[00:00] <k1l_> votlon: then "sudo restart lightdm"
[00:00] <erikk> Okay, that's all I wanted to know
[00:00] <votlon> k1l_: my cnt + alt + f1 / f2 / f4 make my screen go black and not go back :/
[00:00] <votlon> k1l_: when i do cnt + alt + f7 is restores the screen
[00:01] <k1l_> votlon: so no working tty for you? you could try the recovery or a live system and delete that file in the users home
[00:02] <votlon> im logged into my user right now, i can only log into it if i choose my i3wm desktop
[00:02] <votlon> but what config file would i delete in my home to reset lightdm?
[00:03] <k1l_> votlon: oh ok. then start a terminal and see who the owner of that file is
[00:03] <votlon> k1l_: what file name am i lookin for?
[00:03] <k1l_> .Xauthority, like i said above
[00:04] <votlon> k1l_: oh my bad i must have missed it
[00:04] <votlon> its owned by my user d-rw --- --- votlon:votlon
[00:05] <k1l_> d? its not a directory
[00:05] <votlon> oh my bad my fonts too small in my terminal xD
[00:05] <votlon> its just -rw- --- ---
[00:05] <k1l_> hmm ok.
[00:05] <k1l_> that would have been a easy solution.
[00:06] <votlon> i did have an issue earlier where it was owned by root
[00:06] <votlon> cuz i ran sudo startx like a nub
[00:06] <k1l_> well yes, startx is bad
[00:06] <momoterr> everytime i kill that process it spawns a new one under a different name
[00:06] <momoterr> k1l_, I cant see what is iniside that file
[00:06] <k1l_> are other things owned by root?
[00:06] <momoterr> if i do cat the binary
[00:06] <momoterr> the console is frozen
[00:07] <k1l_> votlon: usually .gvfs is the only thing owned by root
[00:07] <votlon> k1l_: owned by root: .dbus .gcfs .ICeauthority .viminfo .wireshark
[00:08] <k1l_> votlon: well, .ICEau.. and .dbus should be owned by user user too and might be the issue here
[00:08] <OerHeks> momoterr, i think it is time to resore a backup.
[00:09] <k1l_> maybe need to -r on the .dbus folder
[00:09] <votlon> k1l_: do i need to -r the .dbus as well?
[00:10] <k1l_> votlon: yes
[00:11] <votlon> k1l_: kk let me see if it worked
[00:12] <vice> Hey, I have three machines running ubuntu 14 and am trying to figure out the best way to "manage" - e.g. x, vnc, etc. Anyone able to point me toward a good tool / reference?
[00:14] <votlon> darn it didnt work :/
[00:14] <bekks> votlon: "ssh".
[00:15] <django> Can I have multiple up commands on the same interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:15] <votlon> bekks: wait what?
[00:15] <k1l_> votlon: see .xsession-errors in the home
[00:15] <bekks> !ssh | votlon
[00:15] <bekks> Excuse me, I tabfailed again :)
[00:15] <votlon> bekks: what about ssh?
[00:16] <bekks> !ssh | vice
[00:16] <vice> I'm not sure if I'm on the right course with xvnc, but I'm trying to run two of the three "headless" I guess.
[00:16] <bekks> votlon: I'm sorry, just ignore my post :)
[00:16] <bekks> vice: Then you do want ssh.
[00:16] <votlon> oh okay lawls i was like :3
[00:16] <votlon> k1l_: kk ill pastebin it for u
[00:16] <vice> I'm looking at GUI control
[00:19] <votlon> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/QZYEC8Ae
[00:19] <k1l_> votlon: who is the owner of the folders in /home/ ?
[00:20] <Roots47> can multiple keys live in your authorized_keys file?
[00:21] <votlon> k1l_: two users and each owned by there own user
[00:21] <votlon> k1l_: home is owned by root but i thought that was normal ;3
[00:21] <k1l_> and in the users home its still everything besides .gvfs is owned by the user? and inside .dbus, too?
[00:22] <k1l_> votlon: that is fine. just the user folders need to be owned by user
[00:24] <votlon> k1l_: yeah everything is owned by the users
[00:24] <votlon> .dmrc only has the i3 session inside could that matter?
[00:26] <votlon> The .ICEauthority is owned by the user in the other home directory
[00:26] <votlon> In mine its owned by root
[00:26] <votlon> y again
[00:26] <votlon> k1l_: think im gonna change that and try again
[00:27] <k1l_> votlon: yes, imho that is a "someting is owned by root so the desktop cant create the stuff it needs" issue.
[00:30] <votlon> Yeah the iceauth file was it
[00:30] <k1l_> votlon: good, thought you already chowned that back
[00:31] <k1l_> but i go sleeping now. bb
[00:31] <votlon> k1l_: thx for u help
[00:34] <jasonkuhrt> Hi, If I edit a "service" in /etc/init.d/foobar
[00:34] <jasonkuhrt> Do I need to do anything before start/stop ing it
[00:34] <jasonkuhrt> ?
[00:36] <potato_farmer> jasonkuhrt: Not sure what you mean. You should be able to just stop and start it.
[00:36] <jasonkuhrt> potato_farmer: That answers my question, thanks
[00:41] <Guest9812> I'm looking for help on Ubuntu as router
[00:41] <votlon> Guest9812: why ubuntu if i may ask?
[00:41] <Guest9812> I used Ubuntu because I'm familiar with it.
[00:42] <Guest9812> I set up a physical machine with Ubuntu 14.04 as router then ported it to a virtual machine that I'm running in virtualbox.  Everything works except that one of my computers is unable to connect to Netflix.
[00:43] <Guest9812> all other computers can connect but on that one computer, which was connected when I had a physical machine and also can connect using a different network
[00:43] <daftykins> so compare settings, adjust - job done
[00:43] <Guest9812> the one computer can't even ping netflix
[00:43] <daftykins> bad DNS
[00:44] <votlon> ^
[00:44] <daftykins> try "dig netflix.com" or whatever and see if it resolves
[00:44] <Guest9812> why would dns be bad when going through the VM router but not when going through a different physical network
[00:44] <daftykins> don't question it, just do it
[00:44] <Guest9812> i'll try that
[00:45] <votlon> lawls
[00:45] <daftykins> commands to diagnose the problem are going to help you arrive at a solution a million times faster than scratching your head and debating the meaning of life :)
[00:46] <kreig> is there a forum post on how to remove this unity?
[00:46] <Ben64> !nounity
[00:46] <Guest9812> okay, i'll give it a try
[00:46] <Ben64> hmm, should update that trigger
[00:46] <daftykins> Ben64: know someone who does it? i approached -ops with 5+ edits a bit ago and every one got ignored.
[00:46] <kreig> thank you Ben64
[00:47] <Ben64> daftykins: you can do it with !blah is <definition>
[00:47] <daftykins> i would think you have to be an authorised user for that
[00:47] <Ben64> well it goes to be reviewed iirc
[00:47] <daftykins> ah right
[00:48] <daftykins> my main one was creating !amd since they haven't been called !ati for years
[00:48] <daftykins> anywho, i'm off topic ^_^
[00:48] <votlon> Burn the people off topic at the stake!
[00:48] <Guest9812> doesn't seem to be dns because dig netflix.com returned info but i still can't ping an address for netflix or connect with that computer yet other computers on the network can connect
[00:49] <Guest9812> and no more meaning of life questions, i promise
[00:49] <daftykins> then you maybe don't have a default gateway configured correctly
[00:49] <daftykins> compare "ip route" with your other systems
[00:49] <daftykins> votlon: oh i do, i do
[00:49] <Guest9812> i can access other websites with the computer; comparing ...
[00:50] <daftykins> ok, that suggests a gateway is correct to at least let those function.
[00:50] <daftykins> are the dig outputs the same?
[00:50] <Guest9812> yes
[00:52] <votlon> Guest9812: can u ping netflix or did u say no?
[00:52] <votlon> mah page up isnt working lawls
[00:52] <votlon> more stuff to fix Kappa
[00:53] <done> thats weird, ubuntu erased my nvidia-304 and go back alone to intel graphics, needed to reinstall nvidia-304 (alright)
[00:54] <daftykins> Guest9812: if i'm honest it's tough for me to help diagnose something when i've never once used the service
[00:54] <daftykins> done: maybe after a kernel upgrade?
[00:54] <Guest9812> ip route is the same
[00:54] <votlon> Guest9812: u using firefox?
[00:54] <done> no daftykins
[00:54] <done> completely natural ?
[00:54] <daftykins> well it doesn't happen by magic! so no idea
[00:54] <done> or maybe i'm wrong, not important (i think i installed 304 yesterday :/)
[00:55] <done> (sure, magic)
[00:55] <daftykins> 304 is as old as time :D
[00:55] <votlon> daftykins: this happened to be before but it was because i wasnt usint ubuntu as a nat server
[00:55] <votlon> using*
[00:55] <done> 331 doesnt work on my 705A
[00:55] <votlon> and netflix was being blocked by OS definition by netflix's server
[00:55] <votlon> Silly netflix
[00:55] <daftykins> votlon: mmm, well given we're told other systems work and Guest9812 is definitely online talking to us, i would have to say NAT must be working
[00:56] <done> no it works very well except plymouth
[00:56] <Guest9812> I got onto netflix and deauthorized all computers
[00:56] <daftykins> yeah, boot splash is the first thing to go with nvidia
[00:56] <daftykins> got onto it from the target system?
[00:56] <done> i mean it changed from 304 to noueveau, back in propietary everythink works much better (specially the video issues)
[00:57] <Guest9812> no, got onto it from another network and another computer. I logged out of all active netflix logins.
[00:58] <Guest9812> as far as OS definition; I've logged on with Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Windows 8.1, Windows 7, and Android all on the same network with the same virtualbox ubuntu router.
[00:58] <votlon> Guest9812: can u mtr netflix.com
[00:59] <votlon> Guest9812: from the computer u want to watch netflix on assuming it a linux box
[00:59] <Guest9812> The machine that I can't connect is Linux Mint with Windows 7 in virtualbox and I can't connect either from Mint or from inside vbox.  The other OS I listed were all native to the machine (multiple computers)
[00:59] <daftykins> oh for Tuxs sake
[01:00] <daftykins> so you've been wasting our time with Mint issues this whole time?
[01:00] <daftykins> !mint
[01:00] <daftykins> go there. not supported.
[01:00] <daftykins> the clue is the channel name
[01:00] <votlon> well the router is running ubuntu correct?
[01:00] <Guest9812> I know.  The router is Ubuntu 14.04.  I'm not concerned about the other OS just trying to figure out why one computer on a network can't connect while all others can.
[01:00] <votlon> run mtr so we know if its the router dropping the packets or your computer
[01:01] <votlon> then we can carry u to the stake if its mints fault :p
[01:01] <daftykins> the others work so it's not the router, not an ubuntu issue.
[01:01] <votlon> daftykins: oh kk ill bring the torches
[01:01] <daftykins> \o/
[01:02] <Guest9812> mtr is working
[01:02] <Guest9812> I just ran Ubuntu in a VM on that machine and it can't connect either
[01:03] <daftykins> that doesn't make it relevant really
[01:03] <daftykins> especially if you're not using bridged networking
[01:04] <OerHeks> <Guest9812 how do you connect to netflix, latest chrome 40.0.2214.111  ??
[01:05] <Guest9812> my attempt to connect is with firefox under mint and chrome in the windows vm
[01:05] <votlon> Guest9812: Firefox wont work with netflix
[01:05] <votlon> Guest9812: go download chrome beta stable for best netflix expierence
[01:05] <votlon> experience
[01:05] <Guest9812> I was just trying to log in, not stream, and the address is somehow being blocked by my Ubuntu router
[01:06] <Guest9812> I've had good luck for a while with Windows VM under Linux.
[01:06] <votlon> Guest9812: Go download chrome and see if it does work
[01:07] <Guest9812> okay
[01:07] <votlon> Guest9812: My netflix was being blocked in firefox by os and wouldnt work till i used an extention
[01:07] <cf-x> Hi people
[01:08] <cf-x> Finally I can almost go bo bed, it's 2:07 AM here and my backup is still running, lame.
[01:09] <daftykins> cf-x: that's nice but off topic
[01:09] <daftykins> chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:09] <Guest9812> chrome 40.2... (I don't know if it's beta stable) is unable to load netflix, even the netflix help page - any page on www.netflix.com
[01:10] <cf-x> wow, didn't know ubuntu-offtopic would exist xD bye then :D
[01:10] <votlon> Guest9812: In virtual box how are u forwarding ur network adapter to ur vm
[01:10] <fishcooker> how to shred folder fair safe and quickly?
[01:11] <votlon> Guest9812: wait actually are u able to load any other websites?
[01:11] <votlon> Guest9812: or is it just netflix's domain
[01:12] <Guest9812> NAT
[01:12] <Guest9812> it seems to be just netflix's domain; i've tried several other websites with a normal connection
[01:13] <votlon> Guest9812: are you able to connect from your mint host to netflix?
[01:13] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[01:13] <daftykins> that's what we've been talking about the entire time
[01:13] <votlon> ight just flush the dns on ur ubuntu router then
[01:13] <Guest9812> no, neither the host nor the vm can connect when going through the router but if i connect to another network they both connect
[01:14] <votlon> Guest9812: flush the dns on ur ubuntu machine
[01:14] <OerHeks> fishcooker, this answer might be a help http://askubuntu.com/a/57573
[01:14] <PSGroup41> I am in bash shell. How do I change my current shell to csh?
[01:15] <votlon> Guest9812: *Heroic Pose* have you tried restarting the server :)
[01:15] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Run "csh". Why do you want to use csh though?
[01:15] <Guest9812> forgive me, how do i flush dns; i'm using BIND and Webmin
[01:17] <votlon> Guest9812: sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[01:17] <plasmasnake> does anybody know if it's possible to have both unity and gnome 3 installed at the same time? i remember once when i tried to have both kde (or maybe it was xfce) and unity installed, things got a little ugly
[01:18] <plasmasnake> like the themes interfering with each other and stuff
[01:18] <votlon> Guest9812: also run "rndc restart" for bind
[01:18] <Jordan_U> plasmasnake: GNOME Shell and Unity can be installed at the same time with no issues.
[01:18] <Guest9812> nscd command not found
[01:18] <plasmasnake> Jordan_U: nice, thanks!
[01:18] <Jordan_U> plasmasnake: You're welcome.
[01:19] <votlon> Guest9812: okay just use "rndc flushname netflix.com" or "rndc restart"
[01:19] <votlon> Guest9812: flushname if u dont want to get rid of all ur cache
[01:21] <Guest9812> okay; it's "rndc flush" as restart is not yet implimented
[01:21] <votlon> Guest9812: wtf .-.
[01:22] <votlon> kk install nscd then
[01:23] <votlon> And maybe debate updating ur bind server for situtations like this
[01:23] <PSGroup41> I am unable to change to a C Shell with csh. Is there other options to do it?
[01:24] <votlon> PSGroup41: chsh is the command i believe, correct me if im worng
[01:24] <votlon> wrong*
[01:24] <votlon> nvm ignore me
[01:24] <votlon> <--- nub
[01:26] <PSGroup41> chsh does not work either. Does ypchsh work? If yes, would you please inform me the syntax of using it?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Do you want to change the shell used by default when you log in / open a new terminal, or do you just want to run csh once? And again, why do you want to use csh?
[01:28] <Guest9812> still not working; did nscd restart
[01:28] <PSGroup41> I would like to run csh once. However, csh does not on the prompt.
[01:29] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: What happense when you run "csh"? What do you expect to happen?
[01:29] <PSGroup41> I am in bash shell. I would like to run some command on a c shell. Please help.
[01:29] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: We can't help if you refuse to answer our questions.
[01:30] <votlon> *boom*
[01:30] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: which command?
[01:30] <votlon> Guest9812: Did mtr ever make it to the server?
[01:30] <daftykins> PSGroup41: it's about time you tell us what you've been up to, since you've been messing with every shell under the sun for the past few days :)
[01:30] <daftykins> and seemingly not knowing what they even are
[01:31] <votlon> Guest9812: If mtr is making it to the server but ping wont, I would'nt be able to help any further soz matey
[01:31] <eddie_> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.10 but my update manager says there are no update to install
[01:32] <fishcooker> OerHeks: is it also work for ntfs partition?
[01:32] <EriC^^> eddie_: you'll need to upgrade to 14.04 first then 14.10
[01:32] <eddie_> EriC^^: Okay thanks. Is it possible to do that through the update manager?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> eddie_: First, you can't upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.10. You have to upgrade to 14.04 then upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 (or just stay with 14.04, since it is an LTS release).
[01:33] <eddie_> I think I'll just stick with 14.04. What does LTS stand for?
[01:33] <EriC^^> eddie_: yes, try to update the cache first, sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <Guest9812> okay; well thanks so much for your help. any thoughts on why it's just one computer on the network that seems to be blocked?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> !lts | eddie_
[01:33] <votlon> eddie_: Make sure you back up all ur data before you update your version "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[01:33] <PSGroup41> Sry, I did the command, echo $SHELL. The output was /bin/tcsh.
[01:34] <eddie_> right, already done ty botlon
[01:34] <eddie_> votlon*
[01:34] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: "echo $SHELL" is *not* a reliable way to tell what shell you're running.
[01:35] <PSGroup41> How do I find out which shell I am running please?
[01:35] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: type ps -p $$
[01:36] <Ben64> PSGroup41: can you explain what you're trying to accomplish? you've been here for days asking weird shell questions
[01:36] <votlon> Ben64: shellception...
[01:36] <EriC^^> the shell is collapsing
[01:37] <votlon> lol
[01:37] <EriC^^> :D
[01:37] <PSGroup41> EriC^^++: I typed the command, ps -p $$, and see CMD=csh. Does that mean I am in C Shell?
[01:37] <Ben64> PSGroup41: are you on Ubuntu 13.04
[01:38] <eddie_> Me again, the update manager is telling me that the next upgrade is 12.10. Will I have to upgrade through every version between 12.04 and 14.04?
[01:38] <Ben64> eddie_: no, you can go from 12.04 straight to 14.04
[01:39] <eddie_> Okay, can I do that through the command line?
[01:39] <PSGroup41> Ben64: no
[01:39] <Ben64> eddie_: probably, but you might need to set update manager to LTS only
[01:40] <Ben64> PSGroup41: really? you said you were 2 days ago
[01:41] <PSGroup41> Ben64: I am not in Ubuntu at this time:)
[01:41] <Jordan_U> eddie_: Do *not* upgrade to 12.10, whatever you do.
[01:42] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Then why are you asking support questions in #ubuntu?
[01:42] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChangingShells
[01:42] <EriC^^> eddie_: try sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt to lts
[01:43] <Ben64> EriC^^: ah, great. i wasn't sure where the file was
[01:43] <OerHeks> fishcooker, nope
[01:43] <daftykins> PSGroup41: you're in an ubuntu channel asking about something other than ubuntu? why are you doing that?
[01:43] <daftykins> i knew this guy was trouble
[01:44] <EriC^^> tsk tsk tsk
[01:44] <Ben64> indeed. connecting from Intel's IP range too, good thing I don't buy their CPUs...
[01:44] <daftykins> this guy is coming from intel?
[01:45] <Ben64> intel has owned 192.55.32.0 - 192.55.81.255 since 1989
[01:46] <daftykins> well, i don't make a habit of whois'ing everyone that pops in :>
[01:46] <Ben64> oh today he's from 134.134.0.0 - 134.134.255.255, which intel has owned since 1993
[01:46] <Ben64> i have a habit of keeping tabs on people i deem sketchy
[01:46] <daftykins> =]
[01:46] <daftykins> PSGroup41: that explains why you keep ducking my questions of what exactly you're doing, doesn't it? :)
[01:48] <votlon> Was PSGroup41 just trollin?
[01:48] <Ben64> so my main menu, in 14.04 has a vertical scroll thingy, pretty annoying, I have 1080 pixels of vertical space, yet it insists on needing to scroll. is there a way anyone knows how to disable that? using gnome-panel
[01:49] <nibbler> OerHeks: funny page - especially the "way to find out if you have a specific shell installed" ;-)
[01:51] <excelsiora> Ubuntu! hey hey hey! What's up? Happy weekend!! I'm trying to figure out what I should do about flash? Does Ubuntu have a recommended way to keep that up to date for 14.04? I keep getting a message in my browser (wife too) about it being out of date.
[01:51] <teward> excelsiora: chrome
[01:51] <excelsiora> :(
[01:51] <nibbler> excelsiora: the recommended thing to do about flash is to get rid of it
[01:51] <excelsiora> but I want firefox! :)
[01:51] <PSGroup41> Hello! I am on Ubuntu, I found out that on C shell, the command, source script arg, takes the arg as an empty string. This error does not occur in Linux Red Hat. Is the error documented in the Ubuntu website?
[01:52] <teward> excelsiora: Flash for Linux stopped being updated after Flash 11 - it gets *updates* but not frequently, and in fact i think support is going away in the next year or so.
[01:52] <PSGroup41> Thank you very much for any help!
[01:52] <OerHeks> excelsiora, use pepperflashplugin, as standard in chrome.
[01:52] <excelsiora> nibbler: are you the same gnibbler on SO?
[01:52] <nibbler> excelsiora: dont't think so
[01:52] <excelsiora> ok
[01:53] <excelsiora> PSGroup41: C shell is considered a bad practice to use, as I recall
[01:53] <excelsiora> teward: why would they stop supporting Linux?
[01:54] <agent_white> Because Oracle, probably.
[01:54] <Jordan_U> excelsiora: They didn't stop supporting Linux, they stopped supporting NPAPI on linux. Google supports flash plugin for linux, but only via their pepper API, which Firefox doesn't support.
[01:55] <excelsiora> I thought Oracle and Linux were buddies?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: What is your end goal?
[01:55] <bud> hey guys. is there an easy way to make my hard disks automatically mount on startup?
[01:56] <EriC^^> !fstab | bud
[01:56] <teward> excelsiora: because Adobe.
[01:56] <teward> Jordan_U: true, but they also stopped supporting the Flash standalone for Linux too...
[01:58] <derpderp> i have downloaded the latest kernel repo from ubuntu's git archive, but how can I find the code that runs the interface used when changing resolution and monitor placement?
[01:59] <execb33f> Hello, I just recently purchase two Radeon R9 270X cards.  I am having difficulty getting them to work properly.  I am using the fglrx drivers from the apt repository, however fglrx-amdcccle  wasn't showing all of my monitors no matter what.  I was also getting artifacts and Xorg would lock up completly, causing the machine to freeze.
[02:00] <PSGroup41> Jordan_U: My project partner insists that I need to provide him an official document indicating that it is an Ubuntu error. I am trying to find such a document.
[02:01] <execb33f> I heard that the proprietary driver might be better, I attempted downloading it but its in .deb format.  All of the guides refer to a .run file that I can't seem to find on AMD's website.
[02:01] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Why is csh relevant to your project at all?
[02:01] <cptbadass> howdy! quick question: i installed ubuntu on a pc, then added another hdd. ubuntu doesn't show it. what do i need to do?
[02:02] <excelsiora> I went to Software Sources in Software Center, selected Canonical Partners under Other Software, and found the update through Adobe's site, installed it (which uninstalled prior flash) and no need to even restart Firefox, flash works.
[02:02] <EriC^^> cptbadass: it doesn't show in sudo parted -l ?
[02:02] <cptbadass> let me check
[02:03] <PSGroup41> My project partner insists we use csh and if the source command does not work, I need to provide him with documentation.
[02:03] <Ben64> PSGroup41: what is the output of this command? "md5sum /etc/issue" and what version of ubuntu are you running
[02:03] <FourFire> Hello
[02:03] <FourFire> I've been struggling trying to install the Nvidia 346 driver
[02:04] <FourFire> My screen resolution is down to 600x480...
[02:04] <daftykins> FourFire: from where? downloaded?
[02:04] <excelsiora> how's gnash coming along?
[02:04] <daftykins> 346 is not in the repos
[02:04] <FourFire> How do I kill mdm permanently
[02:04] <Ben64> FourFire: how did you try to install it, why do you need 346?
[02:04] <Ben64> FourFire: also, what video card, laptop? dual gpu?
[02:04] <FourFire> please. there's terrible graphics artifacts which are covering my F1 virtual terminal session
[02:04] <PSGroup41> The same error occurs on 14.04 and 13.04.
[02:04] <vancron> I've just been setting up a share between a virtual machine and my windows host. The problem is i cant get it to allow only my sambauser, i can connect to the share with any user. It is like guest ok = yes, but it's not. security = user, force group = vboxsf create mask= 0640.. I dont know what i do wrong
[02:04] <Ben64> PSGroup41: that is not an answer to my question
[02:04] <FourFire> daftykins, yes downloaded
[02:05] <FourFire> I just need to install it, but I can't with mdm or lightdm or whatever it is unity runs on top of running
[02:05] <daftykins> FourFire: so, where do you fail installing?
[02:05] <cptbadass> nope, doesn't show it
[02:05] <FourFire> how do I Kill the process
[02:05] <Ben64> FourFire: don't install it that way
[02:05] <FourFire> it throws me an error message
[02:05] <daftykins> FourFire: yes you hit ctrl+alt+F1 to login at a TTY, then run "sudo service lightdm stop"
[02:05] <EriC^^> cptbadass: if you plug it in, does dmesg mention it?
[02:06] <FourFire> ok, that did not seem to change anything
[02:06] <FourFire> I'm logged into TTY1 but unity is still up on top of it so I can't see anything
[02:06]  * Ben64 pokes FourFire... what video card, why do you need 346, system details, go
[02:06] <cptbadass> like, hook it in while the system is on?
[02:07] <FourFire> except when I'm typing the spot I am changing becomes displays TTY1 for a split second
[02:07] <FourFire> Ben64, 960
[02:07] <EriC^^> cptbadass: can you pastebin /var/log/kern.log ?
[02:07] <flight> is there anyone here that is using genymotion with virtualbox?
[02:07] <Ben64> FourFire: that the only gpu in the system?
[02:08] <cptbadass> Let me stop playing with my one handed keyboard and type like I mean it. I admit I'm unfamiliar with linux, so would you mind a quick instruction as to doing that?
[02:08] <FourFire> I could take out that and use the intel iGPU but then the drive refuses to install
[02:08] <FourFire> driver*
[02:08] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Sorry, I lost my internet connection. If you answered my question, "Why is csh relevant to your project at all?", I did not see it.
[02:08] <EriC^^> cptbadass: cat /var/log/kern.log , paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <cptbadass> Alright, one moment
[02:09] <Ben64> FourFire: well if you're not planning on using the intel gpu at all, use this PPA and install the driver using apt-get. https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:09] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: And for the record, I very much doubt that this is an Ubuntu bug. I think that you're expecting a feature of csh (which shouldn't be used for anything but nostalgia) that is not actually guaranteed to be available in all csh implementations.
[02:09] <FourFire> Ben64, I already did this
[02:09] <flight> If someone could walk me through this error message I'm getting from terminal while trying to execute genymotion it would be much appreciated
[02:10] <flight> Error while opening log file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log: No such file or directory
[02:10] <flight> Logging activities to file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log
[02:10] <flight> Aborted (core dumped)
[02:10] <FourFire> following the Phoronix article
[02:10] <Ben64> FourFire: and?
[02:10] <FourFire> I have my current problem
[02:10] <Ben64> FourFire: well you should have lead with that, what else should we know about?
[02:10] <FourFire> I specifically blacklisted neovou whatever stuff following a tutorial
[02:11] <cptbadass> alright, done.
[02:11] <Ben64> FourFire: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[02:11] <cptbadass> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10101542/
[02:11] <bud> ok, so when I click a drive and it mounts it for me. It creates the mount point directory - then deletes it when i unmount?
[02:11] <FourFire> nnot on this machine, unfortunately, I'll try
[02:12] <bud> but when i mount it via cli, i have to mkdir the mountpoint first
[02:12] <flight> can someone please explain what this means to me::::
[02:12] <flight> Error while opening log file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log: No such file or directory
[02:12] <flight> Logging activities to file: /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log
[02:12] <flight> Aborted (core dumped)
[02:12] <FourFire> I can't see the result
[02:12] <PSGroup41> Jordan_U:My project partner insists we use csh and if the source command does not work, I need to provide him with documentation.
[02:12] <cptbadass> It's an msata ssd, not sure if that's a compatibility issue or not.
[02:12] <FourFire> there's a weird situation, it's like unity is reacting to my keypresses, but I'm also logged into TTY1
[02:12] <antimatroid> If I call "echo "hello" | at "now + 1 minutes"" at say 13:07:35 (h:m:s), at runs at 13:07:35, whereas if I call "date -d "now + 1 minutes"" then I get 13:08:35 which is 35 seconds after at runs. I'm pretty sure I can't get 'at' to recognise seconds, is there an easy way to change "date -d "now + 1 minutes"" so that when I call it at say 13:07:35 I get 13:08:00? I know I could always run the 'at' command a minute later if I wanted that to run after what I us
[02:12] <Ben64> FourFire: if you've got command line only, you can do "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"
[02:12] <FourFire> is there some way I can kill unity?
[02:13] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm stop
[02:13] <Ben64> like i saw suggested above
[02:13] <FourFire> yeah I tried that, no dice
[02:13] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Why does your partner insist that you use csh? That seems frankly indefensibly wrong.
[02:13] <Ben64> FourFire: maybe start up in text mode...
[02:13] <Ben64> !text | FourFire
[02:13] <flight> anyone?
[02:14] <Ben64> flight: first, stop spamming that error... use a pastebin. secondly, be patient
[02:14] <EriC^^> cptbadass: is it a usb drive?
[02:14] <FourFire> ok so I input that command Ben64 is there somewhere I can see the result
[02:14] <Ben64> FourFire: it should return a url
[02:14] <FourFire> ok I'll reboot
[02:15] <flight> sorry first time user
[02:15] <cptbadass> No, it should be registered as a sata drive. The slot itself is sata II
[02:15] <PSGroup41> Jordan_U: It is for our project. He said that if it cannot be done, we need to provide official documents on it.
[02:15] <daftykins> FourFire: i told you how to stop unity, you must be doing it wrong.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Have you told him that you think using csh for anything made within the last 2 decades is insane?
[02:16] <Ben64> PSGroup41: what is the output of this command? "md5sum /etc/issue" and what version of ubuntu are you running
[02:16] <EriC^^> cptbadass: goes gparted see it?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> flight: I have not sen the ap, but " No such file or directory " I would find out the why -> ls -al /home/flight/.Genymobile/genymotion.log , ls -al /home/flight/.Genymobile . see where the path fails ?
[02:17] <FourFire> how do I force grub to pause when booting into Ubuntu, is that a boot setting: prioritize legacy over UEFI ?
[02:17] <cptbadass> I can check. Sorry for not checking these things sooner.
[02:17] <PSGroup41> Ben64: is the command, md5sum /etc/issue, a safe command?
[02:17] <Ben64> yep
[02:17] <EriC^^> cptbadass: no problem
[02:17] <PSGroup41> I do not want to crash the system.
[02:17] <Ben64> if it does, you've got some huge problems
[02:17] <FourFire> ok got into tty1 without problems
[02:18] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Yes, it doesn't change any state in any way (it just prints a number).
[02:18] <FourFire> attempting to install the Nvidia driver now
[02:18] <Ben64> FourFire: don't!
[02:18] <linuxuz3r> 6:18:13 PM linuxuz3r  hi how do i include /usr/local/lib to library path
[02:18] <cptbadass> Just checked gParted, and no, nothing.
[02:18] <FourFire> ok, what should I do instead?
[02:19] <flight> Bashing-om: Ok I'll try that and see what it turns up
[02:19] <EriC^^> cptbadass: does the BIOS see it?
[02:19] <Ben64> FourFire: use the xorg-edgers ppa like i've said already
[02:19] <FourFire> you mean I should install it again?
[02:19] <cptbadass> I'll have to check that too. I'll be logging in the meantime.
[02:19] <Ben64> FourFire: or pastebin what i asked... the output of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[02:20] <Panico> hi guys
[02:20] <PSGroup41> Ben64: it gives a number
[02:20] <Ben64> and the number is....
[02:20] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Please post that number here.
[02:20] <FourFire> it returns "use netcat"
[02:21] <vancron> it's totally impossible to get samba to allow only my user created with smbpasswd. I can access my shared folder from any user on my windows machine wich is not what i want
[02:21] <FourFire> when I just grep nvidia it doesn't return anything
[02:21] <Ben64> FourFire: then seems like you either A) didn't add the ppa properly or B) didn't install said driver from said PPA
[02:21] <FourFire> I think the guide I was following told me to purge everything following a certain pattern
[02:22] <PSGroup41> What does the number mean? Can I check it by myself?
