:07
Ilhamiok cool.10:07
idundiditOn Linux I've never tried.10:07
idundiditVMware also runs on Linux though, so you can use your virtualized host inside of Linux.10:07
idundiditAnd it's free10:07
idundiditNot Free and Open Source, but free as in doesn't cost $10:08
IlhamiVmWare is not free.10:08
idundiditYes it is10:08
dns53vmware server is, vmware desktop is expensice10:08
Ilhamionly few of their products are10:08
dns53expensive10:08
Ilhamilet me use clonezilla.10:08
IlhamiI am not even sure if virtualbox can run vmware disks10:09
idundiditvmware player is free. They just do a good job at hiding it on their website10:09
idundidithttps://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/7_010:09
dns53it can, and there are ways of converting between formats10:09
Ilhamidns53, also without corrupting the disk?10:10
IlhamiI hope so.10:10
idundiditMake a backup, or stick with VMWare player if you don't have enough space10:10
jishjishdns53: I've not been able to successfully convert between formats I'd love to hear what you used.10:10
dns53Ilhami yes, the disk format is known so you can convert a vmware disk to a virtualbox, qemu or other disk format10:10
idundiditit works on Linux, and is free10:10
Ilhamiso let me take one step at a time. I will my most important files on onedrive or dropbox just in case.10:11
IlhamiI will store*10:11
idundiditIlhami, which web design tools do you currently use on Windows?10:14
IlhamiI dont use web design tools. I use text editors like Sublime10:14
idundidit:O Not Notepad++?10:14
idundiditBlasphemy!10:14
Ilhamino!10:14
Ilhamidefinitely not notepad++10:14
jishjishIlhami: do yo use any other tools in addition to text editor?10:14
jishjish* and browser?10:15
Ilhamicomposer :P10:15
Ilhamibut thats for php10:15
idundiditNo photoshop? Fireworks? Illustrator?10:15
Ilhaminope.10:15
IlhamiI am not a designer.10:15
IlhamiI use gimp sometimes.10:15
Ilhamiand Inkscape10:16
agent_whiteUsing dd inside a VM... sounds... troublesome. I could be wayyy off, but ehhh.10:16
idundidit<3 Inkscape10:16
dreaded+1 for Sublime10:16
Ilhamiand vim sometimes.10:16
Ilhami:)10:16
idundiditvim is nice10:16
idundiditI hate emacs10:16
Ilhami:D10:16
agent_whiteI love vim.10:16
IlhamiI am not good at using it though.. so I still stick to Sublime sometimes.10:17
agent_whiteAfter I began to use it... now I use i3 with vim bindings, cvim in chromium, and vim binds for irssi/weechat.10:17
agent_whitezathura for pdfs (has vim binds)... <310:17
IlhamiI also use git bash on windows10:17
Ilhamihorrible10:17
dreadedvim is powerful10:17
agent_whitePeople who don't use vim/emacs make  them out to be harder than they are  I feel :) People who use both encourage them.10:18
IlhamiI have used Filezilla a lot.10:18
Ilhamibut FTP.. uggghh10:18
agent_whiteIlhami: And... mmm... Sublime does have vim-bindings... you know... if you want to... ;)10:18
Ilhamiagent_white, I didn't know that :)10:19
siva#drupal-vdd10:19
idundiditgedit, #thuglife10:19
Ilhamithe reason I am moving over to Linux is that this windows os has become so slow.10:20
IlhamiLinux is just fast :)10:20
Ilhamiand gives more freedom.10:20
idundiditWindows likes becoming slow10:20
keevitajahi, can you recommend gmail notifier for unity? the one you know that works!10:20
idundiditdat registry doe10:20
Ilhamiidundidit, exactly. I have had bad experiences with Windows.10:20
penguinmankeevitaja, thunderbird and keep it running minimized10:20
penguinmanwhat I do anyway10:21
idundiditGnome3 has nice ass notifiers.10:21
keevitajapenguinman: i just got rid of the thunderbird... it just looks so ugly10:21
agent_whiteIlhami: Learn to love the command line. It's insanely powerful.10:21
Ilhamiidundidit, Register to download your Free Product10:21
IlhamiThanks idundidit  :/10:21
IlhamiI have to register now!10:22
agent_whiteAvoid GUI where you can, and you'll gain knowledge that traverses *nix OS's.10:22
penguinmankeevitaja, well, there's evolution. the gnome 3 clinet. think it runs ok on unity.10:22
Ilhamifor the VMWare10:22
idundiditIlhami, lol try bugmenot.com10:22
penguinmani use different mail services tho, plus my own mail server so a regular gmail notifier doesn't exactly fit my needs.10:23
keevitajai have 14.04 lts10:23
IlhamiI will use one of those disposable mails10:23
Ilhami:D10:23
idundidit:P10:23
idundiditLearning CLI is very important, because there are times when the GUI goes down, and you need to know how to fix it.10:24
idundiditEspecially if you like to tinker.10:24
penguinmanplus certain things are just faster in a command line.10:24
agent_whiteOr more importantly, the fact that avoiding the GUI means you'll be that much more efficient at just getting things done without the crutch of a GUI.10:24
Ilhamidude it wants all kind of information about me. I thought it was just the email. Now it wants address and all that10:24
idundiditI can't tell you how many times I've broken my system after installing a new driver.10:24
idundiditIlhami, use bugmenot.com10:25
agent_whiteNeed to remote into a server and work? NO biggie. ;)  Actually is the reason I use vim as my primary editor... it is everywhere I go.10:25
penguinmanhonestly, part of the reason I like unity is the Alt menu search.10:25
idundiditAll about dat VNC10:25
IlhamiThis bugmenot is an amazing concept :P10:26
Ilhamihahaha10:26
idundiditIt's been around for yeaaaaaaars, and I've used it for years.10:26
IlhamiThanks man. It worked! :)10:26
penguinmannah, give me a ssh prompt anyday.10:26
idundiditNo problem ;)10:26
idundiditI will launch a VNC session with your ssh prompt, penguinman10:27
IlhamiI am going to love Gnome3.10:27
idundiditGnome3 da bes.10:27
agent_whitePfft, I'll avoid that overhead of VNC and just ssh ;D10:27
penguinmansure, but ssh is better when I'm remoting in from my phone.10:27
penguinmanwhich I do quite often actually.10:27
agent_whiteVNC assumes you have x11-forwarding setup on your machine... which, if they are servers or otherwise, will almost definitely not have.10:28
agent_whiteWhy use the bloat? ssh is lean and mean ;D10:28
Ilhami168 MB for the Vmware tool :P10:29
Ilhamibrb10:30
jishjishagent_white: I am interested to learn how to setup and use ssh, and I am a complete beginner to ssh. can you recommend anywhere?10:30
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agent_whitejishjish: I would highly recommend the Ubuntu as well as Arch Linux documentation on it.10:30
agent_whitehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring   as well as https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Secure_Shell10:31
agent_whiteThough, both assume you know the _basics_ of SSH. For a more general introduction on the "who/what/why"10:32
Ilhamiwhat do you guys use as an alternative for Office?10:32
agent_whitehttp://csce.uark.edu/~kal/info/private/ssh/ch01_01.htm10:32
idundiditIlhami, my Gnome3 setup :) http://a.pomf.se/jzuaok.png10:32
jattTeX10:32
idundiditIlhami, libreoffice10:32
cfhowlettIlhami, libreoffice for the win10:32
agent_whiteIlhami: I used to use libreoffice (successor to openoffice), but now I just use googledocs :P10:32
jatthm10:32
Ilhamiwell I also heard there is something called Office Online now.10:32
Ilhamiit's like Google Docs lol10:32
penguinmanyeah, google docs is really nice, especially if you do anything from a chromebook.10:33
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agent_whiteI live in the rural-country, so bandwidth comes at a cost ;)10:33
idundiditOpen Document Format. Cheeeeeeeah!10:33
AhtiPeople connecting to their SSH servers from phone, assuming android. What do you use to make it more "useable", default keyboards and typing commands with flags, etc is a pain on touch screen10:33
Ilhami idundidit I love it :)10:33
Ilhamiit's so neat10:33
penguinmanmain thing is get a better keyboard app.10:33
idundiditty10:33
Ilhami:P if I can have that theme it would be awesome!!!10:33
Ahtiie?10:33
agent_whiteAhti: There's not too much you can do... "hacker keyboard" kinda helps in keeping useful keys 'closer' to access.10:34
idundiditIlhami, numix-circle icon pack10:34
penguinmanAhti, try an app called Hacker's Keyboard. gives you a full keyboard layout in landscape, including arrow keys and tab.10:34
agent_white^10:34
Ilhamiidundidit, :P tell me later when I have Ubuntu installed.10:34
idundiditOr Fedora. :D10:34
AhtiAlrighty, thanks guise. I'll check it out10:34
Ilhamibut is Fedora arch based?10:35
idundiditno lol10:35
Ilhamioh10:35
penguinmanfedora is fedora based :)10:35
agent_whiteFedora is RedHat10:35
idundiditFedora uses yum and .rpms10:35
agent_whiteIt's like CentOS but more "bleeding edge"10:35
IlhamiUbuntu is Debian based10:35
Ilhamiright?10:35
agent_whiteCorrect10:36
IlhamiI have used Debian before.10:36
IlhamiI am more used to that than Redhat dists10:36
idundiditDebian is nice, but the packages are so outdated.10:36
agent_whiteI was not a fan... too outdated.10:36
idundiditDebian sid for the latest.10:36
jishjishIlhami: there is libreoffice or docs, or kingsoft wps office is very compatible10:36
penguinmandepends. if you use the testing repos you're more or less up to date.10:36
IlhamiI mean I am more used to apt-get than yum10:36
agent_whiteMy primary OS I speak on is Arch, and my servers are a mixture of Ubuntu/Fedora/CentOS.10:36
penguinmanI'm too lazy for Arch these days lol10:37
IlhamiWhats special about Arch?10:37
idundiditI just never cared for Arch. :S10:37
agent_whiteIt's not as bad as people make it out to be, I feel :)10:37
idundiditIt's a rolling release distro10:37
penguinmanno, it's really not, but you have to keep on top of it.10:37
agent_whiteIf you ever take a peek at the Arch Wiki, it is bulletproof.  I recommend it over any other wiki, regardless of the distro you are on.. simply because it's awesome :D10:38
agent_whitePfft!10:38
idundiditArch is like having a toaster that burns your bread 1 out of every 5 times.10:38
Rabinoahoy mateys10:38
agent_whiteI have yet to have a break to-date. :) It's much more exaggerated than folks make it out to be.10:38
Ilhamilol10:38
Ilhamiouch10:38
agent_whiteHahaha10:38
penguinmanonly real issue is you have to be able to translate systemD into Upstart10:38
agent_white"service foo status" vs "systemd status service"10:39
agent_whiteNot too bad ;)10:39
penguinmanusing the archwiki for ubuntu I mean10:39
llorephie@idundidit o_O10:39
agent_whiteI use the archwiki when I'm on ubuntu/centos/fedora.10:39
celexithe archwiki is quite useful even though i don't use arch at all10:39
agent_white^^10:39
Ilhamipacman :P10:39
penguinmanwasn't Ubuntu supposed to be going to systemd anyway?10:39
idundidityucky10:39
llorephiepacman nya10:39
agent_whitepenguinman: It will as well as all the rest.10:39
agent_whiteJust a matter of time :)10:39
Rabinoideas on the best setup for hosting virtual machines?10:40
Ilhamiall Linux dists are going to systemd?10:40
agent_whiteRabino: Checkout docker, or LXC10:40
agent_whiteLXC's10:40
penguinmani always used yaourt for everything. less of a pain than manually keeping AUR stuff up to date.10:40
celexithe last ubuntu you can switch from init to systemd10:40
llorephieGentoo not :D10:40
penguinmansomehow I doubt slack ever will move that direction either.10:40
agent_whiteIlhami: Yes, it's a large and growing part of the Linux kernel.10:40
idundiditI haven't used Ubuntu in a few years now. Has it migrated to Mir yet?10:40
celexii think the issue is actually installing gentoo10:41
celexino it hasn't10:41
llorephieNope yet10:41
IlhamiMir?10:41
agent_whitecelexi: Hahaha amen.10:41
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idundiditMir is replacing X server10:41
penguinmanMir comes in with Unity 8. in testing right now.10:41
agent_whitecelexi: It's on my to-do list... after skydiving...10:41
Ilhamiso many replacements.10:41
idundiditI prefer Wayland myself.10:41
Ilhamican't keep hold.10:41
penguinmaninstalling gentoo wasn't bad, just waiting for everything to compile was a pain in the ass.10:41
agent_whiteMir replacing X?  Isn't wayland moving into that slot?10:41
celexii dont have preference between wayland or mir10:42
bipulThere is a command tr which shuffle and translate the alphabet. I would like to know that , am i allow to set a certain parameter to translate a un meaningful word into meaningful. for example i have "Vrphwklqj phdqlqixo" And i want to set a parameter in tr with A ->.D, a->d, M->P, m->p, X->A , x->a10:42
penguinmannot on ubuntu.10:42
idundiditagent_white, yes, but Ubuntu are being nazis and using Mir instead of Wayland.10:42
celexii just want x gone and dead10:42
celexix is garbage10:42
Ilhamiwhy?10:42
penguinmanX isn't garbage, it's just OLD10:42
agent_whiteidundidit: Oh really?  /me begins a google dive10:42
agent_white^10:42
celexiwell yeah it is just old10:42
idundiditlol10:42
Ilhamicalling it garbage without reasons is not smart :P10:42
penguinmanwas originally designed to basically throw multiple terminals on one screen and not much else.10:43
celexiwhat i mean is it feels terrible compared to other desktops in modern times10:43
idundiditI agree with penguinman it's not garbage, it's just dated to hell.10:43
idundiditWayland is pretty good already, but it goes to shit when you install any nVidia drivers.10:44
penguinmanif anything, the fact it's still useable, what, 40 years later, says a lot about how good it actually is.10:44
celexiyeah, i hope nvidia fixes their wayland integration10:44
celexibecause amd is kind of horrible for linux10:44
Ilhamicelexi, just use mir then?10:45
idundiditMir is kind of Ubuntu's own thing. Just like Unity.10:45
idundiditNobody else will use it.10:45
celexiwell i don't mainly use ubuntu or unity10:45
idundiditnor I10:45
Ilhamioh.10:45
penguinmanmain reason it was forked was for better mobile compatibility. on the desktop it will probably be about on par with wayland10:46
agent_whiteWell... X11 is 27 years old. So more than anything it's surprising it's done so well for so long, eh? ;)10:47
idundiditIt's kind of ironic how I'm on Fedora and connected to the #ubuntu channel 24/7, but never in the #fedora channel.10:47
penguinmanonly thing that worries me is whether apps will be cross compatible.10:47
penguinmanidundidit, I used to idle in here occasionally on fedora, arch, even slackware.10:47
idundiditpenguinman, true. I think that's what Ubuntu wants though... exclusivity.10:47
agent_whitePS - If you are really curious about X and what the whole deal is with how it works, why ther's better... http://magcius.github.io/xplain/article/ is a good little start.10:48
penguinmanfor foss apps porting won't be a huge deal if the apps are designed well.10:48
Ilhamiidundidit, why do you like yum better than aptitude?10:48
Ilhamiwhy is Fedora better than Ubuntu? :D10:48
cfhowlettIlhami, eh?  t'isn't!10:48
agent_whiteIlhami: Different10:48
agent_whiteIs a better term :)10:48
idundiditIlhami, I like the repo management, usability... Fedora also has an amazing built in firewall10:48
idundiditSecurity is much better on Fedora10:49
celexii prefer aptitude and deb packages but i do like how well redhat supports fedora/cent os10:49
Ilhamiwhats wrong with iptables? :P10:49
agent_white^ iptables or bust!10:49
idundiditFedora is also extremely Gnome-centric. Gnome everything.10:49
penguinmani handle my firewalling at the router level so that's not a huge deal for me.10:49
Ilhamireally?10:49
idundiditAnd Fedora is more supportive of Free and Open Source Software.10:49
jishjishcelexi: I am hating on redhat atm using it for work, installing packages and getting python to work is a pita10:49
Ilhamibut you can get Gnome for any dist I think10:49
Ilhami?10:49
idundiditFedora comes packed with all the Gnome goodies.10:50
agent_whiteCan't exactly say Fedora is more "secure" though, since it's a more 'close-to-bleeding-edge' distro.10:50
Ilhamiidundidit, okay then I will install Fedora :)10:50
cfhowlettIlhami, there IS the ubuntu-gnome distro, you know ...10:50
Ilhamibut I like aptitude better10:50
penguinmanyou can theoretically get unity on any distro too. but it still works best on ubuntu.10:50
Ilhamicfhowlett, oh10:50
Ilhamithen I will go with Ubuntu.10:50
idundiditYeah, just use ubuntu gnome if you like aptitude lol10:50
Ilhamiyou are confusing me again :D10:50
idundiditsudo apt-get remove *10:51
celexiissue that i have with fedora is that steam/games are mainly made for debian and relatives10:51
Ilhamiit's like one is dragging me to one side and the other one to the other side. lol10:51
agent_whiteIlhami: Stick with Ubuntu :)10:51
cfhowlett!ubuntu-gnome | Ilhami well, as YOU are your system administrator, CHOOSE! wisely.10:51
ubottuIlhami well, as YOU are your system administrator, CHOOSE! wisely.: Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage10:51
idundiditI don't play many games, so ch'eah10:51
IlhamiI once tried CentOS :O10:51
penguinmani like gnome in theory, but it's still a clusterfsck right now.10:51
agent_whiteIlhami: Don't get lost in it until you have to.10:51
idundiditPlus, even though there's a Linux version of Steam, I still run the normal version through Wine... because it works better and more games.10:52
agent_whiteTiling managers 4 president!!!10:52
* agent_white runs i310:52
celexii am thinking in switching to ubuntu gnone from linux mint xfce10:52
* penguinman actually likes unity.10:52
celexixfce gets quite old quickly10:52
idundiditUnity is okay10:52
Ilhamixfce is fast :P10:52
Ilhamiso is lxde10:52
celexiits fast but quite bland10:53
Ilhamiboring to look at.10:53
penguinmanthe HUD is what keeps me coming back. alt to menu search is just so great.10:53
IlhamiGnome is neat10:53
idundiditif I wanted fast I'd just use Enlightenment10:53
idundiditrun Bodhi Linux10:53
agent_whiteI definitely recommend trying awesomewm/i3wm if you're looking for something different :)10:53
llorephieidundidit: Unity is heavy for 2GiB RAM10:53
celexireason i don't like unity is because i use 2 monitors10:53
celexiand the unity bar stays right in middle of them10:54
celexiand it looks quite odd10:54
penguinmanso do I. has no issues with that for me10:54
idundiditlol10:54
Ilhamican I have transparent windows with Gnome 3? :P10:54
IlhamiI think it looks kind of cool.10:54
idundiditnever tried10:54
celexitransparent windows are cool in theory10:54
celexiin practice they are not very good10:54
IlhamiI see.10:54
penguinmanrun KDE if you want that :)10:54
agent_whiteIlhami: As long as you have a composite manager that supports it, you can have transparency... and it's not at all rare :D10:55
cfhowlettall that eye-candy does come at a cost in system resources ...10:55
agent_white^^ i3 i3 i3!!!10:55
celexiyeah even xfce has transparency if you enable the compositor10:55
Ilhamihttps://extensions.gnome.org/extension/684/transparent-windows/10:55
Ilhamignome has a lot of nice extensions10:55
Ilhami<310:56
idundiditIndeed it does10:56
idundiditThere's also an extension for a sidebar, unity-like10:56
penguinmanthat actually properly autohides. that is one thing I wish unity did have.10:56
celexii wonder10:57
