| RobertJDohnert | Hey guys when will KDE 4.14.4 be released for 14.04 | 02:42 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:12 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | Riddell:ping | 10:48 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | Plasma 5 is broken, it freezes randomly | 10:48 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | especially if I have desktop widgets | 10:49 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | I have a bash script and a ln -s to it on my Desktop. I have a folder widget on my Desktop that shows the Desktop folder. | 10:50 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | when I click on the shortcut, the whole Desktop freezes | 10:50 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | I can't open new apps | 10:50 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | I can't interact with anything | 10:50 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | except kwin (sometimes) | 10:50 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | and some apps, like chromium | 10:51 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | the mouse still works | 10:51 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | I'm guessing Plasma entered someking of block | 10:51 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | somekind* | 10:51 |
| ovidiu-florin_ | please advize | 10:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | restarting sddm works, but I loose everything | 10:56 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: can't you just restart plasma? | 10:59 |
| valorie | whenever it glitches on me I `killall -9 plasmashell && plasmashell &` | 11:00 |
| valorie | it starts right up again | 11:00 |
| valorie | should not have to ever do that, but..... | 11:00 |
| valorie | bleeding edge | 11:00 |
| seaLne | Riddell: do you want to have another kubuntu day at akademy this year? | 11:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: that is if you have a konsole on your desktop | 11:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | otherwise.... | 11:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | how do I do that from the tty? | 11:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | ah | 11:16 |
| ovidiu-florin | yeah... | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: I did that | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | then it froze again | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | then I did it again | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | the everything broke and died | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | had to hard reset | 11:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | was not plesant | 11:21 |
| yofel | fun, calligra got thrown out of the packageset -.- | 11:38 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:42 |
| BluesKaj | trying out systemd , but get this error: "Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set." systemd-sysv is installed as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers/Permanent Switch, on 15.04 | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | err | 12:32 |
| BluesKaj | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers /Permanent Switch | 12:32 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: isnt Vivid useing systemd already by default ? | 12:33 |
| yofel | nope | 12:33 |
| soee_ | oh i thought it is :) | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | hey soee_ obviously not | 12:33 |
| yofel | soee_: there's still problems with server applications. | 12:34 |
| BluesKaj | this is a std install | 12:34 |
| soee_ | yofel: but it is planed as defautl for Vivid ? | 12:34 |
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| yofel | not sure, it's being worked on, but might take until 15.10 | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | yofel , not a server here | 12:35 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: is sddm even starting? I'm still booting systemd the one single-boot way, which works fine for me | 12:36 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: maybe file a bug if you have freezing | 12:36 |
| yofel | but lets see how installing systemd-sysv turns out here.. | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, ystemd the one single-boot way? | 12:37 |
| yofel | I mean I have "init=/lib/systemd/systemd" in my boot options | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, as do I | 12:38 |
| yofel | yeah, but I haven't installed systemd-sysv yet so upstart is still installed | 12:38 |
| yofel | I'm doing that now, lets see what happens | 12:38 |
| BluesKaj | it made no difference here | 12:42 |
| yofel | back | 12:45 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: so, when exactly is it failing? | 12:46 |
| yofel | @§%&$§("$§ | 12:46 |
| yofel | why is my xorg.conf gone again >.< | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, dunno i just check to see if it's on in the terminal , sudo systemd | 12:47 |
| yofel | ah heh, that won't work. It only works as PID 1 | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | oh right | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | so how to check ? | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | system monitor or top ? | 12:49 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: try to run "systemctl status" - that's a systemd thing | 12:51 |
| yofel | on upstart that should just fail | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | systemd shows a user pid and a root pid and the systemctl status http://pastebin.com/b82RN70B | 12:58 |
| yofel | looks fine to me | 13:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: David Ed. Fixed it for me | 13:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 13:06 |
| soee | :) | 13:06 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: what was the issue? | 13:06 |
| yofel | (or rather: what caused it?) | 13:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | plasma lock files not getting deleted | 13:07 |