[02:22] <Ben64> FourFire: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-346
[02:22] <bazhang> whats the number PSGroup41
[02:22] <Ben64> FourFire: if that doesn't work, we add the PPA
[02:22] <FourFire> Ben64, ok, I'll readd the PPA, what do I input precisely?
[02:22] <cptbadass> Okay, back. Yes, the BIOS does recognise the drive: samsung msata 500.1gb
[02:22] <FourFire> ok, I'll try that
[02:22] <bud> i need to add some mounts to fstab and the howto's are confusing me. mainly the options, etc. i just want 'mount /dev /mountpoint' to run. where do i find the specific options i need to define in fstab?
[02:23] <bazhang> sudo blkid bud
[02:23] <FourFire> yeah it can't find that
[02:23] <Ben64> FourFire: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[02:24] <bud> bazhang, ah, that helps!
[02:24] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41:
[02:24] <bazhang> PSGroup41, have you given us that number yet
[02:24] <cptbadass> Correction: gparted DOES see the hdd. Didn't realize there was a dropdown menu to the side for other drives.
[02:25] <EriC^^> cptbadass: ok, great
[02:25] <cptbadass> So sorry.  Do I just need to format it?
[02:25] <EriC^^> yeah, probably the filesystem is corrupted or something
[02:25] <EriC^^> repartition it
[02:25] <FourFire> ok, upgrade && update done, no changes apparently
[02:25] <daftykins> given we keep getting selected information we probably have to label PSGroup41 as a non-ubuntu user who's been hoodwinking us this entire time :(
[02:25] <mushir> I can't enter recovery mode in ubuntu 14.04 .. I reach the options but I can't navigate options I get strange black screen
[02:26] <Ben64> FourFire: ok, now you should be able to install the nvidia package you tried before
[02:26] <bud> and i have to create the mountpoints manually right? it's not fstabs job to do that.
[02:26] <Ben64> bud: correct
[02:26] <FourFire> nope it doesn't see it
[02:26] <bud> ty
[02:26] <Ben64> FourFire: what version of ubuntu
[02:26] <cptbadass> what should the partition table type be if I want it to work with windows 7/8.1?
[02:26] <EriC^^> are you using uefi?
[02:26] <Ben64> you probably want msdos
[02:26] <FourFire> "E: unable to locate package ..."
[02:27] <cptbadass> didn't know there was anything more to partitioning than size, and fat/ntsc
[02:27] <FourFire> 14.04, but upgraded to kernel 3.18.6
[02:27] <Ben64> FourFire: oh that could be a problem
[02:27] <EriC^^> cptbadass: if you're using uefi, you'll want a gpt partition table
[02:27] <FourFire> should I boot with an older version?
[02:27] <daftykins> FourFire: you silly billy
[02:28] <FourFire> I just wanted to e updated D:
[02:28] <Ben64> FourFire: you might not be able to get nvidia going at all with that unless you want to run the nvidia installer every time manually
[02:28] <bud> anything wrong with mounting stuff to /media vs /mnt?
[02:28] <FourFire> hmm
[02:28] <FourFire> can I downgrade then?
[02:29] <Ben64> depends how you upgraded
[02:29] <FourFire> IIRC theres something really horrible about attempting to downgrade
[02:29] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: I think I know why you're seeing what you think is a difference between Ubuntu and Red Hat here (it's *not* an Ubuntu bug), but frankly I'm not going to help you without at least a little bit more information on why you're doing somthing so insane than you've given.
[02:29] <FourFire> Ben64, the phoronix kernel upgrade article
[02:29] <FourFire> I just did that
[02:29] <Ben64> i don't know what that entails
[02:29] <FourFire> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?px=MTY1NTU&page=news_item
[02:30] <flight> I apologize to everyone for my spamming earlier. Upon further investigation I discovered my problem was in the fact that I had the wrong version of the program downloaded
[02:30] <cptbadass> Thank you very much, Eric.  Seems like everything is in working order now.
[02:31] <joba13> hola!!!
[02:31] <EriC^^> cptbadass: you're welcome
[02:31] <Ben64> FourFire: as long as you have old kernels installed, you can just remove the packages you installed for that
[02:31] <joba13> hello i'm new in Ubuntu
[02:31] <FourFire> ok
[02:32] <mushir> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem running my PC in recovery mode.
[02:32] <mushir> I can get to the recovery mode screen in the grub menu but when I try to navigate through the options using up or down, I get this black screen with weird text in the middle of my screen so I simply can't navigate through the options.
[02:32] <FourFire> how do I do that?
[02:32] <Ben64> dpkg -r <name of package>
[02:32] <PSGroup41> Ben64: If I provide the number, will it cause security issue to my system?
[02:32] <Ben64> PSGroup41: no
[02:32] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: No, it will not.
[02:32] <PSGroup41> Can someone get into my system if I provide such a number?
[02:32] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: No.
[02:33] <Ben64> i'm done with this guy
[02:33] <bazhang> what version of redhat PSGroup41
[02:33] <Guest96896> .
[02:34] <PSGroup41> It is Ubuntu 13.04. It works well on Red Hat Linux.
[02:35] <Bashing-om> flight: Good work . Versions matter !
[02:35] <FourFire> now a whole coloum of tidles (~) happened
[02:35] <FourFire> I'll get back to this tomorrow, too tired now
[02:36] <bazhang> PSGroup41, what works well on redhat. this is ubuntu support only and that version is eol: not supported at all
[02:36] <bud> in fstab, using the UUID can be used in place of /dev/xyz, correct?
[02:36] <Ben64> bud: yep, and its more reliable
[02:36] <linuxuz3r> how do i know if a program is 64bit or 32 bit
[02:37] <PSGroup41> Sry, I found the number in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/236272
[02:37] <bazhang> if you are on that version PSGroup41 then upgrade immediately for support here
[02:37] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: file "/path/to/program"
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> linuxuz3r: using 'file' should tell you
[02:37] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | PSGroup41
[02:37] <bazhang> see the very last link PSGroup41 and upgrade pronto
[02:37] <bud> Ben64, so "UUID=7d07465a-76ab-4316-93a1-93320ccb94fa /media/Storage2 ext2 auto 0 0" is formatted correctly then?
[02:38] <mushir> any hlp ??
[02:38] <PSGroup41> It fails on Ubuntu 14.04, too
[02:38] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: If you're worried about security, running an EOL release of any OS should terrify you.
[02:38] <Ben64> bud: looks good. make sure the case matches on the mountpoint though
[02:39] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Why does your partner insist on csh? Have you told them that using csh for anything written within the last two decades is insane?
[02:39] <EriC^^> bud: any reason you're not using defaults instead of auto?
[02:39] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <-- PSGroup41
[02:39] <bud> EriC^^, i just read that auto makes it automatically mount at boot, that's what i'm trying to accomplish.
[02:40] <PSGroup41> bazhang: I see the same problem in Ubuntu 14.04
[02:40] <bazhang> PSGroup41, 13.04 is simply not supported, upgrade for support here
[02:40] <daftykins> PSGroup41: you have to run a supported distribution to get support in here.
[02:41] <bud> EriC^^, or is adding it to fstab going to make it automatically mount anyway
[02:41] <Ben64> PSGroup41: well you've been lying the past hour+ about what version you're running, how can anyone trust you now
[02:41] <mushir> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem running my PC in recovery mode.
[02:41] <mushir> I can get to the recovery mode screen in the grub menu but when I try to navigate through the options using up or down, I get this black screen with weird text in the middle of my screen so I simply can't navigate through the options.
[02:41] <EriC^^> bud: defaults includes auto and other options that work well with ext file systems, depending on what you want exactly
[02:41] <bazhang> selective truthiness Ben64
[02:42] <Jordan_U> mushir: Try adding "GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console" to /etc/default/grub, then run "sudo update-grub".
[02:42] <daftykins> lying for the past several days in fact
[02:42] <Ben64> Feb 06 2015 17:37:58 <Ben64>	PSGroup41: are you on Ubuntu 13.04   \n   Feb 06 2015 17:39:28 <PSGroup41>	Ben64: no
[02:42] <bud> EriC^^, these are just basic, simple, ext2 drives for storate, i'll use defaults instead :) thx
[02:42] <PSGroup41> The errors failed in both 13.04 and 14.04
[02:42] <bazhang> my versions sounds nicer
[02:42] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Why does your partner insist on csh? Have you told them that using csh for anything written within the last two decades is insane?
[02:42] <EriC^^> bud: np
[02:43] <PSGroup41> Ben64: yes
[02:43] <bazhang> PSGroup41, its not supported. please stop asking here for support on the eol version. upgrade with help of the link I have given you two times now
[02:43] <PSGroup41> bazhang: I see the same problem in 14.04
[02:44] <bazhang> PSGroup41, no need to repeat that. it's not supported, and repeating that wont change it
[02:44] <PSGroup41> I have two machine, one is 13.04 and another is 14.04. Both machine fail on the same problem.
[02:44] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: what's the problem exactly?
[02:44] <bazhang> ssecurity
[02:45] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: I know exactly why you're having trouble passing positional parameters to source with csh. If you give me a little more information on why you insist on using a historical relic, and some hope that you're communicating the insanity of this to your partner, I will tell you.
[02:48] <PSGroup41> Jordan_Uand Eric: Thank you very much for your help! I am on Ubuntu, I found out that on C shell, the command, source script arg, takes the arg as an empty string. This error does not occur in Linux Red Hat. Is the error documented in the Ubuntu website?
/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 35: /etc/default/grub: GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console: not found
[02:49] <bud> can i like, execute fstab to test it without rebooting?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> mushir: You need to not include the quotation marks.
[02:49] <Ben64> bud: sudo mount -a
[02:49] <Bashing-om> bud: Terminal command -> mount -a <- .
[02:50] <bud> hmm...
[02:50] <bud> one of them didn't make it
[02:51] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Why does your partner insist on csh? Have you told them that using csh for anything written within the last two decades is insane?
[02:52] <PSGroup41> Jordan_U: I did told him but he needs official documents.
[02:53] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Great, I'm glad you've communicated that to him. Can you give me any more insight into why he insists on csh despite this?
[02:57] <PSGroup41> Jordan_U: We are working on a project. The project uses the command, source script arg. It does not work. He needs my to provide him Ubuntu website saying that.
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks
[02:58] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: is it a school project?
[02:58] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: The command "source script arg" will work great in bash, or /bin/sh (which on Ubuntu is implemented with dash). Why aren't you using either of those shells (which are much more widely available than csh, and have the features you apparently need).
[02:58] <Jordan_U> ?
[02:59] <pavlos> PSGroup41, the command source works ... create a file boo with contents echo $1 make it +x then, source boo hello will print hello
[02:59] <goodluck> hi,genius,how to get the lastest created file in a directory
[02:59] <goodluck> i mean through a bash script
[02:59] <mushir> Jordan_u: didn't work .. as I said I have no problem accessing recovery mode form the grub menu my problem is I can't use any of recovery mode options
[02:59] <PSGroup41> Eric and Jordan_U: it is a school project. The command does not need to work. I just need to tell him the website indicating that it has this problem in Ubuntu.
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> mushir, a quick google search will give many answers. Here is one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1015678/linux-most-recent-file-in-a-directory
[03:00] <Jordan_U> mushir: Could you possibly make a video of this and post it to youtube or similar?
[03:00] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: tell him csh doesn't work that way with it's source command, you need to set argv=("arg1", "arg2") then source script.csh and it's as if you did source script.csh arg1 arg2
[03:01] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Ahh, good to know that it's a school project. Is the project relating to ancient UNIX history?
[03:01] <pragmaticenigma> oops... didn't mean to take mushir on that
[03:01] <pragmaticenigma> sorry
[03:01] <mushir> pragmaticenigma: I posted my problem in ASK UBUNTU but no answers!
[03:01] <PSGroup41> pavlos: if boo is a boo.csh, it does not work.
[03:01] <pragmaticenigma> goodluck, , a quick google search will give many answers. Here is one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1015678/linux-most-recent-file-in-a-directory
[03:01] <bootninja_linux> howdy folks.  any alsa gurus around that might be able to help me get sound working through spdif?
[03:02] <pragmaticenigma> bootninja_linux, why aren't you using PulseAudio?
[03:02] <bootninja_linux> good question
[03:03] <bootninja_linux> I'm running Kodibuntu and It doesn't seem to have been installed by default
[03:03] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Can you guarantee me that whatever script you're writing isn't intended for anything other than homework? I would hate to be a part of enabling a newly written csh script to be foisted on poor unsuspecting users.
[03:03] <bootninja_linux> although I'm wondering if that will solve the issue, since doesn't pulseaudio work off alsa?
[03:03] <mushir> Jordan_U: I can send you a photo of the screen I get when I try to choose one of recovery options
[03:03] <pragmaticenigma> bootninja_linux, we can't support other distrobutions in this channel
[03:03] <daftykins> bootninja_linux: kodibuntu uses pulse as default.
[03:03] <PSGroup41> Jordan_U: Thanks, I just need to tell my project partner that the command, source abc.csh arg, does not work on Ubuntu.
[03:03] <pavlos> PSGroup41, you're wrong ... I created a file boo.csh first line #!/bin/csh second line echo $1 .... try source boo.csh hello
[03:04] <EriC^^> pavlos: type csh first to get a csh shell, it's cause you're using bash's built-in source
[03:04] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: It does work on Ubuntu though, it just doesn't work in csh.
[03:04] <daftykins> bootninja_linux: if you are configuring Kodi to play audio, you should be doing so from *within* Kodi system settings - and probably discussing it in #kodi too.
[03:04] <pragmaticenigma> bootninja_linux, PulseAudio is more of a wrapper around ALSA, making it more friendly to other applications
[03:04] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Can you guarantee me that whatever script you're writing isn't intended for anything other than homework? I would hate to be a part of enabling a newly written csh script to be foisted on poor unsuspecting users.
[03:04] <bootninja_linux> sorry pragmaticenigma  didn't figure it was really a distro centric question
[03:04] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: you have to type set argv=("bla") , then type source script.csh , and you can use the arg in it
[03:05] <daftykins> Jordan_U: perhaps at this point it should be considered off topic?
[03:05] <mushir> Jordan_U: here is the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/566471/problem-accessing-recovery-mode-in-ubuntu-14-04
[03:05] <PSGroup41> pavlos: I am running the command on C shell.
[03:05] <Ben64> daftykins: i'd agree. its for ubuntu 13.04, its insane, ip coming from intel owned block, this is where your i7 dollars go to apparently :|
[03:06] <pavlos> EriC^^, I did csh first, got % prompt ... source ./boo.csh hello gives me hello
[03:06] <coffee-> hi ubuntu works great on dual boot and was enjoying it, but i need ip cam security software that doesn't cost a fortune?
[03:06] <pragmaticenigma> bootninja_linux, even if it's part of the ubuntu family, they can have significant configuration differences. It's best to find the group supporting that spin rather than a general room like this.
[03:06] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Indeed, since this is a question that is hardly related to Ubuntu at all (however much you might think it is), let's please move it to ##linux or another channel.
[03:07] <pragmaticenigma> coffee-, check out motion
[03:07] <PSGroup41> EriC^^: Yes, set argv=("bla") works but the command, source script arg, does not.
[03:07] <coffee-> hmm wonder if the software library on ubuntu has webcam software that works with ip cams
[03:07] <EriC^^> pavlos: *shrug* doesn't work here
[03:07] <coffee-> motion?
[03:07] <coffee-> ok will do thank :D
[03:07] <EriC^^> PSGroup41: cause source in csh is different than bash's source
[03:08] <coffee-> Thanks*
[03:08] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: pavlos: Shhh, you're both doing the right thing, and I know exactly why you're getting different results. It's related to why this isn't really an Ubuntu question. Once I have assurance from PSGroup41 I'll spill the beans :)
[03:08] <pavlos> lol
[03:09] <EriC^^> :D
[03:09] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: Please join ##Linux.
[03:10] <daftykins> aww so we don't get to hear the thrilling conclusion :(
[03:11] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I'll post the secret here when I'm done in ##linux :)
[03:11] <daftykins> \o/
[03:11] <daftykins> ty sir
[03:11] <EriC^^> :P
[03:11] <PSGroup41> Eric: The command, source script arg works  in Linux Red Hat.
[03:12] <mrbond006> WHATTT UPPPP!!!
[03:12] <Jordan_U> PSGroup41: This will be the last time I ask before removing you from the channel. This is offtopic for #ubuntu, please join ##linux.
[03:12] <PSGroup41> Eric and pavlos: The command, source script arg, does not work on Ubuntu.
[03:12] <mrbond006> so deluge has stopped working for me?
[03:12] <shadaloo> hi my keyboard shortcuts with alt arent working
[03:12] <elky> PSGroup41: please listen to Jordan_U and go to ##linux
[03:12] <Ben64> mrbond006: that is not a question we can answer
[03:12] <mrbond006> fuck you Ben64
[03:12] <mrbond006> there are a 1000 people here
[03:13] <shadaloo> LOL
[03:13] <mrbond006> and someone has to know
[03:13] <Ben64> that attitude and language will not get you far here
[03:13] <Jordan_U> mrbond006: Please watch your language and attitude here.
[03:13] <mrbond006> its a goddamned Ubuntu IRC!!!!!!
[03:13] <mrbond006> GODDAMNED
[03:13] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy mrbond006
[03:13] <mrbond006> How much more could I ask for?!
[03:13] <mrbond006> Jeesh
[03:14] <shadaloo> hi my keyboard shortcuts with alt arent working
[03:14] <shadaloo> any ideas
[03:14] <mrbond006> hi my keyboard shortcuts with alt arent working
[03:14] <shadaloo> -.-
[03:14] <NegativeFlare> mrbond006: You might want to leave, or suffer a ban.
[03:14] <mrbond006> Fine :(
[03:14] <pragmaticenigma> shadaloo, can you please be more specific?
[03:14] <Ben64> NegativeFlare: impressive
[03:15] <NegativeFlare> Ben64: I don't put up with garbage
[03:15] <shadaloo> pragmaticenigma: I have alt+t launch terminal
[03:15] <shadaloo> and it is not working
 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNYIe9zlMQ&feature=youtu.be
[03:15] <pragmaticenigma> shadaloo, have you installed any new programs lately? are you running any programs in the background right now? Does it work if you reboot and right after you login again?
[03:16] <shadaloo> nah
[03:16] <shadaloo> im using ubuntu+1 xD
[03:16] <shadaloo> just figured I'd try here first
[03:16] <mrbond006> Hello call ubuntu call center? I have a problem with my instance of deluge. Can you help me?
[03:16] <Ben64> mushir: whoa thats strange
[03:16] <mrbond006> You have a 1000 person strong channel someone has to know
[03:16] <mrbond006> before i go apeshit
[03:16] <NegativeFlare> shadaloo: There's a tool, I forget the name of it. That tells you what keyboard events that X is receiving. Sadly, I can't recall the name of it.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: pavlos: daftykins: There are two common implementations of "csh", berkely-csh (Ubuntu grabs the source for this from OpenBSD) and tcsh. tcsh supports positional arguments to source, historical and current OpenBSD csh does not.
[03:17] <EriC^^> xev
[03:17] <Ben64> NegativeFlare: shadaloo: xev
[03:17] <shadaloo> mrbond006: use a better client
[03:17] <NegativeFlare> ah!
[03:17] <NegativeFlare> Ben64: thanks man
[03:17] <NegativeFlare> shadaloo: Try to use xev, it'll tell you if alt is actually being pressed or not
[03:17] <shadaloo> NegativeFlare: what do you recommend I do with this
 : yes very strange but I can't simply reinstall Ubuntu and lose my packages,updates and customization
[03:18] <pragmaticenigma> shadaloo, NegativeFlare is suggesting an application to make sure your computer is responding to the Alt key being pressed.
[03:18] <NegativeFlare> mhm
[03:18] <Ben64> mushir: i haven't really been following along with your problem. what's been going on with your system?
[03:18] <pavlos> shadaloo, ctrl-alt t pops a term for me ... 14.04
[03:19] <shadaloo> pavlos: i think that's the default
[03:19] <Ben64> shadaloo: it is indeed
[03:19] <shadaloo> I open terms often enough to where one less keystroke is worth it
[03:19] <daftykins> Jordan_U: interesting, thanks :>
[03:19] <Jordan_U> daftykins: You're welcome.
[03:19] <pragmaticenigma> neat pavlos ... thanks for that tip!
[03:19] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: oh i see
[03:19] <shadaloo> pragmaticenigma: alt is working
[03:19] <mushir> Ben64: I can get to the recovery mode screen in the grub menu but when I try to navigate through the options using up or down, I get this black screen with weird text in the middle of my screen so I simply can't navigate through the options.
[03:19] <Ben64> shadaloo: does ctrl+alt+t still open a terminal
[03:19] <Ben64> mushir: yeah i got that, but why are you trying to get to the recovery mode in the first place
[03:20] <shadaloo> Ben64: when I rebind to ctrl+alt+t yes it does work again
[03:21] <mushir> Ben64: I think it is wise to make sure that recovery mode is working just in case of any problem
[03:21] <shadaloo> when I hold alt I see the options listed in the top panel
[03:21] <shadaloo> but that's not how it used to behave
[03:21] <Ben64> shadaloo: that is standard behavior
[03:21] <Jordan_U> mushir: Interesting, Can you boot normally and try some programs that use ncurses from the normally booted system?
[03:22] <bud> how do i force a user to use a certain window manager? when i remote desktop my server it's using the default WM and i want it to use xfce
[03:22] <Ben64> shadaloo: wait you're on vivid?
[03:23] <shadaloo> Ben64: yes
[03:23] <Ben64> gotta ask that in #ubuntu+1 then
[03:23] <shadaloo> no one ever answers there -.-
[03:23] <Ben64> tis the risk of running unreleased ubuntus
 I'm not sure is I get your question but yes my system is ok and I can boot normally
[03:26] <mushir> Jordan_U: I can boot normally plz can you tell me how to test programs that use ncurses ?!
[03:27] <Jordan_U> mushir: I'm trying to think of a good example that comes with Ubuntu and would test a similar menu to the recovery mode one. "tasksel" would be good, but doesn't come with Ubuntu by default (you can install it though).
[03:28] <Squarism> Hey.. any looong time ubuntu users here? Im wondering if you've seen big improvements to ubuntu Desktop during the years? Some issues strikes me as : wow, why is that still so! Like the need for the "unsupported" ccsm manager. Hardware support - i get the feeling there must be support for the hardware in the distribution or it wont play. I think Windows update handles hardware nice - with repos keeping
[03:28] <Squarism> drivers and the search functionality.
[03:29] <NegativeFlare> Squarism: man, don't even get me started. I started using Ubuntu back in dapper drake. I've seen TONS of improvements.
[03:29] <daftykins> Squarism: anyone who knows how to use Windows properly, does not trust drivers from WU. similarly, anyone who knows Ubuntu is very select about drivers.
[03:29] <Adrienne> Squarism: I would say that yes, it has improved significantly.
[03:30] <daftykins> Squarism: also, running AMD graphics? that's an unwise move :>
[03:30] <Ben64> Squarism: there is no need for ccsm, hardware support exceeds windows' by a huge margin
[03:30] <mushir> Jordan_U: tasksel: debconf failed to run
[03:31] <Jordan_U> mushir: sudo tasksel
[03:31] <Squarism> Ben64, i cannot very well bind / unbind the overcrowded assigned keyboard shortcuts wo ccsm manager. Many which conflict with popular software
[03:32] <Ben64> Squarism: you don't need to use compiz at all
[03:32] <Squarism> thanks for your perspective!
[03:32] <Squarism> What should i use instead?
[03:33] <Ben64> gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, whatever else
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Squarism: KDE is much better with options to change keyboard shortcuts. I think that GNOME Shell may even be better with that particular aspect than Unity.
[03:33] <pavlos> mushir, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[03:33] <mushir> Jordan_U: when I select any of servers from the list to install I get back to terminal
[03:33] <Squarism> I thought unity was a move in the right direction? Away from X11?
[03:34] <bud> what do i do when i get 'no such file' when trying to start/stop a service listed in /init.d ?
[03:34] <shadaloo> is there another place to bind shortcuts aside from "Keyboard"
[03:34] <bud> specifically chrome-remote-desktop
[03:34] <shadaloo> like compiz or something?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Squarism: Mir, which is used by "Unity 8", is a replacement for X11. But neither are finished or used in Ubuntu by default yet.
[03:35] <Ben64> shadaloo: you should really be asking in #ubuntu+1 ...
[03:35] <mushir> pavlos: no problem I think with programs that use ncurses
[03:35] <pavlos> ok
[03:36] <shadaloo> Ben64: no one is there yo
[03:36] <Jordan_U> mushir: Try in a tty.
[03:36] <Ben64> shadaloo: then don't use vivid if you want support
[03:37] <shadaloo> Ben64: I don't want other's help bad enough to use old code xD
[03:37] <littlegirl> Hey there, if I do ls -l /dev/tty I find 98 files. What are those for?
[03:37] <Ben64> shadaloo: spoiler- you're already using old code.
[03:37] <mushir> Jordan_U : no problem I think with programs that use ncurses .. any ideas ??
[03:37] <shadaloo> Ben64: to clarify
[03:38] <shadaloo> Old linux kernal code
[03:38] <Ben64> !latest | shadaloo
[03:38] <shadaloo> !sru
[03:38] <littlegirl> Hey there, if I do ls -l /dev/tty I find 98 files. What are those for?
[03:40] <bud> littlegirl, try http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8514735/what-is-special-about-dev-tty
[03:40] <Jordan_U> mushir: Did you try logging into a tty (press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a tty, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to a GUI) and running tasksel?
[03:41] <bud> what do i do when i get 'no such file' when trying to start/stop a service listed in /init.d ? specifically chrome-remote-desktop
[03:41] <littlegirl> Thanks, bud. (:
[03:41] <daftykins> bud: perhaps the name is wrong, check service status to see a full list of actual ones
[03:42] <Jordan_U> bud: What guide are you trying to follow? You should generally use "service" rather than running scripts from /etc/init.d/ directly, but I don't know what chrome-remote-desktop even is.
[03:43] <bud> Jordan_U, trying to make chrome-remote-desktop use xfce instead of unity via https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/-7iefS2yN20
[03:43] <nicomachus> hey guys, I got an error booting and I'm not sure if it's a bad kernel, my HDD, or my mobo...
[03:43] <nicomachus> imgur.com/CDNimzK
[03:45] <bud> Jordan_U, chrome remote desktop a remote desktop server. i'll just reboot the system since i can't seem to stop then restart the service lol
[03:45] <OnceMe> hell
[03:45] <OnceMe> odoes ImageViewer have slideshow option
[03:45] <OnceMe> and how>?\
[03:45] <bud> Jordan_U, it says 'chrome-remote-desktop' plain as day in init.d but when i try and run it it says it's not found. *shrug*
[03:46] <EriC^^> nicomachus: probably a bad kernel, hold shift to get grub and choose an older one
[03:47] <bud> Jordan_U, nevermind, apparently i'm a complete idiot
[03:47] <Jordan_U> bud: What is the exact command you're running?
[03:48] <bud> Jordan_U, i was spelling it wrong. sorry.
[03:50] <Eray> Hello, I have a problem about default file permissions. When I download a file from internet, have permission -rw-r-----. Because of this Apache give 403 error for images. When I add an image, I should use `chmod` for each time. Is there a way for getting permission from folder
[03:50] <jamie_> Does anyone have problem with firefox and live streaming
[03:51] <mushir> Jordan_U : no problem I think with programs that use ncurses .. any ideas ??
[03:55] <EriC^^> Eray: what do you want the downloaded files to have as permissions?
[03:56] <Jordan_U> mushir: What happens if you run /lib/recovery-mode/recovery-menu in a gnome-terminal window? At a tty?
[03:57] <Eray> EriC^^: because Apache. When I downloaded an image(for example a background), I need type "chmod". Without this Apache give 403 Forbidden
[03:57] <Jordan_U> mushir: Note, to quit recovery-menu simply select the "resume" option.
[03:59] <EriC^^> Eray: ok, if you're downloading the file somewhere, then type umask <opposite bits of what you want>, then start firefox, whatever you download will have those permissions, like umask 000 is as if you did chmod 777 after you downloaded the file
[03:59] <pavlos> Eray, what are the perms of the dir where images go?
[03:59] <jamie_> Im not sure if this is a computer bug or a linux build specific but, But live stream does not play correctly on fire fox
[04:00] <EriC^^> Eray: so open a terminal, type umask 000, then type firefox in the terminal
[04:00] <Eray> pavlos: /assets -> 777
[04:00] <Eray> EriC^^: Thank you, i'm trying... :)
[04:02] <Eray> EriC^^: same permission, 403 :(
[04:03] <daftykins> jamie_: you're going to have to be more specific
[04:03] <Plasmastar> FFFF
[04:03] <jamie_> daftykins: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1130608
[04:04] <Eray> assets/: drwxrwxrwx assets/newly-dowloaded.png: -rw-r------
[04:04] <jamie_> daftykins: that sould explain it for the most part
[04:04] <toastee1> I have a really weird issue... just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. my audio chipset is an Intel H61 and I'm using the HDMI output. Audio works fine the *second* time I test the speakers in System Settings, but not the first. Audio works fine in XBMC, but nowhere else on the system (Chrome, Firefox, etc.).. I've tried a bunch of different solutions like reinstalling alsa, killing pulseaudio, deleting pulseaudio config...can't figure it out. Any ideas?
[04:04] <daftykins> jamie_: considered taking it to mozilla's channels then? since it's not necessarily ubuntu at fault?
[04:04] <jamie_> daftykins: i am here from mozilla to ask... lol it might just be ubuntu
[04:05] <daftykins> jamie_: feel free to confirm cross-distro
[04:05] <daftykins> but a browser is a browser
[04:05] <EriC^^> Eray: you need it to be what perms?
[04:05] <Eray> EriC^^: 775
[04:05] <jamie_> daftykins: the firefox browser on ubuntu is ubuntu specific
[04:06] <daftykins> jamie_: only through some minor aesthetic extensions, disable them then test again. bet it won't change.
[04:06] <pavlos> Eray, make your umask 002
[04:06] <EriC^^> pavlos: apparently umask won't allow files to be executable upon creation
[04:06] <mac__> hy all.. my keyboard in ubuntu is constantly changin language inputs... helo wanted
[04:06] <mac__> hy all.. my keyboard in ubuntu is constantly changin language inputs... help wanted
[04:07] <jamie_> daftykins: okay, i was asking because this is not happening on windows according to another, and i cant seem to find anyone else currenrly that is on linux to see if its happening
[04:07] <Eray> EriC^^: Executable is not necessary, I think read is enough for Apache, maybe I'm wrong sorry
[04:09] <jamie_> daftykins: thanks anyway
[04:09] <daftykins> jamie_: well, the key variable there might be that flash is v16 on Windows whilst it's dead on Linux
[04:09] <EriC^^> Eray: try as pavlos suggested
[04:09] <daftykins> jamie_: could always hop in a few other distros channels and hope a kind soul will test whatever video this happens on?
[04:09] <jamie_> its any live stream
[04:10] <jamie_> but thanks
[04:10] <Jordan_U> jamie_: I'll try to test, but I'm currently using a more than decade old machine, so it's hard to tell if it would work anyway :)
[04:10] <jamie_> thanks
[04:10] <Eray> pavlos: When I type umask only its return 0002(002), I typed `umask 002` and tried download file from internet. Same permissions; -rw-r------
[04:11] <jahjah> yo
[04:11] <yoda> I know freebsd has mount_hfs in it but is there a package out there for linux that allows one to read/write/mount HFS/HFS+ i.e mac based files systems on a linux machine. I know I used mount_ntfs and ntfs tools for linux to work with windows based file systems
[04:11] <jahjah> yo im using x11vnc (as server) and bvnc (client, on android) to control youtube on my tv so i can watch from my bed without getting up.  but bvnc always wants to *try* to display flash's output, which its not fast enough for, and inevitably crashes it.  can i get bvnc to quit trying to display flash?  i can see what's going on via the tv.  i just need it to be a remote mouse and keyboard
[04:12] <Jordan_U> jamie_: It may be an issue with the older version of flash used by Firefox (but not Chrome/Chromium) on linux.