celexicouldn't canonical used whatever android uses for window manager for the mobile10:57
celexiand kept wayland10:57
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penguinmanNot to be able to do what they want to with it.10:57
idundiditCanonical is hard headed10:57
idundiditboth a good and bad thing10:57
idundiditIlhami, unity like dock in gnome3 https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/10:58
agent_whiteAlso checkout dmenu if you're a fan of quickly opening applications with little overhead/bells-and-whistles10:59
idundiditI personally hate docks because they take up screen space, but most people seem to like them.10:59
celexithing i like about the last gnome is how you can login into gnome classic10:59
celexiyeah i am not a fan of docks10:59
agent_whitedmenu!!! Use it, love it!10:59
Ilhamiso guys I can choose between 14.04 and 14.0.1 and both are LTS?10:59
agent_whitehttp://www.adercon.com/ac/sites/default/files/dmenu.png10:59
penguinmani actually used rofi when I was on i311:00
cfhowlettIlhami, 14.04.1  you mean?11:00
Ilhamicfhowlett, yeah sorry11:00
Ilhamihttp://ubuntugnome.org/download/ I am here now11:00
cfhowlettIlhami, 14.04.1 = 14.04 + the upgrades11:00
penguinmanthe .1 in that is like a service pack almost.11:00
Ilhamiok then I will take that.11:00
cfhowlettpenguinman, "point release"11:00
Seveaspenguinman: Ubuntu XP SP 111:01
Seveas:)11:01
idundiditlol11:01
agent_whitepenguinman: Never checked out rofi before... I'll take a look. dmenu has been more than enough for my needs though, so far :) suckless.org11:01
penguinmanwas translating into windows terms lol11:01
celexiwindows 8.111:01
agent_whitesuckless.org's tools are AMAZING. Well developed.11:01
celexinow featuring a start menu button11:01
idundiditWindows 10 has an actual start menu.11:01
celexiyeah11:01
idundiditIt's like Windows 95 all over again. Yayyyy11:01
IlhamiWindows 10 has a keylogger :P11:01
celexiwindows 10 looks quite horrible though11:01
penguinmanrofi is kinda like gnome-do except text only. fits in with the aesthetic well, plus it can cycle open windows.11:02
idundiditKeyloggers are nice. If I ever forget my password, I'm sure Microsoft still has it somewhere.11:02
agent_whitecelexi: Praise jeebus. I worked at a callcenter... and began to despise salespeople who sold folks windows 8 only for me to teach them how to find Internet Explorer :((11:02
idundiditIronically, Ubuntu also has a keylogger. See: Amazon unity lens.11:02
penguinmanso say you have spacefm open on tag 4 and are looking at firefox on tag 1. you can jump to it as fast as if you were opening a regular program. also if you forgot where you put something.11:03
Seveasidundidit: or 'script'11:03
Seveas!info script11:03
ubottuPackage script does not exist in utopic11:03
Seveas!info bsdutils11:03
ubottubsdutils (source: util-linux (2.25.1-3ubuntu4)): basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. In component main, is required. Version 1:2.25.1-3ubuntu4 (utopic), package size 46 kB, installed size 233 kB11:03
Ilhamiidundidit, but you can turn that off? :P11:03
Seveas(that's where 'script' is in)11:03
Ilhamilol11:03
idundiditYeah, you can turn it off... but still. It ships with it.11:03
SeveasIlhami: sure, it's on but by default11:03
Ilhamithats the first thing I will turn off hah11:04
idundiditWe gon' keylog errrbody.11:04
IlhamiI dont like people intruding in other peoples privacy.11:04
IlhamiI am curious how many backdoors there are in WIndows :D11:05
agent_whiteLOTS11:05
cfhowlett!ot11:05
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:05
Timvdeif I pre-install stuff on a live usb (a language pack, or some software), will it be installed on the system?11:05
idundiditI am curious how many backdoors there aren't in Windows.11:05
Ilhamihaha11:05
idundiditThere's actually backdoors in Intel processors anyways though. So, kinda screwed either way.11:06
chrisss123456hey guys, i broke my windows 8 on this laptop, and running ubuntu on another partition. im trying to make a bootable usb for win 7 but it doesnt seem to work, having tried formatting it in fat32 or ntfs... anyone know what gives?11:06
idundiditPlus proprietary BIOS.11:06
cfhowlettchrisss123456, need windows media/  best to use windows tool.s11:06
idundiditchrisss123456, did you break the MBR?11:06
agent_whiteTimvde: Do you mean... if you customize a live cd and use it to fresh-install an OS, will that install have your custom packages?11:06
Timvdeagent_white: yes11:07
idundiditchrisss123456, overwrite it with GRUB?11:07
Ilhamiidundidit, :/11:07
chrisss123456idundidit: no, but i can't run any .exe , download anything from the windows store, or do anything useful really. cfhowlett: sadly, my previous comment rules that out.11:07
Timvdeagent_white: we have to install 20+ PCs with some custom software, looks like this'll take a while otherwise...11:07
cfhowlettTimvde, are they networked?  if so ... LTSP install11:08
chrisss123456idundidit: overwrite? dont know what you mean11:08
SeveasTimvde: you should look at configuration management software like puppet or salt11:08
chokiIs ubuntu phone already finished now? So is there a download link for the stable 1.0 version somewhere?11:08
chrisss123456essentially,  some system32 files disappeared after windows thought it would be a good idea to "fix" the drive, which was working perfectly. now nothing works properly. winmm.dll is missing, and its just crap11:08
SeveasTimvde: but to answer your question: I believe it will. Try it and see :)11:08
agent_whiteTimvde: Yes they will, depending on how you install (ie -- those 'steps to choose packages-to-be-installed')11:09
idundiditchrisss123456, try asking in a Windows related channel. There might be some type of bootable media you can use. Not too sure.11:09
Timvdecfhowlett/Seveas: the thing is that I want to prevent redownloading the same packages over and over :)11:09
Ilhamimy connection is amazingly slow today :/11:09
Seveaschrisss123456: try ##windows11:09
SeveasTimvde: proxy server and/or local mirror to the rescue!11:09
chrisss123456Seveas: idundidit: alright, ill give that a go. thanks for the help anyway!11:09
TimvdeBut I'll try it by customizing the live environment first11:10
agent_whiteTimvde: And as cfhowlett said, definitely create an image of the OS and  image those other drives.11:10
IlhamiSeriously I am looking forward to get Ubuntu Gnome :)))))11:10
agent_whiteCreate your custom image, then deploy it to the machines.11:10
Ilhami<311:10
idundiditIlhami, don't forget to install the Gnome tweak tool. Works wonders.11:11
Timvdeagent_white: That's something to consider, too :)11:11
agent_whiteTimvde: I was a refurb technician, and made a "universal Windows image" so I could image 40+ machines at once over the network.11:12
penguinmanwelp, almost done with (finally) upgrading to 14.10. we shall see how this goes.11:12
agent_whiteTimvde: I would definitely recommend it :) Pays off in the future when you needa do it again.11:12
Ilhamido you always choose Torrent over Direct?11:13
agent_whiteTimvde: We used Norton's Ghost, but apparently Clonezilla is a good alternative for *nix (or, of course, handy-'ol dd)11:13
idundiditI do11:13
Ilhamiis there a good reason?11:13
Ilhamiis it faster?11:13
idundiditTorrents are best because 1: You can resume. 2: You share. 3: You're not wasting as much of Ubuntu's server bandwidth.11:14
penguinmanyes, and it doesn't take up bandwidth from the host11:14
agent_whiteIlhami: Torrent! Share the bandwidth :)11:14
IlhamiOh ok. Let me do that then11:14
penguinmanalso, leave it seeding, at least until you reboot to start the install11:14
idundiditYeah, what Penguinman said.11:14
penguinmanwith linux isos I usually turn off all the bandwidth throttles11:15
Ilhamithis laptop is really dying :/11:16
IlhamiI wish I could afford a new one.11:16
idundiditRelevant http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Priorities_92fae8_3832543.jpg11:16
penguinmanIlhami, get a chromebook. they work great with ubuntu11:17
penguinmanor any linux for that matter11:17
Ilhamireally?11:17
Ilhamibut hardware wise how good are they?11:17
penguinmanyeah. you can even throw a bigger ssd in most of them.11:17
Ilhamiit depends of course on which model11:17
agent_whiteDepends on your purposes11:17
Ilhamican you recommend one?11:17
penguinmanthe 720 is kinda the standard, but toshiba just released a 1080p one.11:18
Ilhamijust some web development and maybe also some Android dev as well.11:18
penguinmanIlhami, you'll want a bigger ssd for android dev.11:18
penguinman16 GB gets eaten pretty quick doing that.11:19
Ilhami16 GB is nothing :P11:19
celexithere are some cheaper laptops comparable to chromebook in price11:19
k1lIlhami: for hardware purchase advice better try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware11:19
idundiditRaspberry pi can do 1080p lol11:19
Ilhamicool.11:20
celexithe new raspberry pi is interesting11:20
cfhowlettguys:  hardware discussions are off-topic or hardware, please.  let's keep this channel on topic: ubuntu support11:21
Ilhamicfhowlett, I will go to ##hardware11:21
Ilhami:)11:22
Ilhaminp11:22
olspookishmagusI can't get to connect to WPA2+AES, any tips on this please?11:23
idundiditolspookishmagus, which wifi adapter are you using?11:24
SligI briefly used a nvidia card and now have switched back to a radeon card. Catalyst installs fine but unity won't load. You can only see the wallpaper11:24
idundiditSlig, have you tried "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*"?11:26
SligYes. I initially uninstalled the driver via passing --uninstall to the nvidia installer too11:26
idundiditTry defaulting back to your original xserver config, and then installing the catalyst drivers?11:27
olspookishmagusidundidit: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)11:27
mrgatesguys, i know you must hear this here all the time.. but, which distro to use? fedora or ubuntu?11:28
Ben64mrgates: you're in #ubuntu ... you're likely to get a biased answer here11:28
idundiditmrgates, try both and see which you like the most. Use virtualbox or a live USB11:28
cfhowlettmrgates, duhhhhh, gee, ubuntu support here so ... ubuntu?11:29
mrgatesLoL i know...11:29
idundiditIt's not so one sided. I'd actually say Fedora myself.11:29
hubert__Hello, my network manager does not show wlan after i plugged in my new TP link t2uh ac600 in my desktop pc. This is the output of some wireless info script i found at the forums: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10107040/ (the wlan card should wprk with ubuntu as said in some amazon comments)11:29
cfhowlettmrgates, as it costs NOTHING to make a live usb and test for yourself, do your research11:29
k1lmrgates: use ubuntu or ask in ##linux :)11:29
mrgatesnice! it´s easy to make a live usb ?11:29
cfhowlettmrgates, so easy a caveman could do it11:29
MonkeyDustmrgates  what system are you on, ,now?11:30
SligHow can I reset the x config?11:30
mrgatesWindows 711:30
MonkeyDustmrgates  then there's YUMMI for you11:30
mrgateslet me search for yummi11:31
k1l!liveusb | mrgates11:31
ubottumrgates: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent11:31
MonkeyDustmrgates  scroll down http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/11:31
idundiditolspookishmagus, I tried googling for the answer. This may work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216017711:31
mrgatesyou guys are AWESOME11:31
olspookishmagusidundidit: care to share you google query as well? ^^11:32
mrgatesty ty! downloading the images11:32
idundiditolspookishmagus, I just copied your hardware info + ubuntu11:33
idundiditSlig, http://askubuntu.com/questions/80914/how-reinstall-the-default-graphics-drivers11:33
olspookishmagusidundidit: any idea how is the package that contains the atheros firmware names?11:37
olspookishmagusnamed*11:37
br01Hi ! actually my freind is on ubuntu 14.04 LTS and he wants to reinstall it and delete windows 'cause he has several issues with internet connexion11:38
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br01the problem that we can't boot his computer and the only way to work11:38
idundiditolspookishmagus, firmware-atheros?11:38
br01with it is to use ubuntu partition11:38
MonkeyDustbr01  the question being11:39
MonkeyDust?11:39
olspookishmagusthe odd thing is that I'm really next to the router, a bunch of other SSID's are showing, but I cannot see the one I want to connect to11:39
agent_whiteolspookishmagus: Is the SSID hidden?11:40
olspookishmagusagent_white: nope11:40
Ilhamiidundidit, so you said vmware player 6.0 is free?11:40
Ilhamijust in case11:40
idundiditIlhami, yes11:40
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idundiditIlhami, it's hard to find on their site. They kinda hide it.11:40
Ilhamibecause it wants me to choose a destination type11:41
Ilhamiin this conversion tool11:41
agent_whiteolspookishmagus: Hm, then you're issue is not "connecting to WPA2+AES", it is being able to see a wifi network.11:41
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agent_whiteolspookishmagus: You're sitting next to it, so you have access via ethernet?11:41
br01the problem that we can't boot his computer and the only way to work  with it is to use ubuntu partition MonkeyDust and we can't use garted 'cause we have any connexion on his computer11:41
doodzOS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have a slow internet connection,which has happened when i switched between modems.What can i do to fix that?11:42
IlhamiThe size of the source disks may exceed the capacity of ...11:42
Ilhamilol11:42
idundiditlol11:42
MonkeyDustbr01  you ùmean you don't have internet on that pc?11:42
bojanI am getting the following error when installing gtkterm "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10108024/"11:43
Ilhamiidundidit, :) did you also encounter this warning?11:43
agent_whiteolspookishmagus: Eeep, I may be a bit late! Just saw you had some help. But I would recommend checking your drivers (though since you see other network, likely not the issue)11:43
br01yes MonkeyDust11:43
idundiditIlhami, it's been a few years since I've migrated from Windows, honestly. I don't believe so though.11:43
k1lbojan: which ubuntu are you on. do you have some 3rd party repos enabled?11:43
agent_whiteolspookishmagus: But looking at the actual router setting via ethernet to see what exactly the setup is of the router.11:43
Ilhamiidundidit, my C drive is 244 GB. I dont have space for that anywhere :)11:43
bojankll:am using ubuntu 12.0411:43
bojankll:I am trying to install that in chroot.11:44
hubert__Hello, my network manager does not show wlan after i plugged in my new TP link t2uh ac600 in my desktop pc. This is the output of some wireless info script i found at the forums: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10107040/ (the wlan card should wprk with ubuntu as said in some amazon comments)11:44
agent_white(802.11a/b/g) etc11:44
MonkeyDustbr01  and you have another pc, with internet?11:44
IlhamiI will just do it the hard way.11:44
br01yeah i have my computer MonkeyDust11:45
MonkeyDustbr01  then use that internet connection on the "ubuntu pc", is my advice -- first use your connected pc to create a live usb stick11:46
k1lbojan: is this a 64bit vs 32bit chroot missmatch?11:46
doodzOS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have a slow internet connection,which has happened when i switched between modems.What can i do to fix that?11:47
bojankll:wat can i do??11:47
lotuspsychjedoodz: wifi or ethernet?11:47
doodzlotuspsychje, both11:47
k1lbojan: sorry dont know right now. i need to leave for lunch11:47
bojanok11:48
lotuspsychjek1l: bon apetiti11:48
lotuspsychjedoodz: modem issue might be hardware related, try the ##networking guys11:50
doodzlotuspsychje, the speed is alright,the main problem is that the retrievement of data is slow.11:50
demotape_i need a new laptop. with i7  and 15 zoll and ubunut. some tips?11:50
agent_whiteolspookishmagus: Unplug your wireless-dongle, run `tail -f /var/log/{messages,kernel,dmesg,syslog}`, then plug your wifi-dongle in again. That output will be very relevant.11:50
lotuspsychjedemotape_: check the system76 website11:50
doodzlotuspsychje, okay11:51
demotape_lotuspsychje, thanks11:51
agent_whiteolspookishmagus: Nice job on making note of all the information you have currently in that paste... the thing that sticks out is that there is no wireless interface popping up automagically, most likely due to a missing/unloaded driver.11:51
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doodzlotuspsychje, thanks11:52
lotuspsychjedemotape_: most laptops will run fine on 14.04, an ssd inside is really recomended11:52
agent_white(see how `ip link` only shows lo (loopback) and eth0 (ethernet).11:52
cfhowlettdemotape_, http://bartongeorge.net/2015/01/27/welcome-the-dell-precision-m3800-mobile-workstation-developer-edition/11:52
br01MonkeyDust and then run it on my freind's computer to install windows ?11:52
MrElendigolspookishmagus: rfkill list all11:53
MonkeyDustbr01  you lost me... do you want to install ubuntu or windows?11:53
demotape_cfhowlett, this one is nive but very expensive11:54
cfhowlettdemotape_, dell xps13 developer edition: starts at $70011:54
demotape_cfhowlett, but is only 13 zoll11:55
cfhowlettdemotape_, note: the DE has not yet been officially released, but "soon"       what the hell is 13 "zoll"???11:55
Ilhami700 dollars is not cheap cfhowlett11:55
Ilhaminot imo11:55
MonkeyDustdepends on how rich you are11:55
br01MonkeyDust : My freind's computer contains already a windows and ubuntu partition , now the deal is to delete windows and install ubuntu because that ubuntu partition running on his computer contains lot of issues , and we have internet connexion on my computer11:55
cfhowlettIlhami, subjective11:55
Ilhamiif you are a student it's not cheeap11:56
Ilhamicheap*11:56
cfhowlettdemotape_, http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9343-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC11:56
demotape_cfhowlett, the display size11:56
weeirc8089how can I install emacs 24.4 only by compiling myself?11:56
lotuspsychjejust for the info, ubuntu phones are gonna release soon: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/bq-ubuntu-phone-goes-sale-next-week-e169-meizu-device-coming-soon join #ubuntu-touch for discussions11:56
MonkeyDustbr01  ok, so want to install ubuntu. then why did you ask how to install windows in your previous question?11:57
cfhowlettdemotape_, so "zoll" = ... inches?11:57
weeirc8089err the question is is there an official way to install emacs 24.4? (or do I have to compile it myself)?11:57
Ilhamilotuspsychje, I am going to buy one :)11:57
weeirc8089Hello All, by the way.11:57
lotuspsychje!emacs | weeirc808911:58
ubottuweeirc8089: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code11:58
Ben64weeirc8089: version 46 is in ubuntu, why would you want 2411:58
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, I'm in Beijing, so hopefully can grab one fresh from the factory :)11:58
weeirc8089no 24.3 is in ubuntu11:58
weeirc8089not 24.411:58
