[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:31] <jian> Ubuntu 15.04, Press Ctrl+Shift+D in nautilus but could not open GtkInspector, and idea is appreciated.
[22:19] <IdleOne> What is the command to upgrade to daily? I haven't done it in a while and I forget :/
[22:20] <ikonia> apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade should keep you up to date
[22:20] <ikonia> as the it's just the repos thats changing packages
[22:20] <k1l_> from 14.10 to 15.04 use update-manager -d
[22:20] <ikonia> ooh you mean from a stable release to unstable
[22:20] <ikonia> sorry
[22:20] <DalekSec> Or  do-release-upgrade  for the CLI version, of course.
[22:21] <DalekSec> -d
[22:21] <IdleOne> k1l_: tells me command not found
[22:21] <ikonia> update-manager isn't found ?
[22:21] <IdleOne> ah do-release-upgrade!
[22:21] <ikonia> IdleOne: what desktop do you run ?
[22:21] <IdleOne> ikonia: nope, but this is kubuntu
[22:21] <k1l_> IdleOne: erm. the cli version is do-release-upgrade -d then
[22:21] <ikonia> ahh
[22:21] <IdleOne> thanks guys :)
[22:21] <k1l_> dont know what the kde guys call their updates stuff app
[22:23] <IdleOne> This is probably going to break everything but oh well
[22:24] <ikonia> fortune favours the bold
[22:24]  * IdleOne is nothing if not bold
[22:26] <IdleOne> haven't ran dev version in a long while. getting bored with stuff just working all the time
[22:27] <IdleOne> Log readers: The above command is NOT recommended it should not be done unless you are willing to live with a broken operating system. You have been warned.
[22:27] <ikonia> you've got the right attitude for it though, so you won't have a problem
[22:28] <IdleOne> ikonia: I used to run dev all the time I know what to expect. Just couldn't remember the command cause it had been so long
[22:28] <DalekSec> IdleOne: Run systemd too?
[22:28] <ikonia> exaclty the right attitude
[22:29] <IdleOne> DalekSec: I have been running whatever 14.10 has
[22:29] <ikonia> rather than "OMG !!! MY COLLEGE WORK IS LOST !!! HELP !!"
[22:29] <ikonia> you're in for a treat then.....14.10 does not run systemd
[22:29] <DalekSec> Nor does 15.04 by default, not yet.
[22:30] <IdleOne> I don't know what systemd does. I expect it has to do with the system running.
[22:30] <DalekSec> It's another init system, so you'd use that rather than upstart.
[22:30] <ikonia> IdleOne: if you can work without knowing what what it does, you'll have a great experience, seriously
[22:30] <ikonia> it's much more than an init system though
[22:30] <ikonia> 15.04 is the first one thats got the full framework in by design
[22:30] <ikonia> so you can properly run it
[22:31] <DalekSec> Yes, that, exactly.  Well, systemd as a group of applications or the init system?  It's tightly integrated with udev and logind, yes.
[22:31] <ikonia> it's pretty much your userland kernel
[22:31] <ikonia> as a weak summary of it
[22:31] <IdleOne> yeah, I don't go that far into my system. I just care that it works.
[22:33] <DalekSec> I've noticed that on upgrades it sometimes de-syncs with policykit or logind, such that you need the root password to simply automount devices, reboot, and the like.
[22:53] <ikonia> DalekSec: do you think that is policy kit in general or how ubuntu has it currently setup
[22:54] <DalekSec> ikonia: I don't know the cause of it, perhaps how systemd handles updates?  But only seen it on 15.04 with systemd as the init (not been using upstart there to see if it's init related.)