[04:12] <pavlos> Eray, stange since I did the same thing and my perm is 664
[04:13] <pavlos> *strange
[04:13] <jahjah> well on the phone when it tries to display the video, it skips alot of frames.  which is ok cause im watching it on the tv where it does not
[04:14] <mac__> hy all.. my keyboard in ubuntu is constantly changin language inputs... help wanted
[04:15] <jamie_> sorry to the person who was helping me, had to switch from my computer to my flame
[04:15] <antdedyet> hey, is there a laptop in the $300 range with a good ubuntu config?
[04:15] <Eray> pavlos: ahh, my fail.... :) I started browser again from terminal and now permissions is: -rw-rw-r-- . Thank you
[04:15] <pavlos> great!
[04:16] <Eray> pavlos: my last question :) is that umask `permanent` or i need type always ?
[04:16] <jahjah> i got this dell mini 9 for $100.  great at linux.  ironically sux @winblows (which it actually comes with)
[04:16] <jamie_> antdedyet: just about any other than a Mac or chrome book
[04:17] <jamie_> and Mac you might even be able to I s
[04:17] <jamie_> I don't mess with Macs
[04:17] <pavlos> Eray, I think you can set it up in your /etc/profile
[04:17] <antdedyet> ya, i was hoping to buy one with ubuntu pre-installed, but the market is pretty rare so i have collected. guess I will search the web.
[04:18] <antdedyet> how is Canonical doing? I haven't been in the news since 2010 or 2009
[04:18] <Eray> OK, thank you for all help, pavlos and EriC^^ . Have a nice day ^^
[04:18] <pavlos> Eray, see pam_umask(8)
[04:18] <Jordan_U> jamie_: I'm just getting a loop of commercials followed by a few seconds of "We'll be right back" screen at the moment.
[04:18] <yoda> so is there something for linux that allows one to read/write/mount ...etc mac file system format
[04:19] <jamie_> widows the circle pop up
[04:19] <degva> Hi guys, just executed this: sudo mkfs.vfat -I -n 'USB JL' /dev/sdb to a second partition by mistake which was ntfs and now I cannot access it
[04:19] <jahjah> u talking like drivers?  check forums mainly.  compile a list of laptops u want in ur price range and preference, then research them as far as driver difficulties and stuff
[04:19] <jahjah> really just drivers i think
[04:19] <jamie_> jordan_U: does a circle for buffering pop up randomly?
[04:20] <degva> Hope I can restore my files at least
[04:20] <Jordan_U> jamie_: I've gotten past the commercials now, and it does seem that I can reproduce the problem. And yes, I see a circle for buffering.
[04:20] <jahjah> usually i get secondhand computers and laptops and its like something wont work on original installation, but i look it up and find someone has already solved it.
[04:20] <siac> How to set the background of the panel in KDE? I don't like transparency in the panel
[04:21] <jahjah> oh.  trying to install ubuntu on a mac?  dunno.  once installed debian on an old macbook.  was cool until i tried to forcibly upgrade the hard drive.  but broke the whole frame trying to get to it
[04:21] <yoda> well sort of yes is there a file system driver for linux that can read and write ..mount  mac file systems like mount_hfs ...etc that bsd unix  has
[04:21] <jamie_> jordan_U: :) thanks, much abliged, I have been trying to finish this bug report all day, thanks
[04:22] <jahjah> i hate apple laptops anyway.  they try to make it impossible to upgrade them
[04:22] <kudu_> Just wondering… why the hell is BIND pre-installed on Ubuntu Server?
[04:22] <Jordan_U> jamie_: You're welcome. I'm trying to see if it works in Chrome or not.
[04:22] <daftykins> jahjah: #ubuntu-offtopic for more of the chat aspect, support only here :)
[04:22] <jamie_> jordan_U: by any chance do you know what version you are on and the channel?
[04:23] <jahjah> anyway im goin back to youtube.  guess ill just keep resetting the vnc over and over and over...
[04:24] <jamie_> jordan_U: this is much appricated
[04:25] <Jordan_U> jamie_: Mozilla Firefox 35.0.1, from Ubuntu 14.04 .
[04:26] <jamie_> okay that works, you are on 35.0.1 probably central channel
[04:26] <Jordan_U> jamie_: In Chrome that site claims that I don't have flash installed (which is incorrect). Doesn't seem like a great website. How would I confirm the "channel"?
[04:27] <jamie_> jordan_U: when you go into about Firefox from help tab it should say under the version
[04:28] <jamie_> jordan_U: the funny thing about this website is that it is one is the official Philly weather channels.. Lil
[04:28] <jamie_> lol
[04:31] <hehekid1> hello?
[04:31] <hehekid1> nobody talks much do they
[04:31] <jamie_> we do
[04:31] <antdedyet> yep
[04:31] <Jordan_U> jamie_: http://i.imgur.com/PX9Vi2Y.png
[04:33] <jamie_> jordan_U: .... duh... now I feel dumb... I just stated that there is a Firefox for ubuny
[04:33] <jamie_> and then forgot.. you are on the Ubuntu channel...
[04:35] <jamie_> jordan_U: thanks for the help, greatly appriciated
[04:36] <Jordan_U> jamie_: You're welcome. Thank you for working on the bug :)
[04:37] <some_goliard> Hello. I am on Ubuntu 10.04 on an x86 desktop PC. I want to upgrade to version 12.04 and 14.04, will apt-get dist-upgrade work ?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> some_goliard, yes
[04:37] <cfhowlett> some_goliard, wait, IF it's a server, yes
[04:37] <daftykins> some_goliard: it would make far more sense to backup and clean install.
[04:38] <jamie_> jordan_U: my goal is to makesure that it works just as well if not better on Ubuntu as it dose on windows
[04:38] <cfhowlett> some_goliard, so: end of life upgrade is one option: 10.04 > 12.04 OR .torrent the 12.04 iso and clean install
[04:38] <Jordan_U> some_goliard: cfhowlett: NO. "apt-get dist-upgrade" is not used for upgrading between Ubuntu releases.
[04:38] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | some_goliard
[04:38] <some_goliard> I am on desktop. I know it says only server for 10.04 in the topic
[04:38] <cfhowlett> Jordan_U, doh!!!! right.  dang.  gotta coffee.  thanks.  some_goliard sorry for giving bad advice
[04:38] <some_goliard> I lost my 12.04 CD and the machine was very old already so I though v10 was the right start
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | some_goliard,
[04:40] <dark_apple> how can make mouase work?
[04:40] <meccooll> i added myself to a group but groups command still doesn't list it
[04:41] <dark_apple> mouase work on xp not work on ubuntu
[04:41] <Jordan_U> some_goliard: Going with older linux distributions for older hardware is almost never the right approach. That's the Windows/OSX approach. For GNU/Linux you should just look for lighter versions of up to date releases, like Lubuntu or Xubuntu. I can almost guarantee that the Xubuntu 14.04 laptop I'm using to talk to you right now is older and lower spec than what you're using :)
[04:41] <jamie_> jordan_U: this is gonna be added to the bug report, thanks again for the help im off for now to get back to firefox   p
[04:41] <Jordan_U> jamie_: You're welcome :)
[04:42] <dark_apple> why cant mouase work on ubuntu? :'(
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !mouse | dark_apple
[04:42] <some_goliard> Nevermind everyone, the update manage finally caught up to the existence of 12.04 and is now prompting me for an OS upgrade
[04:43] <dark_apple> i will get virus on link? please not install virus
[04:43] <dark_apple> omg, i'm so drunk! i don't even have a mouse! hehe
[04:43] <cfhowlett> dark_apple, come back when you are sober so we don't waste peoples time.
[04:44] <dark_apple> um... ok
[04:44] <some_goliard> and also, I know this is not the best approach for I am not operating in the best conditions right now. Normally I would have a 12.04 cd
[04:44] <dark_apple> bye all!
[04:44] <pavlos> meccooll, pop another term and try groups
[04:44] <cfhowlett> some_goliard, understood.  Jordan_U advised you to look at lubuntu/xubuntu for your older hardware.  I tend to agree.
[04:44] <Jordan_U> some_goliard: If you were going to install rather than upgrading I would definitely just install Ubuntu 14.04 and not bother with 12.04.
[04:45] <meccooll> 9107hm
[04:45] <some_goliard> 14.04 has not quite passed the test yet as far as I am concerned
[04:46] <some_goliard> although I'm using it on my laptop right now
[04:46] <daftykins> some_goliard: well do be sure to phone Canonical when it does, i'm sure they'll be thrilled :)
[04:47] <some_goliard> there is a reason there are many supported LTS versions at the same time
[04:51] <consolidated> my 14.04 install is now depressed...
[04:51] <consolidated> feels like it's failed
[04:51] <Jordan_U> some_goliard: Yes. People who tend to want to run LTS releases also tend to want to be able to plan their upgrades long in advance. If there weren't large overlap between support for LTS releases then users would only have a small window to upgrade in.
[04:57] <some_goliard> While I'm here, I seem to have disabled the Alt+Tab feature. I'm in Ubuntu 14.04, under Gnome-classics
[05:00] <meccooll> pavlos, "meccooll, pop another term and try groups" huh
[05:05] <pavlos> meccooll, start another terminal and then type 'groups' in response to ... i added myself to a group but groups command still doesn't list it
[05:05] <ianorlin> pavlos, have you logged out and logged back in?
[05:06] <pavlos> ianorlin, no
[05:06] <ianorlin> you need to do that for group changes to happen
[05:20] <retroispresto> How do I edit the .bash_history or .history so It doesn't keep any record of the edits (including time)
[05:21] <nick___> when I run "file bzImage" I get the following message: "bzImage: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 3.10.18 (tom@i7) #2 SMP Fri Feb 6 00:14:45 EST 2015, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x4, Normal VGA" .. what does the #2 before SMP mean?
[05:23] <NotErik2> Qhatip
[05:23] <NotErik2> Whattuop
[05:23] <NotErik2> In drumk
[05:24] <NotErik2> Fuck
[05:24] <daftykins> NotErik2: take it elsewhere then please.
[05:24] <daftykins> no drunks in #ubuntu :)
[05:24] <NotErik2> Okay mommy
[05:24] <retroispresto> o.o
[05:24] <NotErik2> Whatcha all wanna talk about?
[05:25] <NotErik2> Best porno?
[05:25] <daftykins> NotErik2: nothing. chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic. BETTER people than you have tried, beleve me.
[05:25] <daftykins> believe too
[05:25] <NotErik2> Fine ill go there im new to irc
[05:25] <daftykins> wise move
[05:26] <NotErik2> Im lonely i just want someone to talk with
[05:26] <daftykins> bye bye
[05:26] <NotErik2> Fuck you
[05:26] <daftykins> well now, that's not polite
[05:26] <daftykins> yay \o/
[05:28] <some_goliard> bye.
[05:37] <mushir> Still looking for solution and still no use : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNYIe9zlMQ&feature=youtu.be
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> mushir: did you try failsafeX or fix broken packages?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | mushir
[05:40] <nuget102> Hey, can anyone help me a bit? :p
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: if you ask your issue mate
[05:41] <nuget102> My girlfriend recently updated her linux (ubuntu of course) up to 14.04 and now the bluetooth isn't working. I've looked in the bios and it's enabled there but in the bluetooth settings on linux it doesn't give us the option to turn it on.
[05:41] <nuget102> I've been searching around but I haven't really found anything that fixes it so far.
[05:42] <mushir> lotuspsychje : my problem is navigating through recovery mode options the screen turns black and freezes!
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: additional drivers sections show anything usefull?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> mushir: ubuntu version?
[05:42] <mushir> 14.04 LLTS
[05:42] <nuget102> Nope, noting in additional drivers that looks like could be the cause. Let me check again though.
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | nuget102
[05:43] <nuget102> Thanks, I'll look through that real fast.
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> mushir: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[05:43] <mushir> intel GMA 3000
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> mushir: did you install ubuntu with internet/updates enabled?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: doublecheck also dmesg and syslog logs, for bluetooth usefull errors
[05:45] <mushir> no I believe I didn't .. but I never had this problem for 4 months
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> mushir: recently updated?
[05:46] <mushir> yes
[05:47] <nuget102> So uh, it says with dell laptops I need to go through windows and install drivers on windows....?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> mushir: graphics driver might have corrupted system
[05:47] <nuget102> For it to work with linux...?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: i never tested this myself, but if the page says so..
[05:47] <mushir> lotuspsychje : so you are telling me I have to reinstall??
[05:48] <nuget102> Well, that's a problem.. Guess I'll have to live without bluetooth...
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> mushir: well to be sure wich driver check sudo lshw -C video first
[05:48] <nuget102> I'll still try following what rest of the page says to do, but the problem is I don't have windows... xD
[05:48] <nuget102> Well, my girlfriend doesn't.
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: thats a good thing :p
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: i would concentrate on your logs, and see if anything usefull shows there
[05:50] <nuget102> Yea, I'm trying to follow that installation guide but uh...
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> mushir: this is what i would do, reinstall 14.04 fresh with internet/updates enabled and compare graphics drivers from the one now
[05:50] <nuget102> I've hit a wall.. It's not showing my bluetooth device :P
[05:50] <nuget102> Oh woops, I was looking at 10.04...
[05:51] <mushir> *-display
[05:51] <mushir>        description: VGA compatible controller
[05:51] <mushir>        product: 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:51] <mushir>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[05:51] <mushir>        physical id: 2
[05:51] <mushir>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: did you also check your startup items for bluetooth to start?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> mushir: check the lines behind driver=
[05:51] <nuget102> I actually don't know how to look at startup items.
[05:52] <nuget102> It's been about a year since I last used linux, my girlfriend's been using it more than me...
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: there'a an icon for it startup items
[05:52] <nuget102> blueman applet?
[05:52] <mushir> resources: irq:42 memory:d0000000-d00fffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:1c20(size=8)
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: paste this in your terminal to see full startup items list: sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> mushir: what does lshw -C video say after line driver=
[05:54] <nuget102> loutuspsychje: That brought up nothing
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> nuget102: no not the blueman, your dash icon left corner up, then search for startup items icon
[05:54] <nuget102> Wait oh
[05:54] <nuget102> It did sorry :P
[05:54] <mushir>  driver=i915 latency=0
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> mushir: ok, i would try a fresh 14.04 reinstall
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> mushir: maybe your system has leftovers from previous ubuntu?
[05:55] <dingus1> what desktop is he using?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> dingus1: unity, 14.04
[05:55] <mushir> lotuspsychje : I really don't want to reinstall as I made a lot of customizations and updates
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> mushir: if recoverymode cant help you out...
[05:56] <dingus1> the paste this in a terminal equals zero output for me.
[05:56] <dingus1> I am running LXDE and it does not have a menu for startup?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> mushir: try that fix broken packages option in recoverymode
[05:58] <dingus1> oops, I am running ubuntu 14.10
[05:58] <dingus1> it is kinda different.
[05:58] <mushir> lotuspsychje : perhaps you didn't get me ! this my problem man... i cna't use ANY options in revovery mode
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> mushir: if you cant boot into recovery options anymore, i would go for reinstall
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> mushir: can you access a terminal from recovery?
[06:00] <mushir> no
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> mushir: then try a nomodeset maybe
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | mushir
[06:01] <mushir> ubottu : I will check and see
[06:01] <daftykins> hehe :>
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:02] <dingus1> I love ubottu.
[06:09] <divBy0> hey, im trying to set up shortcuts so applications run from the search menu and i dont have to run from terminal. someone pointed this out to me, but its for gnome and im on unity. suggestions?
[06:09] <divBy0> https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html
[06:10] <MuffinMedic> Is there a way to do a grep search for distinct?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> divBy0: not really what you ask, but there's a handy classicmenu-indicator for unity
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | divBy0
[06:13] <divBy0> :/
[06:14] <avis> how do i change folder colors in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[06:14] <avis> gnome-icon-theme no longer works for that
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !themes | avis
[06:15] <ravi> Hi, anybody know which is the best ftp?
[06:15] <divBy0> avis: i use an installed theme wit unity tweak tool
[06:16] <divBy0> avis: then you can extract the .gresource files and edit individual colors or just load folder packs
[06:16] <divBy0> ravi: my favorite has always been filezilla
[06:16] <neoark> what is syntax for adding addtional ipv6?
[06:17] <ravi> thanks divBy0
[06:17] <divBy0> !filezilla | ravi
[06:17] <neoark> i tried up /sbin/ip -6 addr add but doesn't bring up ipv6
[06:17] <divBy0> welcome ravi
[06:22] <AndroUser> Hello all, this is a test, am i visible here?
[06:23] <SchrodingersScat> AndroUser: received
[06:23] <AndroUser> Thank you SchrodingerScat
[06:24] <daftykins> use #test in future
[06:26] <SchrodingersScat> !test
[06:29] <usr0> Guys is this possible to forward a port through proxy-connection?
[06:29] <daftykins> a proxy is typically for HTTP traffic
[06:30] <daftykins> ports are forwarded over VPNs, not proxies
[06:31] <usr0> daftykins: I've heard that SOCKS is able to work with any type of traffic
[06:31] <daftykins> if so, you could've done it by now in the time it's taken to discuss it :)
[06:33] <SchrodingersScat> usr0: is 'reverse tunnel' something like what you want?
[06:33] <SchrodingersScat> !ssh
[06:34] <usr0> SchrodingersScat: well, maybe :-). I'll try it.
[06:36] <SchrodingersScat> usr0: not sure what you're actually trying to do.
[06:41] <usr0> SchrodingersScat: i have two machines with different default gateways. On the first machine I have a program. For example torrent client. But it's default gateway has grey IP thus no one can establish connection to this machine from the Internet
[06:42] <usr0> So I use the second machine with white IP. I forwarded a port to the first machine, but it doesn't work because of different default gateway
[06:43] <daftykins> you should probably be in ##networking for that one
[06:44] <usr0> As far as I understand, other computers try to connect to the 1st machine through it's default gateway but not through the second's one.
[06:45] <django> usr0: assuming your routes are correctly set up, you should be able to use iptables to forward it. If I understood your case scenario.
[06:46] <usr0> Yes, I use iptables
[06:53] <Qwertie> Hi
[06:58] <freeroute> !search steam
[06:58] <freeroute> !search precise steam
[06:59] <freeroute> -_-
[06:59] <freeroute> so there's no steam for precise?
[07:05] <Deep6> hey guys, is this the support channel or snappy as well?
[07:05] <daftykins> nah
[07:05] <daftykins> think it has its' own
[07:06] <Vyom> Deep6: Just support.. no fun... for fun goto #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:08] <Deep6> daftykins: do you know it?
[07:08] <Deep6> or can anyone here point me to a channel for it, can't do a cli setup of my wireless on snappy
[07:09] <daftykins> i'd have said it if i do
[07:09] <daftykins> !alis
[07:09] <daftykins> try this
[07:09] <Flannel> Deep6: Try #snappy  There's 64 people there, so it doesn't look dead!
[07:10] <glogic> Unless they're all idling. :)
[07:11] <Qwertie> How do I find the key for home folder encryption?
[07:11] <Deep6>  /join #snappy
[07:11] <Deep6> oops
[07:21] <divBy0> im running into some backup errors with deja dup. they appear to be simple permissions issues but are they safe to change
[07:21] <divBy0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10104961/
[07:26] <billyJoe> kali
[07:26] <billyJoe> linux rules
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !kali | billyJoe
[07:31] <knoppix> hola
[07:37] <kudu_> I'm trying to run deluged; the service says it starts, but the status says it isn't running
[07:38] <cfhowlett> kudu_, start from command line, observe errors
[07:39] <jayjo> Im reading grep docs, how do I search an entire directory for a string?
[07:39] <jayjo> i keep geting "is a directory"
[07:39] <jayjo> -r didn't work
[07:39] <jayjo> it just spit a whole bunch out
[07:39] <jayjo> sorry
[07:40] <kudu_> cfhowlett: there are now
[07:40] <agent_white> jayjo: `grep -rnw /path/to/some/dir -e "yourstring"`
[07:40] <kudu_> *none
[07:40] <kudu_> `deluged` runs fine from the proper user
[07:59] <Dat> where can I get the apt deb for ubuntu ?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Dat, ubuntu is composed of hundreds of .debs ... clarify.
[08:13] <Dat> where can I download the apt deb from for you ubunntu?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> Dat, sudo apt-get install aptitude
[08:14] <Dat> apt-get no such command
[08:14] <cfhowlett> dat apt-get INSTALL
[08:15] <Dat> apt-get no such command
[08:16] <mach20x> What application would I need to create and manage a mesh network across a multitude of devices securely?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> mach20x, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server          ?  if no answer here, that is
[08:16] <mach20x> to install not create, but you know it's been on my mind
[08:16] <mach20x> ok
[08:17] <Dat> so no locate to the apt or apt-get deb?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Dat, lsb_release -a
[08:18] <Dat> lsb_release: Command not found.
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Dat, you are not using ubuntu
[08:19] <Dat> i am
[08:19] <Dat> I use 12.04
[08:19] <Dat> 32bit
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !info apt | dat
[08:29] <divBy0> any recommendations for best free cloud storage with most space?
[08:30] <Dat> hrmm
[08:30] <cfhowlett> divBy0, DIY = owncloud
[08:30] <Dat> i think I will just reinstall the system
[08:32] <mach20x> what is the apt-get command for divBy0?
[08:34] <divBy0> cfhowlett: thanks. i think last time you recommended it but it wasn't make sense to me what you were saying... this looks really good ill check it out
[08:35] <cfhowlett> divBy0, sorry I was unclear.  wait 1 --- I'll see if there's a wiki.  for reference: DIY means "do it yourself"
[08:36] <divBy0> cfhowlett: oh ok thanks
[08:36] <cfhowlett> divBy0, www.owncloud.org
[08:51] <mach20x> whats the best app on ubuntu for communication with my android device? it is not recognizing it as being connected in the USB interface.
[08:52] <stangeland> My machines are running really slow and i am suspecting it is because of memory is full. When i run free -m i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10105939/  so 156MB free.....So there is still something left...but i still think thats the problem....is there any way to see how much time is spent on swapping memory?
[08:55] <MrElendig> stangeland: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[08:55] <MrElendig> stangeland: you are looking at the wrong number
[08:56] <MrElendig> you have 13451MiB free
[08:56] <MrElendig> I wish ubuntu would update its util-linux already, the new one have a less confusing format
[08:57] <glogic> stangeland: Consider also your desktop environment. Heavier (prettier ones with effects) will use more resources and contribute to perceived slowdown.
[08:58] <stangeland> glogic, i dont terminal only. its a server
[08:58] <Tzunamii> heh
[08:58] <agent_white> mach20x: Personally, I found most ways connecting it to be too annoying and just installed SSHDroid on my android so I could just ssh into it :)
[08:59] <glogic> stangeland: then you can safely ignore my comment. :D
[08:59] <stangeland> MrElendig, mmm ok what is the 156 mb then?
[08:59] <MrElendig> stangeland: free as in not used for anything
[08:59] <MrElendig> stangeland: read the link :p
[09:00] <jishjish> hi all, I want to move a family member to linux. My only issue is a program called family tree maker 6 for windows. I can't work out a linux program that would be able to read files for that. Can anyone recommend a genealogy program for linux whis is easy to use?
[09:00] <mach20x> agent_white: A good idea as any I suppose
[09:00] <MrElendig> a UML editor would work, but be less fancy
[09:01] <Flannel> jishjish: gramps https://gramps-project.org/
[09:01] <stangeland> MrElendig, hmm i see...i wonder why its so insanely slow then
[09:02] <MrElendig> else google says eg http://en.ancestris.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:02] <MrElendig> stangeland: iotop, htop, atop and so on
[09:02] <ErC2> hi
[09:02] <MrElendig> stangeland: define "slow" btw
[09:03] <stangeland> MrElendig, slow as in the processes running on it takes forever to finish
[09:03] <agent_white> mach20x: Yeah I just got annoyed tinkering with udev rules, getting the device to use MTP, etc.  There may be other options out there, but the SSHDroid route is simple and works :)
[09:04] <ErC2> I want to ask something about font named 'Technic'. It seem that Ubuntu cant show the font . here the link for the font .
[09:04] <MrElendig> mach20x: cifs
[09:04] <ErC2> Any suggestion from people here ?
[09:04] <MrElendig> mach20x: if you just want file transfer
[09:04] <MrElendig> mach20x: or bt
[09:04] <mach20x> MTP seems to work fine I'm trying to make a key sync though
[09:04] <ErC2> sorry here the link http://www.azfonts.net/load_font/1196841855_technic.html
[09:05] <mach20x> MTP doesn't quite cut the mustard, as I can't get to the storage I need for this transaction
[09:07] <mach20x> I'm thinking I will have to use ADB, but I'm not sure of the CLI command I need to use to get it to interface
[09:11] <ErC2> Anybody ?
[09:11] <lug205> bonjour
[09:12] <zabra> szia
[09:12] <corp002hu> hy, I have a little problem. I do not have sound in may laptop. Here running lubuntu, 32 bit. in the alsamixer all option is max. anybody idea?
[09:13] <corp002hu> sorry my bad english, im a hungaryan
[09:13] <agent_white> ErC2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Manually
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !hungarian | corp002hu
[09:15] <jishjish> thanks MrElendig and Flannel for suggesting gramps and ancestris. I will try those out.
[09:15] <corp002hu> I try, but no one reply me
[09:17] <cfhowlett> mach20x, android-tools-adb
[09:21] <ch4rl3y> hi
[09:22] <ErC2> I have installed the Font but it still appear as rectangle . Here the snapshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/dku8gz1p10sfhi7/Font.jpg?dl=0
[09:30] <ErC2> is it only at my ubuntu or someone's ubuntu cant show the font too ?
[09:31] <idundidit> ErC2, I searched for your font on the net, interestingly I found a website which displays it in all squares like your charmap.
[09:31] <idundidit> http://font-db.com/font/technic/55217
[09:32] <idundidit> ErC2, several sites do http://fontsgeek.com/fonts/Technic-Regular
[09:33] <jishjish> one other thing is stopping me moving a family member from windows to ubuntu. They use telstra bigpond email on windows. I don't know if I should tell them just to A) forget that email and setup a webmail account like Google. Or if there are some instructions somewhere so I could create a gmail account and get Gmail to pull the emails from bigpond.
[09:33] <jishjish>  (only problem with option B) is when I did this for hotmail it suddenly stopped working one day. Anyone have any ideas on the best way to approach this?
[09:34] <cfhowlett> jishjish, ubuntu + virtualbox + windows + windows apps = win
[09:34] <byte> moin
[09:34] <idundidit> cfhowlett, that's unnecessary complications for someone who just wants a working computer
[09:35] <cfhowlett> idundidit, feel free to provide the alternative
[09:35] <jishjish> cfhowlett: I would prefer to just be using ubuntu, but yes I am aware that is an option.
[09:35] <idundidit> I would try, but I've never even heard of telstra bigpond email before.
[09:35] <jishjish> maybe telling them to scrap their current email which is non webmail is the easiest, then I can set them up a Gmail on ubuntu or a chromebook.
[09:36] <idundidit> Or maybe Windows is more suited for them? What's the situation for migrating anyways?
[09:36] <jishjish> I guess I can call telstra, though I've never found them to be very technical so I don't know if they could help.
[09:37] <jishjish> well they are wanting a new computer and I feel once something like an ubuntu or a chromebook is setup they won't have to worry about windows and viruses, and they only really use it for 1) photos, 2) web browsing 3) genealogy
[09:39] <jishjish> I feel like using linux will A) use less resources and B) the laptop can be smaller and lighter for them and C) there will be less they can stuff up amd D) linux doesn't stuff up over time like windows n registry.
[09:40] <jishjish> idundidit: Thoughts? Do you agree?
[09:40] <idundidit> Yes, if it's cost efficient and can help their productivity.
[09:41] <idundidit> If it's a hassle/big learning curve, or slows them down, then not necessarily.
[09:41] <idundidit> There's always a learning curve when migrating from Windows or OSX to a Linux based system.
[09:42] <jishjish> This is true I guess I can try it and see how easily they pick it up.
[09:42] <cfhowlett> idundidit, true when migrating  from ANY OS to a different OS
[09:42] <idundidit> For personal use I would always advocate the migration, but when setting it up for someone else it's kind of a tricky situation. Very dependent on the person themselves.
[09:44] <idundidit> jishjish, try getting a bigpond account working in Thunderbird or Evolution?
[09:44] <idundidit> Supposedly someone had it working as recently as 06-10-2014 http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Bigpond-Email-Inc-Windows-Live/Sending-mail-from-Thunderbird-no-longer-works/td-p/309591
[09:45] <jishjish> idundidit: That's a great Idea!! Thanks :)  I always have the same problem, if it;s for someone else it's so much harder. I think if I can show them how this linux or other OS way works it would be better than just telling them about it.
[09:45] <idundidit> jishjish, create them an active live USB and let them try it for a week. See how they feel about it. Best possible scenario IMO.
[09:46] <YasserGersy> t
[09:46] <YasserGersy> list
[09:46] <YasserGersy> ;)
[09:47] <jishjish> idundidit: Live USB is a great Idea. I've only ever had success using stock live-cd though, never created my own with like thunderbird etc on it.
[09:48] <idundidit> jishjish, there's a feature that lets you save all of your modifications to a live USB. I want to say unetbootin supported it, but I'm not 100% sure.
[09:49] <jishjish> ooo this feature sounds great, does it work with most distributions, i.e. ubuntu or is it only for certain ones?
[09:49] <idundidit> All.
[09:49] <idundidit> It's called Persistence I believe.
[09:50] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[09:50] <idundidit> ^^
[09:53] <idundidit> If you have several USB drives you could also let them test a couple different distros. I would suggest a few different desktops, KDE seems to be the easiest for new users to migrate to. Or something like Cinnamon.
[09:53] <Ilhami>  I have finally decided that I am going to remove all Microsoft products from my laptop. :) I need the most out ouf the box ready dist for web development. What can you recommend?
[09:53] <jishjish> oooo Thanks idundidit cfhowlett
[09:53] <idundidit> Ilhami, Gimp, Inkscape, Gedit.
[09:53] <cfhowlett> jishjish, happy2help
[09:53] <idundidit> no problem jishjish
[09:53] <Ilhami> idundidit, what?
[09:54] <Ilhami> I wanted a dist. You are recommending software
[09:54] <Ilhami> lol
[09:54] <Ilhami> I mean applications*
[09:54] <idundidit> Oh, my bad
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, um ... ubuntu?
[09:54] <Ilhami> Yeah but I don't want Unity.
[09:54] <idundidit> Ilhami, https://spins.fedoraproject.org/design/
[09:55] <jishjish> Ilhami: most distro come with a text editor and browser? what other things would you personally want? - I ask because I wan't to get into web development and user experience design particularly.
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, ubuntustudio ... graphic design
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, you *could* add that to your present ubuntu with sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-design
[09:56] <Ilhami> cfhowlett, I am considering Ubuntu seriously.
[09:56] <idundidit> I prefer Fedora myself, but I started out on Ubuntu. So either are great.
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, fedora design spin is also an interesting alternative
[09:57] <Ilhami> I am going to erase my disk and start all over :)
[09:57] <idundidit> Gnome 3 is really great for productivity. Easy to switch between multiple workspaces, lots of screen space.
[09:58] <Ilhami> Yes. I want Gnome 3
[09:58] <Ilhami> I miss it.
[09:58] <dns53> you know it is just an apt-get away
[09:58] <Ilhami> dns53, :) yeah I just love it man.. but I need to get rid of this Windows 8.1.. I just have a lot of stuff on it I need to backup first
[09:58] <Ilhami> hehe
[09:59] <idundidit> Ilhami, back it up as a virtual device and then run it in virtualbox?
[10:00] <Ilhami> you mean I should back windows up in a virtual device and run in virtualbox later?
[10:00] <jishjish> idundidit: that sounds really cool, how on earth do you do that?
[10:00] <bitnumus> Hi, how do you remove the "system problem detected" popup in ubuntu? i have a log of the issue from syslog, but can't find any "fix" so just want to stop the bloody popup!
[10:00] <idundidit> Yes. There's tools to do it
[10:01] <Ilhami> idundidit, show us
[10:01] <idundidit> With imaging programs, let me find one
[10:01] <jishjish> i think dd actually can create a complete image of windows.
[10:02] <jishjish> you could just copy it onto a spare hdd and plug it in if you need it ever.