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: meizu looks promising :p i hope for you11:58
Ben64oh well the thingy says 4611:58
demotape_cfhowlett, 15 inch = 15,6 zoll11:58
cfhowlettdemotape_, ah, OK, the xps13 is too small11:59
Ben64!info emacs trusty11:59
weeirc808924.4 was released Oct 10 201411:59
ubottuemacs (source: emacs-defaults): GNU Emacs editor (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 45.0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 25 kB11:59
Ben64see says 4511:59
weeirc8089Ben64: see this: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/12:00
demotape_cfhowlett, would be nice12:00
Ben64weeirc8089: yes i know12:00
br01MonkeyDust, may i didn't write my question well ... but we want to unistall windows.. sorry12:00
Ilhamicfhowlett, grab one for me as well.12:00
Ben64weeirc8089: ubuntu doesn't have the latest software, blah blah, you can do whatever you want but its not supported in this channel12:00
weeirc8089I'd like it because of drop-down menus in text mode12:00
Ben64vivid has 24.412:01
MonkeyDustbr01  ok, then first use a working pc to create a bootable usb stick -- then connect the other pc to internet and use the usb stick to install ubuntu12:01
cfhowlettIlhami, payment terms?  I prefer amazon gift cards12:01
cfhowlettweeirc8089, if you truly need bleeding/bloody edge, compile from source.12:02
olspookishmagusMrElendig: allow me to paste 3 lines here12:02
frankpalwhile sharing a folder between ubuntu and another ubuntu12:02
olspookishmagus1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no12:02
Ben64olspookishmagus: use a pastebin for multiple lines12:03
frankpalI get an error on client cannot mount Windows share permission denied although I did tick Guest access12:03
olspookishmagusagent_white: I do have access to the router via Ethernet12:04
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br01MonkeyDust already done it but we have a problem to boot the computer, actually when we choose the bootable on the boot menu it doesn't work and windows starts running ps : i used the same usb to install ubuntu on my computer12:04
olspookishmagusit's setup to be WPA2+AES only12:04
Ilhamipaypal? cfhowlett12:04
Ilhamiand how much?12:04
MonkeyDustbr01  delete windows by deleting its partition, once you have booted the ubuntu stick12:04
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cfhowlettIlhami, as meizu hasn't officially released it yet, can't say.  what country are you in?12:05
Ilhamicfhowlett, let's just drop it. I dont need a new phone now. I will wait a bit12:05
MonkeyDustbr01  so the pc won't boot the usb stick, is that it? press F12 or so during boot, so you can select the medium12:05
IlhamiI am in Denmark.12:05
cfhowlettIlhami, OK12:05
br01MonkeyDust we can't even run the bootable usb .. yes after choosing the medium windows start running by itself12:06
MonkeyDustbr01  then i don't know12:06
olspookishmagusthat's WPA2+AES actually12:06
lotuspsychjebr01: you must turnoff fastboot or uefi boot, or F12 to boot from usb12:07
lotuspsychjebr01: windows uefi boot might block you12:07
br01MonkeyDust is there any way to install gparted without connexion  ?? using my computer to get gparted package and then transfering them to my freind computer12:08
br01MonkeyDust will this work ?12:08
MrElendiguefi is not a problem, fastboot and secureboot can be12:08
MonkeyDustbr01  yes, you can download a gparted iso and use that12:08
MonkeyDustbr01  that is: a bootable gparted iso12:08
MonkeyDustbr01  http://gparted.org/download.php12:09
PCatineanguys how do I extract the contents of a .deb file? I want to manually plce the binary libraries of wkhtmltopdf which are in a deb file12:11
PCatineanbut if I install it it installs other things which I don't like12:11
EriC^^PCatinean: dpkg -x <package> <destination>12:12
PCatineanand what does --unpack do EriC^^ ?12:12
EriC^^i think it unpacks it as usual but without configuring12:13
br01MrElendig, lotuspsychje i have already disabled fastboot and secureboot12:13
lotuspsychjebr01: did you try another usb port?12:13
br01MonkeyDust thank u, i am going to try it !12:13
MrElendigbr01: how did you write the image to the usb stick?12:14
br01lotuspsychje yes12:14
br01MrElendig, i used unetbootin12:15
MrElendigewwww12:15
MrElendigjust dd the image to the stick12:16
EriC^^+112:16
MrElendigunetbootin is silly12:16
lotuspsychjebr01: or use the universal usb creator from ubuntu website12:16
EriC^^it can cause live usb's to not boot sometimes12:16
MrElendigdd is the best way to write any sane hybrid images to usb sticks12:16
MrElendignot that ubuntu have a history of having sane images though, but the latest ones usually works12:17
lotuspsychjeMrElendig: for starters something GUI might be usefull also :p12:17
olspookishmagus# apt-cache search --names-only atheros12:17
olspookishmagus#12:17
olspookishmagusso... is this package inside some other repository?12:18
EriC^^!find atheros12:18
lotuspsychje!atheros | olspookishmagus12:18
ubottuFile atheros found in linux-firmware, linux-goldfish-headers-3.4.0-4, linux-headers-3.16.0-23, linux-headers-3.16.0-23-generic, linux-headers-3.16.0-23-lowlatency, linux-headers-3.16.0-24, linux-headers-3.16.0-24-generic, linux-headers-3.16.0-24-lowlatency, linux-headers-3.16.0-25, linux-headers-3.16.0-25-generic (and 29 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=atheros&mode=&suite=utopic&arch=any12:18
ubottuolspookishmagus: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:18
c31r2g!ubottu | c31r2g12:19
ubottuc31r2g, please see my private message12:19
peter8983i have ubuntu server on virtualbox and i am trying to connect to apache from my host machine which is windows 7. i can ping my host from ubuntu guest machine but i can't ping the guest machine from the host Windows 7. any idea what might be causing this?12:21
MonkeyDustpeter8983  make sure the network is set to 'bridged', not NAT12:22
BluesKajHiyas all12:22
br01lotuspsychje, can u give please a link to download universal usb creator ? i didn't find it :/12:22
peter8983MonkeyDust i tried with bridget but it didn't work. now i am trying with host-only network12:23
lotuspsychjebr01: here mate: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows12:23
lotuspsychjebr01: this is from windows yes12:24
FoxhoundzI need help!12:25
lotuspsychjeFoxhoundz: if you ask a question12:25
FoxhoundzI can't seem to find a way to get ubuntu to detect my Killer Lan E2200 NIC12:25
br01lotuspsychje in fact i am using ubuntu on my computer ^^ i knew that there is an missunderstood between us :p12:25
FoxhoundzIt's an Atheros based chip apparently12:25
lotuspsychjebr01: then create an usb stick with the ubuntu's image creator12:25
MonkeyDustpeter8983  are guest and host in the same network? or is one in 192.168... and the other in 10.0... ?12:26
lotuspsychjebr01: its an icon with a harddisk + ubuntu logo on it12:28
peter8983they are with different ip addresses. i guess not on the same network12:28
peter8983ubntu is 10.0.2.1512:28
peter8983windows is 192.168.31.10112:29
Heimdallhey guys. how is it possible, that my little server is  aviable via http/ssh from outside but i cant ping from server to google e.g.12:29
Heimdallalso not with ip 8.8.8.812:29
br01lotuspsychje, yep yep i found it ^^ thank u so much12:29
lotuspsychjepeter8983: try the ##networking guys12:29
lotuspsychjebr01: no sweat mate12:30
asmod4noh hi, ubuntu snappy core seams to be broken for the raspberry pi 212:31
asmod4nthe “snappy” command doesn’t work because of a misconfigured certificate store which cannot be resolved because the image is read-only12:31
lotuspsychje!snappy | asmod4n12:33
ubottuasmod4n: Ubuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/12:33
Foxhoundzanyone ?:()12:36
ikoniaanyone what ?12:36
FoxhoundzI can't seem to find a way to get ubuntu to detect my Killer Lan E2200 NIC12:36
asmod4nlotuspsychje: thanks12:36
ikoniaFoxhoundz: does it have support on linux12:36
lotuspsychjeasmod4n: your welcome12:36
FoxhoundzI do not know.12:36
FoxhoundzBUT12:36
FoxhoundzIt's an atheros based card12:36
ikoniaFoxhoundz: find out before wasting time12:36
Foxhoundzwhich leads me to believe that it is12:36
ikoniaFoxhoundz: not always12:36
Foxhoundzikonia: I don't know!12:36
ikoniaFoxhoundz: find out12:37
FoxhoundzThat's why I'm here12:37
Foxhoundzin the first place12:37
ikoniaFoxhoundz: so contact the vendor would be an easy starting point12:37
FoxhoundzReally12:37
ikoniafinding out the exact chipset model would be a second point12:37
ikoniathey are two easy ways to get a good idea12:37
FoxhoundzYou really want me to mail atheros asking if their NIC supports Linux?12:37
Foxhoundz:|12:37
FoxhoundzIf you don't want to help you have the right to keep silent, you know.12:37
ikoniaasking a hardware vendor what operating system it supports is not unreasonable12:37
ikoniafinding out the exact chipset is not unreasonable either12:38
FoxhoundzI KNOW they don't support Linux12:38
ikoniahelps you move things forward with confident12:38
FoxhoundzI do NOT know if Ubuntu supports the NIC, however.12:38
FoxhoundzAgain, thus, why I'm here12:38
ikoniaFoxhoundz: ubuntu is linux12:38
Foxhoundzuhh...I don't think you understand.12:38
ikoniaI'm pretty sure I do12:38
Foxhoundzright.12:39
Foxhoundzwell, I'll stick around for more helpful hand12:39
Foxhoundzyou carry on12:39
ikoniafinding out the exact chipset would be useful12:39
Runkai did a minimal installation and now when i need to save a password to lets say network manager i get a popup about the default keyring, on a full install i dont get this msg, can someone help me on what did i not install or do correctly?12:40
ikoniaRunka: whats the popup ?12:40
ikoniaRunka: on a full install keyring is used still, so whats the actual popup12:40
wlanhi12:41
wlanwhat can I do when the LAN is not working??12:41
olspookishmagusany ideas why I can't see a specified network's wireless broadcast? is there some sort of entry that I need to wipe or so?12:41
Runka"Choose password for new keyring" blah blah blah ikonia12:41
ikoniaRunka: is it asking you for a password for the keyring, or a password for the key so it can save it ?12:41
ikoniawlan: depends on many things, explain the problem12:41
ikoniaolspookishmagus: see the broadcast ? in what wy ?12:42
ikoniaway12:42
wlanhe doesnt find the wlan12:42
bazhanghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1293414  Foxhoundz check the fix in the link12:42
wlanthe LAN12:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1293414 in elementary OS "Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2200 Gigabit Ethernet not supported" [Undecided,New]12:42
wlanwhen I plug the LAN in nothing happens12:42
Runkaikonia: it wants me to input a new password for the default keying12:42
olspookishmagusikonia: I can't see the broadcast, I can't even see the ESSID in: iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID12:42
wlanwhen I ifconfig, only finda wlan and lo, but no eth012:42
ikoniaRunka: so unlock the keyring then12:42
ikoniaolspookishmagus: so not the broadcast address, your talking about a wireless SSID12:43
olspookishmagushowever every other device can see and can negotiate with that router12:43
olspookishmagusand eventually connect to that wireless network12:43
ikoniawlan: what is the make of ethernet card in your machine12:43
Runkaikonia: no it wants to CREATE, aka put a NEW password12:43
wlanhow o find out_12:43
olspookishmagusikonia: well, yes, you're right12:43
ikoniaRunka: so it's asking you for a password for the keyring to lock it12:43
ikoniaRunka: give it a password then12:43
wlanhow do I find it out?12:43
ikoniawlan: is this a laptop ?12:43
wlanz12:44
Runkaikonia: no, shouldn't the default keyring get unlocked with the login password??12:44
wlanyes12:44
wlanan very old laptop12:44
olspookishmagusso, anyone has any idea why I don't get that ESSID shown?12:44
ikoniaRunka: correct, but if you've not installed the package that binds it (probably a pam package ?) you won't get that12:44
ikoniaolspookishmagus: first thing is try to join it manually - see if your card is actually working12:44
Runkaikonia: i have libpap-gnome-keyring installed though12:44
c31r2gwlan one is the password youre saving and another is the one that it nrdds to save12:44
c31r2gNeeds12:45
Runkaikonia: is there another one?12:45
ikoniaolspookishmagus: sounds like the card is either not working properly, or the driver does not support scan12:45
ikoniaRunka: thats just the library12:45
ikoniaRunka: the package that links it into the desktop auth - I don't know, you've done a minimal install, you'll need to work it out12:45
ikoniaRunka: I suspect (and this is just a guess) that the installer actually sets this password so try setting it to your normal user password, change your user password and see if the key one changes too)12:46
ikoniaRunka: the package may already be installed, but the default password has not been set to bind it to your account12:46
ikoniaRunka: that was just a guess though12:46
wlanikonia, so how do i find the make of my soundcard?12:47
Runkaikonia: ok12:47
ikoniawlan: sound card ?12:47
Runkaikonia: thanks12:47
ikoniawlan: you said network card a minute ago12:47
wlanethernet card12:47
wlanyes sorry12:47
wlanehternet i mean12:47
ikoniaRunka: (keep in mind I'm making an assumption - not fact)12:47
ikoniawlan: lspci12:47
wlanwhat can I grep?12:48
ikoniajust look for the ethernet controler12:48
ikoniathere can't be that many pci devices in your laptop12:48
MonkeyDustwlan  try lspci|grep thernet12:49
wlanmaybe one of these12:50
wlan05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)12:50
wlan07:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller12:50
wlan07:06.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCIxx12 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller12:50
ikoniano12:50
ikoniathere is no "ethernet" in here12:50
wlanso the laptop dont have any lan possibility?12:51
MonkeyDustwlan  try lspci|grep thernet12:51
wlanthe person who asked me to fix it, said, it worked some time ago12:51
ikoniawhy are you trying to fix it when you don't seem to understand the basics ?12:51
wlanlspci|grep thernet gives nothing as output12:51
wlanit has windows intalled, and I thought when I boot ubuntu, its will work12:52
z987klooking for some help.  I was just watching a movie with totem and it crashed out of nowhere.  Running it again, it crashes immediately with a segmentation fault(core dump).  It only happens on mp4, no other type.12:52
MonkeyDustz987k  try vlc, it's a devil-do-all12:53
wlanso if lspci give no output with ethernet it means that it wont work?12:53
z987kMonkeyDust, I tried VLC and mplayer, they both do the same thing, only with mp412:53
z987kMonkeyDust, also of note, I ran totem as another user and it works with mp4.  Something seems to be wrong suddenly with this user.12:54
z987kand mp4 playback12:54
doodzOS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have a slow internet connection with a specific router.How can i fix that?12:55
Apachezget a faster internet connection12:55
doodzApachez, with a different router i have no problem12:55
Apachezthen replace the faulting router12:56
Apachezverify settings12:56
BluesKajwhich router12:56
wlanthen get a faster router >D12:56
Apachezeither the router is slow or you have bad speed/duplex settings12:56
doodzBluesKaj, Home Gateway ZXV10 H201L12:56
Apachezcould also be bad interface or bad cable12:56
wlanor mazbe there is a setting in the router options, doodz12:56
wlanmaybe12:56
wlani  gtg now12:57
wlancza12:57
wlancya12:57
doodzApachez, i can't replace the router.My ISP only supports this router,so i am stuck with this12:57
BluesKajdoodz that's  a new one on me, never heard of it...is it ISP supplied ?12:57
doodzI should also add that in windows i have no internet connection12:57
doodzi have no problem with the internet connection*12:58
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  that happens, we have that here too12:58
BluesKajMonkeyDust, ?12:58
doodzIn windows i have no problem with the internet connection.12:59
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  ISP supplied router, that is12:59
doodzMonkeyDust, yeah that sucksl12:59
doodzMonkeyDust, so what can i do?13:00
MonkeyDustdoodz  not sure13:00
doodzMonkeyDust, Obviously there is a problem with this router and maybe even the OS13:01
BluesKajMonkeyDust,  not me. I bought a router that my ISP supports, made sure of that before i bought it13:01
BluesKajdoodz, do you have access to the router firmware?13:01
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doodzBluesKaj,  i can see the version of it13:04
VictorNegreanhello13:05
doodzBluesKaj, well i believe that i don't13:05
mysupperhello13:06
doodzBluesKaj, but how can i check that?13:06
warbirdzhello13:07
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Isfahanhi13:07
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mysupperhello, I have problem with transmission. although I connect with it, I can't authenticate .13:10
sungyomysupper, wht the prblm13:10
doodzBluesKaj, ?13:10
mysupperI got call from my server to input username and passwd. and I put already rpc username and passwd in settings.json ,,,I can't login with preset username and passwd.13:11
sungyoso ur prblm is on th tranmission-demon13:12
mysupperright.13:12
BluesKajdoodz, route -n in the terminal13:13
sungyolook wht i have done last year but forgotten..아 작년에 해놓고 까먹었어요13:13
mysupperps aux | grep transmission tell " debian-+   636  0.0  0.0 250700  4008 ?        Ssl  22:05   0:00 /usr/bin/transmission-daemon -f --config-dir /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info" , and I got server response to put username and passwd.13:13
doodzBluesKaj, http://s7.postimg.org/723drskd7/router.png13:13
doodzwrong13:13
sungyois ur server gui or cli?13:14
BluesKajdoodz, it'll be under the Gateway column like 192.168.0.1 or some such13:14
doodzBluesKaj, is there a paste editor that i can use like lspci | pastebin?13:14
mysupperI thought the config file is in /etc/transmission/settings.json but the actural transmission daemon is using /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info13:14
mysupperI'm using ubuntu trusty withought gui.13:15
BluesKaj!paste | doodz13:15
ubottudoodz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:15
sungyomysupper, maybe we have met 'ubuntu-ko', havn't we?13:15
doodzroute -n  | pastebinit13:15
doodzroute -n  ! pastebinit13:16
EriC^^doodz: in a terminal13:16
EriC^^doodz: install pastebinit first if you dont have it13:16
doodzEriC^^, got it13:16
doodzBluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10109160/13:17
mysupperright , sungyo.13:19
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sungyokkk would u come to ...ko?13:20
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Exagone313hello, i'm trying to customize colors for my terminal using dircolors, i want to install https://raw.githubusercontent.com/seebi/dircolors-solarized/master/dircolors.ansi-dark but i don't know how to install it for all users, can you help me please?13:20
