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juan_alguien que hable espanol01:34
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juan_i whant to ask if there is any tutorial about ubuntustudio for the audio production part_01:38
Jmainguyubuntu studio is gonna make my jam session tomorrow alot of fun02:33
Jmainguybecause I broke my only pedal, and the guitar effects on ubuntustudio are awesome02:33
sadsambuenos dias12:47
MateMicha73Hi there ! Does anyone know how to use 2USB Microfones with Jack ? Is there any how to or something ?17:42
holsteini wouldnt17:42
holsteinbut, you would set it up as a "virtual alsa device" AFAIK17:42
holsteinhttp://manual.ardour.org/setting-up-your-system/using_more_than_one_audio_device/17:42
MateMicha73but you think it's better to use a audio interface ?17:43
holstein"better" is always a matter of opinion, and use case17:43
holsteini dont think anyone will disagree, those USB device preamps are sub-par..17:44
holsteini personally dont get them, since, they are "unitasking".. and mostly for podcast application17:44
holsteinbut, you *can*..17:44
holsteini would expect a hassle setting up, and a hit in performance, and dealing with the hardware limitations as you would on any operating system, with those devices17:45
MateMicha73ah ok i understand...17:45
MateMicha73ty17:45
holsteinsure.. check #opensourcemusicians for more input/opinions.. cheers17:46
MateMicha73cya17:46
keithzg_tabletSo, if I have an input device showing up fine in PulseAudio (can see the volume meter jumping in response to input on my mic), and I have PulseAudio loading the jack modules to create a sink and a source that I then see in qjackctl . . . how do I actually get that audio on the PulseAudio side of things to be heard by anything on the jack side of things?21:19
Jmainguyyou can use patchage to assign inputs to outputs and such22:11
Jmainguythats what I do with my emu161622:11
keithzg_tabletJmainguy: hmm, that looks promising, but it doesn't seem to see the input device in question22:19
Jmainguythats not good22:19
Jmainguynot sure how it picks them up, but they really should be showing in there22:20
keithzg_tabletOnly place I see it is on the PulseAudio side of things :(22:20
JmainguyI think that means jack isnt aware of it22:21
Jmainguybut if pulse audio sees it22:21
JmainguyI think pulse audio is an input/output in patchage22:22
JmainguyI might be making that last part up22:22
Jmainguyyeah I dunno22:22
keithzg_tabletWell, kindof. I have PulseAudio loading the sink and source jack modules22:22
keithzg_tabletso Patchage sees *those*22:22
Jmainguyso point the output of pulseaudio22:23
keithzg_tabletSo what I need to do is somehow connect the input that PulseAudio sees with what JACK sees as "PulseAudio JACK source"22:23
Jmainguyat the input of whatever you have in jack your trying to get it to work with22:23
keithzg_tabletI mean sure, I get that in theory.22:23
keithzg_tabletBut how to do that in practice I have no clue.22:23
Jmainguyin patchage22:23
Jmainguydo you see the jack thing, you want pulse audio piping into22:24
Jmainguyit should have an input and an output on it22:24
Jmainguythen you basically click on the output of pulse audio in patcage, and draw a line to the input of the jack input22:24
Jmainguyand it draws a line between them22:24
keithzg_tabletUmm.22:24
keithzg_tabletThe only PulseAudio stuff in patchage is "PulseAudio JACK Sink" and "PulseAudio JACK Source"22:25
Jmainguyah22:25
Jmainguyso what on the jack side of things, do you see in patchage22:26
keithzg_tabletI see PulseAudio JACK Sink is wired into system(playback_1,playback_2). Conversely PulseAudio JACK Source is wired into system capture_1 and capture_2. Those are each in turn wired into Qtractor (capture into in, playback into out)22:28
Jmainguyyeah that sounds pretty solid22:30
JmainguyOn my system, playback 1 is like left ear, playback 2 is right ear, or something like that22:31
Jmainguyso I use both and I get stereo22:31
JmainguyI think I just goofed around with mine until I finally got the audio I wanted22:32
keithzg_tabletI just don't even see where I could goof around with it :( Everything's all connected up on the JACK side, and I have no idea how to tell PulseAudio "hey, take this line in and spit it out over here"22:32
keithzg_tabletI would've thought it'd be simple, but either it really isn't or my google-fu is just weak today22:33
keithzg_tablet(for the record, patchage looks exactly like this for me: http://www.ualberta.ca/~keithz/tmp/patchage_situation.png )22:34
keithzg_tabletIf only something like qjackctl or patchage existed for PulseAudio, this'd be so simple . . . and here I thought PulseAudio was invented to try and make things simpler and more user-friendly, arghhh22:37
Jmainguyyeah pulseaudio is awesome and terrible all at once22:37
Jmainguythat really should be working22:39
Jmainguyif I am reading the diagram right22:39
Jmainguyactually22:39
Jmainguydraw a line from qtractor out to pulse audio jack source22:40
Jmainguysee if that does anything22:40
keithzg_tabletHmm, "unable to find port" 'jack:11' to connect"22:44
Jmainguygeez, thats weird22:45
JmainguyYeah I am pretty nub22:45
Jmainguyif anyone else in here wakes up, they might know more then I do22:45
Jmainguypacmd load-module module-jack-source channels=2; pacmd load-module module-jack-sink channels=2;22:46
JmainguyI have that script on my system, I dunno what it does22:46
Jmainguybut there it is22:46
keithzg_tabletAlready done on my end, actually.22:46
Jmainguynice lol22:46
Jmainguyyeah I guess that makes the source and sink22:47
keithzg_tabletYeah22:47
keithzg_tabletughhh at this point I'm sorely tempted to just purge PulseAudio and try to get things working without it.22:51
Jmainguyyeah pulse audio is a pain22:55
keithzg_tabletHmmph, even with pulse uninstalled and the laptop rebooted, still no audio. Clearly something else is going wrong here.23:00
keithzg_tabletOMFG FINALLY23:09
keithzg_tabletheh23:09
keithzg_tabletNot even entirely sure what I did to make it work now. Purging PulseAudio seems to have been part of it.23:10
Jmainguylol nice man23:10
JmainguyI cant remember if I purged pulse audio on mine23:11
Jmainguybut that does sound familiar23:11
keithzg_tabletYeah I think I did that back in the day, last time I had things set up for audio recording. I guess I was just hoping that PulseAudio had gotten better in the, like, two years since.23:12
keithzg_tabletApparently not . . . now I'm a bit more pessimistic about systemd :P23:12

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