[10:02] <dns53> yes, dd will image a hard disk and you can boot it in a vm
[10:02] <Ilhami> dd is a linux tool right?
[10:02] <dns53> not the best use of space (vm's can sparsely create an image)
[10:03] <dns53> yes, dd is a tool that will copy byte for byte a hard disk from start to finish
[10:03] <Ilhami> dns53, so can I do that from a VM?
[10:03] <Ilhami> Because right now my host OS is windows
[10:03] <idundidit> VMware vCenter Converter is what I used.
[10:03] <idundidit> "VMware provides a free utility called VMware vCenter Converter for physical to virtual machine conversions. It has the ability to create a VMware Disk image of the entire system, including installed drives, local drives, configured hardware and software components, installed applications and more."
[10:04] <Ilhami> :) yeah you go pay for their products :)
[10:04] <Ilhami> send me the license key later
[10:04] <idundidit> I did that from windows, and then converted it to a virtualbox machine
[10:04] <jishjish> idundidit: oh nice. Anyone know if it's possible to say work in a virtual machine and configure an OS, and then move it to a physical machine?
[10:05] <Ilhami> oh it's free.
[10:05] <idundidit> jishjish, yes, you can do that with a ghosting program
[10:05] <idundidit> You can get a lot of driver errors and stuff though. Unless you test it thoroughly.
[10:05] <idundidit> At least when I used to ghost Windows clones back in the day
[10:06] <jishjish> idundidit: oh ok, from what I understand there are tools to convert physical to virtual, but not many if ay to convert virtual to put on a physical machine
[10:06] <idundidit> School districts and other large companies do that when they want all of their new computers set up identically.
[10:06] <dns53> you could use clonezilla to copy a hard disk
[10:06] <Ilhami> stop confusing me guys.
[10:06] <Ilhami> just mention one tool
[10:06] <Ilhami> and I will use that
[10:06] <idundidit> Ilhami, vmware
[10:07] <Ilhami> so vmware can take an image of my host os
[10:07] <idundidit> yes, the vcenter converter tool
[10:07] <Ilhami> and convert it into a virtual disk file
[10:07] <idundidit> At least it works on Windows.
[10:07] <Ilhami> ok cool.
[10:07] <idundidit> On Linux I've never tried.
[10:07] <idundidit> VMware also runs on Linux though, so you can use your virtualized host inside of Linux.
[10:07] <idundidit> And it's free
[10:08] <idundidit> Not Free and Open Source, but free as in doesn't cost $
[10:08] <Ilhami> VmWare is not free.
[10:08] <idundidit> Yes it is
[10:08] <dns53> vmware server is, vmware desktop is expensice
[10:08] <Ilhami> only few of their products are
[10:08] <dns53> expensive
[10:08] <Ilhami> let me use clonezilla.
[10:09] <Ilhami> I am not even sure if virtualbox can run vmware disks
[10:09] <idundidit> vmware player is free. They just do a good job at hiding it on their website
[10:09] <idundidit> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/7_0
[10:09] <dns53> it can, and there are ways of converting between formats
[10:10] <Ilhami> dns53, also without corrupting the disk?
[10:10] <Ilhami> I hope so.
[10:10] <idundidit> Make a backup, or stick with VMWare player if you don't have enough space
[10:10] <jishjish> dns53: I've not been able to successfully convert between formats I'd love to hear what you used.
[10:10] <dns53> Ilhami yes, the disk format is known so you can convert a vmware disk to a virtualbox, qemu or other disk format
[10:10] <idundidit> it works on Linux, and is free
[10:11] <Ilhami> so let me take one step at a time. I will my most important files on onedrive or dropbox just in case.
[10:11] <Ilhami> I will store*
[10:14] <idundidit> Ilhami, which web design tools do you currently use on Windows?
[10:14] <Ilhami> I dont use web design tools. I use text editors like Sublime
[10:14] <idundidit> :O Not Notepad++?
[10:14] <idundidit> Blasphemy!
[10:14] <Ilhami> no!
[10:14] <Ilhami> definitely not notepad++
[10:14] <jishjish> Ilhami: do yo use any other tools in addition to text editor?
[10:15] <jishjish> * and browser?
[10:15] <Ilhami> composer :P
[10:15] <Ilhami> but thats for php
[10:15] <idundidit> No photoshop? Fireworks? Illustrator?
[10:15] <Ilhami> nope.
[10:15] <Ilhami> I am not a designer.
[10:15] <Ilhami> I use gimp sometimes.
[10:16] <Ilhami> and Inkscape
[10:16] <agent_white> Using dd inside a VM... sounds... troublesome. I could be wayyy off, but ehhh.
[10:16] <idundidit> <3 Inkscape
[10:16] <dreaded> +1 for Sublime
[10:16] <Ilhami> and vim sometimes.
[10:16] <Ilhami> :)
[10:16] <idundidit> vim is nice
[10:16] <idundidit> I hate emacs
[10:16] <Ilhami> :D
[10:16] <agent_white> I love vim.
[10:17] <Ilhami> I am not good at using it though.. so I still stick to Sublime sometimes.
[10:17] <agent_white> After I began to use it... now I use i3 with vim bindings, cvim in chromium, and vim binds for irssi/weechat.
[10:17] <agent_white> zathura for pdfs (has vim binds)... <3
[10:17] <Ilhami> I also use git bash on windows
[10:17] <Ilhami> horrible
[10:17] <dreaded> vim is powerful
[10:18] <agent_white> People who don't use vim/emacs make  them out to be harder than they are  I feel :) People who use both encourage them.
[10:18] <Ilhami> I have used Filezilla a lot.
[10:18] <Ilhami> but FTP.. uggghh
[10:18] <agent_white> Ilhami: And... mmm... Sublime does have vim-bindings... you know... if you want to... ;)
[10:19] <Ilhami> agent_white, I didn't know that :)
[10:19] <siva> #drupal-vdd
[10:19] <idundidit> gedit, #thuglife
[10:20] <Ilhami> the reason I am moving over to Linux is that this windows os has become so slow.
[10:20] <Ilhami> Linux is just fast :)
[10:20] <Ilhami> and gives more freedom.
[10:20] <idundidit> Windows likes becoming slow
[10:20] <keevitaja> hi, can you recommend gmail notifier for unity? the one you know that works!
[10:20] <idundidit> dat registry doe
[10:20] <Ilhami> idundidit, exactly. I have had bad experiences with Windows.
[10:20] <penguinman> keevitaja, thunderbird and keep it running minimized
[10:21] <penguinman> what I do anyway
[10:21] <idundidit> Gnome3 has nice ass notifiers.
[10:21] <keevitaja> penguinman: i just got rid of the thunderbird... it just looks so ugly
[10:21] <agent_white> Ilhami: Learn to love the command line. It's insanely powerful.
[10:21] <Ilhami> idundidit, Register to download your Free Product
[10:21] <Ilhami> Thanks idundidit  :/
[10:22] <Ilhami> I have to register now!
[10:22] <agent_white> Avoid GUI where you can, and you'll gain knowledge that traverses *nix OS's.
[10:22] <penguinman> keevitaja, well, there's evolution. the gnome 3 clinet. think it runs ok on unity.
[10:22] <Ilhami> for the VMWare
[10:22] <idundidit> Ilhami, lol try bugmenot.com
[10:23] <penguinman> i use different mail services tho, plus my own mail server so a regular gmail notifier doesn't exactly fit my needs.
[10:23] <keevitaja> i have 14.04 lts
[10:23] <Ilhami> I will use one of those disposable mails
[10:23] <Ilhami> :D
[10:23] <idundidit> :P
[10:24] <idundidit> Learning CLI is very important, because there are times when the GUI goes down, and you need to know how to fix it.
[10:24] <idundidit> Especially if you like to tinker.
[10:24] <penguinman> plus certain things are just faster in a command line.
[10:24] <agent_white> Or more importantly, the fact that avoiding the GUI means you'll be that much more efficient at just getting things done without the crutch of a GUI.
[10:24] <Ilhami> dude it wants all kind of information about me. I thought it was just the email. Now it wants address and all that
[10:24] <idundidit> I can't tell you how many times I've broken my system after installing a new driver.
[10:25] <idundidit> Ilhami, use bugmenot.com
[10:25] <agent_white> Need to remote into a server and work? NO biggie. ;)  Actually is the reason I use vim as my primary editor... it is everywhere I go.
[10:25] <penguinman> honestly, part of the reason I like unity is the Alt menu search.
[10:25] <idundidit> All about dat VNC
[10:26] <Ilhami> This bugmenot is an amazing concept :P
[10:26] <Ilhami> hahaha
[10:26] <idundidit> It's been around for yeaaaaaaars, and I've used it for years.
[10:26] <Ilhami> Thanks man. It worked! :)
[10:26] <penguinman> nah, give me a ssh prompt anyday.
[10:26] <idundidit> No problem ;)
[10:27] <idundidit> I will launch a VNC session with your ssh prompt, penguinman
[10:27] <Ilhami> I am going to love Gnome3.
[10:27] <idundidit> Gnome3 da bes.
[10:27] <agent_white> Pfft, I'll avoid that overhead of VNC and just ssh ;D
[10:27] <penguinman> sure, but ssh is better when I'm remoting in from my phone.
[10:27] <penguinman> which I do quite often actually.
[10:28] <agent_white> VNC assumes you have x11-forwarding setup on your machine... which, if they are servers or otherwise, will almost definitely not have.
[10:28] <agent_white> Why use the bloat? ssh is lean and mean ;D
[10:29] <Ilhami> 168 MB for the Vmware tool :P
[10:30] <Ilhami> brb
[10:30] <jishjish> agent_white: I am interested to learn how to setup and use ssh, and I am a complete beginner to ssh. can you recommend anywhere?
[10:30] <agent_white> jishjish: I would highly recommend the Ubuntu as well as Arch Linux documentation on it.
[10:31] <agent_white> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring   as well as https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Secure_Shell
[10:32] <agent_white> Though, both assume you know the _basics_ of SSH. For a more general introduction on the "who/what/why"
[10:32] <Ilhami> what do you guys use as an alternative for Office?
[10:32] <agent_white> http://csce.uark.edu/~kal/info/private/ssh/ch01_01.htm
[10:32] <idundidit> Ilhami, my Gnome3 setup :) http://a.pomf.se/jzuaok.png
[10:32] <jatt> TeX
[10:32] <idundidit> Ilhami, libreoffice
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, libreoffice for the win
[10:32] <agent_white> Ilhami: I used to use libreoffice (successor to openoffice), but now I just use googledocs :P
[10:32] <jatt> hm
[10:32] <Ilhami> well I also heard there is something called Office Online now.
[10:32] <Ilhami> it's like Google Docs lol
[10:33] <penguinman> yeah, google docs is really nice, especially if you do anything from a chromebook.
[10:33] <agent_white> I live in the rural-country, so bandwidth comes at a cost ;)
[10:33] <idundidit> Open Document Format. Cheeeeeeeah!
[10:33] <Ahti> People connecting to their SSH servers from phone, assuming android. What do you use to make it more "useable", default keyboards and typing commands with flags, etc is a pain on touch screen
[10:33] <Ilhami>  idundidit I love it :)
[10:33] <Ilhami> it's so neat
[10:33] <penguinman> main thing is get a better keyboard app.
[10:33] <idundidit> ty
[10:33] <Ilhami> :P if I can have that theme it would be awesome!!!
[10:33] <Ahti> ie?
[10:34] <agent_white> Ahti: There's not too much you can do... "hacker keyboard" kinda helps in keeping useful keys 'closer' to access.
[10:34] <idundidit> Ilhami, numix-circle icon pack
[10:34] <penguinman> Ahti, try an app called Hacker's Keyboard. gives you a full keyboard layout in landscape, including arrow keys and tab.
[10:34] <agent_white> ^
[10:34] <Ilhami> idundidit, :P tell me later when I have Ubuntu installed.
[10:34] <idundidit> Or Fedora. :D
[10:34] <Ahti> Alrighty, thanks guise. I'll check it out
[10:35] <Ilhami> but is Fedora arch based?
[10:35] <idundidit> no lol
[10:35] <Ilhami> oh
[10:35] <penguinman> fedora is fedora based :)
[10:35] <agent_white> Fedora is RedHat
[10:35] <idundidit> Fedora uses yum and .rpms
[10:35] <agent_white> It's like CentOS but more "bleeding edge"
[10:35] <Ilhami> Ubuntu is Debian based
[10:35] <Ilhami> right?
[10:36] <agent_white> Correct
[10:36] <Ilhami> I have used Debian before.
[10:36] <Ilhami> I am more used to that than Redhat dists
[10:36] <idundidit> Debian is nice, but the packages are so outdated.
[10:36] <agent_white> I was not a fan... too outdated.
[10:36] <idundidit> Debian sid for the latest.
[10:36] <jishjish> Ilhami: there is libreoffice or docs, or kingsoft wps office is very compatible
[10:36] <penguinman> depends. if you use the testing repos you're more or less up to date.
[10:36] <Ilhami> I mean I am more used to apt-get than yum
[10:36] <agent_white> My primary OS I speak on is Arch, and my servers are a mixture of Ubuntu/Fedora/CentOS.
[10:37] <penguinman> I'm too lazy for Arch these days lol
[10:37] <Ilhami> Whats special about Arch?
[10:37] <idundidit> I just never cared for Arch. :S
[10:37] <agent_white> It's not as bad as people make it out to be, I feel :)
[10:37] <idundidit> It's a rolling release distro
[10:37] <penguinman> no, it's really not, but you have to keep on top of it.
[10:38] <agent_white> If you ever take a peek at the Arch Wiki, it is bulletproof.  I recommend it over any other wiki, regardless of the distro you are on.. simply because it's awesome :D
[10:38] <agent_white> Pfft!
[10:38] <idundidit> Arch is like having a toaster that burns your bread 1 out of every 5 times.
[10:38] <Rabino> ahoy mateys
[10:38] <agent_white> I have yet to have a break to-date. :) It's much more exaggerated than folks make it out to be.
[10:38] <Ilhami> lol
[10:38] <Ilhami> ouch
[10:38] <agent_white> Hahaha
[10:38] <penguinman> only real issue is you have to be able to translate systemD into Upstart
[10:39] <agent_white> "service foo status" vs "systemd status service"
[10:39] <agent_white> Not too bad ;)
[10:39] <penguinman> using the archwiki for ubuntu I mean
[10:39] <llorephie> @idundidit o_O
[10:39] <agent_white> I use the archwiki when I'm on ubuntu/centos/fedora.
[10:39] <celexi> the archwiki is quite useful even though i don't use arch at all
[10:39] <agent_white> ^^
[10:39] <Ilhami> pacman :P
[10:39] <penguinman> wasn't Ubuntu supposed to be going to systemd anyway?
[10:39] <idundidit> yucky
[10:39] <llorephie> pacman nya
[10:39] <agent_white> penguinman: It will as well as all the rest.
[10:39] <agent_white> Just a matter of time :)
[10:40] <Rabino> ideas on the best setup for hosting virtual machines?
[10:40] <Ilhami> all Linux dists are going to systemd?
[10:40] <agent_white> Rabino: Checkout docker, or LXC
[10:40] <agent_white> LXC's
[10:40] <penguinman> i always used yaourt for everything. less of a pain than manually keeping AUR stuff up to date.
[10:40] <celexi> the last ubuntu you can switch from init to systemd
[10:40] <llorephie> Gentoo not :D
[10:40] <penguinman> somehow I doubt slack ever will move that direction either.
[10:40] <agent_white> Ilhami: Yes, it's a large and growing part of the Linux kernel.
[10:40] <idundidit> I haven't used Ubuntu in a few years now. Has it migrated to Mir yet?
[10:41] <celexi> i think the issue is actually installing gentoo
[10:41] <celexi> no it hasn't
[10:41] <llorephie> Nope yet
[10:41] <Ilhami> Mir?
[10:41] <agent_white> celexi: Hahaha amen.
[10:41] <idundidit> Mir is replacing X server
[10:41] <penguinman> Mir comes in with Unity 8. in testing right now.
[10:41] <agent_white> celexi: It's on my to-do list... after skydiving...
[10:41] <Ilhami> so many replacements.
[10:41] <idundidit> I prefer Wayland myself.
[10:41] <Ilhami> can't keep hold.
[10:41] <penguinman> installing gentoo wasn't bad, just waiting for everything to compile was a pain in the ass.
[10:41] <agent_white> Mir replacing X?  Isn't wayland moving into that slot?
[10:42] <celexi> i dont have preference between wayland or mir
[10:42] <bipul> There is a command tr which shuffle and translate the alphabet. I would like to know that , am i allow to set a certain parameter to translate a un meaningful word into meaningful. for example i have "Vrphwklqj phdqlqixo" And i want to set a parameter in tr with A ->.D, a->d, M->P, m->p, X->A , x->a
[10:42] <penguinman> not on ubuntu.
[10:42] <idundidit> agent_white, yes, but Ubuntu are being nazis and using Mir instead of Wayland.
[10:42] <celexi> i just want x gone and dead
[10:42] <celexi> x is garbage
[10:42] <Ilhami> why?
[10:42] <penguinman> X isn't garbage, it's just OLD
[10:42] <agent_white> idundidit: Oh really?  /me begins a google dive
[10:42] <agent_white> ^
[10:42] <celexi> well yeah it is just old
[10:42] <idundidit> lol
[10:42] <Ilhami> calling it garbage without reasons is not smart :P
[10:43] <penguinman> was originally designed to basically throw multiple terminals on one screen and not much else.
[10:43] <celexi> what i mean is it feels terrible compared to other desktops in modern times
[10:43] <idundidit> I agree with penguinman it's not garbage, it's just dated to hell.
[10:44] <idundidit> Wayland is pretty good already, but it goes to shit when you install any nVidia drivers.
[10:44] <penguinman> if anything, the fact it's still useable, what, 40 years later, says a lot about how good it actually is.
[10:44] <celexi> yeah, i hope nvidia fixes their wayland integration
[10:44] <celexi> because amd is kind of horrible for linux
[10:45] <Ilhami> celexi, just use mir then?
[10:45] <idundidit> Mir is kind of Ubuntu's own thing. Just like Unity.
[10:45] <idundidit> Nobody else will use it.
[10:45] <celexi> well i don't mainly use ubuntu or unity
[10:45] <idundidit> nor I
[10:45] <Ilhami> oh.
[10:46] <penguinman> main reason it was forked was for better mobile compatibility. on the desktop it will probably be about on par with wayland
[10:47] <agent_white> Well... X11 is 27 years old. So more than anything it's surprising it's done so well for so long, eh? ;)
[10:47] <idundidit> It's kind of ironic how I'm on Fedora and connected to the #ubuntu channel 24/7, but never in the #fedora channel.
[10:47] <penguinman> only thing that worries me is whether apps will be cross compatible.
[10:47] <penguinman> idundidit, I used to idle in here occasionally on fedora, arch, even slackware.
[10:47] <idundidit> penguinman, true. I think that's what Ubuntu wants though... exclusivity.
[10:48] <agent_white> PS - If you are really curious about X and what the whole deal is with how it works, why ther's better... http://magcius.github.io/xplain/article/ is a good little start.
[10:48] <penguinman> for foss apps porting won't be a huge deal if the apps are designed well.
[10:48] <Ilhami> idundidit, why do you like yum better than aptitude?
[10:48] <Ilhami> why is Fedora better than Ubuntu? :D
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, eh?  t'isn't!
[10:48] <agent_white> Ilhami: Different
[10:48] <agent_white> Is a better term :)
[10:48] <idundidit> Ilhami, I like the repo management, usability... Fedora also has an amazing built in firewall
[10:49] <idundidit> Security is much better on Fedora
[10:49] <celexi> i prefer aptitude and deb packages but i do like how well redhat supports fedora/cent os
[10:49] <Ilhami> whats wrong with iptables? :P
[10:49] <agent_white> ^ iptables or bust!
[10:49] <idundidit> Fedora is also extremely Gnome-centric. Gnome everything.
[10:49] <penguinman> i handle my firewalling at the router level so that's not a huge deal for me.
[10:49] <Ilhami> really?
[10:49] <idundidit> And Fedora is more supportive of Free and Open Source Software.
[10:49] <jishjish> celexi: I am hating on redhat atm using it for work, installing packages and getting python to work is a pita
[10:49] <Ilhami> but you can get Gnome for any dist I think
[10:49] <Ilhami> ?
[10:50] <idundidit> Fedora comes packed with all the Gnome goodies.
[10:50] <agent_white> Can't exactly say Fedora is more "secure" though, since it's a more 'close-to-bleeding-edge' distro.
[10:50] <Ilhami> idundidit, okay then I will install Fedora :)
[10:50] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, there IS the ubuntu-gnome distro, you know ...
[10:50] <Ilhami> but I like aptitude better
[10:50] <penguinman> you can theoretically get unity on any distro too. but it still works best on ubuntu.
[10:50] <Ilhami> cfhowlett, oh
[10:50] <Ilhami> then I will go with Ubuntu.
[10:50] <idundidit> Yeah, just use ubuntu gnome if you like aptitude lol
[10:50] <Ilhami> you are confusing me again :D
[10:51] <idundidit> sudo apt-get remove *
[10:51] <celexi> issue that i have with fedora is that steam/games are mainly made for debian and relatives
[10:51] <Ilhami> it's like one is dragging me to one side and the other one to the other side. lol
[10:51] <agent_white> Ilhami: Stick with Ubuntu :)
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-gnome | Ilhami well, as YOU are your system administrator, CHOOSE! wisely.
[10:51] <idundidit> I don't play many games, so ch'eah
[10:51] <Ilhami> I once tried CentOS :O
[10:51] <penguinman> i like gnome in theory, but it's still a clusterfsck right now.
[10:51] <agent_white> Ilhami: Don't get lost in it until you have to.
[10:52] <idundidit> Plus, even though there's a Linux version of Steam, I still run the normal version through Wine... because it works better and more games.
[10:52] <agent_white> Tiling managers 4 president!!!
[10:52]  * agent_white runs i3
[10:52] <celexi> i am thinking in switching to ubuntu gnone from linux mint xfce
[10:52]  * penguinman actually likes unity.
[10:52] <celexi> xfce gets quite old quickly
[10:52] <idundidit> Unity is okay
[10:52] <Ilhami> xfce is fast :P
[10:52] <Ilhami> so is lxde
[10:53] <celexi> its fast but quite bland
[10:53] <Ilhami> boring to look at.
[10:53] <penguinman> the HUD is what keeps me coming back. alt to menu search is just so great.
[10:53] <Ilhami> Gnome is neat
[10:53] <idundidit> if I wanted fast I'd just use Enlightenment
[10:53] <idundidit> run Bodhi Linux
[10:53] <agent_white> I definitely recommend trying awesomewm/i3wm if you're looking for something different :)
[10:53] <llorephie> idundidit: Unity is heavy for 2GiB RAM
[10:53] <celexi> reason i don't like unity is because i use 2 monitors
[10:54] <celexi> and the unity bar stays right in middle of them
[10:54] <celexi> and it looks quite odd
[10:54] <penguinman> so do I. has no issues with that for me
[10:54] <idundidit> lol
[10:54] <Ilhami> can I have transparent windows with Gnome 3? :P
[10:54] <Ilhami> I think it looks kind of cool.
[10:54] <idundidit> never tried
[10:54] <celexi> transparent windows are cool in theory
[10:54] <celexi> in practice they are not very good
[10:54] <Ilhami> I see.
[10:54] <penguinman> run KDE if you want that :)
[10:55] <agent_white> Ilhami: As long as you have a composite manager that supports it, you can have transparency... and it's not at all rare :D
[10:55] <cfhowlett> all that eye-candy does come at a cost in system resources ...
[10:55] <agent_white> ^^ i3 i3 i3!!!
[10:55] <celexi> yeah even xfce has transparency if you enable the compositor
[10:55] <Ilhami> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/684/transparent-windows/
[10:55] <Ilhami> gnome has a lot of nice extensions
[10:56] <Ilhami> <3
[10:56] <idundidit> Indeed it does
[10:56] <idundidit> There's also an extension for a sidebar, unity-like
[10:56] <penguinman> that actually properly autohides. that is one thing I wish unity did have.
[10:57] <celexi> i wonder
[10:57] <celexi> couldn't canonical used whatever android uses for window manager for the mobile
[10:57] <celexi> and kept wayland
[10:57] <penguinman> Not to be able to do what they want to with it.
[10:57] <idundidit> Canonical is hard headed
[10:57] <idundidit> both a good and bad thing
[10:58] <idundidit> Ilhami, unity like dock in gnome3 https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
[10:59] <agent_white> Also checkout dmenu if you're a fan of quickly opening applications with little overhead/bells-and-whistles
[10:59] <idundidit> I personally hate docks because they take up screen space, but most people seem to like them.
[10:59] <celexi> thing i like about the last gnome is how you can login into gnome classic
[10:59] <celexi> yeah i am not a fan of docks
[10:59] <agent_white> dmenu!!! Use it, love it!
[10:59] <Ilhami> so guys I can choose between 14.04 and 14.0.1 and both are LTS?
[10:59] <agent_white> http://www.adercon.com/ac/sites/default/files/dmenu.png
[11:00] <penguinman> i actually used rofi when I was on i3
[11:00] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, 14.04.1  you mean?
[11:00] <Ilhami> cfhowlett, yeah sorry
[11:00] <Ilhami> http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ I am here now
[11:00] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, 14.04.1 = 14.04 + the upgrades
[11:00] <penguinman> the .1 in that is like a service pack almost.
[11:00] <Ilhami> ok then I will take that.
[11:00] <cfhowlett> penguinman, "point release"
[11:01] <Seveas> penguinman: Ubuntu XP SP 1
[11:01] <Seveas> :)
[11:01] <idundidit> lol
[11:01] <agent_white> penguinman: Never checked out rofi before... I'll take a look. dmenu has been more than enough for my needs though, so far :) suckless.org
[11:01] <penguinman> was translating into windows terms lol
[11:01] <celexi> windows 8.1
[11:01] <agent_white> suckless.org's tools are AMAZING. Well developed.
[11:01] <celexi> now featuring a start menu button
[11:01] <idundidit> Windows 10 has an actual start menu.
[11:01] <celexi> yeah
[11:01] <idundidit> It's like Windows 95 all over again. Yayyyy
[11:01] <Ilhami> Windows 10 has a keylogger :P
[11:01] <celexi> windows 10 looks quite horrible though
[11:02] <penguinman> rofi is kinda like gnome-do except text only. fits in with the aesthetic well, plus it can cycle open windows.
[11:02] <idundidit> Keyloggers are nice. If I ever forget my password, I'm sure Microsoft still has it somewhere.
[11:02] <agent_white> celexi: Praise jeebus. I worked at a callcenter... and began to despise salespeople who sold folks windows 8 only for me to teach them how to find Internet Explorer :((
[11:02] <idundidit> Ironically, Ubuntu also has a keylogger. See: Amazon unity lens.
[11:03] <penguinman> so say you have spacefm open on tag 4 and are looking at firefox on tag 1. you can jump to it as fast as if you were opening a regular program. also if you forgot where you put something.
[11:03] <Seveas> idundidit: or 'script'
[11:03] <Seveas> !info script
[11:03] <Seveas> !info bsdutils
[11:03] <Ilhami> idundidit, but you can turn that off? :P
[11:03] <Seveas> (that's where 'script' is in)
[11:03] <Ilhami> lol
[11:03] <idundidit> Yeah, you can turn it off... but still. It ships with it.
[11:03] <Seveas> Ilhami: sure, it's on but by default
[11:04] <Ilhami> thats the first thing I will turn off hah
[11:04] <idundidit> We gon' keylog errrbody.
[11:04] <Ilhami> I dont like people intruding in other peoples privacy.
[11:05] <Ilhami> I am curious how many backdoors there are in WIndows :D
[11:05] <agent_white> LOTS
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !ot
[11:05] <Timvde> if I pre-install stuff on a live usb (a language pack, or some software), will it be installed on the system?
[11:05] <idundidit> I am curious how many backdoors there aren't in Windows.
[11:05] <Ilhami> haha
[11:06] <idundidit> There's actually backdoors in Intel processors anyways though. So, kinda screwed either way.
[11:06] <chrisss123456> hey guys, i broke my windows 8 on this laptop, and running ubuntu on another partition. im trying to make a bootable usb for win 7 but it doesnt seem to work, having tried formatting it in fat32 or ntfs... anyone know what gives?
[11:06] <idundidit> Plus proprietary BIOS.
[11:06] <cfhowlett> chrisss123456, need windows media/  best to use windows tool.s
[11:06] <idundidit> chrisss123456, did you break the MBR?
[11:06] <agent_white> Timvde: Do you mean... if you customize a live cd and use it to fresh-install an OS, will that install have your custom packages?
[11:07] <Timvde> agent_white: yes
[11:07] <idundidit> chrisss123456, overwrite it with GRUB?
[11:07] <Ilhami> idundidit, :/
[11:07] <chrisss123456> idundidit: no, but i can't run any .exe , download anything from the windows store, or do anything useful really. cfhowlett: sadly, my previous comment rules that out.
[11:07] <Timvde> agent_white: we have to install 20+ PCs with some custom software, looks like this'll take a while otherwise...
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Timvde, are they networked?  if so ... LTSP install
[11:08] <chrisss123456> idundidit: overwrite? dont know what you mean
[11:08] <Seveas> Timvde: you should look at configuration management software like puppet or salt
[11:08] <choki> Is ubuntu phone already finished now? So is there a download link for the stable 1.0 version somewhere?
[11:08] <chrisss123456> essentially,  some system32 files disappeared after windows thought it would be a good idea to "fix" the drive, which was working perfectly. now nothing works properly. winmm.dll is missing, and its just crap
[11:08] <Seveas> Timvde: but to answer your question: I believe it will. Try it and see :)
[11:09] <agent_white> Timvde: Yes they will, depending on how you install (ie -- those 'steps to choose packages-to-be-installed')
[11:09] <idundidit> chrisss123456, try asking in a Windows related channel. There might be some type of bootable media you can use. Not too sure.
[11:09] <Timvde> cfhowlett/Seveas: the thing is that I want to prevent redownloading the same packages over and over :)
[11:09] <Ilhami> my connection is amazingly slow today :/
[11:09] <Seveas> chrisss123456: try ##windows
[11:09] <Seveas> Timvde: proxy server and/or local mirror to the rescue!
[11:09] <chrisss123456> Seveas: idundidit: alright, ill give that a go. thanks for the help anyway!
[11:10] <Timvde> But I'll try it by customizing the live environment first
[11:10] <agent_white> Timvde: And as cfhowlett said, definitely create an image of the OS and  image those other drives.
[11:10] <Ilhami> Seriously I am looking forward to get Ubuntu Gnome :)))))
[11:10] <agent_white> Create your custom image, then deploy it to the machines.
[11:10] <Ilhami> <3
[11:11] <idundidit> Ilhami, don't forget to install the Gnome tweak tool. Works wonders.
[11:11] <Timvde> agent_white: That's something to consider, too :)
[11:12] <agent_white> Timvde: I was a refurb technician, and made a "universal Windows image" so I could image 40+ machines at once over the network.
[11:12] <penguinman> welp, almost done with (finally) upgrading to 14.10. we shall see how this goes.
[11:12] <agent_white> Timvde: I would definitely recommend it :) Pays off in the future when you needa do it again.
[11:13] <Ilhami> do you always choose Torrent over Direct?
[11:13] <agent_white> Timvde: We used Norton's Ghost, but apparently Clonezilla is a good alternative for *nix (or, of course, handy-'ol dd)
[11:13] <idundidit> I do
[11:13] <Ilhami> is there a good reason?
[11:13] <Ilhami> is it faster?
[11:14] <idundidit> Torrents are best because 1: You can resume. 2: You share. 3: You're not wasting as much of Ubuntu's server bandwidth.
[11:14] <penguinman> yes, and it doesn't take up bandwidth from the host
[11:14] <agent_white> Ilhami: Torrent! Share the bandwidth :)
[11:14] <Ilhami> Oh ok. Let me do that then
[11:14] <penguinman> also, leave it seeding, at least until you reboot to start the install
[11:14] <idundidit> Yeah, what Penguinman said.
[11:15] <penguinman> with linux isos I usually turn off all the bandwidth throttles
[11:16] <Ilhami> this laptop is really dying :/
[11:16] <Ilhami> I wish I could afford a new one.
[11:16] <idundidit> Relevant http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Priorities_92fae8_3832543.jpg
[11:17] <penguinman> Ilhami, get a chromebook. they work great with ubuntu
[11:17] <penguinman> or any linux for that matter
[11:17] <Ilhami> really?