mysupperbut I don't want to go back there, they are just talking about irc channel rule. things set up. I can't join there .13:20
sungyotht's no problem~13:21
mysupperNope.13:21
mysupperThat's just wasting time. I already decided. sorry.13:21
sungyothat the way to be an ician~13:21
sungyoircian~13:21
doodzBluesKaj, i see nothing about firmware13:22
doodzBluesKaj, except http://s7.postimg.org/723drskd7/router.png13:22
Exagone313should i try on another channel?13:23
BluesKajdoodz, type 192.168.1.1 into your browser address box13:25
doodzBluesKaj, i did13:26
doodzBluesKaj, i am looking into the settings13:26
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tewardExagone313: it's better to just have patience13:28
Exagone313ok, i've a better question13:28
Exagone313what is the general bashrc for all users, that is executed by all users?13:28
Exagone313 /etc/profile ?13:29
doodzBluesKaj,  i found nothing about firmware13:30
BluesKajdoodz, firmware is aka the router software settings etc , but it doesn't look like you have access to any configurable options13:31
doodzBluesKaj, http://s17.postimg.org/ta92boilb/settings.png13:33
BluesKajdoodz, ok , choose network in the list13:34
doodzBluesKaj, s14.postimg.org/9mvb8hhcx/network.png13:36
BluesKaj doodz I assume this is an ethernet connection, not wifi, correct?13:37
doodzBluesKaj, no this is a wifi connection13:38
BluesKajahhh13:38
BluesKajok doodz  choose WAN Connection13:40
LiceoProvaciao13:41
LiceoProva!list13:41
ubottuLiceoProva: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:41
doodzBluesKaj, http://s2.postimg.org/sg1ip13zd/wan_connection.png13:41
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pdrzhi, how can I image from a file then move it to floppy?13:43
doodzBluesKaj, any luck?13:49
Ilhamiguys13:51
Ilhamiyou know another tool than unetbootin?13:51
Ilhamifor windows13:51
Ilhamiunetbootin is not working for me.13:52
IlhamiI can retry.13:52
BluesKajdoodz, not much there to configure, looks very tigfhtly controlled13:52
doodzIlhami, are you using ubuntu or windows?13:52
IlhamiWindows now13:52
Ilhamibut I am going to install ubuntu13:52
g3kyIlhami, http://www.linuxliveusb.com/13:52
doodzBluesKaj, so is there anything that you recommend?13:53
Ilhamig3ky, thanks!13:53
Ilhamiwill try it13:53
g3kynp ;)13:54
pcsaaronhello?13:54
Ilhamipcsaaron, hello?13:54
pcsaaronOh OK cool first time here13:55
pcsaaronjust recently swicthed to ubuntu, thanks13:55
doodzpcsaaron, welcome13:55
pcsaaronDo you know why I have a problem with /set nick 4aron ?13:55
BluesKajdoodz , yes call your ISP and ask to speak to a tech who knows something about using linux with your router13:55
g3kypcsaaron, What message it returns when you try?13:55
Exagone313what is the file executed by all users when a terminal is opened?13:56
pcsaaronHold on,  first off all what's the commandto remove all these room events please13:56
doodzBluesKaj, okay thanks13:56
pcsaaronMy terminal is being spammed13:56
doodzpcsaaron, https://ubuntu-manual.org/13:57
pcsaarondoodz,  thanks I'll take a look13:57
pcsaaronis there a command to remove all the "has quit" etc13:57
cfhowlettpcsaaron, depends on what irc client you use13:57
Ilhamig3ky, how much memory should I give it?13:58
Ilhamiand does it matter if I am going to install Ubuntu permanently anyway? :P13:58
g3kyIlhami, Not really. I think that is for the persistent mode.13:59
g3kyYou can ignore it, if your just doing an install.13:59
a7i3n Can anyone here direct me to a current page dealing with installing i3wm and completely removing unity, compiz etc.13:59
a7i3n?13:59
k1lIlhami: the usb pen drive is only used one time install. so just go for the standard setup on the usb14:00
IlhamiI just gave it full memory. 4000MB or something14:00
k1lIlhami: doesnt matter.14:00
IlhamiI am going to install Ubuntu on the disk and overwrite Windows anyway :)14:00
pcsaaronGuys,  how do I turn off all the connection notifications etc14:01
pcsaaronSpathon1 [~nodebot@chx74-1-88-188-159-207.fbx.proxad.net] has quit  [Remote host closed the connection]14:01
Ilhaminice tool btw.14:01
g3kya7i3n, http://www.brentwalther.net/blog/how-to-replace-unity-with-i3-window-manager-on-ubuntu-120414:01
cfhowlettpcsaaron, as I told you earlier, depends on your irc client. so : WHAT IS YOUR IRC CLIENT?14:01
a7i3nthanks g3ky14:02
Ilhamiyou can get Ubuntu-gnome a7i3n  D14:02
Ilhami:D14:02
k1la7i3n: just instal i3wm and remove ubuntu-desktop?14:02
g3kya7i3n, np ;)14:02
pcsaaronit's irssi14:02
pcsaaronrunning in the terminal14:02
cfhowlettpcsaaron, man irssi       in a new terminal tab14:02
pcsaaronSorry I can't see what you say with all the spam14:02
Ilhamiwhat spam?14:03
cfhowlettIlhami, joins/leaves14:03
k1lpcsaaron: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages14:03
Ilhamiis it possible to ignore those joins/leaves btw?14:03
pcsaaronthe join messages14:03
IlhamiI mean hide them.14:03
pcsaaronilHami that;s what im taking about14:03
k1lIlhami: see my link14:03
k1lpcsaaron: less chatting more reading!14:03
a7i3n<- was thinking of installing ubuntu "server" and building up from there...14:04
k1la7i3n: thats possible, too.14:04
Ilhamik1l, I will look at it after installing Ubuntu hehh14:04
a7i3ni'm running i3 as we speak it's very, very good...14:04
k1la7i3n: most times you want the service that a full desktop offers, like gvfs and such. so you might just install i3wm and choose that in the login screen14:04
k1lIlhami: then focus on installing first. come back when you have issues or new questions.14:05
Ilhamiyeah I will.14:05
Ilhami* Received a CTCP VERSION from BluesKaj14:05
Ilhamiwhat does this mean?14:05
a7i3nI'm doing that now k1l... might be building a very light machine in the future and didn't want to go to ARCH14:06
k1lthe user send a ctcp command to check your client info.14:06
Ilhamiwhy does he want to check my client info?14:06
k1la7i3n: most users want the services a common desktop offers. so they will install most of that again in the aftermath. that is the experience in here.14:07
BluesKajIlhami, checking your irc client, you shouid have an option to hide joins and parts, check the hexchat help site14:07
a7i3nI'm an old guy k1l... i miss the harsh :)14:07
k1la7i3n: :)14:07
IlhamiBluesKaj, yeah but I am going to erase this disk and replace it with Ubuntu when the USB is done :P14:07
IlhamiI shouldnt have chosen 4090MB.. it takes much longer now lol14:08
a7i3noh and get off my lawn wil ya14:08
pcsaaronOK hopefully this has done the trick14:08
pcsaarontest14:09
pcsaarongreat,  looks good14:09
Ilhamithat persistent file takes so long to put on disk. :P14:10
pcsaaronNo it didnt work lol14:10
pcsaaronit tells me to use /ignore #xkcd-signal MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS14:10
pcsaaronand /ignore -except -pattern yourNick #xkcd-signal14:11
g3kyReplace #xkcd-signal with #ubuntu14:11
BluesKajIlhami, nwhich methosd are you using to create the usb image/14:11
Ilhamilol14:11
pcsaaronircll has a great command,  /ignore * crap lol14:11
pcsaarong3ky yeah i did lol14:11
IlhamiBluesKaj, Linux Live USB creator14:11
k1lpcsaaron: that only works on the #xkcd-signal channel now. so you still need to think before going for commands14:11
pcsaaronyeah I know lol14:11
pcsaaronusing /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS doesn;t work14:12
BluesKajIlhami, ok once you're on linux, check out dd. it works well right from the cli14:12
IlhamiBluesKaj, cool14:12
Ilhamiwill be back when Ubuntu is up and running.14:15
IlhamiLater14:15
mysupperSolved transmission problems. Transmission package using cli has bugs setting up.14:15
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Milos_SDHello. I installed Ubuntu 14.10 on Lenovo G50-30 laptop and I have a problem with FN keys (they don't work)... But they did worked in Live mode14:27
Ilhamiit keeps saying an operating system wasnt found!!!14:30
Ilhami:///14:30
Ilhamiwhen I reboot14:31
Ilhamistupid USB stick14:31
Ilhamistupid laptop :/14:31
ubuntu#paruwasoft14:31
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hondahola14:31
BluesKajIlhami, no cdrom?14:32
IlhamiI don't have a cdrom unfortuntely.14:32
Ilhamiwhat can be the reason to this error?14:32
IlhamiI could try on another laptop 2 sec14:33
IlhamiIt's the USB14:34
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Ilhamithe dist not getting installed properly.14:34
nookHi quick question after i installed ubuntu my windows fails with "/Windows/System32/winload.exe" but i have no DVD drive in my pc or usb stick, do i realy need a windows cd to fix this?14:35
cfhowlettnook, you do14:35
nookto bad :(14:36
cfhowlettnook, ask ##windows14:36
Ilhamishould I install via wubi?14:36
Ilhamiis that ok?14:36
k1lIlhami: no14:36
cfhowlettIlhami, HELL no!14:36
k1lIlhami: make a real install on own partiitons14:36
Ilhamiit's not working you see.14:36
cfhowlettIlhami, sorry, but wubi is dead, non-supported and it WILL break your ubuntu if you use it.14:36
IlhamiI see all Ubuntu files when I open the Usb from file explorer14:37
Ilhamiweird that it doesn't read it.14:37
k1lIlhami: what are you doing?14:37
nookcfhowlett, if i repair my windows with the "bootrec.exe /fixboot" command is than my grup broken?14:37
xrealAnyone with an idea, how dpkg hooks work? http://pastie.org/pastes/9893699/text14:38
Ilhamik1l, I have put Ubuntu gnome on a uSB14:38
IlhamiUSB*14:38
cfhowlettnook, ask ##windows for windows repair options.14:38
Ilhamiand when I reboot it says an Operating System wasn't found ...14:38
k1lIlhami: make a bootable usb live version. then reboot and choose the usb to boot. then install from the usb onto the disk14:38
Ilhamii did14:38
Ilhamibut when I reboot and it tries to read the USB it gives me "An operating system wasn't found.."14:38
nookcfhowlett, i guess ##windows gives a shit if grup is broken or not after ther commands but thanks will try14:39
IlhamiI used Linux live USB creator14:39
EriC^^nook: if you have a live usb you should be ok14:39
IlhamiI will try a last time.14:39
k1lIlhami: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows14:39
cfhowlettnook, understand: repairing windows boot is ONE issue.  GRUB is a separate issue.14:40
Ilhamik1l, dude I have done this many times before where it worked14:40
IlhamiI am installing ubuntu gnome btw.14:40
BluesKajIlhami,  http://download.cnet.com/Free-ISO-to-USB/3000-18511_4-75880271.html14:40
k1lIlhami: sorry, but that did not sound like you know what you do the last hour.14:40
IlhamiBluesKaj, that's the third tool I use.14:40
SiilwynHi people, I'm having trouble with my screen. I'm using 14.04 running the Nvidia Geforce gtx 750 ti card. The problem is hard to describe but parts of the screen (mostly happening in FireFox) hang at certain frame and then flicker back and forth to it.14:40
Ilhamik1l, which part revealed that?14:40
IlhamiI have had it working before.14:40
Ilhamibecause it doesnt work this time?14:41
BluesKajIlhami, well, it's less difficult than dd for windows14:41
SiilwynI am using xorg edgers ppa because the official drivers aren't compatible yet with the gtx 750 ti.14:41
IlhamiBluesKaj, hope it works this time.14:42
BluesKajIlhami, what are you using?14:42
daftykinsSiilwyn: which did  you install? the 34x version?14:43
Ilhamithe tool you gave me.14:43
Siilwyndaftykins, 64 bit14:43
BluesKajok, good luck , Ilhami14:43
daftykinsSiilwyn: no i'm asking the version number :)14:43
daftykins346 or thereabouts?14:43
Siilwyndaftykins, oh you mean the driver number? Lemme look it up real quick.14:44
daftykinsjust check14:44
daftykins"dpkg -l | grep nvidia"14:44
megamansecHas anybody elses clock gone invisible from their gnome-panel?14:44
OpenSorceAm I the only that gets nervous when Chrome updates wondering if Netflix will still work? :)14:44
megamansecIt seems to go invisible with 12-hour time, or with seconds.14:44
Siilwyndaftykins, 340.7614:45
Siilwyndaftykins, oh I looked it up at the 'additional drivers' in settings. Is that one correct too?14:45
daftykinsSiilwyn: i was sure xorg-edgers had a newer one, hmm14:45
BluesKajSiilwyn, have you tried the 34314:46
Siilwyndaftykins, BluesKaj no actually not, I'm kinda afraid updating will give me a blank screen.14:46
Siilwyndaftykins, BluesKaj could updating resolve it?14:46
daftykinstry.14:47
megamansecNobody else has had their clock dissapear?14:47
BluesKajthink xedgers has that driver in their ppa14:48
Siilwyndaftykins, which version? Also I can update using: 'apt-get install nvidia-340' right?14:48
Siilwynapt-get install nvidia-343*14:48
daftykinserr no14:49
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MonkeyDust !find nvidia-34314:50
ubottuPackage/file nvidia-343 does not exist in utopic14:50
BluesKajno the 343 is in the xedgers ppa14:51
Siilwyndaftykins, I did install the 340 version using: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-340' BluesKaj14:51
SiilwynOr is that wrong?14:51
SiilwynIt did work. ;)14:51
BluesKajSiilwyn, , but do you have the xedgers ppa?14:51
MonkeyDustSiilwyn  it worked bacause it's in the repos, -343 isnt14:52
SiilwynBluesKaj, yes14:52
Siilwyn!find nvidia-34014:52
ubottuPackage/file nvidia-340 does not exist in utopic14:52
BluesKajthen try sudo apt-get install nvidia-34314:52
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BluesKajSiilwyn, it won't show in the bot's list14:53
SiilwynMonkeyDust, I used the xorg-edgers ppa because even 340 isn't in the repos yet.14:53
SiilwynBluesKaj, ok I'm willing to try it. But what if the screen goes blank or something? Can I back something up?14:53
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BluesKajSiilwyn, you can use the recovery kernel with the VT/TTY to remove the 343 and reinstall the 34014:56
OpenSorceMinor issue, but still annoying: after installing the updated Nvidia drivers all of the pre X graphics are bad and the console (ctrl+alt+fx) is huge.14:56
SiilwynBluesKaj, alright. Going to try it out than. Brb.14:57
SiilwynOnce the nvidia-340 or above is available in the repos I'll use those. But for now this is the only way to get the screen working. ;s14:57
BluesKajSiilwyn, yes the 750ti is a hi-end card and seems to have driver trouble on linux14:59
SiilwynBluesKaj, yeah pretty annoying.15:01
SiilwynWaiting for my dad to finish his email and stuff... ;d15:01
BluesKajSiilwyn, how's the windows driver for the 750ti?15:02
SiilwynBluesKaj, no idea. Only have Ubuntu on it.15:02
BluesKajSiilwyn, ok15:02
SiilwynBluesKaj, http://i.imgur.com/awv0gmE.png15:02
SiilwynLooks like 343 is still in beta while 346 is out already?15:03
BluesKajSiilwyn, yes, that's a bit strange15:05
SiilwynBluesKaj, would you go for the 343 or the 346?15:06
BluesKajsilverf0x, I've seen the the 346 fail miserably on the 750ti , just last week15:06
daftykinsno that's the way nvidia do drivers, totally common15:06
BluesKajiilwyn^15:06
SiilwynBluesKaj, alright totally going for 343 then. haha15:06
* BluesKaj crosses fingers15:07
IlhamiI can get to the menu where it says Install Ubuntu :P15:09
Ilhamiwhen I do it nothing happens15:10
fxmulderso I have a machine that has a 4GB root drive, it says 463MB are open but when I try to write to it it says there's no space left15:10
IlhamiI will get the normal Ubuntu desktop instead of Ubuntu-Gnome and then try it that way15:10
k1l_fxmulder: 5% is preserved for root.15:11
BluesKajIlhami, open the run command and type "install Ubuntu"15:13
IlhamiI am downloading Ubuntu desktop now :)15:13
SiilwynE: package 'nvidia-343' has no installation candidate. Package nvidia-343 is not available but is referred to by another package.15:13
SiilwynBluesKaj, ^ this error pops ups but I do see the xorg-edgers ppa in the software list15:13
BluesKajSiilwyn, odd, no # in that ppa deb line hope15:14
BluesKajI hope15:14
SiilwynBluesKaj, ?15:15
IlhamiIt's possible to remove Unity completely? :P15:15
BluesKajIlhami, I suppose so, but I've never done it since I use KDE15:16
Ilhamiyou are using Kubuntu?15:16
BluesKajyup15:16
IlhamiTHere is also Lubuntu :P15:16
James0rhaving a hard time finding a conky config i once used, here's a screenshot of it. --> http://derp.co.uk/87da5 anyone recognize it?15:17
SiilwynBluesKaj, what would you suggest?15:17
SiilwynBluesKaj, also what do you mean with no # in that ppa?15:17
BluesKajSiilwyn, no # in front of the deb ppa in the /etc/apt/sources.list15:17
Ilhami# means comment right?15:17
BluesKajyes15:17
Siilwynah15:18
Siilwynthat way15:18
zacktuCan I "try" ubuntu server with the iso?  It appears that there is no such choice.15:18
ngomeshello , i have a doubt. i installed update-manager , but installing this now means i have to start update-manager manually every time i want to update. my question is : is there some software that controls update manager automatically , or i need to add a line in crontab to make it work ?15:18
SiilwynBluesKaj, what do I have to look for? Some lines are commented some are not...15:19
TJ-zacktu: No, if you want to try it the best approach is install it in a Virtual Machine, or else use the Desktop Live 'try' option if your intention is to validate all the hardware works.15:19
zacktuTJ: what is Desktop Live?15:20
BluesKajSiilwyn, the xorg-xedgers ppa line15:20
TJ-zacktu: The Desktop ISO can be booted from the media directly, without installation to the target system, which we call the "live" option, also known as the "Try" option15:20
SiilwynBluesKaj, xorg-edgers ppa line isn't in that file.15:21
SiilwynBluesKaj, I can however see it at 'Software & Updates' under the 'Other Software' tab.15:22
mnms_Guys I need to put some files not on my server15:23
mnms_If I run virtual machine on this server and I will put it there it will be more secure ?15:23
zacktuTJ: The Desktop ISO includes an option to try Ubuntu desktop, but the server ISO doesn't.  That's why I was asking whether there is a way to try the server ISO.  Your suggestion of a VM sounds like the only approach to use.15:23
BluesKajSiilwyn, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers15:24
Eddie_n00bHey guys, I'm having some trouble with a Wireless Driver for Ubuntu. I've checked every forum I could find, but still coulnd't get it to work. Can any of you lend me a hand?15:24
TJ-zacktu: Yes, that's what I said :)15:24
justelexHi, after running Ubuntu quiet a while I did a reinstall with a new hdd (same type as before) now I get stuck on boot. The last message is switching to clocksource tsc. Live desktop runs well. Any ideas or hints?15:25
SiilwynBluesKaj, oh 343 got deleted it seems.15:26
BluesKajok, sorry to steer you down the wrong path, Siilwyn15:27
SiilwynBluesKaj, oh no problem at all. Thanks for trying to help me!15:27
SiilwynNow the question remains, what should I do? (=15:28
Ilhamijump off the bridge :)15:29
Siilwynerrr15:30
Ilhamihehe15:30
g3kylol15:30
BluesKajSiilwyn, well maybe the 346 is no longer broken15:30
SiilwynBluesKaj, well I could try... But maybe we're thinking too big. It only seems to happen with FireFox.15:32
SiilwynBluesKaj, what's the worst that can happen installing 346?15:34