| yofel | ah | 13:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | deleting it manually fixed it | 13:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | they are located in ~/.cache | 13:07 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: yup see it @ #plasma | 13:07 |
| yofel | fun | 13:08 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: 'ps -p 1' tells you if you are running systemd. | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, thanks, it is running systemd | 14:07 |
| lordievader | My old laptop worked fine with 15.04 + systemd. Though that was still using lightdm instead of sddm. Yet to try systemd with my new install. | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | sddm is fine here | 14:10 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, we have no pastebinit for the panel altho it's installed | 15:17 |
| BluesKaj | no widget that is | 15:17 |
| BluesKaj | and the krunner still has no drop down of previous entries | 15:18 |
| BluesKaj | which was very handy btw | 15:19 |
| BluesKaj | and copy & paste is acting up....again | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: Plasma 5? | 15:40 |
| Quintasan | bah | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, yes plasma 5.2 kubuntu 15.04 | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: possibly the plasmoid isn't ported | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | and you installed the KDE4 one? | 15:41 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Well, I'm your twin apparently now | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, 15.04 clean install from the daily image | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: yeah, but the plasmoid isn't ported maybe? | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, how can that be | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | someone didn't port it maybe? | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | idk | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | obviously some plasmoid/packages are still missing, and the it's very annoying not have them available | 15:49 |
| soee | BluesKaj: have you seen the proposed chnage to calendar to select year ? | 18:32 |
| soee | *in Plasma 5 | 18:32 |
| BluesKaj | calendar in the clock or ?? soee | 18:35 |
| soee | no no, the small feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2nTSl4oOvM :) | 18:36 |
| BluesKaj | it went too fast for me to understand what he did there | 18:38 |
| BluesKaj | i don't need those options anyway so it doesn't really matter much here | 18:39 |
| soee | -.- | 18:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | shouldn't there be a print manager KCM in 14.10 ? | 19:27 |
| Sput | does anyone know if explicit support for libindicate is still viable for Qt5 applications to integrate with Ubuntu? otherwise I'll throw that out of quassel | 19:32 |
| Sput | my understanding is that QSystemTrayIcon should do the same these days | 19:32 |
| ovidiu-florin | more complaints regarding the WHITE t-shirts from KDE :https://madbob.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/freddo-al-nord/ | 19:50 |
| soee | BluesKaj: ping | 20:08 |
| BluesKaj | soee, pong | 20:08 |
| soee | BluesKaj: you were waiting for different wallpapers for VD in Plasma 5 ? | 20:09 |
| BluesKaj | soee, not exactly , I have plenty of wallpapers, but the different VDs used have different wallpapers,but noe if you choose one wallpaper a particular VD it becomes default on all VDs | 20:11 |
| soee | BluesKaj: yes and it won't change | 20:11 |
| soee | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143 | 20:12 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 341143 in Image Wallpaper "Wallpaper on every desktop is gone." [Wishlist,Resolved: wontfix] | 20:12 |
| BluesKaj | or wallpaper on every desktop is the same | 20:12 |
| BluesKaj | now that is a pi** off, i don't need activities, just different desktops | 20:15 |
| BluesKaj | nothing complex about wallp[apers ..it's actitvities that's complex | 20:16 |
| soee | well i think activities will be easier for users | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | now that's a bummer ...it was one of my favourite setups about KDE and it's gone ...this is not good | 20:17 |
| soee | and for simple ser there wont be difference | 20:17 |
| soee | *user | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | how is actitvities easier? | 20:17 |
| soee | how are the y harder? | 20:18 |
| soee | now we have nice activities selector | 20:18 |
| soee | where you can create and setup new - like V | 20:18 |
| soee | *VD | 20:18 |
| BluesKaj | uhmm because i couldn't configure actitvities , but VDs are easy | 20:19 |
| soee | BluesKaj: yup, they are broken in Plasma 5.2, but i KDE 4 they worked well | 20:19 |
| soee | i was using them for long time | 20:19 |
| soee | anyway i we all like different things and no need to argue here :D just wanted to show you the link so you would know about it | 20:21 |
| BluesKaj | soee, they aren't broken in plasma 5 , it says the option for different wallpaper for each VD has been removed | 20:22 |
| soee | BluesKaj: imtalking about Activities - they are broken | 20:23 |
| soee | VD work well - im using them temporary as a workaround for broken activities | 20:23 |
| BluesKaj | ok , glad you told me, becaus e I couldn't get activities to work | 20:23 |
| soee | i just wonder if devs plan to remove VD completely | 20:24 |
| soee | or just live them as they are | 20:24 |
| BluesKaj | perhaps when it's fixed you can show me how to use actitvities :) | 20:24 |
| BluesKaj | apparantly activities supports diferent wallpapers for each VD | 20:25 |
| soee | BluesKaj: a bit old but this is how it will work more or less https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaDaXW67Oo | 20:27 |
| BluesKaj | well, all thses changes i find so annoying makes me want to stick with 14.10 and palsma 4 til the devs come to their senses | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | anyway , time to go ... c ya tomorrow | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: "As Ian says, we decided to go away from ktron ages ago, please suggest a MR in reviewboard to do so, or convince Jonathan to reply on the one he did :)" | 22:47 |
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