[11:17] <Ilhami> but hardware wise how good are they?
[11:17] <penguinman> yeah. you can even throw a bigger ssd in most of them.
[11:17] <Ilhami> it depends of course on which model
[11:17] <agent_white> Depends on your purposes
[11:17] <Ilhami> can you recommend one?
[11:18] <penguinman> the 720 is kinda the standard, but toshiba just released a 1080p one.
[11:18] <Ilhami> just some web development and maybe also some Android dev as well.
[11:18] <penguinman> Ilhami, you'll want a bigger ssd for android dev.
[11:19] <penguinman> 16 GB gets eaten pretty quick doing that.
[11:19] <Ilhami> 16 GB is nothing :P
[11:19] <celexi> there are some cheaper laptops comparable to chromebook in price
[11:19] <k1l> Ilhami: for hardware purchase advice better try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[11:19] <idundidit> Raspberry pi can do 1080p lol
[11:20] <Ilhami> cool.
[11:20] <celexi> the new raspberry pi is interesting
[11:21] <cfhowlett> guys:  hardware discussions are off-topic or hardware, please.  let's keep this channel on topic: ubuntu support
[11:21] <Ilhami> cfhowlett, I will go to ##hardware
[11:22] <Ilhami> :)
[11:22] <Ilhami> np
[11:23] <olspookishmagus> I can't get to connect to WPA2+AES, any tips on this please?
[11:24] <idundidit> olspookishmagus, which wifi adapter are you using?
[11:24] <Slig> I briefly used a nvidia card and now have switched back to a radeon card. Catalyst installs fine but unity won't load. You can only see the wallpaper
[11:26] <idundidit> Slig, have you tried "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*"?
[11:26] <Slig> Yes. I initially uninstalled the driver via passing --uninstall to the nvidia installer too
[11:27] <idundidit> Try defaulting back to your original xserver config, and then installing the catalyst drivers?
[11:27] <olspookishmagus> idundidit: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[11:28] <mrgates> guys, i know you must hear this here all the time.. but, which distro to use? fedora or ubuntu?
[11:28] <Ben64> mrgates: you're in #ubuntu ... you're likely to get a biased answer here
[11:28] <idundidit> mrgates, try both and see which you like the most. Use virtualbox or a live USB
[11:29] <cfhowlett> mrgates, duhhhhh, gee, ubuntu support here so ... ubuntu?
[11:29] <mrgates> LoL i know...
[11:29] <idundidit> It's not so one sided. I'd actually say Fedora myself.
[11:29] <hubert__> Hello, my network manager does not show wlan after i plugged in my new TP link t2uh ac600 in my desktop pc. This is the output of some wireless info script i found at the forums: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10107040/ (the wlan card should wprk with ubuntu as said in some amazon comments)
[11:29] <cfhowlett> mrgates, as it costs NOTHING to make a live usb and test for yourself, do your research
[11:29] <k1l> mrgates: use ubuntu or ask in ##linux :)
[11:29] <mrgates> nice! it´s easy to make a live usb ?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> mrgates, so easy a caveman could do it
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> mrgates  what system are you on, ,now?
[11:30] <Slig> How can I reset the x config?
[11:30] <mrgates> Windows 7
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> mrgates  then there's YUMMI for you
[11:31] <mrgates> let me search for yummi
[11:31] <k1l> !liveusb | mrgates
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> mrgates  scroll down http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[11:31] <idundidit> olspookishmagus, I tried googling for the answer. This may work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2160177
[11:31] <mrgates> you guys are AWESOME
[11:32] <olspookishmagus> idundidit: care to share you google query as well? ^^
[11:32] <mrgates> ty ty! downloading the images
[11:33] <idundidit> olspookishmagus, I just copied your hardware info + ubuntu
[11:33] <idundidit> Slig, http://askubuntu.com/questions/80914/how-reinstall-the-default-graphics-drivers
[11:37] <olspookishmagus> idundidit: any idea how is the package that contains the atheros firmware names?
[11:37] <olspookishmagus> named*
[11:38] <br01> Hi ! actually my freind is on ubuntu 14.04 LTS and he wants to reinstall it and delete windows 'cause he has several issues with internet connexion
[11:38] <br01> the problem that we can't boot his computer and the only way to work
[11:38] <idundidit> olspookishmagus, firmware-atheros?
[11:38] <br01> with it is to use ubuntu partition
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> br01  the question being
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> ?
[11:39] <olspookishmagus> the odd thing is that I'm really next to the router, a bunch of other SSID's are showing, but I cannot see the one I want to connect to
[11:40] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: Is the SSID hidden?
[11:40] <olspookishmagus> agent_white: nope
[11:40] <Ilhami> idundidit, so you said vmware player 6.0 is free?
[11:40] <Ilhami> just in case
[11:40] <idundidit> Ilhami, yes
[11:40] <idundidit> Ilhami, it's hard to find on their site. They kinda hide it.
[11:41] <Ilhami> because it wants me to choose a destination type
[11:41] <Ilhami> in this conversion tool
[11:41] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: Hm, then you're issue is not "connecting to WPA2+AES", it is being able to see a wifi network.
[11:41] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: You're sitting next to it, so you have access via ethernet?
[11:41] <br01> the problem that we can't boot his computer and the only way to work  with it is to use ubuntu partition MonkeyDust and we can't use garted 'cause we have any connexion on his computer
[11:42] <doodz> OS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have a slow internet connection,which has happened when i switched between modems.What can i do to fix that?
[11:42] <Ilhami> The size of the source disks may exceed the capacity of ...
[11:42] <Ilhami> lol
[11:42] <idundidit> lol
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> br01  you ùmean you don't have internet on that pc?
[11:43] <bojan> I am getting the following error when installing gtkterm "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10108024/"
[11:43] <Ilhami> idundidit, :) did you also encounter this warning?
[11:43] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: Eeep, I may be a bit late! Just saw you had some help. But I would recommend checking your drivers (though since you see other network, likely not the issue)
[11:43] <br01> yes MonkeyDust
[11:43] <idundidit> Ilhami, it's been a few years since I've migrated from Windows, honestly. I don't believe so though.
[11:43] <k1l> bojan: which ubuntu are you on. do you have some 3rd party repos enabled?
[11:43] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: But looking at the actual router setting via ethernet to see what exactly the setup is of the router.
[11:43] <Ilhami> idundidit, my C drive is 244 GB. I dont have space for that anywhere :)
[11:43] <bojan> kll:am using ubuntu 12.04
[11:44] <bojan> kll:I am trying to install that in chroot.
[11:44] <hubert__> Hello, my network manager does not show wlan after i plugged in my new TP link t2uh ac600 in my desktop pc. This is the output of some wireless info script i found at the forums: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10107040/ (the wlan card should wprk with ubuntu as said in some amazon comments)
[11:44] <agent_white> (802.11a/b/g) etc
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> br01  and you have another pc, with internet?
[11:44] <Ilhami> I will just do it the hard way.
[11:45] <br01> yeah i have my computer MonkeyDust
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> br01  then use that internet connection on the "ubuntu pc", is my advice -- first use your connected pc to create a live usb stick
[11:46] <k1l> bojan: is this a 64bit vs 32bit chroot missmatch?
[11:47] <doodz> OS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have a slow internet connection,which has happened when i switched between modems.What can i do to fix that?
[11:47] <bojan> kll:wat can i do??
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> doodz: wifi or ethernet?
[11:47] <doodz> lotuspsychje, both
[11:47] <k1l> bojan: sorry dont know right now. i need to leave for lunch
[11:48] <bojan> ok
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> k1l: bon apetiti
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> doodz: modem issue might be hardware related, try the ##networking guys
[11:50] <doodz> lotuspsychje, the speed is alright,the main problem is that the retrievement of data is slow.
[11:50] <demotape_> i need a new laptop. with i7  and 15 zoll and ubunut. some tips?
[11:50] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: Unplug your wireless-dongle, run `tail -f /var/log/{messages,kernel,dmesg,syslog}`, then plug your wifi-dongle in again. That output will be very relevant.
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> demotape_: check the system76 website
[11:51] <doodz> lotuspsychje, okay
[11:51] <demotape_> lotuspsychje, thanks
[11:51] <agent_white> olspookishmagus: Nice job on making note of all the information you have currently in that paste... the thing that sticks out is that there is no wireless interface popping up automagically, most likely due to a missing/unloaded driver.
[11:52] <doodz> lotuspsychje, thanks
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> demotape_: most laptops will run fine on 14.04, an ssd inside is really recomended
[11:52] <agent_white> (see how `ip link` only shows lo (loopback) and eth0 (ethernet).
[11:52] <cfhowlett> demotape_, http://bartongeorge.net/2015/01/27/welcome-the-dell-precision-m3800-mobile-workstation-developer-edition/
[11:52] <br01> MonkeyDust and then run it on my freind's computer to install windows ?
[11:53] <MrElendig> olspookishmagus: rfkill list all
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> br01  you lost me... do you want to install ubuntu or windows?
[11:54] <demotape_> cfhowlett, this one is nive but very expensive
[11:54] <cfhowlett> demotape_, dell xps13 developer edition: starts at $700
[11:55] <demotape_> cfhowlett, but is only 13 zoll
[11:55] <cfhowlett> demotape_, note: the DE has not yet been officially released, but "soon"       what the hell is 13 "zoll"???
[11:55] <Ilhami> 700 dollars is not cheap cfhowlett
[11:55] <Ilhami> not imo
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> depends on how rich you are
[11:55] <br01> MonkeyDust : My freind's computer contains already a windows and ubuntu partition , now the deal is to delete windows and install ubuntu because that ubuntu partition running on his computer contains lot of issues , and we have internet connexion on my computer
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, subjective
[11:56] <Ilhami> if you are a student it's not cheeap
[11:56] <Ilhami> cheap*
[11:56] <cfhowlett> demotape_, http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9343-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC
[11:56] <demotape_> cfhowlett, the display size
[11:56] <weeirc8089> how can I install emacs 24.4 only by compiling myself?
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> just for the info, ubuntu phones are gonna release soon: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/bq-ubuntu-phone-goes-sale-next-week-e169-meizu-device-coming-soon join #ubuntu-touch for discussions
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> br01  ok, so want to install ubuntu. then why did you ask how to install windows in your previous question?
[11:57] <cfhowlett> demotape_, so "zoll" = ... inches?
[11:57] <weeirc8089> err the question is is there an official way to install emacs 24.4? (or do I have to compile it myself)?
[11:57] <Ilhami> lotuspsychje, I am going to buy one :)
[11:57] <weeirc8089> Hello All, by the way.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> !emacs | weeirc8089
[11:58] <Ben64> weeirc8089: version 46 is in ubuntu, why would you want 24
[11:58] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I'm in Beijing, so hopefully can grab one fresh from the factory :)
[11:58] <weeirc8089> no 24.3 is in ubuntu
[11:58] <weeirc8089> not 24.4
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: meizu looks promising :p i hope for you
[11:58] <Ben64> oh well the thingy says 46
[11:58] <demotape_> cfhowlett, 15 inch = 15,6 zoll
[11:59] <cfhowlett> demotape_, ah, OK, the xps13 is too small
[11:59] <Ben64> !info emacs trusty
[11:59] <weeirc8089> 24.4 was released Oct 10 2014
[11:59] <Ben64> see says 45
[12:00] <weeirc8089> Ben64: see this: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
[12:00] <demotape_> cfhowlett, would be nice
[12:00] <Ben64> weeirc8089: yes i know
[12:00] <br01> MonkeyDust, may i didn't write my question well ... but we want to unistall windows.. sorry
[12:00] <Ilhami> cfhowlett, grab one for me as well.
[12:00] <Ben64> weeirc8089: ubuntu doesn't have the latest software, blah blah, you can do whatever you want but its not supported in this channel
[12:00] <weeirc8089> I'd like it because of drop-down menus in text mode
[12:01] <Ben64> vivid has 24.4
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> br01  ok, then first use a working pc to create a bootable usb stick -- then connect the other pc to internet and use the usb stick to install ubuntu
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, payment terms?  I prefer amazon gift cards
[12:02] <cfhowlett> weeirc8089, if you truly need bleeding/bloody edge, compile from source.
[12:02] <olspookishmagus> MrElendig: allow me to paste 3 lines here
[12:02] <frankpal> while sharing a folder between ubuntu and another ubuntu
[12:02] <olspookishmagus> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
[12:03] <Ben64> olspookishmagus: use a pastebin for multiple lines
[12:03] <frankpal> I get an error on client cannot mount Windows share permission denied although I did tick Guest access
[12:04] <olspookishmagus> agent_white: I do have access to the router via Ethernet
[12:04] <br01> MonkeyDust already done it but we have a problem to boot the computer, actually when we choose the bootable on the boot menu it doesn't work and windows starts running ps : i used the same usb to install ubuntu on my computer
[12:04] <olspookishmagus> it's setup to be WPA2+AES only
[12:04] <Ilhami> paypal? cfhowlett
[12:04] <Ilhami> and how much?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> br01  delete windows by deleting its partition, once you have booted the ubuntu stick
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, as meizu hasn't officially released it yet, can't say.  what country are you in?
[12:05] <Ilhami> cfhowlett, let's just drop it. I dont need a new phone now. I will wait a bit
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> br01  so the pc won't boot the usb stick, is that it? press F12 or so during boot, so you can select the medium
[12:05] <Ilhami> I am in Denmark.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, OK
[12:06] <br01> MonkeyDust we can't even run the bootable usb .. yes after choosing the medium windows start running by itself
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> br01  then i don't know
[12:06] <olspookishmagus> that's WPA2+AES actually
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> br01: you must turnoff fastboot or uefi boot, or F12 to boot from usb
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> br01: windows uefi boot might block you
[12:08] <br01> MonkeyDust is there any way to install gparted without connexion  ?? using my computer to get gparted package and then transfering them to my freind computer
[12:08] <br01> MonkeyDust will this work ?
[12:08] <MrElendig> uefi is not a problem, fastboot and secureboot can be
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> br01  yes, you can download a gparted iso and use that
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> br01  that is: a bootable gparted iso
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> br01  http://gparted.org/download.php
[12:11] <PCatinean> guys how do I extract the contents of a .deb file? I want to manually plce the binary libraries of wkhtmltopdf which are in a deb file
[12:11] <PCatinean> but if I install it it installs other things which I don't like
[12:12] <EriC^^> PCatinean: dpkg -x <package> <destination>
[12:12] <PCatinean> and what does --unpack do EriC^^ ?
[12:13] <EriC^^> i think it unpacks it as usual but without configuring
[12:13] <br01> MrElendig, lotuspsychje i have already disabled fastboot and secureboot
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> br01: did you try another usb port?
[12:13] <br01> MonkeyDust thank u, i am going to try it !
[12:14] <MrElendig> br01: how did you write the image to the usb stick?
[12:14] <br01> lotuspsychje yes
[12:15] <br01> MrElendig, i used unetbootin
[12:15] <MrElendig> ewwww
[12:16] <MrElendig> just dd the image to the stick
[12:16] <EriC^^> +1
[12:16] <MrElendig> unetbootin is silly
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> br01: or use the universal usb creator from ubuntu website
[12:16] <EriC^^> it can cause live usb's to not boot sometimes
[12:16] <MrElendig> dd is the best way to write any sane hybrid images to usb sticks
[12:17] <MrElendig> not that ubuntu have a history of having sane images though, but the latest ones usually works
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> MrElendig: for starters something GUI might be usefull also :p
[12:17] <olspookishmagus> # apt-cache search --names-only atheros
[12:17] <olspookishmagus> #
[12:18] <olspookishmagus> so... is this package inside some other repository?
[12:18] <EriC^^> !find atheros
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | olspookishmagus
[12:19] <c31r2g> !ubottu | c31r2g
[12:21] <peter8983> i have ubuntu server on virtualbox and i am trying to connect to apache from my host machine which is windows 7. i can ping my host from ubuntu guest machine but i can't ping the guest machine from the host Windows 7. any idea what might be causing this?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> peter8983  make sure the network is set to 'bridged', not NAT
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:22] <br01> lotuspsychje, can u give please a link to download universal usb creator ? i didn't find it :/
[12:23] <peter8983> MonkeyDust i tried with bridget but it didn't work. now i am trying with host-only network
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> br01: here mate: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> br01: this is from windows yes
[12:25] <Foxhoundz> I need help!
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> Foxhoundz: if you ask a question
[12:25] <Foxhoundz> I can't seem to find a way to get ubuntu to detect my Killer Lan E2200 NIC
[12:25] <br01> lotuspsychje in fact i am using ubuntu on my computer ^^ i knew that there is an missunderstood between us :p
[12:25] <Foxhoundz> It's an Atheros based chip apparently
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> br01: then create an usb stick with the ubuntu's image creator
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> peter8983  are guest and host in the same network? or is one in 192.168... and the other in 10.0... ?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> br01: its an icon with a harddisk + ubuntu logo on it
[12:28] <peter8983> they are with different ip addresses. i guess not on the same network
[12:28] <peter8983> ubntu is 10.0.2.15
[12:29] <peter8983> windows is 192.168.31.101
[12:29] <Heimdall> hey guys. how is it possible, that my little server is  aviable via http/ssh from outside but i cant ping from server to google e.g.
[12:29] <Heimdall> also not with ip 8.8.8.8
[12:29] <br01> lotuspsychje, yep yep i found it ^^ thank u so much
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> peter8983: try the ##networking guys
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> br01: no sweat mate
[12:31] <asmod4n> oh hi, ubuntu snappy core seams to be broken for the raspberry pi 2
[12:31] <asmod4n> the “snappy” command doesn’t work because of a misconfigured certificate store which cannot be resolved because the image is read-only
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> !snappy | asmod4n
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> anyone ?:()
[12:36] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> I can't seem to find a way to get ubuntu to detect my Killer Lan E2200 NIC
[12:36] <asmod4n> lotuspsychje: thanks
[12:36] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: does it have support on linux
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> asmod4n: your welcome
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> I do not know.
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> BUT
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> It's an atheros based card
[12:36] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: find out before wasting time
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> which leads me to believe that it is
[12:36] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: not always
[12:36] <Foxhoundz> ikonia: I don't know!
[12:37] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: find out
[12:37] <Foxhoundz> That's why I'm here
[12:37] <Foxhoundz> in the first place
[12:37] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: so contact the vendor would be an easy starting point
[12:37] <Foxhoundz> Really
[12:37] <ikonia> finding out the exact chipset model would be a second point
[12:37] <ikonia> they are two easy ways to get a good idea
[12:37] <Foxhoundz> You really want me to mail atheros asking if their NIC supports Linux?
[12:37] <Foxhoundz> :|
[12:37] <Foxhoundz> If you don't want to help you have the right to keep silent, you know.
[12:37] <ikonia> asking a hardware vendor what operating system it supports is not unreasonable
[12:38] <ikonia> finding out the exact chipset is not unreasonable either
[12:38] <Foxhoundz> I KNOW they don't support Linux
[12:38] <ikonia> helps you move things forward with confident
[12:38] <Foxhoundz> I do NOT know if Ubuntu supports the NIC, however.
[12:38] <Foxhoundz> Again, thus, why I'm here
[12:38] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: ubuntu is linux
[12:38] <Foxhoundz> uhh...I don't think you understand.
[12:38] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure I do
[12:39] <Foxhoundz> right.
[12:39] <Foxhoundz> well, I'll stick around for more helpful hand
[12:39] <Foxhoundz> you carry on
[12:39] <ikonia> finding out the exact chipset would be useful
[12:40] <Runka> i did a minimal installation and now when i need to save a password to lets say network manager i get a popup about the default keyring, on a full install i dont get this msg, can someone help me on what did i not install or do correctly?
[12:40] <ikonia> Runka: whats the popup ?
[12:40] <ikonia> Runka: on a full install keyring is used still, so whats the actual popup
[12:41] <wlan> hi
[12:41] <wlan> what can I do when the LAN is not working??
[12:41] <olspookishmagus> any ideas why I can't see a specified network's wireless broadcast? is there some sort of entry that I need to wipe or so?
[12:41] <Runka> "Choose password for new keyring" blah blah blah ikonia
[12:41] <ikonia> Runka: is it asking you for a password for the keyring, or a password for the key so it can save it ?
[12:41] <ikonia> wlan: depends on many things, explain the problem
[12:42] <ikonia> olspookishmagus: see the broadcast ? in what wy ?
[12:42] <ikonia> way
[12:42] <wlan> he doesnt find the wlan
[12:42] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1293414  Foxhoundz check the fix in the link
[12:42] <wlan> the LAN
[12:42] <wlan> when I plug the LAN in nothing happens
[12:42] <Runka> ikonia: it wants me to input a new password for the default keying
[12:42] <olspookishmagus> ikonia: I can't see the broadcast, I can't even see the ESSID in: iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID
[12:42] <wlan> when I ifconfig, only finda wlan and lo, but no eth0
[12:42] <ikonia> Runka: so unlock the keyring then
[12:43] <ikonia> olspookishmagus: so not the broadcast address, your talking about a wireless SSID
[12:43] <olspookishmagus> however every other device can see and can negotiate with that router
[12:43] <olspookishmagus> and eventually connect to that wireless network
[12:43] <ikonia> wlan: what is the make of ethernet card in your machine
[12:43] <Runka> ikonia: no it wants to CREATE, aka put a NEW password
[12:43] <wlan> how o find out_
[12:43] <olspookishmagus> ikonia: well, yes, you're right
[12:43] <ikonia> Runka: so it's asking you for a password for the keyring to lock it
[12:43] <ikonia> Runka: give it a password then
[12:43] <wlan> how do I find it out?
[12:43] <ikonia> wlan: is this a laptop ?
[12:44] <wlan> z
[12:44] <Runka> ikonia: no, shouldn't the default keyring get unlocked with the login password??
[12:44] <wlan> yes
[12:44] <wlan> an very old laptop
[12:44] <olspookishmagus> so, anyone has any idea why I don't get that ESSID shown?
[12:44] <ikonia> Runka: correct, but if you've not installed the package that binds it (probably a pam package ?) you won't get that
[12:44] <ikonia> olspookishmagus: first thing is try to join it manually - see if your card is actually working
[12:44] <Runka> ikonia: i have libpap-gnome-keyring installed though
[12:44] <c31r2g> wlan one is the password youre saving and another is the one that it nrdds to save
[12:45] <c31r2g> Needs
[12:45] <Runka> ikonia: is there another one?
[12:45] <ikonia> olspookishmagus: sounds like the card is either not working properly, or the driver does not support scan
[12:45] <ikonia> Runka: thats just the library
[12:45] <ikonia> Runka: the package that links it into the desktop auth - I don't know, you've done a minimal install, you'll need to work it out
[12:46] <ikonia> Runka: I suspect (and this is just a guess) that the installer actually sets this password so try setting it to your normal user password, change your user password and see if the key one changes too)
[12:46] <ikonia> Runka: the package may already be installed, but the default password has not been set to bind it to your account
[12:46] <ikonia> Runka: that was just a guess though
[12:47] <wlan> ikonia, so how do i find the make of my soundcard?
[12:47] <Runka> ikonia: ok
[12:47] <ikonia> wlan: sound card ?
[12:47] <Runka> ikonia: thanks
[12:47] <ikonia> wlan: you said network card a minute ago
[12:47] <wlan> ethernet card
[12:47] <wlan> yes sorry
[12:47] <wlan> ehternet i mean
[12:47] <ikonia> Runka: (keep in mind I'm making an assumption - not fact)
[12:47] <ikonia> wlan: lspci
[12:48] <wlan> what can I grep?
[12:48] <ikonia> just look for the ethernet controler
[12:48] <ikonia> there can't be that many pci devices in your laptop
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> wlan  try lspci|grep thernet
[12:50] <wlan> maybe one of these
[12:50] <wlan> 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:50] <wlan> 07:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller
[12:50] <wlan> 07:06.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCIxx12 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
[12:50] <ikonia> no
[12:50] <ikonia> there is no "ethernet" in here
[12:51] <wlan> so the laptop dont have any lan possibility?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> wlan  try lspci|grep thernet
[12:51] <wlan> the person who asked me to fix it, said, it worked some time ago
[12:51] <ikonia> why are you trying to fix it when you don't seem to understand the basics ?
[12:51] <wlan> lspci|grep thernet gives nothing as output
[12:52] <wlan> it has windows intalled, and I thought when I boot ubuntu, its will work
[12:52] <z987k> looking for some help.  I was just watching a movie with totem and it crashed out of nowhere.  Running it again, it crashes immediately with a segmentation fault(core dump).  It only happens on mp4, no other type.
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> z987k  try vlc, it's a devil-do-all
[12:53] <wlan> so if lspci give no output with ethernet it means that it wont work?
[12:53] <z987k> MonkeyDust, I tried VLC and mplayer, they both do the same thing, only with mp4
[12:54] <z987k> MonkeyDust, also of note, I ran totem as another user and it works with mp4.  Something seems to be wrong suddenly with this user.
[12:54] <z987k> and mp4 playback
[12:55] <doodz> OS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have a slow internet connection with a specific router.How can i fix that?
[12:55] <Apachez> get a faster internet connection
[12:55] <doodz> Apachez, with a different router i have no problem
[12:56] <Apachez> then replace the faulting router
[12:56] <Apachez> verify settings
[12:56] <BluesKaj> which router
[12:56] <wlan> then get a faster router >D
[12:56] <Apachez> either the router is slow or you have bad speed/duplex settings
[12:56] <doodz> BluesKaj, Home Gateway ZXV10 H201L
[12:56] <Apachez> could also be bad interface or bad cable
[12:56] <wlan> or mazbe there is a setting in the router options, doodz
[12:56] <wlan> maybe
[12:57] <wlan> i  gtg now
[12:57] <wlan> cza
[12:57] <wlan> cya
[12:57] <doodz> Apachez, i can't replace the router.My ISP only supports this router,so i am stuck with this
[12:57] <BluesKaj> doodz that's  a new one on me, never heard of it...is it ISP supplied ?
[12:57] <doodz> I should also add that in windows i have no internet connection
[12:58] <doodz> i have no problem with the internet connection*
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  that happens, we have that here too
[12:58] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, ?
[12:59] <doodz> In windows i have no problem with the internet connection.
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  ISP supplied router, that is
[12:59] <doodz> MonkeyDust, yeah that sucksl
[13:00] <doodz> MonkeyDust, so what can i do?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> doodz  not sure
[13:01] <doodz> MonkeyDust, Obviously there is a problem with this router and maybe even the OS
[13:01] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust,  not me. I bought a router that my ISP supports, made sure of that before i bought it
[13:01] <BluesKaj> doodz, do you have access to the router firmware?
[13:04] <doodz> BluesKaj,  i can see the version of it
[13:05] <VictorNegrean> hello
[13:05] <doodz> BluesKaj, well i believe that i don't
[13:06] <mysupper> hello
[13:06] <doodz> BluesKaj, but how can i check that?
[13:07] <warbirdz> hello
[13:07] <Isfahan> hi
[13:10] <mysupper> hello, I have problem with transmission. although I connect with it, I can't authenticate .
[13:10] <sungyo> mysupper, wht the prblm
[13:10] <doodz> BluesKaj, ?
[13:11] <mysupper> I got call from my server to input username and passwd. and I put already rpc username and passwd in settings.json ,,,I can't login with preset username and passwd.
[13:12] <sungyo> so ur prblm is on th tranmission-demon
[13:12] <mysupper> right.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> doodz, route -n in the terminal
[13:13] <sungyo> look wht i have done last year but forgotten..아 작년에 해놓고 까먹었어요
[13:13] <mysupper> ps aux | grep transmission tell " debian-+   636  0.0  0.0 250700  4008 ?        Ssl  22:05   0:00 /usr/bin/transmission-daemon -f --config-dir /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info" , and I got server response to put username and passwd.
[13:13] <doodz> BluesKaj, http://s7.postimg.org/723drskd7/router.png
[13:13] <doodz> wrong
[13:14] <sungyo> is ur server gui or cli?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> doodz, it'll be under the Gateway column like 192.168.0.1 or some such
[13:14] <doodz> BluesKaj, is there a paste editor that i can use like lspci | pastebin?
[13:14] <mysupper> I thought the config file is in /etc/transmission/settings.json but the actural transmission daemon is using /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info
[13:15] <mysupper> I'm using ubuntu trusty withought gui.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> !paste | doodz
[13:15] <sungyo> mysupper, maybe we have met 'ubuntu-ko', havn't we?
[13:15] <doodz> route -n  | pastebinit
[13:16] <doodz> route -n  ! pastebinit
[13:16] <EriC^^> doodz: in a terminal
[13:16] <EriC^^> doodz: install pastebinit first if you dont have it
[13:16] <doodz> EriC^^, got it
[13:17] <doodz> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10109160/
[13:19] <mysupper> right , sungyo.
[13:20] <sungyo> kkk would u come to ...ko?
[13:20] <Exagone313> hello, i'm trying to customize colors for my terminal using dircolors, i want to install https://raw.githubusercontent.com/seebi/dircolors-solarized/master/dircolors.ansi-dark but i don't know how to install it for all users, can you help me please?
[13:20] <mysupper> but I don't want to go back there, they are just talking about irc channel rule. things set up. I can't join there .
[13:21] <sungyo> tht's no problem~
[13:21] <mysupper> Nope.
[13:21] <mysupper> That's just wasting time. I already decided. sorry.
[13:21] <sungyo> that the way to be an ician~
[13:21] <sungyo> ircian~
[13:22] <doodz> BluesKaj, i see nothing about firmware
[13:22] <doodz> BluesKaj, except http://s7.postimg.org/723drskd7/router.png
[13:23] <Exagone313> should i try on another channel?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> doodz, type 192.168.1.1 into your browser address box
[13:26] <doodz> BluesKaj, i did
[13:26] <doodz> BluesKaj, i am looking into the settings
[13:28] <teward> Exagone313: it's better to just have patience
[13:28] <Exagone313> ok, i've a better question
[13:28] <Exagone313> what is the general bashrc for all users, that is executed by all users?
[13:29] <Exagone313>  /etc/profile ?
[13:30] <doodz> BluesKaj,  i found nothing about firmware
[13:31] <BluesKaj> doodz, firmware is aka the router software settings etc , but it doesn't look like you have access to any configurable options
[13:33] <doodz> BluesKaj, http://s17.postimg.org/ta92boilb/settings.png
[13:34] <BluesKaj> doodz, ok , choose network in the list
[13:36] <doodz> BluesKaj, s14.postimg.org/9mvb8hhcx/network.png
[13:37] <BluesKaj>  doodz I assume this is an ethernet connection, not wifi, correct?
[13:38] <doodz> BluesKaj, no this is a wifi connection
[13:38] <BluesKaj> ahhh
[13:40] <BluesKaj> ok doodz  choose WAN Connection
[13:41] <LiceoProva> ciao
[13:41] <LiceoProva> !list
[13:41] <doodz> BluesKaj, http://s2.postimg.org/sg1ip13zd/wan_connection.png
[13:43] <pdrz> hi, how can I image from a file then move it to floppy?
[13:49] <doodz> BluesKaj, any luck?
[13:51] <Ilhami> guys
[13:51] <Ilhami> you know another tool than unetbootin?
[13:51] <Ilhami> for windows
[13:52] <Ilhami> unetbootin is not working for me.
[13:52] <Ilhami> I can retry.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> doodz, not much there to configure, looks very tigfhtly controlled
[13:52] <doodz> Ilhami, are you using ubuntu or windows?
[13:52] <Ilhami> Windows now
[13:52] <Ilhami> but I am going to install ubuntu
[13:52] <g3ky> Ilhami, http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[13:53] <doodz> BluesKaj, so is there anything that you recommend?
[13:53] <Ilhami> g3ky, thanks!
[13:53] <Ilhami> will try it
[13:54] <g3ky> np ;)
[13:54] <pcsaaron> hello?
[13:54] <Ilhami> pcsaaron, hello?
[13:55] <pcsaaron> Oh OK cool first time here
[13:55] <pcsaaron> just recently swicthed to ubuntu, thanks
[13:55] <doodz> pcsaaron, welcome
[13:55] <pcsaaron> Do you know why I have a problem with /set nick 4aron ?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> doodz , yes call your ISP and ask to speak to a tech who knows something about using linux with your router
[13:55] <g3ky> pcsaaron, What message it returns when you try?
[13:56] <Exagone313> what is the file executed by all users when a terminal is opened?