Ilhamiguys I have ruined my USB stick apparently15:35
IlhamiI cant select FAT32 now15:35
Ilhamionly FAT15:35
Ilhamiit worked with FAT32 before15:35
Ilhamican I solve it somehow?15:35
SiilwynIlhami, try to format it?15:35
IlhamiI did15:35
IlhamiI just lost 6GB on it :/ .. before it was 8GB. now it's only 215:36
vikashow to make a hotspot in ubuntu 14.0415:36
SiilwynIlhami, try this: http://www.garron.me/en/go2linux/format-usb-drive-fat32-file-system-ubuntu-linux.html15:37
IlhamiI am on Windows Siilwyn ..15:37
Ilhamitrying to install ubuntu on the USB15:37
vikascan anybody tell me how to make hotspot in ubuntu15:38
SiilwynIlhami, oh wow. That's confusing, haha. I always assume people on this IRC have Ubuntu.15:38
vikasplz15:38
Siilwynvikas, are you comfortable using the terminal?15:38
vikasyes15:38
Siilwynvikas, have you tried to use the 'Use as Hotspot' button located in the network settings?15:39
TJ-Ilhami: Trying to *install* Ubuntu from Windows, or trying to *copy* the Ubuntu installer ISO to the USB device?15:39
vikasyes but it wont work15:39
Siilwynvikas, try this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453877/starting-wireless-hotspot-but-nothing-happens15:39
vikask15:39
TJ-vikas: Some wifi chipsets require different firmware to operate in Access Point (AP) mode.15:40
vikasok15:40
vikasis there any software like connectify15:40
BluesKajSiilwyn, going to try the 346?15:40
TJ-vikas: "hostapd" is used as the service to provide hotspots15:41
SiilwynBluesKaj, yeah it's unpacking atm.15:41
BluesKajok15:41
SiilwynThis is nerve breaking.15:42
SiilwynOk, it's done installing. Restart?15:43
Siilwyn*already restarted, how do I start using it? ;d hehe15:45
IlhamiTJ-, the last one15:46
TJ-Ilhami: Have you see these instructions? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows15:47
IlhamiYeah dude I have problem with my USB15:47
SiilwynBluesKaj, yes it is installed already but I have no clue how to turn it 'on'...15:48
TJ-Ilhami: If Windows is mis-reporting it, there's not a lot we can do about that. You could try asking in #windows15:48
IlhamiI will reboot15:48
vikas@siilwyn the link you gave i followed but still hotspot not oppening15:49
Siilwynvikas, you followed the answer or the question steps?15:51
BluesKajsilverf0x, it should take effect after a reboot15:51
vikasthe one that has green tick mark15:51
BluesKajSiilwyn, ^15:51
BluesKajtoo many si's in her15:51
SiilwynBluesKaj, I rebooted but it states I still have 340 installed.15:51
SiilwynBluesKaj, haha yeah somebody else told me that too.15:52
SiilwynBluesKaj, dpkg -l|grep nvidia returns both 340 and 346. But the 'additional drivers' tab in settings only shows 340.15:52
Siilwynconfusing15:53
vikas@siilwyn 2 answer15:53
BluesKajSiilwyn,  lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'15:53
BluesKajSiilwyn, wrong command , hang on15:54
Siilwynvikas, I'm afraid I can't help you any further.15:54
SiilwynAnybody here who can help vikas? He want to setup a wifi hotspot on Ubuntu 14.04 and the default way using the 'network settings' doesn't work. Neither does running hostapd.15:55
BluesKajSiilwyn, dpkg -l | grep nvidia15:55
TJ-Siilwyn: The 'additional drivers' tab will only show compatible drivers; it is possible that 346 doesn't support the chipset but 340 does. Also, I've found some bugs in 346 where the kernel wedge sometimes reports that an Nvidia device is unsupported incorrectly.15:56
SiilwynBluesKaj, ... that's the command I ran.15:56
SiilwynTJ-, oh alright, that will be it than.15:56
BluesKajok , so the autoremove didn't happen for the 34015:56
SiilwynTJ-, what are more things to try out and solve screen distortions?15:56
Siilwyn*try out to15:57
SiilwynBluesKaj, no they're both installed atm.15:57
SiilwynBluesKaj, but the 'additional drivers' tab doesn't show it.15:58
BluesKajuhm , that's strange15:58
BluesKajremove the 34015:58
TJ-Siilwyn: What kind of distortion, incorrect resolution?15:59
fxmulderso I have an ubuntu 11.10 server, I am trying to boot into recover mode but the grub screen never appears, it just boots straight in15:59
fxmuldereven continually pressing keys I can't get it to show up15:59
BluesKajfxmulder, hold the left shift key down right after the bios screen15:59
SiilwynTJ-, The problem is hard to describe but parts of the screen (mostly happening in FireFox) hang at certain frame and then flicker back and forth to it.16:00
TJ-Siilwyn: Is that associated with some intensive GPU work, too - wondering if you've got an overheating issue16:01
SiilwynTJ-, no not at all, browsing random pages triggers it already.16:01
TJ-Siilwyn: "pastebinit <(lspci -nnk)" would be helpful to me16:02
Siilwynthat opens a shell or something?16:03
TJ-Siilwyn: If you could follow that with "pastebinit <(xrandr -q)" too16:03
SiilwynI get a '>' followed by nothing.16:03
TJ-Siilwyn: Those are commands to issue in a terminal, and will return a pastebin URL you can provide here16:03
TJ-Siilwyn: Press Ctrl+C to escape ... then type the commands *inside* the double quotes, but not the quote marks themselves16:04
SiilwynTJ-, yeah I ran it in the terminal but I get nothing returned.16:04
SiilwynAlso without quotes16:04
Siilwynoh, pastebinit doesn't exist right?16:04
Siilwynso I would run: lspci -nnk16:05
TJ-Siilwyn: It's usually installed by default now, I believe. If it is missing "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"16:05
SiilwynWas missing indeed: http://pastebin.com/ZRLtMhah16:06
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SiilwynOK, this is pretty awesome and weird at the same time. I don't see any distortion anymore.16:08
SiilwynBut now I pressed logout and all I see is a blinking cursor. ;0 At a black screen16:09
TJ-Siilwyn: That sounds like the driver got stuck whilst the X server was restarted16:10
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TJ-Siilwyn: I'm pretty sure 346 should support the 750Ti, but having some 'issues' pulling in the source code :)16:11
SiilwynTJ-, alright. I rebooted the pc and it works fine now.16:12
xer0in my laptop vlc wont play video16:13
xer0only sound come16:13
SiilwynTJ-, BluesKaj well thank you very much for all your help and answers. I'm not sure if the issue is resolved now but I ain't going to fix something that isn't broken.16:14
Siilwynxer0, did you install the codecs in the installation of Ubuntu?16:15
BluesKajSiilwyn, well i can understand that and I hope itremains stable for you16:16
cfhowlettxer0, install ubuntu-restricted-extras16:16
xer0s16:16
xer0do i install ubuntu-restricted-extras?16:17
cfhowlettxer0, install ubuntu-restricted-extras16:17
cfhowlett*install*16:17
toastee1I have a really weird issue... just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. my audio chipset is an Intel H61 and I'm using the HDMI output. Audio works fine the *second* time I test the speakers in System Settings, but not the first. Audio works fine in XBMC, but nowhere else on the system (Chrome, Firefox, etc.).. I've tried a bunch of different solutions like reinstalling alsa, killing pulseaudio, deleting pulseaudio config...can't figure it out. Any ideas?16:19
explosivetoastee1: same here when i plug in hdmi i have to select it in the settings16:20
ikoniaI suspect hdmi isn't responding quick enough to sync the first time you press test16:20
toastee1Okay, so that makes sense16:21
toastee1I select it in the settings16:21
toastee1But no applications besides XBMC will work with it16:21
toastee1No HTML5 video, no spotify, no flash16:21
toastee1Rhythmbox doesn't work either16:24
xer0i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. Still doesn't work.16:24
Siilwynxer0, try to uncheck 'Accelerated Video Output (overlay)' in the settings of VLC.16:30
toastee1explosive, ikonia no ideas eh16:32
xer0ty16:34
xer0i restarted and now is working.16:35
Siilwynxer0, oh nice.16:35
Corentinowhat ?16:37
xer0btw should i check or uncheck Accelerated video output(overlay)??16:37
cageHas anyone dabbled with bluetooth on ubuntu?16:38
cagejust wondering how much effort it is to get it to work on my laptop16:38
cageasus x500 series16:38
Ilhamihow to format a disk with ubuntu?16:40
agent_whiteIlhami: 'with linux' is the right way to ask it :)16:40
agent_whiteIlhami: There's many ways. Depending on if you wanna use a GUI or CLI.16:41
IlhamiIt doesn't matter :)16:41
IlhamiI need to format to FAT32 ormat16:41
Ilhamiformat*16:41
xer0Siilwyn, tq16:42
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agent_whitefdisk/cfdisk being CLI prominent, and gparted for GUI16:42
agent_whiteIlhami: If it's fairly important (hdd), use gparted for your firsttime. If you have time to spare, and it something like a USB drive, I recommend learning/using fdisk/cfdisk.16:43
Ilhamiit's a usb disk dude :)16:44
agent_whiteIlhami: Oh good! Dude just go the fdisk/cfdisk route.16:44
agent_whiteIlhami: There tutorials are better than gparted, imo, since CLI's are universal... one sec.16:44
agent_whitehttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning16:45
agent_whiteAgain, of course not Ubuntu, but Arch Linux's wiki is the best  out there. :)16:45
mas886Hi there, can someone help me with some wine things?16:46
siddhesh_its easy16:47
mas886I'm trying to install Microsoft.NET 4.0 on wine, but it seems somehow stalled at "Downloading RGB9RAST_x86.msi"16:47
cfhowlettmas886, get the download link and use this command to download: wget -c FileNameHere.msi        then use wine to installl16:48
mas886Yeah, the problem is that that file is a part being downloaded by the microsoft.net installer (sorry I'm quite new)16:49
freeroutehi, suppose I only want to search for the package named "python" using apt-get/aptitude. How do I do that? Currently when I do aptitude search "python" it spits out everything including python-lunch.16:54
explosivefreeroute: apt-cache search python16:54
explosivefreeroute: if you want exactly python, apt-cache show python16:54
freerouteexplosive: ah, that makes sense. So there's no syntax which says "literally this string"?16:56
QueensMelonsGuys, I need some help. I'm getting isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt when I try to boot from my pentium 4 system16:56
cfhowlettQueensMelons, booting from installed to HDD or from live usb/cdrom16:57
SchrodingersScatfreeroute: not certain on that, but there's also ^python which should only show packages starting with python, if that's any closer.16:57
QueensMelonsLive USB with Ubuntu server 14.0416:57
toasteehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/582806/no-audio-in-firefox-chrome-spotify-etc-on-ubuntu-14-0416:57
cfhowlettQueensMelons, 1.  verify the server.iso    2. verify the USB16:58
jattexplosive: apt-cache search --names-only ^python$16:58
cfhowlett!md5sum | QueensMelons16:58
ubottuQueensMelons: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:58
QueensMelonscfhowlett: done, and done.16:58
freerouteexplosive: yeah, that definitely narrows it down. Thanks!16:58
cfhowlettQueensMelons,  ... have an extra USB?  try again16:59
QueensMelonsCould the fact that I'm using usb3 be a problem?16:59
QueensMelonsI'll try with a usb2 drive16:59
explosivejatt: cool17:00
explosivethx17:00
freeroutenice17:00
Ilhamiagent_white, cant you show me the command?17:00
freeroutetoastee: is it me or is the CSS completely stripped from that page?17:00
toasteefreeroute, just you i think17:01
freeroutehmm, might be that mullvad VPN17:01
explosivefreeroute: np17:01
freeroutehmm, the -U flag of pip doesn't seem to be documented in 12.0417:03
QueensMelonscfhowlett: different USB, same problem17:10
Ilhamithe problem is my USB has been partioned in two :/17:10
Ilhamisdb - sdb1. sdb217:10
Ilhamihow can I format it completely?17:11
IlhamiI am checking lsblk17:11
shahid_ /join #nonameyetsoft17:11
QueensMelonsIlhami: gparted17:11
Ilhamiok let me get it17:11
IlhamiWarning17:12
Ilhamilisten to this carefully and answer me carefully.17:13
Ilhamilet me write down the error here. 2 sec17:13
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Ilhami /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted possibly by a program that doesnt understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?17:14
Ilhamiyes or no?17:14
IlhamiI dont know what to answer here17:15
Ilhamithis happened when I opened gparted17:15
Ilhamithis is my USB stick btw17:15
IlhamiI checked with lsblk17:15
QueensMelonsIgnore that17:15
IlhamiSo should I say it is a GPT table or not?17:15
IlhamiIt is asking me.17:15
QueensMelonsSay it is17:15
QueensMelonsThen write a msdos partition table to the USB drive17:16
Ilhamiok :)17:16
QueensMelonsAnd then restart gparted17:16
Ilhamiit keeps asking me.17:17
k1l_Ilhami: honestly: just dd that ubuntu.iso onto the bare usb and you are good17:17
Ilhamibut I tested the usb on another laptop to format it properly.17:17
Ilhamicant you help me formatting it properly?17:17
Ilhamion gparted it is unalloacted17:17
IlhamiNo partition table found on device /dev/sdb when I right click -> "new"17:18
IlhamiI am creating a partition table on it now17:18
Ilhamiwhich one should I use?17:18
Ilhamimsdos?17:18
QueensMelonsYes17:18
QueensMelonsAre you attempting to write Ubuntu ISO to the drive?17:19
QueensMelonsIf so, just dd17:19
IlhamiNo man17:19
QueensMelonsTo /dev/sdc17:19
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IlhamiSome software messed up my USB17:19
k1l_Ilhami: what is this usb for?17:19
Ilhamiso now I have only 2GB instead of 8GB as it had in the beginning17:19
BluesKajIlhami, are you still on windows17:20
Ilhamiand I couldnt format it with FAT32 as I could before17:20
QueensMelonsIlhami: did you write the partition table?17:20
Ilhamino I am on my Linux laptop now17:20
Ilhamiyes I did17:20
Ilhamiit says now17:20
QueensMelonsIlhami: restart gparted17:20
QueensMelonsThen create a partition17:20
IlhamiThe driver descritor says the physical block size is 2048bytes but Linux says it is 512 bytes17:20
IlhamiLOL17:20
IlhamiI can cancel or ignore17:20
AKI2HOIL17:20
QueensMelonsIgnore17:20
k1l_Ilhami: way less enter, way more answering the questions to help you17:21
BluesKajIlhami, that's a common message just ignore17:21
Ilhami2 sec17:21
AKI2Plants Vs Zombies17:21
Ilhaminow it says unallocated 28.86GB17:21
Ilhamiwhat the heck?17:21
Ilhamion the USB drive17:21
BluesKajyeah, ignore that too17:21
Ilhamiit still says no partition table even though I did create it from partition -> create17:22
IlhamiI mean Device -> Create partition table17:22
IlhamiInvalid argument during seek for write on /dev/sdb when I choose msdos17:22
BluesKajunmount17:22
DJonesAKI2: Ubuntu support issue?17:22
Ilhamiok I created a new partition with gpt.17:25
Ilhamithat worked fine17:25
Ilhamibut it couldnt create a new fat32 file system on it17:27
Ilhamibrb17:27
JasonrjProbably a newbie question, but how do I move all files including those that start with a . into the parent directory? I tried mv * .. but that left the .htaccess file. I tried mv *.* .. but that also didn't move everything. Is there a simple way to do it that I'm not thinking?17:28
zer0hok done17:29
BLZbubbaanyone here know how i can load music on a 3rd gen ipod touch with ubuntu 14.04?17:35
k1l_BLZbubba: i would try itunes in wine17:36
k1l_(but i dont have ipods so no experience with that)17:36
Ilhamiso what do I do now?17:36
Ilhaminow it has GPT partition table17:36
g3kyBLZbubba, http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-linux-replacements-for-itunes/17:36
Ilhamiseems like I need msdos to open on windows17:37
BLZbubbag3ky: which one of those do you use?17:37
OerHeksBLZbubba, this page might be any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Loading_music_onto_an_iPod17:38
OerHeksBLZbubba, good luck !17:38
BLZbubbaOerHeks: what method are you using for this?17:38
OerHeksBLZbubba, i have no ipod, this page is the most recent i know17:38
BLZbubbai'm asking if anyone here currently has their system working with an ipod, and if so what software are you using17:38
OerHeksBLZbubba, all apps that can work, are mentioned, with pro & cons17:39
IlhamiYES I GOT IT BACK TO NORMAL17:40
Ilhamihaha I created new partition table on Linux and formattted it back to FAT32 on Windows :P17:40
IlhamiI couldnt format it to 32 on Linux. Weird.17:40
IlhamiRunning Linux Live USB Creator17:41
k1l_Ilhami: do you want to make a ubuntu usb bootable?17:42
Ilhamiyes17:42
Ilhamifrom Windows17:42
IlhamiI am using Linux Live USB Creator17:42
k1l_ok, now lets make this a easy process where really few could go wrong: dd the ubuntu.iso onto the usb stick. make sure its /dev/sdc and not /dev/sdc1 as target17:43
IlhamiI am not on Linux anymore.17:43
k1l_...17:43
Ilhamidude it will work this time. Don't worry.17:43
k1l_ok, then use the howto form ubuntu.com i linked to your earlier17:43
IlhamiI have never had this problems before btw. I have tried many times where it worked smoothly.17:45
Ilhamithese*17:45
arooni-mobilecant mount a sd card ... how can i mount it:  "Error mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /media/david/3C77-CBF9: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/mmcblk0p1" "/media/david/3C77-CBF9"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat"17:45
k1l_gpt might be an issue for the usb creators.17:46
IlhamiVerbatim just sucks :/17:46
Symmetriahrm, I wonder how long before Linux includes rocketraid drivers into the kernel so you wont have to use vendor drivers17:47
RamseizeBest low footprint ftp for ubuntu?17:52
k1l_Ramseize: use ssh with sftp17:53
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Ilhamincftp17:53
Ilhamibut ftp sucks17:53
RamseizeWhat's your idea compared it to vsftp?17:54
k1l_Ramseize: ftp is like 1990s. ssh comes with sftp support which is encrypted. so use that17:54
RamseizeWhat ftp alternative can you recommend?17:54
Ilhamifilezilla17:55
Ilhamibrb17:55
Ilhamiyou mean ftp client alternative?17:55
Ilhamior alternative to FTP?17:55
RamseizeI have vps i want to easily access and change my files?17:57
k1l_Ramseize: did you even look at sftp now?17:57
SchrodingersScatif the vps already has openssh-server, then it already has sftp, should just go ahead and use it.17:58
RamseizeThanks for the advice17:58
Goose_Hey guys18:04
IlhamiHey18:04
Ilhamiwhen I install Ubuntu I get some errors18:04
IlhamiACPI errors18:04
Ilhamiand it stops at PRAMIN for image18:04
Ilhami...18:04
Ilhamiwhat does this mean?18:04
Goose_quick question. For some reason my flash drive isn't being read, anyone know why?18:04
Goose_Have you checked askubuntu?18:04
MonkeyDust!details| Goose_18:04
ubottuGoose_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)18:05
k1l_Ilhami: please stop using the enter key after every single word. that gets annoying to users that might help you18:05
Ilhamik1l_, it's a habit18:05
Ilhamisorry18:05
k1l_Goose_: see "dmesg" if there is some error18:05
Ilhamibut do you know what could be wrong?18:05
mw46anybody has a good understanding of ssh-add and friends? at some point my Kubuntu 14.04.1 started to ask for the passphrase again even while the keys were added before??18:06
Goose_dmesg doesn't appear to show any errors as far as I can see.18:06
