[01:34] alguien que hable espanol [01:35] !es | juan_ [01:35] juan_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [01:38] i whant to ask if there is any tutorial about ubuntustudio for the audio production part_ [02:33] ubuntu studio is gonna make my jam session tomorrow alot of fun [02:33] because I broke my only pedal, and the guitar effects on ubuntustudio are awesome [12:47] buenos dias [17:42] Hi there ! Does anyone know how to use 2USB Microfones with Jack ? Is there any how to or something ? [17:42] i wouldnt [17:42] but, you would set it up as a "virtual alsa device" AFAIK [17:42] http://manual.ardour.org/setting-up-your-system/using_more_than_one_audio_device/ [17:43] but you think it's better to use a audio interface ? [17:43] "better" is always a matter of opinion, and use case [17:44] i dont think anyone will disagree, those USB device preamps are sub-par.. [17:44] i personally dont get them, since, they are "unitasking".. and mostly for podcast application [17:44] but, you *can*.. [17:45] i would expect a hassle setting up, and a hit in performance, and dealing with the hardware limitations as you would on any operating system, with those devices [17:45] ah ok i understand... [17:45] ty [17:46] sure.. check #opensourcemusicians for more input/opinions.. cheers [17:46] cya [21:19] So, if I have an input device showing up fine in PulseAudio (can see the volume meter jumping in response to input on my mic), and I have PulseAudio loading the jack modules to create a sink and a source that I then see in qjackctl . . . how do I actually get that audio on the PulseAudio side of things to be heard by anything on the jack side of things? [22:11] you can use patchage to assign inputs to outputs and such [22:11] thats what I do with my emu1616 [22:19] Jmainguy: hmm, that looks promising, but it doesn't seem to see the input device in question [22:19] thats not good [22:20] not sure how it picks them up, but they really should be showing in there [22:20] Only place I see it is on the PulseAudio side of things :( [22:21] I think that means jack isnt aware of it [22:21] but if pulse audio sees it [22:22] I think pulse audio is an input/output in patchage [22:22] I might be making that last part up [22:22] yeah I dunno [22:22] Well, kindof. I have PulseAudio loading the sink and source jack modules [22:22] so Patchage sees *those* [22:23] so point the output of pulseaudio [22:23] So what I need to do is somehow connect the input that PulseAudio sees with what JACK sees as "PulseAudio JACK source" [22:23] at the input of whatever you have in jack your trying to get it to work with [22:23] I mean sure, I get that in theory. [22:23] But how to do that in practice I have no clue. [22:23] in patchage [22:24] do you see the jack thing, you want pulse audio piping into [22:24] it should have an input and an output on it [22:24] then you basically click on the output of pulse audio in patcage, and draw a line to the input of the jack input [22:24] and it draws a line between them [22:24] Umm. [22:25] The only PulseAudio stuff in patchage is "PulseAudio JACK Sink" and "PulseAudio JACK Source" [22:25] ah [22:26] so what on the jack side of things, do you see in patchage [22:28] I see PulseAudio JACK Sink is wired into system(playback_1,playback_2). Conversely PulseAudio JACK Source is wired into system capture_1 and capture_2. Those are each in turn wired into Qtractor (capture into in, playback into out) [22:30] yeah that sounds pretty solid [22:31] On my system, playback 1 is like left ear, playback 2 is right ear, or something like that [22:31] so I use both and I get stereo [22:32] I think I just goofed around with mine until I finally got the audio I wanted [22:32] I just don't even see where I could goof around with it :( Everything's all connected up on the JACK side, and I have no idea how to tell PulseAudio "hey, take this line in and spit it out over here" [22:33] I would've thought it'd be simple, but either it really isn't or my google-fu is just weak today [22:34] (for the record, patchage looks exactly like this for me: http://www.ualberta.ca/~keithz/tmp/patchage_situation.png ) [22:37] If only something like qjackctl or patchage existed for PulseAudio, this'd be so simple . . . and here I thought PulseAudio was invented to try and make things simpler and more user-friendly, arghhh [22:37] yeah pulseaudio is awesome and terrible all at once [22:39] that really should be working [22:39] if I am reading the diagram right [22:39] actually [22:40] draw a line from qtractor out to pulse audio jack source [22:40] see if that does anything [22:44] Hmm, "unable to find port" 'jack:11' to connect" [22:45] geez, thats weird [22:45] Yeah I am pretty nub [22:45] if anyone else in here wakes up, they might know more then I do [22:46] pacmd load-module module-jack-source channels=2; pacmd load-module module-jack-sink channels=2; [22:46] I have that script on my system, I dunno what it does [22:46] but there it is [22:46] Already done on my end, actually. [22:46] nice lol [22:47] yeah I guess that makes the source and sink [22:47] Yeah [22:51] ughhh at this point I'm sorely tempted to just purge PulseAudio and try to get things working without it. [22:55] yeah pulse audio is a pain [23:00] Hmmph, even with pulse uninstalled and the laptop rebooted, still no audio. Clearly something else is going wrong here. [23:09] OMFG FINALLY [23:09] heh [23:10] Not even entirely sure what I did to make it work now. Purging PulseAudio seems to have been part of it. [23:10] lol nice man [23:11] I cant remember if I purged pulse audio on mine [23:11] but that does sound familiar [23:12] Yeah I think I did that back in the day, last time I had things set up for audio recording. I guess I was just hoping that PulseAudio had gotten better in the, like, two years since. [23:12] Apparently not . . . now I'm a bit more pessimistic about systemd :P