[13:56] <pcsaaron> Hold on,  first off all what's the commandto remove all these room events please
[13:56] <doodz> BluesKaj, okay thanks
[13:56] <pcsaaron> My terminal is being spammed
[13:57] <doodz> pcsaaron, https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[13:57] <pcsaaron> doodz,  thanks I'll take a look
[13:57] <pcsaaron> is there a command to remove all the "has quit" etc
[13:57] <cfhowlett> pcsaaron, depends on what irc client you use
[13:58] <Ilhami> g3ky, how much memory should I give it?
[13:58] <Ilhami> and does it matter if I am going to install Ubuntu permanently anyway? :P
[13:59] <g3ky> Ilhami, Not really. I think that is for the persistent mode.
[13:59] <g3ky> You can ignore it, if your just doing an install.
[13:59] <a7i3n>  Can anyone here direct me to a current page dealing with installing i3wm and completely removing unity, compiz etc.
[13:59] <a7i3n> ?
[14:00] <k1l> Ilhami: the usb pen drive is only used one time install. so just go for the standard setup on the usb
[14:00] <Ilhami> I just gave it full memory. 4000MB or something
[14:00] <k1l> Ilhami: doesnt matter.
[14:00] <Ilhami> I am going to install Ubuntu on the disk and overwrite Windows anyway :)
[14:01] <pcsaaron> Guys,  how do I turn off all the connection notifications etc
[14:01] <pcsaaron> Spathon1 [~nodebot@chx74-1-88-188-159-207.fbx.proxad.net] has quit  [Remote host closed the connection]
[14:01] <Ilhami> nice tool btw.
[14:01] <g3ky> a7i3n, http://www.brentwalther.net/blog/how-to-replace-unity-with-i3-window-manager-on-ubuntu-1204
[14:01] <cfhowlett> pcsaaron, as I told you earlier, depends on your irc client. so : WHAT IS YOUR IRC CLIENT?
[14:02] <a7i3n> thanks g3ky
[14:02] <Ilhami> you can get Ubuntu-gnome a7i3n  D
[14:02] <Ilhami> :D
[14:02] <k1l> a7i3n: just instal i3wm and remove ubuntu-desktop?
[14:02] <g3ky> a7i3n, np ;)
[14:02] <pcsaaron> it's irssi
[14:02] <pcsaaron> running in the terminal
[14:02] <cfhowlett> pcsaaron, man irssi       in a new terminal tab
[14:02] <pcsaaron> Sorry I can't see what you say with all the spam
[14:03] <Ilhami> what spam?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, joins/leaves
[14:03] <k1l> pcsaaron: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[14:03] <Ilhami> is it possible to ignore those joins/leaves btw?
[14:03] <pcsaaron> the join messages
[14:03] <Ilhami> I mean hide them.
[14:03] <pcsaaron> ilHami that;s what im taking about
[14:03] <k1l> Ilhami: see my link
[14:03] <k1l> pcsaaron: less chatting more reading!
[14:04] <a7i3n> <- was thinking of installing ubuntu "server" and building up from there...
[14:04] <k1l> a7i3n: thats possible, too.
[14:04] <Ilhami> k1l, I will look at it after installing Ubuntu hehh
[14:04] <a7i3n> i'm running i3 as we speak it's very, very good...
[14:04] <k1l> a7i3n: most times you want the service that a full desktop offers, like gvfs and such. so you might just install i3wm and choose that in the login screen
[14:05] <k1l> Ilhami: then focus on installing first. come back when you have issues or new questions.
[14:05] <Ilhami> yeah I will.
[14:05] <Ilhami> * Received a CTCP VERSION from BluesKaj
[14:05] <Ilhami> what does this mean?
[14:06] <a7i3n> I'm doing that now k1l... might be building a very light machine in the future and didn't want to go to ARCH
[14:06] <k1l> the user send a ctcp command to check your client info.
[14:06] <Ilhami> why does he want to check my client info?
[14:07] <k1l> a7i3n: most users want the services a common desktop offers. so they will install most of that again in the aftermath. that is the experience in here.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, checking your irc client, you shouid have an option to hide joins and parts, check the hexchat help site
[14:07] <a7i3n> I'm an old guy k1l... i miss the harsh :)
[14:07] <k1l> a7i3n: :)
[14:07] <Ilhami> BluesKaj, yeah but I am going to erase this disk and replace it with Ubuntu when the USB is done :P
[14:08] <Ilhami> I shouldnt have chosen 4090MB.. it takes much longer now lol
[14:08] <a7i3n> oh and get off my lawn wil ya
[14:08] <pcsaaron> OK hopefully this has done the trick
[14:09] <pcsaaron> test
[14:09] <pcsaaron> great,  looks good
[14:10] <Ilhami> that persistent file takes so long to put on disk. :P
[14:10] <pcsaaron> No it didnt work lol
[14:10] <pcsaaron> it tells me to use /ignore #xkcd-signal MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS
[14:11] <pcsaaron> and /ignore -except -pattern yourNick #xkcd-signal
[14:11] <g3ky> Replace #xkcd-signal with #ubuntu
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, nwhich methosd are you using to create the usb image/
[14:11] <Ilhami> lol
[14:11] <pcsaaron> ircll has a great command,  /ignore * crap lol
[14:11] <pcsaaron> g3ky yeah i did lol
[14:11] <Ilhami> BluesKaj, Linux Live USB creator
[14:11] <k1l> pcsaaron: that only works on the #xkcd-signal channel now. so you still need to think before going for commands
[14:11] <pcsaaron> yeah I know lol
[14:12] <pcsaaron> using /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS doesn;t work
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, ok once you're on linux, check out dd. it works well right from the cli
[14:12] <Ilhami> BluesKaj, cool
[14:15] <Ilhami> will be back when Ubuntu is up and running.
[14:15] <Ilhami> Later
[14:15] <mysupper> Solved transmission problems. Transmission package using cli has bugs setting up.
[14:27] <Milos_SD> Hello. I installed Ubuntu 14.10 on Lenovo G50-30 laptop and I have a problem with FN keys (they don't work)... But they did worked in Live mode
[14:30] <Ilhami> it keeps saying an operating system wasnt found!!!
[14:30] <Ilhami> :///
[14:31] <Ilhami> when I reboot
[14:31] <Ilhami> stupid USB stick
[14:31] <Ilhami> stupid laptop :/
[14:31] <ubuntu> #paruwasoft
[14:31] <ubuntu> join ./#paruwasoft
[14:31] <honda> hola
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, no cdrom?
[14:32] <Ilhami> I don't have a cdrom unfortuntely.
[14:32] <Ilhami> what can be the reason to this error?
[14:33] <Ilhami> I could try on another laptop 2 sec
[14:34] <Ilhami> It's the USB
[14:34] <Ilhami> the dist not getting installed properly.
[14:35] <nook> Hi quick question after i installed ubuntu my windows fails with "/Windows/System32/winload.exe" but i have no DVD drive in my pc or usb stick, do i realy need a windows cd to fix this?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> nook, you do
[14:36] <nook> to bad :(
[14:36] <cfhowlett> nook, ask ##windows
[14:36] <Ilhami> should I install via wubi?
[14:36] <Ilhami> is that ok?
[14:36] <k1l> Ilhami: no
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, HELL no!
[14:36] <k1l> Ilhami: make a real install on own partiitons
[14:36] <Ilhami> it's not working you see.
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Ilhami, sorry, but wubi is dead, non-supported and it WILL break your ubuntu if you use it.
[14:37] <Ilhami> I see all Ubuntu files when I open the Usb from file explorer
[14:37] <Ilhami> weird that it doesn't read it.
[14:37] <k1l> Ilhami: what are you doing?
[14:37] <nook> cfhowlett, if i repair my windows with the "bootrec.exe /fixboot" command is than my grup broken?
[14:38] <xreal> Anyone with an idea, how dpkg hooks work? http://pastie.org/pastes/9893699/text
[14:38] <Ilhami> k1l, I have put Ubuntu gnome on a uSB
[14:38] <Ilhami> USB*
[14:38] <cfhowlett> nook, ask ##windows for windows repair options.
[14:38] <Ilhami> and when I reboot it says an Operating System wasn't found ...
[14:38] <k1l> Ilhami: make a bootable usb live version. then reboot and choose the usb to boot. then install from the usb onto the disk
[14:38] <Ilhami> i did
[14:38] <Ilhami> but when I reboot and it tries to read the USB it gives me "An operating system wasn't found.."
[14:39] <nook> cfhowlett, i guess ##windows gives a shit if grup is broken or not after ther commands but thanks will try
[14:39] <Ilhami> I used Linux live USB creator
[14:39] <EriC^^> nook: if you have a live usb you should be ok
[14:39] <Ilhami> I will try a last time.
[14:39] <k1l> Ilhami: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[14:40] <cfhowlett> nook, understand: repairing windows boot is ONE issue.  GRUB is a separate issue.
[14:40] <Ilhami> k1l, dude I have done this many times before where it worked
[14:40] <Ilhami> I am installing ubuntu gnome btw.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Ilhami,  http://download.cnet.com/Free-ISO-to-USB/3000-18511_4-75880271.html
[14:40] <k1l> Ilhami: sorry, but that did not sound like you know what you do the last hour.
[14:40] <Ilhami> BluesKaj, that's the third tool I use.
[14:40] <Siilwyn> Hi people, I'm having trouble with my screen. I'm using 14.04 running the Nvidia Geforce gtx 750 ti card. The problem is hard to describe but parts of the screen (mostly happening in FireFox) hang at certain frame and then flicker back and forth to it.
[14:40] <Ilhami> k1l, which part revealed that?
[14:40] <Ilhami> I have had it working before.
[14:41] <Ilhami> because it doesnt work this time?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, well, it's less difficult than dd for windows
[14:41] <Siilwyn> I am using xorg edgers ppa because the official drivers aren't compatible yet with the gtx 750 ti.
[14:42] <Ilhami> BluesKaj, hope it works this time.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, what are you using?
[14:43] <daftykins> Siilwyn: which did  you install? the 34x version?
[14:43] <Ilhami> the tool you gave me.
[14:43] <Siilwyn> daftykins, 64 bit
[14:43] <BluesKaj> ok, good luck , Ilhami
[14:43] <daftykins> Siilwyn: no i'm asking the version number :)
[14:43] <daftykins> 346 or thereabouts?
[14:44] <Siilwyn> daftykins, oh you mean the driver number? Lemme look it up real quick.
[14:44] <daftykins> just check
[14:44] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[14:44] <megamansec> Has anybody elses clock gone invisible from their gnome-panel?
[14:44] <OpenSorce> Am I the only that gets nervous when Chrome updates wondering if Netflix will still work? :)
[14:44] <megamansec> It seems to go invisible with 12-hour time, or with seconds.
[14:45] <Siilwyn> daftykins, 340.76
[14:45] <Siilwyn> daftykins, oh I looked it up at the 'additional drivers' in settings. Is that one correct too?
[14:45] <daftykins> Siilwyn: i was sure xorg-edgers had a newer one, hmm
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, have you tried the 343
[14:46] <Siilwyn> daftykins, BluesKaj no actually not, I'm kinda afraid updating will give me a blank screen.
[14:46] <Siilwyn> daftykins, BluesKaj could updating resolve it?
[14:47] <daftykins> try.
[14:47] <megamansec> Nobody else has had their clock dissapear?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> think xedgers has that driver in their ppa
[14:48] <Siilwyn> daftykins, which version? Also I can update using: 'apt-get install nvidia-340' right?
[14:48] <Siilwyn> apt-get install nvidia-343*
[14:49] <daftykins> err no
[14:50] <MonkeyDust>  !find nvidia-343
[14:51] <BluesKaj> no the 343 is in the xedgers ppa
[14:51] <Siilwyn> daftykins, I did install the 340 version using: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-340' BluesKaj
[14:51] <Siilwyn> Or is that wrong?
[14:51] <Siilwyn> It did work. ;)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, , but do you have the xedgers ppa?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> Siilwyn  it worked bacause it's in the repos, -343 isnt
[14:52] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, yes
[14:52] <Siilwyn> !find nvidia-340
[14:52] <BluesKaj> then try sudo apt-get install nvidia-343
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, it won't show in the bot's list
[14:53] <Siilwyn> MonkeyDust, I used the xorg-edgers ppa because even 340 isn't in the repos yet.
[14:53] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, ok I'm willing to try it. But what if the screen goes blank or something? Can I back something up?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, you can use the recovery kernel with the VT/TTY to remove the 343 and reinstall the 340
[14:56] <OpenSorce> Minor issue, but still annoying: after installing the updated Nvidia drivers all of the pre X graphics are bad and the console (ctrl+alt+fx) is huge.
[14:57] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, alright. Going to try it out than. Brb.
[14:57] <Siilwyn> Once the nvidia-340 or above is available in the repos I'll use those. But for now this is the only way to get the screen working. ;s
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, yes the 750ti is a hi-end card and seems to have driver trouble on linux
[15:01] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, yeah pretty annoying.
[15:01] <Siilwyn> Waiting for my dad to finish his email and stuff... ;d
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, how's the windows driver for the 750ti?
[15:02] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, no idea. Only have Ubuntu on it.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, ok
[15:02] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, http://i.imgur.com/awv0gmE.png
[15:03] <Siilwyn> Looks like 343 is still in beta while 346 is out already?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, yes, that's a bit strange
[15:06] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, would you go for the 343 or the 346?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> silverf0x, I've seen the the 346 fail miserably on the 750ti , just last week
[15:06] <daftykins> no that's the way nvidia do drivers, totally common
[15:06] <BluesKaj> iilwyn^
[15:06] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, alright totally going for 343 then. haha
[15:07]  * BluesKaj crosses fingers
[15:09] <Ilhami> I can get to the menu where it says Install Ubuntu :P
[15:10] <Ilhami> when I do it nothing happens
[15:10] <fxmulder> so I have a machine that has a 4GB root drive, it says 463MB are open but when I try to write to it it says there's no space left
[15:10] <Ilhami> I will get the normal Ubuntu desktop instead of Ubuntu-Gnome and then try it that way
[15:11] <k1l_> fxmulder: 5% is preserved for root.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, open the run command and type "install Ubuntu"
[15:13] <Ilhami> I am downloading Ubuntu desktop now :)
[15:13] <Siilwyn> E: package 'nvidia-343' has no installation candidate. Package nvidia-343 is not available but is referred to by another package.
[15:13] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, ^ this error pops ups but I do see the xorg-edgers ppa in the software list
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, odd, no # in that ppa deb line hope
[15:14] <BluesKaj> I hope
[15:15] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, ?
[15:15] <Ilhami> It's possible to remove Unity completely? :P
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, I suppose so, but I've never done it since I use KDE
[15:16] <Ilhami> you are using Kubuntu?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:16] <Ilhami> THere is also Lubuntu :P
[15:17] <James0r> having a hard time finding a conky config i once used, here's a screenshot of it. --> http://derp.co.uk/87da5 anyone recognize it?
[15:17] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, what would you suggest?
[15:17] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, also what do you mean with no # in that ppa?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, no # in front of the deb ppa in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:17] <Ilhami> # means comment right?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:18] <Siilwyn> ah
[15:18] <Siilwyn> that way
[15:18] <zacktu> Can I "try" ubuntu server with the iso?  It appears that there is no such choice.
[15:18] <ngomes> hello , i have a doubt. i installed update-manager , but installing this now means i have to start update-manager manually every time i want to update. my question is : is there some software that controls update manager automatically , or i need to add a line in crontab to make it work ?
[15:19] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, what do I have to look for? Some lines are commented some are not...
[15:19] <TJ-> zacktu: No, if you want to try it the best approach is install it in a Virtual Machine, or else use the Desktop Live 'try' option if your intention is to validate all the hardware works.
[15:20] <zacktu> TJ: what is Desktop Live?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, the xorg-xedgers ppa line
[15:20] <TJ-> zacktu: The Desktop ISO can be booted from the media directly, without installation to the target system, which we call the "live" option, also known as the "Try" option
[15:21] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, xorg-edgers ppa line isn't in that file.
[15:22] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, I can however see it at 'Software & Updates' under the 'Other Software' tab.
[15:23] <mnms_> Guys I need to put some files not on my server
[15:23] <mnms_> If I run virtual machine on this server and I will put it there it will be more secure ?
[15:23] <zacktu> TJ: The Desktop ISO includes an option to try Ubuntu desktop, but the server ISO doesn't.  That's why I was asking whether there is a way to try the server ISO.  Your suggestion of a VM sounds like the only approach to use.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[15:24] <Eddie_n00b> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with a Wireless Driver for Ubuntu. I've checked every forum I could find, but still coulnd't get it to work. Can any of you lend me a hand?
[15:24] <TJ-> zacktu: Yes, that's what I said :)
[15:25] <justelex> Hi, after running Ubuntu quiet a while I did a reinstall with a new hdd (same type as before) now I get stuck on boot. The last message is switching to clocksource tsc. Live desktop runs well. Any ideas or hints?
[15:26] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, oh 343 got deleted it seems.
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ok, sorry to steer you down the wrong path, Siilwyn
[15:27] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, oh no problem at all. Thanks for trying to help me!
[15:28] <Siilwyn> Now the question remains, what should I do? (=
[15:29] <Ilhami> jump off the bridge :)
[15:30] <Siilwyn> errr
[15:30] <Ilhami> hehe
[15:30] <g3ky> lol
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, well maybe the 346 is no longer broken
[15:32] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, well I could try... But maybe we're thinking too big. It only seems to happen with FireFox.
[15:34] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, what's the worst that can happen installing 346?
[15:35] <Ilhami> guys I have ruined my USB stick apparently
[15:35] <Ilhami> I cant select FAT32 now
[15:35] <Ilhami> only FAT
[15:35] <Ilhami> it worked with FAT32 before
[15:35] <Ilhami> can I solve it somehow?
[15:35] <Siilwyn> Ilhami, try to format it?
[15:35] <Ilhami> I did
[15:36] <Ilhami> I just lost 6GB on it :/ .. before it was 8GB. now it's only 2
[15:36] <vikas> how to make a hotspot in ubuntu 14.04
[15:37] <Siilwyn> Ilhami, try this: http://www.garron.me/en/go2linux/format-usb-drive-fat32-file-system-ubuntu-linux.html
[15:37] <Ilhami> I am on Windows Siilwyn ..
[15:37] <Ilhami> trying to install ubuntu on the USB
[15:38] <vikas> can anybody tell me how to make hotspot in ubuntu
[15:38] <Siilwyn> Ilhami, oh wow. That's confusing, haha. I always assume people on this IRC have Ubuntu.
[15:38] <vikas> plz
[15:38] <Siilwyn> vikas, are you comfortable using the terminal?
[15:38] <vikas> yes
[15:39] <Siilwyn> vikas, have you tried to use the 'Use as Hotspot' button located in the network settings?
[15:39] <TJ-> Ilhami: Trying to *install* Ubuntu from Windows, or trying to *copy* the Ubuntu installer ISO to the USB device?
[15:39] <vikas> yes but it wont work
[15:39] <Siilwyn> vikas, try this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453877/starting-wireless-hotspot-but-nothing-happens
[15:39] <vikas> k
[15:40] <TJ-> vikas: Some wifi chipsets require different firmware to operate in Access Point (AP) mode.
[15:40] <vikas> ok
[15:40] <vikas> is there any software like connectify
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, going to try the 346?
[15:41] <TJ-> vikas: "hostapd" is used as the service to provide hotspots
[15:41] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, yeah it's unpacking atm.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:42] <Siilwyn> This is nerve breaking.
[15:43] <Siilwyn> Ok, it's done installing. Restart?
[15:45] <Siilwyn> *already restarted, how do I start using it? ;d hehe
[15:46] <Ilhami> TJ-, the last one
[15:47] <TJ-> Ilhami: Have you see these instructions? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[15:47] <Ilhami> Yeah dude I have problem with my USB
[15:48] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, yes it is installed already but I have no clue how to turn it 'on'...
[15:48] <TJ-> Ilhami: If Windows is mis-reporting it, there's not a lot we can do about that. You could try asking in #windows
[15:48] <Ilhami> I will reboot
[15:49] <vikas> @siilwyn the link you gave i followed but still hotspot not oppening
[15:51] <Siilwyn> vikas, you followed the answer or the question steps?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> silverf0x, it should take effect after a reboot
[15:51] <vikas> the one that has green tick mark
[15:51] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, ^
[15:51] <BluesKaj> too many si's in her
[15:51] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, I rebooted but it states I still have 340 installed.
[15:52] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, haha yeah somebody else told me that too.
[15:52] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, dpkg -l|grep nvidia returns both 340 and 346. But the 'additional drivers' tab in settings only shows 340.
[15:53] <Siilwyn> confusing
[15:53] <vikas> @siilwyn 2 answer
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn,  lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, wrong command , hang on
[15:54] <Siilwyn> vikas, I'm afraid I can't help you any further.
[15:55] <Siilwyn> Anybody here who can help vikas? He want to setup a wifi hotspot on Ubuntu 14.04 and the default way using the 'network settings' doesn't work. Neither does running hostapd.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[15:56] <TJ-> Siilwyn: The 'additional drivers' tab will only show compatible drivers; it is possible that 346 doesn't support the chipset but 340 does. Also, I've found some bugs in 346 where the kernel wedge sometimes reports that an Nvidia device is unsupported incorrectly.
[15:56] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, ... that's the command I ran.
[15:56] <Siilwyn> TJ-, oh alright, that will be it than.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ok , so the autoremove didn't happen for the 340
[15:56] <Siilwyn> TJ-, what are more things to try out and solve screen distortions?
[15:57] <Siilwyn> *try out to
[15:57] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, no they're both installed atm.
[15:58] <Siilwyn> BluesKaj, but the 'additional drivers' tab doesn't show it.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> uhm , that's strange
[15:58] <BluesKaj> remove the 340
[15:59] <TJ-> Siilwyn: What kind of distortion, incorrect resolution?
[15:59] <fxmulder> so I have an ubuntu 11.10 server, I am trying to boot into recover mode but the grub screen never appears, it just boots straight in
[15:59] <fxmulder> even continually pressing keys I can't get it to show up
[15:59] <BluesKaj> fxmulder, hold the left shift key down right after the bios screen
[16:00] <Siilwyn> TJ-, The problem is hard to describe but parts of the screen (mostly happening in FireFox) hang at certain frame and then flicker back and forth to it.
[16:01] <TJ-> Siilwyn: Is that associated with some intensive GPU work, too - wondering if you've got an overheating issue
[16:01] <Siilwyn> TJ-, no not at all, browsing random pages triggers it already.
[16:02] <TJ-> Siilwyn: "pastebinit <(lspci -nnk)" would be helpful to me
[16:03] <Siilwyn> that opens a shell or something?
[16:03] <TJ-> Siilwyn: If you could follow that with "pastebinit <(xrandr -q)" too
[16:03] <Siilwyn> I get a '>' followed by nothing.
[16:03] <TJ-> Siilwyn: Those are commands to issue in a terminal, and will return a pastebin URL you can provide here
[16:04] <TJ-> Siilwyn: Press Ctrl+C to escape ... then type the commands *inside* the double quotes, but not the quote marks themselves
[16:04] <Siilwyn> TJ-, yeah I ran it in the terminal but I get nothing returned.
[16:04] <Siilwyn> Also without quotes
[16:04] <Siilwyn> oh, pastebinit doesn't exist right?
[16:05] <Siilwyn> so I would run: lspci -nnk
[16:05] <TJ-> Siilwyn: It's usually installed by default now, I believe. If it is missing "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[16:06] <Siilwyn> Was missing indeed: http://pastebin.com/ZRLtMhah
[16:08] <Siilwyn> OK, this is pretty awesome and weird at the same time. I don't see any distortion anymore.
[16:09] <Siilwyn> But now I pressed logout and all I see is a blinking cursor. ;0 At a black screen
[16:10] <TJ-> Siilwyn: That sounds like the driver got stuck whilst the X server was restarted
[16:11] <TJ-> Siilwyn: I'm pretty sure 346 should support the 750Ti, but having some 'issues' pulling in the source code :)
[16:12] <Siilwyn> TJ-, alright. I rebooted the pc and it works fine now.
[16:13] <xer0> in my laptop vlc wont play video
[16:13] <xer0> only sound come
[16:14] <Siilwyn> TJ-, BluesKaj well thank you very much for all your help and answers. I'm not sure if the issue is resolved now but I ain't going to fix something that isn't broken.
[16:15] <Siilwyn> xer0, did you install the codecs in the installation of Ubuntu?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Siilwyn, well i can understand that and I hope itremains stable for you
[16:16] <cfhowlett> xer0, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:16] <xer0> s
[16:17] <xer0> do i install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> xer0, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:17] <cfhowlett> *install*
[16:19] <toastee1> I have a really weird issue... just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. my audio chipset is an Intel H61 and I'm using the HDMI output. Audio works fine the *second* time I test the speakers in System Settings, but not the first. Audio works fine in XBMC, but nowhere else on the system (Chrome, Firefox, etc.).. I've tried a bunch of different solutions like reinstalling alsa, killing pulseaudio, deleting pulseaudio config...can't figure it out. Any ideas?
[16:20] <explosive> toastee1: same here when i plug in hdmi i have to select it in the settings
[16:20] <ikonia> I suspect hdmi isn't responding quick enough to sync the first time you press test
[16:21] <toastee1> Okay, so that makes sense
[16:21] <toastee1> I select it in the settings
[16:21] <toastee1> But no applications besides XBMC will work with it
[16:21] <toastee1> No HTML5 video, no spotify, no flash
[16:24] <toastee1> Rhythmbox doesn't work either
[16:24] <xer0> i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. Still doesn't work.
[16:30] <Siilwyn> xer0, try to uncheck 'Accelerated Video Output (overlay)' in the settings of VLC.
[16:32] <toastee1> explosive, ikonia no ideas eh
[16:34] <xer0> ty
[16:35] <xer0> i restarted and now is working.
[16:35] <Siilwyn> xer0, oh nice.
[16:37] <Corentino> what ?
[16:37] <xer0> btw should i check or uncheck Accelerated video output(overlay)??
[16:38] <cage> Has anyone dabbled with bluetooth on ubuntu?
[16:38] <cage> just wondering how much effort it is to get it to work on my laptop
[16:38] <cage> asus x500 series
[16:40] <Ilhami> how to format a disk with ubuntu?
[16:40] <agent_white> Ilhami: 'with linux' is the right way to ask it :)
[16:41] <agent_white> Ilhami: There's many ways. Depending on if you wanna use a GUI or CLI.
[16:41] <Ilhami> It doesn't matter :)
[16:41] <Ilhami> I need to format to FAT32 ormat
[16:41] <Ilhami> format*
[16:42] <xer0> Siilwyn, tq
[16:42] <agent_white> fdisk/cfdisk being CLI prominent, and gparted for GUI
[16:43] <agent_white> Ilhami: If it's fairly important (hdd), use gparted for your firsttime. If you have time to spare, and it something like a USB drive, I recommend learning/using fdisk/cfdisk.
[16:44] <Ilhami> it's a usb disk dude :)
[16:44] <agent_white> Ilhami: Oh good! Dude just go the fdisk/cfdisk route.
[16:44] <agent_white> Ilhami: There tutorials are better than gparted, imo, since CLI's are universal... one sec.
[16:45] <agent_white> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning
[16:45] <agent_white> Again, of course not Ubuntu, but Arch Linux's wiki is the best  out there. :)
[16:46] <mas886> Hi there, can someone help me with some wine things?
[16:47] <siddhesh_> its easy
[16:47] <mas886> I'm trying to install Microsoft.NET 4.0 on wine, but it seems somehow stalled at "Downloading RGB9RAST_x86.msi"
[16:48] <cfhowlett> mas886, get the download link and use this command to download: wget -c FileNameHere.msi        then use wine to installl
[16:49] <mas886> Yeah, the problem is that that file is a part being downloaded by the microsoft.net installer (sorry I'm quite new)
[16:54] <freeroute> hi, suppose I only want to search for the package named "python" using apt-get/aptitude. How do I do that? Currently when I do aptitude search "python" it spits out everything including python-lunch.
[16:54] <explosive> freeroute: apt-cache search python
[16:54] <explosive> freeroute: if you want exactly python, apt-cache show python
[16:56] <freeroute> explosive: ah, that makes sense. So there's no syntax which says "literally this string"?
[16:56] <QueensMelons> Guys, I need some help. I'm getting isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt when I try to boot from my pentium 4 system
[16:57] <cfhowlett> QueensMelons, booting from installed to HDD or from live usb/cdrom
[16:57] <SchrodingersScat> freeroute: not certain on that, but there's also ^python which should only show packages starting with python, if that's any closer.
[16:57] <QueensMelons> Live USB with Ubuntu server 14.04
[16:57] <toastee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/582806/no-audio-in-firefox-chrome-spotify-etc-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:58] <cfhowlett> QueensMelons, 1.  verify the server.iso    2. verify the USB
[16:58] <jatt> explosive: apt-cache search --names-only ^python$
[16:58] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | QueensMelons
[16:58] <QueensMelons> cfhowlett: done, and done.
[16:58] <freeroute> explosive: yeah, that definitely narrows it down. Thanks!
[16:59] <cfhowlett> QueensMelons,  ... have an extra USB?  try again
[16:59] <QueensMelons> Could the fact that I'm using usb3 be a problem?
[16:59] <QueensMelons> I'll try with a usb2 drive
[17:00] <explosive> jatt: cool
[17:00] <explosive> thx
[17:00] <freeroute> nice
[17:00] <Ilhami> agent_white, cant you show me the command?
[17:00] <freeroute> toastee: is it me or is the CSS completely stripped from that page?
[17:01] <toastee> freeroute, just you i think
[17:01] <freeroute> hmm, might be that mullvad VPN
[17:01] <explosive> freeroute: np
[17:03] <freeroute> hmm, the -U flag of pip doesn't seem to be documented in 12.04
[17:10] <QueensMelons> cfhowlett: different USB, same problem
[17:10] <Ilhami> the problem is my USB has been partioned in two :/
[17:10] <Ilhami> sdb - sdb1. sdb2
[17:11] <Ilhami> how can I format it completely?
[17:11] <Ilhami> I am checking lsblk
[17:11] <shahid_>  /join #nonameyetsoft
[17:11] <QueensMelons> Ilhami: gparted
[17:11] <Ilhami> ok let me get it
[17:12] <Ilhami> Warning
[17:13] <Ilhami> listen to this carefully and answer me carefully.
[17:13] <Ilhami> let me write down the error here. 2 sec
[17:14] <Ilhami>  /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted possibly by a program that doesnt understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?
[17:14] <Ilhami> yes or no?
[17:15] <Ilhami> I dont know what to answer here
[17:15] <Ilhami> this happened when I opened gparted
[17:15] <Ilhami> this is my USB stick btw
[17:15] <Ilhami> I checked with lsblk
[17:15] <QueensMelons> Ignore that
[17:15] <Ilhami> So should I say it is a GPT table or not?
[17:15] <Ilhami> It is asking me.
[17:15] <QueensMelons> Say it is
[17:16] <QueensMelons> Then write a msdos partition table to the USB drive
[17:16] <Ilhami> ok :)
[17:16] <QueensMelons> And then restart gparted
[17:17] <Ilhami> it keeps asking me.
[17:17] <k1l_> Ilhami: honestly: just dd that ubuntu.iso onto the bare usb and you are good
[17:17] <Ilhami> but I tested the usb on another laptop to format it properly.
[17:17] <Ilhami> cant you help me formatting it properly?
[17:17] <Ilhami> on gparted it is unalloacted
[17:18] <Ilhami> No partition table found on device /dev/sdb when I right click -> "new"
[17:18] <Ilhami> I am creating a partition table on it now
[17:18] <Ilhami> which one should I use?
[17:18] <Ilhami> msdos?
[17:18] <QueensMelons> Yes
[17:19] <QueensMelons> Are you attempting to write Ubuntu ISO to the drive?
[17:19] <QueensMelons> If so, just dd
[17:19] <Ilhami> No man
[17:19] <QueensMelons> To /dev/sdc
[17:19] <Ilhami> Some software messed up my USB
[17:19] <k1l_> Ilhami: what is this usb for?
[17:19] <Ilhami> so now I have only 2GB instead of 8GB as it had in the beginning
[17:20] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, are you still on windows
[17:20] <Ilhami> and I couldnt format it with FAT32 as I could before
[17:20] <QueensMelons> Ilhami: did you write the partition table?