Goose_There is just nothing showing up when I plug in my usb. It doesn't appear under lsusb either18:06
k1l_Goose_: uh, if nothing is displayed after you put it in there is alot going wrong.18:06
k1l_Goose_: try another usb port?18:07
mw46I found the `-c' option for ssh-add but it looks like it's now default? And I would like to have a `-!c' :-(18:07
Goose_did that.18:07
Goose_lemme try something. brb18:07
IlhamiACPI errors, what are those?18:07
k1l_Ilhami: hardware level issues. depends on your exact system and the exact errors what to do18:08
Ilhamiok let me try to install again where I set acpi=off :)18:08
Ilhamibrb18:08
dracken008i want to make a backup to a blurry . is it possibly ?? or will it be possibility18:09
Novice201yHi. Is Ubuntu spying its users?18:10
MonkeyDustwhat's a blurry?18:10
k1l_Novice201y: now18:10
CheatermanHello, does anyone here know what exporting DRI_PRIME=1 does?18:10
Novice201yk1l_, I don't get it.18:10
MonkeyDustNovice201y  you mean like by using locales and cookies?18:11
CheatermanIf so, could you tell me why exporting it in .profile (to basically bypass the IGC entirely) breaks Unity/Compiz/the whole desktop?18:11
k1l_Novice201y: sorry, should just be:"no"18:11
CheatermanIt's likely Unity-related somewhat... This is on 14.0418:11
OerHeksNovice201y, creepy question, what makes you tink that FUD ?18:11
CheatermanIt's worth mentioning I'm compositing like maniac on that computer - cube desktop, wobbly windows, etc18:11
dracken008Blu-ray i men18:11
Novice201yMonkeyDust, There are big number of articles about Dash sending requests to internet shop without asking a user to do so.18:11
OerHeksdracken008, sure, you can backup to blueraydisc18:12
MonkeyDustNovice201y  you can easily disable that18:12
Novice201yMonkeyDust, Is there more o "tricks" (about privacy leakage) like that on Ubuntu?18:12
k1l_Novice201y: just set it completly off in the privacy settings. and afaik the canonical server sending the data to amazon was shut down anyways. but you dont say your firefox is spying on you just because it sends your search data to the search pages, do you?18:13
k1l_Novice201y: there is no tricks on ubuntu.18:13
goose_Yo, so i rebooted and it works fine18:13
goose_don't know why that happened18:14
CheatermanI asked alis but apparently there's no specific channel for supporting hybrid graphics - therefore I'm asking here (it has to be mentioned I'm working on having the best and smoothest integration with Ubuntu)18:14
k1l_Novice201y: the search bar clearly says: search online and locally. so there is no trick. just dont get caught by the FUD some anti-ubuntu guys try to push18:14
Novice201yk1l_, But it's same if You would ask a friend to search for book for You, and in the same time this friends calls local bookshop in Your name to check if they have this book to sell.18:14
CheatermanNovice201y: why not?18:14
MonkeyDustNovice201y  just make sure your military and political secrets are in a safe place18:14
chavezhelp18:15
CheatermanNovice201y: When I call support from my company's behalf, I use my boss's name, not mine18:15
chavezafter install uuntu studio cant't load windows 718:15
k1l_Novice201y: again: does firefox spy on you because its sends data you requested? there is no hidden spying going on. its called "online and offline search" so turn "online" off in the privacy settings if you dont like that18:15
Novice201yCheaterman, "Sex frenzy in the weekend" could be too private thing too check in other place than friend's bookshellf.18:15
CheatermanNovice201y: Then it's likely you wouldn't ask your friend to look for it, and do it yourself.18:15
MonkeyDustNovice201y  ok, but take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please18:16
k1l_Novice201y: if you dont want that to be searched dont put it into the online and offline search.18:16
MonkeyDustNovice201y  Facebook knows more about you and your life, than you and your friends do18:16
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MonkeyDustnot to menstion Google18:17
Novice201yThank You guys for Your points of view on this.18:17
CheatermanAnyways :-) back to #OT18:17
Cheatermank1l_: I think you suggested me to disable KMS last time, but I got a bit of documentation since then, hence the DRI_PRIME=118:18
Guest10575hi18:18
Cheatermank1l_: (Direct rendering was off on apps that don't explicitly call the DGC)18:18
Novice201yI don't want to adwertise other distros, but elementary on its beta page has really clever way to get money without sending request to third parties about "Sex frenzy in the weekend".18:19
ikoniaif you don't want to advertise - why are you doing it ?18:20
CheatermanNovice201y: This was certainly meant for ##chat right?18:20
ilhamihey18:20
ilhamiwhat should I choose as mount point?18:20
CheatermanNovice201y: If it was meant for ##here, please /part18:20
Cheatermanilhami: For what?18:20
k1l_ilhami: what?18:20
ilhamijust "/"?18:20
ilhamifor my partition18:20
Goose_For what?18:20
CheatermanGoose_: ^18:20
k1l_ilhami: context matters18:21
ilhamithe mount point for my partition. I could install it with acpi = off apparently18:21
Goose_Are you just trying to install ubuntu alongside windows or something?18:21
ilhamiThis is the main partition 600000 MB18:21
ilhamiI chose ext418:21
Cheatermanilhami: Troll?18:22
k1l_!installation | ilhami18:22
ubottuilhami: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate18:22
Novice201yDuring setup Ubuntu hasn't ask me about root password, but now one app ask me for this password. My user's password doesn't work here.18:22
ilhamiCheaterman, troll what?18:22
Goose_That;s what I'm thinking18:22
ikoniaNovice201y: what app18:22
Goose_You asked for help, then just kinda did it18:22
Cheatermanilhami: ACPI=off? What does it have to do with your mount point...18:22
strkhelp, I just upgraded and suddenly my desktop theme is completely different ?!18:22
k1l_Novice201y: ubuntu got no root password. it doesnt even use the root password. it uses sudo instead.18:23
ilhamiCheaterman, I couldnt install it before18:23
ilhamiyou were not here I guess18:23
Goose_strk_: upgraded how?18:23
strkUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS -- release version/name did not change18:23
ilhamiit got stuck in the installation18:23
Cheatermanilhami: Sorry then!18:23
strkGoose_: just a normal "check for upgrade" and "install all"18:23
strkcoming from the same version, so NOT a dist-upgrade18:23
Cheatermanilhami: Makes sense, some laptops need noacpi indeed18:23
ilhamiso mount point "/" is fine?18:23
strkall icons are 2 colors (black/wite) now18:23
Cheatermanilhami: Basically - yes.18:23
Novice201yikonia, Some local one.18:23
Goose_Oh, did you have a custom theme or something installed?18:24
Cheatermanilhami: You need at least one /18:24
k1l_strk: missing video drivers and now running fallback mode?18:24
Goose_Oh, weird. Lemme check something18:24
strkGoose_: nope, always used the default one, for "Gnome Flashback"18:24
ilhamihow much space do you usually give your swap area?18:24
strkk1l_: how do I check that ?18:24
Cheatermanilhami: It's recommended to give twice the RAM18:24
Goose_I gave 1.5x my RAM amaount18:24
CheatermanBut RAM size would be enough if you need more disk space18:24
ilhamiok thanks :)18:24
CheatermanNP ^__^18:24
ikoniaNovice201y: which one18:24
strkresolution seems the same, I have an external monitor and the laptop one and both seem the usual resolution and refresh rate18:24
k1l_ilhami: did you read the links the bot gave you?18:24
k1l_ilhami: honestly: you said you know all the linux stuff just hours ago. and still you seem to make sourself more issues than there should be.18:25
ilhamik1l_, no I didnt but I am also done18:25
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k1l_strk: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A318:25
strkuhm, I tried logging out and back in, tweaking something and I think I found out... "High Contrast" was ON18:26
ilhamiI want to do things the right way. Not just do them18:26
k1l_strk: ah ok18:26
strkmaybe I accidentally enabled it by randomly clicking while the monitor was still off18:26
Novice201yk1l_, Thanks. I started it from CLI with sudo, not from GUI, and works. Thanks18:26
leffican not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working18:26
strkor (possible) the upgrade changed that ?18:26
Novice201yikonia, k1l_ helped. Thanks18:26
k1l_Novice201y: dont blindly start GUI apps with sudo. that will bring you more issues afterwards18:26
Novice201yk1l_, There was no other way for this.18:27
ilhamiwhat have you called your computer? :P18:27
k1l_Novice201y: i doubt. but since you make secrets about what it is, i am not interessted anymore18:27
ilhamihow do you usually name it?18:28
k1l_!ot | ilhami18:28
ubottuilhami: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:28
ilhamilol ok18:28
k1l_ilhami: and again: reduce the line spamming please. its gettin annoying to others when you flood the channel.18:28
ilhamishhh18:28
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Guest35731Hello, plz help me, i'm trying to install deeping linux, monitor connected to nvidia card with hdmi cable. after bios i see black screen with text "input no supported", i need set nomodeset, but how switch to text mode?18:29
ikoniaGuest35731: deeping linux ?18:29
Guest35731deepin linux18:29
MonkeyDustGuest35731  wrong channel18:29
ikoniathats not ubuntu18:29
leffiSD-CARD can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working18:29
_Trulloerror: malformed file, press a key to continue.. what is this?18:30
Guest35731its ubuntu 14.04 from china18:30
k1l_deepin linux is some other linux fork.18:30
ikoniaGuest35731: it's not ubuntu18:30
ikoniaGuest35731: they have their own support resources18:30
xanguaGuest35731: ubuntu kylin is the actual ubuntu for china18:30
OerHeksGuest35731, try in #deepin18:30
Cheatermank1l_: O__O what happened18:30
CheatermanI thought you'd -q him18:31
Guest35731deepin is ubuntu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin18:31
k1l_Cheaterman: yep. and getting insulting in pm afterwards is not compatible with the Code of Conduct. so he is gone18:31
leffiSD-CARD can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working18:31
ikoniaGuest35731: "BASED" on ubuntu18:31
ikoniaGuest35731: it is not ubuntu - not supported here, no more discussion please18:32
Guest35731ok18:32
Cheatermank1l_: Oh. I didn't realize that one, sorry18:32
xanguaGuest35731: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin18:32
ikoniaGuest35731: thanks18:32
Cheatermank1l_: Also, did you read my questions above? It seems like everyone pretty much ignored me for some reason :-/18:32
k1l_Cheaterman: can you summarize what the issue is?18:33
leffiSD-CARD can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working on ubunut. either geparted nor fdisk find this sdcard18:34
Cheatermank1l_: Basically - you might remember my hybrid graphics questions from the other day?18:34
k1l_Cheaterman: no not really, sorry18:35
k1l_if you summarize others could help to18:35
k1l_*,too18:35
CheatermanI managed to get Steam to work on my cousin's computer, but starting the _whole_ session on dedicated GPU mode kinda gives a black wallpaper, and buggy menus etc18:35
CheatermanLike - apparently hybrid graphics require you to export DRI_PRIME=1 before starting the app - then the app will work on the dedicated GPU18:35
CheatermanI tried putting it in ~/.profile, and the session becomes kinda buggy18:36
CheatermanI managed to get it to work by putting it in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/18:36
CheatermanBut it might be unstable in case an update to the .deb is released - unlikely on Ubuntu, but still possible right18:36
CheatermanLike, a .deb upgrade would likely overwrite my tweaks18:36
CheatermanSo I have two questions - first, why does starting the whole session with DRI_PRIME doesn't work? It might be worth noting I'm heavily using compositing (compiz-extras, etc)18:37
CheatermanAnd second, do you have any hints on how to make my tweaks update-proof?18:37
OerHeksCheaterman, why would an update change your custom config files?18:39
CheatermanOerHeks: Because it's not exactly a config file18:40
CheatermanIt's the .desktop entry in /usr/share/applications/18:40
CheatermanTherefore upgrade → removal + install the new pkg → remove my custom .desktop, and put back the stock one18:40
k1l_Cheaterman: i dont have a nvidia card. and i am not used to prime besides making sure the driver is installed :)18:41
Cheatermank1l_: Oh it's an ATI ^^" but apparently the env var is the same :-)18:41
OerHeksCheaterman, if you worry, copy that desktopfile and rename it, so it is static18:41
ilhamiwhy was I banned?18:41
ilhamifor nothing18:41
CheatermanOerHeks: That would be an excellent idea, but I'm not very sure how to set up the dock to use my new custom config :-)18:42
CheatermanBut that's an improvement worth doing, thanks for the suggestion!18:42
freeroutehi, I'm trying to follow this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940904 - and my current situation looks like this - http://imgur.com/tdq5lRX - http://ub.kpaste.net/7f6 - The files that I want are on the minibuntu_storage but I can't seem to access it. The mounting using cryptsetup doesn't even seem to work - http://ub.kpaste.net/85b36518:42
OerHeksfreeroute, did you install lvm2 tools? sudo apt-get install lvm218:46
freerouteOerHeks: yep - http://ub.kpaste.net/ace018:47
Foxhoundzikonia: I don't know!18:47
ikoniaD|nA: don't know what ?18:48
D|nAikonia, anything18:48
ikoniaD|nA: sorry, typo18:48
ikoniaFoxhoundz: you don't know what ?18:48
Cheatermanfreeroute: You seem to know what you're doing and you provide good troubleshooting information - I'm really sorry that I don't have any experience with cryptoFS and LVM in general, otherwise I'd happily help you!18:49
freerouteCheaterman: heh this is like the 2nd time I'm dealing with something like this, so I can't say that I know what I'm doing yet :p18:51
freeroutebut thanks anyways :)18:51
Cheatermanfreeroute: You're welcome buddy, hopefully you find support and manage to fix your issues ^__^18:52
freerouteah, one can only hope (and research further of course!)18:53
javelinanddartCan someone help me backport systemd from the Utopic repos? I've tried but I run into unresolvable dependency errors and it ended up removing most of the icons in the indicator panel18:54
ikoniajavelinanddart: thats a huge task18:54
ikoniathat is not just a case of backporting the package18:54
ikoniaalso systemd is not core in utopic18:54
k1l_javelinanddart: is it about running systemd in 14.04?18:54
javelinanddartyes it is about using it as default in 14.0418:55
ikoniajavelinanddart: the distro is not setup for that at all18:55
justuseviI'm on a chromebook, trying to do X11 forwarding from my ubuntu server. I get that it can't open the display. Do I always have to export DISPLAY=chromebooksIP:0.0?18:55
javelinanddartI know. But can I do anything to hack it togther?18:55
jideexit18:55
ikoniajavelinanddart: it would basically be a huge re-write of 14.0418:55
ikoniajavelinanddart: why do you want this ?18:55
ikoniajavelinanddart: also 14.10 does not use systemd either18:56
ikoniaso backporting it from there - is not a good source18:56
Cheatermanikonia: Really? I thought it did18:56
k1l_javelinanddart: that is not "a easy one". you should talk to the guys who try to make systemd as standard. afaik there will be a backport after 16.06 for 14.04.18:56
ikoniaCheaterman: no18:56
javelinanddartikonia: seruously? that much? I know but it can use it as default18:56
ikoniajavelinanddart: yes, keep in mind it's more than just init18:56
k1l_javelinanddart: its not a simple task. you need to change a lot.18:56
Cheatermanikonia: Oh yeah but Ubuntu got upstart right? Like we have OpenRC18:57
javelinanddartWell, it's a good thing I have too much time on my hands to figure it out.18:57
ikoniajavelinanddart: I strongly advise you not to waste your time on this18:58
javelinanddartThanks. This kind of sucks. Oh well18:58
javelinanddartCheaterman: Yes we have upstart18:58
k1l_javelinanddart: talk to the systemd team on ubuntu. maybe they need help18:58
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javelinanddartk1l_: where can I talk to them18:59
javelinanddartOr maybe I should switch to Arch... Or not. I've tried installing it but I can't use Pacman or yaourt. I think in apt-get :-)19:00
omar_W MEAN ubuntu19:01
javelinanddartk1l_: ikonia: thanks again for the help19:02
MonkeyDustjavelinanddart  find the name Martin Pitt, for systemd19:02
k1l_javelinanddart: if you really want to submit and help the team ask in #ubuntu-devel but mind that is not a "i need a working package" channel19:02
javelinanddartMonkeyDust: Thanks19:02
javelinanddartk1l_: yeah you're right, thanks19:03
smallmousecan someone help adobe items seem to have stopped working on mozilla ?19:07
Cheatermansmallmouse: it's funny how I have the same issue, although mozilla's self-version-test says I'm uptodate19:09
Cheaterman(On a different distro that is)19:09
cf-xsmallmouse: When I use adobe flash in firefox I get kernel panics xD19:09
OerHekssmallmouse, use chrome, with build in pepperflash.19:09
cf-xsmallmouse: yes, im using chrome too only when I need flash :)19:10
smallmouseOerHeks: dont really want google to track the my entire life :-(19:10
cf-xsmallmouse: My first guess is that you are using google startpage in firefox anyway lol19:10
smallmousecf-x: mozilla should really resolve this losing ground to google19:10
OerHeksThere are pages around with a hack to put pepperflash in firefox, but i don't use FF.19:10
smallmousecf-x: you are correct19:10
smallmousecf-x: oh no its actually duck duck19:11
cf-xsmallmouse: anyway, we can't life without it19:11
xanguasmallmouse: are you saying mozilla should fix adobe software¿19:11
cf-xsmallmouse: ur not using a proxy are you?19:11
MonkeyDustduckduckgo is so discreet, that it's forbidden in China19:11
smallmousecf-x: g drive and gmail  has the balance of my life, i wanted to keep something away from google19:11
milambersmallmouse: there should be a red lego looking icon on the top left of the browser, next to the address bar19:11
milambersmallmouse: you should be able to click it and allow flash19:12
smallmousemilamber: thanks, i appear to have solved it..19:12
cf-xmilamber: or he should install adobe flash non free xD19:12
smallmousemilamber: i removed adobe, apt-get update19:12
smallmouseand then reinstalled19:12
cf-xsmallmouse: I'm using HTML5 player when possible, works fine too with a strong cpu lol19:13
smallmousecf-x: is there one for linux ?19:13
cf-xsmallmouse: it's build inside the browsers, FF and Chrome both support it.19:13
MonkeyDustsmallmouse  https://www.youtube.com/html519:14
smallmouseMonkeyDust: thanks19:14
cf-xI'm having a silly question, is everybody here really using ubuntu? because I've been around here for some time to time but I nearly never use Ubuntu.. xD19:15
smallmousecf-x: ubuntu for a number of years..19:15
OerHekscf-x, maybe, do you expect 1698 answers?19:15
smallmousecf-x: virtual box for the odd windows requirement19:16
smallmousecf-x: windows is more stable on virtual box on linux than when it runs as the primary os19:16
xcyclistI lost my network icon on the top bar menu.19:17
cf-xOerHeks: Maybe lol19:17
cf-xsmallmouse: meh, not really - depends on what OS your running :) Everyone knows all above 7 is trash19:18
daftykinssmallmouse: that's a ridiculous statement19:19
smallmousedaftykins: its sure true for my machine19:19
daftykinsperhaps you're not too versed in setting up Windows well - and run an illegal copy19:20
ianorlinor have something with badly written drivers or something19:20
smallmousedaftykins: but its some time since i have use windows as a main os, so they may have improved over some time.19:20
cf-xdaftykins: it can be true because vbox is running drivers that will always work - and yes I guess he forgot to setup drivers correctly maybe19:20
smallmousedaftykins: it just feels moe stable19:20
daftykinscf-x: that doesn't comment on the stability of the OS, but the experience of the installer :)19:21
daftykinsi see where you're coming from though19:21
rsajdok|awayI try to upgrade 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts I get error http://pastie.org/9896068#29-30 some idea?19:21
daftykinsrsajdok|away: server? ugh foreign language D:19:21
rsajdok|awaydaftykins: yes, server19:22
daftykinswell if you'd like to make an English translation link available that'd be handy19:23
cf-xdaftykins: I wouldn't even name that a language xD19:24
smallmousedaftykins: installation should be straight forward just look at ios19:25
DJonescf-x: The language is Polish19:25
smallmousedaftykins: shouldnt need a computer science experience to run an os and get it to work, and have to trash it every 3 months as the os gets too slow19:25
daftykinssmallmouse: that's off topic and irrelevant thanks19:25
daftykinssmallmouse: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to carry on. support only in here.19:26
smallmousedaftykins: sorry19:26
cf-xDJones: Wow, ok, thanks :)19:26
DJones!pl | rsajdok|away The Ubuntu polish channel may be better able to help you in Polish language, but feel free to ask here (but the channel language is English) so may be more difficult to help19:27
ubottursajdok|away The Ubuntu polish channel may be better able to help you in Polish language, but feel free to ask here (but the channel language is English) so may be more difficult to help: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.19:27
cf-x!help19:27
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:27
CheatermanDJones: ^__^19:29
DJonesCheaterman: ?19:30
CheatermanDJones: Bliblibli! I loved how you !pl-ed someone, and said what the bot says before it did19:31
Cheaterman^__^ that's all19:31
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MobbadHi, im having file sharing problems between my xubuntu and win8. I can find the comp and brows it but i cant see any folders, and samba won´t start. Can any one point me in the right direction ?19:36
[RO]DanielMobbad, http://askubuntu.com/questions/107208/how-to-setup-a-lan-between-ubuntu-and-windows19:42
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[RO]DanielMobbad, or this http://www.howtogeek.com/176471/how-to-share-files-between-windows-and-linux/19:45
[RO]Danielor this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/ubuntu1404-file-sharing-samba/19:45
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MobbadThanks gonna cheak it out19:46
Gradyhello, I I cannot get past the login screen, I enter my password, or try to use the guest account, but then the screen shoots black and the prompts me to log in again... no "wrong password" No info at all.... I restarted my pc to refresh after i uninstalled some software and this happened19:52
daftykinsGrady: what did you remove?19:54
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linelevelHi, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04. I open a terminal and run `sudo pm-hibernate`, but nothing happens. Can anyone help?19:56
daftykinslinelevel: all i know about hibernation and sleep, is make sure you have a swap partition the same size / greater than your physical RAM total19:58
Ozymandias42Hey. Just short little question. I am currently installing Ubuntu on an UEFI Device and I was wondering. I changed the Bootloader Location from the drive itself to it’s EFI Partition. Was that correct or am I in for surprise when I try to boot?20:01
daftykinsOzymandias42: as in to /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda? sounds like you're booted in legacy mode, as that's not relevant to UEFI installs i don't think20:02
Gradydaftykins: I removed fcitx the languange software for chinese inputs, I downloaded it, installed it, didnt like it, then uninstalled it20:02
daftykinsthere should be a FAT partition 300MB+ for /boot20:02
_Trullomy ubuntu locks.. I got to the xubuntu screen.. and then completely dead.. still got the screen though, but frozen. what do I do?20:02
daftykinsGrady: ok, are you typing from another device?20:02
Gradyyessir20:02
Ozymandias42daftykins, as in ‘to /dev/sda1’ and I can’t have booted to legacy mode as the device in question doesn’t have one^^20:02
Ozymandias42*has one20:02
daftykinsGrady: can you log in at the console, TTY1, by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?20:02
Gradyyessir, im logged into tty120:03
daftykins!uefi | Ozymandias42 so just to confirm, you see the white text on black background boot screen as seen here?20:03
ubottuOzymandias42 so just to confirm, you see the white text on black background boot screen as seen here?: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:03
daftykinsGrady: ok, can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" and link the resulting URL here? be sure you're running this as your user, not root@hostname20:04
Ozymandias42unfortunaltey not. I used my own uefi bootloader. so I am pretty sure I am in uefi mode20:04
Gradybtw daftykins, I rolled back the kernel im using, none of them work... i am currently on the oldest one... should I reload and jump on the newest kernel?20:04
daftykinsOzymandias42: your own? what? :)20:04
Ozymandias42daftykins, not written by me if you are thinking that. Just one that I used a while ago when I played with Ubuntu on Macs. It’s one where I just have to copy the ISO into the Efi/boot folder and rename it to boot.iso. the rest is magic20:05
Gradypaste.ubuntu.com/10114813/20:07
daftykinsOzymandias42: so i take it we're not speaking of a mac right now?20:07
Ozymandias42nope. The preinstalled system is a securebooted win8.120:07
k1l_Grady: what is in .xsession-errors?20:07
Ozymandias42and I am trying to install ubuntu alongside in uefi mode.20:07
daftykinsk1l_: it's 0 size20:07
daftykinsOzymandias42: did you already use windows disk management to resize the disk, leaving empty space at the end?20:08
k1l_daftykins: Grady ah yes, seems to be empty20:08
Gradyk1l: Imma just sit here and pretend like i knew what you just asked me20:08
daftykinsk1l_: Grady hmm i don't really see how to proceed with that one, very odd to hear the Guest account is busted too20:09
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CheatermanOwi /me iz back ^__^ ready for some support20:09
Ozymandias42daftykins, yes I did. The installation is finishing as we speak. seems I messed the bootloader part up. installation of efi-grub failed.20:09
toan_hi all, can someone report this bug for me20:09
Cheatermantoan_: No.20:09
toan_using vi, if you were to exit vi with command ":;wq!" it will remove the content of the file20:10
Cheatermantoan_: wut20:10
* Cheaterman tests20:10
daftykinsOzymandias42: did you partition manually?20:10
toan_it happens on kubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 10.xx as well20:10
Gradydaftykins: is a ubuntu reinstall in my future? I dont really have anything i need to save20:10
DJones!behelpful | Cheaterman20:10
ubottuCheaterman: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.20:10
Cheatermantoan_: Apparently it would remove the first line in any case20:11
CheatermanDJones: x)20:11
daftykinsGrady: hmm, it's up to you as to how much time you can be bothered to put into a potential fix i guess :) i'm not even a desktop guy so it's likely other volunteers here would have far better ideas20:11
Cheatermantoan_: I have no idea why though TBH - but here it only removes the first line20:11
Ozymandias42daftykins, yes i did. The only thing I’ve been confused about was where to install the bootloader to. Since the guides never explicitly said I had to choose the EFI partition. I just assumed that I had to.20:11
Cheatermantoan_: In any case, it's a vi-related question/bug, not ubuntu-related20:11
Gradydaftykins: everytime i have been here its ended up with me not wanting to troubleshoot anymore and reinstalling haha20:12
Gradythanks for the help20:12
daftykinsOzymandias42: well, it should have either auto highlighted the FAT EFI partition and set it to mount as /boot, or you may've needed to. with Windows 8 laptops, you typically need to go into the EFI and select to change the default boot device from "Windows Boot Manager" to the hard disk/SSD device name instead20:12
Ozymandias42daftykins, a crap. I did just the opposite. I changed it from the root devie to windows boot manager.20:13
daftykinsOzymandias42: hehe, it was failing when as the disk though?20:13
CheatermanDJones: !behelpful daftykins20:14
Cheaterman:D20:14
Ozymandias42daftykins, the installtion was running smoothly. and yep, it failed exactly when it tried to install efi-grub20:14
daftykinsCheaterman: what are you doing?20:14
Ozymandias42I just do it manually from terminal. should work, too, shouldn’t it?20:14
daftykinsOzymandias42: what's that from terminal? a grub-install ?20:15
Ozymandias42daftykins, yes20:15
daftykinsOzymandias42: hmm, you can always give boot repair a run20:15
daftykins!bootrepair20:15
ubottuBoot-Repair is a simple tool to repair frequent boot issues you may encounter in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for more info.20:15
Ozymandias42daftykins, Okay, then I try this. Thank you.20:16
_Trullowhat's a cpu friendly ubuntu version?20:16
daftykinsOzymandias42: if you save the URL it may create, our resident boot genius (not me) might be available20:16
daftykins_Trullo: given all computers have a CPU, i'd say they're all CPU friendly :)20:17
daftykins_Trullo: can you be a little bit more specific?20:17
NymeriaFR_Trullo, what you means ?20:17
Ozymandias42daftykins, okidoki. I’ll keep that in mind20:17
_TrulloI think the latest version I'm running is too big for my computer20:17
_TrulloI get random locks and shit..20:17
k1l__Trullo: what hardware is it?20:18
_Trullodoing memtest too see if it locks again20:18
k1l__Trullo: see "dmesg" or the syslog to get to know what that locks are20:18
_Trulloit's a intel core 2 3.2ghz20:18
_Trullocan't even log in20:18
daftykinsnothing wrong with that20:18
NymeriaFRshould be enought20:19
daftykinsperhaps you're trying to use unity on a system without enough RAM20:19
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_Trullo4gb enough?20:19
NymeriaFRYes20:19
_Trullotest 7 failed..20:20
k1l__Trullo: that is fine. run memtest if that is ok20:20
daftykins_Trullo: top suspects: 1) bad RAM, 2) bad hard disk 3) bad ubuntu ISO download 4) bad media (DVD / flash drive) etc20:20
daftykins_Trullo: oh, are you getting lots of red lines?20:20
k1l_*the dualcore and 4gb ram is fine. if memtest brings up errors that is not fine20:20
_Trullo1 so far20:20
daftykinsyeah even 1 is very bad20:20
daftykins_Trullo: are you experienced with hardware? i.e. removing RAM?20:21
_Trulloso just replace ram then?20:21
daftykinsif you have multiple RAM modules, you can remove one and memtest again to see if maybe only one of say, 2+ are faulty20:21
yodaso how does one turn off heap based randomization in linux and windows based systems ... not stack based randomization HEAP20:21
_Trullohttps://www.flickr.com/photos/gtpp52/sets/72157623475451366/ this is the computer.. I'll replace the ram20:23
NymeriaFRazazerezsqxdsqdzedrftgfedaqzsrfta&qzsedrfgthyugttttttttttttttttPÀOIUJOIPÀOIKOÇIOÇIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBHJG102.320:24
NymeriaFR+6547820:24
NymeriaFROups20:24
NymeriaFRsorry guys20:24
* daftykins sharpens a penguin for NymeriaFR 20:25
MobbadNymeriaFR,    cat jump on the keyboard :D20:25
_Trullono he didn't20:26
_TrulloI'd like to see a cat produce 102.3 :)20:26
NymeriaFRExactly20:27
NymeriaFRI love my cat but sometimes20:27
daftykinsoff topic, people.20:28
MarkLessangerso I think I a really annoying bug in ubuntu 14.04. Do you all have the problem when you install ubuntu with LUKS full disk encryption that your keyboard drivers don't seem to load when you need to put your encryption password in?20:29
OerHeksusb keyboard, most likely?20:30
daftykinsnope, though i'm not masochistic enough to use FDE. i'd bet you're tripping up on a USB keyboard issue20:30
MarkLessangeryes20:30
daftykinsOerHeks: ^5!20:30
daftykinsMarkLessanger: check your system BIOS for USB legacy support options. likely they are conflicting20:30
daftykinsor try a replug20:30
MarkLessangertried replug. the numlock light stays on and none of the other keys respond.20:31
MarkLessangerIll check BIOS settings though real quick.20:31
NymeriaFRGuys, I have a problem with unity ! Sometimes when I start my computer unity-lens-application does not work20:31
NymeriaFRI have to restart my computer20:31
NymeriaFRHave you any tips for restart only application lens ?20:35
Ozymandias42NymeriaFR, you could do a little research with ps to see if it has it’s own process. Than you could kill and restart it. If you’re not so lucky it’s part of the whole dash and you have to restart the whole thing20:37
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p3nt3sthi20:38
daftykinshello20:38
p3nt3sti have problem in ubuntu 14.0420:39
daftykins!details20:39
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)20:39
Seveasp3nt3st: have you tried turning it off and on again?20:39
NymeriaFROzymandias42, It's a knowed bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/87221920:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 872219 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "Applications lens "disappears"" [Medium,Invalid]20:40
daftykinsSeveas: don't waste peoples time.20:40
NymeriaFRI'm just looking for a tips for rebooting the lens20:40
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Ozymandias42NymeriaFR, if it’s a known bug. just install the patch or update if there is any. You said you’re using 14.04 would updating be a problem?20:41
daftykinssuggesting to upgrade to non-LTS would be an unwise suggestion imo :)20:41
OerHeksNymeriaFR,  maybe answer #38 works for you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/87221920:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 872219 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "Applications lens "disappears"" [Medium,Invalid]20:42
p3nt3sti cannot setting tmux for split screen20:42
p3nt3stguide me to setting tmux please20:43
NymeriaFROerHeks, Thank you, I will keep it in mind20:43
PDG1where should I go to troubleshoot sound issues?20:43
NymeriaFRNext time this problem appear, i will try it20:44
PrezidentPDG1: huh? try alsamixer in terminal and see if anything is muted20:44
Seveasp3nt3st: ctrl-b "20:44
PDG1Prezident, looks like everything is on20:44
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p3nt3stSaveas: oh thank20:47
PDG1Prezident, I've been on the googles for most of the morning trying to get this working. It's coming through x 970 HDMI port to my TV20:49
p3nt3sthey how to swap screen tmux20:50
daftykinsp3nt3st: use a freely available guide online from google to learn how to use software, don't rely on users time. Try this - http://www.sitepoint.com/tmux-a-simple-start/20:51
Seveasp3nt3st: c-b { / c-b }20:52
Seveasp3nt3st: the manpage lists all keybindings...20:52
p3nt3stThank a lot20:53
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totesmuhgoatshey guys20:59
daftykinswb21:00
totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: i didn'tk now you were in this channel too21:00
daftykinsoh yeah i usually see you in kodi21:00
daftykinsor something21:01
totesmuhgoatswell, i'm trying to figure out why i don't have a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv script21:01
daftykinssaw someone refer to that the other day, i wonder if it's down to virtualbox changing startup script handling21:01
totesmuhgoatsi did apt-get --purge virtualbox*; apt-get install virtualbox21:01
daftykinsno clue myself - i would poke the virtualbox people in #vbox i think it is, possibly ##21:02
totesmuhgoatsyea, i ownder if it is simply not included in the package anymore21:02
totesmuhgoatsi can't type today21:02
daftykinsare you missing the kernel modules?21:02
totesmuhgoatsi seem to be missing vboxdrv21:02
totesmuhgoatsbut i only guess that because modprobe vboxdrv fails21:02
totesmuhgoatslsmod shows nothing vbox related21:02
totesmuhgoatsbut i figure that only shows loaded modules21:03
totesmuhgoatsi did install virtualbox-dkms21:03
daftykinswell like i say, shortest route may be to ask people that are in its' channel...21:03
totesmuhgoatsi saw it build the module, it failed to run the script at the end though, because the init.d script doesn't exist21:03
MarkLessangerlegacy support is indeed enabled21:03
totesmuhgoatsyea, i'll give it a go21:03
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daftykinsMarkLessanger: so, you toggled it?21:04
totesmuhgoatsi came here because i thought maybe there was some apt magic i could use to search for it, i tried dpkg -s21:04
MarkLessangerno it was on by default21:04
OerHekstotesmuhgoats, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` might do the trick >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue21:04
p3nt3stexit21:05
daftykinsMarkLessanger: right, and that's what i said was likely the problem... ?21:05
MarkLessangeroh! that fact that it is on. What does the legacy support even offer?21:06
totesmuhgoatsOerHeks: thanks, i know for a fact i have linux-headers installed because i did it manually, but there's no harm in trying again21:06
daftykinsMarkLessanger: USB keyboard support provided by the BIOS for USB functionality prior to OS load21:07
daftykinsMarkLessanger: so in essence, there's a war for control of your USB peripherals at boot right now :)21:07
mohsenmohieyفي حد بيتكلم عربي21:08
MarkLessangeromg, wonder who will win. So if I turn legacy support off I will still be able to access my BIOS via keyboard right?21:08
MarkLessangerYou said perOS so that raised a concern. I am using an UEFI BIOS if that matters21:09
daftykinsMarkLessanger: go and try it21:09
daftykins:)21:09
daftykinsall will be fine.21:09
MarkLessangerlol thanks daftykins21:09
MarkLessangeryou have helped out quite a bit.21:10
totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: seem to have found the problem, or at least part of the problem21:10