[17:20] <Ilhami> no I am on my Linux laptop now
[17:20] <Ilhami> yes I did
[17:20] <Ilhami> it says now
[17:20] <QueensMelons> Ilhami: restart gparted
[17:20] <QueensMelons> Then create a partition
[17:20] <Ilhami> The driver descritor says the physical block size is 2048bytes but Linux says it is 512 bytes
[17:20] <Ilhami> LOL
[17:20] <Ilhami> I can cancel or ignore
[17:20] <AKI2> HOIL
[17:20] <QueensMelons> Ignore
[17:21] <k1l_> Ilhami: way less enter, way more answering the questions to help you
[17:21] <BluesKaj> Ilhami, that's a common message just ignore
[17:21] <Ilhami> 2 sec
[17:21] <AKI2> Plants Vs Zombies
[17:21] <Ilhami> now it says unallocated 28.86GB
[17:21] <Ilhami> what the heck?
[17:21] <Ilhami> on the USB drive
[17:21] <BluesKaj> yeah, ignore that too
[17:22] <Ilhami> it still says no partition table even though I did create it from partition -> create
[17:22] <Ilhami> I mean Device -> Create partition table
[17:22] <Ilhami> Invalid argument during seek for write on /dev/sdb when I choose msdos
[17:22] <BluesKaj> unmount
[17:22] <DJones> AKI2: Ubuntu support issue?
[17:25] <Ilhami> ok I created a new partition with gpt.
[17:25] <Ilhami> that worked fine
[17:27] <Ilhami> but it couldnt create a new fat32 file system on it
[17:27] <Ilhami> brb
[17:28] <Jasonrj> Probably a newbie question, but how do I move all files including those that start with a . into the parent directory? I tried mv * .. but that left the .htaccess file. I tried mv *.* .. but that also didn't move everything. Is there a simple way to do it that I'm not thinking?
[17:29] <zer0h> ok done
[17:35] <BLZbubba> anyone here know how i can load music on a 3rd gen ipod touch with ubuntu 14.04?
[17:36] <k1l_> BLZbubba: i would try itunes in wine
[17:36] <k1l_> (but i dont have ipods so no experience with that)
[17:36] <Ilhami> so what do I do now?
[17:36] <Ilhami> now it has GPT partition table
[17:36] <g3ky> BLZbubba, http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-linux-replacements-for-itunes/
[17:37] <Ilhami> seems like I need msdos to open on windows
[17:37] <BLZbubba> g3ky: which one of those do you use?
[17:38] <OerHeks> BLZbubba, this page might be any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Loading_music_onto_an_iPod
[17:38] <OerHeks> BLZbubba, good luck !
[17:38] <BLZbubba> OerHeks: what method are you using for this?
[17:38] <OerHeks> BLZbubba, i have no ipod, this page is the most recent i know
[17:38] <BLZbubba> i'm asking if anyone here currently has their system working with an ipod, and if so what software are you using
[17:39] <OerHeks> BLZbubba, all apps that can work, are mentioned, with pro & cons
[17:40] <Ilhami> YES I GOT IT BACK TO NORMAL
[17:40] <Ilhami> haha I created new partition table on Linux and formattted it back to FAT32 on Windows :P
[17:40] <Ilhami> I couldnt format it to 32 on Linux. Weird.
[17:41] <Ilhami> Running Linux Live USB Creator
[17:42] <k1l_> Ilhami: do you want to make a ubuntu usb bootable?
[17:42] <Ilhami> yes
[17:42] <Ilhami> from Windows
[17:42] <Ilhami> I am using Linux Live USB Creator
[17:43] <k1l_> ok, now lets make this a easy process where really few could go wrong: dd the ubuntu.iso onto the usb stick. make sure its /dev/sdc and not /dev/sdc1 as target
[17:43] <Ilhami> I am not on Linux anymore.
[17:43] <k1l_> ...
[17:43] <Ilhami> dude it will work this time. Don't worry.
[17:43] <k1l_> ok, then use the howto form ubuntu.com i linked to your earlier
[17:45] <Ilhami> I have never had this problems before btw. I have tried many times where it worked smoothly.
[17:45] <Ilhami> these*
[17:45] <arooni-mobile> cant mount a sd card ... how can i mount it:  "Error mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /media/david/3C77-CBF9: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/mmcblk0p1" "/media/david/3C77-CBF9"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat"
[17:46] <k1l_> gpt might be an issue for the usb creators.
[17:46] <Ilhami> Verbatim just sucks :/
[17:47] <Symmetria> hrm, I wonder how long before Linux includes rocketraid drivers into the kernel so you wont have to use vendor drivers
[17:52] <Ramseize> Best low footprint ftp for ubuntu?
[17:53] <k1l_> Ramseize: use ssh with sftp
[17:53] <Ilhami> ncftp
[17:53] <Ilhami> but ftp sucks
[17:54] <Ramseize> What's your idea compared it to vsftp?
[17:54] <k1l_> Ramseize: ftp is like 1990s. ssh comes with sftp support which is encrypted. so use that
[17:54] <Ramseize> What ftp alternative can you recommend?
[17:55] <Ilhami> filezilla
[17:55] <Ilhami> brb
[17:55] <Ilhami> you mean ftp client alternative?
[17:55] <Ilhami> or alternative to FTP?
[17:57] <Ramseize> I have vps i want to easily access and change my files?
[17:57] <k1l_> Ramseize: did you even look at sftp now?
[17:58] <SchrodingersScat> if the vps already has openssh-server, then it already has sftp, should just go ahead and use it.
[17:58] <Ramseize> Thanks for the advice
[18:04] <Goose_> Hey guys
[18:04] <Ilhami> Hey
[18:04] <Ilhami> when I install Ubuntu I get some errors
[18:04] <Ilhami> ACPI errors
[18:04] <Ilhami> and it stops at PRAMIN for image
[18:04] <Ilhami> ...
[18:04] <Ilhami> what does this mean?
[18:04] <Goose_> quick question. For some reason my flash drive isn't being read, anyone know why?
[18:04] <Goose_> Have you checked askubuntu?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> !details| Goose_
[18:05] <k1l_> Ilhami: please stop using the enter key after every single word. that gets annoying to users that might help you
[18:05] <Ilhami> k1l_, it's a habit
[18:05] <Ilhami> sorry
[18:05] <k1l_> Goose_: see "dmesg" if there is some error
[18:05] <Ilhami> but do you know what could be wrong?
[18:06] <mw46> anybody has a good understanding of ssh-add and friends? at some point my Kubuntu 14.04.1 started to ask for the passphrase again even while the keys were added before??
[18:06] <Goose_> dmesg doesn't appear to show any errors as far as I can see.
[18:06] <Goose_> There is just nothing showing up when I plug in my usb. It doesn't appear under lsusb either
[18:06] <k1l_> Goose_: uh, if nothing is displayed after you put it in there is alot going wrong.
[18:07] <k1l_> Goose_: try another usb port?
[18:07] <mw46> I found the `-c' option for ssh-add but it looks like it's now default? And I would like to have a `-!c' :-(
[18:07] <Goose_> did that.
[18:07] <Goose_> lemme try something. brb
[18:07] <Ilhami> ACPI errors, what are those?
[18:08] <k1l_> Ilhami: hardware level issues. depends on your exact system and the exact errors what to do
[18:08] <Ilhami> ok let me try to install again where I set acpi=off :)
[18:08] <Ilhami> brb
[18:09] <dracken008> i want to make a backup to a blurry . is it possibly ?? or will it be possibility
[18:10] <Novice201y> Hi. Is Ubuntu spying its users?
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> what's a blurry?
[18:10] <k1l_> Novice201y: now
[18:10] <Cheaterman> Hello, does anyone here know what exporting DRI_PRIME=1 does?
[18:10] <Novice201y> k1l_, I don't get it.
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  you mean like by using locales and cookies?
[18:11] <Cheaterman> If so, could you tell me why exporting it in .profile (to basically bypass the IGC entirely) breaks Unity/Compiz/the whole desktop?
[18:11] <k1l_> Novice201y: sorry, should just be:"no"
[18:11] <Cheaterman> It's likely Unity-related somewhat... This is on 14.04
[18:11] <OerHeks> Novice201y, creepy question, what makes you tink that FUD ?
[18:11] <Cheaterman> It's worth mentioning I'm compositing like maniac on that computer - cube desktop, wobbly windows, etc
[18:11] <dracken008> Blu-ray i men
[18:11] <Novice201y> MonkeyDust, There are big number of articles about Dash sending requests to internet shop without asking a user to do so.
[18:12] <OerHeks> dracken008, sure, you can backup to blueraydisc
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  you can easily disable that
[18:12] <Novice201y> MonkeyDust, Is there more o "tricks" (about privacy leakage) like that on Ubuntu?
[18:13] <k1l_> Novice201y: just set it completly off in the privacy settings. and afaik the canonical server sending the data to amazon was shut down anyways. but you dont say your firefox is spying on you just because it sends your search data to the search pages, do you?
[18:13] <k1l_> Novice201y: there is no tricks on ubuntu.
[18:13] <goose_> Yo, so i rebooted and it works fine
[18:14] <goose_> don't know why that happened
[18:14] <Cheaterman> I asked alis but apparently there's no specific channel for supporting hybrid graphics - therefore I'm asking here (it has to be mentioned I'm working on having the best and smoothest integration with Ubuntu)
[18:14] <k1l_> Novice201y: the search bar clearly says: search online and locally. so there is no trick. just dont get caught by the FUD some anti-ubuntu guys try to push
[18:14] <Novice201y> k1l_, But it's same if You would ask a friend to search for book for You, and in the same time this friends calls local bookshop in Your name to check if they have this book to sell.
[18:14] <Cheaterman> Novice201y: why not?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  just make sure your military and political secrets are in a safe place
[18:15] <chavez> help
[18:15] <Cheaterman> Novice201y: When I call support from my company's behalf, I use my boss's name, not mine
[18:15] <chavez> after install uuntu studio cant't load windows 7
[18:15] <k1l_> Novice201y: again: does firefox spy on you because its sends data you requested? there is no hidden spying going on. its called "online and offline search" so turn "online" off in the privacy settings if you dont like that
[18:15] <Novice201y> Cheaterman, "Sex frenzy in the weekend" could be too private thing too check in other place than friend's bookshellf.
[18:15] <Cheaterman> Novice201y: Then it's likely you wouldn't ask your friend to look for it, and do it yourself.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  ok, but take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[18:16] <k1l_> Novice201y: if you dont want that to be searched dont put it into the online and offline search.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  Facebook knows more about you and your life, than you and your friends do
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> not to menstion Google
[18:17] <Novice201y> Thank You guys for Your points of view on this.
[18:17] <Cheaterman> Anyways :-) back to #OT
[18:18] <Cheaterman> k1l_: I think you suggested me to disable KMS last time, but I got a bit of documentation since then, hence the DRI_PRIME=1
[18:18] <Guest10575> hi
[18:18] <Cheaterman> k1l_: (Direct rendering was off on apps that don't explicitly call the DGC)
[18:19] <Novice201y> I don't want to adwertise other distros, but elementary on its beta page has really clever way to get money without sending request to third parties about "Sex frenzy in the weekend".
[18:20] <ikonia> if you don't want to advertise - why are you doing it ?
[18:20] <Cheaterman> Novice201y: This was certainly meant for ##chat right?
[18:20] <ilhami> hey
[18:20] <ilhami> what should I choose as mount point?
[18:20] <Cheaterman> Novice201y: If it was meant for ##here, please /part
[18:20] <Cheaterman> ilhami: For what?
[18:20] <k1l_> ilhami: what?
[18:20] <ilhami> just "/"?
[18:20] <ilhami> for my partition
[18:20] <Goose_> For what?
[18:20] <Cheaterman> Goose_: ^
[18:21] <k1l_> ilhami: context matters
[18:21] <ilhami> the mount point for my partition. I could install it with acpi = off apparently
[18:21] <Goose_> Are you just trying to install ubuntu alongside windows or something?
[18:21] <ilhami> This is the main partition 600000 MB
[18:21] <ilhami> I chose ext4
[18:22] <Cheaterman> ilhami: Troll?
[18:22] <k1l_> !installation | ilhami
[18:22] <Novice201y> During setup Ubuntu hasn't ask me about root password, but now one app ask me for this password. My user's password doesn't work here.
[18:22] <ilhami> Cheaterman, troll what?
[18:22] <Goose_> That;s what I'm thinking
[18:22] <ikonia> Novice201y: what app
[18:22] <Goose_> You asked for help, then just kinda did it
[18:22] <Cheaterman> ilhami: ACPI=off? What does it have to do with your mount point...
[18:22] <strk> help, I just upgraded and suddenly my desktop theme is completely different ?!
[18:23] <k1l_> Novice201y: ubuntu got no root password. it doesnt even use the root password. it uses sudo instead.
[18:23] <ilhami> Cheaterman, I couldnt install it before
[18:23] <ilhami> you were not here I guess
[18:23] <Goose_> strk_: upgraded how?
[18:23] <strk> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS -- release version/name did not change
[18:23] <ilhami> it got stuck in the installation
[18:23] <Cheaterman> ilhami: Sorry then!
[18:23] <strk> Goose_: just a normal "check for upgrade" and "install all"
[18:23] <strk> coming from the same version, so NOT a dist-upgrade
[18:23] <Cheaterman> ilhami: Makes sense, some laptops need noacpi indeed
[18:23] <ilhami> so mount point "/" is fine?
[18:23] <strk> all icons are 2 colors (black/wite) now
[18:23] <Cheaterman> ilhami: Basically - yes.
[18:23] <Novice201y> ikonia, Some local one.
[18:24] <Goose_> Oh, did you have a custom theme or something installed?
[18:24] <Cheaterman> ilhami: You need at least one /
[18:24] <k1l_> strk: missing video drivers and now running fallback mode?
[18:24] <Goose_> Oh, weird. Lemme check something
[18:24] <strk> Goose_: nope, always used the default one, for "Gnome Flashback"
[18:24] <ilhami> how much space do you usually give your swap area?
[18:24] <strk> k1l_: how do I check that ?
[18:24] <Cheaterman> ilhami: It's recommended to give twice the RAM
[18:24] <Goose_> I gave 1.5x my RAM amaount
[18:24] <Cheaterman> But RAM size would be enough if you need more disk space
[18:24] <ilhami> ok thanks :)
[18:24] <Cheaterman> NP ^__^
[18:24] <ikonia> Novice201y: which one
[18:24] <strk> resolution seems the same, I have an external monitor and the laptop one and both seem the usual resolution and refresh rate
[18:24] <k1l_> ilhami: did you read the links the bot gave you?
[18:25] <k1l_> ilhami: honestly: you said you know all the linux stuff just hours ago. and still you seem to make sourself more issues than there should be.
[18:25] <ilhami> k1l_, no I didnt but I am also done
[18:25] <k1l_> strk: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3
[18:26] <strk> uhm, I tried logging out and back in, tweaking something and I think I found out... "High Contrast" was ON
[18:26] <ilhami> I want to do things the right way. Not just do them
[18:26] <k1l_> strk: ah ok
[18:26] <strk> maybe I accidentally enabled it by randomly clicking while the monitor was still off
[18:26] <Novice201y> k1l_, Thanks. I started it from CLI with sudo, not from GUI, and works. Thanks
[18:26] <leffi> can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working
[18:26] <strk> or (possible) the upgrade changed that ?
[18:26] <Novice201y> ikonia, k1l_ helped. Thanks
[18:26] <k1l_> Novice201y: dont blindly start GUI apps with sudo. that will bring you more issues afterwards
[18:27] <Novice201y> k1l_, There was no other way for this.
[18:27] <ilhami> what have you called your computer? :P
[18:27] <k1l_> Novice201y: i doubt. but since you make secrets about what it is, i am not interessted anymore
[18:28] <ilhami> how do you usually name it?
[18:28] <k1l_> !ot | ilhami
[18:28] <ilhami> lol ok
[18:28] <k1l_> ilhami: and again: reduce the line spamming please. its gettin annoying to others when you flood the channel.
[18:28] <ilhami> shhh
[18:29] <Guest35731> Hello, plz help me, i'm trying to install deeping linux, monitor connected to nvidia card with hdmi cable. after bios i see black screen with text "input no supported", i need set nomodeset, but how switch to text mode?
[18:29] <ikonia> Guest35731: deeping linux ?
[18:29] <Guest35731> deepin linux
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest35731  wrong channel
[18:29] <ikonia> thats not ubuntu
[18:29] <leffi> SD-CARD can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working
[18:30] <_Trullo> error: malformed file, press a key to continue.. what is this?
[18:30] <Guest35731> its ubuntu 14.04 from china
[18:30] <k1l_> deepin linux is some other linux fork.
[18:30] <ikonia> Guest35731: it's not ubuntu
[18:30] <ikonia> Guest35731: they have their own support resources
[18:30] <xangua> Guest35731: ubuntu kylin is the actual ubuntu for china
[18:30] <OerHeks> Guest35731, try in #deepin
[18:30] <Cheaterman> k1l_: O__O what happened
[18:31] <Cheaterman> I thought you'd -q him
[18:31] <Guest35731> deepin is ubuntu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin
[18:31] <k1l_> Cheaterman: yep. and getting insulting in pm afterwards is not compatible with the Code of Conduct. so he is gone
[18:31] <leffi> SD-CARD can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working
[18:31] <ikonia> Guest35731: "BASED" on ubuntu
[18:32] <ikonia> Guest35731: it is not ubuntu - not supported here, no more discussion please
[18:32] <Guest35731> ok
[18:32] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Oh. I didn't realize that one, sorry
[18:32] <xangua> Guest35731: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin
[18:32] <ikonia> Guest35731: thanks
[18:32] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Also, did you read my questions above? It seems like everyone pretty much ignored me for some reason :-/
[18:33] <k1l_> Cheaterman: can you summarize what the issue is?
[18:34] <leffi> SD-CARD can not run a special kind of sd-card! (Extreme 8gb, sandisk 80mb/s) all other cards are working on ubunut. either geparted nor fdisk find this sdcard
[18:34] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Basically - you might remember my hybrid graphics questions from the other day?
[18:35] <k1l_> Cheaterman: no not really, sorry
[18:35] <k1l_> if you summarize others could help to
[18:35] <k1l_> *,too
[18:35] <Cheaterman> I managed to get Steam to work on my cousin's computer, but starting the _whole_ session on dedicated GPU mode kinda gives a black wallpaper, and buggy menus etc
[18:35] <Cheaterman> Like - apparently hybrid graphics require you to export DRI_PRIME=1 before starting the app - then the app will work on the dedicated GPU
[18:36] <Cheaterman> I tried putting it in ~/.profile, and the session becomes kinda buggy
[18:36] <Cheaterman> I managed to get it to work by putting it in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/
[18:36] <Cheaterman> But it might be unstable in case an update to the .deb is released - unlikely on Ubuntu, but still possible right
[18:36] <Cheaterman> Like, a .deb upgrade would likely overwrite my tweaks
[18:37] <Cheaterman> So I have two questions - first, why does starting the whole session with DRI_PRIME doesn't work? It might be worth noting I'm heavily using compositing (compiz-extras, etc)
[18:37] <Cheaterman> And second, do you have any hints on how to make my tweaks update-proof?
[18:39] <OerHeks> Cheaterman, why would an update change your custom config files?
[18:40] <Cheaterman> OerHeks: Because it's not exactly a config file
[18:40] <Cheaterman> It's the .desktop entry in /usr/share/applications/
[18:40] <Cheaterman> Therefore upgrade → removal + install the new pkg → remove my custom .desktop, and put back the stock one
[18:41] <k1l_> Cheaterman: i dont have a nvidia card. and i am not used to prime besides making sure the driver is installed :)
[18:41] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Oh it's an ATI ^^" but apparently the env var is the same :-)
[18:41] <OerHeks> Cheaterman, if you worry, copy that desktopfile and rename it, so it is static
[18:41] <ilhami> why was I banned?
[18:41] <ilhami> for nothing
[18:42] <Cheaterman> OerHeks: That would be an excellent idea, but I'm not very sure how to set up the dock to use my new custom config :-)
[18:42] <Cheaterman> But that's an improvement worth doing, thanks for the suggestion!
[18:42] <freeroute> hi, I'm trying to follow this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940904 - and my current situation looks like this - http://imgur.com/tdq5lRX - http://ub.kpaste.net/7f6 - The files that I want are on the minibuntu_storage but I can't seem to access it. The mounting using cryptsetup doesn't even seem to work - http://ub.kpaste.net/85b365
[18:46] <OerHeks> freeroute, did you install lvm2 tools? sudo apt-get install lvm2
[18:47] <freeroute> OerHeks: yep - http://ub.kpaste.net/ace0
[18:47] <Foxhoundz> ikonia: I don't know!
[18:48] <ikonia> D|nA: don't know what ?
[18:48] <D|nA> ikonia, anything
[18:48] <ikonia> D|nA: sorry, typo
[18:48] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: you don't know what ?
[18:49] <Cheaterman> freeroute: You seem to know what you're doing and you provide good troubleshooting information - I'm really sorry that I don't have any experience with cryptoFS and LVM in general, otherwise I'd happily help you!
[18:51] <freeroute> Cheaterman: heh this is like the 2nd time I'm dealing with something like this, so I can't say that I know what I'm doing yet :p
[18:51] <freeroute> but thanks anyways :)
[18:52] <Cheaterman> freeroute: You're welcome buddy, hopefully you find support and manage to fix your issues ^__^
[18:53] <freeroute> ah, one can only hope (and research further of course!)
[18:54] <javelinanddart> Can someone help me backport systemd from the Utopic repos? I've tried but I run into unresolvable dependency errors and it ended up removing most of the icons in the indicator panel
[18:54] <ikonia> javelinanddart: thats a huge task
[18:54] <ikonia> that is not just a case of backporting the package
[18:54] <ikonia> also systemd is not core in utopic
[18:54] <k1l_> javelinanddart: is it about running systemd in 14.04?
[18:55] <javelinanddart> yes it is about using it as default in 14.04
[18:55] <ikonia> javelinanddart: the distro is not setup for that at all
[18:55] <justusevi> I'm on a chromebook, trying to do X11 forwarding from my ubuntu server. I get that it can't open the display. Do I always have to export DISPLAY=chromebooksIP:0.0?
[18:55] <javelinanddart> I know. But can I do anything to hack it togther?
[18:55] <jide> exit
[18:55] <ikonia> javelinanddart: it would basically be a huge re-write of 14.04
[18:55] <ikonia> javelinanddart: why do you want this ?
[18:56] <ikonia> javelinanddart: also 14.10 does not use systemd either
[18:56] <ikonia> so backporting it from there - is not a good source
[18:56] <Cheaterman> ikonia: Really? I thought it did
[18:56] <k1l_> javelinanddart: that is not "a easy one". you should talk to the guys who try to make systemd as standard. afaik there will be a backport after 16.06 for 14.04.
[18:56] <ikonia> Cheaterman: no
[18:56] <javelinanddart> ikonia: seruously? that much? I know but it can use it as default
[18:56] <ikonia> javelinanddart: yes, keep in mind it's more than just init
[18:56] <k1l_> javelinanddart: its not a simple task. you need to change a lot.
[18:57] <Cheaterman> ikonia: Oh yeah but Ubuntu got upstart right? Like we have OpenRC
[18:57] <javelinanddart> Well, it's a good thing I have too much time on my hands to figure it out.
[18:58] <ikonia> javelinanddart: I strongly advise you not to waste your time on this
[18:58] <javelinanddart> Thanks. This kind of sucks. Oh well
[18:58] <javelinanddart> Cheaterman: Yes we have upstart
[18:58] <k1l_> javelinanddart: talk to the systemd team on ubuntu. maybe they need help
[18:59] <javelinanddart> k1l_: where can I talk to them
[19:00] <javelinanddart> Or maybe I should switch to Arch... Or not. I've tried installing it but I can't use Pacman or yaourt. I think in apt-get :-)
[19:01] <omar_> W MEAN ubuntu
[19:02] <javelinanddart> k1l_: ikonia: thanks again for the help
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> javelinanddart  find the name Martin Pitt, for systemd
[19:02] <k1l_> javelinanddart: if you really want to submit and help the team ask in #ubuntu-devel but mind that is not a "i need a working package" channel
[19:02] <javelinanddart> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[19:03] <javelinanddart> k1l_: yeah you're right, thanks
[19:07] <smallmouse> can someone help adobe items seem to have stopped working on mozilla ?
[19:09] <Cheaterman> smallmouse: it's funny how I have the same issue, although mozilla's self-version-test says I'm uptodate
[19:09] <Cheaterman> (On a different distro that is)
[19:09] <cf-x> smallmouse: When I use adobe flash in firefox I get kernel panics xD
[19:09] <OerHeks> smallmouse, use chrome, with build in pepperflash.
[19:10] <cf-x> smallmouse: yes, im using chrome too only when I need flash :)
[19:10] <smallmouse> OerHeks: dont really want google to track the my entire life :-(
[19:10] <cf-x> smallmouse: My first guess is that you are using google startpage in firefox anyway lol
[19:10] <smallmouse> cf-x: mozilla should really resolve this losing ground to google
[19:10] <OerHeks> There are pages around with a hack to put pepperflash in firefox, but i don't use FF.
[19:10] <smallmouse> cf-x: you are correct
[19:11] <smallmouse> cf-x: oh no its actually duck duck
[19:11] <cf-x> smallmouse: anyway, we can't life without it
[19:11] <xangua> smallmouse: are you saying mozilla should fix adobe software¿
[19:11] <cf-x> smallmouse: ur not using a proxy are you?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> duckduckgo is so discreet, that it's forbidden in China
[19:11] <smallmouse> cf-x: g drive and gmail  has the balance of my life, i wanted to keep something away from google
[19:11] <milamber> smallmouse: there should be a red lego looking icon on the top left of the browser, next to the address bar
[19:12] <milamber> smallmouse: you should be able to click it and allow flash
[19:12] <smallmouse> milamber: thanks, i appear to have solved it..
[19:12] <cf-x> milamber: or he should install adobe flash non free xD
[19:12] <smallmouse> milamber: i removed adobe, apt-get update
[19:12] <smallmouse> and then reinstalled
[19:13] <cf-x> smallmouse: I'm using HTML5 player when possible, works fine too with a strong cpu lol
[19:13] <smallmouse> cf-x: is there one for linux ?
[19:13] <cf-x> smallmouse: it's build inside the browsers, FF and Chrome both support it.
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> smallmouse  https://www.youtube.com/html5
[19:14] <smallmouse> MonkeyDust: thanks
[19:15] <cf-x> I'm having a silly question, is everybody here really using ubuntu? because I've been around here for some time to time but I nearly never use Ubuntu.. xD
[19:15] <smallmouse> cf-x: ubuntu for a number of years..
[19:15] <OerHeks> cf-x, maybe, do you expect 1698 answers?
[19:16] <smallmouse> cf-x: virtual box for the odd windows requirement
[19:16] <smallmouse> cf-x: windows is more stable on virtual box on linux than when it runs as the primary os
[19:17] <xcyclist> I lost my network icon on the top bar menu.
[19:17] <cf-x> OerHeks: Maybe lol
[19:18] <cf-x> smallmouse: meh, not really - depends on what OS your running :) Everyone knows all above 7 is trash
[19:19] <daftykins> smallmouse: that's a ridiculous statement
[19:19] <smallmouse> daftykins: its sure true for my machine
[19:20] <daftykins> perhaps you're not too versed in setting up Windows well - and run an illegal copy
[19:20] <ianorlin> or have something with badly written drivers or something
[19:20] <smallmouse> daftykins: but its some time since i have use windows as a main os, so they may have improved over some time.
[19:20] <cf-x> daftykins: it can be true because vbox is running drivers that will always work - and yes I guess he forgot to setup drivers correctly maybe
[19:20] <smallmouse> daftykins: it just feels moe stable
[19:21] <daftykins> cf-x: that doesn't comment on the stability of the OS, but the experience of the installer :)
[19:21] <daftykins> i see where you're coming from though
[19:21] <rsajdok|away> I try to upgrade 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts I get error http://pastie.org/9896068#29-30 some idea?
[19:21] <daftykins> rsajdok|away: server? ugh foreign language D:
[19:22] <rsajdok|away> daftykins: yes, server
[19:23] <daftykins> well if you'd like to make an English translation link available that'd be handy
[19:24] <cf-x> daftykins: I wouldn't even name that a language xD
[19:25] <smallmouse> daftykins: installation should be straight forward just look at ios
[19:25] <DJones> cf-x: The language is Polish
[19:25] <smallmouse> daftykins: shouldnt need a computer science experience to run an os and get it to work, and have to trash it every 3 months as the os gets too slow
[19:25] <daftykins> smallmouse: that's off topic and irrelevant thanks
[19:26] <daftykins> smallmouse: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to carry on. support only in here.
[19:26] <smallmouse> daftykins: sorry
[19:26] <cf-x> DJones: Wow, ok, thanks :)
[19:27] <DJones> !pl | rsajdok|away The Ubuntu polish channel may be better able to help you in Polish language, but feel free to ask here (but the channel language is English) so may be more difficult to help
[19:27] <cf-x> !help
[19:29] <Cheaterman> DJones: ^__^
[19:30] <DJones> Cheaterman: ?
[19:31] <Cheaterman> DJones: Bliblibli! I loved how you !pl-ed someone, and said what the bot says before it did
[19:31] <Cheaterman> ^__^ that's all
[19:36] <Mobbad> Hi, im having file sharing problems between my xubuntu and win8. I can find the comp and brows it but i cant see any folders, and samba won´t start. Can any one point me in the right direction ?
[19:42] <[RO]Daniel> Mobbad, http://askubuntu.com/questions/107208/how-to-setup-a-lan-between-ubuntu-and-windows
[19:45] <[RO]Daniel> Mobbad, or this http://www.howtogeek.com/176471/how-to-share-files-between-windows-and-linux/
[19:45] <[RO]Daniel> or this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/ubuntu1404-file-sharing-samba/
[19:46] <Mobbad> Thanks gonna cheak it out
[19:52] <Grady> hello, I I cannot get past the login screen, I enter my password, or try to use the guest account, but then the screen shoots black and the prompts me to log in again... no "wrong password" No info at all.... I restarted my pc to refresh after i uninstalled some software and this happened
[19:54] <daftykins> Grady: what did you remove?
[19:56] <linelevel> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04. I open a terminal and run `sudo pm-hibernate`, but nothing happens. Can anyone help?
[19:58] <daftykins> linelevel: all i know about hibernation and sleep, is make sure you have a swap partition the same size / greater than your physical RAM total
[20:01] <Ozymandias42> Hey. Just short little question. I am currently installing Ubuntu on an UEFI Device and I was wondering. I changed the Bootloader Location from the drive itself to it’s EFI Partition. Was that correct or am I in for surprise when I try to boot?
[20:02] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: as in to /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda? sounds like you're booted in legacy mode, as that's not relevant to UEFI installs i don't think
[20:02] <Grady> daftykins: I removed fcitx the languange software for chinese inputs, I downloaded it, installed it, didnt like it, then uninstalled it
[20:02] <daftykins> there should be a FAT partition 300MB+ for /boot
[20:02] <_Trullo> my ubuntu locks.. I got to the xubuntu screen.. and then completely dead.. still got the screen though, but frozen. what do I do?
[20:02] <daftykins> Grady: ok, are you typing from another device?
[20:02] <Grady> yessir
[20:02] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, as in ‘to /dev/sda1’ and I can’t have booted to legacy mode as the device in question doesn’t have one^^
[20:02] <Ozymandias42> *has one
[20:02] <daftykins> Grady: can you log in at the console, TTY1, by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[20:03] <Grady> yessir, im logged into tty1
[20:03] <daftykins> !uefi | Ozymandias42 so just to confirm, you see the white text on black background boot screen as seen here?
[20:04] <daftykins> Grady: ok, can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" and link the resulting URL here? be sure you're running this as your user, not root@hostname
[20:04] <Ozymandias42> unfortunaltey not. I used my own uefi bootloader. so I am pretty sure I am in uefi mode
[20:04] <Grady> btw daftykins, I rolled back the kernel im using, none of them work... i am currently on the oldest one... should I reload and jump on the newest kernel?
[20:04] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: your own? what? :)
[20:05] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, not written by me if you are thinking that. Just one that I used a while ago when I played with Ubuntu on Macs. It’s one where I just have to copy the ISO into the Efi/boot folder and rename it to boot.iso. the rest is magic
[20:07] <Grady> paste.ubuntu.com/10114813/
[20:07] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: so i take it we're not speaking of a mac right now?