daftykinswell, i hope so21:10
totesmuhgoatsstill don't know why the init script is missing, but reinstalling the kernel headers dkms tries to do it's thing21:10
totesmuhgoatslog shows that one of the vbox objects fails to build properly21:10
MarkLessangerbrb again, ill let you know if it ends up working.21:10
totesmuhgoatsOerHeks: thanks for the suggestion, it has yielded something that will prove helpful :)21:11
OerHekstotesmuhgoats, great, have fun!21:11
MarkLessangercould have something to do with my keyboard being in a USB 3.0 slot too....21:12
daftykinsMarkLessanger: oh yes that would be very unwise21:13
Seveasdaftykins: why that?21:13
backboxkaesar21:14
daftykinsSeveas: seriously?21:14
backboxhallo brother...21:14
Seveasdaftykins: yes. It's supposed to be backwards compatible, no?21:14
MarkLessangerdriver support21:15
[1]MN`/server irc.freenode.net21:15
daftykinswelcome to USB 3 and its' quirks in real world implementations21:15
daftykins[1]MN: you're already on it21:15
backboxKaesar21:16
backboxhallo I am new comer..here21:16
daftykinsbackbox: please private message or take your chat to another channel if you wish to talk to that user.21:16
flexusi'm using supercollider software. installing some extension made it unusable. some class library problem. does anybody know how to correct it ?21:16
daftykinsbackbox: ok, this is a support channel for Ubuntu - general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic21:17
[1]MN#ubuntu-offtopic21:17
Seveasflexus: at the risk of stating the obvious: have you remove the extension yet?21:17
MarkLessangerat the absolute worst I can just encrypt my home folder and any files I want to keep safe. its mostly programs that I write anyway. And I can easily encrypt those.21:19
MarkLessangerinstead of using luks for the full disk encryption. I have always done it though in the past.21:19
flexusSeveas, i tried to lookup all the files, deleted the stuff in /usr/share and found stuff in /home/. maybe there are more files to delete21:19
daftykinsMarkLessanger: what's wrong with just trying a USB 2 port and toggling the BIOS option? why all this talk? action! ACTION! :)21:19
flexusSeveas, it seemed supercollider compiled something in the system during startup21:20
Seveasfun... maybe remove supercollider completely and reinstall?21:21
Seveas(I've never used supercollider, so can't really give more useful answers)21:21
flexusafterwards i read that installing extensions in supercollider is a problem21:22
MarkLessangerlol waiting for ubuntu to reinstall. was just throwing ideas out there21:22
flexusi didnt really need the extension. tried to purge supercollider21:22
daftykinsMarkLessanger: oh i thought this was a working install.21:22
flexusSeveas, np, maybe i can figure it out myself21:23
hydrocathello ?21:24
Seveashi!21:24
hydrocat:D cool !21:24
SeveasWhat Ubuntu emergency can we help you with today hydrocat?21:25
hydrocatso.. this is how IRC is like :)21:25
hydrocatoh.. nothing, im just messing around with a irc client and it pointed me into coming here21:25
Seveasheh21:25
SeveasWell, this is ubuntu's support channel. For more random nonsense chat, you're more than welcome to join us in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel21:26
hydrocatOh, i see21:26
hydrocatwell, i`ll find a better channel for a private chat :)21:27
hydrocatthank you for your hospitality !21:27
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lord4163Can I prevent shutdowns if a cronjob is running?21:28
[1]MNnope you cannot21:28
lord4163[1]MN: Why not?21:29
MonkeyDustlord4163  start from the beginning, what brings you here21:29
MarkLessangerlol trashed it after 3 reinstalls21:29
[1]MNshutdown when given ire init6 it would signal all the process to21:29
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lord4163MonkeyDust: Well I got a backup script, but when that runs I don't want someone to shutdown the computer.21:30
[1]MNbe shutdown first and then it would completley shut it down21:30
Seveaslord4163: you can make the cronjob chmod -x the relevant binaries (initctl, shutdown reboot etc...)21:30
excelsiorahey, 15 year old Macbook, worth trying to install Lubuntu on?21:30
Seveasthough that would qualify as a nasty hack and still won't prevent someone from pulling the plug :)21:30
Seveasexcelsiora: no. Worth throwing in the bin.21:31
[1]MNlord4163 that should be scheduled accordingly else any one with super user access can proceed with powering off21:31
excelsioraMy thoughts, but wanted to see if that was the concensus of the Ubuntu support channel...21:31
malvoresi just read... i don't participate much21:32
ThinkT510excelsiora: if you think you can get use out of it then there is no harm in trying21:32
MonkeyDustexcelsiora  if you like experiments, try this http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm21:32
lord4163Seveas: Maybe I can add something to the shutdown script in the mate desktop?21:33
daftykinsexekias: 15yo sounds like it'd be PowerPC, correct?21:33
daftykinsoops21:33
daftykinsexcelsiora: ^21:33
daftykinsexekias: sorry, bad highlight21:33
excelsiorathanks guys21:34
excelsiorapuppy tho, really?21:34
MonkeyDustexcelsiora  it me unusable foor PPC, as daftykins suggests (or seems to suggest)21:35
Puck6633I'm trying to set up an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system with a KVM switch, but when I switch away from the system and back the keyboard and mouse no longer work. Am I doing something wrong?21:35
daftykinsexcelsiora: i would have to agree with euthanising this museum piece21:36
Puck6633If I reboot with the switch set to the Ubuntu machine the keyboard and mouse work fine.21:36
PreePuck6633 what is LTS system?21:37
ThinkT510!lts | Pree21:37
ubottuPree: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)21:37
MonkeyDustPree  lts is long term support21:37
Puck6633Both devices are USB, and the switch is this one if it helps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681739903221:37
lord4163Seveas: this may actually not be needed because my backup utility can handle interupts21:38
Puck6633The other machine (this one) is Windows 7 and it detects both inputs well enough when I switch.21:38
PreeMonkeyDust Thanks21:42
MarkLessangerwell it worked. I set legacy mode to auto detect. That way if I ever need it for some reason it will be available to me.21:45
daftykinsMarkLessanger: huzzah \o/21:48
MarkLessangerlol thanks for the help, ill add this advice to my repertoire21:48
MarkLessangerin case I ever need to pass it on to some one else.21:49
daftykinsMarkLessanger: :) no problemo21:49
daftykinsi like the easy ones21:49
MarkLessangerSome of these new features are kind of annoying but I do not miss the days where you had to recompile the kernel for every little change you wanted to make lol21:50
MarkLessangerill take the minor inconveniences21:50
djangoFoxandxss: Well, my nick is based on my real name, and I'm not even a21:51
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djangooops21:52
DamienMhi21:59
DamienManyone here?21:59
DamienM?'22:00
ThinkT510plenty of people are here22:00
DamienMlol22:00
cf-xI'm here22:03
foobarbazHi Ubuntu, just demonstrating IRC to a potential buyer.22:05
foobarbazTalk to me22:05
SchrodingersScat!ot | foobarbaz22:05
ubottufoobarbaz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:05
cf-xhello foobarbaz22:05
foobarbazthanks!22:06
cf-xfoobarbaz: your welcome :)22:06
excelsio1aHi, foobarbaz, welcome to Ubuntu22:08
Apachez"buyer"?22:13
Apachezso you sell "IRC"?22:13
daftykins!ot22:13
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:13
Puck6633Managed to solve my problem. Switching to a tty mode revealed the error "usbhid 2-1.6:1.2: can't add hid device: -71" which when I googled it turned up results suggesting editing the BIOS USB settings. Turning on EHCI Hand-off in the BIOS allows the keyboard and mouse to switch normally! :D22:13
ThinkT510!yay | Puck663322:14
ubottuPuck6633: Glad you made it! :-)22:14
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chebitAgent Smith ... lol22:38
chebitAgent Smioth you are virus !22:39
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lestadhello22:44
Tg1hi22:44
bruxCanyone running a media server on a VM that's on a linux os?22:45
lestadhas smb?22:45
bruxCkind of a really specific question.22:45
bruxCyeah.22:45
lestadhow run mongo under openvz?22:45
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MonkeyDust!anyone | bruxC22:50
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MonkeyDust!ask | bruxC22:50
ubottubruxC: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:50
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bruxCYeah I didn't ask to ask a question.22:51
bruxC!ask | MonkeyDust22:51
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lestadexit22:52
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Shadow_x23Abend gibt es für Ubuntu ein Programm welches die Bestandteile vom PC wiedergibt (was für eine Grafikkarte verbaut wurde, Soundkarte etc.)22:52
daftykinsbruxC: can you be more specific?22:52
daftykins!english | Shadow_x2322:52
ubottuShadow_x23: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList22:52
daftykinsShadow_x23: #ubuntu-de otherwise22:52
msdaisy!german | Shadow_x2322:53
ubottuShadow_x23: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!22:53
k1l_Shadow_x23: hier ist der englische kanal. aber "lshw" suchst du :)22:53
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bruxCdaftykins, sure. I currently run plex (and other apps) on ubuntu 14.04 server. the server is hosted in an esxi 5.5 environment. I allocated a bunch of ram and a 2 cores. for whatever reason, I am having issues with chromecast streaming to this VM ubuntu setup. However, I have no issues if I connect my windows plex (physical) server to chromecast.22:54
anonymous__hello22:54
bruxCSo I'd like to know i anyone has had similar issues with plex on a linux os that's ran on a vm and hosted on an esxi host.22:54
anonymous__hello_22:55
anonymous__i need help22:55
daftykinsbruxC: hmm, tough one that given it's involving much greater influencing factors than solely being an ubuntu query. is it the only VM powered on?22:56
bruxCCurrently the only VM powered on. I wanted to make sure that no other vms were influencing this issue.22:56
ghone3Is it easter today?22:57
dsdudeHey guys I have a quick question22:57
daftykinsghone3: unless the rabbit is running Ubuntu, that question is off topic.22:57
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daftykinsbruxC: i'm more a Kodi user so - if Plex on the server is the backend, is the chromecast in the TV pulling over the content?22:58
ghone3Oh.  Wait, is there some sort of calendar program in Ubuntu that keeps track of holidays in major world religions?22:59
bruxCI'm not entirely sure how chromecast works.22:59
bruxCIt's an HDMI plug-in that runs on Wi-Fi.22:59
bruxCso an user can fire up a google chrome browser tab and install the chromecast extension. once installed, you can stream your tabs.22:59
dsdudeI have a second t TB HDD I want to install linux onto, if I partition 200 gb and install the grub bootloader on/dev/sdb (which would be my second hard drive), could I just boot linux through the bios by selecting the hard drive its on? or would I need to use the entire 1 TB drive for linux and put the bootloader on /dev/sdb to boot from the bios22:59
bruxCPlex has a chromecast icon that you can use as well which is what seems to be the issue. It's almost like the vm is bottlenecked by something.23:00
daftykinsbruxC: ok but that goes from for example, a user's laptop in front of them direct to the device - how does Plex fit into this?23:00
mikahilgood resources for new ubuntu phone?23:00
bruxCPlex is where the media resides.23:00
mikahilnoted23:00
k1l_bruxC: see this http://www.reddit.com/r/Chromecast/comments/1umk7t/lets_make_this_the_last_how_do_i_play_local/23:01
SailorRI have a problem23:01
SailorRrecently installed ubuntu and23:01
SailorRit says im connected to my wifi23:01
k1l_mikahil: by it from bq :)  more infos in #ubuntu-touch23:01
bruxCso plex is 172.20.2.1, laptop is 172.20.2.10, and chromecast is 172.20.2.20. Laptop will go to 172.20.2.1:32400/web (plex web client). Laptop will press a plex button. Plex button will shoot over to chromecast.23:01
SailorRbut when I open firefox it wont let me go to any websites23:02
SailorRI type in google.com and it wont let me press enter23:02
NymeriaFRhum23:02
NymeriaFRis firefox use any proxy ?23:02
SailorRnope23:03
SailorRdef not23:03
NymeriaFRedit -> preference -> advanced -> network -> setting23:03
NymeriaFRcheck23:03
k1l_bruxC: the chromecast setup and workflow is quite special. i think you will have more luck asking the chromecast community to sort a way that suits you23:03
daftykinsbruxC: ok, have you tried different format videos?23:03
NymeriaFR(in firefox)23:03
SailorRok23:03
bruxCI have.23:04
bruxCk1l_, I figured. I'm currently in their IRC but it's quite dead.23:04
bruxCI guess I was looking to see if there is perhaps a setting I missed or a specific configuration I should shoot for, for the VM ubuntu server I have configured23:05
bruxCBut your'e right, this probably isn't the right place for the question.23:05
SailorRno proxy23:05
SailorRNymeriaFR23:05
daftykinsbruxC: ah yes, the "echo 0 > stop_working_for_bruxC" command ;)23:05
daftykinsbruxC: so i take it XviD/MPEG2 vs. HD files made no difference?23:06
bruxCI've only tried mp4 and mkv23:06
NymeriaFRhum23:07
daftykinsbruxC: those are containers, not codecs23:07
NymeriaFRin your console23:07
NymeriaFRtry  to type : "ping 8.8.8.8"23:07
bruxCsorry.23:07
daftykinsNymeriaFR: it'd be a lot less spammy for everyone if you could restrict your advice to nice single lines instead of the same spam our helpees generate :)23:07
bruxCI'm not sure about the question then.23:07
SailorRNymeriaFR it 40s23:08
SailorR404s23:08
daftykinsbruxC: Plex offers video transcode capabilities, trying a native format would have a lower overhead and might play smoother/better on the device.23:08
bruxCwhat is classified as a native format?23:08
NymeriaFRHave you something like : PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.23:08
NymeriaFR64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=33.3 ms23:08
NymeriaFR ??23:08
daftykinsbruxC: whatever the chromecast supports, which i don't know.23:09
bruxCI don't think chromecast works like that though.. I mean, I could be completely wrong.23:09
daftykinsbruxC: ah well, you're in #plex i take it?23:10
SailorRNymeriaFR  one sec i just ave to plug it in again23:10
k1l_bruxC: please see my reddit link which explains a lot of your questions.23:10
SailorRyea23:14
SailorRI get23:14
SailorR64 bytes of data23:14
SailorRNymeriaFR23:14
daftykinsSailorR: ctrl+C to stop it.23:15
SailorRdone23:15
NymeriaFROkay23:15
NymeriaFRNow try to type : "ping google.com"23:15
SailorRok23:16
SailorRsame thing23:16
SailorR64 bytes23:16
SailorRI also tried to purge firefox and reinstall but23:17
SailorRit 404d23:17
daftykinsSailorR: this is on the affected machine, which isn't connected by any other method? (e.g. wired network cable)23:17
SailorRyes23:18
NymeriaFRIt's weird. You can ping 8.8.8.8 and google.com (that mean you have an internet connection and a dns resolver valid)23:18
SailorRits just connected via wifi23:18
SailorRNymeriaFR I know im thinking its someting to do with firefox but idk23:18
whippyCan someone help me with a sudoers edit to restrict a group to a list of commands? (trying: DEVELOPERS ALL=NOPASSWD: DEPLOY_COMMANDS)23:19
NymeriaFRis "wget google.com" return positive message ?23:20
SailorRchecking23:21
SailorRyes23:21
SailorRit works23:21
teeheeshecho $shell23:22
teeheeshups23:22
NymeriaFRhum23:23
NymeriaFRtry to type : "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit && ifconfig | pastebinit"23:23
SailorRok23:24
NymeriaFRsend me the link send by thoses command23:24
whippyI believe the aliases are set up correctly but members of DEVELOPERS still cannot execute the commands.23:24
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SailorRNymeriaFR it says23:25
SailorRfailed to fetch23:25
SailorR404 not found IP 91.189.91.23:8023:25
SailorRsome index files failed to download23:26
NymeriaFRCurrently, are you under ubuntu ?23:26
SailorRyes23:26
whippyCan someone help me with a sudoers edit to restrict a group to a list of commands? (trying: DEVELOPERS ALL=NOPASSWD: DEPLOY_COMMANDS)23:26
NymeriaFRsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit23:26
NymeriaFRis it working ?23:27
SailorRone sec23:27
SailorRit looked like it was then same message failed to fetch23:27
NymeriaFRThere is something I don't understand23:29
ghhofstetterhello, after installing steam I am getting an open gl driver error, I beleive its because I switched graphics cards (the one currently doesnt work well with what I am trying to play), the game plays with the x.org driver, but horribly so I want to switch to a proprietary driver, but then I get that error... anyone know how to download the upates for steam on the driver and any way to get rid of this opengl error?23:29
NymeriaFRcan you past me on past ubuntu the result of "ifconfig" ?23:29
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SailorRyes23:30
SailorRhmm23:31
SailorRguess theres a prob23:31
SailorRnot sure how to do that lol without internet23:31
SailorRim on windows now on IRC23:31
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NymeriaFRI think you have not internet23:32
NymeriaFRif you can't make un "apt-get upgrade" that mean your are not connected to internet23:32
SailorRhm23:32
NymeriaFRBut you can ping google, that is weird23:32
kostkonghhofstetter, what's the card, what's the error23:33
NymeriaFRThat why I said there is something I can't understand23:33
cachitoHi23:34
NymeriaFRHi23:34
cachitoI have nothing to ask23:35
ghhofstetterthe card I am trying to use is Nvidia legacy binary driver 304.... the error i get is  could not find opengl entry point 'glgeterror'! either your vido card is unsupported or your open gldriver needs to be updated23:36
ghhofstetterthe thing is how do i update it?23:36
kostkonghhofstetter, which game are you trying to run23:36
ghhofstetterdota223:36
dacorrPerhaps the connection is allowing ICMP packets for the ping but not DNS look ups. presuming Google is used more often it is likely to be cached and does not need to look it up. Have you tried using nslookup for ubuntu.com23:38
kostkonghhofstetter, on its page it gives nvidia 310 as a requirement http://store.steampowered.com/app/57023:39
ghhofstetterok, well i also tried it with the 331, and i get the same error23:41
tunafish_14.10, laptop, touchpad mostly doesn't work, elantouch, works on win, works for about a few reboots after win boot. Any ideas? its not on in "/proc/bus/input/devices"23:41
kostkonghhofstetter, did you reboot after installing the driver23:44
ghhofstetterno, that could solve a lot of problems huh?23:45
ghhofstetterbrb23:45
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