[20:07] <Ozymandias42> nope. The preinstalled system is a securebooted win8.1
[20:07] <k1l_> Grady: what is in .xsession-errors?
[20:07] <Ozymandias42> and I am trying to install ubuntu alongside in uefi mode.
[20:07] <daftykins> k1l_: it's 0 size
[20:08] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: did you already use windows disk management to resize the disk, leaving empty space at the end?
[20:08] <k1l_> daftykins: Grady ah yes, seems to be empty
[20:08] <Grady> k1l: Imma just sit here and pretend like i knew what you just asked me
[20:09] <daftykins> k1l_: Grady hmm i don't really see how to proceed with that one, very odd to hear the Guest account is busted too
[20:09] <Cheaterman> Owi /me iz back ^__^ ready for some support
[20:09] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, yes I did. The installation is finishing as we speak. seems I messed the bootloader part up. installation of efi-grub failed.
[20:09] <toan_> hi all, can someone report this bug for me
[20:09] <Cheaterman> toan_: No.
[20:10] <toan_> using vi, if you were to exit vi with command ":;wq!" it will remove the content of the file
[20:10] <Cheaterman> toan_: wut
[20:10]  * Cheaterman tests
[20:10] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: did you partition manually?
[20:10] <toan_> it happens on kubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 10.xx as well
[20:10] <Grady> daftykins: is a ubuntu reinstall in my future? I dont really have anything i need to save
[20:10] <DJones> !behelpful | Cheaterman
[20:11] <Cheaterman> toan_: Apparently it would remove the first line in any case
[20:11] <Cheaterman> DJones: x)
[20:11] <daftykins> Grady: hmm, it's up to you as to how much time you can be bothered to put into a potential fix i guess :) i'm not even a desktop guy so it's likely other volunteers here would have far better ideas
[20:11] <Cheaterman> toan_: I have no idea why though TBH - but here it only removes the first line
[20:11] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, yes i did. The only thing I’ve been confused about was where to install the bootloader to. Since the guides never explicitly said I had to choose the EFI partition. I just assumed that I had to.
[20:11] <Cheaterman> toan_: In any case, it's a vi-related question/bug, not ubuntu-related
[20:12] <Grady> daftykins: everytime i have been here its ended up with me not wanting to troubleshoot anymore and reinstalling haha
[20:12] <Grady> thanks for the help
[20:12] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: well, it should have either auto highlighted the FAT EFI partition and set it to mount as /boot, or you may've needed to. with Windows 8 laptops, you typically need to go into the EFI and select to change the default boot device from "Windows Boot Manager" to the hard disk/SSD device name instead
[20:13] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, a crap. I did just the opposite. I changed it from the root devie to windows boot manager.
[20:13] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: hehe, it was failing when as the disk though?
[20:14] <Cheaterman> DJones: !behelpful daftykins
[20:14] <Cheaterman> :D
[20:14] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, the installtion was running smoothly. and yep, it failed exactly when it tried to install efi-grub
[20:14] <daftykins> Cheaterman: what are you doing?
[20:14] <Ozymandias42> I just do it manually from terminal. should work, too, shouldn’t it?
[20:15] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: what's that from terminal? a grub-install ?
[20:15] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, yes
[20:15] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: hmm, you can always give boot repair a run
[20:15] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[20:16] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, Okay, then I try this. Thank you.
[20:16] <_Trullo> what's a cpu friendly ubuntu version?
[20:16] <daftykins> Ozymandias42: if you save the URL it may create, our resident boot genius (not me) might be available
[20:17] <daftykins> _Trullo: given all computers have a CPU, i'd say they're all CPU friendly :)
[20:17] <daftykins> _Trullo: can you be a little bit more specific?
[20:17] <NymeriaFR> _Trullo, what you means ?
[20:17] <Ozymandias42> daftykins, okidoki. I’ll keep that in mind
[20:17] <_Trullo> I think the latest version I'm running is too big for my computer
[20:17] <_Trullo> I get random locks and shit..
[20:18] <k1l_> _Trullo: what hardware is it?
[20:18] <_Trullo> doing memtest too see if it locks again
[20:18] <k1l_> _Trullo: see "dmesg" or the syslog to get to know what that locks are
[20:18] <_Trullo> it's a intel core 2 3.2ghz
[20:18] <_Trullo> can't even log in
[20:18] <daftykins> nothing wrong with that
[20:19] <NymeriaFR> should be enought
[20:19] <daftykins> perhaps you're trying to use unity on a system without enough RAM
[20:19] <_Trullo> 4gb enough?
[20:19] <NymeriaFR> Yes
[20:20] <_Trullo> test 7 failed..
[20:20] <k1l_> _Trullo: that is fine. run memtest if that is ok
[20:20] <daftykins> _Trullo: top suspects: 1) bad RAM, 2) bad hard disk 3) bad ubuntu ISO download 4) bad media (DVD / flash drive) etc
[20:20] <daftykins> _Trullo: oh, are you getting lots of red lines?
[20:20] <k1l_> *the dualcore and 4gb ram is fine. if memtest brings up errors that is not fine
[20:20] <_Trullo> 1 so far
[20:20] <daftykins> yeah even 1 is very bad
[20:21] <daftykins> _Trullo: are you experienced with hardware? i.e. removing RAM?
[20:21] <_Trullo> so just replace ram then?
[20:21] <daftykins> if you have multiple RAM modules, you can remove one and memtest again to see if maybe only one of say, 2+ are faulty
[20:21] <yoda> so how does one turn off heap based randomization in linux and windows based systems ... not stack based randomization HEAP
[20:23] <_Trullo> https://www.flickr.com/photos/gtpp52/sets/72157623475451366/ this is the computer.. I'll replace the ram
[20:24] <NymeriaFR> azazerezsqxdsqdzedrftgfedaqzsrfta&qzsedrfgthyugttttttttttttttttPÀOIUJOIPÀOIKOÇIOÇIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBHJG102.3
[20:24] <NymeriaFR> +65478
[20:24] <NymeriaFR> Oups
[20:24] <NymeriaFR> sorry guys
[20:25]  * daftykins sharpens a penguin for NymeriaFR 
[20:25] <Mobbad> NymeriaFR,    cat jump on the keyboard :D
[20:26] <_Trullo> no he didn't
[20:26] <_Trullo> I'd like to see a cat produce 102.3 :)
[20:27] <NymeriaFR> Exactly
[20:27] <NymeriaFR> I love my cat but sometimes
[20:28] <daftykins> off topic, people.
[20:29] <MarkLessanger> so I think I a really annoying bug in ubuntu 14.04. Do you all have the problem when you install ubuntu with LUKS full disk encryption that your keyboard drivers don't seem to load when you need to put your encryption password in?
[20:30] <OerHeks> usb keyboard, most likely?
[20:30] <daftykins> nope, though i'm not masochistic enough to use FDE. i'd bet you're tripping up on a USB keyboard issue
[20:30] <MarkLessanger> yes
[20:30] <daftykins> OerHeks: ^5!
[20:30] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: check your system BIOS for USB legacy support options. likely they are conflicting
[20:30] <daftykins> or try a replug
[20:31] <MarkLessanger> tried replug. the numlock light stays on and none of the other keys respond.
[20:31] <MarkLessanger> Ill check BIOS settings though real quick.
[20:31] <NymeriaFR> Guys, I have a problem with unity ! Sometimes when I start my computer unity-lens-application does not work
[20:31] <NymeriaFR> I have to restart my computer
[20:35] <NymeriaFR> Have you any tips for restart only application lens ?
[20:37] <Ozymandias42> NymeriaFR, you could do a little research with ps to see if it has it’s own process. Than you could kill and restart it. If you’re not so lucky it’s part of the whole dash and you have to restart the whole thing
[20:38] <p3nt3st> hi
[20:38] <daftykins> hello
[20:39] <p3nt3st> i have problem in ubuntu 14.04
[20:39] <daftykins> !details
[20:39] <Seveas> p3nt3st: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[20:39] <NymeriaFR> Ozymandias42, It's a knowed bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/872219
[20:40] <daftykins> Seveas: don't waste peoples time.
[20:40] <NymeriaFR> I'm just looking for a tips for rebooting the lens
[20:41] <Ozymandias42> NymeriaFR, if it’s a known bug. just install the patch or update if there is any. You said you’re using 14.04 would updating be a problem?
[20:41] <daftykins> suggesting to upgrade to non-LTS would be an unwise suggestion imo :)
[20:42] <OerHeks> NymeriaFR,  maybe answer #38 works for you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/872219
[20:42] <p3nt3st> i cannot setting tmux for split screen
[20:43] <p3nt3st> guide me to setting tmux please
[20:43] <NymeriaFR> OerHeks, Thank you, I will keep it in mind
[20:43] <PDG1> where should I go to troubleshoot sound issues?
[20:44] <NymeriaFR> Next time this problem appear, i will try it
[20:44] <Prezident> PDG1: huh? try alsamixer in terminal and see if anything is muted
[20:44] <Seveas> p3nt3st: ctrl-b "
[20:44] <PDG1> Prezident, looks like everything is on
[20:47] <p3nt3st> Saveas: oh thank
[20:49] <PDG1> Prezident, I've been on the googles for most of the morning trying to get this working. It's coming through x 970 HDMI port to my TV
[20:50] <p3nt3st> hey how to swap screen tmux
[20:51] <daftykins> p3nt3st: use a freely available guide online from google to learn how to use software, don't rely on users time. Try this - http://www.sitepoint.com/tmux-a-simple-start/
[20:52] <Seveas> p3nt3st: c-b { / c-b }
[20:52] <Seveas> p3nt3st: the manpage lists all keybindings...
[20:53] <p3nt3st> Thank a lot
[20:59] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[21:00] <daftykins> wb
[21:00] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: i didn'tk now you were in this channel too
[21:00] <daftykins> oh yeah i usually see you in kodi
[21:01] <daftykins> or something
[21:01] <totesmuhgoats> well, i'm trying to figure out why i don't have a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv script
[21:01] <daftykins> saw someone refer to that the other day, i wonder if it's down to virtualbox changing startup script handling
[21:01] <totesmuhgoats> i did apt-get --purge virtualbox*; apt-get install virtualbox
[21:02] <daftykins> no clue myself - i would poke the virtualbox people in #vbox i think it is, possibly ##
[21:02] <totesmuhgoats> yea, i ownder if it is simply not included in the package anymore
[21:02] <totesmuhgoats> i can't type today
[21:02] <daftykins> are you missing the kernel modules?
[21:02] <totesmuhgoats> i seem to be missing vboxdrv
[21:02] <totesmuhgoats> but i only guess that because modprobe vboxdrv fails
[21:02] <totesmuhgoats> lsmod shows nothing vbox related
[21:03] <totesmuhgoats> but i figure that only shows loaded modules
[21:03] <totesmuhgoats> i did install virtualbox-dkms
[21:03] <daftykins> well like i say, shortest route may be to ask people that are in its' channel...
[21:03] <totesmuhgoats> i saw it build the module, it failed to run the script at the end though, because the init.d script doesn't exist
[21:03] <MarkLessanger> legacy support is indeed enabled
[21:03] <totesmuhgoats> yea, i'll give it a go
[21:04] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: so, you toggled it?
[21:04] <totesmuhgoats> i came here because i thought maybe there was some apt magic i could use to search for it, i tried dpkg -s
[21:04] <MarkLessanger> no it was on by default
[21:04] <OerHeks> totesmuhgoats, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` might do the trick >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue
[21:05] <p3nt3st> exit
[21:05] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: right, and that's what i said was likely the problem... ?
[21:06] <MarkLessanger> oh! that fact that it is on. What does the legacy support even offer?
[21:06] <totesmuhgoats> OerHeks: thanks, i know for a fact i have linux-headers installed because i did it manually, but there's no harm in trying again
[21:07] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: USB keyboard support provided by the BIOS for USB functionality prior to OS load
[21:07] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: so in essence, there's a war for control of your USB peripherals at boot right now :)
[21:08] <mohsenmohiey> في حد بيتكلم عربي
[21:08] <MarkLessanger> omg, wonder who will win. So if I turn legacy support off I will still be able to access my BIOS via keyboard right?
[21:09] <MarkLessanger> You said perOS so that raised a concern. I am using an UEFI BIOS if that matters
[21:09] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: go and try it
[21:09] <daftykins> :)
[21:09] <daftykins> all will be fine.
[21:09] <MarkLessanger> lol thanks daftykins
[21:10] <MarkLessanger> you have helped out quite a bit.
[21:10] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: seem to have found the problem, or at least part of the problem
[21:10] <daftykins> well, i hope so
[21:10] <totesmuhgoats> still don't know why the init script is missing, but reinstalling the kernel headers dkms tries to do it's thing
[21:10] <totesmuhgoats> log shows that one of the vbox objects fails to build properly
[21:10] <MarkLessanger> brb again, ill let you know if it ends up working.
[21:11] <totesmuhgoats> OerHeks: thanks for the suggestion, it has yielded something that will prove helpful :)
[21:11] <OerHeks> totesmuhgoats, great, have fun!
[21:12] <MarkLessanger> could have something to do with my keyboard being in a USB 3.0 slot too....
[21:13] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: oh yes that would be very unwise
[21:13] <Seveas> daftykins: why that?
[21:14] <backbox> kaesar
[21:14] <daftykins> Seveas: seriously?
[21:14] <backbox> hallo brother...
[21:14] <Seveas> daftykins: yes. It's supposed to be backwards compatible, no?
[21:15] <MarkLessanger> driver support
[21:15] <[1]MN> `/server irc.freenode.net
[21:15] <daftykins> welcome to USB 3 and its' quirks in real world implementations
[21:15] <daftykins> [1]MN: you're already on it
[21:16] <backbox> Kaesar
[21:16] <backbox> hallo I am new comer..here
[21:16] <daftykins> backbox: please private message or take your chat to another channel if you wish to talk to that user.
[21:16] <flexus> i'm using supercollider software. installing some extension made it unusable. some class library problem. does anybody know how to correct it ?
[21:17] <daftykins> backbox: ok, this is a support channel for Ubuntu - general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <[1]MN> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <Seveas> flexus: at the risk of stating the obvious: have you remove the extension yet?
[21:19] <MarkLessanger> at the absolute worst I can just encrypt my home folder and any files I want to keep safe. its mostly programs that I write anyway. And I can easily encrypt those.
[21:19] <MarkLessanger> instead of using luks for the full disk encryption. I have always done it though in the past.
[21:19] <flexus> Seveas, i tried to lookup all the files, deleted the stuff in /usr/share and found stuff in /home/. maybe there are more files to delete
[21:19] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: what's wrong with just trying a USB 2 port and toggling the BIOS option? why all this talk? action! ACTION! :)
[21:20] <flexus> Seveas, it seemed supercollider compiled something in the system during startup
[21:21] <Seveas> fun... maybe remove supercollider completely and reinstall?
[21:21] <Seveas> (I've never used supercollider, so can't really give more useful answers)
[21:22] <flexus> afterwards i read that installing extensions in supercollider is a problem
[21:22] <MarkLessanger> lol waiting for ubuntu to reinstall. was just throwing ideas out there
[21:22] <flexus> i didnt really need the extension. tried to purge supercollider
[21:22] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: oh i thought this was a working install.
[21:23] <flexus> Seveas, np, maybe i can figure it out myself
[21:24] <hydrocat> hello ?
[21:24] <Seveas> hi!
[21:24] <hydrocat> :D cool !
[21:25] <Seveas> What Ubuntu emergency can we help you with today hydrocat?
[21:25] <hydrocat> so.. this is how IRC is like :)
[21:25] <hydrocat> oh.. nothing, im just messing around with a irc client and it pointed me into coming here
[21:25] <Seveas> heh
[21:26] <Seveas> Well, this is ubuntu's support channel. For more random nonsense chat, you're more than welcome to join us in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:26] <hydrocat> Oh, i see
[21:27] <hydrocat> well, i`ll find a better channel for a private chat :)
[21:27] <hydrocat> thank you for your hospitality !
[21:28] <lord4163> Can I prevent shutdowns if a cronjob is running?
[21:28] <[1]MN> nope you cannot
[21:29] <lord4163> [1]MN: Why not?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> lord4163  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[21:29] <MarkLessanger> lol trashed it after 3 reinstalls
[21:29] <[1]MN> shutdown when given ire init6 it would signal all the process to
[21:30] <lord4163> MonkeyDust: Well I got a backup script, but when that runs I don't want someone to shutdown the computer.
[21:30] <[1]MN> be shutdown first and then it would completley shut it down
[21:30] <Seveas> lord4163: you can make the cronjob chmod -x the relevant binaries (initctl, shutdown reboot etc...)
[21:30] <excelsiora> hey, 15 year old Macbook, worth trying to install Lubuntu on?
[21:30] <Seveas> though that would qualify as a nasty hack and still won't prevent someone from pulling the plug :)
[21:31] <Seveas> excelsiora: no. Worth throwing in the bin.
[21:31] <[1]MN> lord4163 that should be scheduled accordingly else any one with super user access can proceed with powering off
[21:31] <excelsiora> My thoughts, but wanted to see if that was the concensus of the Ubuntu support channel...
[21:32] <malvores> i just read... i don't participate much
[21:32] <ThinkT510> excelsiora: if you think you can get use out of it then there is no harm in trying
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> excelsiora  if you like experiments, try this http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm
[21:33] <lord4163> Seveas: Maybe I can add something to the shutdown script in the mate desktop?
[21:33] <daftykins> exekias: 15yo sounds like it'd be PowerPC, correct?
[21:33] <daftykins> oops
[21:33] <daftykins> excelsiora: ^
[21:33] <daftykins> exekias: sorry, bad highlight
[21:34] <excelsiora> thanks guys
[21:34] <excelsiora> puppy tho, really?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> excelsiora  it me unusable foor PPC, as daftykins suggests (or seems to suggest)
[21:35] <Puck6633> I'm trying to set up an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system with a KVM switch, but when I switch away from the system and back the keyboard and mouse no longer work. Am I doing something wrong?
[21:36] <daftykins> excelsiora: i would have to agree with euthanising this museum piece
[21:36] <Puck6633> If I reboot with the switch set to the Ubuntu machine the keyboard and mouse work fine.
[21:37] <Pree> Puck6633 what is LTS system?
[21:37] <ThinkT510> !lts | Pree
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> Pree  lts is long term support
[21:37] <Puck6633> Both devices are USB, and the switch is this one if it helps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817399032
[21:38] <lord4163> Seveas: this may actually not be needed because my backup utility can handle interupts
[21:38] <Puck6633> The other machine (this one) is Windows 7 and it detects both inputs well enough when I switch.
[21:42] <Pree> MonkeyDust Thanks
[21:45] <MarkLessanger> well it worked. I set legacy mode to auto detect. That way if I ever need it for some reason it will be available to me.
[21:48] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: huzzah \o/
[21:48] <MarkLessanger> lol thanks for the help, ill add this advice to my repertoire
[21:49] <MarkLessanger> in case I ever need to pass it on to some one else.
[21:49] <daftykins> MarkLessanger: :) no problemo
[21:49] <daftykins> i like the easy ones
[21:50] <MarkLessanger> Some of these new features are kind of annoying but I do not miss the days where you had to recompile the kernel for every little change you wanted to make lol
[21:50] <MarkLessanger> ill take the minor inconveniences
[21:51] <django> Foxandxss: Well, my nick is based on my real name, and I'm not even a
[21:52] <django> oops
[21:59] <DamienM> hi
[21:59] <DamienM> anyone here?
[22:00] <DamienM> ?'
[22:00] <ThinkT510> plenty of people are here
[22:00] <DamienM> lol
[22:03] <cf-x> I'm here
[22:05] <foobarbaz> Hi Ubuntu, just demonstrating IRC to a potential buyer.
[22:05] <foobarbaz> Talk to me
[22:05] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | foobarbaz
[22:05] <cf-x> hello foobarbaz
[22:06] <foobarbaz> thanks!
[22:06] <cf-x> foobarbaz: your welcome :)
[22:08] <excelsio1a> Hi, foobarbaz, welcome to Ubuntu
[22:13] <Apachez> "buyer"?
[22:13] <Apachez> so you sell "IRC"?
[22:13] <daftykins> !ot
[22:13] <Puck6633> Managed to solve my problem. Switching to a tty mode revealed the error "usbhid 2-1.6:1.2: can't add hid device: -71" which when I googled it turned up results suggesting editing the BIOS USB settings. Turning on EHCI Hand-off in the BIOS allows the keyboard and mouse to switch normally! :D
[22:14] <ThinkT510> !yay | Puck6633
[22:38] <chebit> Agent Smith ... lol
[22:39] <chebit> Agent Smioth you are virus !
[22:44] <lestad> hello
[22:44] <Tg1> hi
[22:45] <bruxC> anyone running a media server on a VM that's on a linux os?
[22:45] <lestad> has smb?
[22:45] <bruxC> kind of a really specific question.
[22:45] <bruxC> yeah.
[22:45] <lestad> how run mongo under openvz?
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | bruxC
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> !ask | bruxC
[22:51] <bruxC> Yeah I didn't ask to ask a question.
[22:51] <bruxC> !ask | MonkeyDust
[22:52] <lestad> exit
[22:52] <Shadow_x23> Abend gibt es für Ubuntu ein Programm welches die Bestandteile vom PC wiedergibt (was für eine Grafikkarte verbaut wurde, Soundkarte etc.)
[22:52] <daftykins> bruxC: can you be more specific?
[22:52] <daftykins> !english | Shadow_x23
[22:52] <daftykins> Shadow_x23: #ubuntu-de otherwise
[22:53] <msdaisy> !german | Shadow_x23
[22:53] <k1l_> Shadow_x23: hier ist der englische kanal. aber "lshw" suchst du :)
[22:54] <bruxC> daftykins, sure. I currently run plex (and other apps) on ubuntu 14.04 server. the server is hosted in an esxi 5.5 environment. I allocated a bunch of ram and a 2 cores. for whatever reason, I am having issues with chromecast streaming to this VM ubuntu setup. However, I have no issues if I connect my windows plex (physical) server to chromecast.
[22:54] <anonymous__> hello
[22:54] <bruxC> So I'd like to know i anyone has had similar issues with plex on a linux os that's ran on a vm and hosted on an esxi host.
[22:55] <anonymous__> hello_
[22:55] <anonymous__> i need help
[22:56] <daftykins> bruxC: hmm, tough one that given it's involving much greater influencing factors than solely being an ubuntu query. is it the only VM powered on?
[22:56] <bruxC> Currently the only VM powered on. I wanted to make sure that no other vms were influencing this issue.
[22:57] <ghone3> Is it easter today?
[22:57] <dsdude> Hey guys I have a quick question
[22:57] <daftykins> ghone3: unless the rabbit is running Ubuntu, that question is off topic.
[22:58] <daftykins> bruxC: i'm more a Kodi user so - if Plex on the server is the backend, is the chromecast in the TV pulling over the content?
[22:59] <ghone3> Oh.  Wait, is there some sort of calendar program in Ubuntu that keeps track of holidays in major world religions?
[22:59] <bruxC> I'm not entirely sure how chromecast works.
[22:59] <bruxC> It's an HDMI plug-in that runs on Wi-Fi.
[22:59] <bruxC> so an user can fire up a google chrome browser tab and install the chromecast extension. once installed, you can stream your tabs.
[22:59] <dsdude> I have a second t TB HDD I want to install linux onto, if I partition 200 gb and install the grub bootloader on/dev/sdb (which would be my second hard drive), could I just boot linux through the bios by selecting the hard drive its on? or would I need to use the entire 1 TB drive for linux and put the bootloader on /dev/sdb to boot from the bios
[23:00] <bruxC> Plex has a chromecast icon that you can use as well which is what seems to be the issue. It's almost like the vm is bottlenecked by something.
[23:00] <daftykins> bruxC: ok but that goes from for example, a user's laptop in front of them direct to the device - how does Plex fit into this?
[23:00] <mikahil> good resources for new ubuntu phone?
[23:00] <bruxC> Plex is where the media resides.
[23:00] <mikahil> noted
[23:01] <k1l_> bruxC: see this http://www.reddit.com/r/Chromecast/comments/1umk7t/lets_make_this_the_last_how_do_i_play_local/
[23:01] <SailorR> I have a problem
[23:01] <SailorR> recently installed ubuntu and
[23:01] <SailorR> it says im connected to my wifi
[23:01] <k1l_> mikahil: by it from bq :)  more infos in #ubuntu-touch
[23:01] <bruxC> so plex is 172.20.2.1, laptop is 172.20.2.10, and chromecast is 172.20.2.20. Laptop will go to 172.20.2.1:32400/web (plex web client). Laptop will press a plex button. Plex button will shoot over to chromecast.
[23:02] <SailorR> but when I open firefox it wont let me go to any websites
[23:02] <SailorR> I type in google.com and it wont let me press enter
[23:02] <NymeriaFR> hum
[23:02] <NymeriaFR> is firefox use any proxy ?
[23:03] <SailorR> nope
[23:03] <SailorR> def not
[23:03] <NymeriaFR> edit -> preference -> advanced -> network -> setting
[23:03] <NymeriaFR> check
[23:03] <k1l_> bruxC: the chromecast setup and workflow is quite special. i think you will have more luck asking the chromecast community to sort a way that suits you
[23:03] <daftykins> bruxC: ok, have you tried different format videos?
[23:03] <NymeriaFR> (in firefox)
[23:03] <SailorR> ok
[23:04] <bruxC> I have.
[23:04] <bruxC> k1l_, I figured. I'm currently in their IRC but it's quite dead.
[23:05] <bruxC> I guess I was looking to see if there is perhaps a setting I missed or a specific configuration I should shoot for, for the VM ubuntu server I have configured
[23:05] <bruxC> But your'e right, this probably isn't the right place for the question.
[23:05] <SailorR> no proxy
[23:05] <SailorR> NymeriaFR
[23:05] <daftykins> bruxC: ah yes, the "echo 0 > stop_working_for_bruxC" command ;)
[23:06] <daftykins> bruxC: so i take it XviD/MPEG2 vs. HD files made no difference?
[23:06] <bruxC> I've only tried mp4 and mkv
[23:07] <NymeriaFR> hum
[23:07] <daftykins> bruxC: those are containers, not codecs
[23:07] <NymeriaFR> in your console
[23:07] <NymeriaFR> try  to type : "ping 8.8.8.8"
[23:07] <bruxC> sorry.
[23:07] <daftykins> NymeriaFR: it'd be a lot less spammy for everyone if you could restrict your advice to nice single lines instead of the same spam our helpees generate :)
[23:07] <bruxC> I'm not sure about the question then.
[23:08] <SailorR> NymeriaFR it 40s
[23:08] <SailorR> 404s
[23:08] <daftykins> bruxC: Plex offers video transcode capabilities, trying a native format would have a lower overhead and might play smoother/better on the device.
[23:08] <bruxC> what is classified as a native format?
[23:08] <NymeriaFR> Have you something like : PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[23:08] <NymeriaFR> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=33.3 ms
[23:08] <NymeriaFR>  ??
[23:09] <daftykins> bruxC: whatever the chromecast supports, which i don't know.
[23:09] <bruxC> I don't think chromecast works like that though.. I mean, I could be completely wrong.
[23:10] <daftykins> bruxC: ah well, you're in #plex i take it?
[23:10] <SailorR> NymeriaFR  one sec i just ave to plug it in again
[23:10] <k1l_> bruxC: please see my reddit link which explains a lot of your questions.
[23:14] <SailorR> yea
[23:14] <SailorR> I get
[23:14] <SailorR> 64 bytes of data
[23:14] <SailorR> NymeriaFR
[23:15] <daftykins> SailorR: ctrl+C to stop it.
[23:15] <SailorR> done
[23:15] <NymeriaFR> Okay
[23:15] <NymeriaFR> Now try to type : "ping google.com"
[23:16] <SailorR> ok
[23:16] <SailorR> same thing
[23:16] <SailorR> 64 bytes
[23:17] <SailorR> I also tried to purge firefox and reinstall but
[23:17] <SailorR> it 404d
[23:17] <daftykins> SailorR: this is on the affected machine, which isn't connected by any other method? (e.g. wired network cable)
[23:18] <SailorR> yes
[23:18] <NymeriaFR> It's weird. You can ping 8.8.8.8 and google.com (that mean you have an internet connection and a dns resolver valid)
[23:18] <SailorR> its just connected via wifi
[23:18] <SailorR> NymeriaFR I know im thinking its someting to do with firefox but idk
[23:19] <whippy> Can someone help me with a sudoers edit to restrict a group to a list of commands? (trying: DEVELOPERS ALL=NOPASSWD: DEPLOY_COMMANDS)
[23:20] <NymeriaFR> is "wget google.com" return positive message ?
[23:21] <SailorR> checking
[23:21] <SailorR> yes
[23:21] <SailorR> it works
[23:22] <teeheesh> echo $shell
[23:22] <teeheesh> ups
[23:23] <NymeriaFR> hum
[23:23] <NymeriaFR> try to type : "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit && ifconfig | pastebinit"
[23:24] <SailorR> ok
[23:24] <NymeriaFR> send me the link send by thoses command
[23:24] <whippy> I believe the aliases are set up correctly but members of DEVELOPERS still cannot execute the commands.
[23:25] <SailorR> NymeriaFR it says
[23:25] <SailorR> failed to fetch
[23:25] <SailorR> 404 not found IP 91.189.91.23:80
[23:26] <SailorR> some index files failed to download
[23:26] <NymeriaFR> Currently, are you under ubuntu ?
[23:26] <SailorR> yes
[23:26] <whippy> Can someone help me with a sudoers edit to restrict a group to a list of commands? (trying: DEVELOPERS ALL=NOPASSWD: DEPLOY_COMMANDS)
[23:26] <NymeriaFR> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit
[23:27] <NymeriaFR> is it working ?
[23:27] <SailorR> one sec
[23:27] <SailorR> it looked like it was then same message failed to fetch
[23:29] <NymeriaFR> There is something I don't understand
[23:29] <ghhofstetter> hello, after installing steam I am getting an open gl driver error, I beleive its because I switched graphics cards (the one currently doesnt work well with what I am trying to play), the game plays with the x.org driver, but horribly so I want to switch to a proprietary driver, but then I get that error... anyone know how to download the upates for steam on the driver and any way to get rid of this opengl error?
[23:29] <NymeriaFR> can you past me on past ubuntu the result of "ifconfig" ?
[23:30] <SailorR> yes
[23:31] <SailorR> hmm
[23:31] <SailorR> guess theres a prob
[23:31] <SailorR> not sure how to do that lol without internet
[23:31] <SailorR> im on windows now on IRC
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[23:32] <NymeriaFR> I think you have not internet
[23:32] <NymeriaFR> if you can't make un "apt-get upgrade" that mean your are not connected to internet
[23:32] <SailorR> hm
[23:32] <NymeriaFR> But you can ping google, that is weird
[23:33] <kostkon> ghhofstetter, what's the card, what's the error
[23:33] <NymeriaFR> That why I said there is something I can't understand
[23:34] <cachito> Hi
[23:34] <NymeriaFR> Hi
[23:35] <cachito> I have nothing to ask
[23:36] <ghhofstetter> the card I am trying to use is Nvidia legacy binary driver 304.... the error i get is  could not find opengl entry point 'glgeterror'! either your vido card is unsupported or your open gldriver needs to be updated
[23:36] <ghhofstetter> the thing is how do i update it?
[23:36] <kostkon> ghhofstetter, which game are you trying to run
[23:36] <ghhofstetter> dota2
[23:38] <dacorr> Perhaps the connection is allowing ICMP packets for the ping but not DNS look ups. presuming Google is used more often it is likely to be cached and does not need to look it up. Have you tried using nslookup for ubuntu.com
[23:39] <kostkon> ghhofstetter, on its page it gives nvidia 310 as a requirement http://store.steampowered.com/app/570
[23:41] <ghhofstetter> ok, well i also tried it with the 331, and i get the same error
[23:41] <tunafish_> 14.10, laptop, touchpad mostly doesn't work, elantouch, works on win, works for about a few reboots after win boot. Any ideas? its not on in "/proc/bus/input/devices"
[23:44] <kostkon> ghhofstetter, did you reboot after installing the driver
[23:45] <ghhofstetter> no, that could solve a lot of problems huh?
[23:45] <ghhofstetter> brb